[tw] Re: [TW5] Need help with TW5-script

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jed,

I've tried this in all sorts of iterations. I was hoping that wrapping a 
macro in a macro could finally force it to acknowledge the actual text in 
the dereferenced name tiddler.

Your variation put this into the "converted" tiddler:

*{{TitleIUsedInTheForm}}*

So the literal string with brackets is getting passed rather than the 
transcluded text. It seems like it ought to be easy. 

Thanks for trying,
Mark

On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> It is probably the <$set name="text2convert"  value=<>  > line 
> that does it.
>
> Why don't you just use one macro instead of creating a macro that just 
> calls a second macro? Make textin:
>
> \define textin() {{$(name_of_tiddler)$}}
>
> and use that as the value for text2convert instead of textin2
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Need help with TW5-script

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Eric,

That seems to be the final tweak. I put the triple quotes in (not BJ) 
before I realized that the name/argument were mismatched. I fixed the 
mismatch, but should have removed the quotes.

I'm still very confused about all this.  If all that a macro does is 
substitution, how does it help to put everything inside of the macro? For 
instance, the line:

<$set name="text2convert"  value={{$x$}}  >


is inside of the macro now. If there is no interpolation/transclusion 
inside of the macro, why does value now get properly assigned when it 
wasn't being properly assigned when interpreted outside the macro? It feels 
like it should be the other way around.

Thanks Eric, Jed, and BJ!
Mark

On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> <$macrocall $name="amacro" x="""{{$:/html2tw/title}}"""/>
>>
>> Maybe some other tweak?
>>
>
> should be:
>
> <$macrocall $name="amacro" x={{$:/html2tw/title}}/>
>
> e.g., remove the tripled-quotes so that the parameter retrieves the value 
> that was entered in the input field.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Need help with TW5-script

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks BJ. I had great hopes for this approach. But in this case, 
<> is empty and doesn't even show up when dropped in ... as 
shown below.

I had to tweak your suggested code to match up parameter and argument 
names. I put the label THIS IS EMPTY to show where there's no contents at 
all being retrieved. Here's what it looks like:

\define convertto() $(name_of_tiddler)$-converted
\define amacro(x)
<$set name="name_of_tiddler"  value=$x$>
<$set name="text2convert"  value={{$x$}}  >

<$button>
<$action-setfield
$tiddler=<>
text=<>   />
<$action-navigate $to=<>/>
Convert Tiddler Text

Using text from ''<>'' and sending to ''<>''
. 

THIS IS EMPTY: <>



\end

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/html2tw/title" rows="1" size="50" placeholder="Name 
of tiddler to convert"  tag="input"   >

<$macrocall $name="amacro" x="""{{$:/html2tw/title}}"""/>


Maybe some other tweak?

Thanks,
Mark


On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 1:55:17 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi mark,
> this is a typical tw5 'gotcha'
>
> <$set name="text2convert"  value=<>  >
>
> the macro only does basic text substitution.
>
> You need to use this pattern
>
> <$set name="text2convert"  value={{$x$}}  >
>
> and so must put your code inside a macro
>
>
>
> \define amacro(x)
> <$set name="name_of_tiddler"  value=$x$> 
> <$set name="text2convert"  value={{$x$}}  >
> <$button>
> <$action-setfield 
> $tiddler=<> 
> text=<>   />
> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
> Convert Tiddler Text
> 
> \end
>
>
> <$macrocall $name="amacro" tname={{$:/html2tw/title}}/>
>
> all the best
>
> BJ
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:14:56 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jed,
>>
>> I've tried this in all sorts of iterations. I was hoping that wrapping a 
>> macro in a macro could finally force it to acknowledge the actual text in 
>> the dereferenced name tiddler.
>>
>> Your variation put this into the "converted" tiddler:
>>
>> *{{TitleIUsedInTheForm}}*
>>
>> So the literal string with brackets is getting passed rather than the 
>> transcluded text. It seems like it ought to be easy. 
>>
>> Thanks for trying,
>> Mark
>>
>> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>>
>>> It is probably the <$set name="text2convert"  value=<>  > line 
>>> that does it.
>>>
>>> Why don't you just use one macro instead of creating a macro that just 
>>> calls a second macro? Make textin:
>>>
>>> \define textin() {{$(name_of_tiddler)$}}
>>>
>>> and use that as the value for text2convert instead of textin2
>>>
>>

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[tw] [TW5] Presenting Klugey HTML to TW5 converter

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This is really kind of klugey (sp?) but it gets you (or at least me) about 
90% of the way towards turning HTML from web pages into TW5 mark-up. It 
attempts to convert most common markups including links, images and tables.

Someone who understood TW5 better would probably build a DOM tree 
structure, and then parse out the parts piece by piece. 

What I did was to simply apply a series of regular expressions. The problem 
with this approach is that mismatched tags can really throw the translation 
off the rails. So use at your own risk. You should check to make sure that 
all original content is still present. You are likely to need to adjust 
bullets and tables. It's likely that certain situations I haven't thought 
of will break it more severely.

Maybe this will be an incentive for someone to come up with something 
better ;-)

As always, make sure that you have a backup of any TW you try this in. Just 
import the attached json and then reload your TW file. Put your HTML 
contents in a designated tiddler. In the HTML2TW Launcher supply the name 
of the source tiddler and click on the convert button. The resulting 
mark-up should appear in the tiddler with the same name as the original 
tiddler plus "-converted" appended to the title..

Thanks to BJ, Eric, and Jed for helping me with the launcher.

Mark

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html2tw.json
Description: application/json

[tw] Re: Feedback for TiddlyClip

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi BJ,

Thanks for writing such a useful utility!

I'm late to this conversation, but I wanted to add my thought.

The main reason I don't use TC more is the docking. Having to check on 
docking, dock, and then do the clipping is only slightly faster than cut & 
paste. So it's mostly useful if I'm starting a session where I will be 
doing lots of clipping.

Is there any way, maybe with cookies, that TC can remember where it is 
docked between browser shut-downs? I almost always dock to the same TW. I 
guess you could call it "Lock the Dock" ;)

Thanks!
Mark



On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 7:19:16 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am working on necessary changes to tiddlyclip in order support future 
> versions of firefox. As I am current focused on tiddlyclip, this would be a 
> good time to let me know of anything that you think could be improved or 
> added to tiddlyclip or its documentation, or maybe you have a particular 
> use or setup to share that could be added to tiddlyclip's website?
>
> all the best
>
> BJ
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting Klugey HTML to TW5 converter

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi BJ,

That sounds like a really good idea. But when I try it, it gives an alert 
pop-up that says "html2twmarco not found". ("marco" is an exact quote).

Is there something else I have to do to the macro (naming, location, 
tagging?) to allow it to be found?

Thanks!
Mark

On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 3:40:05 AM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Mark, 
> good stuff!. You marco seem to work to a large extend. I wrote a similar 
> one to convert to html to tw2, and had about the same success, for 
> reference it is here 
>
>
> http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Ftiddlyclip%2Fconvert.js
>
> If you make a small change in your code you can call the macro from a 
> tiddlyclip rule. The change is
>
> /* Check for special environmental variable. But argument text will take 
> precedence. */
> var vartext = (this && this.getVariable) ? 
> this.getVariable("text2convert"): null;
> if (vartext) intext = vartext ;
>
>
> The tiddlyclip tiddlers are below, and allow content to be converted as it 
> is clipped.
>
> All the best
> BJ
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 11:32:37 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> This is really kind of klugey (sp?) but it gets you (or at least me) 
>> about 90% of the way towards turning HTML from web pages into TW5 mark-up. 
>> It attempts to convert most common markups including links, images and 
>> tables.
>>
>> Someone who understood TW5 better would probably build a DOM tree 
>> structure, and then parse out the parts piece by piece. 
>>
>> What I did was to simply apply a series of regular expressions. The 
>> problem with this approach is that mismatched tags can really throw the 
>> translation off the rails. So use at your own risk. You should check to 
>> make sure that all original content is still present. You are likely to 
>> need to adjust bullets and tables. It's likely that certain situations I 
>> haven't thought of will break it more severely.
>>
>> Maybe this will be an incentive for someone to come up with something 
>> better ;-)
>>
>> As always, make sure that you have a backup of any TW you try this in. 
>> Just import the attached json and then reload your TW file. Put your HTML 
>> contents in a designated tiddler. In the HTML2TW Launcher supply the name 
>> of the source tiddler and click on the convert button. The resulting 
>> mark-up should appear in the tiddler with the same name as the original 
>> tiddler plus "-converted" appended to the title..
>>
>> Thanks to BJ, Eric, and Jed for helping me with the launcher.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Suggestion for stamp: Add a 3rd possibility to do a transclusion AND a 
link. That way the user can quickly navigate back to the source snippet 
when changes are required.

