Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > So much like xml.apache.org deals with XML, db.apache.org will deal > > with databases (maybe even collaborate with xml.apache.org/xindice in > > future). > > So I propose that we put together a proposal for a db.apache.org. We should I don't be

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002 11:44, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > On 5/2/02 6:33 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > OJB deserves to be a peer to other projects alongside ant, avalon, struts > > etc > > For future reference, can we quantify this 'deservation' of peerage? It should b

Re: BTW - You guys aren't so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002 10:45, Sam Ruby wrote: > Just thought I would let you know. I thought they were - just not in the haha sense :) -- Cheers, Peter Donald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

- Original Message - From: "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ? > On Thu, 02 May 2002, Geir Magnusson, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Costin suggeste

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Thu, 02 May 2002, Geir Magnusson, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Costin suggested, and I supported, that a subproject of wider scope > be created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one > larger subcommunity. First of all, I like the idea. But in general I think this shoul

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > Isn't XSLT all about transformations from one DTD to another? > > What is the big deal about having different DTD's? Here's everything you need to know to build Ant: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-ant/build.xml I guess there is no need to build

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 7:42 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but there must have been a reason why a different DTD was > chosen than Gump's. I made an effort to document the Gump data definitions > and there certainly is plenty of instance data to look at. Tell me what to > change, tell me what's

Re: You guys are so funny.

Gee thanks Costin. How to alienate a group of people in one easy lesson. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

On 2 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > Okay now I'm really done with the conversation If only you were... Glenn McAllister SOMA Networks, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > As I tried to point out in my parenthetical remark -- it wasn't the Maven > committers who started this whole thing ... it was our favorite iconoclast > himself (Jon), who seems to believe that anything that makes him happy > should make everybody

Namespaces and Transforms

Sam, I hear you. I understand where you're coming from. I can also see that there are diverging ideas on project descriptors which have been solved in two ways: 1) Augment with namespace definitions, and 2) Generate from different document. The bottom line is that as long as they both work, w

Re: You guys are so funny.

dIon Gillard wrote: > > I don't see how we can be more accomodating other than downloading, > installing and running our own Gump. From talking to Vincent on that, it's > not a simple process, hence we are relying on the Gump developers to tell > us where we're going wrong. Look at it from my per

Re: You guys are so funny.

> Sam, I asked yesterday or the day before on this list what needs to be > done. I'm waiting on you for a reply. I'm an active developer on maven. > Yesterday we added the nag tags in that were requested. Actually (to keep everything honest) they didn't quite work out the way I expected and have

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/2/02 6:33 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > OJB deserves to be a peer to other projects alongside ant, avalon, struts etc For future reference, can we quantify this 'deservation' of peerage? I do know what you mean intuitively but there are all sorts of great things

Re: You guys are so funny.

Sam, > His experience suggests that the Krysalis, Centipede, and Forrest have been > very accommodating, so the ideal situation would be for an active developer > on Maven to step forward. Sam, I asked yesterday or the day before on this list what needs to be done. I'm waiting on you for a reply.

Re: You guys are so funny.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 03 May, 2002 10:00, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > explain exactly WHAT that has to do with this? Who gives a rats behind > about Microsoft. (warning: irony) Sorry my point was whomever makes the tool easier to use will be the one that is ado

RE: You guys are so funny.

> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I really wonder why it is that all one has to do is say "Microsoft" on > any Apache thread and they get 100 responses. I wonder if it works that > way on whatever-microsoft-related-lists are out there. Someone needs to update Ellison's Law

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon Stevens wrote: > > I listen to the following: > >Code. >Patches. >Real suggestions for improvement. >Intelligent discussion. > > I don't listen to the following: > >Flame wars about technologies used. >Whiny people who can't learn a new technology. >Whiny people who

Re: You guys are so funny.

So lets do it. I'm working on the documentation everyone keeps complaining aboutwatch the commits. Grab a hammer and lets start talking about how to create an XSL vs DVSL module. I suggest a cent. Move to krysalis discussion list for now. I'm done here. On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 21:10, [EMA

Re: You guys are so funny.

'D' -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers "Andrew C.

Re: You guys are so funny.

