I'm a little over 6'1, and probably average shoulder width. I had a
pair of 48cm noodles on an old b-stone XO-1, and then bought a 60cm
Rambouillet with a 46cm noodle on it. Being used to the 48cm, I
couldn't stand the 46cm. So I put moustaches on the XO-1,put the 48s
on the Rambouillet, and
I don't know if this helps or not, but I just bought one a couple of months
ago, as was discussed in this group. It is a '99 Joe Starck/Joe Bell
version, in good shape but probably not as nice as yours. I paid $1,650
and would have gladly paid more if I had the means and if it was
On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:59:19 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
(top tube is kinda' long for the seat tube, 51X54 is unusual),
If it is in fact a 51cm frame built around 700c tires as noted (which
certainly looks to be correct, based on the proportion), and room for some
My
*R*eliable,
*I*nvincible
*V*elocipede
*E*scapes
*N*obody's
*D*etection,
*E*liciting
*L*ustful
*L*onging
everywhere it goes.
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Good price on a nice 60cm quickbeam. Not mine, but I just saw this and
thought somebody here might be interested. (Apologies if I was supposed
to add the tag to an outing.) I just bought a green one in the same
size, or I would have been interested myself. Anybody want to buy this one
and
Gone daddy gone, 'Beam is gone!
Speedily sold, I imagine. How much were they asking?
Philip (green 60cm QB, myself)
www.biketinker.com
Huh. The link still shows the listing for me, but it was $1250 with what
looked to be sks fenders, fr campee racks, brooks saddle, nitto bottle
I'm curious about these too, and about what additional hubs they'll
release. In the meantime, check out Jeff Jones' blog:
http://www.jonesbikes.com/?option=com_wordpresslang=enp=2210Itemid=58
He's been making his own short cassettes for a while for his bikes, by
modifying 9-speed
Oh yeah. I guess I forgot that the quickbeam is 120mm. The chris king SS
hub is obviously 130mm:
http://chrisking.com/hubs/hbs_sspeed
Given the fact that several people have successfully re-set the rear end of
Simple Ones to utilize 135mm Rohloff hubs though, I think 130mm might not
be
Sorry, Matthew - I didn't make myself clear. I simply meant that if you
really wanted to use a hub with a short cassette, it wouldn't be that
much of a stretch (no pun intended) to use a 130mm hub, where a 120 is
intended. I was referencing the Rohloff thing because people have done it,
even
Hope this isn't too off topic for the list. I'm still really intrigued by
the Appaloosa concept, even though I can't quite explain why. But since I
don't really have the opportunity to visit RBW headquarters and check one
out in person, I'm having to pay attention to the comments from others
Looks like a have a lightly used 42cm Surly Long Haul Trucker frame for
sale, and thought I'd see if anyone here is interested. As you probably
know, this bike was based on the XO-1 and All Rounder designs.I
recently bought this to build up for my 10 year old daughter, who has
expressed a
Yeah, I'm psyched. Totally random that I saw it. Soon, I'll have the most
stylish, 26-wheeled, bike touring family ever, with our purple XO-1,
orange XO-1, green All Rounder and blue Rambouillet.
The other 55 cm XO-1 that sold along with this one, from the same seller,
was the REALLY
Well, sorry. Frame is sold. (More interest than I thought there'd be.
All I can say is that bicyclists sure do make great parents!)
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You know, now that you mention it... She DID seem to be flirting with
me. ;-)
On Monday, June 3, 2013 10:47:40 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
*... perhaps she thought you were a 'bull-moose', but soon realized those
are moustache bars...*
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I'd actually be quite surprised if the whole thing wasn't some
tongue-in-cheek, thinly-veiled, jesting poke meant directly FOR Bike Snob
NYC.
On Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:14:01 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
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Yer killin' me. Your post is exactly what I didn't want to ever
read.
A single speed bike makes absolutely no sense for me, living in the
mountains and given the kind of on-road riding that I do. But as much
as I love my decked-out Rambouillet, I thought I might enjoy riding
something lighter
I didn't get it, but tried and was only out-bid by a bit. I'd really
love to see some more pictures too, and learn more about the
geometry.
