Hi Shaun,
You know, that's about the most insulting comment I've heard from you
in a while. We should not be putting our fellow blind brothers/sisters
down for belonging to an institution or being unaware of what
alternatives their are. The entire point Dark was trying to make about
the RNIB and
while that'd work, ken is also porting this game to portable devices that'll
frequently not be with in internet connectivity range. My pm definitely
isn't most of the time.
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Hi Dark,
Well, I think there are always a few that do meet the stereotypical
view no matter where you go. I've met more than my share of the kind
that want everything done for them etc at summer camp, blind
conventions, etc but there are also plenty of people who don't meet
this stereotypical
Thankfully in Poland I actually find window-eyes has the upper hand, though
I know quite a few dolphin and jaws users as well. and of course nvda.
Though as far as phones symbian is still popular around here unlike in the
States where the iPhone is taking the blind community like a storm, but it
A waiter at a restaurant this side once said the following to me after I
explained some simple things to him like pouring level indicators,
cellphones, our money measuring slide things, general living workarounds,
etc.:
you're not disabled - you're differently enabled
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Hi Ken,
Well, there are a number of methods for adding product security to a
game or similar product and it all depends on how fanatical you are
about anti-piracy schemes. If you want to do something like GMA does
they base the product key off the CPU and other hardware in the
physical machine
Hi,
Well, that's certainly true. Especially, if you want to delve into the
matter of international copyright laws which is extremely messy and
convoluted.
For instance, lets take the matter of the GPL, GNU General Public
License Agreement, which tries to keep certain software open and
available
hi all i changed my email address so if I create ann accountw ith entomed using
this new googlemail address, can I then just use my paypal reference which I
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Hmmm...I don't think that would work out so well. Lol!
Actually, I always imagined Angela holding the torch between her teeth
so she could climb up the rope two-handed and have both hands free for
climbing. Although, I imagine a real archeologist would have one of
those hard hats with
Hi Florian,
Well, the problem with text scrolling off the screen is actually to do
with the game itself not with scare or the Adrift runner. There is a
tag developer is suppose to use to prevent this issue called the
waitkey tag but some developers, especially those who use the Adrift
runner
I wonder, is there something like Adrift for Mac? I want to create games and
yes, even though Inform seems easy, it still feels like programming to me and
there's rules to follow that I just can't remember at the moment.
I think doing complex things like random events is easier in Adrift than
Hi all. A few mounths ago I heard some things about flight simulator. My
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True tom, and this is another reason I'm so anxious to make people know that
more than just azabat exist.
The computer is just for work thing is actually an interesting, and rather
depressing, one.
I myself actually went through a similar notion when I first got my laptop
provided by my
Hi Tom.
well I must confess I don't associate particularly with younger blind people
in this country other than some I've met through this list or online
precisely because they can become extremely cleaquey, have lacking or none
existant social skills, fail to do things for themselves and
It's not just people in the UK... in Canada, it can be a lot of the
same.. it all depends on what kind of system you get put in. We only
have one school for the blind in Canada... and a lot of the people
I've sceen come out of that are some of the cockiest and most stuck
up people... and
Nice to here though that some alternatives to the shark exist.
I remember actually in about 2003, I had played some if, and was trying to
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I mailed someone at alterean just being generally confused about the hole
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Games we'd like to play
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Hello everyone
Recently on the audiogames forum there was a message from an audiogamer who
recently sent a message to bavisoft and he actually got a reply. But judging
from the many gramatical errors in the email message, i'm begining to think
this may not be bavisoft that actually replyed.
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I doubt it makes sense to anyone, common or lawyer-ish. It's barely
recognizable as written word. I think, perhaps, the only folk who
could make heads or tails of it in a complete manner are likely
buzzed on something or other, and they probably had a lot of
experience with puzzle-driven
Hi Phil,
Lol! That's great! One wonders what the real Kate Middleton thinks of
a game like this. She's probably all nerves right now getting ready to
become the Princess of Wales, and potential future queen. That has to
be pretty nerve racking.