So much so that there have been no replies to my post on krysalis-developers. If you guys are so serious, how about continuing the discussion where it's appropriate. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/devel

Re: BTW - You guys aren't so funny.

Sam Ruby wrote: >Just thought I would let you know. > >- Sam Ruby > > +1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 17:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I hate to interrupt all the good fun over standards, bike sheds, and general > good community feelings, but I would like to solicit community opinion on > something unrelated to DVSL or Jon Stevens (both of which I like, btw...) Thank god

BTW - You guys aren't so funny.

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Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 5:49 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I listen to the following: >> >> Code. >> Patches. >> Real suggestions for improvement. > > MERGE It is your itch. Not mine. >> Whiny people who can't learn a new technology. > > I could... I just don't wa

RE: You guys are so funny.

today I do. On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 21:01, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > Dude, do you really need to respond to *every single* piece of mail? > > Jeff > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:51 PM > > To: Jakarta General

RE: You guys are so funny.

Dude, do you really need to respond to *every single* piece of mail? Jeff > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:51 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > [part bazillion deleted] -- To

Re: You guys are so funny.

ant. > > Talk is cheap and almost useless, as we've all heard the last two days. > Code/Docs are far more valuable. I believe the usual way is to start with a > cohesive proposal. > agreed. Writing docs for centipede. > As for people shoving Maven down other people's throats, I'd like to know

Re: You guys are so funny.

> I listen to the following: > > Code. > Patches. > Real suggestions for improvement. MERGE > Intelligent discussion. > duhhh > I don't listen to the following: > > Flame wars about technologies used. so why did you start one > Whiny people who can't learn a new t

Re: You guys are so funny.

My understanding is that the Maven guys are totally against merging and collaborating. So it isn't just jon. -Andy On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 19:57, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > [snip] > > As for people shoving Maven down other people's throa

Re: You guys are so funny.

Oddly the centipede side supports collaboration On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 19:53, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I think I've been saying this long enough. . MERGE MERGE MERGE! > > > I can't help sitting here thinking about how the com

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 18:33, Peter Donald wrote: > Hi, > > OJB deserves to be a peer to other projects alongside ant, avalon, struts etc > > A somewhat better idea IMO would be to use OJB + Torque as a trampoline for a > new top-level project "db.apache.org" (or insert something more snappy if

Re: You guys are so funny.

I really wonder why it is that all one has to do is say "Microsoft" on any Apache thread and they get 100 responses. I wonder if it works that way on whatever-microsoft-related-lists are out there. -Andy On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 18:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Michael McCall

Re: You guys are so funny.

> For all the nasty things Microsoft has done over the years, they have also > been pretty good at one particular thing -- asking their customers (and > potential customers) what they want, and listening to the answer. > > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want > "ever

Re: You guys are so funny.

And he has such a good straight man in Andrew. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 4:57 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I tried to point out in my parenthetical remark -- it wasn't the Maven > committers who started this whole thing ... it was our favorite iconoclast > himself (Jon), who seems to believe that anything that makes him happy > s

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > As for people shoving Maven down other people's throats, I'd like to know > where the Maven developers have been doing that. From what I can see the > Maven developers have been fairly balanced. > As I tried to point out in my parenthetica

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think I've been saying this long enough. . MERGE MERGE MERGE! I can't help sitting here thinking about how the committers on projects being told to "MERGE MERGE MERGE" must feel like two young adults whose parents want them to get married (an

Re: You guys are so funny.

Berin Writes: | Craig R. McClanahan wrote: | > | > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want | > "everyone" to use would think about going and asking the potential users | > (i.e. committers on various other projects) what their requirements are, | > before any attempt

Re: You guys are so funny.