Mark

On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:34:19 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m pleased to say that TiddlyWiki is finally getting an extensible rich 
> text editor toolbar in the core. There’s a preview you can try out here:
>
> http://rich-text-editor.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
> The breakthrough was (re)-discovering how to avoid losing the selection 
> when clicking on one of the toolbar buttons. The solution turns out to be 
> as simple as embedding the textarea in an iframe. There are some 
> complexities stemming from the fact that the content of the iframe doesn’t 
> inherit the prevailing CSS styles.
>
> Anyhow, the code is complete enough to be usable. Besides the expected 
> formatting operations there are a couple of interesting additions:
>
> * An “excise” button that slices the selected text into a new tiddler and 
> replaces it with a link or transclusion to the new tiddler
> * A “stamp” button that brings up an extensible list of snippets that can 
> be selected with a single click
>
> It’s still a work in progress; the things left to are listed in the pull 
> request:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2315
>
> I’m interested in feedback on how well it works on different 
> browser/operating system combinations, but please feel free to post any 
> thoughts or questions too,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your explainer. But there's something wrong with your macro 
definition. It seems to want the tiddler= attribute rather than the 
combined field=tiddler!!field. 

Also, is the idea that only the caption OR the title shows up? I could fix 
it, but it would show both caption and title when both were available. 

I don't suppose there's a simple way to make a macro that can do if/else 
choices? 

It's a basic database design requirement that key linking fields be 
immutable. Title fields should float on top of the data independently so 
they can be freely altered as the use case is refined. I guess if I was 
going to depend on a macro solution I would want one that would create 
links based on a separate id field. But I suppose the link macro would have 
to do some sort of expensive field search so ... I don't know.

Thanks!
Mark
 



On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 10:16:51 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The little arrow buttons give an NS_ERROR_FAILURE message.
>>
>> The problem with linking/transcluding via titles is that then you either 
>> have to stick with that title forever or be willing to go back and edit all 
>> the places it is referenced. I often find myself wanting to change a title 
>> -- sometimes the muse just isn't there when you're doing your first draft. 
>> As a consequence, I rarely use the linking feature.  It would be useful if 
>> there were a way to link via some ID field which would never have to change.
>>
>
> Use of a special "unique tiddler ID" field has been suggested many times, 
> for both TiddlyWiki Classic and TiddlyWiki5.  Typically, after much 
> discussion of alternative architectures and backward compatibility, we 
> generally come back to the fact that TiddlyWiki already has a field that 
> holds a unique ID for each tiddler: the *title* field, and that what is 
> really being discussed is a distinction between a tiddler's ID and the 
> title that people see.
>
> In TiddlyWiki5, the "caption" field can be used to provide that 
> distinction.  For example, in the <> or <> macros, if a tiddler 
> has a caption field, then that text is displayed as the tab title or table 
> toc link text, respectively.  Note that this is simply a TW core standard 
> *convention*.  There is no requirement for a tiddler to have a caption 
> field and, by default, only some of the core functions use the caption 
> field.
>
> For your purposes, you could extend this default usage to display the 
> caption text in place of the title text, by modifying the 
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title shadow definition, and replace
> <$view field="title"/>
> with
> <$view field="caption"><$view field="title"/>
>
> For links, you could just use *pretty link syntax* to show the desired 
> text, while using the title "ID" as the link target:
> [[this is what the reader sees|TiddlerID]]
> or, alternatively, you could use a "caption link" macro to assemble a link 
> using the target tiddler's caption text, like this:
> \define clink(tid)
> <$link to="""$tid$"""><$view field="""$tid$!!caption"""><$view field=
> """$tid$!!title"""/>
> \end
> which you would invoke like this:
> <>
>
> There are probably some other places where you might want some 
> customizations, but once you have tweaked things to suit your needs, you 
> can just think to yourself "title = ID caption = display text".  Of 
> course, if you don't provide a caption on a given tiddler, everything 
> should fall back nicely to using the title text as the display text, just 
> as before.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 as a better option than ePub.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Just curious. Does zooming of TW on Safari on i-devices work appropriately?

On Firefox in Android, when you attempt to zoom on a tiddler the words go 
off the end of the screen. Very annoying and not how it works on the 
desktop. Fortunately, it works correctly on andtidwiki.

One of the advantages of epub readers (at least on Android) is that you can 
easily change font size and color and even set up night reading 
environments. To use TW as a complete epub substitute, it seems like you 
would need some way to easily swap themes to accommodate the user's 
environment.


Mark

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 10:57:19 PM UTC-8, John Newell wrote:
>
> (*First time Group Poster, 7 years TW user and fan.*)
>
> *THE SHORT VERSION *:
> I need assistance in creating a TW5 file that is an alternative to eBook 
> format - that is 
>
>- Non-editable by the reader
>- Without the sidebar ( as navigation is / will be - via tags & links 
>in each tiddler (chapter)  and "close tiddler button" at the base of the 
>long pages.)
>- and no access to backend
>
> If anyone can assist we'd be very grateful - and as I have had trouble 
> finding anything online that espouses the greatness of TW5 as a likely 
> BETTER alternative to eBooks in other formats ( and provides a guide to 
> achieving the uneditable standalone version ) - I would love to promote the 
> socks off tiddlywiki's benefits. I have over 400K social followers over 
> various accounts- the biggest following a few have caught up with me 
> recently on : twitter @magillamax
>
>
> *Background to this request :*
>
> My wife and I have just finished a very large tome (7MB) called "Spiritual 
> Quest" ("SQ") which we have recently issued to 40+ people to review before 
> taking it live.
> Created as an EPUB - it amazed me how many had trouble downloading it - 
> then opening in an ePub reader - usually iBooks.
> After getting frustrated at their ineptness - I looked at myself and 
> figured that "I" must make the book more accessible.
>
> I quickly created a TW5 version - uploaded to dropbox - and emailed it to 
> 22 ppl with a direct link to the TW5 within dropbox.
> Most had dropbox and opened it immediately _ voilà !! 
> 
> I also provided to each a quick guide to Adding the SQ Tiddlywiki file to 
> "Reading list"
> In TW5 it renders (significantly) better, is more efficient in use of 
> space, cleaner, easier to edit, changing Settings to Airplane Mode and then 
> opening up perfectly in Safari - all good ---
> ( and TW5 is always a "snack" to edit and add to )
>
> thanks in advance - and I'll keep future comm's less wordy.. JN
>
>
>
>
> *Tiddlywiki has revolutionized my management of client information, 
> registrations, content, invoices etc ( especially with the advent of {{ }} 
> transclusions)I have also used it for VERY effective management and 
> tracking a recent (narrative) book.I love what TW5 can do, and use it 
> daily. However I am very cautious going into the deeper coding.*
>
> 
>

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[tw] Re: Creating a Contents Tab in TiddlyWiki. Contents Tab - list-before - Open... not working for me - Please help!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Did you save it and refresh?

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:57:27 PM UTC-8, Dotty_Au wrote:
>
> I attempted Creating a Contents Tab in TiddlyWiki, using this 
> instruction...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7JU4DjPrg=ANyPxKp9rqMBX65eC1SAZwPQA0Gm5LJPogMOrnRATWq2sPeu0g6Smgtlm4--3EDxkmOIF3Y5oRJaVInbaqhOyz6vmbD9CZQXBw
>
> As you can see from the screenshot, the "list-before - Open" function is 
> not working for me. Appreciate any assistance you may be able to provide in 
> solving this issue.  
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: Creating a Contents Tab in TiddlyWiki. Contents Tab - list-before - Open... not working for me - Please help!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Could you post the TW so we could look at it?

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:57:27 PM UTC-8, Dotty_Au wrote:
>
> I attempted Creating a Contents Tab in TiddlyWiki, using this 
> instruction...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7JU4DjPrg=ANyPxKp9rqMBX65eC1SAZwPQA0Gm5LJPogMOrnRATWq2sPeu0g6Smgtlm4--3EDxkmOIF3Y5oRJaVInbaqhOyz6vmbD9CZQXBw
>
> As you can see from the screenshot, the "list-before - Open" function is 
> not working for me. Appreciate any assistance you may be able to provide in 
> solving this issue.  
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

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The little arrow buttons give an NS_ERROR_FAILURE message.

The problem with linking/transcluding via titles is that then you either 
have to stick with that title forever or be willing to go back and edit all 
the places it is referenced. I often find myself wanting to change a title 
-- sometimes the muse just isn't there when you're doing your first draft. 
As a consequence, I rarely use the linking feature.  It would be useful if 
there were a way to link via some ID field which would never have to change.

Mark

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On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 9:34:19 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m pleased to say that TiddlyWiki is finally getting an extensible rich 
> text editor toolbar in the core. There’s a preview you can try out here:
>
> http://rich-text-editor.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
> The breakthrough was (re)-discovering how to avoid losing the selection 
> when clicking on one of the toolbar buttons. The solution turns out to be 
> as simple as embedding the textarea in an iframe. There are some 
> complexities stemming from the fact that the content of the iframe doesn’t 
> inherit the prevailing CSS styles.
>
> Anyhow, the code is complete enough to be usable. Besides the expected 
> formatting operations there are a couple of interesting additions:
>
> * An “excise” button that slices the selected text into a new tiddler and 
> replaces it with a link or transclusion to the new tiddler
> * A “stamp” button that brings up an extensible list of snippets that can 
> be selected with a single click
>
> It’s still a work in progress; the things left to are listed in the pull 
> request:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2315
>
> I’m interested in feedback on how well it works on different 
> browser/operating system combinations, but please feel free to post any 
> thoughts or questions too,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Take smartphone picture directly into TiddlyWiki

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On my android tablet clicking on the import button leads to the "Choose 
file" menu. I can select the camera, but in the camera screen the camera 
button is greyed out so I can't actually take the photo. Oddly, the Movie 
button is not greyed out

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 1:05:26 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> This is partly in response to the following comment from Atul over in the 
> Notestorms thread:
>
> > Now, is it possible to have the image-note-card open the phone's camera, 
> allow the user to take a photo,save it, and insert the image link or 
> filepath between the double quotes and save the tiddler. 
>
> > This could be widely used for live & self learning (the direction in 
> which the modern pedagogy is moving). 
>
> > I think there are html5 tags that can call the android APIs etc.
> I'm making some changes for 5.0.17 that will allow directly taking a photo 
> on the iPad/iPhone by clicking the import button and selecting "Take Photo" 
> in the dialogue shown in the screenshot attached.
>
> I'm pretty sure the same API works on Android devices,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> -- 
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> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com 
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[tw] Re: [TW5] export tiddlers to classic Tiddlywiki

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I'm guessing that you're trying the "tid" export? I've asked about this 
before. The tid export option only puts out one tiddler. The other 3 export 
formats put out everything as advertised.

You might try to export as CSV. Then use Eric's CreateTiddlersFromCSV tool 
(tiddlytools.com) to import. Might be worth a shot.

HTH
Mark


On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 6:22:59 AM UTC-7, Chris S wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am  trying to export the tiddlers of a Tiddlywiki5 to classsic one.
> The export all feature is not working properly as only one tiddler is 
> exported (!).
>
> Is there any other way to import from TW5 to TWC ?
>
> thx in advance,
>
> Chris
>

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[tw] Re: Populating a Select from a user input term

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Eric Shulman explained how to do a preferential caption/title a few weeks 
ago:

<$view field='caption'><$view field='title'/>

HTH
Mark


On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 7:09:31 PM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> Mario and Mark,
>
> Many thanks. Your reworking was exactly what I needed. I had missed the 
> detail of the single curly bracket when used with a filter. 
>
> I went with the caption field rather than the title because some of what 
> I'm having the user look-up are system files which I find have names that 
> can be confusing. You're right. A tiddler without a caption will produce a 
> blank line and that isn't the best. Still, if I could figure some way to 
> show the caption preferentially and the title if the caption field was 
> blank I would be a happy camper.
>

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[tw] Re: Populating a Select from a user input term

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Using transclusion in a filter has a special syntax -- just put the item in 
single curly brackets instead of bracket and double curlies . So your 
filter now looks like:

*<$list 
filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search{$:/temp/searchterm}sort[title]]'>*

HTH
Mark

On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 2:06:54 PM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> A regular search generates a list of links. Instead of that I want to 
> populate a $Select widget list. I've been able to populate the $Select 
> widget list from a $List that includes a search operator that has a hard 
> coded entry in the filter using something like this 
>
> <$select>
> <$list 
> filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search[quote]sort[title]]'>
> >><$view field='caption'/>
> 
> 
>
> but nothing I've tried has allowed me to put something changeable in there 
> like.
>
> <$list 
> filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search[{{$:/temp/searchterm}}]sort[title]]'>
>
> My luck with variables hasn't been any better. 
>
> <$list 
> filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search[<>]sort[title]]'>
>
> This seems like it ought to be a straightforward problem but it has me 
> stumped. Anyone out there have a way of doing this?
>

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[tw] Re: Export some of my Tiddlers to Onenote

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You can copy and paste into a new One Note note, and images and editable 
text come along. This should be faster than exporting/importing.

Mark 

Oh, and if you haven'te 

On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 11:54:02 PM UTC-7, Andy Wood wrote:
>
> Hi group, as the title suggests, I would like to export some tiddlers to 
> Onenote.
>
> I would like for the text within them to be searchable / editable in 
> onenote.
>
> I tried printing to onenote but that didn't allow the text to be editable 
> although it did bring accross the images.
>
> I tried export as HTML flat, but that killed the images etc.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andy
>
>

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[tw] Re: New and making a lot of mistakes

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Does it work better if you use "get[corpname]" instead of "field[corpname]" 
? 

Mark

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 2:49:29 PM UTC-7, Christopher Londrie wrote:
>
> I'm able to do this at all thanks to Tobias Beer's really easy to use 
> "Random" plugin. http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#random
>
>  
> 
>
> 
> <$set name="FirstName" 
> filter="[prefix[GenSource:]tag[Corp]tag[FirstName]field[corpname]random[]]">
>
> 
> <$set name="LastName" 
> filter="[prefix[GenSource:]tag[Corp]tag[LastName]field[corpname]random[]]">
>
> 
> 
> Name  <>
> 
>
> 
> <$button>Generate Corp
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title="Corp:"<> 
> tags="Corp Corp:<>-<>"/>
> 
> 
>
> This is my current batch of code, I've got it partially working but am 
> stumped on a few things:
>
> 1) If I remove the field[corpname] I'm able to successfully pull the 
> titles of the GenSource: tiddler(s), however with it, I get null as a 
> result, I've made absolutely sure that I've made no spelling mistakes and 
> the GenSource tiddler does indeed have that field, am I specifying this 
> wrong?
>
> 2) How do I properly insert tags using the variables, they're considered 
> literal inside the quotes, and ignored outside of them.
>
> 3) Am I going about this in an absurd manner?
>

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[tw] Re: How to transclude external tiddlers in TW5

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There's supposed to be the ability to link to external tid files using 
_canonical_uri. However, it doesn't work on my very latest FF, so not sure 
where it does work. I notice that the link to 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText doesn't exist, so maybe the idea was 
dropped..

