Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)

2009-10-15 Thread Martin

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ron Hunter wrote:

I use google maps on two different computers, and there is never a 
problem with either the + or the -.  Maybe you need to look at your 
local settings.  Perhaps something is getting in the way of the 
application.


It must be a common setting, because lots of people are affected, 
including me.



It is functional and displays data on both + and - mouse pushes.

It is possible that you over + and a grid of names comes up.  Moved to close.

Martin
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread Mark Hansen
On 10/15/09 19:11, Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:43:07 -0700, "David E. Ross" 
> wrote:
> 
>>If user.js still works with SM 2
> 
> 
> Did a search of the Seamonkey install folder and user.js does not exist
> 
> R

That doesn't necessarily mean it's not used by SM 2.0, as it is a user-created
file.

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread Russell
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:43:07 -0700, "David E. Ross" 
wrote:

>If user.js still works with SM 2


Did a search of the Seamonkey install folder and user.js does not exist

R
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Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-15 Thread NoOp
On 10/15/2009 04:48 PM, Jim S wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Webdude wrote:
> 
>> I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
>> install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?
> 
> I guess you mean Lightning and I too have tried to install the newest
> nightly in RC1 without success.

Bookmark this link if you are using linux:

or for Windows:

Actually, drag it to your Navigation toolbar so you'll be able to easily
find it.

>From the browser: about:config
add (right click in the Preference name area & click New|Boolean)
extensions.checkCompatibility
Set it to false.

Now go to the above and and double-click the lightning.xpi - you should
then be able to install.


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Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-15 Thread Jim S
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Webdude wrote:

> I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
> install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?

I guess you mean Lightning and I too have tried to install the newest
nightly in RC1 without success.
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Re: Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-15 Thread Robert Kaiser

Webdude wrote:

I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?


You need to use a nightly from tomorrow or later, those work in RC1 and 
later.


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Lighting in Seamonkey 2.0 RC1

2009-10-15 Thread Webdude
I had lighting running in Seamonkey 2.0 Beta, however when I try to
install it to RC1, it breaks everything. Any ideas?
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Re: Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread Frosted Flake

NoOp wrote:

On 10/15/2009 01:27 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:
Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox 
3.0.14


The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer 
8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]


Any idea why?


Try:

Edit|Preferences|Privacy & Security|Images|Animated images should loop -
'As many times as the images specifies'.

(Crosspost to mozilla.support.firefox removed)

Setting interations to '0' makes it loop forever.  Resolved
Thanks to all
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Re: Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread NoOp
On 10/15/2009 01:27 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:
> Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox 
> 3.0.14
> 
> The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer 
> 8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]
> 
> Any idea why?

Try:

Edit|Preferences|Privacy & Security|Images|Animated images should loop -
'As many times as the images specifies'.

(Crosspost to mozilla.support.firefox removed)
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Re: Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread Frosted Flake

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/15/2009 1:27 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:
Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox 
3.0.14


The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer 
8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]


Any idea why?


I have always advocated using a user interface (when available) instead
of tweaking preference variables.  This ensures that any necessary
housekeeping (e.g., for related variables) will occur.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the
Preferences window, select [Privacy & Security > Images].  On the Images
pane, select the radio button under "Animated images should loop" for
the effect you want.

I don't use Firefox (yet), so I can't tell you how to set this for that
browser.

Both browsers have image.animation_mode set to normal and Seamonkey has 
"animated images should loop" "as many times as the image specifies"


I just did some testing and it appears to be the iteration count.  So, 
should it be '0' to loop forever?

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Re: Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/15/2009 1:27 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:
> Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox 
> 3.0.14
> 
> The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer 
> 8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]
> 
> Any idea why?

I have always advocated using a user interface (when available) instead
of tweaking preference variables.  This ensures that any necessary
housekeeping (e.g., for related variables) will occur.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the
Preferences window, select [Privacy & Security > Images].  On the Images
pane, select the radio button under "Animated images should loop" for
the effect you want.