Cheers!
On 4/28/11, Phil Vlasak
Hi,
Na. Just tell grandma to step down and let someone younger take over.
If she refuses then sword fight. Lol!
On 4/28/11, Milos Przic milos.pr...@gmail.com wrote:
What is she supposed to do with the queen? Will it be a ceremonial
swordfight?
The idea is cool, one of the best from the
Well, sinse the queen lacks all emotion and is probably a robot, --- maybe
short circuite her!
You also missed out her having to cope with the prince being a git (I had a
friend of mine share a tent with him on a military exercize, and apparently
this is true, though given the members of the
The language and spelling of this makes me think it's as phony as a $4 bill.
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i
Hi,
it is possible for us to play some aspects of it. We can't, for
example, fly online with friends due to the lack of air trafic control.
More out there than I would probably know if that is false, however. I
play it every now and again for the offline flights.
You will need a copy of
That's pretty much what I thought. And the fact that this person explained
him or herself and the supposed reasons for the lack of new developments.
That's unlike Bavisoft as we've come to know them.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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who cares just get games off others, forget them
On 28 Apr 2011, at 17:40, Bryan Peterson wrote:
That's pretty much what I thought. And the fact that this person explained
him or herself and the supposed reasons for the lack of new developments.
That's unlike Bavisoft as we've come to know
It's not that simple. People want to know.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:00 AM
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Hi Dark,
I think you are absolutely right. I believe a lot of the computer for
work type attitude largely comes from a misguided sense of fairness
or responcibility. Especially, when the computer in question is
purchased by the state for a specific purpose like school or work. In
the mind of the
Hi Dark,
Oh, yeah. Do tell. I'd be interested to know your opinions of the
royal family and why. Its interesting to see how you see them as
aposed to someone like myself who only knows them via television and
the world news.
Cheers!
On 4/28/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Well, sinse the queen
Very well said Tom. One minor correction I actually live in central
California not Canada.
Game on.
Tom
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Hi tom.
I was thinking about this issue, and one question to ask people did occur to
me.
Say you were paraplegic and a state agency bought you a wheel chair.
Would you effectively not use that chair to go anywhere fun just because the
state bought it for you?
There are lots of similar
I've sent a mail to the address used so we will see.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:40 PM
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Hi Dark.
Myself I was mainstreamed during all my grade school and high school and I
pretty much didn't know any other blind kids I just ran around with the
sighted kids and didn't think anything of it. I had good light perception
so I actually did not start to learn to navigate with a cane until
It's ashane that Bavisoft doesn't appear to be developing anymore games. I
just read the email recently and it appears that someone has indeed taken
over the company. There is the wild west level in Monkey business but that
is limited in what you can do you're there to catch run away monkeys. In
Hi Dark,
Ah, but I think you already know the answer to that. Someone might
make a case something as basic as a wheelchair or white cane is a
necessary item for day to day travel, not only for your personal
safety, but for basic mobility. Something like game x is not necessary
and they'd accuse
Yeah. It would be great if we who want their games could some how get them.
Myself I would like to get their games. But I am scare that if I order
them I wouldn't get them. It would be nice if there was away to get
those games that the companyes are no longer around to contact.
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Hi,
I downloaded the playroom installer and created an account, but I can't
find any documentation of the games which are playable in the playroom.
All there is is a textfile with general keystrokes for the playroom and
a webadress, but when I try to go on the site mentioned in the readme it
Hi personally I'd rather pick out my own eyes and eat them raw than watch
that wedding! Or I might even go watch paint dry, that might be less
painful Smile
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Know what sometimes happens when you get your wires crossed?
z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'ap!
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On 4/28/2011 9:50 PM, Sarah Haake wrote:
I downloaded the playroom installer and created an account, but I can't
find any documentation of the games which are playable in the playroom.
All there is is a textfile with general keystrokes for the playroom and
a webadress, but when I try to go on
Hi,
Is that a site?
