Nothing changes when it is bottle-fed. (paragraph 1) That was tried with
no change.
I will try having them start it with the oil filler cap off. Maybe the
crankcase breather has gotten plugged up. (Paragraph 2)
Thanks Dr. Booth
Loren
At 09:28 PM 6/7/2006, you wrote:
Loren Faeth wrote:
well, email me privately to discuss. Seems I sent you a reponse to you
a while back but then never heard about about it.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What's it gonna take to make it be un-lonely on my property?
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:47:46 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
oh god
LT Don wrote:
Anyone need to photocopy my shelf full of vegetarian cookbooks?
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72
OK folks, been gitting a little lax in the foul language department.
Have been receiving complants so lets tone it back a bit. Thank you and
now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
85
On Jun 7, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Wow. Put me on your estate sale mailing list please? :) Though,
knowing my
luck, that'll be years after I've aquired most of the same
toolsI'm
nearly there with the addition of Grandpa's 2 houses worth of
tools
Luther
At
Here in Washington State I find the summers are quite mild
and A/C is kind of superfluous.
There's a fair climatic variation around this state. Nothing we
had on the wet side had AC when I was growing up, and you really
didn't miss it. Here on the dry side, it gets a bit hot. (But
never all
On Jun 7, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I'm close, missing the lathe and press. (I have a wood lathe
though.) No forge/foundry, so I'm messed up there too. It
would be nice to have a good mill, maybe someday. It's really
nice to know that you can _make_ what you need, if you can't
On Jun 7, 2006, at 6:51 PM, wilton strickland wrote:
Yes Johnny, It's all good. I understand. 'Just thought an
absolutely
static start was really neat and indicates well-tuned engine. 'Not
complaining.
Wilton
I think its cool too. Makes you proud of your maintenance regimen.
It
On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Still toying with the idea of building my own splitter for
the Mog's killer auxiliary hydraulic system. Turns out that
there is no used hydraulic cylinder market, people either fix
'em forever or throw away the unrepairable ones and replace
them.
Johnny B...
My theory is HOT is HOT whatever we can take is what we do,
when we have to do what we have to do!
Dry Heat is just a PR line. I grew up outside Washington DC w/o AC
and slept in the glider (if anybody knows what that is?) on the
front screened porch. Just plain
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:33:00 -0400 John Berryman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 7, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
The full faith
and credit clause of the US Constitution is your defense here, and
good luck to you with that!
I wasn't aware of such a clause. Can you
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:43:45 -0400 John Berryman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My gear wrench set is all Taiwan but it is holding up real well. I
was pleasantly surprised as Taiwan was analogous to junk in the not
too distant past.
Just like Japan was analogous to junk in the late '50s...
On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:53 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
Putting yourself in traction daily isn't mentioned anywhere in the
list of
things to do to take it easy.
But, if it works for you and it makes you able to accomplish all those
things, then good for you Johnny B.
Bob Rentfro
I don't ned it
On Jun 7, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
If you're serious about a lift really check your height. I built
my lower garage at 10' so that I'd have plenty of room for a lift.
Turns out I don't, I'd need more like 11' in order not to be limited
in what kind of lift I could have.
-- Jim
sell the car from PDX. The prices
there are insane
It's definitely a seller's market for MB diesels out here in Portland. I'm
thinking about making the '81 300CD look nice and put it up for sale once I
get around to sorting out the GP system just because the market is so good
right now. VW
On Jun 7, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:
So, Johnny, how is that for an opening shot? Yours is a good one too.
Grumpy ol man (got the manual ice auger to prove it) ; )
Right on.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Jun 7, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:
Got a question guys!
How did it run before left idling for the AC work? Is linkage moving
freely? Is the compressor seizing up?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Weather is weather and we make too much about it and a whole lot of other
stuff that is just gonna' happen whether we like it or notOff the
soapbox..!
Chuck Phoenix AZ
Uhhh, yeah, Chuck. I saw yesterday's Phoenix sand storm on TV last night.
Weather, indeed. Come to think of it, it
What I appreciate the most about dry heat is the fact that all I need
to cool our place is an evaporator cooler for pennies a day instead of
$ per hour if I had to use the A.C. Other day it was 114 and never had
to use AC. Now, when we get the monsoons in August and humidity goes
over 40%, the
My gear wrench set is all Taiwan but it is holding up real well. I
was pleasantly surprised as Taiwan was analogous to junk in the not
too distant past.
Just like Japan was analogous to junk in the late '50s...
The big difference between then and now is that Japan had the
Jim Cathey wrote:
Turns out that there is no used hydraulic cylinder market, people either fix
'em forever or throw away the unrepairable ones and replace them.
I've seen old useable ones at farm auctions here in Michigan, but I haven't been
to one in recent years.