I don't use Firefox (yet), so I can't tell you how to set this for that
browser.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

2009-10-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/15/2009 10:43 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> A Williams wrote:
>> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 Oh!  mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey appeared twice in the Newsgroups
 distribution list.
>>> Yes, apparently I failed to change the second one to a "Followup-to" as
>>> I had intended :(
>>>
>>> Robert Kaiser
>> Hmmm, could that not be considered a bug?
>> If you have an address duplicated in the list of recipients, a really
>> clever mail/news client would warn you.  Not that that will be in the RFC!
> 
> That would be a useful feature, I think ideally it would have three settings, 
> for warn and wait approval, for ignore, and for 'send just one copy' to avoid 
> some cases where [reply all] has the sender in the cc list.
> 

See bug #522294 at .   

Followup set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.

-- 
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Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: On a Mac, what is small green circle with number over Seamonkey icon in dock?

2009-10-15 Thread Bob Fleischer

Rich Gray wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 02/21/07 07:16, Marco wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Rich Gray wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

I'm an only occasional Mac user, and I installed SeaMonkey 1.1 on
Mac OS 10.3.9 recently. Sometimes there's a small green circle
with a number in it over the SeaMonkey icon in the dock. What does
this mean?

Bob Fleischer
Groton, MA

"You've got mail!" :)


the number should correlate to how many new/unread messages you have.
GW

Can you explain the logic of having 3 new/unread messages in my inbox
and one in the green circle? (not the same senders). I can have 5 new
messages and only one or two in the green circle.

For an unknown reason (to me), it seems to stop counting...

TIA



It is possible that it's only counting new messages received in the
most recent 'Get New Messages'? I know for Seamonkey on Windows and
Unix, that the look of each unread message changes the next time I
do a Get New Messages, so I think the application can tell the
difference.


The count is intended to be new messages and (as is proper) is to
be cleared once you have done something that indicates you've seen
the notification (so it is ready to indicate the arrival of more new
mail.) Thus, new mail notification is by design ephemeral.
(Sometimes too much so.)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344066#c4




On Mac OS 10.4, with SeaMonkey 2.0 RC1 (and previous beta), the number 
in the circle in the dock appears to be the total number of unread 
messages rather than, as with SM 1.1, the number of "new" messages.  In 
my case, my inbox has thousands of unread (and probably never will be 
read) messages, so now the number in the icon is huge and useless.


Was the definition of this number in the icon on the dock changed for 
version 2?


Bob
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Re: Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Frosted Flake  wrote:
> Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox
> 3.0.14
>
> The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer
> 8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]
>
> Any idea why?

Go to about:config and check that image.animation_mode is set to
"normal" and not "none". (If someone wants to disable animations, they
can set it to "none")
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Re: Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread Ron K.

Frosted Flake on 10/15/2009 4:27 PM, keyboarded a reply:
Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox 
3.0.14


The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer 
8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]


Any idea why?


possibly because this pref is not set to normal.
image.animation_mode

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

2009-10-15 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Robert Kaiser, on 10/10/2009 9:41 AM typed:

SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1 is now available for free download on
the SeaMonkey website. We encourage testers to get involved in
discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product.

Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-10-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0rc1

Release notes (preliminary ones for 2.0, RCs don't get separate relnotes):
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements

Newsgroups: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
File a bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
Get Involved: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator


Running 2.0RC1 on Win XP Pro SP3 with an import of my SM 1.1.18 profile, and
seeing the following for which I'd appreciate any info, especially if there's a
fix in the works for the more annoying behavior:

A) Password manager multiple requests -- I currently use a Master Password with
SM 1.1.18, set for "If it has not been used for [10] minutes or longer," and it
works as expected, with necessary requests being made within those parameters
for needed passwords on a web page or for mail access.  SM 2.0RC1 makes what
appear to be random requests that have nothing to do with actually supplying a
password, including a request at start-up of only the browser, and it doesn't
appear to honor the above timeout settings.  This is becoming *very* annoying,
and from a scan of Bugzilla, there still is no fix in the works.  What up w'
dat, peeps?

B) Offline and Disk Space setting -- although SM 2.0RC1 honors the setting to
"Ask me for online state at startup," it a) brings up a second dialog box after
clicking on either option, and has to be clicked on again to start the program
in either mode; and b) the dialog box is accompanied by the Default Beep sound
assigned by Win XP.  Regarding the latter, 1.1.18 doesn't do this, so I'm
wondering what the intrinsic change was with the shift to Toolkit that makes
this now the program behavior.  While certainly not critical, it does become a
bit annoying.  The former behavior (a) is definitely a bug, but I have not been
able to drill down in Bugzilla to find a listing (to be honest, it is VERY
DIFFICULT to find specific bugs these days through the system, and it is not all
intuitive, IMHO).

