Re: [Gimp-user] gimpshop breaks Gimp 2.4 in Ubuntu Hardy Heron

2008-07-26 Thread Robert Kennedy
FYI - I have written up some instructions on how to get the gimp to run again in Hardy Heron when gimpshop is also installed. If your are having problems getting the Gimp to run in other distros where gimpshop is installed, give these instructions a try. They should work but you might need

Re: [Gimp-user] gimpshop breaks Gimp 2.4 in Ubuntu Hardy Heron

2008-07-25 Thread Robert Kennedy
Akkana writes: It's a fairly well known problem, at least among people who maintain both a locally built gimp and the one installed from their distro. The current 2.5 release notes have a reasonable description of what's happening (which also apply to gimpshop or any version of gimp you

Re: [Gimp-user] gimpshop breaks Gimp 2.4 in Ubuntu Hardy Heron

2008-07-24 Thread Akkana Peck
Robert Kennedy writes: After more testing and investigation, it looks like AWN is NOT to blame in breaking the gimp in Hardy Heron [ ... ] But then I did a sudo ldconfig. Then gimp stopped working. (But gimpshop still worked). If you did a ldd `which gimp-2.4`, you would see the gimp

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-13 Thread John R. Culleton
On Thursday 12 July 2007 19:13, Chris Mohler wrote: On 7/12/07, John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone can set up a list at yahoogroups. I see some with three members. The owner of the list can set the rules, allow anyone to join or requre preapproval, prescreen or not prescreen

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-13 Thread Chris Mohler
On 7/13/07, John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007 19:13, Chris Mohler wrote: [...] Yahoo Group messages are nastily formatted HTML. I hear the Google Groups has added mailing lists -- I wonder if that's any better? On [EMAIL PROTECTED] we ask for plain

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: Why is this our problem? Our list our community is being distracted by it. That gives us a facet of the problem. We can reduce that facet by simply saying That's a GimpShop problem, please take it http://here/; in response. Hopefully, this will

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread John R. Culleton
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 17:16, Leon Brooks wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: The GPL allows forks, but doesn't require the organization that was forked from to provide support to the fork. True. However, I'm wondering if there's anyone here willing to moderate such a

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On 7/12/07, John R. Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone can set up a list at yahoogroups. I see some with three members. The owner of the list can set the rules, allow anyone to join or requre preapproval, prescreen or not prescreen posts, set up assistant moderators and so on. I am the

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-11 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: The GPL allows forks, but doesn't require the organization that was forked from to provide support to the fork. True. However, I'm wondering if there's anyone here willing to moderate such a list, what it would coist to run such at Berkeley? The

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop list

2007-07-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 05:16:56AM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007, Manish Singh wrote: The GPL allows forks, but doesn't require the organization that was forked from to provide support to the fork. True. However, I'm wondering if there's anyone here willing to

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-04 Thread Geoffrey
Brendan wrote: On Thursday 02 March 2006 08:19, Geoffrey wrote: Because Gimshop has generated more excitement than the Gimp ever has and certain people might be a little ruffled? Who are you kidding? Why don't you simply take your trolling elsewhere. I've been using gimp for years now,

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-04 Thread Axel Wernicke
Am 05.03.2006 um 06:41 schrieb Brendan: On Saturday 04 March 2006 09:07, Geoffrey wrote: lots of flaming and trolling in here You couldn't do this war on private pm instead of the list? Could you?! ___ Gimp-user mailing list

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-02 Thread Geoffrey
Brendan wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 05:46, Manish Singh wrote: Gimpshop slaps the people who know the code of gimp in the face, and then expects gimp.org to take up the slack because they don't know how to properly support a community. I don't see why the animosity is so surprising.

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-02 Thread Alan Horkan
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Ross Brown wrote: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 02:45:28 + From: Ross Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GIMPUser Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop Sorry for jumping in half-way through a conversation that I haven't been entirely privy to - but I

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:01:12AM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Manish Singh wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:01:05AM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: Would you consider Gimpshop a successful fork? Considering Gimpshop can't even keep their own website online, I'd

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)

2006-03-01 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:24:15AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Selon Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For Gimpshop, it was all about forking from the get go. There was no discussion, no proposal in any of the several places to discuss GIMP development. No other possibilities were

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)

2006-03-01 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 11:48:06AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Selon Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Von: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it was put in bugzilla, the patch would have been refused, or we would have asked him to work on it. That's how things are handled in

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)

2006-03-01 Thread Brendan
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 06:01, Manish Singh wrote: Scratched an itch, and caused tons of confusion in a community. Horrible. Oh well, it's done. Bitching now isn't helping, so why not try to resolve the situation? ___ Gimp-user mailing list

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Manish Singh
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 08:39:41PM -0500, Brendan wrote: On Wednesday 01 March 2006 05:46, Manish Singh wrote: Gimpshop slaps the people who know the code of gimp in the face, and then expects gimp.org to take up the slack because they don't know how to properly support a community. I don't

