EF: A long transit strike is NOT a winning strategy . . . Soon a choice
will have to be made between escalation and surrender . . . Escalation
would mean sympathy strikes, wildcats, disruption of traffic, maybe even
a general strike. Most of this would be illegal.
PS: Thank you for a most
List members: Are there any drop off sites left in south Minneapolis for
recylable plastic bags? Uptown Cleaners and Rainbow used to collect
them, but not now. I'd like to find out before I move to St. Paul next
week.---Peter Schmitz CARAG
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More fallout from the bus strike:
Yesterday, for the weekly mental health group I facilitate at the drop-in
center where I work, participation was about half of what it usually is
with eight clients attending. During check-in, all but one participant
mentioned how stressful the bus strike been.
Listmembers: I'm getting rid of stacks of magazines before I move, New
Yorker, Harpers, The Nation and Ad Busters mostly. All free of
charge. Let me know if you're interested. --Peter Schmitz CARAG
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I agree with Margaret Hastings that Natalie Johnson Lee would make an
excellent candidate for Mayor. While I don't agree with every vote she
casts, I think she has the interests of all citizens at heart, wheras our
current Mayor is more eager to please Allina. Lisa McDonald, though
considrably
Rybak's sharpest critics are on the left fringe, where he's vilified as
a traitor to the progressive cause. HE HAS QUESTIONED WHO THE CITY'S
NOISIEST BLACK ACTIVISTS REALLY REPRESENT . . .
Has Rybak or The Johannesburg Times ever bothered to identify THE CITY'S
NOISIEST WHITE ACTIVISTS and
Eva Young: That statement by Rybak was total nonsense - and quite
different that Rybak the candidate who ran on bringing fresh air to
city hall. A vote against the proposal didn't mean council members
wanted Allina out of the city, it just meant they felt the proposal
wasn't in the best
RB: Since the installation of the system, I have not gone downtown
without making an attempt to conceal my appearance. I dont think the
screen-watchers are particularly interested in me (Im boringly
law-abiding), Im just trying to protect my public anonymity to the best
of my ability. In
Liz McLemore: : Dean Zimmerman announced yesterday at the Fifth District
Green Party meeting that he is indeed planning to vote FOR the I-35W
Access Project. (I was there.) This project does NOT include PRT: in
fact, it may take us far afield of transportation alternatives like PRT,
since it
Jan Del Calzo: Where is the collective will among our leaders -
including political, religious and civic - to deal with a real life and
death situation? We have bitterly cold weather and not enough room for
the homeless. Yet every church has a basement that could be opened to
shelter people?
Great post, Paul.
Does anyone out there know how often the city negotiates its contract
with the Police Federation?
Sounds like it's going to take a heck of a lot more than good intentions
on the part of our elected officials and new Police Chief in order to
reign in the thumpers. But it
TN: Schiff started talking about how the Mayor was creating the
impression that police were out of control. Well, if you're a person of
color, or economically disadvantaged, then yes, the police are out of
control and you're not going to trust an insider.
PS: Ever since council member Gary
Now that we know Mayor Rybak can respond positively to public pressure
from concerned citizens (e.g., the police chief appointment and
discontinuing the shameful practice of counting shelter beds as
affordable housing), lets put the pressure on him regarding no public
subsidies for sports
I'd like to recommend Kafe 421, International Cuisine served in
Dinkytown, , 421 14th Avenuegreat food, attentive service and a most
mellow atmosphere. It's without a doubt the best new Minneapolis
restaurant to open in in 2003, although JP's, next door to the Jungle
Theatre near Lake and
Mark Anderson and Eva Young are wrong to suggest that police brutality,
or thumperism, has gone down during Olson's tenure. REPORTS of brutality
have certainly gone down, but that's only because with a gutted Citizen
Review Authority that's only recently been resuscitated, a civilian
abused by
DS: . . . thanks to our Republican Governor's and State House's tax
cuts for the wealthy our police force is still over 100 officers short.