You might look at Tobias Beer's <> plugin and see if it's want 
you want: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#external



On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 3:16:36 AM UTC-7, David Myers wrote:
>
> Hello All.
>
> First of all I would like to thank all those who have worked on TiddlyWiki 
> ~ suffice to say I love it lots and lots.
>
> Recently I've started a number of TiddlyWiki files and I often want to 
> include them into one another.
>
> I know that I can 'import' and external TiddlyWiki from the Tools > Import 
> menu in the side bar.
>
> However  would like to be able to 'transclude' an external wiki into my 
> current one.
>
> My use case:
>
> I am writing my thesis, and use TW to take notes.
> I use zotero and BibTex for storing my references. Whic I then import (one 
> at a time) using inmysocks Citations Plugin 
> 
> However I keep all my citations in a single tiddlywiki file, and then 
> simply import this file into each of my other TiddlyWiki notebooks.
>
> This works fine, but I would really appreciate a way for the TW with the 
> references / citations in to auto update into the currently open TW file 
> (much like how transcluding a tiddler mean I only need a single copy of it 
> and any updates I make are seen wherever it is transcluded.
> This functionality exists in TW classic using the SharedTiddlerPlugin or 
> ExternalTiddlersPlugin etc, but currently doesn't seem to be availabe in 
> TW5 (or have I missed something ?)
>
> Another option would be to add in an 'import' button to do this 
> automatically with this specified file.
>
> I found the loadTiddlersFromFile function, but I'm not sure how to call it 
> directly from within the a tiddler. I could place a 'button' within the 
> local references tiddler that could point to the external file.
>
> If anyone can give me any pointers that would be great, I'm fairly new to 
> working on TW.
>
>
> to this end I attemtped to find the JS code in the empty tiddlywiki file, 
> but I can't seem to find it, as it doesn't seem to be called 'load' or 
> 'import'
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] More JavaScript macro questions

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Hi Tristan,

Your English is great -- the documentation is indeed short and abstract.

I've never had much luck passing things to a javascript macro without using 
a <$set> variable. I'm thinking it might be possible to use another 
standard macro to wrap the <$set> process. 

Could you provide the javascript macro and template for testing purposes?

Mark

On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:26:20 AM UTC-7, Tristan Kohl wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> i started creating my e-book management with TW a couple days ago. But 
> there are still some things I do not get right away so I hope you can help 
> me out with them.
>
> First a short explanation of my "design": I have a template tiddler which 
> is used to show the details of a book. In this template a call my custom 
> macro to make a comma separated list of links from a field with comma 
> separated author names. So i.e. field "authors" contains *Mark Twain* and 
> *J.R.R. 
> Tolkien* separated by comma. My macro produces links like *[[Mark 
> Twain]], [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]* so I can find books for every author via 
> backlinks.
>
> My problem is that I can not figure out, how to use the value of "authors" 
> within my JavaScript macro. At the moment I use the *set* widget to 
> create a variable authors:
> <$set name=authors value={{!!authors}}><$macrocall $name="linklist" field=<
> > />
>
> But this looks like overkill for me and is not that readable, so I wonder 
> if it Is possible to replace this whole setup with something like (which 
> does not work for me):
> <>
>
> There is another question that bothers me. As I am not a native English 
> speaker I do not get the difference between substitution and transclusion. 
> I figure one is *before* the macro call and the other one *after* that? 
> But which is when and how do I use substitution at all? Unfortunately the 
> documentation is very short and abstract about this I feel.
>
> Thanks for your help
> Tristan
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] More JavaScript macro questions

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You might try invoking it like this:

<$macrocall $name="listlinks" text={{!!authors}}/>

Where "text" is whatever you have set up as your parameter variable name. 
That seemed to work on my quick test.

Mark

On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:26:20 AM UTC-7, Tristan Kohl wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> i started creating my e-book management with TW a couple days ago. But 
> there are still some things I do not get right away so I hope you can help 
> me out with them.
>
> First a short explanation of my "design": I have a template tiddler which 
> is used to show the details of a book. In this template a call my custom 
> macro to make a comma separated list of links from a field with comma 
> separated author names. So i.e. field "authors" contains *Mark Twain* and 
> *J.R.R. 
> Tolkien* separated by comma. My macro produces links like *[[Mark 
> Twain]], [[J.R.R. Tolkien]]* so I can find books for every author via 
> backlinks.
>
> My problem is that I can not figure out, how to use the value of "authors" 
> within my JavaScript macro. At the moment I use the *set* widget to 
> create a variable authors:
> <$set name=authors value={{!!authors}}><$macrocall $name="linklist" field=<
> > />
>
> But this looks like overkill for me and is not that readable, so I wonder 
> if it Is possible to replace this whole setup with something like (which 
> does not work for me):
> <>
>
> There is another question that bothers me. As I am not a native English 
> speaker I do not get the difference between substitution and transclusion. 
> I figure one is *before* the macro call and the other one *after* that? 
> But which is when and how do I use substitution at all? Unfortunately the 
> documentation is very short and abstract about this I feel.
>
> Thanks for your help
> Tristan
>

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Re: [tw] Re: How to transclude external tiddlers in TW5

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Hi Jeremy,

This is the message I see in the tiddler:



> Loading external text from *./test.tid*
>
> If this message doesn't disappear you may be using a browser that doesn't 
> support external text in this configuration. See http:
> //tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText
>
>
>
>
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 10:46:34 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> There's supposed to be the ability to link to external tid files using 
> _canonical_uri. However, it doesn't work on my very latest FF, so not sure 
> where it does work. I notice that the link to 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText doesn't exist, so maybe the idea was 
> dropped..
>
>
> The documentation is missing, but the feature is present. There are some 
> notes in the release tiddler for the version when the feature was released:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.10
>
> To test it, try visiting this link:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Alice%20in%20Wonderland
>
> If you see the full text of “Alice in Wonderland”, then it is working. 
> Basically, the tiddler has a _canonical_uri field pointing to a .tid file.
>
> The only browser-specific limitation I’m aware of is that Chrome won’t 
> display external tiddlers when the TiddlyWiki is loaded from a file:// URI. 
> But there are many other gotchas that make external tiddlers pretty tricky 
> to work with if one is only working in the standalone configuration.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> You might look at Tobias Beer's <> plugin and see if it's want 
> you want: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#external
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 3:16:36 AM UTC-7, David Myers wrote:
>>
>> Hello All.
>>
>> First of all I would like to thank all those who have worked on 
>> TiddlyWiki ~ suffice to say I love it lots and lots.
>>
>> Recently I've started a number of TiddlyWiki files and I often want to 
>> include them into one another.
>>
>> I know that I can 'import' and external TiddlyWiki from the Tools > 
>> Import menu in the side bar.
>>
>> However  would like to be able to 'transclude' an external wiki into my 
>> current one.
>>
>> My use case:
>>
>> I am writing my thesis, and use TW to take notes.
>> I use zotero and BibTex for storing my references. Whic I then import 
>> (one at a time) using inmysocks Citations Plugin 
>> 
>> However I keep all my citations in a single tiddlywiki file, and then 
>> simply import this file into each of my other TiddlyWiki notebooks.
>>
>> This works fine, but I would really appreciate a way for the TW with the 
>> references / citations in to auto update into the currently open TW file 
>> (much like how transcluding a tiddler mean I only need a single copy of it 
>> and any updates I make are seen wherever it is transcluded.
>> This functionality exists in TW classic using the SharedTiddlerPlugin or 
>> ExternalTiddlersPlugin etc, but currently doesn't seem to be availabe in 
>> TW5 (or have I missed something ?)
>>
>> Another option would be to add in an 'import' button to do this 
>> automatically with this specified file.
>>
>> I found the loadTiddlersFromFile function, but I'm not sure how to call 
>> it directly from within the a tiddler. I could place a 'button' within the 
>> local references tiddler that could point to the external file.
>>
>> If anyone can give me any pointers that would be great, I'm fairly new to 
>> working on TW.
>>
>>
>> to this end I attemtped to find the JS code in the empty tiddlywiki file, 
>> but I can't seem to find it, as it doesn't seem to be called 'load' or 
>> 'import'
>>
>
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Re: [tw] A way to make Canonical URI more flexible?