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Ross Brown
Sorry for jumping in half-way through a conversation that I haven't been entirely privy to - but I just wanted to make a suggestion/point that is (I hope) relevant. On 2 Mar 2006March2, at 02:33, Manish Singh wrote: Perhaps all that's really needed is the PS menu-GIMP menu mapping

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Tom Williams
Ross Brown wrote: If Gimp is to become a replacement for Photoshop then, whether it appears to be good practice or not, it has to accommodate its potential users and work as they are used to working (in the short term at least). I'm sure there are many people who will argue - and possible

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Harish Narayanan
Manish Singh wrote: Give it a shot. Make a proposal to the developer list, detailing what you'd like to see and why it would help you. Actually detail what the menus are in photoshop, and what the equivalents are in GIMP, and give justification. Same for keybindings. Do not assume people

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Paul Bloch
Hi, I'm also just jumping in to this conversation. To be honest when I heard about Gimpshop I got excited about using Gimp again. I've downloaded it and have used it and having the familiar menus made it far easier for me to use the program. I think that there is a larger question that needs to be

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-03-01 Thread Tom Williams
Paul Bloch wrote: To take an example that would also apply to Gimp, when showing us different methods she came across a tool that didn't allow you to preview the effect and she simply said,This is pretty useless, you can't see what you're doing. So there is a functional and productive

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)

2006-02-28 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Selon Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For Gimpshop, it was all about forking from the get go. There was no discussion, no proposal in any of the several places to discuss GIMP development. No other possibilities were attempted. Put things in perspective - the guy wrote a patch. It's a

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-02-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Robert Citek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Manish Singh wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:01:05AM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: Would you consider Gimpshop a successful fork? Considering Gimpshop can't even keep their own website online, I'd say no. Then why

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)

2006-02-28 Thread Dave Neary
Selon Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Von: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it was put in bugzilla, the patch would have been refused, or we would have asked him to work on it. That's how things are handled in Bugzilla, so what is the problem? The guy scratched an itch. Why should

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-02-28 Thread JC Dill
Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Robert Citek [EMAIL PROTECTED] But enough trash talk about Gimpshop. Tell me how wonderful this forum is. What makes this forum shine? Well, I'd be more happy to answer this if you drop forum and use list instead. fo·rum Pronunciation (fôrm, fr-) n. pl.

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-02-28 Thread JC Dill
Michael Schumacher wrote: JC Dill wrote: So when someone asks you to tell them how wonderful this forum is, you can assume they are inviting comparison with all other forums on the topic, not just other mailing lists. Well, this is a mailing list. Anyone who uses it via a different access

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-02-28 Thread Geoffrey
JC Dill wrote: Michael Schumacher wrote: JC Dill wrote: So when someone asks you to tell them how wonderful this forum is, you can assume they are inviting comparison with all other forums on the topic, not just other mailing lists. Well, this is a mailing list. Anyone who uses it via a

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop (was: blue + yellow = green)

2006-02-27 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:01:05AM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:54 PM, Manish Singh wrote: The guy who did Gimpshop decided to do his own thing, and didn't consult the community at all before doing it. Since he didn't engage the community and those who actually know

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimpshop

2006-02-27 Thread Robert Citek
On Feb 28, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Manish Singh wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 12:01:05AM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: Would you consider Gimpshop a successful fork? Considering Gimpshop can't even keep their own website online, I'd say no. Then why the fuss? But enough trash talk about

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-02 Thread Pierre-Alexis
Maybe GimpShop should become an option in the Gimp preferences ? You choose the interface you want when you install The Gimp, and you can change it in the Preferences... PA. --- Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wayne wrote: One thing good about GimpShop is that I am now able to run

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-02 Thread Frédéric
On Samedi 02 Avril 2005 19:28, Pierre-Alexis wrote: Maybe GimpShop should become an option in the Gimp preferences ? You choose the interface you want when you install The Gimp, and you can change it in the Preferences... This is really a good idea. Instead of having an other version, I

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-02 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Pierre-Alexis wrote: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:28:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Pierre-Alexis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop Maybe GimpShop should become an option in the Gimp

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread Tom . Williams
Those who crave a PhotoShop interface almost finally have it. :) Thanks for the link. I will pass on this.. Peace... Tom wayne

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread Eric Pierce
I tried it and didn't see any changes to the interface. GimpShop only rearranges the menu structure to emulate Photoshop's a little closer. It's really meant for a PS user who is transitioning to the Gimp. If you're familar w/the Gimp, there's no need to use it (correct me if I'm wrong).

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread wayne
On Friday 01 April 2005 05:06 pm, Tom Williams wrote: Eric Pierce wrote: I tried it and didn't see any changes to the interface. GimpShop only rearranges the menu structure to emulate Photoshop's a little closer. It's really meant for a PS user who is transitioning to the Gimp. If

Re: [Gimp-user] GimpShop

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Williams
wayne wrote: One thing good about GimpShop is that I am now able to run Gimp 2.2.4. Have not been able to install a RPM successfully till now. Wayne :) Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu