Re: [Talk-GB] Potential Vandalism - AGAIN

2012-08-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
+1 for blocking Have contacted islandtoerag about silly edits in Southampton, no response. Time to block this destructive yob. Nick -David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Date: 18/08/2012 06:31PM Subject:

Re: [Talk-GB] (Olympics) Gold postbox map - credits missing? add to metadata on tagged postboxes?

2012-08-07 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, I noticed a few days ago that the royal mail has made a map of the postboxes they've painted gold (just temporarily?) for this Olympics. Quite nicely, they use OSM, but they don't (obviously? at all?) credit OSM: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ Hi Neil, This has come up before on the talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Meetup - Botley - 24/07/12 - NEW DATE

2012-07-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
OK. Incidentally regarding finding missing Hampshire footpaths using the council data, I have a site which overlays Hampshire ROW data on OSM: http://www.free-map.org.uk/hampshire/?[lat=lon=...] e.g. http://www.free-map.org.uk/hampshire/?lon=-1.25lat=50.92 Shows up a few footpaths near

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Party - Manchester

2012-07-17 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I might be interested depending on the date - missing SOTM for the first time this year, not because of the distance (I quite fancy seeing Japan) but because it's difficult to get a lot of time of work in September. Would be good to have some sort of big OSM meetup locally (as in Western

Re: [Talk-GB] How to work with Government Open Data (e.g. Boundaries, Rights of Way)

2012-06-16 Thread Nick Whitelegg
What I wouldn't personally like is a mess where the Hampshire ROW line *and* the line on the ground are *both* in OSM. This would make the data messy and confusing to work with. In cases like this maybe the ROW has, to all intents and purposes, shifted and the Hampshire data is out-of-date.

[Talk-GB] Working with the HCC rights of way data

2012-06-16 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, As promised I've put together a summary blog post on how I produced OpenHants (simple site overlying the Hampshire rights-of-way data on a kothic-js based OSM map), this can be found at: http://www.free-map.org.uk/wordpress/?p=247 Nick ___

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Specific Cases of Governments Using OSM

2012-06-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
This is not HCC doing something with OSM - this is HCC releasing their rights-of-way data under an open licence. The link provided is my own mash-up of OSM and HCC data. Nick -Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: - To: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com From: Gregory

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenHants - doing something with the Hants CC data in the meantime

2012-06-14 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Rob, Sorry for the late reply on this. Basically how it works is: - the shapefile was converted to Postgres SQL using shp2pgsql; - the data was imported into a PostGIS database; - some custom code (actually same underlying code as Freemap) was written to fetch data as GeoJSON from the

[Talk-GB] Response from Hampshire County Council

2012-06-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Re: the Hampshire ROW data - this is the response I got from the person I am in contact with. In answer to the queries below, the data is free to use as is the OS open data on their website. The data was originally captured against the 10k raster data, meaning it carried OS

Re: [Talk-GB] Response from Hampshire County Council

2012-06-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Gregory, The quotes are used to quote the email. So the 'so in summary...' bit is mine and the 'so in short' is theirs. Nick -Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: - To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk From: Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com Date: 11/06/2012 02

Re: [Talk-GB] Follow up : Hampshire Rights of Way Data released under OS OpenData licence

2012-06-08 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Rob, (and all) I've emailed the Hants CC guy once - he was away so the email bounced. I've emailed him again tonight. Nick -Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org, nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk, legal-t...@openstreetmap.org From: Rob

[Talk-GB] OpenHants - doing something with the Hants CC data in the meantime

2012-06-08 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, While waiting for the decision as to whether we should use the Hants CC data, I've started work on a small side-project OpenHants which overlays the Hants CC footpath data as a separate layer on top of a kothic-js rendered OSM map (basically same server side code as for Freemap). Footpaths

Re: [Talk-GB] Unclassified Country Road (UCR)

2012-06-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
(UCRs) While we're on this topic actually, I notice that West Sussex has started signing these Public Way. Not public byway, or public bridleway, but just plain public way - you can tell them because formerly there was no waymarking at all. Nick

[Talk-GB] Hampshire Rights of Way Data released under OS OpenData licence

2012-05-31 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Some good news! As from yesterday, Hampshire County Council have released their Rights of Way data under the OS OpenData licence. Details here: http://www3.hants.gov.uk/communications/mediacentre/mediareleases.htm?newsid=534104 Slippy map, and downloadable raw data (shp or kml

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Rights of Way Data released under OS OpenData licence

2012-05-31 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hence, unfortunately, I don't think we can use the Hampshire data (going forward under ODbL) unless we get explicit permission from the copyright holders. For the maps, this would presumably mean both the council and OS. It's a real pain that OS felt it necessary to fork the Open Government

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW Ref codes (WAS:Hampshire Rights of Way Data released under OS OpenData licence)

2012-05-31 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I guess the thing to do is just use the most common reference. I am aware of several schemes: Hampshire uses parish plus number e.g. Tichborne Footpath 5, West Sussex uses a county-wide, 3 or 4 digit number (e.g. 1263, 2005) and I've also seen XXX/YY (in Wrexham borough, Wales) and very

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Sorry but I do have to say this. In an area (UK outside of Scotland) where sadly, you're not free to roam where you like, access rights are *absolutely vital detail* for walkers and other users of the countryside and indicating them explicitly where known, either via designation, or

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
People map to the level of detail they're comfortable with, and that's a strength not a weakness. Legal designations, access rights and surface type are pointless detail to a new mapper. Sorry but I do have to say this. In an area (UK outside of Scotland) where sadly, you're not free to roam

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals

2012-05-03 Thread Nick Whitelegg
P.S. Please don't yawn in your emails, it's rude. Seconded. There's no need for this sort of disrespectful rudeness and sarcasm on this list. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Nick Whitelegg
On 02/05/12 16:41, Nick Whitelegg wrote: One project goal might be to consolidate the various scattered information on the wiki describing how to map RoWs in the first place. Come up with *one* consensus approach. We seem to be settling on designation=* + highway={foot,cycle,bridle}way

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-02 Thread Nick Whitelegg
One project goal might be to consolidate the various scattered information on the wiki describing how to map RoWs in the first place. Come up with *one* consensus approach. We seem to be settling on designation=* + highway={foot,cycle,bridle}way, by the looks of it (full disclosure; it's the

Re: [Talk-GB] Permissive paths and uncrecorded rights of way

2012-04-26 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I have used suspected=orpa for one or two of these in Hampshire. By doing this you're not stating it's a right of way, but on the other hand you are adding additional information which means it's *more likely to be* a right of way than a random path through private land used as an informal

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of Way Tagging [Was Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?]

2012-04-22 Thread Nick Whitelegg
We probably shouldn't be using ORPA in OSM as this is an OS-specific term, that AFAIK only exists on their maps. I'm not so sure. In Hampshire in particular there are large numbers of tracks which obviously have public access (e.g. footpaths end on them, evidence of frequent foot/horse use)

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?

2012-04-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'm up for it. Finding enough to sustain a mapping party might be difficult (South Hants is more or less road and footpath complete) but we could make it a social. Anyone else interested? Andy Yes, I'd be interested. Robert - I'm aware of you via 'robbieonsea' edits (usually in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?

2012-04-16 Thread Nick Whitelegg
It is a bit early though, they're normally late April/Early May. I have seen a few this year though. I guess the warm March and cold, wet April must confuse a fair few things, though it seems a good one for blossom. The colder weather seems to have put a brake on the over-advanced development

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?

2012-04-14 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Maybe we should organize an East Hampshire OSM people (maybe for a pub walk / or mapping party ) get together some time this summer - it would be great to meet AndyS, NickW and any other like minded individuals. I'm up for it. Finding enough to sustain a mapping party might be difficult

[Talk-GB] Anyone else had GPS problems today?

2012-04-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Had some quite extraordinary problems trying to get a GPS signal this afternoon in the Fisherstreet area, on the Surrey/W Sussex border a few miles SE of Haslemere. Between around 1300 and 1400 BST I could get no signal whatsoever. I lost the signal in a wooded area around 1255 BST and then

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?