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Hello Jeremy,

I hacked a test TW, and found that I could change the base with .

So the question is, is there any tiddler where I could put the HTML  
code and have it invoked when the TW is loaded? Manually hacking the source 
code is a bit inconvenient.

Changing  also changes the base of any relative external links. So 
you would have to choose between getting _canonical_uri right or getting 
your links right.

Ideally you would have multiple bases, and images using _canonical_uri 
would switch bases depending on tags or other criteria.

The point of all this is to make it possible to use TW on different 
platforms where resources (images, pdfs, etc.)  may have to reside in 
completely different locations.

Thanks!
Mark 

On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 12:45:18 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Is there a way to easily change the base path of  _canonical_uri ?
>
>
> There’s no such capability at the moment, but it’s an interesting 
> suggestion.
>
> As a quick fix, you may be able to use the HTML  element:
>
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/HTML/Element/base
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> I tried something easy like this, but of course it didn't work:
>
> {{$:/MAS/DefaultImagePath}}/2016/maps/map-satel-nwlr2-folo-stalewater.png
>
> But maybe there's some other way to do this with macros or templates?
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
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[tw] A way to make Canonical URI more flexible?

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Is there a way to easily change the base path of  _canonical_uri ?

I tried something easy like this, but of course it didn't work:

{{$:/MAS/DefaultImagePath}}/2016/maps/map-satel-nwlr2-folo-stalewater.png

But maybe there's some other way to do this with macros or templates?

Thanks!
Mark

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Re: [tw] A way to make Canonical URI more flexible?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jeremy,

That seems to work -- and it turns out to be pretty important -- TW wrote 
over (fixed?) my hand edited code when I saved!

Thanks again,
Mark

On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 9:19:12 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> So the question is, is there any tiddler where I could put the HTML  
> code and have it invoked when the TW is loaded? Manually hacking the source 
> code is a bit inconvenient.
>
>
> Try creating a tiddler tagged $:/tags/RawMarkup containing the  tag.
>
>
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[tw] Re: Beginner trying to do some simple formatting in a TW5

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That's probably the best way unless it's really, really important that the 
text always stay to the right. If you squeeze the column enough, eventually 
the lines under CSS will go under the picture.

If you do it your way, then you can also go back to using TW5 formatting, 
so you get:

>
> @@float:left;padding-right:10px;padding-left:10px;[img width=120 [Henry B. 
> Eyring|https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg]]@@
>  
>
>
> !!Where Two or Three Are Gathered
> !!!President Henry B. Eyring - First Counselor in the First Presidency
>
>
On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 1:23:49 PM UTC-7, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Indeed, for #3 you could use pure CSS, as Mark suggests. Here's one way to 
> achieve that, without the need for a table or a separate stylesheet
>
> @@float:left;padding-right:10px;[img width=120 [Henry B. Eyring|
> https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg
> ]]@@ Where Two or Three Are Gathered President Henry B. Eyring - 
> First Counselor in the First Presidency
>
> I've reused Mark's example code, but you'll notice here I simply surround 
> the image invocation with an inline CSS block, using the @@..@@ as Mark 
> did, but listing the CSS elements right there on the same tiddler, rather 
> than invoking a separate stylesheet.
>
> HTH
> Hegart.
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 April 2016 05:34:06 UTC+12, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> For #3, I assume that you want the same two lines to always be to the 
>> right of the image. Someone else could probably think of a way to do it 
>> with pure CSS, but I would use a table.
>>
>> So for the table I might have:
>>
>> @@.imgtable
>> |[img width=120 [Henry B. Eyring|https://
>> www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg]]|
>>  
>> Where
>>  
>> Two or Three Are Gathered President Henry B. Eyring - First 
>> Counselor in the First Presidency|
>>
>> @@
>>
>> and then add this to the stylesheet tiddler
>>
>>  .imgtable td {
>> vertical-align: top ;
>> border-style: none ;
>>
>> }
>> .imgtable {
>> border-style: none ;
>> border-collapse:collapse;
>> }
>>
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-7, Marc wrote:
>>>
>>> I really love TW5 and try to do it in my college classes. I try to keep 
>>> things simple so the students can get comfortable. 
>>>
>>> I am not a great coder. Neither are my students. I am looking for help 
>>> with some simple formatting help. See the graphic below.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> I assume that this can all be done in the CSS and have been looking at 
>>> email posts but if you can give it to me simply I would really appreciate 
>>> any help.
>>>
>>> Thank you for a great and powerful product,
>>>
>>> Marc Ferguson
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: Beginner trying to do some simple formatting in a TW5

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Google is your (sometimes) friend. The LDS is  a major denomination, and 
"Eyring" is a fairly unique name. Had the name been "Joseph Smith", all 
bets would be off ;-)

On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 6:16:34 PM UTC-7, Marc wrote:
>
> Wow, thank you all for the help It looks beautiful!
>
> I don't think I gave you the references to the website.  Were you watching 
> this talk???
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:05 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> That's probably the best way unless it's really, really important that 
>> the text always stay to the right. If you squeeze the column enough, 
>> eventually the lines under CSS will go under the picture.
>>
>> If you do it your way, then you can also go back to using TW5 formatting, 
>> so you get:
>>
>>>
>>> @@float:left;padding-right:10px;padding-left:10px;[img width=120 [Henry 
>>> B. Eyring|https://
>>> www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg]]@@
>>>  
>>> <http://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg%5D%5D@@>
>>>  
>>>
>>> !!Where Two or Three Are Gathered
>>> !!!President Henry B. Eyring - First Counselor in the First Presidency
>>>
>>>
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 1:23:49 PM UTC-7, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed, for #3 you could use pure CSS, as Mark suggests. Here's one way 
>>> to achieve that, without the need for a table or a separate stylesheet
>>>
>>> @@float:left;padding-right:10px;[img width=120 [Henry B. Eyring|
>>> https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg
>>> ]]@@ Where Two or Three Are Gathered President Henry B. Eyring 
>>> - First Counselor in the First Presidency
>>>
>>> I've reused Mark's example code, but you'll notice here I simply 
>>> surround the image invocation with an inline CSS block, using the @@..@@ as 
>>> Mark did, but listing the CSS elements right there on the same tiddler, 
>>> rather than invoking a separate stylesheet.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Hegart.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 21 April 2016 05:34:06 UTC+12, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For #3, I assume that you want the same two lines to always be to the 
>>>> right of the image. Someone else could probably think of a way to do it 
>>>> with pure CSS, but I would use a table.
>>>>
>>>> So for the table I might have:
>>>>
>>>> @@.imgtable
>>>> |[img width=120 [Henry B. Eyring|https://
>>>> www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg]]|
>>>>  
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lds.org%2Fbc%2Fcontent%2Fshared%2Fcontent%2Fimages%2Fleaders%2Fhenry-b-eyring-large.jpg%255D%255D%257C=D=1=AFQjCNF8tee9DWm0e6Lh26RQgLlKzNp7LQ>Where
>>>>  
>>>> Two or Three Are Gathered President Henry B. Eyring - First 
>>>> Counselor in the First Presidency|
>>>>
>>>> @@
>>>>
>>>> and then add this to the stylesheet tiddler
>>>>
>>>>  .imgtable td {
>>>> vertical-align: top ;
>>>> border-style: none ;
>>>>
>>>> }
>>>> .imgtable {
>>>> border-style: none ;
>>>> border-collapse:collapse;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-7, Marc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I really love TW5 and try to do it in my college classes. I try to 
>>>>> keep things simple so the students can get comfortable. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a great coder. Neither are my students. I am looking for help 
>>>>> with some simple formatting help. See the graphic below.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume that this can all be done in the CSS and have been looking at 
>>>>> email posts but if you can give it to me simply I would really appreciate 
>>>>> any help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for a great and powerful product,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc Ferguson
>>>>>
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Re: [tw] How to transclude external tiddlers in TW5

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

So,  should _canonical_uri work on external files? Or should we expect 
browsers to block it?