> I think I've been saying this long enough. . MERGE MERGE MERGE! How about we all stop the windbagging and start the code. If you've got an itch scratch it - lets take this dicsussion to Krysalis-dev, as it's completely OT here. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multit

Re: webapp invoker doesn´t work

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edson Alves Pereira) writes: > I´m using Tomcat 4.0.3 and Apache 1.3.2 and the Tomcat´s invoker > doesn´t call my servlets. I think that i´ve already done > everything, where i can get a good howto about? Be sure you are using Catalina's default web.xml (by placing it un

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

I think ojb can do things like map a set of related objects to xml as well. Its not completely database centered. (I know very little about ojb, so feel free to dispute that. Just thought I would bring it up in case those that know better, are tuned out.) john mcnally On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 15

Re: You guys are so funny.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > the standards. Standards are funny things. There's always so many to choose

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/2/02 6:09 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it means no more daily messages about object relational mapping tools > on this list... Right - would keep the list clear for the current important stuff... ;) > then it has my full blessing! I suggest an effort be > ma

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

Hi, OJB deserves to be a peer to other projects alongside ant, avalon, struts etc A somewhat better idea IMO would be to use OJB + Torque as a trampoline for a new top-level project "db.apache.org" (or insert something more snappy if you want). So much like xml.apache.org deals with XML, db.ap

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Michael McCallum wrote: > > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > > the standards. > > > Microsoft did not get where it was

Re: You guys are so funny.

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >On 5/2/02 5:45 PM, "Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Even the Velocity vs XSLT could be a case for Worse is better :-) >>(Seriously, I have been thinking along these lines for the last days) >> >> > >That's DVSL vs XSLT. > > I was slightly off-foc

RE: You guys are so funny.

Craig, great remark... otherwise: lack of constructive answers to both the outspoken and implicit questions in this thread make me wonder if those very committers here the question? want to answer? (I don't dare to question the eagerness to go and scratch the itch of course :-)) some constructive

Re: You guys are so funny.

On 5/2/02 5:45 PM, "Santiago Gala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Even the Velocity vs XSLT could be a case for Worse is better :-) > (Seriously, I have been thinking along these lines for the last days) That's DVSL vs XSLT. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research & Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROT

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

If it means no more daily messages about object relational mapping tools on this list... then it has my full blessing! I suggest an effort be made to move all the connection pools and all that over there and start thinking up some orthogonal organization scheme. The committers there should have

Re: You guys are so funny.

> > :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard > and friendly GUI. > I am running UNIX (well Linux but its close enough) on my desktop with a standard and friendly GUI Of course I'm running MS Office for testing Java generated XLS files on my UNIX desktop all ma

Re: You guys are so funny.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You all seemed to miss my point. M$ does not support standards they make then. I dont like it but thats the way things work. I run pure gnu-linux. If you make something easy to use people use it. It becomes a standard. Simple. For complex things

Re: You guys are so funny.

explain exactly WHAT that has to do with this? Who gives a rats behind about Microsoft. (warning: irony) -Andy On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 16:52, Michael McCallum wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > > 'simple

RE: You guys are so funny.

Jon said: > On top of it, in *years*, no one has gone and replaced Jakarta-site2 with > anything better. Sure, Craig did a XSLT stylesheet, but no one changed the > main Jakarta site to use it and I still see new Anakia sites on > Sourceforget.net all the time. Which, I believe, highlights a ma

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I hate to interrupt all the good fun over standards, bike sheds, and general > good community feelings, but I would like to solicit community opinion on > something unrelated to DVSL or Jon Stevens (both of which I like, btw...) You're taking away all the fun :) > >

Re: You guys are so funny.

On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Berin Loritsch says: >> >>> There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it >>> is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. >> >> >> >> Whenever someone tells me how

Re: You guys are so funny.

Berin Loritsch wrote: > Michael McCallum wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >>> I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if >>> 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to >>> get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT

Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

I hate to interrupt all the good fun over standards, bike sheds, and general good community feelings, but I would like to solicit community opinion on something unrelated to DVSL or Jon Stevens (both of which I like, btw...) Recently, it was proposed that ObjectBridge be brought to Jakarta as a

Re: You guys are so funny.

Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > It seems to me that authors of a build environment that they want > "everyone" to use would think about going and asking the potential users > (i.e. committers on various other projects) what their requirements are, > before any attempt (by those authors, or by anyo

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Thu, 2 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:24:58 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > > > Berin Loritsch says: > > There are other

Re: You guys are so funny.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Berin Loritsch says: > >>There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it >>is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. > > > > Whenever someone tells me how much MSFT has done for technology, I > can't help but think of how far we mi

Re: You guys are so funny.

