Re: [Talk-ru] Данные OSM в формате XML и PBF - reloaded

2011-06-20 Thread Alexandr Zeinalov
На ГисЛабе запустился очередной проект, делающий все тоже самое, только лучше. Подробности: http://gis-lab.info/projects/osm_dump/ А можно добить область покрытия до бывшего СССР целиком? В частности, интересуют страны Балтии. И цыган^Wмолдован тоже!

Re: [Talk-ru] Данные OSM в формате XML и PBF - reloaded

2011-06-20 Thread Aleksandr Dezhin
20 июня 2011 г. 11:25 пользователь Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru написал: На ГисЛабе запустился очередной проект, делающий все тоже самое, только лучше. Подробности: http://gis-lab.info/projects/osm_dump/ А можно добить область покрытия до бывшего СССР целиком? В частности, интересуют

Re: [talk-ph] Makati or Makati City?

2011-06-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
City is superfluous. You can remove the same for most other cities. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:16 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Two variants of the Makati tags is_in:city Makati - 320 Makati City - 1 addr:city Makati - 1231 Makati City - 11 Obviously, Makati is

Re: [talk-ph] Makati or Makati City?

2011-06-20 Thread Rally de Leon
+1 Makati -1 Makati City +1 all cities with no similar provincial/regional names or equivalent (anywhere in the PH) must be stripped of their city suffixes or prefixes --- use a separate tag. (only exemptions are those: Cebu City (province of Cebu), Quezon City (Quezon Province), Sorsogon City

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map 2011

2011-06-20 Thread maning sambale
FYI, The old nominees for the past SOTM scholarships are: Maning, Eugene and Murlwe Maning and Eugene are interested to try their luck again this time. Murlwe declined due to personal commitments. If there are others interested to participate as an OSM-PH representative for this scholarship,

Re: [talk-ph] Makati or Makati City?

2011-06-20 Thread maning sambale
Done! http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8501098 I only touched is_in:city and addr:city. Let me know if it caused more harm than good so that I can revert them. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Makati -1 Makati City +1 all cities with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-20 Thread Steve Bennett
Hang on, here's Nearmap's statement: All such additions or edits submitted to OSM prior to 17 June 2011 may be held and continue to be used by OSM under the terms in place between OSM and the individual which submitted the addition or edit at the relevant time. And here's Nick's interpretation:

[OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread NopMap
Hi! First of all: I am in favour of the licence change itself, I have agreed a long time ago and I was actually looking forward to phase 4 bringing forward some decisions. Nevertheless, the enabling of phase 4 (which likely may have happened yesterday or so) strikes me as another pitiful

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, NopMap wrote: Instead, is guesswork and rumours all over again. The most definite insider information to have was yes, on IRC was someone with a test account who claims he can't edit anymore. Well there was an announcement on 14th June on this list and others by Mike Collinson saying

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread NopMap
Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: Well there was an announcement on 14th June on this list and others by Mike Collinson saying that we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. For anyone who had already agreed, this date passed unnoticed.

[OSM-legal-talk] License for OSM tiles

2011-06-20 Thread TimSC
Hi all, With the CTs/ODbL upon us, I was wondering about the tiles on the default layer on the OSM web page. The license change is based on the premise that CC-BY-SA is not appropriate for data*. The LWG are pushing to drop the CC-BY-SA license for data extracted from OSM and go with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Matthias Julius
NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de schrieb: Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: Well there was an announcement on 14th June on this list and others by Mike Collinson saying that we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. For anyone who had already

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Walking Papers is back and I'm sorry it was down.

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Hi everyone, I fixed Walking Papers today. It was not processing new prints and scans for almost two weeks. It's been hit with a double-whammy of garbage input and not enough of my time to fix it. Thank you, Mike.

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/06/2011 09:09, NopMap wrote: Hi! First of all: I am in favour of the licence change itself, I have agreed a long time ago and I was actually looking forward to phase 4 bringing forward some decisions. Nevertheless, the enabling of phase 4 (which likely may have happened yesterday or so)

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Mitja Kleider
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 01:40 -0700, NopMap wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Well there was an announcement on 14th June on this list and others by Mike Collinson saying that we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. For anyone who

Re: [OSM-talk] [Mapcss] Web browser mapping test

2011-06-20 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:57:42 +0300, Komяpa m...@komzpa.net wrote: and point it to URL http://kothic.org/js/ Hey, just wanted to say that it looks awsome! Great work there! Sebastian pgpXZFSjB963I.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread NopMap
Mitja Kleider wrote: This commit (tagged live) is a clear statement: http://git.openstreetmap.org/rails.git/commit/0a81411e68102cd8a755744bd4a1e2f6eafad549 I can see your point, but: More communication means a lot of additional work and is not something I would expect from those who

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:09 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual Hi! First of all: I am in favour of the licence change itself, I have agreed a long time ago and I was actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
NopMap wrote: Well, if it is to be this way... ...then maybe it would be a good opportunity for you to help! Why not volunteer to help LWG in its communications with the German community? It seems a shame to lament that things are as usual and not do anything about it. cheers Richard --

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Groom wrote: Apologies if this feature exists in all of the mainstream editing software. JOSM has a MOTD feature. Potlatch doesn't (and won't) because it's always used when embedded within a website which can choose to display whatever message it likes: indeed, osm.org does sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: Given that the clear intent to switch to phase 4 on Sunday was widely published, was that not enough? I got an email about it ... on my import accounts that haven't accepted the CT. It was reasonably well-announced to those for whom it mattered. -- --my blog is at

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread ThomasB
I fully understand Nop. Almost everyone only guessed that it might happen but no one was sure about it. To volunteer with communications with the German community would require to get some fact rather than vague statements. Even people that have read all communications and LWG minutes were not

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:29:53AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, NopMap wrote: Instead, is guesswork and rumours all over again. The most definite insider information to have was yes, on IRC was someone with a test account who claims he can't edit anymore. Well there was an

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread NopMap
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Why not volunteer to help LWG in its communications with the German community? It seems a shame to lament that things are as usual and not do anything about it. How should that work - without concrete information posted anywhere? bye Nop

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License for OSM tiles

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/20/11 11:52, TimSC wrote: My question is are we keeping the CC-BY-SA license for OSM tiles, which is a produced work under ODbL? or would be better to change? It is my understanding that it is planned to retain CC-BY-SA for now. There's really nothing to be said against changing to

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/20/11 12:28, Mitja Kleider wrote: Quoting http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-June/058727.html Michael Collinson wrote: I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the live database since the license is still CC-BY-SA. I believe there is no

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
NopMap wrote: How should that work - without concrete information posted anywhere? Ok. How do you fancy volunteering to be the person who posts the concrete information, then? You seem to be under the impression that magic communication fairies will crop up and make everything ok. It doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 06:55 -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Ok. How do you fancy volunteering to be the person who posts the concrete information, then? You seem to be under the impression that magic communication fairies will crop up and make everything ok. It doesn't work like that.

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread NopMap
Richard Fairhurst wrote: NopMap wrote: How should that work - without concrete information posted anywhere? Ok. How do you fancy volunteering to be the person who posts the concrete information, then? You seem to be under the impression that magic communication fairies will crop up

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Murn wrote: Maybe you dont understand the role of office-bearers of a 'non-profit' foundation. Sure, they are volunteers, but if they dont have the time to do the job they volunteered for properly, then it only hurts the community they claim to serve. Indeed. And if they don't, you

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
NopMap wrote: Yeah, sure, I'll just burn some incense, look deep into my crystal ball and guess what everybody has been doing. Why do you need to do that? Why don't you e-mail LWG and say: I think you've been having difficulties with your communications. I'd like to volunteer to be your

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread TimSC
On 20/06/11 15:53, Richard Fairhurst wrote: NopMap wrote: Yeah, sure, I'll just burn some incense, look deep into my crystal ball and guess what everybody has been doing. Why do you need to do that? Why don't you e-mail LWG and say: I think you've been having difficulties with your