2012-03-29 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Andy's aware of it. Could be zealotry or an honest mistake by an inexperienced mapper... that or someone's used it as a nuclear test site :-) Nick -Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com Date: 29/03/2012

[Talk-GB] Remapping ways without nodes (was: Re: Remapping update)

2012-03-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
On 23 March 2012 12:58, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Incidentally, is just knowing the footpaths evidence enough to tag with odbl=clean? Or is there the risk that the footpath was created with iffy sources? While we're on this topic, could I urge all of those working

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping ways without nodes (was: Re: Remapping update)

2012-03-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
While we're on this topic, could I urge all of those working on Andy Street's area to remap all constituent nodes of a way, rather than just the way itself, I've come across at least 3 users who have re-constructed ways but left Andy's nodes intact. I'd have thought that remapping the ways

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I ask as I am intending to do some remapping of Andy Street's paths in the Bishops Waltham/Meon Valley area and wondering whether I have to actually walk the paths again or just tag with odbl=clean You don't have to walk the path if you can map it using other techniques, such as GPS traces,

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Incidentally, is just knowing the footpaths evidence enough to tag with odbl=clean? Or is there the risk that the footpath was created with iffy sources? I ask as I am intending to do some remapping of Andy Street's paths in the Bishops Waltham/Meon Valley area and wondering whether I have to

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

2012-03-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'm trying to do footpaths as and when, but it'll be a slow process as I've got quite a lot of other things on my plate at the moment. I've done a few round Bishops Waltham and the Meon Valley, and may well do more this weekend, but I'd welcome any other contributions as there is no way I am

[Talk-GB] New, kothic-js version of Freemap

2012-03-19 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, As from yesterday (March 18th) the default version of Freemap (www.free-map.org.uk; UK OSM-based countryside mapping site) has become the kothic-js based 0.6. As well as client-side rendering using kothic-js, the new version features * Ability to add annotations to the map (as before)

[Talk-GB] Anyone up for a Hampshire footpaths remapping after the clocks go on?

2012-03-02 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, As I've said before there is quite a major problem with Hampshire rights of way post-licence-change, due to the fact that very large numbers of footpaths in mid-Hampshire were contributed by a declining former mapper, Andy Street, and they will be deleted. Since this is my

Re: [Talk-GB] United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines on the OSM wiki: due for an update?

2012-02-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I think both have their advantages - I like the idea of a good signposted rights of way network, but I intensely dislike the Anglo-American attitude towards private property compared to say Scotland or Germany (naming two countries I've walked in where they seem to be more easy-going) On the

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM presets for rights of way in England and Wales

2012-02-07 Thread Nick Whitelegg
3. Re-marking countryside source=npe stuff traced by people (normally back in OSM history before highway=path was invented). Because OS New Popular Edition maps were made before rights of way were codified, it's impossible to tell if a dotted line on the old map is a bridleway or a footpath - or

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM presets for rights of way in England and Wales

2012-02-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
--- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines#JOSM_presets_now_available Comments on these presets and how they might be improved are welcome! I may have not been reading this list thoroughly but I did not realise that highway=path is a vexed issue. I have

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM presets for rights of way in England and Wales

2012-02-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
This is a somewhat contentious issue, but all I can say is that this is precisely what I do and several others. Remember to also use the designation tag to specify the rights, public_footpath / public_bridleway / byway_open_to_all_traffic etc. highway is generally taken to indicate the physical

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

2012-01-10 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'd just like to add that one of the top contributors down as declined is actually undecided due to Ordnance Survey OpenData compatibility concerns, not sure why he's down as declined, whether that was a mistake on his part. I've emailed him to get him to decide one way or the other, but as I

[Talk-GB] Reminder: Llangollen Mapping from Monday

2011-12-31 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Just a reminder that I will be in the Llangollen area, North Wales, from Monday 2nd Jan (11.30am) until late afternoon Thursday 5th if anyone fancies any new year mapping / walking to work off Christmas over-eating :-) Please sign up on the wiki page

[Talk-GB] kothic-js demo with LandForm Panorama contours on Freemap

2011-12-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, Over Christmas I've been knocking together a demo which uses kothic-js client side rendering for Freemap, incorporating LandForm PANORAMA contours. You can see it at http://www.free-map.org.uk/0.6/; full details on the blog post at http://www.free-map.org.uk/wordpress/?p=221. It's best