PS: If the gunshots had been fired in Linden Hills, Kenwood, East
Harriet, or Sam and Sylvia Kaplan's condo complex, instead of Ventura
Village, I
GR: Police response times are not simply based on the number of cops
employed or the number of 911 calls. Some delays might be a result of
the manner in which police officers are deployed. Take staff scheduling
for an example. In theory, management bases staffing upon anticipated
need and/or
EF: Appointing an African-American chief would have the effect of
weakening the anti-police brutality movement
because an African-American chief would be much harder to criticize.
PS: There's some truth in what you say, Ed. A few years ago, when some
corporatists (centrist democrats of the
Jonathan,
Sounds like you have a plan and can easily implement it without Ms.
Hastings' assistance. Don't wait for her or anyone else, for heaven's
sake! Go for it!!! I'll be cheering you on all the way.
Please keep in mind, that there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Serious social
Thank you, Wizard, Barb and Andy for the holiday messages. And I'd like
to extend my holiday greetings and best wishes to all on this list as
well, especially to my sparring partners (you all know who you are), I've
learned a lot from you and have the deepest respect for your
EY: Peter, I asked you to demonstrate how Sharon Lubinski was a racist -
since you implied it in your post on this subject. Instead you ask me
to prove she isn't a racist. So my challenge still stands - please give
some examples of how Lubinski has treated minority residents poorly? If
Rybak
DS: in best humor from Hawthorne,
Dyna Sluyter
PS: My post was way funnier than your post !!
Happy Holidays!Peter
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Carol Becker: And as for the debate about identity politics, I will say
that women think differently, manage differently, and relate
differently. These are scientific facts. In the movie 28 Days, there is
a quote, The definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over
and over again
WM: But in the end, we still got another straight, white male. Ho and
then hum. I'm not impressed. This guy does not necessarily ever think
outside his privilege. There appears to be no reason for him to do so,
since his privilege has stood him in good stead, advanced his career,
etc. No matter
Eva Young: Rybak should be pretty pleased with the Strib lately - since
they've been doing nothing but Puff pieces on his choice for Chief.
Peter Schmitz: One of the puff pieces on Rybak's choice that appeared
in the Strib yesterday was written by Rochelle Olson, the same journalist
who did
According to today's Star Tribune, Mayor Rybak's choice for police
chief, William McManus, has across-the-board support among leaders from
minority communities in Minneapolis. Needless to say, the Police
Federation is not as enthusiastic.
Natalie Johnson Lee and Don Samuels (our only two
Eva Young: Today's Strib says the minority communities are supportive of
the McManus choice - though most of the supporters were members of the
African American Community - Spike Moss and others. What's interesting
is that it seems that there weren't any prominent members of the GLBT
community
Mayor Rybak: In one of the posts I read today someone asked about chief
candidates and the patriot act. I told all five finalists that
Minneapolis is a city that protects free speech, I have opposed the
Patriot Act, have marched in anti war protests and Chief Olson and I have
met with hundreds
WM: We would not be hiring either Gerold or Lubinski just because she's
a woman, but because, as women, they have a different perspective, one
that cannot be gained easily as a male, if at all. Lubinski,
particularly, has a different perspective as a member of a minority
group. They have a
While I believe I've been the Mayor's fiercest critic on this list and
will continue to be so, I back him on his choice for Police Chief.
Given the problems of brutality and racism among the rank and file of our
police force it's imperative that we hire and outsider. Besides, didn't
Lucy Gerold
Thank you, David Brauer, for a fresh perspective on the homeless issue.
Of course, you and Mark Snyder are right, we must hold to the fire the
feet our County Board members. There's a chance I may be moving to NE
Minneapolis in 2005. If I do, I''ll really start putting the pressure on
Mark
To address some of Jonathan Palmer's questions.
What do those without homes and their advocates want.?
