Re: [LU] Non LU: Champs League
Or rather, being French, Platini will pass them but never implement them. Damian On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Alan Edgar alan.ed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Platini's rules won't ever get passed, they will have to be amended. Cheers, Al ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] So, what does the season hold?
That's interesting. However, did they do the same exercise last year and if so how close were they? Damian On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Guy Thornton guy.thorn...@inter.nl.netwrote: Infostrada is the sports stats agency which you've probably heard of or come across (they get mentioned regularly by users such as papers or the BBC in live text broadcasts. They have become, in a few years, the leading supplier of sports stats and a friend has been with them since the beginning. They have built up a club coeffincent for all (top) european clubs based on results over the last seasons. For the start of the european seasons they have produced predicted league tables for all the top divisions in each europea coutries including lower divisions on some, ie Germany they cover the first three Bundesliga and for England all four divisions. For the championship they've got Leeds down as finishing 19th. Okay it's purely a stats thing and I would have prefffered a little higher but I'll settle for that. It's aboe the relegation zone and means we can consolidate and I wasn't expecting promotion, or even play-offs, this season. guy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Interesting factettes from the BBC
*...Let's hope they're not famous last words...* * * *Damian* * * *Leeds* • Leeds have recouped an unrivalled four Championship points from losing positions this season. • They have had 59 attempts on goal - 31 of them on target - and hit the woodwork seven times. • United have committed 61 fouls this season - more than any other team in the division. The Yorkshire side's high-tempo style has caught the eye, and has seen them have more attempts on goal this season and hit the woodwork more times than any other team in the division. But at the other end of the pitch they have been prone to the odd lapse - especially early in games. They have let in three goals in the opening 15 minutes - more than any other Championship team - and are yet to concede in the league after the 27th minute. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Audacity question
Whilst I was in England I bought a turntable with a usb key to convert my records to electronic format. The turntable came with Audacity software which does the conversion In spite of looking at the (one page of) instructions and trying to go through the help I dont know how to tell the software where the tracks are on a record - does anyone know Audacity and can anyone help. Bien sur off-list. Thanks Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Preston
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote: to think himself too much. We all need a good come uppance once in a while. Maybe, but twice in four games ? That speaks of far more. ___ One for each lug 'ole? ;)) Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] NONLU: Vectoria
Presumably if you worked that out in less than 45 seconds you passed the test. Where do we get our prizes ;) Damian On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Robinson, Mick mick.robin...@miq.comwrote: Mobile Spirograph ? -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Barber Sent: 12 October 2010 11:39 To: list leedslist Subject: [LU] NONLU: Vectoria Something for the app lovers amongst us: http://vectoria.co.uk/ Best, Nigel. -- vectoria.co.uk concentrichron.com -- Mindbrix -- Dream it, draw it, build it, love it 69 Derby Street Beeston Nottingham NG9 2LG +44 7905 311 352 ni...@mindbrix.co.uk www.mindbrix.co.uk Skype: ntbarber twitter.com/mindbrix ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Grella......
I have to agree - I thought that Barry was very poor last night, the only time he showed on the telly was making mistakes. The other player who was crap was Cole. As Cheryl might has said - he may be very active but he seriously lacks judgement and discretion (and I'm sure I've seen it suggested that he's constantly going up blind alleys ;) Damian. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I'd have Becchio in my team before Gareth 'fat arse' Barry. Now how he gets near the England team I do not know.. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] New manager + Kaspar
Hi Richard, You are right to point out the results and, by implication, that something is not right. But in regards to the manager's performance there are some of the reports that don't make sense. Others have criticised Johnson starting and yet you say that he was probably our best player on the night. Then you seem to criticise SG's decision to replace Somma with Nunez - but go on to score Somma 2 and Nunez 6. So where are the problems? Is it down to individuals? Is it systems? Is it motivation? Is it the team's overall quality? I tend to agree with the holding player analysis (Doyle/ Faye) that someone posted earlier but I'm far too far away to be sure. If we are missing a player for a key position then all the tinkering in the world with the rest won't make a bit of difference. What is your opinion? (And before you start you'll find it hard to convince me that it is all Becchio's fault ;)) Damian On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Damian + Ted, I think it would be ridiculous to sack Grayson but you've got to be concerned with the results - we're conceding 4,5,6 goals most weeks now. That sort of form usually gets the manager the sack. My worry is the same as Simon Hart's in that Grayson went with the same midfield that were so poor against Leicester ? How can he do that ? When Bradley Johnson is your biggest attacking threat on the night with his long range efforts you've got to worry. We again went through 45 mins (nearly 90 mins) without troubling their keeper - a save from Snodgrass is all we managed in 90 mins Also when he drags his top scorer off and puts a young rookie on theyn you just think that here's a manager that is running out of ideas. Why was Somma (and Becchio) not having good games ? THere was no service to them, there was nobody creative. Grayson looks like a broken man but I expect him to get his act together and put out a team that will have a good go in the next 2 away games. My scores: Kasper - 3. Was he fit ? He was awful. Connelly - 5. Was the best of the bad bunch at the back. Collins - 3. Actually defended better in the first half but still not up to it. Bruce - 4. Should have cleared the ball for the first goal but still much better and I think he has potential. McCormack - 3. What has happened to him ? Howson - 3. A few glimpses but playing on his own in central midfield. Faye - 1. Just not with the pace, ok on the ball but that's not good enough. Snodgrass - 3. Slow, fat and not up to it. Johnson - 5. At least he had a go and was probably our best player on the night. Becchio - 5. Playing at the top of his game but still not nearly good enough. When he got the ball and was in space , he ran with it, swivelled round and fell over. Same old , same old. Get rid quick. Somma - 2. Worse I've seem him play but why ? 1) Shit partner 2) Shit midfield. Subs: Gradel - 6. Had a go. Nunez - 6. Also had a go but is he centre forward ? Reminded me of Aaron Lennon. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 5, Issue 5
hear hear Damian On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:59 AM, humphries mark mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Get over it! This was the bloke who gave up a million quid or so to help the club out. I suspect he is more Leeds than you are, dont think you'd just give £1m away to the club? I think he will help the team immensely, first he has the passion for the club, whatever you and others like you think, and second he has been playing a holding midfield role for the last few years - apparently exactly what we need. I for one hope this is true and that it happens. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Fwd: Kids football clubs
I've got 5 trainers, all in their early/ mid 20s and that's precisely the message I try to dun into them. However like most football people (Leeds fans anyone?) their personalities tend to be balanced between ignorant and pig-headed and whatever platitudes they mouth, some of them are soon screaming and creating at the kids. It's a real shame. As it probably comes from their own football education it is probably already being passed on to the next generation. Having said that, when I see the behaviour and comportment of the adults of the clubs we play against I'm bludy proud to be in my club. Damian sort of apologies for non-LU stuff On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.ukwrote: Make sure you get them playing football, no matter what results you get! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Kids football clubs
I looked at your website. You're obviously way richer than us - when can you get over to France ;) Damian On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Cass thecas...@bigpond.com wrote: Knox United Soccer Club www.knoxunited.com your friendly Club Secretary at your disposal Pete C ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] NONLU: Vectoria in the app store now
Mornington Crescent? Damian On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Graham Longbottom glong...@hotmail.comwrote: Nice use of the Goldberg Variations! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] White again
...For Oldham ce soir. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Non LU Pearl Dean
I went to the flicks for the first time in years last night. There were trailers but no adverts. I tried to explain to my daughter about Pearl Dean, so I've been trawling the net for clips. I've found the Pearl Dean theme tune (and one of the Kia-Ora adverts) but I've really been looking for You can't bargain with a judge and Ere Bert this is the place. Has anyone come across these clips anywhere? Cheers Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Arsenal away!