It does *not* work on mine. I get 


Loading external text from *test.tid*
>
> If this message doesn't disappear you may be using a browser that doesn't 
> support external text in this configuration. See 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText
>
>
> The test.tid is in the same directory as the TW file. Changing the 
extension to .txt does not help.


*This occurs in TW5 5.1.11 in  Firefox 43.0.1 under Windows 7.*
Thanks,
Mark
 

On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 8:03:14 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> I guess we need to create a 'specification' for the process.
>
>
> This is a case where the problem isn’t the lack of a spec, but figuring 
> out a way to make the thing work; as noted in my previous reply, browsers 
> restrict file access quite heavily these days. When one is working with the 
> single file, standalone configuration of TiddlyWiki, the restrictions 
> imposed by browsers end up driving almost all of the major design decisions 
> :(
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> @Jeremy.
> Do you have a system in place for designing the spec for new functionality 
> ?
> Is this a function that you think you may like to have ?
>
> I would really love to help with this, but I'm fairly charged with my 
> thesis at the moment (implementing a new data integration / visualisation / 
> sharing / analysis system for a distributed teams of medical researchers 
> trying to find a new HIV vaccine).
>
> David
>
>
> D
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Hegart Dmishiv  > wrote:
>
>> Bit of a bump here. I haven't gotten any further with this yet, and I'd 
>> really like to. Here's a screenshot of what I'd like to achieve. If anyone 
>> can help make it happen, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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[tw] Re: To Jeremy Ruston - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...

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Yes... I was wondering about that too.

It's like running into a crowded theater and yelling, "Does anyone know 
where the fire extinguisher is?"

Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 7:14:18 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
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> What conversations are you referring to? I haven't seen anyone saying that 
> we should move toward a server model for anything. 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

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I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your TW, 
can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and display a 
particular story? How will having the list in a separate tiddler help you 
share metadata?

It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers but the 
contents of the tiddlers as well -- basically an export.

Thanks,
Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mat, 
> thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all snapshots are 
> saved in one tiddler.
> I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary because 
> I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want to be able to 
> exchange these stories with other users of the Project.
> Is it possible to change the code
>
> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
> (SaveStory)*
>
> \define saveSnapshot()
> <$button
> set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
> setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
> {{$:/core/images/done-button}}
> Save
> \end
>
>
> *-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
> closing all others.(OpenStory)*
>
> \define loadSnapshot() <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" 
> setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}> {{$:/core/images/right-arrow}} 
> Load \end
>
> -Jan
>
>
>
> Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:
>
> Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help? 
>
>
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would 
>> need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would 
>> need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows 
>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new 
>> Tiddler, and (SaveStory)*
>> * -to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
>> closing all others. (OpenStory)*
>> I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.
>>
>> Yours Jan 
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

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Hello,

Technically, this modification of matebele's version does just what you 
want:

\define saveSnapshot()
<$button> Save Snapshot
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" 
$value={{$:/StoryList!!list}} 
tags="Snapshot">

\end

\define showSnapshot()
<$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$(snap)$}}>Show Snapshot
\end

;Show Snapshot

<$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field="
story-name" default='(none)'>
<$list filter="[tag[Snapshot]]" variable="currentIndex">
>><>


<$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
<>


;Save Snapshot

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/_snapshots" 
field="story-name"/>
<$set name="snapshot" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
<>


Be sure to back up before trying this! You will need to create an 
additional tiddler $:/_snapshots. 

But I'm guessing that you won't like the way it works -- all the tiddlers 
are listed one after another in a single line rather than in list. I 
imagine it will take a javáscript macro to be able to make it into a 
standard list.

Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:24:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello Mark,
> I am working on a collection of excercises for theatre-classes. 
> Tiddlers describing Exercises are combined for lessons vía stories. 
> Thus the stories - like shold be tagged to sort them and described which 
> aim shall be achieved. 
> The idea is to work together on this collection and to exchange exercises 
> and lessons. It is necessary to import just the new storytiddler (and the 
> tiddlers that don't exist yet, but that's another task) in order not to 
> make a mess.
> If you are interested  the in TWC version here it  is(alas in german): 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/837chmzhxky7wjm/DS%20Arbeitsfassung.html?dl=0
> If you type storydemo in the searchfield you see the kind of storytiddler 
> I would like to generate. This one was generated automatically which 
> collects information from fields in the tiddlers of the story...
>
> Thanks for your interest
> Jan
>
>
>
>
> Am 27.04.2016 um 22:06 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your TW, 
> can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and display a 
> particular story? How will having the list in a separate tiddler help you 
> share metadata?
>
> It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers but 
> the contents of the tiddlers as well -- basically an export.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Mat, 
>> thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all snapshots 
>> are saved in one tiddler.
>> I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary because 
>> I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want to be able to 
>> exchange these stories with other users of the Project.
>> Is it possible to change the code
>>
>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
>> (SaveStory)*
>>
>> \define saveSnapshot()
>> <$button
>> set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
>> setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
>> {{$:/core/images/done-button}}
>> Save
>> \end
>>
>>
>> *-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
>> closing all others.(OpenStory)*
>>
>> \define loadSnapshot() <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" 
>> setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}> {{$:/core/images/right-arrow}} 
>> Load \end
>>
>> -Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:
>>
>> Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help? 
>>
>>
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would 
>>> need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would 
>>> need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows 
>>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new 
>>> Tiddler, and (SaveStory)*
>>> * -to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
>>> closing all others. (OpenStory)*
>>> I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.
>>>
>>> Yours Jan 
>>>
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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The NS_ERROR_FAILURE seems to still be there with the undo buttons. Might 
be better to not have the buttons than to have the error box.

Mark

On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>
> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>
> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
> problems: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>
> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
> resources that are not currently linked from 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
> request. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

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Hello Jan,

I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at least it's not mentioned in 
the docs.

And I don't think you can capture the nicely formatted list and tuck it 
into a tiddler. It would be cool if you could.

But I think what you could do is save your stories in the list field of 
tiddlers. Then set up a Conditional Template that would display the 
tiddlers almost the way you are doing here. See Tobias Beer's site 
"http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Conditional 
ViewTemplate Section" 
<http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Conditional%20ViewTemplate%20Section> for 
details on Conditional Templates.

Change your previous code to save lists in the list field of the snapshot 
tiddlers instead of in the text field.

Set up your view template so that it displays any tiddler having the tag 
"Snapshot" and contains a list. You would have something like this:

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[Snapshot]has[list]]">
<$list filter="[list[]!tag[excludeStory]]"><$link><$view 
field="title"/>


Now when you view the snapshot tiddlers, you'll see the story list you want 
in a nice linked list, minus any tiddlers that have been excluded with the 
tag "excludeStory".