1) Clean, safe and affordable housing
2) Jobs
3) Treatment for medical, mental health, dental and chemical dependency
problems
4) Three square meals
Given that our local, state and federal
Mark Wilde says: I heard loud and clear what you want people in positions
of authority to do for the homeless, but nowhere did you say what you
want the homeless to do to help themselves. You want the government to
provide jobs for all these people, as well as three meals a day and clean
Margaret Hastings Reports: In fairness to Erik, he did post to me, but
only to say that it is MNDOT that is putting in the bridge rods. (I
already knew that) have my interview with MNDOT on film. Since that
was not the point of my post to him.. I responded that he had not
answered my
Margaret Hastings Reports: I got an off post comment that David Feldman
no longer is with the mayor's
office and the poster assumed I must have tried to contact him after he
left. So, to avoid the issue getting lost in this sort of side issue: My
e-mails to David Feldman were when he was in the
Margaret Hastings Reports: I got an off post comment that David Feldman
no longer is with the mayor's office and the poster assumed I must have
tried to contact him after he left. So, to avoid the issue getting lost
in this sort of side issue: My e-mails to David Feldman were when he was
in the
First of all my apologies to Mayor Rybak for wrongfully accusing him of
initiating the practice of counting shelter beds and mats as affordable
housing. Thank you, Mayor Rybak, for changing this practice.
Secondly, my most heartfelt congratulations to Scott Russell and Skyway
News for coming out
I just got back from San Francisco and New York City and feel that
Minneapolis can learn from both cities.
In San Francisco where there's a tight race for mayor. The moderate
republocrat Gavin Newsom, is having to relent on some of his more
Draconian positions related to homelessness.
Perhaps R.T. Rybak is on a journey similar to Norm Coleman's. Don't be
surprised if he seeks the Republican nomination for the Senate when Mark
Dayton's current term expires in '06.
Whatever the case, this is another slap in the face to homeless people
delievered by our current mayor. Even his
Carol Becker says: For folks who don't know, the library system is going
through an extremely painful process of laying off about 25% of its
staff, a much greater retrenchment than any of the other municipal
services that have had to reduce staff. So this trend is not going in
the way that we
Will Ken run as a DFLer, Independent, Green, Republican or . . .?
He certainly sounds like someone I could support.
Can he build a deep and broad enough coalition that includes the homeless
community, environmentalists, communities of color, the mental health
community, library activists, as
Eric Oines writes:
You are all missing the point. White people defining Black leadership
is stupid, just as Black people defining white leadership is stupid. I
think what Booker T is saying, if I may, is that this whole Black
leadership thing ends up being a way to pidgeon-hole people of color
I just learned from the Southwest Journal that Mayor Rybak will be the
guest speaker for St John The Baptist Episcopal Church, next Sunday,
October 26, 9 and 11am. Topic: The Role of Faith in Public Life.
Mayor Rybak better be careful, otherwise his buddies, Doug Grow and
Councilmember Don
Doug Grow reveals his skewed perceptions regarding community leadership.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4161414.html
Once again the The Johannesburg Times' token liberal columnist instructs
us on the differences between a good knee-grow (City Council Member Don
Samuels) and a bad
Doug Grow writes a good piece about the Parkway Theatre today (that
almost makes me forgive him for the egregious tripe he wrote last week
regarding the NAACP).
Alas, this neighborhood theatre may be the victim of market forces and
indifference from City Hall as well as its own neighborhood.
Victoria, You asks some very good questions and I don't claim to have
any of the answers. I can only speculate that given the current
recession operating a restaurant these days is a very courageous and
risky undertaking. In fact, other restaurant owners have told me they're
barely getting by,
Thank you, Doug Grow, for separating the good Negroes from the bad
Negroes.---Peter Schmitz CARAG
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Michelle Gross says: Thank you, Susan Maricle, for setting up the
gathering at Lucille's Kitchen today. I stopped by to get takeout and
just to meet folks. The food was terrific and the company was even
better. The fact that Susan drove all the way from Bruno, MN to be
there makes her
I agree with David. While I disagree with Wizard Marks more often than
not, I have every reason to believe that she'd be an excellent addition
to the library board. The first comments on this thread posted about her
were every bit as unfair as Ms. Mark's comments about former
councilmember
Dyna says: On the other side of town 3 innocent lives were needlessly
lost in a tenement fire this weekend. The landlord has a long and
troubled history of housing code violations. But said landlord still has
rental licenses granted by our not so fair city.
Peter responds: When R.T. Rybak
Terrell Brown says: I think there is often a difference between a code
violation and unsafe conditions. Take Dyna's peeling paint. Now I
haven't personally inspected Dyna's peeling paint, but I have seen
peeling paint that isn't really a hazard. Peeling paint may not be
pleasing to the eyes
David Brauer writes:
My point was that I listen to those who been in the system, rather than
those motivated by ideological axe-grinding but not first-hand MPS
experience. Given they have been there as front-liners, teachers should
certainly be listened to.