A last opportunity to get Eddie Gray playing at left back, and we could maybe persuade David Harvey back from Vancouver at the same time Damian ;) On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:05 PM, m...@leeds-united.net wrote: True. I suppose we aren't going to win it so might as well go out in a blaze of glory. If only we had phil massinga ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Blatter live
I'm listening to Sepp Blatter as I type. The bloke sounds like a real Cnut but I don't think he has the original's way with tides.. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Gruniad article
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/dec/03/joy-of-six-football-trends #2 Sock Tags. Haven't read it all yet but the first paragraph is the nicest thing that the Gruniad has ever said about Leeds. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Non LU - More on World Cup
Left leaning? don't make me laugh. Are you suggesting that England not getting the WC was some sort of socialist plot hatched in a Trotskyist underground cell and gleefully executed by the BBC fellow travellers(*)? They may be publicly funded (another scam involving tax payers funding the elite) but they are commercially and professionally astute and they showed their programme at truely the maximum impact time - not a whiff of sour grapes as been before the fact either. Weren't you in the business? Damian (*) Stalin - Beria, how are our plans to capture the WC coming along Beria - Our infiltration of Harrow and Cambridge means we have the BBC stitched up for generations to come. We will strike when the time is right. Stalin - Ho ho ho, Beria - Ha ha ha On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, John Sykes jsy...@shaw.ca wrote: Question - Can any of you confirm that the BBC News team is left-leaning... meaning, virtually supporting another to do with Labour. Reason I ask this is because in Canada, the CBC, like BBC, is publicly owned ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Burnley report
Looking at our bench, plus the actual substitutions that get made (and their timing...) I don't think that SG has any intention of finishing a match with the same formation that he starts with. Good management? I'm not entirely sure but then again we didn't like losing to Preston did we. For nearly all the time I've followed Leeds, with the honorable exceptions of most Revie teams, a couple of years of Wilko and an exceptionally bright start from DOL, Leeds have always played to their weaknesses and rarely to their strengths. I think that SG has been erring towards caution too over the past 12 months. We're never going to be a team happy to let in 6 goals because we're confident of getting 7 ourselves. Damian On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: One worrying thing though Dave. Why does Grayson continue with the 4-5-1? Even Eddie was questioning it. We seem to be ineffective with this formation and just end up having to change the formation and chase the game. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] For the older expats
http://www.timeimage.org.uk/ - We of the West Riding Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] For the older expats
What made you leave. Trouble u t'mill? coat etc etc Damian On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com wrote: Its about a family called Sykes! Made me feel well homesick... Nigel -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh Sent: 13 December 2010 21:15 To: leedslist Subject: [LU] For the older expats http://www.timeimage.org.uk/ - We of the West Riding Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Not many mails today
Either the list is down - or more likely we're all pretty stunned by what is really unexpected success so far. We were all fairly vociferous after the Preston and Cardiff matches but, apart from the match reports, nada today. Even the mad doctor is dumbfounded. Don't worry though, normal service will soon be restored - we will be losing 3 or 4 (or 5..) on the trot and we can all pitch in with our least favourite players and formations. Untill then though. The list is pretty boring ;)) Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Not many mails today
At more than 50% of turnover, I was surprised at the size of the wages bill. I thought Mr. Bates was tighter than that ;). After a quick rule-of-thumb guesstimate, I was also surprised that gate receipts work out to only about half of the turnover too. I had assumed that in the lower leagues (the figures are surely for the last year in the 3rd division) gate receipts would be by far the bulk of a club's income. Damian On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Ed Morrish edmorr...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, sorry - that actually WAS a match report (that I didn't see in the paper). Here's the hagiography: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2010/dec/20/leeds-united-ken-bates-simon-grayson Cheers, Ed. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Question for the stattos
Does anyone know how the average age of our team/ squad compares to the rest of the division? Many of our key players are in their early 20s and it's only O'Brien that springs to mind as being in his 30s. I think that most teams going for promotion over the years have tended to build around one or two experienced older players (Revie's Collins and Wilko's Strachan spring immediately to mind). For this afternoon's should-be-down-the-pub musing I'm alternating between the hope of a long-lasting improving team and the fear of richer clubs coming in to try and get our players. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Promoted in 2011
...And if it all goes pear shaped we can kiss-and-tell to the NoW for some parachute payments ;) Merry Christmas all. Thanks for all the messages via social medias. As it took over an hour to work out how to send a simple Merry Christmas message this morning I won't be replying ;) Anyone in reach of La Goutelle this evening will be welcome to the ball as my guest (from about 23h on..) Cheers, bonnes fetes, Damian On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk wrote: A very Merry Christmas to everyone. Here's to getting back to where we truly belong in the New Year. Oh. Yes. Will it be too soon? Hmmm Naomi Campbell approached me at a party, high on coke, and desperate for me to bang her senseless in the toilets, no questions asked. Obviously I told her it was far too soon for those kind of frolics and sternly sent her on my way. The very thought of it! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Portsmouth
But don't we have 4 other centre backs at the club who (some/ most/ all) of us think can do a better job than Collins? If we do have to get someone in - what money Woodgate? Damian On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:46 PM, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.comwrote: BUT we need to get the defence sorted and the sooner the better, whether that means a new centre back being brought in in Janaury we will soon see but without it we have real little chance of staying top 6 Dave ___ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] non LU cricket chant
Listening to TMS, I'm intrigued by the reference to the uncomplimentary chant about Johnson. Anyone know what it is? Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] non LU cricket chant
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[LU] Andy d'Urso
Wasn't he a bogey referee for us? Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] stats
Forest worries me. I know the mantra of points on the board but they have 3 games in hand on us and will be way in front of us if they win them all. Damian On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Robert Heath rhe...@mis-munich.de wrote: It has been such a topsy-turvy division, but it seems to be finally gelling a bitand worryingly it looks to me like the top 6 places are going to be fought for by 7 teams...QPR, the 2 Welsh bastard outfits, Norwich, Mighty Whites, Watford Forest. One of those lot is going to be unlucky! _ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Johnson
I see in the YEP that Johnson will be staying till the end of the season. As I watched the replay on the telly this week I wondered if there would be some magic face-saving formula found to allow resurrection of his dead contract talks. I know that Johnson arguably bore a part of the responsibility for each of the Arsenal goals but equally he's had a share of the praise for a lot of the good stuff we've done over the past month or so (probably since his contract was chucked out of the window). And he's only 23 (I think). I give him credit for his reaction to being told he's not wanted and to the crowd booing him. I also give him credit for his age. Then who would you replace him with when he does go? But what do Johnson's critics think? Richard Walker (;)) - especially as you see more of him than the odd televised cameo - do we hope to keep him or get rid? Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Johnson
;) Well given a hundred matches for Villa he's bound to play well in one of them. A bit like his shooting really Good luck and bon vent to Andy Hughes Damian On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.netwrote: Just seen on some random site that Villa are in for him because he is that good after scoring that goal! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Bye Bye Andy.....
