Hello Achdut18,
> Created: viernes, 17 de abril de 2020, 17:54:08 (Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:54:08
> -0500)
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Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain)
Using The Bat! Version 9.4.2.1 (64-bit)
Current version is 9.1.18 |
Title: Re: TLS Handshake and Certificate problems
Thomas and others,
While all of the talk re the value of using a Beta version of TB! or the lack thereof is mildly interesting to those who use beta versions, would you please post further e-mails on that topic under a new subject heading
I would like to return to the main subject. Is there yet a confirmed fix
for the error message and the failure of The Bat to send e-mail from a
gmail domain? If so, what is it? There has been a lot of technical
jargon about changing command line parameters or adding certain text to a
4/17/2020 3:50 PM
Hi Thomas,
On 4/16/2020 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF> Yes, as I said: It is the exception. The exception does not make it a
TF> rule though. If I were you, I would not use beta versions with my
TF> clients, but that's your decision. I would test the new releases
TF> myself
Hello Paul,
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 10:59:28 -0400 GMT (16-Apr-20, 21:59 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:
> 4/16/2020 10:41 AM
> Hi Thomas,
> On 4/15/2020 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF>> Hello Paul,
TF>> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:17:14 -0400 GMT (15-Apr-20, 22:17 +0700 GMT),
TF>> Paul Van Noord
4/16/2020 10:41 AM
Hi Thomas,
On 4/15/2020 Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF> Hello Paul,
TF> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:17:14 -0400 GMT (15-Apr-20, 22:17 +0700 GMT),
TF> Paul Van Noord wrote:
> There will have been a reason for that, don't you think?
Isn't the Beta usually taken down when
Hello Andrew,
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 20:11:14 +0930 GMT (16-Apr-20, 17:41 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>> This is getting off-topic. Anyway, I am not a beta tester for Windows,
>> and the update is automatic. I am not following the Win10 version
>> numbers and never had a desire to go back
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, April 16, 2020, 7:54:41 PM, you wrote:
> This is getting off-topic. Anyway, I am not a beta tester for Windows,
> and the update is automatic. I am not following the Win10 version
> numbers and never had a desire to go back to any beta version before
> the release version
Hello Andrew,
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:23:49 +0930 GMT (16-Apr-20, 16:53 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> Thursday, April 16, 2020, 10:40:58 AM, you wrote:
>> There is never a reason for someone who is not a beta tester to
>> download any beta version.
>> Once the release
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, April 16, 2020, 10:40:58 AM, you wrote:
> There is never a reason for someone who is not a beta tester to
> download any beta version.
> Once the release version is out, there is no need to revert back to a
> beta version.
Those are rather broad statements.
> Message
Hello Paul,
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:17:14 -0400 GMT (15-Apr-20, 22:17 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:
There will have been a reason for that, don't you think?
>>> Isn't the Beta usually taken down when Ritlabs issues a new Beta
>>> or release version?
TF>> That's correct. It has become
Hello Paul,
> There have been multiple occasions in the past where a given beta caused
> problems for me requiring me to go to a previous version. This is why I
> keep copies of all acceptable betas. "Latest and greatest" are not
> synonymous!
While I see your point and kind of a agree
4/15/2020 11:15 AM
Hi Thomas,
>> On Tuesday 14 April 2020 at 12:43:19 PM, in
>> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-
>>> There will have been a reason for that, don't you think?
>> Isn't the Beta usually taken down when Ritlabs issues a new Beta
>> or release version?
TF> That's correct. It has become
Hello MFPA,
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:26:49 +0100 GMT (14-Apr-20, 22:26 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 April 2020 at 12:43:19 PM, in
> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-
>> There will have been a reason for that, don't you think?
> Isn't the Beta usually taken down when Ritlabs issues a new
Hi
On Tuesday 14 April 2020 at 12:43:19 PM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-
> There will have been a reason for that, don't you think?
Isn't the Beta usually taken down when Ritlabs issues a new Beta
or release version?
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MFPA
Hello Thomas,
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:08:09 +0700 GMT (13-Apr-20, 23:08 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF>>> Anyway, I have never used command line parameters. I just added that
TF>>> parameter in the shortcut (with and without blank after ...exe) but
TF>>> Windows complains. What should I
Hello Andrew,
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 21:03:04 +0930 GMT (14-Apr-20, 18:33 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>> Good to hear. Don't download from unauthrotised sites.
[...]
> v8.8.9.12 files were removed from RT's website, that is the only reason I
> have provided those links.
There will have
Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 7:57:55 PM, you wrote:
> Good to hear. Don't download from unauthrotised sites.
Generally good advice, however in this case it would be prudent to
actually look at the content.