The whole disapointment in not getting it now has me wishing there was
still a comparable 26 Riv bike available. Is it my imagination, or
was it once an
://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/#mtnframe
(and there's a link there to a thread about the Generation 1 frames.)
- J
On Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:44:40 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
... (I know that the mtb was only a 55cm, but I was
guessing that it had a higher bottom bracket.)- Hide quoted text -
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Building on some other comments here, I'd look at the unpainted fork
as an opportunity, and suggest having some braze-ons added to accept
the struts for a small front rack like the Nitto/Riv Mark's Rack or a
two-strut model. Not having them is my biggest complaint about my
Rambouillet. If you
On May 6, 7:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
The quill stem was allowing
the bars to twist, the new one wasn't.
That's my experience, too. I have 12 bikes and only 2 of them have
clamp-on stems. When I ride those two bikes, I'm always struck by how
much the stem doesn't twist
Don't forget the late, great Sheldon Brown's info pages, still hosted
on Harris Cyclery's website. I use that resource way more than the
Park Tool site.
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I just had to send a new Titanico back to the factory for repair this
week (a rivet wasn't fastened properly). I spoke with Tom's sister,
Carol, who was very nice. She said that she and the rest of Tom's
family are undergoing a steep learing curve to pick up the business
and to keep it running
Toshi,
Please keep us updated if you do this. I'd love to see how it turns
out.
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Well, Joe, I don't know whether to thank you or be mad at you but,
being as vocal as I have about wishing for a 26 wheeled Riv., I had
to buy it. The price had come down by $250 and the $250 worth of
Nitto racks helped me rationalize it. Gorgeous green paint, frame in
perfect condition, nice
us how it compares in ride (not fit -- obviously
the bigger one will fit better from what you've said) with the XO-1. I
owned a 55 '92 and found my Rivs much an improvement.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:
http://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59cm-rivendell
A friend just sent me a link to this petiton on the whitehouse.gov
website, and I thought many of you would be interested. Since its
political and everyone is entitled to have their own views, I'll stop
short of saying sign it.
But it's a nice idea: If someone arrives at a National Park Service
or they have campground hosts that
are willing to make accommodations for a weary cyclist.
On Friday, December 7, 2012 4:50:30 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:
A friend just sent me a link to this petiton on the whitehouse.gov
website, and I thought many of you would be interested. Since its
political
I happened accross some additional pictures of this bike recently,
when the current owner bought it and posted about it here:
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=108969
That's one of the prettiest bikes I've ever seen, but I'm going to go
out on a limb and say that it's probably a
Regarding the touch-up paint question, there's a formula for using
Testor's paint on the cyclofiend site here:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/color.html
I've used it with moderate success on my Ram, but not quite
perfect. It seems to need a bit more of a greenish tint to be
perfect. I could
Oh yeah... as to your question of what kind of bike the Rambouillet
is, I've always enjoyed the description from Peter White's website,
comparing them to the A.H.H., from when he stocked them both. There
are some nice photos if you follow this link to the original page
I think that maybe I'M the target market! Now that I know what the
mystery bike is all about, it's giving me serious pause. I just
finished paying for my oldest kid's college, and I've been seriously
teetering on the edge of ordering my first custom bike ever as a
reward - a totally frivolous
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're over-thinking
this. The frame size shouldn't have anything to do with how fore or
aft your saddle is, relative to the bottom bracket. Assuming the seat
tube angles are identical, the only thing that will change is the
amount of seat post
I've got similar projects going on, but in the opposite direction.
Like you, I've been preferring to ride my cross bike lately, on single
track mostly. It has Woodchippers on it now, and I've uploaded some
photos at the link below. Meanwhile, I'm about to take the moustache
bars off of my
This is what I love about this group. The only thing hanging in my
garage in larger numbers than Bridgestones and Rivendells are old
Bontragers.
I want a Bontrager Privateer pretty bad. Those frames were really cool, and
Bontrager seems to be kind of retro in his stylings before Trek
perhaps
I think it's cool that you're letting outsiders buy a pin/patch.
I'd be in. Some day down the road, this and a just ride patch will
have deep meaning to a small fraternity of people.
I love this story because it reminds me of a secret club that a bunch
of guys who I grew up ski racing with
Patrick,
I'm really kind of a new guy and only occasional participant here
myself, but I wanted to say welcome AND thanks for the inspiration!
My father, though quite a bit older than you, had a rare type of
stroke a few years ago that has primarily messed with his balance and
given him terrible
I've been thinking about the midge for an off-road bar lately too. In
some ways it seems almost perfect, but my problem is that the
short lower drop extensions seem way too short to fit my hands
securely. So I found a product called Terminators from Control
Tech (
Matt, that is OUTSTANDING!
It's crazy to me how there are so many dirt drop and alt bars out
there, with new ones coming out seemingly all the time, and yet how
none of them seem to be able to get it just right. I know this is
highly subjective and personal but, with the exception of width
A comment and a question:
I'll reiterate the praise for the Bagman support, if you're looking for a
horizontal support like the Hupe gave. I love mine, though I 've never
tried the Hupe to compare it against. On the other hand, the key
disadvantage (or *benefit*, depending on how you look
On Friday, March 15, 2013 10:18:30 AM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:
A comment and a question for those with experience:
I'll reiterate the praise for the Bagman support, if you're looking for a
horizontal support like the Hupe gave. I love mine, though I 've never
tried the Hupe to compare
Thanks, Bob! That's good enough for me to go ahead and try it.
On Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:45:11 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote:
Keith,
I bought a Wire Guard for the same reason you list. There was the
potential for some cable rub on the small Saddlesack that I use on my Hunq.
A top
I don't know if I'm more impressed with the simple inginuity of your
solution, or the artistry and composure of the snapshots.
On Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:33:17 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
You can make something out of a wire hanger if you're just trying to
protect the bag from
Just wondering. My wife and I will be there on a Rambouillet and an
All-Rounder. I know it's a long shot, but it would be a nice opportunity
to put some faces to names.
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Oh! I like this idea. Either Bellingham or Colorado Springs both work
well for me (As well as any two places I could think of, actually. East
coast would be pretty difficult.) A couple of suggestions:
1. Plans/itineraries, if this actually happens, should be firmed up by
early- to
These seem to come up occasionally, but never when I'm flush with funds.
I'm hoping to find a 60cm Saluki - butterscotch only / either canti or
extra-long reach caliper version / complete bike or frameset. I'd
appreciate a note if anyone has one for sale or knows of one. Thanks!
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Man, this bike is really gorgeous. And I want a 60 cm Saluki s
badly. But I have two green Rivendells and, though I know it's
silly, really want a different color for the sake of variety. So in
case there's anybody out there reading this, who has a butterscotch version
and
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gsCciKDgIqI/UjxaKhBsgGI/ACc/0WItzTSrZ3Q/s1600/mb1dd.jpg
Common predicament, sounds like.I'm also 6'2 (short inseam) and have
been trying for a long time to make a 20.5 (52cm) MB1 work for me. It now
seems almost comical to remember that this is
No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it
seems others have already confirmed this: 60 cm seems just right for you.
I am between 6'-1 and 6'-2, but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, with a
long torso. The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:27:38 AM UTC-6, Kieran J wrote:
In looking for a used Ram frame, I'm not sure how one could know which
brake bridge height you had (lower vs. higher), apart from the colour,
which seems to be at least part indication of the frame's age (orange, then
I'm using one, and have some (very quick) impressions:
- Great company and customer service, as mentioned. Nice to support a
small, US company/family with such a compelling (andsort of tragic) story,
too. And you've gotta love a company who exists primarily to foil the
major component
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:00:57 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
maybe your ex-gf is selling it?