[Talk-GB] Llangollen Mapping -North Wales - January 2nd-5th

2011-12-22 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, I've mentioned this before, but have actually booked some accommodation now so it's definitely happening. I'm staying in the Llangollen area of North Wales for a few days in the new year, from Monday January 2 to Thursday January 5, aiming to do some walking and mapping. It's a hilly and

[Talk-GB] LandForm Panorama + VectorMap District tiles available from dev server

2011-12-19 Thread Nick Whitelegg
As I posted a month or two ago I have prepared some tiles containing Vector Map District raster tiles overlaid with LandForm Panorama contours. For the past two months or so they have been available as a slippy map on Freemap (http://www.free-map.org.uk/vmd/). However, they are taking a huge

Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire 2012 - map the county's footpaths

2011-12-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
(I'm also keen BTW to deal with a possible licencing issue here. A long-standing contributor has mapped many footpaths in Hampshire already but has not signed up to the CTs. Naturally I'm keen not to see all his hard work lost, and TBH, while I'm licence-neutral, I've got better things

Re: [Talk-GB] Retour de l'autoroute britannique

2011-12-08 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Yes indeed. Just looked at Fernhurst, W Sussex for instance. The place is absolutely crawling with non-existent roads. Seems anything tagged with highway=track in OSM would qualify as a road in that... Nick -Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: - To: talk-gb OSM List

[Talk-GB] Hampshire 2012 - map the county's footpaths

2011-12-08 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, 2012 could be the year in which we complete, or almost complete, all the rights of way in some English counties. One likely target is my local county - Hampshire. OSM road coverage of many parts of the UK is virtually complete in many areas, but footpaths are still lagging

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
. Seriously tempted to give it a play. Nick -Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: - To: d...@openstreetmap.org From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: 01/12/2011 01:42PM Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS? Nick Whitelegg wrote: It's certainly

[Talk-GB] Anyone interested in participating in a distributed Freemap?

2011-11-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Thought I'd email this as I have some thoughts as to how Freemap (free-map.org.uk; countryside-orientated mapping for UK users) could operate without excessive demands on a single server. Basically, I'm wondering if anyone has unused server space/bandwidth allowances who might

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone interested in participating in a distributed Freemap?

2011-11-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
to donate money of course. Nick -Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: - To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk From: Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk Date: 24/11/2011 03:01PM Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone interested in participating

[Talk-GB] New Year outdoor mapping idea - Llangollen, North Wales

2011-11-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, I have a week I can take off immediately after new year, so was wondering whether anyone would be interested in a countryside-orientated mapping party then. I know it's not the ideal time of year for outdoor events, but I thought starting the new year with a mapping party

[Talk-GB] Downloading OOC tiles from an app

2011-11-03 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, Not sure who maintains the out-of-copyright stuff, but I thought I'd best ask this in the light of recent discussions. I am developing an Android app OpenTrail - which amongst other things shows tiles from Freemap (my own) plus out-of-copyright tiles from ooc.openstreetmap.org. I have

Re: [Talk-GB] Doodle: OpenStreetMap Brighton mapping party

2011-10-31 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Anyone else got opinions on the date? We could go for a two day mapping party? I might be interested depending on the type of mapping. Not so interested in addressing etc, but if it's road surveying/naming I'd be tempted. ATM can do any weekend except 12/13th. Nick

[Talk-GB] [Semi-OT] affordable hosting for own tileserver?

2011-10-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Thought it would be a good time to ask about this as the whole topic of running your own OSM tileserver has come up a lot lately. Am wanting to develop Freemap (coubtryside-orientated OSM site) and its mobile client, OpenTrail, further but the thing that's always holding me back, and forcing

[Talk-GB] Freemap-VMD : OpenData plus OSM footpaths

2011-10-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, Did an initial experiment with this a while back but now I've extended the area of coverage to include much of England and all of Wales. Anyway, Freemap-VMD (working title) is a combination of VectorMap District raster tiles, LandForm PANORAMA contours and rights of way and permissive

Re: [Talk-GB] Freemap-VMD : OpenData plus OSM footpaths

2011-10-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, Did an initial experiment with this a while back but now I've extended the area of coverage to include much of England and all of Wales. [snip] Oops - forgot the URL! http://www.free-map.org.uk/vmd/ Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] The daily Greater London

2011-10-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
-Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: - Hi,     just a quick note that (because some people were asking) I've now added a daily Greater London .osm.pbf/.shp.zip to http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/great_britain/england/ This includes, somewhat incorrectly I guess, the

[Talk-GB] Tiled osm2pgsql import?