C) Mail and News default view -- in 1.1.18, mail/news starts up opened to my
default mail account Inbox folder in the left pane, showing the folder contents
in right pane.  2.0RC1 opens up to the main e-mail title in the left pane, thus
showing the general settings for e-mail and specific options for the account
(Email, Accounts, Advanced Features).  While the behavior of 2.0RC1 may be
beneficial if a user has multiple e-mail accounts, the behavior of 1.1.18 is
preferable if a user only has one account and one Inbox.  Is there a means to
modify 2.0RC1's behavior to be like 1.1.18's, or is this a reflection of the
shift to Toolkit and just something I'll have to put up with?  (And explain to
my elderly parents when I shift them over to 2.0, because anything that changes
on the computer gives them license to get bothered...)

As stated above, further info greatly appreciated on the described behavior, and
fix info, especially for (A), appreciated even more.

I used to want my MTV.  Now I just want all my usual Add-Ons for SM 2.0 --
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Animated .gif

2009-10-15 Thread Frosted Flake
Animated .gif files do not animate on either Seamonkey 1.1.8 or Firefox 
3.0.14


The do animate on Google Chrome 3.0.195.27, Internet Explorer 
8.06001.1870.2, Opera 10.00.1750, and Safari 4.0.3 [531.9.1]


Any idea why?
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Re: Strange newsreader behavior with privatenews.microsoft.com only

2009-10-15 Thread John

KristleBawl wrote:

John wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey v1.1.18, and I have accounts setup for several 
newsservers. The newsserver privatenews.microsoft.com has started 
behaving strangely. Any time I click on one of the newsgroups to which 
I have already subscribed on that server, I get the pop-up asking 
"Would you like to subscribe to ?" After I click "yes" 
it shows me all the messages, but all are marked as "unread", even 
though I have previously marked all current messages as "read". This 
didn't used to happen on this server, and it doesn't happen on any of 
the other servers I use. Is this something I can correct with a 
setting change, or is it a problem with the newsserver itself? Thanks!


It sounds like damaged files in your profile.  I would try deleting the 
server and all associated files and start over from the beginning, on 
just that server.  As it is, you're basically starting over every time 
you access the newsgroups.



That fixed it. Thanks!

John
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Re: "Copy Complete" window - Random

2009-10-15 Thread chicagofan

Ray_Net wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have the same problem  hanging pop-up when the mail has been
sent. Why are you convinced that this bug is solved in SM 2.0 ?



It hasn't been, through the 2.0 RC1 that I downloaded. I've been
wondering if I changed the settings NOT to save a copy for Sent
messages, would that problem go away. I guess if this doesn't get fixed
in the 2.0 final version I'll get around to testing it. ;)   bj



I saw this window (just once) in RC1 also.
Bob



It's happened several times with me, which is normal for previous versions.
It seems to be a timing thing.  If the news server doesn't respond
quickly, this is where I see more of these hang ups,  and eventually have
to cancel the window.  Sometimes the message is sent, sometimes not, I
suppose depending on how soon I canceled out.

It's puzzling... maybe SM should disconnect sooner?  Is there a setting
for attempts to connect?bj



You have a good approach ... it's certainly a "timing window" problem. This
kind of problem is not easy to cure, because it's not easy to reproduce. And
will never corrected in SM due to the politic way of managing bugs ... :-) We
can close this thread :-)



LOL!!!  Message received!  :)
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Re: facebook focus problem

2009-10-15 Thread Dale DePriest

Martin Freitag wrote:

Dale DePriest schrieb:

I am running seamonkey 1.1.18 and using facebook. Recently the box at
the top of the home screen has started refusing to take focus. The field
says: What's on your mind. I click in the box and it widens to accept
input but I cannot type into the box. Any letters I type end up
selecting other letters on the page.

I can use the comment boxes but not the main one. If I go to my wall
page it behaves the same. I asked facebook about this problem and they
suggested I empty cache and cookies. I tried that but it doesn't help.
This used to work. Anyone know how to fix this?