Peter Schmitz responds: Thank you,
The New Police Chief: After reading about John Ashcroft's visit to
Minneapolis yesterday (attended by Robert Olson, our current Police
Chief), I feel that Mayor Rybak and his screening committee ought to ask
each candidate whether they support Patriot Acts I and II.
Voting Patterns: Wizard, I
David Shove says: I think ALL the Mpls cops should be required to live
in Mpls as a condition of employment by Mpls. If they want to live in
Edina, let them cop in Edina. Why pay to be colonized by absentee-living
cops? No residence, no job.
Peter Schmitz responds: I agree, but as long as cops
With all do respenct: Big deal At least Rochelle Olson didn't
write the article.Peter Schmitz CARAG
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Barb Lickness says: I still ask just who was it that called Rochelle
Olson in the first place on this story? I highly doubt it was the police
officer or the innocent bystander so that leaves ...? I don't think
Rochelle was sitting in city hall waitin for the days list of traffic
tickets to
Both Wizard and Michelle have made a good case for their position.
I, myself, am not going to say hire from the inside or hire from the
outside, though, given the city's current serious budget crunch, the
Mayor may have at least a little explaining to do if he ends up hiring
someone from the
I believe Tamir and Carly both have good points. Again, I'm not a
parent, but I am a product of both parochial and public schooling.
First of all, Minneapolis teachers, like any other working folks, have a
right to decent, safe and comfortable working conditions, just as their
students have a
Jim Mork says:
Crack:NOT The Problem Last year, the DEA seized more pounds of meth than
either cocaine or marijuana here. And the worst thing about these
private homes with meth-labls is that once they shut DOWN the meth-lab,
they have to get special environmental cleanup to make the home
Perhaps Doug Mann or Barb Lickness can enlighten me since I'm not a
parent.
Do Minneapolis public schools allow pop and candy machines in their
buildings in order to increase revenues? I've also read about high fat
foods like pizza and freedom fries being sold at extra cost in school
cafeterias.
It was not my purpose to start a discussion about presidential politics,
but to call attention to how our LOCAL MINNEAPOLIS newspaper covers the
news, both local (i.e., Councilmember Johnson Lee's traffic citation
which was actually non-news) and national (why our LOCAL MINNEAPOLIS
paper chooses
Is the Startribune still the Johannesburg Times?
Yes.
In addition the August 16th story regarding Natalie Lee Johnson's traffic
citation, which appeared on the front page of the Metro Section while an
article about alleged evidence tampering by the City Attorney's office
appeared two pages later
Jim Bernstein writes: YES, Mosley Braun, Sharpton and Kucinich do have
much, much less name
recognition than Edwards, Dean, and Kerrey in national polls! Moreover,
they have never been more than either an asterisk or 1% in any
national poll. Even in their home states, the candidacies of
David Brauer says: Vicki Heller, in her genuine grief, declares that
because cops (you know, the force that's been trimmed despite rising
crime) won't return her calls,'black on black' crime doesn't matter
much in Minneapolis. Others quickly chime in that she is correct,
without bringing any
List members. check out today's City Pages. There's an excellent article
by G.R. Anderson regarding Councilmembers Don Samuels and Natalie Johnson
Lee.
Regarding double standards: As long as police operations in Minneapolis
are based on the military occupation model (which is inevitable given
Thank you, Victoria, for the excellent epigram from GBS, as well as the
update regarding your friend and caretaker.
Victoria's distinct impression regarding black on black crime, I'm sorry
to say, is correct.
Our indifference to the attack on her friend reminds me of some gentle
and
Though I've been critical of Mayor Rybak myself, and will continue to
hold his feet to the fire, I must say I agree with Terrell Brown 100% on
this one. Airport noise was one of the issues the brought down the
previous Mayor, and at least this one is doing a halfway decent job of
keeping one of
Jim Mork correctly asserts that people often resort to accusations of PC
when their debating skills are challenged.
People also resort to non sequiturs. Consider Wizard Mark's posting
yesterday in regard to my concerns about Senator Linda Berglin:
Peter: Yes, Senator Berglin has done a lot of
Jim states: Yes, Peter should look at real work and compare Linda to
ANYONE! Health care, Senior Care, Affordable Housing, Environment, I
know of NO ONE who hasdone more for poor people.
Peter responds: Yes, Senator Berglin has done a lot of good work on
behalf of seniors, poor people and
David Brauer says: Let the discussion continue!
Peter Schmitz responds: You bet
First of all, anyone who knows Margaret Hastings appreciates her
aggressive activism on behalf of homeless people as well as her
hard-earned cynicism. Activists have as much right to be aggressive and
cynical
Jim Graham says: Linda Berglin is one of the most prominent LIBERAL
politicians in the State of Minnesota. Linda has told me that she feels
we need to put more of the criminal predators in prison, and if necessary
keep them there. She said it is cheaper in taxpayer dollars to do so.
Even if you
M.G. Stinnett responds to Thomas T. Thai regarding sending offenders to
the miliarly:
Please, no. Once upon a time it was customary for a judge to offer a
'troubled youth a choice: jail time or military service. And, it did
work for a lot of young men--but times have changed and so has the nature
David Brauer says: I was only referring to Wizard's notion that the Strib
had overplayed this story, and make the point that interesting things
rank high in public attention, not just important things.
Peter Schmitz responds: David, correct me if I'm wrong, but as a
professional journalist
Since people on this list are already familiar with my opinions regarding
the Minneapolis Police, I won't comment about them for this particular
thread. At this point we ought to be questioning the ethics of the Star
Tribune and its reporter, Rochelle Olson.
Back when R.T. Rybak was a candidate
David Brauer says: To the criticism that the Strib is making a mountain
out of a molehill... this list has spent countless bytes debating unisex
bathrooms. 'Nuff said.
Peter responds: Inane threads on this list (and I, myself, had nothing
to say about the unisex bathrooms) do not justify
According to today's Star Tribune article, Cabbies Call For City's
Help, the president of the cabdrivers association asked city leaders to
subsidize surveillance cameras for taxi cabs. Mayor Rybak evidently
responded that public money wouldn't be provided for private businesses.
PLEASE correct
Terrell writes: The cab drivers are independent business people, they own
and lease their cabs. I don't think the city should be in the business
of providing subsidies to businesses. Tragic as it is, we occasionally
see
someone murdered while at work. Do we send subsidies to every type of
Mark Snyder: I've found I usually get answers to my questions for either
the Mayor or my CM by asking them directly (politely helps too) and not
by trying to shame them through a public forum.
Peter Schmitz: On July 15 David Brauer, in a most polite and non-shaming
manner, posed four
Jim Graham wrote: Both Ed Felien and Peter McLaughlin were not shy about
writing to the List when they ran for office. They answered
personally when they felt slighted while running against each other, so I
expect them to each answer personally what many might consider slanderous
charges.
Margaret Hastings says: So, along with waiting for a response about the
CEPD appointments, I continue to wait for a response [from Mayor Rybak]
on the above issue. [criminalization of homelessness]
Peter Schmitz suggests: How about writing a great big check either to
the Mayor himself or the DFL
MJ, If you should have another run in with the Minneapolis Police tell
them you have an aunt, sister, brother or whatever working in Mayor
Rybak's office. Maybe that'll stop them.
What's happining in the West Bank really concerns me because if I don't
get off work in the Seward neighborhood
Last fall, a resident of one of the West Bank high rises, for folks
living on fixed or low incomes, told me that he was mugged in front of
his building in the middle of the afternoon. When he called the police
one officer spent all of two or three minutes with him, despite the fact
that he was
Margaret Hastings asks: Again, Mayor Rybak...do you have a response to
this expensive effort to keep pushing people who are homeless away from
the only refuge they can sometimes find?
Karen Collier responds: Why should he. This is a state issue and paid
with state funds. I'm sure they're
Mark Wilde responds to Peter Schmitz's posting from last night:: You may
not like his policies, or his methods. But there is no way you can argue
that he does not care. The Mayor doesn't need me to defend him, but I
will point out one thing that he does well: Get people excited about the
arts.