2011-10-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Related to the ongoing discussion on talk, and given the large memory requirements of osm2pgsql imports, has anyone published a tiled import script, where the import area is broken into say degree tiles, and each tile imported as a separate osm2pgsql job? If not, I'm inclined to do one myself

Re: [Talk-GB] Tiled osm2pgsql import?

2011-10-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
- Related to the ongoing discussion on talk, and given the large memory requirements of osm2pgsql imports, has anyone published a tiled import script, where the import area is broken into say degree tiles, and each tile imported as a separate osm2pgsql job? If not, I'm inclined to do one

[Talk-GB] Dunsfold/Chiddingfold Footpaths Party, Surrey, Sat 22nd Oct

2011-10-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, There will be a footpaths orientated mapping party in the Dunsfold and Chiddingfold area, S Surrey, on Saturday October 22nd. Surrey is mostly complete - even footpaths - but there is still a big gap in this area. Details here:

[Talk-GB] Footpaths mapping party: Dunsfold area, Surrey

2011-09-30 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Partly following on from the recent Shere mapping party, I'd like to hold a footpaths mapping party in the Dunsfold area of Surrey sometime in the next month, before the evenings get too dark. I'm extending to the first weekend in November but after that it really will be

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey Hills Mapping Party, Sunday September 25th

2011-09-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi 80n, Sorry I'm missing this - but I just arrived back from Colorado yesterday and have had a family occasion too, so consequently a bit tired! Would be good to know of any missing footpaths still in that area though after today - am looking for an excuse to do some in-fill Surrey footpath

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monarch's way distributed mapping party Saturday October 8th

2011-08-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Could this be distributed to other parts of the UK I wonder? The Monarch's Way passes near me, we could probably do something down south too. Nick -SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk Date:

Re: [Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question...

2011-08-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
From: Steve Dobson st...@dobbo.org To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 20 August, 2011 16:44:45 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question... Nick On 20/08/11 14:52, Phil Endecott wrote: Nick Whitelegg wrote: Around Easter

Re: [Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question...

2011-08-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
[snip] Someone suggested the definitive map, maybe I'll see if the relevant council (it's not my local one) has an online map and verify it with that. As it happens, the problem seems to have gone away. Since I originally surveyed the track, the designation tag has been removed by an

[Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question...

2011-08-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Had an experience yesterday which raises an interesting legal question. Around Easter 2010, IIRC, I surveyed what appeared to be a footpath in good faith: the footpath sign appeared to point down a gravel track across a field. Yesterday, as part of another mapping expedition, I followed said

Re: [Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question...

2011-08-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
To: Nick Whitelegg nick_whitel...@yahoo.co.uk From: Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu Date: 20/08/2011 11:23AM Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org, legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] To delete or not to delete, that is the question... On 20/08/11 11:11, Nick Whitelegg wrote: This does

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse polygons created by TimSC: delete them?

2011-06-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I don't normally get involved in licencing stuff, but I disagree with unnecessary data destruction. While I have accepted the CTs, and to be honest don't care one way or the other about ODBL, CC, etc I would urge most strongly that this is *not* done. Tim is a decent guy and has

Re: [Talk-GB] Onward travel posters

2011-06-10 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Though having re-read your post, the incorrect attribution is really bad. Don't think my local one had that otherwise I'd have probably noticed but will check next time I'm there. Nick -Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent Date

Re: [Talk-GB] Tracks and there place in society

2011-05-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
So if you wanted a map that highlights byways, you'd just need to make sure that the stylesheet noticed those tags and chose the rendering occasionally. I _think_ Nick W's Freemap does this already. Personally I think it's fairly unlikely for either Mapnik or Osmarender, because they're worldwide

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Tracks and there place in society