HTH
Mark


On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:10:30 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I think I would like to do a solution with a small detour:
> 1. Create a ShadowTiddler called [[Snapshot]] which contains the Story 
> like this:
>  {{{[split:list{$:/StoryList!!list}]}}}
>  Question: How can I exclude the Tiddlers Tagged with excludeStory? 
>

 

> 2. How can set the value of 
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=  
> tags="Snapshot">
> to the clickyfied Text of [[Snapshot]]
>
> Thanks...
> Jan
>
>
>
> Am 28.04.2016 um 04:15 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> Hello,
>
> Technically, this modification of matebele's version does just what you 
> want:
>
> \define saveSnapshot()
> <$button> Save Snapshot
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=  
> tags="Snapshot">
> 
> \end
>
> \define showSnapshot()
> <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$(snap)$}}>Show Snapshot<
> /$button>
> \end
>
> ;Show Snapshot
>
> <$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field="
> story-name" default='(none)'>
> <$list filter="[tag[Snapshot]]" variable="currentIndex">
> >><>
> 
> 
> <$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
> <>
> 
>
> ;Save Snapshot
>
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/_snapshots" 
> field="story-name"/>
> <$set name="snapshot" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
> <>
> 
>
> Be sure to back up before trying this! You will need to create an 
> additional tiddler $:/_snapshots. 
>
> But I'm guessing that you won't like the way it works -- all the tiddlers 
> are listed one after another in a single line rather than in list. I 
> imagine it will take a javáscript macro to be able to make it into a 
> standard list.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:24:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>> I am working on a collection of excercises for theatre-classes. 
>> Tiddlers describing Exercises are combined for lessons vía stories. 
>> Thus the stories - like shold be tagged to sort them and described which 
>> aim shall be achieved. 
>> The idea is to work together on this collection and to exchange exercises 
>> and lessons. It is necessary to import just the new storytiddler (and the 
>> tiddlers that don't exist yet, but that's another task) in order not to 
>> make a mess.
>> If you are interested  the in TWC version here it  is(alas in german): 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/837chmzhxky7wjm/DS%20Arbeitsfassung.html?dl=0
>> If you type storydemo in the searchfield you see the kind of storytiddler 
>> I would like to generate. This one was generated automatically which 
>> collects information from fields in the tiddlers of the story...
>>
>> Thanks for your interest
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2016 um 22:06 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your TW, 
>> can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and display a 
>> particular story? How will having the list in a separate tiddler help you 
>> share metadata?
>>
>> It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers but 
>> the content

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Reference first X characters in a tiddler title?

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Ok, you can try this, but be sure to backup your TW!

Drag and drop the attached file into your TW. Save and reload.

I've included at test tiddler, but the syntax for usage is:

<$set name="size" value="4">
<]">>


You have to set a variable "size" for this to work because TW filter 
operators will not accept variable parameters.

If you are editing, the preview will show you (in this example) everything 
that starts with "Draf" because the title of an edited tiddler is "Draft of 
..." I suppose I could make a work-around for that, but it would only work 
in English.

Have fun. Be careful.
Mark

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-7, Matthew Petty wrote:
>
> So if I was in a tiddler called "Home improvements", and wanted to return 
> a list of tiddlers with the prefix "Home", I could do this:
>
> <>
>
> But I want to be able to put the list-links command in a skeleton or a 
> macro, so that I don't need to hard-code it.
>
> The first step would be to be able to have a command that returns the 
> first X characters of a field. Then that field could be the current 
> tiddler's title. Then that could be used as the required prefix.
>
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:31 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki, <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to understand exactly what you want. Perhaps an example of 
>> input data and output results would be helpful?
>>
>> The way you've written it, it looks like you want the filter, selecting 
>> the tiddlers, to change on the fly according to the already selected/listed 
>> tiddler. This gets you into a loop, which can't be right. Possibly what you 
>> really want is some sort of grouping?
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-7, Matthew Petty wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a way to reference the first 4 characters in a tiddler title?
>>> For example: <]">>
>>> This would help with my journals, which are named  MM DD etc, but 
>>> would also be very useful elsewhere.
>>>
>>> As an extension, it could be used to set year, month and day fields for 
>>> these journal tiddlers, rather than relying on the title for this 
>>> information.
>>>
>>> -Matthew
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Markdown plugin still interpreting wiki text

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Did you set content-type to Markdown? The plugin doesn't make Markdown the 
default, it just makes it a choice.

Mark

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 8:28:44 AM UTC-7, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Firefox v43 on Windows 7
>
> I saved a copy of the TW with the Markdown plugin on my C: drive. When I 
> added a tiddler, and some markdown text, and closed the new tiddler, TW is 
> interpreting my markdown as wikitext, not as markdown. Is there something I 
> have to turn on first? 
>
> Just like in the TW markdown example, I use 1-3 hashes, a space, then my 
> header text. It gets interpreted as a list item with indented list items.  
> Example of markdown that I entered in my new tiddler: 
>
> # Header 1
>
> ## Header 2
>
> ### Header 3
>
>
>
>
> Thank you. 
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Reference first X characters in a tiddler title?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm trying to understand exactly what you want. Perhaps an example of input 
data and output results would be helpful?

The way you've written it, it looks like you want the filter, selecting the 
tiddlers, to change on the fly according to the already selected/listed 
tiddler. This gets you into a loop, which can't be right. Possibly what you 
really want is some sort of grouping?

Good luck!
Mark

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-7, Matthew Petty wrote:
>
> Is there a way to reference the first 4 characters in a tiddler title?
> For example: <]">>
> This would help with my journals, which are named  MM DD etc, but 
> would also be very useful elsewhere.
>
> As an extension, it could be used to set year, month and day fields for 
> these journal tiddlers, rather than relying on the title for this 
> information.
>
> -Matthew
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

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Let me revise that, since I was using Pale Moon instead of FF.

On FF 43.0.1 the arrows don't seem to do anything, but at least don't give 
the NS error. Maybe they work in other browsers so they're worth having 
around.

Mark

On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:39:30 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The NS_ERROR_FAILURE seems to still be there with the undo buttons. Might 
> be better to not have the buttons than to have the error box.
>
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
>> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
>> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
>> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>>
>> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>>
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>>
>> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
>> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
>> problems: 
>>
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>>
>> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
>> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
>> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
>> resources that are not currently linked from 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
>> request. 
>>
>> Best wishes 
>>
>> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The start of an encyclopedia edition

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Hi Jed,

What technique or filter syntax can you use to search a tag-like field for 
a value? That is, what is the equivalent of [tag[Root]] for a field like 
"useful_parts" ?

Thanks!
Mark

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 3:43:52 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Or something like an encyclopedia edition anyway. I am planning on 
> building on what I made for the medical plants monograph idea. The current 
> very undeveloped version is here 
> .
>
> The idea is to have different entry types with templates to create and 
> view each one, then the GenTags are used to sort and search through them. I 
> don't have a very concrete idea for what a lot of it will be so suggestions 
> are welcome.
>
> And some of this will probably be used for twederation, addressing and 
> giving things labels and so on.
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The filter Mario is suggesting doesn't exist -- that's why it doesn't work.

I guess I wonder how often anyone needs this particular functionality?

Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:54:27 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Mario,
>
> If I were to try sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/], how would you suggest I 
> integrate it into the list I have at the moment?
>
> If this is the basic form:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> Where would sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/] go in the code? At the least:
>
> <$list 
> filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sortbydate:finished[DD/MM/]]">
>
> Does not seem to work.
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

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Wow, that's really cool. And you did all that on a tablet?

To turn it into a standardized database application, could those use and 
part options come from a drop down list?

Without a standardized list, what happens is that you get variant spellings 
for the same thing (e.g. "Leaves" vs "leafs", "antispetic" vs "antiseptic") 
Those variants will make analyzing the data later much harder.

