Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-10 Thread Louis Bryant
Hi Josh, I also have a BraillePlus here, and absolutely love it! I don't understand anymore the peop[le who just adore their Crap Mate Omlettes. Come on now, on the BraillePlus we have access to an 80 GB builtin HD, builtin Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and a whole range of Braille Displays. If you are a PAC

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi guys, I said this before, and I'll say it again, let's stear this back to gaming please. As for the Braille Plus as far as I know it only uses a Linux shell environment. It does not support any of the graphical desktops like gnome, KDE, etc. So it wouldn't be good for games or anything that nee

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
Hal actually has 30 days. At 09:23 AM 10/08/2010, you wrote: I would like to point out that most readers, hal and now jaws and probably win eyes has 40 minutes hal has 35 so I think its standard times. gw is one of the only companies I know of a leace to own system though so you pay a bit every

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2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
I have also just seen the email but I am gona answer all questions left on this topic on my mail box, oh if anyone wants to continue this descussion add me to msn at shau...@xtra.co.nz, email me at sm.ever...@gmail.com and I can give skype info to though I don't use that that much. At 04:26 a.

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
yeah the braillenote is a bit much hmm linux? wander if you can run gnome on there to and upgrade the system? I never thought of a linux blindness device. At 03:39 a.m. 10/08/2010, you wrote: hey guys the nice thing about the american printing house for the blind's braille plus notetaker is that

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
I would like to point out that most readers, hal and now jaws and probably win eyes has 40 minutes hal has 35 so I think its standard times. gw is one of the only companies I know of a leace to own system though so you pay a bit every month and get a code and well every month you pay and eventua

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread shaun everiss
well an interesting thing happened a bit ago. I wanted to use keysoft 2.0 and mastertouch 2 on another system and I asked about the licencing on these softwares. Technically these are free. Right, but you need to get a coppy and get passed the protection and they don't supply that. the keynote

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
sage - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Hayden, That's what I thought. Unfortunately, for Jaws users that is a very bad practice as Ja

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, That's what I thought. Unfortunately, for Jaws users that is a very bad practice as Jaws yanks control of the keyboard away from the Win API and substitutes itself as the input manager. That's bad because I've seen cases where Jaws has crashed, locked up, etc and when it does so the keyb

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread clement chou
I knew about those.. but I always thought there were other reasons. lol. Maybe it really is that simple. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, a

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2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey guys sorry I'm responding late. I just now saw the email to stop this thread. I'm three or so days behind on my email. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin,, Like I said that is just a theory. I don't know why Jaws locks up with games for certain other than it is trying to have eexclusive control of the keyboard were Window-Eyes, NVDA, Hal, etc doesn't do that. Window-Eyes and NVDA both have scripting too so I don't see why Jaws would have to

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all, As Raul said earlier on list let's begin getting back on topic with gaming. I know many of us, including myself would like to express our opinions about Freedom Scientific's practices but it is time to drop it and get back to what this list was intended for. Which is talking about accessibl

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey if I could get keynote gold multimedia somehow to work with NVDA and vinux3.0 I would. I actually like that a bit better than eloquence. I really like eloquence but keynote gold speech is my alltime favorite. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org I

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey guys the nice thing about the american printing house for the blind's braille plus notetaker is that it is the most affordable, it runs linux, it also has speakup installed on it and you can access the linux console on the notetaker and run whatever linux console apps you wish to run. And fo

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi I would never buy a braillenote. I am very very happy with my braillePlus which runs special talking linux and my american printing house for the blind refreshabraille braille display that I can put in a pocket. They work great! oh and not mention my macbook pro with mac os win7 win xp vinux3

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey guys Can you guys maybe help me by emailing us.i...@humanware.com and just write a short message about how you really want keynote gold multimedia and keysoft 2.4a demos released as freeware? they work great in my win98 virtual machine. I use win98 vm because win95 vm does not let me share t

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
hi yes guys you can certainly use NVDA and also use vinux3.0. They work very good. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi you think 40 minutes is bad? Every 15 minutes I have to reboot my win98 virtual machine to use keynote gold multimedia and keysoft 2.4a demo for 15 minutes at a time. Humanware, just give me the full version of the software won't you darn it!!! Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Josh Kennedy
Hi Humanware's a bit rediculous also especially with the issue I'm trying to get them to agree with me on. You see I'm running a windows98 virtual machine in vmware. I like really like the keynote gold speech synthesizer. They had a version called keynote gold multimedia for win98 and keysoft 2.