2011-05-22 Thread Nick Whitelegg
The problem is having highway=bridleway with highway=track.  Now as Richard B said there is now the designation tag so highway=track and designation=public bridleway can be done.  However this isn't rendered either at all, or if it were would clash and not render correctly (brown dash for

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Ben's Consise Compendium of OSM issues - Tracks and there place in society

2011-05-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Very basically this is all a problem becuase highway=track and highway=bridleway/byway/footway cannot both be tagged together.  They need to be understood and moved, or duplicated into 'routes' or another key to state access.   Having them together any longer will knock 10 years off my life,

Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions

2011-05-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I have PHP code to do this, it was based on the JEEPS C library. It's available http://www.free-map.org.uk/svn/freemap/lib/latlong.php Also available is Jcoord, JScoord and PHPcoord from Jonathan Stott (www.jstott.me.uk/jcoord). Note this is GPL, not LGPL, and therefore can only be used in

Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions

2011-05-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Actually just realised this is a dodgy svn version with bugs, it's not my current production version. It won't work because some of the associative array fields are called 'long' not 'lon'. I'll try and update this later. Nick -Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Nick Whitelegg
To me, the most significant thing about that map is that it demonstrates how vast swathes of the UK have almost no footpath data at all. True, it shows how the paths are nicely concentrated in the south-east, the Manchester area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Thanks for the suggestion. Take a look at this one which I hope does roughly what you have asked for with the exception that I have coloured 'other designations' with a off-yellow (as used for unrecognised values in other map views) and I have added grey for paths with no designation. Grey

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Can do. Is this a separate value/colour or is it an alias for another value? If it is a separate colour then what colour would you suggest? I use it for full byways (rather than restricted) but others might use it for other things. Maybe in view of what Robert said it's best they're re-tagged

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Peter, I would say the most important thing with official rights of way is to tag them with designation=public_footpath, public_bridleway, public_byway or restricted_byway (as appropriate). The designation tag is AFAIK generally regarded these days as the most definitive indication of

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-04 Thread Nick Whitelegg
-Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com Date: 04/05/2011 06:07PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths This is a very interesting discussion. I've been walking and then adding footpaths north of High

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Contributor Terms vs OS OpenData Licence

2011-04-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'd just like some clarification on this. I have contributed a very, very small amount of data via OS OpenData (Haslemere and Andover IIRC but such a small amount that it won't take long to re-survey - feel free to delete any nickw edits in those areas with source=OS Open Data) but being such

[Talk-GB] Tagging areas with paid access

2011-04-10 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, Near me there are a couple of areas with paid access only - Marwell Zoo and Exbury Gardens. Original tagging for the latter is foot=permissive which seems inappropriate as you have to pay to get in, and foot=permissive suggests completely open access. What would others do in this

Re: [Talk-GB] Publishing Self-Devised Walks

2011-04-10 Thread Nick Whitelegg
There are also sites like Nick Whitelegg's Freemap which are aiming to integrate the sort of information walkers are interested in sharing. Depending on other commitments/level of interest, I could do some more work on Freemap regarding this. At the moment, on Freemap, you can

Re: [Talk-GB] Publishing Self-Devised Walks

2011-04-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Dan, There is Freemap which allows you to store your own walks, it does use OSM ways but stores them locally. It doesn't use relations. Not sure what other peoples thoughts would be but I'd guess storing them in OSM itself would clutter up the database and it's best stored elsewhere.

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes with Public Access

2011-03-24 Thread Nick Whitelegg
What has been questioned is whether the information that a particular path has that designation has come from a legitimate unencumbered source .that we are able to use or whether it has come from sources which are subject to copyright and/or database right and which hence should not have been

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Route with Public Access (ORPA)

2011-03-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
As far as I know, ORPA is a term invented by Ordnance survey to describe and mark some unclassified roads that might otherwise appear to be private tracks on their maps. These are routes that aren't one of the designated public rights of way (footpath, bridleway, byway, restricted byway), but are

Re: [Talk-GB] LandForm Panorama + VectorMap District + OSM Footpaths : Method

2011-03-19 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Answering myself, the following seems to work: CREATE TABLE contours (gid serial PRIMARY KEY, height double precision); SELECT AddGeometryColumn('', 'contours', 'way', '27700', 'LINESTRING', 2); Yes that should work, or just CREATE TABLE contours (gid serial PRIMARY KEY, height int, way