One wonders how the Daily Mail (it could only have been them) got hold of the tape in the first place? Damian On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote: I have no particular love for Andy Grey, but it seems unfair to me that what was a bit of minor piss taking between two guys off air, has cost him his job. I agree he and Keays were stupid and they should know better and treat ALL microphones as live, but was it really so much? Sky are using this as an excuse to get rid I reckon. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Notts Forest
As I feared they have started winning their games in hand and we're now in 6th place... Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Notts Forest
I did see that but didn't get the same feeling about Watford. I just knew that NF were going to get the points - there's a good good chance that Watford will slip up. Damian On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Kneale, Andy andy.kne...@jpmchase.comwrote: Watford could also overtake us if they win their game in hand. Gaffer (we're doomed! We are Leeds!) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Transfer Window
I understand they're trying to unload Anelka... ...naw, I'd stick with Becchio Damian On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Andy Ewart andrewew...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, Chelsea will be looking to unload Torres... AndyE On 1 February 2011 13:47, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.com wrote: The emergency loan window opens in 4 days time, I expect we'll do some business then. Andy C ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] transfer window closes
And leaves us with our best team unchanged. I for one think that's good news - I think that they are good enough to go up as they are and it would have been daft to gamble on changes that frankly aren't warranted. O'Brien McCartney and also Johnson Kilkenny are proof enough for me that SG (and the club behind him) are serious about finishing this season with a real go at going up. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] One for the stattoes
By gum! Have you seen where Lucciano is? What are the criteria? Damian On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Sean Emmott s...@canofworms.me.uk wrote: According to the Actim index, 4 of the 12 best players in the Championship this season are at Leeds: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/actim/_/league/eng.2/english-league-championship?cc=3888 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] From the economist... Looks at the strange brand
...By no means everyone in Britain shares my republicanism. Guillermo’s wedding day is likely to be celebrated with street parties, weather permitting. But it does seem that the royal family may have joined the curious class of brands http://manutdsg.com/splash.html and individualshttp://www.simoncowell.org/ who go down better overseas than at home. Given the occasional flare-uphttp://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2011/02/top_gear_backfires of international controversies, it’s handy for Brits abroad to be able to fall back on something that everyone seems to love. Last year I was ordered out of my car at an army checkpoint by a soldier who said he wanted to ask me some questions. The interrogation? “How is la Reina Isabel?”... ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Cup money
I was always under the impression that gate money was 40% - 40% with 20% going to the FA. But aren't TV rights individually negociated nowadays? Damian PS I remember that Highbury used to be famous for its ghost turnstiles (you would have sworn they were there but they never showed up in attendance figures or tax returns). I suppose all that is a thing of the past now. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:32 AM, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.ukwrote: I've asked before but never gotten a good answer on exactly how cup revenues work (i.e., for instance when we play Arsenal or ManU at Highbury/Old Trafford, how are the gate and TV revenues divided). I'm fairly sure that it used to be the away team in an FA Cup tie could ask for up to 25% of the seats, and got 25% of the ticket money. Which is why all smaller clubs want a tie with one of the 'big' teams. Crawley for instance getting 25% of Old Trafford ticket money on the weekend would be like winning the lottery for them. DRB ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Cup money
What gets me is the 1,6M GBP -profit- from a match with 3M GBP gate receipts (I paraphrase). How come it costs 1.4M GBP to stage a football match? Damian On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:50 AM, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.ukwrote: So if the share of the gate receipts is 42.5%, and not 25% as I thought, than that means that having played at Old Trafford, Emirates, and WHL over the last two seasons that would be over GBP2 million from those three games alone - not including the bonus home ties, or the telly appearance money (which used to be about GBP250k per FA Cup game). Which does make you wonder where all that money has gone? DRB ___ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Quit the BS
Take the blinkers off - we just invested in the permanant signing of a premiership centre back. We invested in a new right back at the start of the season. We also invested in a premiership left back for the rest of the season. I know that they have tended to disappoint over the last month but hey, that's life. I'm sure no one would accuse Bates of spending money on players and then telling them to play badly. In any case I think that our defensive problems might well be sourced in midfield and I don't think that it is beyond possibility that there maybe some weaknesses shared between Johnson Kilkenny (much as I'd like them to stay). Damian On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: Sam, ... I do object to penny pinching with profits going who knows where. The profits are not being reinvested. A great attack does not excuse a weak defence. This team with a bit of investment would be promoted. The money is there, but the investments are not. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Bannan!
Does that mean that SG knows him already? Damian On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:28 PM, MATTHEW GAYNOR Ian Holloway, who Bannan played under during his time at Blackpool, described him as a beautiful footballer, absolutely lovely to watch.[22] ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] 2 hoorays
Kilkenny's fighting for his place with a goal ... And Paynter's got one too Damian PS about 60 gone ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Bates attacks the SC -- yet again
The LUSC used to (used to - I've no idea these days) give the impression that it was a rotten organisation that existed for the sole benefit of certain of its members and officials. There were constant scandals about murky finances, about unfair ticket allocation, about unwarranted secrecy and about abuse of process. Living proof if you like that the fans were just as incapable of conducting open and honest business as the evil football directors. Therein lies the rub. Most people who get actively involved in football adminisrration - fans group or director - are not doing it for purely altruistic reasons. Even a Jack Walker had his own agenda. As a typical, powerless, fan you can only hope that the people who run your game have interests that are aligned to yours. That Bates needs Leeds to win things to maximise his profit and that the Peacock serves good beer to maximise the SC profit. And if you don't want to be a typical, powerless, fan - do something about it. Full respect to those who set up AFC Wimbledon and United FC - they are the future for fans. No respect to those idiots who buy green gold scarves but keep on giving their money to the Glazers (;)) Damian (ex-Chairman Benelux SC, see 1st paragraph) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jake Livermore
Presumably he's doug Livermore's son? Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Prague Warsaw Turin Milan
Seeing Rick Duniec's mail last night about Salonika has prompted me to see if there are any listers in the above cities available for the odd beer from time to time. I'm essentially spending my life here (and there and there and there ;)) until July and drinking with colleagues loses its gloss very quickly ... Damian Franz-Josip Tour Company ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Championship TotY
I think he plays CBack now, but the sentiment is the same ;) Damian On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Wrt Harte, wasn't there talk last summer of him wanting to come back to us? If we cant get a LB who can defend, at least lets have one that can score free-kicks and pens! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] non LU AV
I know that the list was neutered a long time ago and LPC sensibilities means we can only openly discuss RW's will he _ wont he homoerotic love-in with our Argy striker. But I actually enjoyed those heady days when the list was just like a conversation in a pub and we could opinionate to our hearts consent. Tant pis, c'est comme ca Are any of you going to vote in the referendum? Do you care? Should we care? Obviously answers on a postcard please because my lesbian Aunt Fanny (Uncle John if she had balls...) would be terribly upset at a publically expressed opinion. Damian Ireland for the Irish Palestine for the Palestinians Combrailles for the Auvergnats and fck the Montluconois I think I should have put a simely somewhere but I dropped it and it got all muddy ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] non LU AV
I'm trying to work out what your angle is given you've picked just about the one issue that has always (post-war) been a free vote :0 Damian On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote: ... So, if for instance the voters of Leeds were deeply in support of capital punishment ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] non LU AV
And I thought that Bagehot was incapable of spinning anymore in his grave ;) What's wrong with getting rid of the partys instead as we live in a post-ideologic world nowadays (don't we? ) Damian This is a local representative for local people ;) On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.ukwrote: Only true democratic vote for me in a NATIONAL election is to get rid of all this Leeds Central, Leeds West constituency nonesense and have a straight vote for legitimate parties ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Good omen?