> Here are the release versions:
>
Hello Luca,
Tuesday, April 14, 2020, 7:50:31 PM, you wrote:
> It won't work! A new 8.x release should be issued to solve the problem. I
> cannot see any on the beta list.
Ah, that was a thread re. TLS issues. Pardon.
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A
Current
Hello Luca,
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:20:31 +0200 GMT (14-Apr-20, 17:20 +0700 GMT),
Luca via TBUDL wrote:
> Andrew Savchenko:
>> Hello Paul,
>>
>> Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:43:01 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> >>> I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could
>> >>> downgrade
>> >>>
Andrew Savchenko:
> Hello Paul,
>
> Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:43:01 AM, you wrote:
>
> >>> I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could
> >>> downgrade
> >>> and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature.
>
> S>> I wholeheartedly agree!
> S>> The customization, where
Hello Thomas,
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:08:09 +0700 GMT (13-Apr-20, 23:08 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF>>> Anyway, I have never used command line parameters. I just added that
TF>>> parameter in the shortcut (with and without blank after ...exe) but
TF>>> Windows complains. What should I
Hello David,
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:57:44 -0600 GMT (13-Apr-20, 22:57 +0700 GMT),
David Shepherd wrote:
> Monday, April 13, 2020, 9:39:36 AM, you wrote:
TF>> Anyway, I have never used command line parameters. I just added that
TF>> parameter in the shortcut (with and without blank after ...exe)
Monday, April 13, 2020, 9:39:36 AM, you wrote:
TF> Anyway, I have never used command line parameters. I just added that
TF> parameter in the shortcut (with and without blank after ...exe) but
TF> Windows complains. What should I do?
Hello Thomas,
This one worked for me:
"C:\Program
Hello MFPA,
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:41:35 +0100 GMT (13-Apr-20, 20:41 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:
> On Sunday 12 April 2020 at 3:39:44 AM, in
> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-
>> Interesting, because my error message mentions avast:
>>>[...]
>>>12-Apr-20, 09:31:04: FETCH - Issuer: generated by
>>>avast!
Hello MFPA,
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:48:02 +0100 GMT (13-Apr-20, 21:48 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:
> On Monday 13 April 2020 at 2:41:35 PM, in
> , MFPA wrote:-
> Never mind what else I wrote. I have a gmail account I rarely use. I
> checked incoming mail and got the "certificate cannot be used for
Hi
On Monday 13 April 2020 at 2:41:35 PM, in
, MFPA wrote:-
> Hi
Never mind what else I wrote. I have a gmail account I rarely use. I
checked incoming mail and got the "certificate cannot be used for this
purpose" error message.
The solution that has worked for me for the last ten minutes
Hi
On Sunday 12 April 2020 at 3:39:44 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-
> Interesting, because my error message mentions avast:
>>[...]
>>12-Apr-20, 09:31:04: FETCH - Issuer: generated by
>>avast! antivirus for SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail
>>Shield, avast! Web/Mail Shield Root.
Avast
Hello Assad,
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 13:25:24 +0400 GMT (12-Apr-20, 16:25 +0700 GMT),
Assad Baroot wrote:
>>> Maxim wrote this in the list of changes in version 9.1.10:
>>>
>>> [-] The Bat! did require "Key Encipherment" or "Key Agreement" in
>>> "Key Usage" certificate attribute for TLS
I am coming late to this "party," having been offline since April 8. I use
The Bat for 18 e-mail accounts: 5 private domains, a dormant Yahoo
account, and 12 Gmail accounts. Beginning April 7 I have been unable to
send mail from any of the Gmail accounts. The error message is "The
server
Hello Thomas,
> What antivirus software do you use?
I don't use any antivirus plug-in specific for TB. As a general
purpose one I use ESET-NOD32
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Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain)
Using The Bat! v9.1.12.1 (BETA)
Hello Assad,
> Maxim wrote this in the list of changes in version 9.1.10:
>
> [-] The Bat! did require "Key Encipherment" or "Key Agreement" in
> "Key Usage" certificate attribute for TLS even if the certificate
> was only used to sign ephemeral keys to provide perfect forward
>
Hello MAU,
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:00:34 +0200 GMT (11-Apr-20, 23:00 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
>> I still believe it is caused by avast, though.
> I experienced the intermittent certificate problems a few day ago, and
> I have never ever used Avast.
Interesting, because my error
Hi MAU and Thomas
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:00:34 PM you wrote:
M> Hello Thomas,
M> I experienced the intermittent certificate problems a few day ago, and
M> I have never ever used Avast.
If it is not avast, then can it be assumed that the problem is
either the Host or TB!?
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Hello,
Saturday, April 11, 2020, 9:00:34 AM, MAU wrote:
> I experienced the intermittent certificate problems a few day ago, and
> I have never ever used Avast.