Mitch
I started to think that's high, but not really high. Then I saw the
salvage title :^(
Gary Thompson
1995 E320
On 6/6/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It had not run since bambi put a hole in the radiator in Nov. It started
and ran fine after the new radiator and condenser were installed. After
they finished charging the AC is when they noticed it didn't want to run
more than 1000 rpm, then it got worse until it will now only start and run
On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:04 AM, Gary Thompson wrote:
I started to think that's high, but not really high. Then I saw the
salvage title :^(
Gary Thompson
High? If it really has 127,000, $3500 is real fair. Although, as
usual the auction is not near over. Why do salvage titles scare
Didnt know people still used those things. We called them water coolers
here. I remember when I was a kit many folks used to use those things
before they had AC, in fact, we used to use one as well.
Desert Rat wrote:
What I appreciate the most about dry heat is the fact that all I need
to
Okay, now you have me interested but confused.
Is this a dehumidifier you're talking about?
Mac
on 6/8/06 10:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Didnt know people still used those things. We called them water coolers
here. I remember when I was a kit many folks used to use
Didnt know people still used those things. We called them water
coolers
Or swamp coolers.
-- Jim
600 ? splain please
The Grosser Benz. The one for which parts are largely
unique to the car and highly expensive. The one with
hydraulic _everything_. The one for which the 6.3 and
6.9 motors was created. The Waterloo of many a Benz
owner. Shall I go on?
-- Jim
No, basically its sort of like an AC, sort of. They have different
sizes of them ranging from little table top ones to bigger ones that sit
outside the window with the air vent sticking in the windows blowing in.
You basically fill the pan up with water and it pumps the water up to
the top
Who sells them?
Now that you mention it, I have heard my mom talk about this from way back,
but never understood what she meant. I have central AC but dislike it, so
I'm very interested in this.
Mac
on 6/8/06 11:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, basically its sort of
Trying to identify location of Aux Cooling fan temperature switch
ETM on page 202 lists location as On water outlet my car has 3 switches /
senders at this location (outlet / thermostat housing)
ETM diagram on page 129/1 lists switch operating temperature at 100C is this
correct? No known
Who sells them [swamp coolers]?
Around here, the same places (hardware and home improvement stores)
that sell room AC units.
-- Jim
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change that increased the
HP? Are the shortblocks identical? TIA all.
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82 300D (74kmi needs block
In light of the fact that I will be building soon, I am looking to
swap a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo for a Toyota 4x4 compact pick-
up. Prefer 5spd 4cyl doesn't need to be perfect but no rot-boxes.
The Jeep has 150,000mi, Amsoil, auto, new ball-joints, brakes, Water
pump, thermostat,
There are still lots of swamp coolers around here in AZ. New ones
are available.Mostly used for replacement .. Newer homes (last
15 years) only have A/C...
Most they are roof mounted and bring in dry air, pass it through a
waterfall and distribute the humidified air throughout the
Well the have quite a selection of them at our local farm and ranch
store. Would think a similar place up by you would sell them.
http://www.atwoods.com/storage/weeklySpecials/69/06-07-06back.gif
Steve MacSween wrote:
Who sells them?
Now that you mention it, I have heard my mom talk about
Actually not sure where your figures come from but its 110 for the 116
version and 120 for the 123/126 81-84 and either 123 or 125 for the 85
version.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change
On Jun 8, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change that
increased the
HP? Are the shortblocks identical? TIA all.
For one the cams are different and possible upper oil
Mac,
Try this link for more info:
http://www.sahra.arizona.edu/programs/water_cons/home/cooler.htm
Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
Steve MacSween wrote:
Who sells them?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change that increased the
HP? Are the shortblocks identical? TIA all.
In addition to what has already been mentioned, the w116 300SDs used the earlier
The turbos are interchangable from the older engines to the newer ones.
As far as I can tell, they are identical.
John Ervine wrote:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change that increased the
Another $0.02, would be that the w116s (exception: some 1980s that
apparently delivered with w126 motor setups, or maybe it was only CA-spec
cars) have different plumbing for the vacuum pump. IIRC we had some fun with
this on my w126-w116 swap, in addition to what Berryman mentioned.
Also the oil
Here are the differences, which I mentioned before, linkage, oil pan, ac
stuff, glow plug system, wiring, vacuum pump etc, motor mount arms,
exhaust hookup might be different, not sure. Then the hp is lower.
Thats all I can think of at the moment. Tranny is different of course.
Oil cooler
I agree - both turbos spin up until the wastegate is open.
Could be cam, IP or compression ratio changes.
Tom Hargrave
Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The turbos are interchangable from the older engines to the newer ones.
As far as I can tell, they are identical.