I think that living in Munchen Rob probably just doesn't like Germans very much. Damian On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote: How disgracefully rude. Fine, if you don't like or approve of the Royal family, you have every right to think so, but to use expressions like that is out of order on a day when those of us who don't think as you do are enjoying the occasion. _ From: Robert Heath [mailto:rhe...@mis-munich.de] Sent: 29 April 2011 10:51 To: Steve Gillen; 'Jim Moran'; e...@morrish.org Cc: 'leedslist'; 'Simon Hart' Subject: Good omen? I note that the Chief Parasite is wearing yellow with a blue rug to keep her precious knees warm. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] non LU AV
To try and tie the thread back together again - given that our politics have followed a traditional Buck house govt. v Carlton house opposition since the Hannovarians took us over (Symbiosis or Parasitism depending on yr POV ;)) are we entering into a world analogous to the dotage of Georg III with the arrival of the D of Cantab on the scene? Does this explain the Lib Dems rise to power? Am I just bored completely out of my skull waiting for a plane that's still 3 hrs away :( Damian PS on my way to a veterans tournament in Montpelier, case full of Slivovitz and Pilsner Urquell after a week in Praha - expecting to lose about 6kg this weekend (the case, not me...). Was my mistake forgetting to tell the wife face to face and doing it by phone from the hotel? ;) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] From today's Gruniad
Leeds United v Barcelona (1975)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOgh3YK1fyQ The season of 1974-75 was the swansong for Don Revie's superlative Leeds United side. Revie had gone, of course, taking the England job in the summer after guiding his boys to their second league title, but the team was still his. As new manager Brian Clough soon found out to his cost. But Leeds suffered as a result of that brief union as well. Their 74-75 side is generally considered to have passed the crest of the hill, but the stats don't quite bear that out. Though they ended the season in ninth place, they were only eight points behind the eventual champions Derby County. Had Clough not effectively given the Rams a seven-point start during his six games in charge at the beginning of the season, Leeds would have been in with a shout of retaining their title. They were also unlucky not to end the season as only the second English team to become European champions. The highlight of their continental run – which ended with controversial defeat to Bayern Munich in the final – was their control in the semi-final of a Barcelona side boasting Johan Cryuff and Johan Neeskens. In this paper, David Lacey wrote of United's long spells of masterful football in the first leg at Elland Roadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOgh3YK1fyQ. Billy Bremner scored a trademark thunderer early on. Barcelona equalised through Juan Manuel Asensi, but Allan Clarke notched a late winner. Utility man Paul Madeley smothered a disappointing Cruyff, while Barcelona's defence, according to Lacey, amounted to nine men and the goalkeeper. Cruyff disappointed me a little, said Leeds' post-Clough manager Jimmy Armfield. But he is a thoroughbred player and I am sure we will see more of him in Spain. But not for the first time in his life, Cruyff went missing on the big stage. Leeds were the best side for the majority of the second leg at Camp Nou http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK14TNFn0LQ, leading through an early Peter Lorimer goal, though they had to hold on for the last 20 minutes after Manuel Clares equalised and Gordon McQueen was sent off for (Lacey again) playing Clares with such vitality that it was nearly a minute before the Barcelona player could be brought round and he played to the end mopping his wounded head with a pad. But hold on Leeds did, and made the final in Paris. Had Franz Beckenbauer been rightfully punished for scything down Clarke, United would have won the biggest prize in club football. But it wasn't to be, and Bayern prevailed. The evening ended in a riot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-zB6xIx3qg. It got so out of hand, writes Rob Bagchi in The Unforgiven, his page-turner of Revie's Leeds, that Bobby Collins, the club's former captain, was head-butted outside the ground by a Leeds fan fooled by his vaguely Teutonic appearance. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Good omen?
Je suis mortellement offendé par ce slur sur la Patrie - qui, d'ailleur a fourni la Royauté de l'Angleterre pendent 750 ans avant ces Boches actuelles ont pris le relai. Ca demande une rencontre Monsieur! Par tradition soit Marble Arch à Londres soit les Champs de Mars à Paris. A vous a decidé Six heures lundi matin aux pistolets! Monsieur Walsh de la Goutelle On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.comwrote: just another ordinary country like France for instance? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Non-LU AV
Like your thinking Graham but should have taken your ideas to their logical conclusion. You would then have seen that your basic premise is almost Leveller and they are a downright Socialist grab at redistribution. No - we can't take the money that has been hard-earned over many generations, even in the name of better democracy. However there are mechanisisms we can use to get the same effect without adding to the burden of our most respectable citizens (that parvenu Thatcher has a lot to answer for!). I suggest additionnal votes for business interests (and we can add seats for long standing Corporations such as the City), and for those who's interests are more landed we can create extra seats (and votes) for sompe of the more exclusive clubs such as the Oxbridge universities. Then our democracy will truly be representative for the great men of our nation, and by bearing the cost from general taxation the little man can also be a full participant in our great Commonwealth. Damian (call me Winnie) On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Graham White gcwhite2...@yahoo.com wrote: Been catching up on the backlog of e-mails on electoral reform but am rather dissappointed at how timid the proposals are. I mean in this post-modern, post-industrial, globalised, we're all in it together society is it really right and proper that some knuckle-dragging Milwall supporter should have as much say in the governance of this great Monarchy of ours as David Beckham or Sir Fred Goodwin? My proposal is this: every British subject will have one vote (to keep things fair) but then (and this is the brilliant bit) anyone can buy as many extra votes as they like! This will ensure that the people who have the most stake in society: bankers, hedge fund traders, professional footballers, Jonathan Ross, Bullingdon Club members, Bernie Ecclestone etc will quite rightly have more say than those with no stake in society: single mothers, benefits scroungers, disability malingerers, scousers, economic migrants etc. I need help in firming up this idea a bit as I'm not sure if we should have a fixed price vote, say £1,000 per vote, which would mean that a fine upstanding member of society such as John Terry would be able to buy 100 votes with a weeks wages. Would we have different price bands for different elections? Say £1,000 for a general election, £500 for local elections and 5p for a Euro Election (as no-one votes in these anyway). Betty what would be a reasonable price for a vote in the Scottish MSP elections? Or should there be a market in votes? We could call it the vote exchange. Think of all the valuable wealth creating activities the clever financial people could come up with - secondary vote trading, vote shorting, collateralised vote trading. Just think you could borrow money to buy thousands of votes all backed up by valuable US mortgage debts or Irish property. Also should there be an upper limit to the number of votes available or should the Government just print as many votes as required. Clearly it wouldn't be fair to ask council staff to count all these extra votes so we would have bloc votes, say 1000 votes per ballot paper. To save time the ballot papers could also be filled in in advance as anyone buying votes is going to be voting for the right party. Obviously, as we live in a globalised world, non-British subjects would be able to buy votes for use in British elections, as I'm sure that Russian oligarchs or the Bahraini royal family would use their votes wisely for the benefit of our Monarchy. And Ken Bates would be able to vote, God bless the saviour of Leeds United! All the money raised from this could go to cutting the deficit. Simples Graham White ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Good omen?
Don't worry about anti-lawyer abuse on this list. I think you'll find that we're all very pro lawyer-abuse here! Damian ;) On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote: *braces self for anti-lawyer abuse* ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?
Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). Today's problem with Final Salary Pensions is the funding. Public Service pensions are unfunded with the govt making guarantees out of taxation. This is a more a philosophical issue than an economic one. However most private companies pensions are under-funded because the private companies DID NOT PAY THE PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS THEY WERE CONTRACTED TO PAY between the mis-80s to around 2005. Basically stock market returns were above average for twenty years so that companies could argue that they did not need to make their full contributions to cover their pension commitments. Now that the trend is under average they are squealing and cancelling this type of pension. There is no mention of them actually repaying the contributions they missed just as at the time there was no mention of offering their employees contribution holidays either. Because I have a great deal of respect for actuarial science, I think that there is a good chance that if a company paid its full contributions over the working life of its employees, there would be no under-funding of a final pension salary scheme. I really do feel that the problems with these schemes is truly (for once) an example of the bosses robbing the workers. Damian PS my first IS job in 1985 was reprogramming pension schemes to allow premium holes and premium holidays so that the employers contributions did not have to be paid. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: ..s idea's pale into insignificance with the concept of the Final Salary Pension Jesus what drugs were we taking when we thought that was a sustainable idea! I am afraid euthanasia is the only answer to our problems.. _ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?
As I said, invest[ment] into productive enterprise - if you are a baker, you probably won't be able to manually make bread anymore (in economically significant quantities) once your in your 70s - if though you invest in a bread making machine with some of your surplus during your productive years then the bread continues to be made after you are in your dotage, so you can continue to eat even though you are no longer directly productive. British and American business preferred to spend the surplus that should have been set aside for pension investment on excess profits (mostly dividends to their shareholders) rather than on productive investment. Like I said I have a great deal of respect for actuarial science, and I don't think there are any surprises in life expectancy today that weren't forseen (and factored into pension calculations) 25/ 30 years ago. The big surprise for companies and therir pensioners is that we don't live in a perpetual bull-market - but then again when you look at the share of profits in our GDP I think that the companies knew that from the beginning! Damian PS - Class traitor! Wages slaves do what the're told. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). I have to say I couldn't agree less. Contributions make up a small part of the final pot., it is the predictions of growth, the poor investment polices, enormous profits and income of the people who manage them and increase in life expectancy that have caused the major part of the problem. Work for say 20 years at a company, retire at 65 (or earlier) and live for 20 years or more on the salary you finish on, do the mathematics old chap. I have been a private consumer of financial products for over 30 years now and have seen enough projections and graphs to fill the devils punch bowl, yet still need to work. Its bad enough in the public sector - which I pay for, but also private companies have had to top them up, taking money out of profits, again which I pay for. ttfn Richard ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?
According to http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-111.pdf life expectancy for a UK male has gone from about 70 to about 75 in between 1981 2011 - say 7,5% increase, I can't find the exact figures at the moment but productivity per worker over the same period has increased by much much more. If we could afford final salary pensions in 1981 (and we could) why can't we today? (clue - the answer is in my preceeding mails ;)) Damian PS I know there are other factors such as migration and often a shorter working life in white collar jobs, but the point is the same On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, invest[ment] into productive enterprise - if you are a baker, you probably won't be able to manually make bread anymore (in economically significant quantities) once your in your 70s - if though you invest in a bread making machine with some of your surplus during your productive years then the bread continues to be made after you are in your dotage, so you can continue to eat even though you are no longer directly productive. British and American business preferred to spend the surplus that should have been set aside for pension investment on excess profits (mostly dividends to their shareholders) rather than on productive investment. Like I said I have a great deal of respect for actuarial science, and I don't think there are any surprises in life expectancy today that weren't forseen (and factored into pension calculations) 25/ 30 years ago. The big surprise for companies and therir pensioners is that we don't live in a perpetual bull-market - but then again when you look at the share of profits in our GDP I think that the companies knew that from the beginning! Damian PS - Class traitor! Wages slaves do what the're told. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). I have to say I couldn't agree less. Contributions make up a small part of the final pot., it is the predictions of growth, the poor investment polices, enormous profits and income of the people who manage them and increase in life expectancy that have caused the major part of the problem. Work for say 20 years at a company, retire at 65 (or earlier) and live for 20 years or more on the salary you finish on, do the mathematics old chap. I have been a private consumer of financial products for over 30 years now and have seen enough projections and graphs to fill the devils punch bowl, yet still need to work. Its bad enough in the public sector - which I pay for, but also private companies have had to top them up, taking money out of profits, again which I pay for. ttfn Richard ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Lees Leeds and reality check
I think he was referring to good enough to play in the Championship Damian On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM, m...@leeds-united.net wrote: Why so? Can be any worse than the current back 4 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 12:51:12 To: LEEDSLISTleedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] Lees Leeds and reality check Nice to know where are expectations lay. Published on Saturday 7 May 2011 10:30 LEEDS UNITED will push Tom Lees towards a competitive debut for the club next season after revealing that interest in the young defender is growing on the back of his outstanding year at Bury. United have received a number of enquiries about Lees’ availability following his contribution to Bury’s promotion from League Two this season. The 20-year-old has played a central role in Bury’s top-three finish, and the club were bidding to snatch the title from Chesterfield during the last round of fixtures this afternoon, Lees worked with United’s first-team squad during their last two pre-season campaigns but manager Simon Grayson opted to send him out on loan for the second time last summer, following on from a previous spell at Accrington Stanley. His 49 outings with Bury have pushed him to within five games of his 100th senior appearance, and Lees could be given the chance to make his competitive debut for Leeds in the Championship next term. Grayson said: “We felt that going out on loan again would benefit him as a footballer and as a person. Monitored “He’s had a great year, he’s scored goals and he’s been part of a successful team. We’ve monitored him and had him watched a lot. “He’ll come back to us, play in our pre-season games, and if he’s good enough to play in the Championship then we’ll have no problem with him doing that. If we think he’s going to be a little bit short then he’ll go out on loan again. But there are plenty of clubs who would like to take him. I’ve had clubs ringing me up already about his availability. For such a young kid to have nearly 100 appearances under his belt is great experience.” United, meanwhile, have pleaded guilty to a Football Association charge of failing to control their players during last weekend’s 1-0 win over Burnley. The club, who were fined £7,500 for a similar offence earlier in the season, have requested a personal hearing. Email to a friend Print this page Sent from my iPhone Dr Michael Benjamin Community Psychiatry ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Let's Not Forget Them
Yes I was there - not just you mate me too, and the wife. It was the last football match she 's gone to, no way to ever get her to another. I hold the police directly responsible for the events of that day even though there was a minority of Leeds fans happy for trouble and there was also a large contingent of Birmingham fans who were allowed to riot with impunity. Damian On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:32 PM, sinisterpicturesDB sinisterpictu...@dogz-bollox.co.uk wrote: Were you at that game Damian? But for a fence giving way, that was a whisker away from being a hillsborough outside the turnstiles. Also only one of a couple of occasions I had actually resigned myself to the fact I was probably about to die. On 11 May 2011, at 10:19, Damian Walsh wrote: Also the day that a young Leeds supporter (14 I think) died at Birmingham after clashes with provocative police and a several police engineered crushes. Damian On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, barbaravi...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] NONLU: scumchester info
It used to be Manchester City but I think that that particular strain might have gone beyond the reach of our most powerful anti-biotics now. Damian On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Eric B barl...@gmail.com wrote: what's an inoculation?? On Monday, May 16, 2011, sinisterpicturesDB sinisterpictu...@dogz-bollox.co.uk wrote: Don't forget about getting your inoculations ;-) On 16 May 2011, at 09:06, eric Barlier wrote: Thanks guys for the info. Im working off your list. Cheers, Eric Sent from my iPad, apologies for any spelling mistakes. On 15/05/2011, at 21:25, Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com wrote: Pete wrote: Live in Leeds and commute !!! Unfortunately that's not an option if you want to get there and back in the same day due to the M62 car park. Avoid Rusholme, Longsight and Levenshulme. Brooklands, Sale and Altrincham are ok and handy for Ringways. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Goal of the month
Cracking goal - 79% of voters think it's the best ;) Damian On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Time to put the famous Leeds vote to good use! http://www.lfe.org.uk/news/goal-of-the-month-april-2011 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Leeds council buys seven acres at Elland Road
what are Leeds United's existing East Stand redevelopment proposals.? I read about West Stand redevelopment as part of the WC bid but I missed East Stand. Is this where the Leeds Village is going to be? Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Worldnet
I don't think I've seen anything about Worldnet for a long time. I'm planning to come this year for a last hurrah - shouldn't we have made a booking for the room or summat by now? Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Johnson etc.