Copy the source-code of that page to the w3c validator and see if
critical errors ocur. If yes: throw them at the facebook people.
If not, give Seamonkey 2.0RC a try to see if it behaves the same (can be
installed seperately to another directory and will import your data to a
new profile also)
regards

Martin


Here is what I get:

> Sorry, I am unable to validate this document because its content type 
>is application/octet-stream, which is not currently supported by this 
>service.


>The Content-Type header is sent by your web server (or web browser if 
>you use the file upload interface) and depends on its configuration. 
>Commonly, web servers will have a mapping of filename extensions (such 
>as ".html") to MIME Content-Type values (such as text/html).


Looks like the validator won't work on their files. I did a view source 
and then saved it. Once I did that I uploaded it to the validator. The 
first few lines of the file said:


http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" lang="en" 
id="facebook" class=" no_js">






Re: moving email structure.

2009-10-15 Thread Dale DePriest

Martin Freitag wrote:

Dale DePriest schrieb:

I am running out of space on my C: drive and I need to move the
Seamonkey email structure. I moved all kinds of other stuff by changing
the application default in the registry (lots of stuff and copied the
entire structure to another drive) but Seamonkey still wants the C
drive. I use SeaMonkey 1.1.18


Your profile is always on C: if you didn't move it, no matter where you
put Seamonkey as application.
Copy your profile to another drive and use the profile manager to guide
SM to this new directory (by creating a "new" profile).
Don't know where your profile is?
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
regards

Martin


Thanks, looks like I have some reading to do.

Dale
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

2009-10-15 Thread Bill Davidsen

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/10/2009 9:41 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1 is now available for free download on 
the SeaMonkey website. We encourage testers to get involved in 
discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-10-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0rc1

Release notes (preliminary ones for 2.0, RCs don't get separate relnotes):
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements

Newsgroups: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
File a bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
Get Involved: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator


Was there a glitch in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?  Kaiser's original
message and every reply appears twice.


I forwarded your question to the Department of Redundancy Department.  ;-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

2009-10-15 Thread Bill Davidsen

Robert Kaiser wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1 is now available for free download on 
the SeaMonkey website. We encourage testers to get involved in 
discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-10-10

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0rc1

Perhaps the "check for updates" should suggest more testing at this level rather 
than tracking the daily releases (as many of us have been doing).



Release notes (preliminary ones for 2.0, RCs don't get separate relnotes):
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements

Newsgroups: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
File a bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
Get Involved: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate 1

2009-10-15 Thread Bill Davidsen

A Williams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Oh!  mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey appeared twice in the Newsgroups
distribution list.

Yes, apparently I failed to change the second one to a "Followup-to" as
I had intended :(

Robert Kaiser


Hmmm, could that not be considered a bug?
If you have an address duplicated in the list of recipients, a really
clever mail/news client would warn you.  Not that that will be in the RFC!


That would be a useful feature, I think ideally it would have three settings, 
for warn and wait approval, for ignore, and for 'send just one copy' to avoid 
some cases where [reply all] has the sender in the cc list.


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Re: facebook focus problem

2009-10-15 Thread NoOp
On 10/15/2009 02:23 AM, Martin Freitag wrote:
> Dale DePriest schrieb:
>> I am running seamonkey 1.1.18 and using facebook. Recently the box at
>> the top of the home screen has started refusing to take focus. The field
>> says: What's on your mind. I click in the box and it widens to accept
>> input but I cannot type into the box. Any letters I type end up
>> selecting other letters on the page.
>> 
>> I can use the comment boxes but not the main one. If I go to my wall
>> page it behaves the same. I asked facebook about this problem and they
>> suggested I empty cache and cookies. I tried that but it doesn't help.
>> This used to work. Anyone know how to fix this?
> 
> Copy the source-code of that page to the w3c validator and see if
> critical errors ocur. If yes: throw them at the facebook people.
> If not, give Seamonkey 2.0RC a try to see if it behaves the same (can be
> installed seperately to another directory and will import your data to a
> new profile also)
> regards
> 
> Martin

But be aware that in linux you'll probably run into the issue that I
posted in: "[YAFBQ] Facebook +Flash +linux".