Same here.
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Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com
Using The Bat! 9.1.12
OS: Windows 10.0
Hello Thomas,
> I still believe it is caused by avast, though.
I experienced the intermittent certificate problems a few day ago, and
I have never ever used Avast.
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Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain)
Using The Bat! v9.1.12.1 (BETA)
Hi Thomas,
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:53:17 PM you wrote:
<...>
TF> FWIW, I have two gmail accouints, one uses the servers gmail.com and
TF> the other googlemail.com. The problem is not intermittent any more,
TF> but it is now reliably producable on both computers:
>>11-Apr-20, 10:49:02:
Hello Paul,
Saturday, April 11, 2020, 9:08:37 PM, you wrote:
> It is a "where is the horse" issue.
Precisely.
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A
Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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4/11/2020 7:31 AM
Hi Andrew,
On 4/11/2020 Andrew Savchenko wrote:
AS> Hello Thomas,
AS> Saturday, April 11, 2020, 1:58:28 PM, you wrote:
>> Why would you want to download an old beta version?
AS> Because newer "release" version is not production ready. Check all the
AS> complains about UI
Hello Andrew,
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:55:12 +0930 GMT (11-Apr-20, 18:25 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> Saturday, April 11, 2020, 8:35:35 PM, you wrote:
>> There are newer betas... ;-)
> of v8? Please share.
Why would you want a beta version of v8? What would be better
Hello Thomas,
Saturday, April 11, 2020, 8:35:35 PM, you wrote:
> There are newer betas... ;-)
of v8? Please share.
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A
Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello Andrew,
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:12:38 +0930 GMT (11-Apr-20, 11:42 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> Saturday, April 11, 2020, 1:58:28 PM, you wrote:
>> Why would you want to download an old beta version?
> Because newer "release" version is not production ready. Check
Hello Thomas,
Saturday, April 11, 2020, 1:58:28 PM, you wrote:
> Why would you want to download an old beta version?
Because newer "release" version is not production ready. Check all the
complains about UI in v9 branch posted to this list in the past weeks.
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A
Hello Andrew,
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:43:13 +0930 GMT (11-Apr-20, 11:13 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Saturday, April 11, 2020, 1:19:35 PM, you wrote:
>> May I suggest to not download beta versions from any unauthorised
>> sites. If you want to use beta versions, please become a member
Hello Thomas,
Saturday, April 11, 2020, 1:19:35 PM, you wrote:
> May I suggest to not download beta versions from any unauthorised
> sites. If you want to use beta versions, please become a member of the
> TBBETA discussion group and downlaod the official betas from the
> Ritlabs website only.
Hello Andrew,
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:56:59 +0930 GMT (10-Apr-20, 9:26 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Hello Paul,
> Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:43:01 AM, you wrote:
I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could
downgrade
and keep on with that while
Hello Thomas,
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 11:10:02 +0700 GMT (10-Apr-20, 11:10 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:59:30 +0700 GMT (10-Apr-20, 10:59 +0700 GMT),
> Thomas Fernandez wrote:
>> Hello Maxim,
>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:17:04 +0300 GMT (09-Apr-20,
Hello,
Thursday, April 9, 2020, 7:26:59 PM, Andrew wrote:
> Latest v8 beta available in public:
> https://mega.nz/file/JktHDQDT#zki2R-F6loABaYNkKeVa_H5nPtPt4Wg9QaMEUDH9KSk
> http://uploaded.net/file/gvpoinfr
Does this version not have the certificate problem, or the customization
troubles?
4/10/2020 9:10 AM
Hi Andrew,
On 4/9/2020 Andrew Savchenko wrote:
AS> Hello Paul,
AS> Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:43:01 AM, you wrote:
I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could
downgrade
and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature.
S>>> I
Hello Thomas,
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:59:30 +0700 GMT (10-Apr-20, 10:59 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello Maxim,
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:17:04 +0300 GMT (09-Apr-20, 20:17 +0700 GMT),
> Maxim Masiutin via TBUDL wrote:
>> Thursday, April 9, 2020, 4:11:08 PM, you wrote:
>>> Yes I did,
Hello Maxim,
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:17:04 +0300 GMT (09-Apr-20, 20:17 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin via TBUDL wrote:
> Thursday, April 9, 2020, 4:11:08 PM, you wrote:
>> Yes I did, and restarted the computer.
>> Program version 20.2.2401 (build 20.2.5130.567)
>> However, I just switched the
Hello Paul,
Friday, April 10, 2020, 7:43:01 AM, you wrote:
>>> I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could
>>> downgrade
>>> and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature.
S>> I wholeheartedly agree!