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Steve Coast
I think the LWG is more than well aware that they are imperfect human beings volunteering in a horrible environment to make things better. They're well aware that people have little time to help on a week-to-week basis for multiple years. Which is what they've been doing. There are indeed

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/06/11 16:03, TimSC wrote: On 20/06/11 15:53, Richard Fairhurst wrote: NopMap wrote: Yeah, sure, I'll just burn some incense, look deep into my crystal ball and guess what everybody has been doing. Why do you need to do that? Why don't you e-mail LWG and say: I think you've been having

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License for OSM tiles

2011-06-20 Thread Grant Slater
On 20 June 2011 10:52, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: Any thoughts? Thread starts here: Best license for future tiles? - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-November/005045.html There are some interesting thoughts bits between the noise. / Grant

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-20 Thread Steve Coast
On 6/18/2011 12:54 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Erik Johansson writes: The Troll word is used so often around in this community that it's hard to speak about courtesy. That's because SteveC uses it on people who don't agree with him. Can you point to an example where I call someone a

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Gehling Marc
Am 20.06.2011 um 14:49 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 06/20/11 12:28, Mitja Kleider wrote: Quoting http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-June/058727.html Michael Collinson wrote: I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the live database since the

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-20 Thread john whelan
Just a comment using the term Troll appears as if it is intended to provoke an emotional response. Surely we should be able to stick to issues and resolve them rather than descend into emotions? Cheerio John On 20 June 2011 11:56, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: On 6/18/2011 12:54 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread TimSC
On 20/06/11 16:33, Steve Coast wrote: I think the LWG is more than well aware that they are imperfect human beings volunteering in a horrible environment to make things better. So, can you point to where LWG itself has explicitly asked for help? Or recognised it's difficulties with

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/06/11 17:47, TimSC wrote: On 20/06/11 16:39, Chris Hill wrote: Maybe part of the reason that these volunteers are working too hard is because some people demand individual attention. Imagine if everyone made their own demands of the LWG ... Are you seriously saying that a handful of

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Jason Cunningham
I think using the word pitiful goes a bit far, but it got the intended response. As someone who spends little time reading through the mailing list I would expected this important step to be very well publicised, and that does not appear to be the case. After reading a few of these emails, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread TimSC
On 20/06/11 18:11, Chris Hill wrote: It seems to me the same issues come up again and again, but never concluded, so it is not necessarily the fault of the person asking the question (or even of the LWG). I suggest that people directly trying to communicate with the LWG is a symptom and not

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Dair Grant
TimSC wrote: I suggest as many tasks as possible be moved into domains were people actually have the skills to help out. Then I suggest you do it, rather than just suggest it. If you believe we need a request for help page on the wiki then there's nothing stopping you from: - Suggesting

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-20 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Steve Coast wrote: On 6/18/2011 12:54 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Erik Johansson writes: The Troll word is used so often around in this community that it's hard to speak about courtesy. That's because SteveC uses it on people who don't agree with him. Can you point to an example

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread TimSC
On 20/06/11 18:35, Dair Grant wrote: TimSC wrote: I suggest as many tasks as possible be moved into domains were people actually have the skills to help out. Then I suggest you do it, rather than just suggest it. Doing things without discussing it might result in bad things

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
trolling ON Stop harassing the poor guys of the LWG. They are just volonteers carrying out orders of the OSMF. And after all: 99.99 % of our community was not addressed. And those who were addressed ...i tiny minority... who cares... they won't bother us no more trolling off Gert

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 video tutorials subtitles

2011-06-20 Thread davespod
groppo otto wrote: I have made subtitles in English and Italian for David Ellams video tutorials [1] [2] with Universal Subtitles. That's great! So far we have English, Italian and Dutch. I hope speakers of a few other tongues rise to the challenge. Cheers David -- View this message in

[OSM-talk] Japan KSJ2 Import

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, is someone on this list involved in OSM in Japan? I'll go to talk-jp with the issue if not, but maybe the right people are reading this here also. I noticed that a lot of data has been imported from a KSJ2 data set, and this data has many tags that I consider unnecessary. The whole

Re: [OSM-talk] Japan KSJ2 Import

2011-06-20 Thread Brad Neuhauser
FYI, the import wiki page is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Japan_KSJ2_Import and there's separate sub-pages for each type of data. It looks like User:Tatata wrote one script being used? On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, is

Re: [OSM-talk] Japan KSJ2 Import

2011-06-20 Thread Shu Higashi
Hi Frederik, I'm a member of OpenStreetMap Japan community. I'll ask the necessity of those tags to the community members. Please give us some time. It would be helpful for us if there are something like norm or guidance for source tag. Because we do not have clear conclusion on how to use

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread SteveC
Tim Chris is trying to gently point out to you, as I was, that you're the one who's sucked up the most LWG time lately and thus making your suggestions on how they sound their time is a bit odd. Ignoring the point isn't helping. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:25, TimSC

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-20 Thread SteveC
I only said +1 for a start, and that was in a thread where you managed to annoy Richard Weait. That's quite a feat. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:43, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Steve Coast wrote: On 6/18/2011 12:54 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Erik Johansson

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread SteveC
Tim An ad hominem attack would be something where you complained about what the LWG spent it's time on and I replied with a comment about your mother. Instead, I replied pointing out that you are in fact the one using most of their time recently. That would be called a rebuttal or perhaps a

[OSM-talk-nl] Droogte rond strand Nulde

2011-06-20 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Alarm, de droogte heeft toegeslagen op het Nuldernauw. Uit onderzoek blijkt dat de Outer multipolygoon niet gesloten is. In de afgelopen 14 dagen zijn PA94, Ligfietser en RBeijer druk geweest om wijzigingen aan te brengen. Zouden jullie er nog eens naar kunnen kijken? Wellicht dat het in het

[OSM-talk-nl] Boeien nederlandse kust

2011-06-20 Thread Erik Oppedijk
Ik ben redelijk ver met alle boeien(ruim 7000) op het water van de noordzee, waddenzee, ijsselmeer, zeeuwse wateren. Een OSM bestand kun je hier vinden: http://www.oppedijk.com/Home/osm (openen in JOSM en de OpenSeaMap style toevoegen toont de meeste boeien in de juiste kleur) Met het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Droogte rond strand Nulde

2011-06-20 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Sorry, Deze mail als niet beschreven beschouwen. Moet eerst na mijn vakantie even alles eerst bijlezen voor ik op dingen reageer. Bedankt Ligfietser voor de correcties. Coastline kan inderdaad wel weken duren. Vorig jaar heb ik een zeehaven bij 'L Estartit Spanje aangepast. Meer dan een maand

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Boeien nederlandse kust

2011-06-20 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Doe je ook iets met de boeien op het binnenwater? Groet Robert From: Erik Oppedijk Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 4:48 PM To: talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk-nl] Boeien nederlandse kust Ik ben redelijk ver met alle boeien(ruim 7000) op het water van de noordzee, waddenzee,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Boeien nederlandse kust

2011-06-20 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Mooi werk! Hoe kom je eigenlijk aan de data? Groet, FLoris 2011/6/20 Erik Oppedijk erik_opped...@hotmail.com: Ik ben redelijk ver met alle boeien(ruim 7000) op het water van de noordzee, waddenzee, ijsselmeer, zeeuwse wateren. Een OSM bestand kun je hier vinden:

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-legal-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Hampson
What about those that haven't bothered to log in and accept or decline the new contributor terms? Looks they too have now been blocked from editing in Potlatch2. Regards, Michael Hampson On 15/06/2011 6:47 AM, John Smith wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-20 Thread Steve Bennett
Hang on, here's Nearmap's statement: All such additions or edits submitted to OSM prior to 17 June 2011 may be held and continue to be used by OSM under the terms in place between OSM and the individual which submitted the addition or edit at the relevant time. And here's Nick's interpretation:

Re: [Talk-br] Importação.

2011-06-20 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
Oi Alexandre, Eu acho que pra fazer o match entre os objetos nas duas bases precisa usar um banco de dados com queries geográficas (tipo POSTGIS) ou uma biblioteca que tenha funçoes equivalentes (tipo GeoTools). - De qualquer maneira, acho dificil que já exista na nossa comunidade uma ferramenta

Re: [Talk-br] Importação.

2011-06-20 Thread Aun Johnsen
Que eu fiz em importaçao do Vitoria, eu convertou o arquivo .dwg para .dxf e convertou os desenhos no cada camada para .osm, depois o importacao dos camadas eu pegei os nomes dos ruas e paredes manualmente do .dwg e entro em JOSM. Eu nao concigui melhor com meus ferramentos. 2011/6/20 Claudomiro

[Talk-br] Duas coisas para ler antes de pensar em importações

2011-06-20 Thread vitor
Oi Pessoal, Nos últimos tempos está havendo um fluxo maior de chegada de novos colaboradores e a tendência é que aumente ainda mais. Creio que todos nós, e principalmente os usuários mais antigos, já pensamos em fazer ou já fizemos uma importação. Geralmente isto acontece porque vemos que uma

Re: [Talk-br] Duas coisas para ler antes de pensar em importações

2011-06-20 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Em particular.. Tenho acesso a muito material para importação, no entanto, não tenho autorização dos proprietários. Só estaria motivado a tentar mais uma vez obter autorização deste material caso fosse possível importar os nomes da vias para o OSM, pois como nunca consegui a autorização para uso

Re: [Talk-de] Radwanderkarte - like Wanderkarte

2011-06-20 Thread André Joost
Am 13.06.11 21:48, schrieb o...@tappenbeck.net: hi! es gibt ja so eine tolle Wanderkarte als Webseite (http://hiking.lonvia.de/de) - gibt es soetwas auch für Radwege bzw. ist in Planung. Es gibt sowas, aber nur auf meinen Rechnern ;-) Hier:

[Talk-de] Radwanderwegenetz Kreis Stormarn / Herzogtum Lauenburg

2011-06-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
hi ! ich habe mal versucht die Relationen der Radwanderwege für die Kreise Stormarn [1] und Herzogtum Lauenburg [2] zusammenzutragen. Eine OSM-Übersicht findet sich unter [3] bzw. [4]. Vielleicht für die mappenden Sommerurlauber im schönen Schleswig-Holstein. (Muss ja einen Grund für die

Re: [Talk-de] Radwanderwegenetz Kreis Stormarn / Herzogtum Lauenburg

2011-06-20 Thread André Joost
Am 20.06.11 08:40, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: hi ! ich habe mal versucht die Relationen der Radwanderwege für die Kreise Stormarn [1] und Herzogtum Lauenburg [2] zusammenzutragen. Eine OSM-Übersicht findet sich unter [3] bzw. [4]. Vielleicht für die mappenden Sommerurlauber im schönen

Re: [Talk-de] Bootsrutsche

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 20. Juni 2011 01:15 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: -1, access ist irreführend, da es eine rechtliche Beschränkung bezeichnet. Bei Punktobjekten in einem Weg wird mit access meist eher die physikalische als die rechtliche Beschränkung beschrieben. Ein nicht passierbares Hindernis

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwegeverlauf und Kartenwerk der Landesvermessung

2011-06-20 Thread bkmap
Am 30.05.2011 09:39, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Hi ! ich hatte heute gerade ein Telefonat mit einem Wegewart für Wanderwege und als er von OSM gehört hat wurde ihm schon anders. Aus allen Ecken wird er nach GPS gefragt etc. und er kommt da personell auch nicht mehr gegen an. Ich hatte gezielt

Re: [Talk-de] Grüne beschilderte Radwege erfassen

2011-06-20 Thread fly
Am 16.06.2011 18:06, schrieb Claudius: Am 16.06.2011 15:26, Torsten Leistikow: Claudius schrieb am 16.06.2011 15:03: Hat sich schon jemand mit der Erfassung ausgeschilderter (Bsp. siehe [1] und [2]) lokaler Radwege beschäftigt? Ich kenne nur die Relationen [3] von denen network=lcn wohl am