I see the OP is using:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18

so probably won't be an issue with Dale.

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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-15 Thread NoOp
On 10/15/2009 02:52 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:35:40 -0500, /INFO WG/:
> 
>> RE: <<  Re: Convert emails to plain text  >>
>> 
>> With instructions that "simple" it would take users, neophyte to 
>> computing or to SM, hours to master.
>> 
>> Why not have an SM 2.x option to Export some, one mail box, 
>> selected or all messages to standard text files, knowing that 
>> those files with HTML (graphics and/or RTF level content) or 
>> attachments would of course have to be handeled.
> 
> That's stupid.  Why I haven't thought of the "ImportExportTools 
> (MboxImport enhanced)" extension (I'm using myself), earlier:
> 
> http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#importexporttools
> 
> It provides context menu options like:
> 
> "Export all messages in a folder as Plain text format (one file)"
> 
> and more.
> 

For individual msgs: File|Save As|File will save the msg (or multiple
msgs) as a plain text message. Now the interesing bit is that it will
put a .eml tag on the end. On my system (linux), Nautilus will default
to Opera to open the file (works). If I try to open in SeaMonkey 1.1.18
or 2.0, neither will open the file... _unless_ I change the .eml to .txt
and _then_ they will open the file in the browser window.

So thinking that I'd just change the Helper Application to include a
application/x-mimearchive
mime encapsulated web archive
.eml
I find that I can no longer do that in SeaMonkey 2.0 (can in 1.1.18).
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-15 Thread Bret Busby

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Bret Busby wrote:


Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:16:58 +0800 (WST)
From: Bret Busby 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Martin Freitag wrote:


Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:32:16 +0200
From: Martin Freitag 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

Bret Busby schrieb:


I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and
I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having
anything to do with Java.

When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it
is not using any plugins.

Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a
particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one
about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I
have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how
to instead use only manual refreshing.

One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather
observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at
ten minute intervals.

But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to 
crash

Auto-Refresh is no feature of SM afaik. Have you tried using these
websites with a new SM-profile? (whithout installing any extension for
the first start)
regards

Martin




From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript 
functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being 
funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular web 
pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes the 
auto-refreshing.


In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the message 
above, I found that the observations are updated every ten minutes, and the 
web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing significantly different to what 
I said above, I think, but it needed correcting.


Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not apply to 
the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions of plugins 
installed on this installation of SeaMonkey.


Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or plugins are 
insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation?


Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..




The news web page that refreshes when it wants to, is written in 
javascript, so I can't find the auto-refresh command.


The weather observation web page that refreshes every five minutes, has 
the auto-refresh command included in the header HTML code;

"" ;
nice and simple, and easy to find.

If SeaMonkey had a way of overruling auto-refreshing, by using a switch, 
the same way that some web browsers manage to overrule and stop pop-ups, 
it would be quite convenient, and, reduce bandwidth wastage.


--
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West Australia
..

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 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/14/2009 9:37 PM, KristleBawl wrote:
> Russell wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
>>> Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
>>> New > Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
>>> and set the value to true.
>> Hi KristleBawl,
>>
>> I celebrated too soon... :-(
>>
>> I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could
>> start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. 
>> Still
>> launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links.
>>
>> Have you tried the above with success?
>>
>> Russell.
>>
> After the above, make sure Seamonkey is *not* the default mail client 
> (it probably becomes default during installation) and open your 
> preferred mail client and reset it as the default.  It should work.
> 

If user.js still works with SM 2, set the preferences there instead of
using about:config.  With SM 1.1.x, this is a text file.  Whatever
installed default setting SeaMonkey has for a preference, user.js
overrides it.