Berin Loritsch says: > There are other dirty underhanded things that M$ did to get where it > is today. Don't try to compare us to M$. We're not M$. Whenever someone tells me how much MSFT has done for technology, I can't help but think of how far we might have gotten if MSFT hadn't been so i

Re: You guys are so funny.

> > > >Nope I'm not missing your point. I'm just waiting for the salient points to >come out. This DVSL vs. XSL thing is a complete red herring. You've said: > >[Andy] > >> 2. I'll -1 anything that REQUIRES me to use DVSL if I don't want to. >> And? Youre point? I don't want to use DVSL. So

Re: summary: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

(sorry i wanted to delete this rather than send it) - robert On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 10:18 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 09:53 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > snip> > >> I'm +1, but I really want to discuss Costin's idea making a subproject >> around OJB

Re: You guys are so funny.

Michael McCallum wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if >>'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to >>get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are >>the standards. >> > > Micro

Re: summary: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 09:53 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: snip> > I'm +1, but I really want to discuss Costin's idea making a subproject > around OJB that allows other db-related projects to 'join' as peers in the > subproject. > > From my point of view, having it open like that, and not

Re: You guys are so funny.

> > > >Why am I so obnoxious about all this? My commercial alter-ego (I did >start up a company 6 months ago, hopefully I will now be respected as a >grown-up ;-) wants to provide such an infrastructure to my customers, >since they are going already through the pain of switching from Cobol to >Jav

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge]

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Re: summary: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

On 5/2/02 10:10 AM, "Martin Poeschl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jason van Zyl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to propose ObjectRelationalBridge >> (http://objectbridge.sourceforge.net/) as a top level subproject of >> Jakarta. > > > the voting so far: > > Stefan Bodewig +1 > Craig McCl

Re: You guys are so funny.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > the standards. > Microsoft did not get where it was by using

Re: You guys are so funny.

- Original Message - From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: You guys are so funny. > You're still missing the point ... The main detail to me is I'd like to > use a combined collaborat

RE: You guys are so funny.

Pedantic, I know, but here goes anyway: Leo wrote: > Avalon currently uses cocoon (sort of an eat-your-own-dogfood > case), and > other developers would like this to stay that way. There is a tool(4) > that does the same thing as the jakarta project, created by > people from > xml.apache. The to

Re: webapp invoker doesn´t work

Edson Alves Pereira wrote: > I´m using Tomcat 4.0.3 and Apache 1.3.2 and the Tomcat´s invoker doesn´t call my >servlets. I think that i´ve already done everything, where i can get a good howto >about? > > You happened to jump into the fire of a project join/split discussion. I'd strongly r

Re: You guys are so funny.

Steven Noels wrote: >Jon wrote: > >>on 5/2/02 11:52 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>1. I need something that supports XSL in my build framework >>> >>Somehow I doubt that. >> >>-jon >> > >I will submit this thread as background material for my JSR proposal >based upon the

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > >Sure, the developers are working together on *some* stuff, but the core >products they are not and my original Tomcat arguments were that it was lame >to have two different containers. I got proven wrong from the point of view >that enough people wanted T3 to survi

Re: You guys are so funny.

> Bike Sheds > -- > > At first, people -1'd the use of Anakia to generate the Jakarta website. But > then when I took the effort to make it simple and easy to use and took away > the bike shed argument, people adopted it and used it all over the world. I really _don't care_ whether it is

RE: You guys are so funny.

Jon wrote: > on 5/2/02 11:52 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. I need something that supports XSL in my build framework > > Somehow I doubt that. > > -jon I will submit this thread as background material for my JSR proposal based upon the existing JSR-57: "Long-Term Pers

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >on 5/2/02 1:25 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>And because if we just use all jon's pet projects only jon would get >>anything done ;-) >> > >Maven isn't my pet project. > >I just like it cause it works for me. > >-jon > And if the two were to work

Re: You guys are so funny.

You're still missing the point ... The main detail to me is I'd like to use a combined collaborated project... I'd -1 solely on that. Centipede more completely fits MY needs and will make it easier for me to work with several projects that I need (not just tlaking about xsl)... I'd -1 solel

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 1:25 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And because if we just use all jon's pet projects only jon would get > anything done ;-) Maven isn't my pet project. I just like it cause it works for me. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For addit

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > And because if we just use all jon's pet projects only jon would get > anything done ;-) Jon is not developing Maven or DVSL. This line of argument has grown tired... -Kurt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional co

Re: You guys are so funny.