John
Ok, the cam, oil pan, turbo, obvious mountings onto the engine are
different. Can accessories from the .951/2 mount up to the .950?
John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the
Ok, so if the displacement is the same, what caused the 10HP increase
from .950 to .951/2?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Here are the differences, which I mentioned before, linkage, oil pan, ac
stuff, glow plug system, wiring, vacuum pump etc, motor mount arms,
exhaust hookup
FWIW
My 1980 300SD (MY '80, Build date 10/79) has a Garrett Turbo
(original equip) still running strong.
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Jun 8, 2006, at 8:55 AM, John Ervine wrote:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the
I had read previously this was not the case, but yes a friend of mine just
put a w116 turbo onto his w126 and it was a complete walk in the park.
Mac
on 6/8/06 12:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The turbos are interchangable from the older engines to the newer ones.
As
Ok, so I've sealed the baffle on the valve cover, swapped the air cleaner
housing from the '82 300D into the CD, and changed the oil cooler lines.
It's still burning oil and smoking but not leaking more than 2-3 small drops
on my parking spot. The turbo intake is dry and free of oil now.
That's right...I use evap in the house up to the point the humidity is
hanging out around 30% or so...or the dew point approaches 50 degrees. I was
getting a 40 degre delta temp the other day (116 outside, 76 inside) until
the moisture blew in right ahead of the dust storm.
Bob Rentfro
Cam, ip is setup a little different, probably emissions maybe.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Ok, so if the displacement is the same, what caused the 10HP increase
from .950 to .951/2?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Here are the differences, which I mentioned before, linkage, oil pan,
The part numbers are the same, I have pulled many off 116 engines and
put them on 123/126 versions. In fact, I once replaced a KKK version in
a 84 300SD with a garrett from a 116 for a customer, then turned around
and sold their bad one on ebay for $80. It was insane.
Steve MacSween wrote:
its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Ok, so I've sealed the baffle on the valve cover, swapped the air cleaner
housing from the '82 300D into the CD, and changed the oil cooler lines.
It's still
Woah, almost said something that would only be appropriate on the Banned
list...
On 6/8/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
your whole back end would be covered with oil.
Your turbo could still be leaking into the intake, bad oil rings, or bad
valve guide seals. Also check and make sure air cleaner has not got dead cat
in it. Clogged air intake system could cause excessive oil consumption.
Trampas
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Mitch Haley wrote:
Jim Cathey wrote:
Turns out that there is no used hydraulic cylinder market, people either fix
'em forever or throw away the unrepairable ones and replace them.
I've seen old useable ones at farm auctions here in Michigan, but I haven't been
to one in recent years.
I also put my hand over the breather hole and
held it there for more than 20 seconds with out it dying.
Seems to me that a 617 MUST die eventually when doing this,
or there is some other vapor leak from the crankcase. (Maybe
the oil separator drain pipe?)
-- Jim
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change that increased the
HP? Are the shortblocks identical? TIA all.
Depends on who's measuring them and whether it's a DIN or SAE
measurement. Mercedes
Loren Faeth wrote:
It had not run since bambi put a hole in the radiator in Nov. It started
and ran fine after the new radiator and condenser were installed. After
they finished charging the AC is when they noticed it didn't want to run
more than 1000 rpm, then it got worse until it will now
Johnny,
Here is one not to far away from you - needs some work and not 4x4 though.
Dave W
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Toyota-Tacoma-Passenger-side-Damage-2WD_W0QQitemZ4646255678QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6439QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
In light of the fact that I will be building soon, I am looking
John Ervine wrote:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
617.950 is listed at 115HP and the .951/2 are 123/125HP. If
stroke/displacement are the same, what did they change that increased the
HP? Are the shortblocks identical? TIA all.
In addition to what has already been mentioned, the w116 300SDs used
Turns out that there is no used hydraulic cylinder market, people
either
fix 'em forever or throw away the unrepairable ones and replace them.
I thought I saw some at Boeing Surplus the other day, but I wouldn't
swear by it.
I overstated the case, but I was contacting local hydraulic
If anyone responded to my email question about 126 wheels, I didn't get
it. My digests skipped from Vol. 7 Issue 34 and then the next one I got
was Vol. 7 issue 39.
Donald H. Snook
1990 300SEL 127K
So the turbo wouldn't blow oil into the intake?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82
didnt you say there was no oil in the intake?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
So the turbo wouldn't blow oil into the intake?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
--
Kaleb C.
Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345, 5-360 before I swapped
the carboned up injectors out. I tried to check last weekend, but my
compression tester lost an o-ring and won't seal and I'm waiting on the
part. I'm fairly certain that the air intake is free and open.
Don't bad
What should happen when I plug the breather?
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I also put my hand over the breather hole and
held it there for more than 20 seconds with out it dying.