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Kelly Sapergia
Hi, I haven't read all the messages in this thread yet, but I agree with what's been said about people not liking FS because of their lawsuits. I've thought about switching to a different screen reader myself, even though I like using JFW, but I'm staying with it for now because of one thing:

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Mauricio Almeida
OL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Hi Thomas, > Lol. I don't

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Mauricio Almeida
t; Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:06:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Hi Kevin, > I don't know about the research it thing...it is, depending on what you're > looking for, much more concise then having to navigate through huge pages &

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
response rate I wouldn't bother with it at all. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 5:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
d bug hasn't been figured out yet even now, not that I've had problems with that. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No L

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
quot; To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific probably because of the deadly word bug, in which certain combos of letters and numbers can crash eloquence, I think they've been dealt

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
probably because of the deadly word bug, in which certain combos of letters and numbers can crash eloquence, I think they've been dealt with now. At 04:59 PM 9/08/2010, you wrote: Hm. I'm curious... why are there so many people who don't like eloquence? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audysse

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen
but having to pay for an unrestricted demo... that's just utterly ludicrous! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: 08 August 2010 08:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Ben
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Constantine > Sent: 08 August 2010 04:28 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > They seriously did that? This quite honestly does

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Ben
Ahhh thanks for that information but as I say. I'm stuck with jfw -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 08 August 2010 09:56 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Sup

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Ben
ey.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: 08 August 2010 08:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific The wineyes demo is still free as far as I am aware, but those who don't like the 30 minute limit can buy the $100 60 day evaluation of WE. A

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread clement chou
Hm. I'm curious... why are there so many people who don't like eloquence? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/list

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread shaun everiss
oun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 3:56 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Ben, Yes. Window-Eyes uses Dectalk by default, but the full version does come with Eloquence as well. It also

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Stephen
..Ni! - Original Message - From: "Brandon Misch" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific well, with window-eye lto coppies, you have to activate license numbers every mont

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Stephen
al with fs for every reformat or new pc... - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific No, it doesn't, but there is a 60 day evaluation of

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
mat or new pc... - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific No, it doesn't, but there is a 60 day evaluation of wineyes you can

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
riginal Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Thomas, Lol. I don't know how you like dectalk, the sound of that t

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Sky Taylor
in the US, It hink JAWS is $1095 or so, but I don't know the amount in canadian dollars - Original Message - From: To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi, The pr

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread weisi4u
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > Hi Kevin, > Well, I don't know for certain what the developers did, but I have > enough background knowledge of the problem to make an educated guess > as to why Jaws locks up whenever you play a game t

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread weisi4u
Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:06:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Hi Kevin, > I don't know about the research it thing...it is, depending on what you're > looking for, much more concise then having to navigate through huge pages > full of

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Brandon Misch
gt; - Original Message - From: "Stephen" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > >> No, it doesn't, but there is a 60 day evaluation o

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread shaun everiss
d that with a doubletalk or decktalk >> synthisizer about 12 years ago. >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - From: "Travis Siegel" >> >> > To: >> > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:17 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Audy

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Hayden Presley
dyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific HI, I must absolutely agree with the message below! That is like totally crimina

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Hayden Presley
es it through to the application. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Fr

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Dakotah Rickard
e >> me. Window Bridge. Man, I used that with a doubletalk or decktalk >> synthisizer about 12 years ago. >> > >> > >> > - Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" >> >> > To: >> > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:17 AM &

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Hayden Presley
st 07, 2010 11:51 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific well I don't like the fs tactics. but here in new zealand its mostly fs. the braille note is the other thing and if i had not got so far into windows I think it would be a br

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Hayden Presley
3:56 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Ben, Yes. Window-Eyes uses Dectalk by default, but the full version does come with Eloquence as well. It also has very good support for SAPI 4 and SAPI 5 voices as well. I'm no

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread shaun everiss
--- Original Message - From: "Travis Siegel" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > >> Actually, if I wanted to, I could sue freedom scientific for several things. >>

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Brandon Misch
rs-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Constantine > Sent: 08 August 2010 04:28 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > They seriously did that? This quite honestly does not surprise me.