The format is
user_pref("network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto", true);
The semi-colon at the end is required; many users forget it and then
wonder why it doesn't work.  Making this work also requires completely
terminating SeaMonkey and then restarting it.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/14/2009 9:09 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:
> J. Weaver Jr. wrote:
>> Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been 
>> doing the "Browser only" install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but 
>> she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and 
>> won't (and shouldn't have to) change.
>>
>> Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and 
>> support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably 
>> change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize 
>> the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here.
>>
>> Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the "Browser only" install option. 
>> Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry 
>> hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality.  -JW
> 
> No offense, but if you only want the browser component, why don't you just 
> use 
> FireFox? Surely, most people use SeaMonkey precisely because it contains 
> browser, mail and news (and now RSS) in a single application.
> 
> Or is it that you use ChatZilla or Composer? I never use those, so they are 
> not 
> important in my decision to use SeaMonkey.
> 

I don't use Firefox because it has bugs that I don't see in SeaMonkey.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/14/2009 8:12 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Russell wrote:
>> Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release
>> offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions.
> 
> SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

How then do I continue to use Eudora for E-mail and Thunderbird for
newsgroups?  I use a very old version of Eudora because it has features
that I don't see in any newer E-mail applications.  I use Thunderbird so
that I can switch browser profiles without switching newsreader profiles.

-- 
David E. Ross


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Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-15 Thread Bret Busby

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Martin Freitag wrote:


Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:32:16 +0200
From: Martin Freitag 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

Bret Busby schrieb:


I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and
I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having
anything to do with Java.

When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it
is not using any plugins.

Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a
particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one
about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I
have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how
to instead use only manual refreshing.

One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather
observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at
ten minute intervals.

But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to crash

Auto-Refresh is no feature of SM afaik. Have you tried using these
websites with a new SM-profile? (whithout installing any extension for
the first start)
regards

Martin




From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript 
functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being 
funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular web 
pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes the 
auto-refreshing.


In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the 
message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten 
minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing 
significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed 
correcting.


Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not 
apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions 
of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey.


Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or 
plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation?


Thank you in anticipation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

KristleBawl wrote:

Russell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser  wrote:


It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_.


Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my
usual email programme... so far no luck.

Russell


Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose 
New > Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name 
and set the value to true.


Default mail client
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client

how to disable mail in SeaMonkey 2.0a2pre
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=942055

How do I make Mozilla not use its own email client when clicking on an 
email link?

http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_use.html#externalmail


That works _great_, Kristle - thanks! Here's hoping it (or something 
like it) continues to work for 2.x.  -JW

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Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?

2009-10-15 Thread Arnie Goetchius

KristleBawl wrote:

Russell wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl
 wrote:


Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter)
Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and
choose New > Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as
the name and set the value to true.


Hi KristleBawl,

I celebrated too soon... :-(

I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I
could
start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does
not. Still
launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links.

Have you tried the above with success?

Russell.


After the above, make sure Seamonkey is *not* the default mail client
(it probably becomes default during installation) and open your
preferred mail client and reset it as the default. It should work.

When I open Help and look at Mail & Newsgroups Preferences, it states, 
in part:


Use SeaMonkey Mail as the default mail application: Select SeaMonkey 
Mail & Newsgroups as the default mail application for Windows and from 
within other applications such as Microsoft Word.


Note: Setting SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups as the default mail 
application may disable another mail application. To restore the other 
mail application as the default, deselect this option.


All of the options are grayed out and cannot be deselected. If this 
option worked as advertised in the Help section, would that not solve 
Russell's problem without resorting to about:config?

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Re: Strange newsreader behavior with privatenews.microsoft.com only

2009-10-15 Thread KristleBawl

John wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey v1.1.18, and I have accounts setup for several 
newsservers. The newsserver privatenews.microsoft.com has started 
behaving strangely. Any time I click on one of the newsgroups to which I 
have already subscribed on that server, I get the pop-up asking "Would 
you like to subscribe to ?" After I click "yes" it shows 
me all the messages, but all are marked as "unread", even though I have 
previously marked all current messages as "read". This didn't used to 
happen on this server, and it doesn't happen on any of the other servers 
I use. Is this something I can correct with a setting change, or is it a 
problem with the newsserver itself? Thanks!


It sounds like damaged files in your profile.  I would try deleting the 
server and all associated files and start over from the beginning, on 
just that server.  As it is, you're basically starting over every time 
you access the newsgroups.


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address book backups

2009-10-15 Thread Rick Merrill
Currently I "backup addresses"(my phrase) using  Tools | Export for each 
address book in LDIF format. This is useful because they can be sent to 
other  people and imported to other email programs.