This is the first thing that came to my mind. If you bought her that
saddle, and she doesn't want it, she should just give it back, damn it.
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Nice bike! FYI, though: Though I may be wrong, I'm pretty sure that's not
an '85. The '85 had a lugged unicrown fork and steeper angles. Yours
looks like maybe a '84 stumpjumper sport??? Great bike, either way, and
nicely set up. (You had me excited for a bit, because I've been searching
Excuse sloppy post from phone keyboard: ive, a couple of times found squeek at
bb due to bb mounting threads - particularly the kind with sepparate retainer
cups like phil. Remove, clean threads, re-install with teflon plumbing tape ,
instead of lock-tite.
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The White Industries double freewheels use 8-speed chains, which opens up the
half-link option, in case it doesn't work otherwise.
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On Monday, December 9, 2013 1:09:14 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
I love what Surly is doing with the 29er+ bikes (Krampus / ECR), except
I'm not a big fan of the slightly slack headtube angle (69.5 degree)...
maybe Surly is concerned about toe overlap (with those gargantuan
Thought many of you fellow un-racers might appreciate this as much as I
do:
http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/racing_sucks
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I guess I took it as pretty tounge-in-cheek. Spending as much time reading
forums as I do, that are all way less civil than this one, I've probably
forgotten how to be offended - though I can see how many would take it that
way. It's DEFINITELY generational, however - which, though I didn't
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:16:08 PM UTC-7, Mojo wrote:
Interesting the iamkeith found the Krampus to be nimble.
I actually haven't tried it. This is just what others seem to be saying
- like Eric, above. (maybe this is what you meant, though) Like you, I'm
still scratching
Don't know if he'll answer, but I can tell you that he doesn't have it.
because I bought it. If it makes you feel better, it wasn't quite the
deal I'd hoped it would be. (Not airing a grievance here - no real foul or
harm done, considering the price.) If you or Marc or anyone else
is
Marc,
As I said, no grievance or hard feelings whatsoever! At the price you sold
it to me for, it was worth the risk and worth the effort, and I'm really
happy with what it turned out to be - even if it wasn't my original
vision. I have no regrets. As I said in that other thread, it now
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:19:27 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for 1.75-1.9 X 26 knobby tires?
My XO-3 fits the 2 big apples gone but I tried some 2.1 knobby ties and
it was clearly a no go.
Tony
1.95 Kenda Small Block 8s fit on my '93
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:46:55 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Keith was that 'not' with fenders? Either way would be OK... If I'm going
knobby I think if rather go as plush as possible.
Tony
Yes, oops. NOT with fenders. If the XO-3 had a bit longer chainstays,
it may even
On Monday, January 6, 2014 5:24:06 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
Tony, I'm 6'1 with a PBH of 91. Our tandem has 26 wheels, with Marathon
Racer tires, 1.6. The only draw back I've found is finding a front bag
tall enough to bring a map into reading range.
Michael's comment
A couple of years ago, we lost our only real bike shop, here in Jackson,
WY. They moved about 45 miles away, over to Idaho where the cost of living
is lower. But they were kind enough to install and start maintaining one
of these. Pretty cool idea, indeed! They even have chains in it.
On
Peter,
If you (or Tony D., hint hint) are not set on the cantilever brakes
option, that 60cm Rambouillet on craigslist, in another recent thread, is a
great option. There have been a few discussions recently about how well
they convert to 650b (even wide ones, like the Hetres), by using
Oh my gosh, that's beautiful! I LOVE the twin diaga-tubes. Sort of
Breeze-esque which is, to my eye, much more elegant than the lugged,
single, full-size diaga-tube at the front triangle.Did they do this for
you because expressly because you needed a smaller frame, where the other
I agree completely, and might even take it a couple of steps further:
Don't forget that many of those products that are available elsewhere were
actually designed BY Rivendell, with a significant outlay of their time
and/or other resources. It's not as if they even sell *anything* at
and knockoff? This is simply stupid. I wonder what Grant
has to say about this?