Seems to me that a 617 MUST die eventually when doing this,
or there is some other vapor leak from the
intake from the air cleaner to the turbo, yes. Actual intake from the turbo
to the head, I haven't opened that up. Should I check there?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
didnt you say there was no oil in the intake?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
So the turbo wouldn't blow oil
Sounds like bad turbo seal, blowing oil in intake. Note that intake may look
clean as the oil will wash it clean and oil will to stick to inside for long
before it consumed.
Trampas
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent:
probably, if you suspect it I would pull the turbo and see.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
intake from the air cleaner to the turbo, yes. Actual intake from the turbo
to the head, I haven't opened that up. Should I check there?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
didnt you say there was
Well if you think about it, the turbo sucks air from air cleaner and blows
it into the intake. Thus if it leaked oil it would be blown into intake, not
air cleaner.
I would bet money the turbo seal is bad. I know that Kaleb will sell you a
bad one for $80, I bet the good ones might be cheaper..
they usually sell for around 150 or so for good ones.
Trampas wrote:
Well if you think about it, the turbo sucks air from air cleaner and blows
it into the intake. Thus if it leaked oil it would be blown into intake, not
air cleaner.
I would bet money the turbo seal is bad. I know that
WHAT?
I don't think generators came on as standard equipment until the styled
tractors in '39 and you could still order a magneto ignition (starter delete)
until the Supers came out in '52.
This was an F12, '35 IIRC, my great uncle used it to mow around the house
with a 5' bellymower.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345, 5-360 before I swapped
the carboned up injectors out. I tried to check last weekend, but my
compression tester lost an o-ring and won't seal and I'm waiting on the
part. I'm fairly certain that the air intake is
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What should happen when I plug the breather?
The engine should stop in 5-15 seconds- UNLESS there's a leak and
pressure in the sump and valve cover area can escape. That pressurizes
the shutoff diaphragm on the other side from where vacuum is applied to
shut it off.
What should happen when I plug the breather?
The engine should labor and die as crankcase pressure
builds up. Due to the particular construction of the 617,
the shutoff diaphragm gets pushed on just as if you put a
vacuum on its other side. (All pressure is relative.)
It is used as a
Fuel economy is better than 25 and most of the time 27-29 running on pure
diesel. I haven't timed 0-60, but it will easily out run my SD or my parents
300D.
Luther
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345,
What's the best way to track down a leak like this?
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What should happen when I plug the breather?
The engine should stop in 5-15 seconds- UNLESS there's a leak and
pressure in the sump and valve cover area can escape. That
Oh we're still a little looney here, we're just smart enough to keep it under
control :)
Harry
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL 108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata
-Original Message-
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List
on 6/7/06 5:45 PM, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know of place to get either of these wheels
for my 126 (besides Tire Rack). I would like to find used Mercedes
wheels for a reasonable price, rather than buying the aftermarket
wheels.
Try Ongager Corporation
I replied to you, Donald. I've resent my reply, separately.
Mac
on 6/8/06 1:56 PM, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If anyone responded to my email question about 126 wheels, I didn't get
it. My digests skipped from Vol. 7 Issue 34 and then the next one I got
was Vol. 7 issue 39.
Swap turbo with spare car, if problem goes away then it is turbo.
Trampas
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil
I was talking about the breather/valve cover pressure.
Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Swap turbo with spare car, if problem goes away then it is turbo.
Trampas
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Fuel economy is better than 25 and most of the time 27-29 running on pure
diesel. I haven't timed 0-60, but it will easily out run my SD or my parents
300D.
Unlikely to be the timer then. This may actually be one of those times
when it really IS the turbo oil seals
I am.
--R
Bob Rentfro wrote:
It appears we're not as looney as our spouses sometimes think.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What's the best way to track down a leak like this?
Since I never use blocking the vent to test the engine, I never discover
such leaks - and if I don't know about them, the engine runs fine and is
not consuming oil or fuel at an alarming rate, I'm sure not going to
Hello,
I have a 87 300SDL, I'm wondering what might cause the number 5 fuse to blow
when I
put the car in reverse, it only blows then,
I can start the car in neutral and select drive and its ok.
I can tell this because the A/C- blower stays running.
The fuse designation chart lists fuse #5,
I have a 87 300SDL, I'm wondering what might cause the number 5 fuse
to blow when I put the car in reverse, it only blows then,
I can start the car in neutral and select drive and its ok.
Shorted backup light bulb.
Bad neutral safety switch (on tranny).
I also have another problem that my
Hi,All.
(Mass) Want Ad reads:- 1982 MERCEDES 300CD. Reliable transportation.
$1500. Sterling. cell 978-821-3242.
I'm going to be in the vicinity tomorrow afternoon if anyone is interested.
No affiliiation etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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