Is there a way to export all one's address books at once?
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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-15 Thread Bill Spikowski

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:35:40 -0500, /INFO WG/:


RE: <<  Re: Convert emails to plain text  >>

With instructions that "simple" it would take users, neophyte to 
computing or to SM, hours to master.


Why not have an SM 2.x option to Export some, one mail box, selected 
or all messages to standard text files, knowing that those files with 
HTML (graphics and/or RTF level content) or attachments would of 
course have to be handeled.


That's stupid.  Why I haven't thought of the "ImportExportTools 
(MboxImport enhanced)" extension (I'm using myself), earlier:


http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#importexporttools

It provides context menu options like:

"Export all messages in a folder as Plain text format (one file)"

and more.



Thanks folks, I'll experiment with these methods and see which works best for me
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Re:SM 2.x Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-15 Thread INFO WG
Re: Convert emails to plain text

Thank you, Stanimir...
 
Extensions once more to the rescue.
 
My comments were more pertaining to the depth of the "do it manually" 
instructions that I read...but a good extension like "ImportExportTools 
(MboxImport enhanced)" sounds like just the answer needed.

Joe

> With instructions that "simple" it would take users, neophyte to 
> computing or to SM, hours to master.
> 
> Why not have an SM 2.x option to Export some, one mail box, 
> selected or all messages to standard text files, knowing that 
> those files with HTML (graphics and/or RTF level content) or 
> attachments would of course have to be handeled.

That's stupid.  Why I haven't thought of the "ImportExportTools 
(MboxImport enhanced)" extension (I'm using myself), earlier:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#importexporttools

It provides context menu options like:

"Export all messages in a folder as Plain text format (one file)"

and more.

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Re: Strange newsreader behavior with privatenews.microsoft.com only

2009-10-15 Thread David Wilkinson

John wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey v1.1.18, and I have accounts setup for several 
newsservers. The newsserver privatenews.microsoft.com has started 
behaving strangely. Any time I click on one of the newsgroups to which I 
have already subscribed on that server, I get the pop-up asking "Would 
you like to subscribe to ?" After I click "yes" it shows 
me all the messages, but all are marked as "unread", even though I have 
previously marked all current messages as "read". This didn't used to 
happen on this server, and it doesn't happen on any of the other servers 
I use. Is this something I can correct with a setting change, or is it a 
problem with the newsserver itself? Thanks!


John:

I use this news-server with SM 1.1.18 on a daily basis, and I am not having any 
trouble with it.


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Strange newsreader behavior with privatenews.microsoft.com only

2009-10-15 Thread John
I'm using SeaMonkey v1.1.18, and I have accounts setup for several 
newsservers. The newsserver privatenews.microsoft.com has started 
behaving strangely. Any time I click on one of the newsgroups to which I 
have already subscribed on that server, I get the pop-up asking "Would 
you like to subscribe to ?" After I click "yes" it shows 
me all the messages, but all are marked as "unread", even though I have 
previously marked all current messages as "read". This didn't used to 
happen on this server, and it doesn't happen on any of the other servers 
I use. Is this something I can correct with a setting change, or is it a 
problem with the newsserver itself? Thanks!


John
--
Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam?
A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.

Please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.
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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-15 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:35:40 -0500, /INFO WG/:


RE: <<  Re: Convert emails to plain text  >>

With instructions that "simple" it would take users, neophyte to 
computing or to SM, hours to master.


Why not have an SM 2.x option to Export some, one mail box, 
selected or all messages to standard text files, knowing that 
those files with HTML (graphics and/or RTF level content) or 
attachments would of course have to be handeled.


That's stupid.  Why I haven't thought of the "ImportExportTools 
(MboxImport enhanced)" extension (I'm using myself), earlier:


http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#importexporttools

It provides context menu options like:

"Export all messages in a folder as Plain text format (one file)"

and more.