Patrick Sheesh! Moore, who has been supporting Rivendell since 1994 but
who effing won't indulge in thoughtless cheerleading.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM, iamkeith keith...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
I
All,
I apologize for my earlier post that sort of derailed this conversation
right at the beginning. My premise really wasn't even valid, considering
the original point of the thread. I happened to take a quick look at the
board, saw something that struck a chord, and hastily posted without
Well I don't have any feedback to give you, but I wanted to let you know
you're not alone in these musings. I was seriously toying with the idea
- and almost posting the same question - about my Quickbeam a few months
ago. Then the whole Simplebeam project got proposed and I decided to
Regarding Mike and Bills comments:
I might be missing something, but I kind of think of the QB/SO as precisely
that: A skinny 700c bike. So in theory, the bottom bracket should stay in
roughly the same place if you go to a fat 650b, right? Also, if you look
at the Riv geometry charts, I
, 2014 6:41:47 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote:
Regarding Mike and Bills comments:
I might be missing something, but I kind of think of the QB/SO as
precisely that: A skinny 700c bike. So in theory, the bottom bracket
should stay in roughly the same place if you go to a fat 650b, right?
Also
For the heck of it, here are some of the 650b conversions I mentioned;
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2006/ssg024-ronlau0406.html
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg320-leechae1110.htm
And here is a thread that attempts, and then dismisses, the idea of fitting
43mm Rock 'n Roads:
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:09:37 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
Hey Keith, I have a 64cm Orange QB with RnR's they fit fine for me,
and Ive had them on since the RnRs were first re-introduced, so theyve
def expanded a hair. My wheels are pretty true, even a slight wobble
Thanks for posting. This is good news. Just in case people haven't seen
it, here is yet another, similar new option from Surly - a 700c x
41mm, based on their 29+ Knard tire.
http://surlybikes.com/parts/wheels/knard_41
Cool back-story on the nano-raptor, in that link. I think it's great
I have a couple of bikes with 9 speed setups, but mostly use and prefer 7
and 8 speed. But I do this based on a preferences for the wider, more
durable chain (that doesn't stretch and wear out as quickly as a thinner
9-speed), and for thumbshifters which are more readily available in 7/8
I failed to mention another important consideration:
If you currently have 9-speed series derailleurs, you might have a bit of
trouble with an 8-speed chain, because the cages are narrower and the chain
is wider. It can work, but it becomes even more fussy because the
derailleur has to be
I've been building up a really special bike project this winter, but just
hit a snag. It was intended to serve somewhere in the space between a
mountain bike and a road bike, for fast rides on bumpy roads trails, more
mountain than road. Having *finally* dialed-in and become completely
Thanks, Michael. If I understand correctly, you're saying to try to find
an albastache bar that mistakenly had the wrong collar installed - not to
find a smaller collar alone, to swap. ( I guess that's the only way it
would work, so of course that's what you're saying.) I'll ask Riv, but
I
Not rude at all. Probably hard for most to understand my reasoning,
though. The bike is a really rare, Ritchey softtail. It has an almost as
hard-to-find 1 steerer suspension fork, that requires a threadless
headset. And I have the period-correct Ritchey-labeled, threadless,
nitto-built
OLD (sometimes OLN) = Over Locknut Dimension: the width of your hub axle
and corresponding dropout/fork spacing
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I bought a pair of the 1.75 Compass tires last year when I built up my All
Rounder, and have maybe 1000 miles on them at most. My only other tire
experience on this bike is with some to some continental tour-rides of the
same size. However, I do have regular 700c Paselas on my quickbeam and
By octopus stays, are you guys referring to the twin, Joe Breeze-style
diaga-tubes? If so, I agree that those were much more beautiful on
Liesl's frame, than the single diagatube.Seems like it could
potentially save MORE cost too, by eliminating one big and rather intricate
lug.
On
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:58:00 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
There is no way a frame can be designed to work well with multiple wheel
diameters. A bike designed with a specific wheel size range in mind will
work best with that wheel size range and design.