S>> The customization, where even available, doesn't stick. It reverts
4/9/2020 6:10 PM
Hi Susanne,
On 4/9/2020 Susanne wrote:
S> Thursday, April 9, 2020, 10:27:36 AM, Luca wrote:
>> I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could
>> downgrade
>> and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature.
S> I wholeheartedly agree!
S> The customization,
Hello,
Thursday, April 9, 2020, 10:27:36 AM, Luca wrote:
> I'm comfy with the late v.8, I would appreciate very much if I could downgrade
> and keep on with that while v.9 grows mature.
I wholeheartedly agree!
The customization, where even available, doesn't stick. It reverts back to the
Maxim Masiutin via TBUDL:
> Will release an updated MSI within a few hours.
I just installed Voyager 9.1.10.1, problem with Gmail is gone, but... is there
another way to cope with this recurrent problem? I wouldn't update right now,
I think v.9 is not ready. All my personal buttons on the
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, April 9, 2020, 4:11:08 PM, you wrote:
> Yes I did, and restarted the computer.
> Program version 20.2.2401 (build 20.2.5130.567)
> However, I just switched the servers back to googlemail.com and now
> there is no problem. I'll watch it, as it was also intermittent in the
Hello Thomas,
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:11:08 +0700 GMT (09-Apr-20, 20:11 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello Maxim,
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:49:58 +0300 GMT (09-Apr-20, 19:49 +0700 GMT),
> Maxim Masiutin via TBUDL wrote:
>> Hello Thomas,
>> Thursday, April 9, 2020, 2:44:31 PM, you wrote:
Hello Maxim,
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:49:58 +0300 GMT (09-Apr-20, 19:49 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin via TBUDL wrote:
> Hello Thomas,
> Thursday, April 9, 2020, 2:44:31 PM, you wrote:
>>>09-Apr-20, 18:37:07: FETCH - Issuer: generated by avast! antivirus for
>>>SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail
Hello Thomas,
Thursday, April 9, 2020, 2:44:31 PM, you wrote:
>>09-Apr-20, 18:37:07: FETCH - Issuer: generated by avast! antivirus for
>>SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail Shield, avast! Web/Mail Shield Root.
> !09-Apr-20, 18:37:08: FETCH - TLS protocol error: Internal error
>
Hello Luca,
On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 13:13:36 +0200 GMT (09-Apr-20, 18:13 +0700 GMT),
Luca via TBUDL wrote:
>> >> > starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one
>> >> > account (so far).
>> >> > Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server
>> >> >
Thomas Fernandez:
> Hello Luca,
>
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 12:07:30 +0200 GMT (08-Apr-20, 17:07 +0700 GMT),
> Luca via TBUDL wrote:
>
> > Thomas Fernandez:
>
> >> Hello Susanne,
> >>
> >> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:04:34 -0700 GMT (08-Apr-20, 4:04 +0700 GMT),
> >> Susanne wrote:
> >>
> >> > starting
Hello,
Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 6:58:09 AM, Maxim wrote:
> Will release an updated MSI within a few hours.
I've installed the new version and can now send mail again! Thanks!
A new problem: I can't configure the status bar at all.
Used to have a button for "reply to all quoting selected text)
Hello,
Wednesday, April 8, 2020, 3:07:30 AM, Luca wrote:
> It doesn't work. Same problem here with IMAP.
Same here. Still intermittent problems, with or without changing to googlemail.
One account only, so far.
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Will release an updated MSI within a few hours.
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Hello Luca,
On Wed, 08 Apr 2020 12:07:30 +0200 GMT (08-Apr-20, 17:07 +0700 GMT),
Luca via TBUDL wrote:
> Thomas Fernandez:
>> Hello Susanne,
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:04:34 -0700 GMT (08-Apr-20, 4:04 +0700 GMT),
>> Susanne wrote:
>>
>> > starting today, I have intermittent problems sending
Thomas Fernandez:
> Hello Susanne,
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:04:34 -0700 GMT (08-Apr-20, 4:04 +0700 GMT),
> Susanne wrote:
>
> > starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one
> > account (so far).
> > Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server
>
Hello Susanne,
> starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one account
> (so far).
> Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server
> certificate (The certificate cannot be used for this purpose).
I observed the same thing yesterday,
Hello,
Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 5:19:10 PM, Thomas wrote:
> Did you try this solution (from the website you linked):
No, I haven't! That solution wasn't there yet when I last looked.
Thanks, will try that now!
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Using
Hello Susanne,
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 14:04:34 -0700 GMT (08-Apr-20, 4:04 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:
> starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one account
> (so far).
> Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server
> certificate (The certificate cannot
Hello everyone,
starting today, I have intermittent problems sending emails in one account
(so far).
Error message in the log is TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate
(The certificate cannot be used for this purpose).
Is there a fix for that?
Found this online:
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