[Talk-de] Trainingsgelände und Tribünen

2011-06-20 Thread fly
Hi Habe letzte Woche schon eine Mail an tagging@ geschriben, aber bis jetzt keine Antwort erhalten. Ich habe mehrere Trainingsgelände gefunden, welche aus einigen Übungsplätzen und einem Stadion mit nur ein paar Stehplätzen besteht. Die Plätze sind auch schön mit leisure=pitch, sports=*,

Re: [Talk-de] Trainingsgelände und Tribünen

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 20. Juni 2011 15:18 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Für das Gesamtareal fällt mir nur: landuse/leisure=club_yard operator ist immer ganz OK für das Gesamtareal. Es gibt neu einen Vorschlag für club als Haupttag (mein Vorschlag wäre association), der wohl auf Verein abzielt. Ich

Re: [Talk-de] Trainingsgelände und Tribünen

2011-06-20 Thread Chris66
Am 20.06.2011 15:21, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Ich setze bei größerem Sportgelände meist leisure=stadium für das Gesamtgelände und leisure=pitch für das Spielfeld. leisure=sports_centre geht m.E. auch. Christian ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Trainingsgelände und Tribünen

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 20. Juni 2011 15:32 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 20.06.2011 15:21, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Ich setze bei größerem Sportgelände meist leisure=stadium für das Gesamtgelände und leisure=pitch für das Spielfeld. leisure=sports_centre  geht m.E. auch. +1, oops, das wollte ich

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-20 Thread Manuel Reimer
Walter Nordmann wrote: das kommt halt auf das Umfeld an. Ein gut per Firewall abgeschottetes System @Home ohne Mitbewohner kann ja relativ offen sein; Sind Kids im Haus oder surft der Opa mit, sollte man etwas aufpassen ;) Oder ganz anders: Die Anleitung im Wiki ist eine einzige

Re: [Talk-de] Trainingsgelände und Tribünen

2011-06-20 Thread fly
Am 20.06.2011 15:36, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 20. Juni 2011 15:32 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 20.06.2011 15:21, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Ich setze bei größerem Sportgelände meist leisure=stadium für das Gesamtgelände und leisure=pitch für das Spielfeld.

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 06/20/11 18:23, Manuel Reimer wrote: Zumindest bei mir leuchten dann alle Warnleuchten auf. So wird das auf einem von mir verwalteten Linux-System ganz sicher nicht in Betrieb gehen. Auf einem System ohne Firewall (d.h. jeder offene TCP-Port ist von aussen auch wirklich erreichbar)

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 20. Juni 2011 18:23 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de: Zumindest bei mir leuchten dann alle Warnleuchten auf. So wird das auf einem von mir verwalteten Linux-System ganz sicher nicht in Betrieb gehen. Bei obiger Anleitung ist es total wurscht ob der gisuser ein Superuser ist,

Re: [Talk-de] Rad-/Wanderwege-Logo's im Wiki und auf Karten

2011-06-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! wie diskuttiert habe ich mal bei einem Operator wegen 7 Logos angefragt und eine Rückmeldung bekommen auf die ich nicht weiß wie ich antworten soll. Hier die Antwort: vielen Dank für Ihre Erläuterungen zu Open Street Map. Wir haben in der sogenannten Lenkungsgruppe der Kirchenrouten

Re: [Talk-de] Rad-/Wanderwege-Logo's im Wiki und auf Karten

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/20/11 18:58, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: wie diskuttiert habe ich mal bei einem Operator wegen 7 Logos angefragt und eine Rückmeldung bekommen auf die ich nicht weiß wie ich antworten soll. In welcher Form willst Du die Logos denn veroeffentlichen? Bye Frederik

Re: [Talk-de] Rad-/Wanderwege-Logo's im Wiki und auf Karten

2011-06-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 20.06.2011 19:13, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 06/20/11 18:58, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: wie diskuttiert habe ich mal bei einem Operator wegen 7 Logos angefragt und eine Rückmeldung bekommen auf die ich nicht weiß wie ich antworten soll. In welcher Form willst Du die Logos denn