I'm not bloody surprised he cried - he was probably the only one in the squad who had a wage cut clause in the event of relegation... Damian ;) PS I personally would welcome him back as I would most old/ ex Leeds players. Most but not all: Joe Jordan for example but not Gordon McQueen (what an appropriate name..;) On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM, eric Barlier barl...@gmail.com wrote: the Alan smith that cried when we dropped own one league? so those were fake tears?! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Worldnet
I may have blinked and missed. But I don't remember seeing anything about Worldnet thisz year. Do we have a team? Should we be entering one I plan to be there - I got some info from Rogerre about accomodation which I'll be responding to ASAP... Cheers, Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] End of June || Bull Shitting
Given that the only info I've seen coming out of the club has been about people leaving - no, I don't think so ;) Damian On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: Hi Am I alone in thinking that we are being lied to [again] about imminent arrivals and strengthening? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Nobody reading the YEP?
It seems we've signed a keeper and that (possibly) Kilkenny has gone to Bristol City Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Worldnet
Hi All, Apologies if I've missed stuff - highly possible because I spend my life en vadrouille in Eastern Europe at the moment. But. I've (still) not seen owt about Worldnet yet - I'm counting on going but I'll be upset to be the only Lard! Roger - you're probably not reading this, I'll send you something direct. In tha absence of a concerted room-book I'll need just the one for myself. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Non LU - Simon Cowell Act
No apologies for the non LU content - (there's bugger all to talk about anyway at the moment) I see she that someone has just got a police caution for making online remarks about Simon Cowell's organisation and the talent that he finds. There's lots of things to say about both the loser TV that makes Simon Cowell and others very rich, but I'm posting more about the free-speech aspect of this. I think that there are very tough libel and slander laws in the UK, so much so that people come from all over the world to sue because the playing field isn't entirely level. So why does Simon Cowell need a new(ish) criminal act to protect his reputation? Why do governments pander to these people. Pander? Pander! is anyone suggesting that in a different context a Simon Cowell would have a criminal record himself? This is wrong. Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Harvey and Ridsdale
The one has become the Championship (elected) representative on the Football League Board, apparently he has strong views on youth development + fonancial fair play, the other has just bought Plymouth Argyle in the type of deal that makes me feel glad we've got Bates ;) Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Random Worldnet thoughts and questions of a high-maintenance Lard
Well, thanks to Roger my accomodation is sorted for Friday night Satdi night and I've just received confirmation of my flights into and out of Leeds. So can anyone tell me how much a taxi might be from the airport or what bus I can take? I get into Leeds at about 1 in the afternoon on the Friday so if anyone is about for a beer or 3 give us a shout I'm left with the knotty problem of Sunday night - assuming I don't dors chez une habitante, will anyone at Worldnet be going anywhere in the general direction of Keighley on Sunday afternoon/ evening where I might throw myself on the tender mercies of my relatives? No bar to speak of this year. I'll be flying out of Prague so the best I can hope for is a bottle or 2 of slivo with perhaps a sausage in the supporting role. Damian (hoping at this late stage that there's been no screw up over the dates and I won't be the only person at an otherwise empty Boddy) ;0 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Famous Leeds fans was Re: 11/12 shirt
Nice to know that Gandalf was a Leeds fan as a young man Damian ;) On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/leeds-united-home-shirt-1112_12493 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Michael brown!
Isn't he 78? Was the recent change in ownership of Leeds possibly related to clean sucession planning? Does he have kids? Damian ;) On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.netwrote: Please try! He is in charge, he is our owner and this isn’t going to change for the foreseeable future. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Euronet '97 Video
I have the video and it was my motivation for several Worldnets - until we finally stopped kidding ourselves that there would ever be another one ;) Missed highlights (from subsequent years) include that penalty and, a personal favorite, the face of the Lens player who heard the Eau but didn't wait for the de vie Damian On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:20 PM, barbaravi...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies! I have finally been able to put together what passes for a passable DVD of Dave Walmsley's original Euronet '97 VHS video. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] very NON LU: Citroen aint that shit init..
The Evaision (Synergie in the UK?) was great but I made the mistake of changing it for a C8. I think our Scottish barber had one too. I then swapped the C8 for a C1 and found myself with twice the car. But nothing beats cruising round town in a shiny black DS (don't bump it though coz you look an idiot climbing out of the window coz the doors won't open ;) Damian On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.comwrote: On my second C4 Grand Picasso in 4/5 years - only changed to upgrade. Do 500 miles a week and it's one of the best cars I've ever owned. Great resell value to taxi drivers too! Andy C Sent from my iPhone. On 20 Jul 2011, at 16:10, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk wrote: I remembered a few days back some of the lads were saying how shite the citroens were but previously I read that the almighty top gear said otherwise Anyone who thinks citroen's are shit has their head up their arse, what about the SM or DS? http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/bbcworldwide/worldwidestories /pressreleases/2010/12_december/tg_magazine_awards.shtml and anyone who takes their opinions from Clarkson and his 2 obsequious gimp boys suffers similarly. ttfn Richard ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] very NON LU: Citroen aint that shit init..