If it is, can someone write the address please?
Cheers,
Imbar
Ms Imbar Golt
im...@netvision.net.il
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keep trying. it works after a few times. it's agn.quentinc.net
On Apr 28, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Sarah Haake wrote:
Hi,
I downloaded the playroom installer and created an account, but I can't find
any documentation of the games which are playable in the playroom. All there
is is a textfile
I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a
private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I
can just post the link up here for those who want it.
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Better post it for anyone who might want it.
Cheers,
Imbar
Ms Imbar Golt
im...@netvision.net.il
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:43 PM
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or click on this link,
http://agn.quentinc.net/
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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Quentins playroom documentation?
keep trying. it works after a
Hi Thomas,
I have talked with people who told me that they had been told that since BSVI
bought their computer that they were not allowed to put games on it. So it may
not be the individuals but some of the rehab people telling them such things.
But I do know of other rehab councilors that
Hi Jim,
Interesting. That could always be. Perhaps some rehab counselors have
some opinion that their clients should not put games on their
machines. That's an attitude that is rediculous since they aren't
hurting anything by being there, and as has been stated that doesn't
stop the client from
Also you can do this if you want info about the games. Go to a game in the
play room, after you enter on the game of your choice, hit control f1 to get
info about that game.
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Hi Charles,
Right you are. Z'z'z'z'z'z'z'z'zap indeed. Lol!
Your extended zap reminds me a lot of back in junior high and high
school a friend and I use to write short stories on our BrailleN'
Speaks. Since we couldn't get authentic sounds for our audio books we
made them up by stringing long
Hi Orin,
Well, as for an accessible Adrift interpretor for Mac there is scare.
It seems to be universally accessible on all the major platforms it is
compiled for.
However, the Adrift Generator is a Windows only product. I've been
trying to find a non-Windows clone of the Adrift Generator, but
well tom if it actually involved getting the state to pay for game X I'd
agree, however it would seem as silly to me not! to use the computer to it's
full potential inside and outside work really, but your right, some people
just can't get away from certain ideas.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
Your message shows that there is actually someone more interested in the
coverage of that wedding than I am! Wow!
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Yes, that's true, and some PDAs do not have wifi built in, at least the
older ones like Pac Mate don't.
Ken Downey
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011
I was asked to try to get some blind people who frequently visited a center
for the blind interested in audio games. I agreed. So I took some games,
copied onto a CD, to the center and was going to install them onto their
computers that the people were allowed to use during the week and on
Oh my! Hahahaha! Oh my sides ache! Thanks for the laugh Roflol
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:07 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i
Used to be? You don't break ridiculous nonsensical rules anymore? How
disappointing. Even now, I would do it unless the game is still in the beta
sage.
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The message was worded nicely, the only error I see is that they did not
capitalize their I when they said I am sure.
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I couldn't even get as far as making an account
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:19 PM
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Well it is not the spelling except for those miscapitalized I's but I
think the phrasing was too looked over and whoever sent it did not
proofread their! messages!
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Hi Charles,
Well, let me amend my statement. I still break rules I don't agree
with, but I'm more selective with the ones I choose to break. I don't
break rules just for breaking them, but usually have some compelling
reason for doing so. Usually it has to do with some rule that is
either
Games can actually be educational. Get someone playing a game, and they
learn keyboard commands and tasks without realizing they are learning what
they couldn't grasp before learning the game.
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Do these guys know that windows itself, standardly comes with some games -
that we generally can't play on things like older versions of windows
anyway, but I've in the past asked some people if they're arguing with Bill
Gates/Microsoft...smile
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
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It's like I said. I put games on the first and only Laptop the Commission
bought me within days after receiving it. And i still managed to ace both
English courses.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Let me specify. I push the make account button, and Internet Exploder pops
up. There is no address in the address bar, and it just says connecting...
That's all it does. It never goes beyond that.