[Talk-de] VHS Außenstellen taggen // Re: OSM an der VHS - OSM-DVD

2011-06-20 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Hallo Markus, hallo Liste In dem Zusammenhang stellt sich mir die Frage, wie Volkshochschulen und andere Bildungseinrichtungen zu taggen sind. Ich meine, dass dafür nur arts_centre vorgesehen ist, aber wie verfährt man mit Außenstellen, die auch anders genutzt werden (z.B. Gemeinsachftshäuser,

[Talk-de] Q: Tagwatch diachron (Längsschnitt-Statistik)?

2011-06-20 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Hallo, gibt es eigentlich eine API zu Tagwatch (oder so), um einen Zeitverlauf der Häufigkeit eines bestimmten tags im Nachhinein zu erhalten (z.B. für eine Grafik)? (z.B. leisure=playground)? Global und/oder regional? Oder müsste man dafür von Anfang an regelmäßig Daten sammeln (lassen)?

Re: [Talk-de] VHS Außenstellen taggen // Re: OSM an der VHS - OSM-DVD

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 20. Juni 2011 22:32 schrieb RalfGesellensetter r...@gmx.de: Hallo Markus, hallo Liste In dem Zusammenhang stellt sich mir die Frage, wie Volkshochschulen und andere Bildungseinrichtungen zu taggen sind. Ich meine, dass dafür nur arts_centre vorgesehen ist, aber wie verfährt man mit

Re: [Talk-de] Q: Tagwatch diachron (Längsschnitt-Statistik)?

2011-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, RalfGesellensetter wrote: gibt es eigentlich eine API zu Tagwatch (oder so), um einen Zeitverlauf der Häufigkeit eines bestimmten tags im Nachhinein zu erhalten (z.B. für eine Grafik)? Nein. Oder müsste man dafür von Anfang an regelmäßig Daten sammeln (lassen)? Bei Taginfo waere das

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-20 Thread Manuel Reimer
Frederik Ramm wrote: Der Datenbank-Systemuser ist, das sollte hinzugefuegt werden, aus Unix-Sicht auch kein privilegierter Account, d.h. wer auf die Postgres draufkommt, der kann Datenbanken anlegen und loeschen, aber das wars. Besonders viel Geheimnisse wird er nicht ausspionieren koennen aus

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-20 Thread Manuel Reimer
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: vor 5 Mails hattest Du noch geschrieben, dass Du keine Postgresdb brauchst/willst, und nun sorgst Du Dich, dass sich jemand Unauthorisiertes dort als Superuser einloggen könnte und evtl. Daten kaputtmacht? Irgendwie hatte ich in Erinnerung, dass SQL durchaus auch

Re: [Talk-de] Bootsrutsche

2011-06-20 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 20.06.2011 11:04, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 20. Juni 2011 01:15 schrieb Stephan Wolffs.wo...@web.de: -1, access ist irreführend, da es eine rechtliche Beschränkung bezeichnet. Bei Punktobjekten in einem Weg wird mit access meist eher die physikalische als die rechtliche Beschränkung

Re: [Talk-de] Bootsrutsche

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 21. Juni 2011 00:42 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Im Wiki wird foot=yes, bicycle=yes ausdrücklich empfohlen, sonst sei access=no impliziert. foot=yes wird fast 135000 mal für nodes verwendet und meint in fast allen Fällen den physikalischen Zugang. siehs Dir nochmal an, da steht

Re: [Talk-it] mapping party montagna

2011-06-20 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 19 giugno 2011 22:44, ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it ha scritto: Magari potremmo dividerci in due rifugi non troppo distanti l'uno dall'altro in modo da massimizzare l'area della mappatura, potremmo incontrarci poi da qualche parte durante o dopo la mappatura. si anche ma bisogna

[Talk-it] Copyright mappe con più di 15 anni

2011-06-20 Thread Alessio Zanol
Ciao a tutti, ieri mi sono imbattuto in questo http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out_of_copyright#Sweden Riassumendo: in Svezia le mappe sono tutelate per 70 anni, i dati in esse contenuti però non ricadono nella tutela del diritto d'autore bensì nella tutela giuridica delle banche di dati in