I always wanted either a Renault Alpine or a Simca Bagheera. I ended up buying a Matra Murena (a modern bagheera) A classic French 3 seater sports car - not only can you go out to dinner with your wife and mistress at the same time, but you have enough passengers to push when the car inevitably breaks down ;) Damian On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:01 AM, markbu...@aol.com wrote: I am proud to say that I have never owned a French car I'm quite tempted by this... _ http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110716003187ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT_ ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110716003187ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT ) Now THAT'S a French car! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Google+
I'd like one too please (and can I be the first to say - and so would my wife ;) Damian On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Andy Clayton andyclayto...@gmail.comwrote: I'd like an invite too please. Sent from my iPhone. On 21 Jul 2011, at 13:20, Lee Jones em...@leedjones.co.uk wrote: I dont think the invites were seeded to the public - they went out to tech journalists and the major papers in the states so they could get on and review Google+ as soon as it landed, and relied on them inviting their mates and it propagating down to the masses. Apparently there are 20M on there already. How many use it regularly though, I dont know. Invite sent btw. On 21 July 2011 12:58, Graham Palmer remlapmah...@hotmail.com wrote: Could I have an invite too, please? Anyone know how Google selected who to invite in the first place? I have a Gmail account and also use Chrome (can't remember whether I had to give any personal details for this though). I'd have thought they'd have sent me one already :o( Mind you, they probably know what a miserable git I am and don't interact with anyone, so didn't bother. I'm just a nosey bugger, really. TIA Graham ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] new away kit
Naw - white socks. We might have lost 4-1 though (but I might be confusing memories there - first day of the season?) Damian PS thanks for all the invites. I did reply only to see the no-reply email address afterwards. Who knows, maybe I'll work how to use the bugger ,now I'm an early adopter , in time to thank you directly ;) PPS starting to get excited about worldnet (is it 10 or 11?) Slivo already in the bag, plans to buy the Ricard at Amsterdam, wondering if I need to pack trousers shoes for the nite-life experience (any tips before 7am CET please) P.s. Didn't we play in all red once, away at Chelsea? A dark day indeed! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Worldnet
Started off the Worldnet weekend by not being allowed on the plane from Amsterdam (security queues too long), finally getting there to encounter a wierd pre-pay taxi system, available to any who wished to brave the torrential downpour and then at last - Boddington Hall. A quick lie down - bugga, all of a sudden it's 2 in the morning. Still - I could take my Satdi morning pre-match asprins without a hangover to dilute their effectiveness. Met up with the rest of the Lards - didn't know anyone though I think I've mt Dean, the team manager, before - possibly the last time I came to Worldnet. They all looked at me as if I was from another planet when I got the Slivovitz out as a pre-match warmup. First match Arsenal. We actually played very well. we were very organised, defended in depth and rarely allowed them a sniff of an opportunity.They still scored though and we couldn't so 0-1. BTW their scorer had done nothing all match - the goal at the end of the second half was almost his first proper touch. I watched Arsenal's next match, same again same bloke scored after not being in it at all. This was unlike us. Our forwards and midfield worked their socks off all weekend for just one goal over five matches. That's a Richard Walker conundrum ;) Second match Bury. For the first five minutes, everything we did right in the first match we did wrong. Bury quickly scored 2 while we weren't organised. The idiot who was playing right back was dropped from the defence and didn't go back for the rest of the tournament ;) The rest of the match was even, in fact we were getting on top and had several chances when Bury scored a third on the break.0-3 Third match Ipswich.Some of the fatest players at worldnet though their average age was appreciably less than ours (we must have been one of the oldest teams in the tournament - Dean thought our average age was around 43). We had all the match, comfortaby playing three at the back even after they changed things and put a decent, fast player up front. We still laboured in front of goal but did get one to give us our only win. One of their fat guys by this time had decided to systematically play the man not the ball and I've got a nice set of stud marks from my knee down to my ankle (yes a stamp, not an over enthusiastic sliding tackle - what is worldnet coming to!). 1-0 Got to go do some work - rest of the report later, Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
[LU] Worldnet partII
Story so far, a lost Friday evening, 2 defeats and a win Fourth and last group match against Halifax: who were the Veterans competition winners last year. Against the best team in the group (there is a twist on Sunday afternoon) we were again committed and organised. Halifax had two players in particular who were very good, the lad up front for them, we snuffed out. But equally their lad at the back completely dominated the Halifax half of the pitch. The match never felt like a nil-nil, it was fast and committed from both sides so there was always the possibility of a mistake. Yep, indeed, we made it. A leg stuck out in the penalty area and a tumbling forward. It looked very soft from where I was but a penalty nonetheless. 0-1 We were spared an 8 o clock start on the Sunday which was a good job. We'd made arrangements to phone later on the Satdi evening to see about going out. When I saw Dean on Sunday morning I apologised for not phoning. But you did he said giving me a funny look. I have no recollection of it at all - apparently I'd called other people too. I'd gone out with some of the lads from Lens and it's true we had a very good time even though we didn't go anywhere particulally exciting. The highlight of the evening that I remember (!!) was getting the 14 yr old son of one of my new friends from Lens his first lipstick smears off a long-legged mini-skirted Russian blond beauty called Alexandra. Don't say he's 14, don't say he's 14 wittered on the others we'd managed to collect along the way. They'll throw us out. Don't worry girls - we were into them for far too much money by then. There was no way we were going to get thrown out :) Back to the football. I left the rest of the slivo back in the room. I could only manage one bit of bacon for breakfast along with six cups of tea, two obligatory asprins then off to the pitch. Preliminary knowkout round v Stockport. Pretty much a stalemate. The highlights for me were a deadleg (that still is giving me trouble) and missing a header I should have buried because I didn't believe. 0-0 extra time 0-0. Penalties 4-5 10 pretty good penalties, our penultimate one hitting the underside of the bar and bouncing down onto the line. 1 cm too high, shades of the QPR semi way back... Out of the competition before 10h00 tant pis. Bury eventually beat Halifax on penalties in the final. We lost to both of them but neither of them were much better than us. If we get a goal scorer for next year we can win the thing ;) Damian PS lots lots of thanks to lots and lots of people but especiallyto Dean, Roger, Betty and Dave Dowden - Thanks guys A+ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] [Leeds Lards] Worldnet partII
Pitchside drinking was at a minimum. 2 bottles of slivovice and a bottle of Ricard. The new Lards aren't the drinkers that the old ones were ;) It was going to be my last Worldnet but I think I'll be back again next year - I'll have to go by car and make sure we have a proper Lards bar again. There is an idea of separating the veterans tournament from the main Worldnet one, with different dates and locations. I have slightly mixed feelings about this, mainly from a nostalgic point of view. But I think a separate vets tournament would be better both for the football and socially. All the more reason for more of us to turn out next year. Damian On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Mark Tuffey wiscole...@hotmail.com wrote: Damian- Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed narrative of the weekends events! Was pitch side drinking kept to a minimum? Surely the Lards had a bar setup on the subs bench? Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire __,_._,___ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Riots
There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before. All we have to do is get the next generation of potential rioters in too then there'll be no more problems. As for the Police. I think thay have much much more power than any of their continental European counterparts - the problem isn't there. Maybe it's more to do with the loss of the Mets senior leadership over the last few weeks plus a massive loss of confidence due to the apparently substansiated allegations of corruption at the highest levels of the Met. Where is the Mayor too? No leadership = vaccum (sp?) = field day for rioters Damian ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Riots
Lots of responses to lots of points - its much easier down the pub ;) First of all, Steve - I hope your wife is OK and its nothing serious. Then the Met and the mayor: no leadership, who is handling these riots (looting without the rioting as far as we see from afar), Superindentants? Divisional comanders? No wonder there's copy cats springing uo all over the place. Who is in charge? And I hope it's not someone who has accepted bribes (apparently substantiated) from any media group who quite frankly have a vested interest in selling papers during August. As for personal responsibility. Yes. But it works both ways. You have to realise that someone may well be better off looting a Dixons than not looting a Dixons. Where is that person's responsibility? Treat him as a scumbag and he'll always riot given the opportunity, bring him into the system and he won't. Thatcher's ultimate response to Brixton Toxteth BW Farm was to rein in the police (repeal of Sus, racial profiling of Police action etc) and to throw money at those disaffected communities. It worked. The rolling back of those efforts under Blair Brown (especially including many more police powers) has exposed the limits. The lack of current leadership has made the problem worse. What do you do? Try and make things better for everyone? Or not? Damian PS Mark - respect appreciated and returned whole heartedly - shame we're not down the pub ;) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Grayson O'Leary
Where does one start?;) Seriously though, the points about SG's acumen (or lack of it) in the transfer market makes me wonder that the problem is not buying a good player, but more having a team blueprint in the head and buying the right player for that blueprint. I'm probably not being very clear. Do we play 4-5-1 because it's SG's vision of how we should always play in the best of all worlds? Or is it because he feels it's the best system to suit the limited resources that we have. If it's the latter, then it makes buying a new player a nightmare. Your ultimate aim might be a 4-2-4 wonder team, but the players you buy to make that a reality are probably going to look crap in the interim 4-5-1 Damian On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: [] I'd love to hear what others think. Dr Michael Benjamin, ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] WHU
I was always under the impression his first name was Richard. Damian On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Errand Fivefold errand.fivef...@talk21.com wrote: Oh and before I goBig Sam is a complete and utter twat. IMHO. Verner ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Ipswich
You mean support another team? Damian On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.comwrote: Time to ditch them all. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] nonLU: bored?