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Brandon Misch
alk or decktalk synthisizer about 12 > years ago. > > > - Original Message - From: "Travis Siegel" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > >> Actually

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Constantine
t 01:26 PM 8/08/2010, you wrote: I was talking about jaws, not window eyes. Window eyes has no activations, right? - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer S

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Constantine
They don't? odd. I thought freedom science fiction took them off dealership status and put Phronteer computing in their place? - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyss

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread weisi4u
will never use them up all the way if I really don't have to. Kevin - Original Message - From: "peter Mahach" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:46:59 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Act

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread peter Mahach
like in jaws where you have a separate auth code and have to deal with fs for every reformat or new pc... - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Fr

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, I believe GW Micro still offers the 30 minute free demo of Window-Eyes as well as the 60 day unlimited trial for $100. On 8/8/10, clement chou wrote: > So is the $100 evaluation the only way to try it now? I haven't actually had > to stop upgrading yet... having converted recently. I used bot

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ben, Yes. Window-Eyes uses Dectalk by default, but the full version does come with Eloquence as well. It also has very good support for SAPI 4 and SAPI 5 voices as well. I'm not sure why everyone likes Eloquence, but yes it is supported. On 8/8/10, Ben wrote: > Isn't dectalk standard voice wit

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Stephen
The wineyes demo is still free as far as I am aware, but those who don't like the 30 minute limit can buy the $100 60 day evaluation of WE. At 06:20 PM 8/08/2010, you wrote: So is the $100 evaluation the only way to try it now? I haven't actually had to stop upgrading yet... having converted rec

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Ben
t: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific They seriously did that? This quite honestly does not surprise me. Window Bridge. Man, I used that with a doubletalk or decktalk synthisizer about 12 years ago. - Original Message - From: "Travis Siegel&q

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread Ben
t: 07 August 2010 06:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Again? What in the name of Bob do they think they're doing? I mean I hate Greedom Science Fiction but this is just a new low as far as I'm concerned. And it's

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-08 Thread clement chou
So is the $100 evaluation the only way to try it now? I haven't actually had to stop upgrading yet... having converted recently. I used both for a time and am now only on WE. So is the demo that you use to be able to download for free non-existent now? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audys

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Stephen
, not window eyes. Window eyes has no activations, right? - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific I disagree that the no ac

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Sky Taylor
o: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific They seriously did that? This quite honestly does not surprise me. Window Bridge. Man, I used that with a doubletalk or decktalk synthisizer

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread shaun everiss
I think we also need to remember that nvda has an command line dll of espeak. I am not saying use espeak as some don't like it but if you had a synth which is internal then fgine I use espeak because its internal and nothing else. At 02:25 a.m. 8/08/2010, you wrote: Hi Charles, You are absolut

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree with all of this including their stupid polocies, ie profesional to run pro systems and extra packages to use remote services etc. However I doubt I will be changing to anything, I havn't upgraded in ages, and probably won't for a bit. but since I am stuck with the software unless I spen

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread shaun everiss
aille writers. Louis, does this mean you're not going to release any new pm stuff? damn, I was looking forward to uno3.0... BTW, I don't support fs either - Original Message - From: "Louis Bryant" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 2:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Mauricio Almeida
t No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific I wouldn't mind seeing FS get put in there place... I say do it! - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer S

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread clement chou
I wouldn't mind seeing FS get put in there place... I say do it! - Original Message - From: "Constantine" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific They

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Constantine
[Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Actually, if I wanted to, I could sue freedom scientific for several things. Since I now own the rights to the windows bridge code, I could sue for all kinds of things they swiped from wb (such as the capslock key as a modifier) as well

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Constantine
I was talking about jaws, not window eyes. Window eyes has no activations, right? - Original Message - From: "Stephen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientifi

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread clement chou
August 07, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific I disagree that the no activation for 60 days is a bad thing, it gives the newby time enough to try wineyes out, it's certainly better than 40 minutes then reboot, 40 minutes and then reboot e

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Mauricio Almeida
10:25 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Charles, You are absolutely right from a business point of view. However, there are plenty of alternatives than supporting the screen readers directly. For example, Time of Conflict and Lone Wolf allow you to select

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Stephen
d up the graphics card so badly, I hardly could do something. And no, it's not! a bad card. Kevin. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:25:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Hi Ch

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Stephen
Do it travis! do it now! At 11:17 PM 7/08/2010, you wrote: Actually, if I wanted to, I could sue freedom scientific for several things. Since I now own the rights to the windows bridge code, I could sue for all kinds of things they swiped from wb (such as the capslock key as a modifier) as well

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Stephen
s for sixty days thing is a bit rediculous. I'll be switching to the mac, actually. And using NVDA and sapi 5 on windows. - Original Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Louis Bryant
Hi. Recently I've switched to SAToGo and absolutely love it! Regarding Uno 3.0, I am not sure if I will even develop anymore for Pocket PC since there is only PAC Mate Omni that is fully supported. If there are any blind people out there who use a different Pocket PC then 3.0 may be considered,