If you hate ME to messages scroll to the end where there is one minor point or just register a "me too" and move on... ;-) > > > Finally. Jon, I knew you could do it. You wrote your first intelligent > post in this whole thread! :-D > > ;P > > There are things to like with both projects.

webapp invoker doesn´t work

I´m using Tomcat 4.0.3 and Apache 1.3.2 and the Tomcat´s invoker doesn´t call my servlets. I think that i´ve already done everything, where i can get a good howto about? With best wishes, Edson Alves Pereira __ Your favorit

Re: You guys are so funny.

> > >>The next thing to replace jakarta-site2 will be Maven. Just like with >>Anakia, I honestly don't care if you -1 it. You aren't doing the work and >>therefore your argument against it is simply a bike shed and is thus not >>valid in my opinion. >> > >I hope another jakarta commiter will join

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 12:26 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never used ( and I don't plan to use ) Anakia How did you generate this diff? Come on Costin, you keep shooting yourself in you

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 12:23 PM, "GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned >> that you can't >> force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our >> history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for >> something lik

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 11:52 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. I need something that supports XSL in my build framework Somehow I doubt that. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: You guys are so funny.

> > You guys are so funny. My name is Hammer. I like to rave! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon calling me 'hypocrite' That is a bit funny, at least after reading his arguments on this thread. ( and how this thread started, and all his actions on this subject ). Well, as I said I will vote -1 on any switch to Maven wherever I have a vote. I never used ( and I don't plan to use

RE: You guys are so funny.

>> Jon, take a closer look into tomcat-dev and you'll see that >> projects could works together, using others ways in JTC, >> coyote, jk/jk2, are the proof that tomcat developpers from >> 4.x and 3.3.x could works together... > >Yeah right... And now where do _I_ stand? Hehehehehe :) > Near me my

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projectsto maven!)

Leo Simons wrote: (...) >>Andrew, consider using the CSS from the Tigris Style project >>. It's a new project, but already in use in >>several major OSS code bases, including Maven, Scarab, and Eyebrowse. >> >> > >I looked at these and they're a major pain in the *

Re: You guys are so funny.

> > > >Cool. I like being funny :-) > >Hey, Paulo! Let's meet! We can become friends and switch xsl:templates! > > > Count me in! I was thinking we could rewrite Velocity using a self expressing XSL-based language, you know make it completely declarative and have the Java done on the back with

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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: > WIth certain limitations. Where is the Nag entries, etc.? The nag entries are there now, after it was pointed out yesterday that they weren't being added. I'm not sure what "etc" needs to be added to the descriptor besides that, but I'm sure that we

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Jon wrote: > People > -- > > Needless to say, the attitudes here are becoming more and > more familiar. > Andrew reminds me of the early days of dealing with Peter > Donald (credit to > Peter for eventually coming to his senses...I think joining > the PMC helped). > Steven reminds me of P

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> > > >People >-- > >Needless to say, the attitudes here are becoming more and more familiar. >Andrew reminds me of the early days of dealing with Peter Donald (credit to >Peter for eventually coming to his senses...I think joining the PMC helped). > because I refuse to adopt things if they d

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"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned >> that you can't >> force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our >> history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for >> something like >> that. You hypoc

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Kurt Schrader wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: > > >>There are things to like with both projects. However you do ignore some >>things that are important. GUMP integration is important--I like the >>fact that Centipede works out of the box with it. > > > Just to clear this u

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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: > There are things to like with both projects. However you do ignore some > things that are important. GUMP integration is important--I like the > fact that Centipede works out of the box with it. Just to clear this up, "ant maven:gump-descriptor" wil

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>Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned >that you can't >force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our >history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for >something like >that. You hypocrite. Again and again, the same bullshits. Jon, ta

Re: [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends (was Re: You make the decision(was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!))

> > > >Seems like overkill to stop a project based on the stylesheet technology, >but it's your choice to make. > Its not ONLY the tag language. And its the refusal to collaborate that really irks me. Furthermore, there model of seperation of centipede looks nicer. I'd like to see the two ide

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