Re: [Talk-GB] LandForm Panorama + VectorMap District + OSM Footpaths : Method

2011-03-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
-Phil Endecott spam_from_os...@chezphil.org wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Phil Endecott spam_from_os...@chezphil.org Date: 18/03/2011 02:12PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] LandForm Panorama + VectorMap District + OSM Footpaths : Method Hi Nick, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Have

[Talk-GB] LandForm Panorama + VectorMap District + OSM Footpaths : Method

2011-03-17 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Have put up a wiki page detailing how the 'pseudo-Landranger' map at http://www.free-map.org.uk/expts/vmdlfp200/ was created... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/VMD_plus_LFP_plus_OSM Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] OS VectorMap District with LandForm Panorama contours overlay

2011-03-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I had a meeting with OS on Thursday, where they seemed to think the 1st April would see the next release of VectorMap District. I'm going to render the whole country in the mean time (will take a few days) and work out what all the problems are, then see what's fixed in April. Good; I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] OS VectorMap District with LandForm Panorama contours overlay

2011-03-13 Thread Nick Whitelegg
for top posting btw, in a bit of a rush and my mail client isn't terribly compliant towards quoting conventions... Nick -Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk Date: 12/03/2011 12:24PM Subject: [Talk

[Talk-GB] OS VectorMap District with LandForm Panorama contours overlay

2011-03-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, I've managed to produce a slippy VectorMap District map with LandForm Panorama contours overlay at http://www.free-map.org.uk/expts/vmdlfp200/ Only covers a 20km x 100km section of southern England at the moment. Next stage will be to overlay OSM rights of way on the map. Will write up a

Re: [Talk-GB] OS and OSM

2011-03-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi Steve, I have been asked by editor of the Cartographic Journal to write a short piece on the effect of the release of OS OpenData on the OpenStreetMap project, and I am just trying to gather my thoughts, and make sure I cover all bases. [snip] Not sure how relevant this is but I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Viability of huge shapefile of LandForm Panorama contours in Mapnik?

2011-03-06 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Graham, Nick, This has been on my list of things to do for a while too, Same with me, but it's never been the no.1 priority, hence it's never really seen the light of day yet. Maybe the next rainy weekend we get I'll do a concentrated push at it... but like many of my project ideas,

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-02 Thread Nick Whitelegg
The main problem with the wiki page is that it didn't distinguish between an official public footpath and a way which is there on the ground, but has no known designation or right of way status.  (Or else the page just didn't cover that case, even though it is by far the most common.) Again this

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: On 1 March 2011 14:00, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: At risk of opening this discussion again ... You do need some way to distinguish between official and unofficial rights of way though. Nick, we do

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
eetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb The great strength of OSM is that it can be a platform for many (and hopefully more to come) applications written by people all round the world. Country-specific tagging guidelines make it more difficult to share applications with the rest of the world. I'm not so

Re: [Talk-GB] Wiki - United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I think foot=designated should *only* be used where you have definite evidence of a pedestrian right of way. Or am I confusing foot=designated with designation=public_footpath?  The latter is what I have used until now for public footpaths, and seems unambiguous enough that it won't get tagged

[Talk-GB] OpenTrail: new Android OSM project for walkers

2011-03-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hi, In case anyone might be interested I just thought I'd announce an initial version of OpenTrail, which aims to become an Android OSM app for walkers and hikers. At the moment it's pretty basic, but I thought I'd announce it now in case anyone's interested in either the project or in

[Talk-GB] A way of getting more footpaths done? - tagged track segments

2011-02-15 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Some of the comments on the Android apps thread over on talk got me thinking about approaches to try and get more of the UK rights of way network done, particularly by contributors who may not wish to use a full scale editor. Was thinking of a two stage approach, involving a relatively non

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData contours

2011-02-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Nick, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Am interested in using the OS OpenData contour set for an augmented reality app for walkers (extension of the OpenTrailView idea). What I have in mind is to load them into a database and implement a lookup facility where the elevation at a particular lat/lon can

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