Ken Downey
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Notice how the author of this Email switched from the past to the present or
future? Even at the very beginning, questions arise:
bavisoft was a fair enterprise, committed towards the development of high
quality computer games for the blind.
Question: Was?? You mean that they no longer
Hey, I went to www.quentinc.net and all I got was some strangh voice.
None of the text was in english. Could someone please give me the
correct website?
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On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:08 AM, michael barnes wrote:
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well It was for a while.
Just like norton was the best software.
But it all went down hill sort of.
No one is the best now in this reguard.
all readers have the same features.
jaws has been round the longest and is recognised and recomended by
most orgs and others as the standard which it is
well my dad says the computer is for work.
I have a player on here, yes games for when I am not working, in the
player I can play music for whatever on whatever I like so its for both.
Its also fair to say that games have been in the dos system since
qbasic and probably gwbasic existed there
not to mention, its been shown time and again, an active mind is a healthy
mind, and games challenge the mind as well as the reflexes.
some folks will never view interactive games as more than a waste of time
of course, but many of these same people will sit and watch television and
gossip on
well there was a piracy thread on the audiogames forum which I posted
my thoughts.
I have been at both ends of the scale, legal and otherwise.
The simple username/key will work.
Ok this gets shared round, but its easy for users.
The other is to have online or whatever but have insentives not to
well I have an aunt who is not comfortable with a cane.
She recons it can trip people up.
That it needs watching etc, and that its not my right to take the
entire path when I walk, etc, etc.
Ofcause with that person I don't use the cane, mainly because I don't
want that type of argument all day
the docs are on the web for each game there is help within each game.
At 07:50 a.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi,
I downloaded the playroom installer and created an account, but I
can't find any documentation of the games which are playable in the
playroom. All there is is a textfile with
yeah I get this a lot.
I was doing some tutorials at a local school.
I was hoping to do some work with an inaccessible system I went and
complained ofcause and went to write an email which opened a staff
system by mistake.
They then told me I was hacking and fired me.
Rather stupid since I
well one thing to note is that as long as you can get away with it
like not doing it during schooltime or whatever it doesn't matter.
I have been known while sitting in a class or where I need to work
from a document with no interaction from my reader or anyone around
to play quiet music
Oh god dark.
I saw the epesode about dr who and the cyber king a couple days ago.
Now you will give me nightmares.
We will all be upgraded.
anything else will get deleted.
Oh well at least its not the dalecs or borg though both of those are
usually noisy races.
At 03:16 a.m. 29/04/2011, you
Its probably naughty as.
But on ocation while say at a camp or something where people don't
know me and I am sure I won't get discovered by someone that knows
that although I work hard I am as lazy as a slothe, I act like a poor
blind and everything gets done and I laze round.
Though that
yeah this is confusing.
The first 2 systems I got from the state.
Technically I had to only use them for work.
And had to return it to them when I no longer needed it.
No one inforced this and it was known people played games on it.
As it was by the time I wanted to return it the system was old
yeah.
Thats a point.
The sighted use the mouse when the keyboard is faster.
So being blind has some advantages.
And we can do crazy things on our devices and can be the only one
that knows what its all about.
At 08:30 p.m. 28/04/2011, you wrote:
A waiter at a restaurant this side once said the
well it all depends on if its monitered or inforced.
Technically I was not supposed to do anything bar use my own software.
But I have always done that.
anyway Its not like I play during working hours or when I have to
work so whats the issue.
At 09:44 a.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I
I must say It was me that decided to venture out the box.
I was taught what I needed to know.
Everything was set so the blind could use it for what it was designed for.
That I could crack that security and do what I wished was a thrill.
I kept it to myself though.
At 07:31 p.m. 28/04/2011, you
Other thing relating to keyboard usage is that since started using
computers, in my sighted days long before there was really such a thing as a
mouse, and since spent most of my time later on typing code, I never really
liked moving hands off the keyboard to use a mouse for something simple, so
Yet the center was open pon saturdays and people came to use their computers
there? very insane!
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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