Well as I see it,
Funny you should mention that. From what I understand, the technology of
the Avid mechanical brakes hasn't changed a bit since they were released,
and the BB7 is still always held as the benchmark. However another rumor
I'd heard recently - yet again fueled by fat bikes - is that TRP is
My Rambouillet was originally sold at Coventry Cycles when they were a
Rivendell Dealer, and I bought my All Rounder at Sellwood Cycles. Both
great shops, both pre-date the current hipster culture,
bike-as-fashion-statement movement that some people associate with Portland
today. Also, don't
William,
I sent you an email yesterday - very interested. Check your email for
contact info. Just want to confirm a couple of dimensions.
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:13:57 PM UTC-6, William! wrote:
I've come to the painful realization that our tandem needs to go. The bike
was lovingly
Scott,
In addition to the options mentioned above, you might look at the Rawland
rSogn. It's a 650b - so not quite as small of a wheel as you're after, but
I've always heard it described as very similar to the original Rivendell
All Rounder - if not directly attributing it as the
Congratulations! The color grew completely on me, just in the time it took
me to read your blog entry. Enjoy it.
On Friday, March 21, 2014 9:46:11 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-bike-day.html
I'm quite satisfied to say that I've introduced another Riv
I call dibs for Manny. But im traveling and cant figure out how to pm him on
my cell phone. Anyone else...
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That looks so good! So I have a question for you:
Almost every bike I've bought in the last 10 years or so has been as a
substitute/proxy for the Atlantis that I really want, because I seem to
fall squarely between Atlanti sizes. But, since I know that I would set it
up with the biggest
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZWpG3F0UV5I/VCDUJsLaG7I/AD4/MmbOKzZp-R4/s1600/Team_ForkEnd.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-52sughhrTx4/VCDT9SPTwUI/ADw/gmyMoXPoJAE/s1600/BB_Rambouillet.jpg
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:42:52 AM UTC-6, Daniel D. wrote:
$1500 price point is right up my alley. I'm going to be one of the first
in line for a test ride.
I'm with you, Daniel. I can't do a test ride, but I sure am anxious to see
the bike, and I check the Blug daily for news. I
Wow. I eat my words. it IS as nice as what I'd conjured up in my head!
Trying to make out some details and put some things together: so the
napkin rings are reinforcements at the top and bottom of the
headtube, and the top tube and down tube are tigged? Neat look. Maybe
the
On Friday, October 10, 2014 8:31:51 AM UTC-6, AaronY wrote:
Are the seat stays bowed or is that a camera artifact?
They sure look curved to me. I think it's really pretty, but you know
what might be kind of neat about this would be the ability to vary the
curve as necessary, to
On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:04:37 AM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:
I know they aren't going to come in 68 cm, but what were the sizes again?
From the Blug:
*There will be three sizes and three wheel sizes: 45/26…52/27.5…59/29. So,
twenty-six, 650B, and 700C, all with tubby tire clearance.
Jim,
I totally hear where you're coming from with the need for lower gears, and
I agree with the comments about fitting the fattest possible tires. Where
I live, in the rural Rocky Mountains, it's a given that I'd want quite a
bit smaller chainring and at least somewhat knobby tread. But I
Maybe it's the color, but the more I look at this (read: obsess over), the
more I think it looks like a stripped-down Appaloosa. Difficult to tell
how high the bottom bracket is, but it sure looks like a longish top tube
to go with those long chainstays.
Does anybody (perhaps one of the
On Monday, October 13, 2014 12:44:23 PM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
They were sized to each buyer, because I believe all buyers already
owned at least one Rivendell, which presumably fit well. I’m not certain I
fully understand your question, but I would characterize my Proto-App as
roadish
On Monday, October 13, 2014 1:01:15 PM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
Oh, now I understand the question. I ride a 61 Homer, 61 Atlantis, 56
Bombadil, 60 Quickbeam. All fit very well. I’ve never measured my Mystery
Bike (proto-App), but my guess is the seat tube is pretty close to 59. It
also
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