Margaret Hastings asks: Again, Mayor Rybak...do you have a response to
this expensive effort to keep pushing people who are homeless away from
the only refuge they can sometimes find?
Peter chimes in: Don't hold your breath waiting for a response from
Mayor Rybak, Margaret. While he can write
At the last DFL caucus for endorsing a candidate for Minneapolis mayor,
candidate Rybak had his supporters holding up TARGET signs when incumbant
SSB delivered her speech.
I wonder what kind of signs citizens can display if the current Mayor
should deliver a speech at the next DFL caucus.
Here
There's also May Day Books on the West Bank of U of M where I can get Ad
Busters, and Once Upon A Crime at 604 W 26, near Lyndale, where I picked
up all the Easy Rawlings mysteries published so far (beautifully written
by Walter Mosley). I've also appreciated the used bookstores in Uptown:
Magers
Great commentary today by Margaret Hastings, Jim Mork and David Shove
Regarding Steve Brandt's article in the Star Tribune, I appreciated the
last paragraph where Barb Allivato, union president for development
employees, questions the dubious merit of the two appointments when
their
Britt says: Finally, those who profess to want to know the whole story
before drawing
any conclusions should hope for a lawsuit.
Peter says: This goes for our city as well as Market Bar-B-Que. Now
that our current Mayor and City Council gutted the Civilian Review
Authority, directing
Peter writes: Being a white racist in Minnesota means never having to say
you're sorry because you can always call people in the South racist.
David responds:I could just as glibly say being a guilt-ridden white
person in Minnesota means never having to prove your case. Both my
statement
Riverview Theatre, at 38th Street and 42nd Avenue, has been operating for
at least fifty-five years. It's one of my absolute favorites along with
the Parkway Theatre between 48th and 49th on Chicago. Peter Schmitz
CARAG
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Jon, You're absolutely right about Greek To Me. Thank you, and my
apologies for such a glaring omission.
BTW, The Heights Theater is gorgeous, and I loved seeing 2001: A Space
Odyssey there. I hope the restoration of The Hollywood Theater will
start a successful trend. I've always been
Dyna says: About now I hear the citizens of some of the city's wealthier
neighborhoods snickering. These hookers don't bother with condoms, and
you wealthy taxpayers get to pay for their AIDS treatment...
Peter says: I'm not sure if CARAG qualifies as one of the wealthier
neighborhoods, but
Thanks for the update, Margaret.
It'd be nice to believe that our Mayor and City Council would never
consider repeating such a despictable act of violence against homeless
people, but given that they currently allow rogue cops to beat and
harrass this population I'm not so sure.
As many human
Jim writes: Anybody else think there's something a little oneSIDED when
Democrats talk politics at the memorial of a political scientist and get
a backlash. Or a DFL council member notes the passing of a leading
racist and is threatened with a backlash. Yet a major party of the
RIGHT does one
So far, Wizard Marks has the best proposal regarding Library scenarios.
I didn't respond to David's call earlier because none of the 3 plans
appealed to me.
I really like the idea of keeping all the branch libraries open, with the
possible exception of the Walker due to all the expenses incurred
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:35:04 -0500 Terrell Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just returned from today's parade.
I've seen a lot of things at parades, but Gary Schiff's sign saying Good
Bye Strom Thurman was
totally without taste or class. I would expect better. The other side
of the same sign
It appears there was a lot of phoney posturing from on all sides during
Wednesday's evaluation of Police Chief Robert Olson and the Open House
that Mayor Rybak hosted afterwards for some dubious activists.
Rybak and four members of the City Council give token mention to
brutality during Police
My understanding of YUPPIE: I first heard the term in 1981, pertaining
to Young Urban Professionals.
They're generally depicted as white men and women with more disposable
income than the rest of society, living in quaint gentrified apartments,
condos or old homes in the city. They generally
WM: I don't think every cop out there is dumb as a bucket of hair.
Peter: I never said any cop out there was dumb as a bucket of hair or
whatever. The fact is, women and men in prostitution, whether they are
forced into it or not, are vulnerable to blackmail by rogue cops as long
as
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