Re: [Talk-it] Copyright mappe con più di 15 anni

2011-06-20 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/20 Alessio Zanol nar...@infinito.it: Richard Fairhurst: OSM is hosted in England Wales and OSMF is a company registered in England Wales. That's the ultimate arbiter I'm afraid. Voi che ne pensate? come procediamo? io credo che abbia ragione Richard: il server sta in Inghilterra e

Re: [Talk-co] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Bing aerial imagery priorities

2011-06-20 Thread Federico Explorador (Nevados.org)
Hola Fredy y maper@os: Gracias por este re-envío del mensaje de Steve Coast. Él escribe a t...@openstreetmap.org, o sea al proyecto OSM en su totalidad, con los 192 países que tiene el mundo... Para responder para el caso de Colombia, sería bueno que se haga coordinadamente; es decir, Fredy

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejbredde

2011-06-20 Thread Morten Siebuhr
Heps, 2011/6/20 Niels Elgaard Larsen elga...@agol.dk: Nu hvor vi snart har alle veje med, er jeg begyndt at gøre lidt mere ud af vejenes egenskaber. Jeg har angivet surface på en del veje, men tit er det meget svært at se på Fugro, hvad overfladen er. Opløsningen på Fugro er derimod god nok

Re: [Talk-dk] Specialerapport fra Kort- og landmåler uddannelsen omhandlende OSM

2011-06-20 Thread Ole Laursen
20. jun. 2011 00.44 skrev Niels Elgaard Larsen elga...@agol.dk: I øvrigt er jeg skeptisk over for deres påstand om at Fugro er langt mere præcist end GPS. Jeg har set Fugro-veje som jeg har skønnet til at være 20-25 meter ved siden af. Til gengæld har Fugro den store fordel, at det er ret

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejbredde

2011-06-20 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:00:15 +0200 Claus Hindsgaul claus.hindsg...@gmail.com wrote: Uanset metode, kommer vi i øvrigt nok hurtigt ud i at skulle beslutte, hvad der er med i en vejbredde, hvoraf flere har et dansk tilsnit. Ja, men foreløbigt ville jeg gerne sætte bredden på fx alle de små

Re: [Talk-es] OSM + #15m + Twitter = ...

2011-06-20 Thread jynus
El día 19 de junio de 2011 16:51, Jaume Figueras jaume.figue...@masafi.cat escribió: Hola, Una pregunta.. Que soft haveis utilizado para hacer el vídeo? Es muy complejo? Gracias! Insisto en que no he participado en este proyecto, sólo me preguntaron un día después de la charla. Puedo

Re: [Talk-ar] openstreetmap.org.ar

2011-06-20 Thread Werner Horsch
Voto por la página local, mi respuesta completa en el foro Pertile El mapa de Garmin lo tenes en la página y en el foro para descargar, ahora ya aparecen los POIs con la última versión del compilador Argenos está trabajando en una correción para q funcione la busqueda en forma local (AR) ya vi un

Re: [Talk-cz] Nová cyklomapa

2011-06-20 Thread hanoj
pro účely PrahouNaKole.cz jsem se rozhodl vylepšit renderer MTB mapy tak, aby kreslil všechny důležité prvky cyklistické infrastruktury a další věci důležité pro městskou cyklistiku. *** urcite vyborna aktivita, pekny posun. OCM stoji na miste a jeji vyvoj je problem.    2. MTB stezky naopak

Re: [Talk-cz] Nová cyklomapa

2011-06-20 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Petr Dlouhý píše v Ne 19. 06. 2011 v 10:35 +0200: kostky(surface=cobblestone Na tomto tagu je třeba ještě hodně zapracovat. Mám takový pocit, že většina ulic na Starém a Novém Městě Pražském je vydlážděna. Existuje nějaký tag, který by říkal, že např. náplavka na Rašínově nábřeží je sice

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