14/15 in 5'54 Last one tripped me up too On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.ukwrote: 14 out of 15 ... In 4:47! On 15 Sep 2011, at 16:47, Steve Gillen steve.gil...@ntlworld.com wrote: ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] nonLU: bored?
Just checked my past O Level papers (AEB + London + Oxford Cambridge flash cards) from 76 - 78 Only Differential equation questions in the London exam board papers - and they were based on the formula resolution of a differential equation rather than knowing/ understanding either Liebnitz's or Newton's notations. I think knowstalgia ain't what it used to be ;) Damian PS Yes I know its a bit anal to have kept them On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:03 PM, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.ukwrote: Yes sir, sorry sir! Actually all this proved is that the current Oh exams are getting easier than in our day stance is bollox. But they are getting easier. I asked recently at a parent's night in my boy's high school when they start differentiation and calculus, they said at A level. In my O level maths days (1982) you learned both, and needed to understand them to get an O level. But I'm from Yorkshire, so actually only know about tripe and whippets. DRB ___ ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Eddie Says
And we were worried about not buying anyone during the summer... ;) Damian On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote: Interesting stat on the football league show - we have used more players than any other team in our division this year. Not good. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Pavilion on Tuesday night
I think our experiences go to show if you have the one, you end up with the other. Damian On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote: I don't think there is any debate. What amazes me is people think that it has to be one or the other. I ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.
From my optimistic perspective I have to believe that SG didn't want to give it a go.because he has bigger fish to fry. So don't push it lads, I don't want any injuries, any daft bookings and no sendings off. We've nothing to win as well as nothing to lose Onwards and upwards at Brighton anyone? Damian ;) On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.ukwrote: What really saddened me yesterday was this, 2 years ago we were a Legue 1 team and went to Old Trafford ancd really 'gave it a go', we were organised, lively and up for a scrap. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] The most depressing thing about last night......
For me, because of his poor buying decisions (irrespective of how much they cost us) and his poor man-management. We had a very large - but very lopsided - talent pool, that all of a sudden stopped performing and I for one think that O'Dreary is entirely responsible for that. Risdales' guilt is, in order: 1. Not sacking O'Dreary approx one year earlier than he did 2. Not having a real replacement lined up (and maybe that's why O'Dreary wasn't sacked earlier) 3. Poor financial management Damian On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:56 AM, markbu...@aol.com wrote: Leeds needed to get themselves on the rich side of that gap, and Ridsdale saw that and gambled. But O Leary scuppered the plan, and the rest is tragic history. Eh How is O'Leary to blame for Ridsdale's financial idiocy? He didn't agree the ludicrous salaries that bankrupted the club! Ridsdale (and Leighton) scuppered their own plan. Ridsdale gambled all right. He played russian roulette with six bulllets in his revolver. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Oktoberfest
I seem to remember a Burt Reynaulds film where he strapped like a hot water bottle to his leg (with connecting tubes) that allowed him 48h between toilet breaks ;) Damian On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Wayne ws.callag...@live.co.uk wrote: Off to Munich next week, and hope to get a few hours at the beerfest, hopefully on a couple of occasions, any tips from lister's on how best to get the most out of the experience, would be greatly appreciated. Regards Wayne ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] It's more important than that
I had to read this mail twice to assure myself that you weren't some callous bastid willing to put a little boy out of his misery because he wasn't fit to play football. A shame really because over the years we could have done with someone like that in the Elland Rd treatment room ;) Damian On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Sean Emmott s...@canofworms.me.uk wrote: Tonight I put a little lad to sleep who's wheezing and coughing away, but taking his evil tasting steroids to get better soon because he's so desperate to train and then play a match this weekend, even if he's only a substitute. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] TV court judgement
You're wrong in your head - sounds like the perfect opportunity to negociate the BJ option and a reduction in your TV bills at the same time, whilst only risking football on the telly! ;) Damian On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.comwrote: My girlfriend keeps trying to get me to do this but I am scared they'll call my bluff and I'll end up without the football. I spent 15 years of my life without the footy and now it's my rules I'm not giving it up. Guess I could just resubscribe I suppose. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Oct 2011, at 17:59, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I recently rang Sky to unsubscribe from Sky Sports. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Non LU: iPhone
I'm trying to remember what was written on the box (unfortunately it's no longer in the bin to be checked), but I think that's the new phone I got yesterday as well. If anyone can tell me of any amazing things it could do, then don't hesitate. Better still, if anyone can tell me where to find a version of Solitaire that will run on it I'd be very grateful. Cheers, Damian On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Matt Anderson m...@leeds-united.netwrote: However following some list advice I took delivery of a lovely new Samsung galaxy s2 about 25 mins ago so as Eric would say suck my b@lls blackberry and I will spend hours of boring time in a hotel room in Saudi Arabia next week comparing my personal iphone and the S2 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
Re: [LU] Pete Cass (1962-2011) RIP
What the...! I was obviously kidding myself thinking he was getting better! Betty - 5 quid for a trophy, no more. Pete worried more about the future of his family than any cup played for in a forgotten corner of Leeds. Cash for his wife, cash for his kids - thats what counts. How can we contribute? Damian On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote: The sad news about Pete comes after we were all breathing a sigh of relief when we heard that he was confident about his treatment in Boston. It really shook me when I read Vern's message this morning. Paul and others had also kindly been in touch, but it was the list that had alerted me to Pete's passing. Pete's acerbic style (you are talking shite Eric) his critique of our team based on his own involvement in the game (the Football Federation of Victoria will really miss him) and the way he fitted in with some of the more off topic discussions (Pete was a techie of the first order) mean that he will be sadly missed here as well as on a number of other Leeds United related internet sites. We can only try to imagine how devastated Pete's wife, Joy and the girls Maddie and Gemma are feeling. I'm sure they are in all our thoughts this morning. Other lists and message boards involved in WorldNET and the Internet Football mob have marked the passing of one of their number by having a trophy named after the person they have lost and presented at the annual event. I'll check with Pete's family and I'll talk to the other IFA organisers to suggest that the Leeds List would like to present a Trophy annually at WorldNET to commemorate Pete. It's the least we could do for the lad. Further down the road, Pete. Betty __**_ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.** uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslisthttp://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.**orgleedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