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Travis Siegel
Actually, if I wanted to, I could sue freedom scientific for several things. Since I now own the rights to the windows bridge code, I could sue for all kinds of things they swiped from wb (such as the capslock key as a modifier) as well as several inovations which were frist introduced by wb befor

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread clement chou
Lucky you... wish I could get aroga n vancouver to see WE instead of JFW. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/list

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Bryan Peterson
s Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific It's the same here. Although the department I work for is getting sick of freedom scientific - do you know that they won't let aroga sell their product

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Constantine
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific I would like to agree on everyone who's expressed contempt for Freedon Scientific... I've converted to window-eyes and to be honest, I love it a lot more and always have. It&#

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Constantine
riginal Message - From: "clement chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific The same goes for canadian groups and businesses... I'm part of the Vancouver

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Constantine
just horrible. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi, That's unfortunately true. Here in the U.S. most organization

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread clement chou
way to go. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi, That's unfortunately true. Here in the U.S. most organizations and

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin, Well, I don't know for certain what the developers did, but I have enough background knowledge of the problem to make an educated guess as to why Jaws locks up whenever you play a game that uses DirectX. I remember several years ago when I was writing Jaws scripts all of the keyboard comm

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread weisi4u
jaws, I better stop here. Otherwise I just tell stuff that people already know. Heh Kevin - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:25:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Hi Charles, &g

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread weisi4u
not! a bad card. Kevin. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:25:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > Hi Charles, > You are absolutely right from a business point of view. However, the

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Brandon Misch
o that makes sense. On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Brandon, > Smile. As I said in a previous post I have a general polacy not to > support any screen reader directly. For one thing it is extra work > trying to directly support Jaws, System Access, NVDA, Window-Eyes, etc > w

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Brandon, Smile. As I said in a previous post I have a general polacy not to support any screen reader directly. For one thing it is extra work trying to directly support Jaws, System Access, NVDA, Window-Eyes, etc when there are easier solutions like SAPI 5 that would work just as well. Plus by

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, You are absolutely right from a business point of view. However, there are plenty of alternatives than supporting the screen readers directly. For example, Time of Conflict and Lone Wolf allow you to select SAPI, Jaws, or Window-Eyes. As far as I am concerned using SAPI 5 support is eno

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Brandon Misch
speaking of screen reader support, will system access support be included in your game engine and any future titles? On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Louis, > Honestly I can't blame you. that's why I have not really been using or > supporting Freedom Scientific products much

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, That's unfortunately true. Here in the U.S. most organizations and government agencies only recognize Freedom Scientific's products in any official copacity. However, with free and open source solutions like NVDA out there one can choose to pass on Jaws and choose to use NVDA instead. If they

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Right. In fact, in the latest build of the Genisis Engine I have added SAPI 5.x support. I haven't yet converted MOTA over to SAPI but like you I believe buying high quality voices such as the AT&T Natural Voices, Cepstral Voices, etc is a bit like buying a joystick. It is a game accessor

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread peter Mahach
07, 2010 2:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi all. As many of you know FS has gone lawsuit crazy this past year. There was an unsettling case in which FS filed suit against the Foundation for blind children in Arizona, as sighted by BLindBargains.com

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread clement chou
I would like to agree on everyone who's expressed contempt for Freedon Scientific... I've converted to window-eyes and to be honest, I love it a lot more and always have. It's more customizable, and suport is a lot better... I've had a lot of people tel me JFW has better tech support, and I won

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread dark
quot; To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Again? What in the name of Bob do they think they're doing? I mean I hate Greedom Science Fiction but this is just a new low as far as

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-07 Thread shaun everiss
list" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Louis, Honestly I can't blame you. that's why I have not really been using or supporting Freedom Scientific products much over the past few years. One reaso

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
ugust 06, 2010 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific If any game developer is going to provide screen reader support for their games, regardless of how they feel about the screen reader developing company's policies are, I feel that you have to support wh

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-06 Thread Charles Rivard
tomer base. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Again? What in the name of Bob do they thin

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-06 Thread Oriol Gómez
quot;Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > >> Hi Louis, >> Honestly I can't blame you. that's why I have not really be

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
lly fit all that well. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific Hi Louis, Honestly I can&#x

Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

2010-08-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Louis, Honestly I can't blame you. that's why I have not really been using or supporting Freedom Scientific products much over the past few years. One reason I will not, under any circomstances add Jaws support to my game engine, as I see no need to endorce or support a greedy and selfish compan

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