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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Freitag
Bret Busby schrieb:
> 
> I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and
> I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having
> anything to do with Java.
> 
> When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it
> is not using any plugins.
> 
> Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a
> particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one
> about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I
> have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how
> to instead use only manual refreshing.
> 
> One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather
> observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at
> ten minute intervals.
> 
> But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to crash
Auto-Refresh is no feature of SM afaik. Have you tried using these
websites with a new SM-profile? (whithout installing any extension for
the first start)
regards

Martin

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Re: facebook focus problem

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Freitag
Dale DePriest schrieb:
> I am running seamonkey 1.1.18 and using facebook. Recently the box at
> the top of the home screen has started refusing to take focus. The field
> says: What's on your mind. I click in the box and it widens to accept
> input but I cannot type into the box. Any letters I type end up
> selecting other letters on the page.
> 
> I can use the comment boxes but not the main one. If I go to my wall
> page it behaves the same. I asked facebook about this problem and they
> suggested I empty cache and cookies. I tried that but it doesn't help.
> This used to work. Anyone know how to fix this?

Copy the source-code of that page to the w3c validator and see if
critical errors ocur. If yes: throw them at the facebook people.
If not, give Seamonkey 2.0RC a try to see if it behaves the same (can be
installed seperately to another directory and will import your data to a
new profile also)
regards

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Re: moving email structure.

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Freitag
Dale DePriest schrieb:
> I am running out of space on my C: drive and I need to move the
> Seamonkey email structure. I moved all kinds of other stuff by changing
> the application default in the registry (lots of stuff and copied the
> entire structure to another drive) but Seamonkey still wants the C
> drive. I use SeaMonkey 1.1.18

Your profile is always on C: if you didn't move it, no matter where you
put Seamonkey as application.
Copy your profile to another drive and use the profile manager to guide
SM to this new directory (by creating a "new" profile).
Don't know where your profile is?
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
regards

Martin

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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-15 Thread INFO WG
RE: <<  Re: Convert emails to plain text  >>

With instructions that "simple" it would take users, neophyte to computing or 
to SM, hours to master.
 
Why not have an SM 2.x option to Export some, one mail box, selected or all 
messages to standard text files, knowing that those files with HTML (graphics 
and/or RTF level content) or attachments would of course have to be handeled.
 
Joe

- Original Message ---

>From: Bill Spikowski 
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:52:11 -0400
>Subject: Re: Convert emails to plain text
>Message: 3
>
>Rickles wrote:
>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>> Is there a way to convert a large batch of emails (thousands) to a 
>>> plain text file or something similar?
>>> I'm looking for a way to allow someone to review these emails without 
>>> needing to install and use Seamonkey.
>>> If this method would retain attachments in their original formats, 
>>> that would be even better...
>> Seamonkey mails are ALREADY stored as text on your hard drive.  The 
>> graphical interface displays them as separate folders and messages.
>> 
>> Search your hard drive for a folder matching "*.slt" (without the 
>> quotes).  That folder is where your Seamonkey profile is.  Open that 
>> folder, and navigate down through the Mail folder, and the folder inside 
>> that (named for the email account through your ISP).  Inside that folder 
>> you'll find a collection of things, which will vary depending on how 
>> you've created subfolders inside your mail window.
>> 
>> The file 'inbox' (with no extension on it) is the text file which holds 
>> the messages of your Inbox.  The file 'inbox.msf' is an index for the 
>> first file.
>> 
>> If you've created subfolders in your Mail window Inbox (for example, 
>> 'Keep'), messages kept there are in subfolders of your Seamonkey mail 
>> location in the same way as Inbox.  There's a folder called 'Inbox.sbd' 
>> (inbox subdirectory) in the same place as the 'inbox' file.  Inside that 
>> Inbox.sbd folder is the text of the messages in your Inbox's subfolder 
>> ('Keep' and 'Keep.msf'.)  If you have subfolders of 'Keep' in your Mail 
>> inbox, you'll see a 'Keep.sbd' folder name, and files inside there. This 
>> pattern continues down as far as you nest folders in your Mail Inbox.
>> 
>> Wherever you find a file name ending in *.msf, there's a file of the 
>> same name with no extension on it.  Simply copy any file with no 
>> extension off to a USB flash pen or CD/DVD, and anyone can view the 
>> contents with a text viewer.
>
>
>That sounds pretty simple!
>
>What happens to email attachments? Are they embedded in these master text 
>files?

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Re: Convert emails to plain text

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Freitag
Bill Spikowski schrieb:
> 
> That sounds pretty simple!
> 
> What happens to email attachments? Are they embedded in these master
> text files?

Yes, you'll see large areas of "garbage-text" at these positions.
regards

Martin
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