Mark

On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 1:32:44 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I would also recommend TiddlyMap, but it may get a bit unwieldy if you 
> have 300 nodes. 
>
> I doubt that anything will be finished in time to be very useful by 
> monday, but I am hoping to make a generic encyclopedia model for TiddlyWiki 
> using a lot of things I have made 
> . While it isn't 
> immediately obvious a lot of the functionality you want is already in what 
> I made. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems with TiddlyWiki at the 
> moment is the difficultly going from understanding the very basic use as 
> something like a journal or linked notebook to understanding more complex 
> uses. We are working on it.
>
> In the meantime, everything in your list (all the plants belonging to X 
> family, listing all plants with medicinal "root bark", etc.) can be done 
> relatively simply using what you inspired me to make from your request (
> here 
> ).
>  
> I am working to find a reasonable way for someone who isn't familiar with 
> TiddlyWiki to use them effectively.
>
> Once I get the new changes added into the encyclopedia demo I made than 
> just clicking on the tag pill for each section will list everything that 
> has that entry. So everything that has antiseptic listed under uses will 
> appear if you click on the pill antiseptic in the uses list.
> There are other ways it will be able to be sorted or searched through as 
> well, like a drop down menu where you can select from all the uses to get a 
> list of things that match it.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyClip install in FF 46

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Per a previous post, a signed version is here:

https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/blob/master/tiddlyclip-0.0.9-fx%2Ban.xpi


On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 8:46:41 AM UTC-7, kenrob wrote:
>
> Questions for BJ.
>
> G'day BJ,
>
> I went to give TiddlyClip a try but struck a couple of problems.
>
> Firefox (46.0.1) complains that the XPI (linked from 
> tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com) isn't signed.  (Although there's a workaround 
> by fiddling about:config.)  However once the XPI does install FF disables 
> it stating "tiddlyclip could not be verified for use in Firefox and has 
> been disabled."
>
> It's obvious that plenty other people are successfully using TC, but I 
> can't see how to get past the installation issue.  Can you advise?
>
> --  
> Regards  
> Ken   
>

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[tw] Re: Automatic Linking, possible in TiddlyWiki?

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You wouldn't have to update all the tiddlers -- just the tiddlers you 
wanted to view AND needed to be up-to-date. If the user wanted to be sure 
that all links in the specified tiddler were current, they would edit/save 
the tiddler. Or there could be a tool that would be occasionally run to 
bring all the tiddlers up to date. This way the work-flow would only be 
interrupted on an as-needed basis.

Mark 

On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 11:45:48 AM UTC-7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> This has been discussed several times. It is doable, but it would be too 
> costly to do it in real time. This means that you can write a plugin that 
> creates links when you save the tiddler, but once you add new content you 
> will be forced to update all the Tiddlers. It's not an easy task 

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[tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

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I get a blank screen when I try to open it in Pale Moon or Firefox. I guess 
it *is* very clean ...

Mark

On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 10:47:14 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> After having very recently discovered the term Personal Knowledge Base 
> , (yes, surprising 
> considering how this is probably THE most appropriate "term" for describing 
> TW - much better than "notebook" IMO), I just now stumbled over this 
> fascinating UI for one (atypical!) such;
>
> http://intuitionanalytics.com/other/knowledgeDatabase/
>
> Wow! ...to say the least. While I assume whole the UI isn't everyone's cup 
> 'o tea, the accessibility to the content is very impressive. 
>
>
> Some perhaps easy-to-miss bits;
>
> The lines illustrate category unisons,
>
> The seeming "headlines" reading "OR filter" are really buttons to toggle 
> filter logic.
>
> I''m guessing the left-lower thing is a time line (with adjustable span).
>
>
> <:-)
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How list current tags but excepting some of them

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think "get" must return everything as one string rather than a list of 
objects. I notice that the <> appears on one line, even if you insert 
a . But  this seems to work:

[tags[]] -[[aa]]


Mark

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 5:46:42 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Gaaah! This is just driving me crazy! I simply want to:
>
>  list the current tiddlers tags with some of them removed so I can perform 
> operations with the remaining ones.
>
> As illustrated here (except this doesn't work)
>
>
> <$list filter="[get[tags]remove[aa]]" variable="item">
> <>
> 
>
> One reason why it doesn't work is, I think, because "remove" is a listop 
> and the previous step is not in list form. But then... 
>
> "[list[{currentTiddler!!tags}]] +[remove[aa]]"
>
> ...doesn't work either. Nor do a big bunch of other combos I've tried.
>
> I wish to avoid nested listings.
>
> ATM I only neet do remove one tag (here "aa").from the list
>
>
> Please help.
>
>
> <:-)
>
>
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[tw] Re: Text-slicer error

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Me too.

Firefox 43.0.1 and Pale Moon 25.8.1 on Windows 7.

Mark

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:01:20 AM UTC-7, peuhpeuh singe wrote:
>
> When I try to use the text slicer icon at http://tiddlywiki.com/
> prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.htm,l I get the following message 
> error: 
>
> 
> "
> Internal JavaScript Error
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> TypeError: event.paramObject is undefined
> "
>
> does anyone knows how I can handle this ?
>
> thks in advance.
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[tw] Re: Why does the tag field not display in certain tiddlers?

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The tiddler is folded. Unfold it and your tags will show up.

HTH
Mark


On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 7:42:59 PM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> In 
> http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#Themes%20in%20John%20by%20passage 
> (part of an ambitious project far from completion), you will see there are 
> several tiddlers in chapter 7 of the list that don't display the tag field 
> and appear as single spaced. When you go to one of those tiddlers that has 
> tags (eg 
> http://giffmex.org/gospels.bubbles.html#John%2007.25-30%20-%20Where%20Jesus%20is%20from),
>  
> you will see that the tags do not display in view mode, only in edit mode.
>
> Any idea why these few tiddlers don't play by the rules? I am mystified.
>
> Dave
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

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Hi Jeremy,

Using http://keycode.info/, I find that that site doesn't work at all for 
Pale Moon. Odd.

On Fire Fox, it breaks the sequence into each step. So

Shift == 16
Ins == 45

It does not report that Shift-Ins (together) as different from Shift-Ins as 
two step sequences. 

Although the browser may do the paste/cut, the TW5 application must be 
grabbing key sequences. Shift-INS works in the old (current) TW5, but not 
in the new (pre-release) TW5 ... in the SAME browser.

Thanks!
Mark

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:17:51 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> When I look at the keyboard shortcuts, I notice that there aren't any for 
> cut/paste. 
>
>
> No, the cut/copy/paste keyboard shortcuts are implemented by the browser.
>
> On FF in Windows, Ctl-V still works, but Shift-INS (which personally I 
> never use) is not working in the pre-release. Shift-INS does work in the 
> current full release version, so I assume it has something to do with the 
> short-cut handling. That is, the short-cut handler is "eating" all the 
> keystrokes, but only sending on certain ones.
>
>
> I can’t test this as I don’t have access to a Windows PC; I usually test 
> in a VM on the Mac, but that doesn’t give me an “INS” key.
>
> It would be helpful if you could use this site and report back the 
> keycodes you get for the “INS” key in Firefox and other browsers:
>
> http://keycode.info
>
> Maybe if cut/paste were added to the configuration shortcuts, people could 
> add whatever keys they thought most intuitive?
>
>
> The trouble is that the implementation of those copy and paste shortcuts 
> would be the same execCommand() call that has caused us such problems with 
> Undo/Redo.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>  
> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:21:55 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>
>> So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
>> shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.
>>
>> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, 
>> thank you for the off switch as well :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

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Hi Jeremy,

When I look at the keyboard shortcuts, I notice that there aren't any for 
cut/paste. 

On FF in Windows, Ctl-V still works, but Shift-INS (which personally I 
never use) is not working in the pre-release. Shift-INS does work in the 
current full release version, so I assume it has something to do with the 
short-cut handling. That is, the short-cut handler is "eating" all the 
keystrokes, but only sending on certain ones.

Maybe if cut/paste were added to the configuration shortcuts, people could 
add whatever keys they thought most intuitive?

Thanks!
Mark
 
On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:21:55 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>
> So, perhaps it would be useful if you could review the default keyboard 
> shortcuts and provide some feedback so that we can improve them together.
>
> Also, Shift-Ins (paste) is not working. I prefer that over Ctrl-V. So, 
> thank you for the off switch as well :)
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

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Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in my 
rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated with 
commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more hacking 
might be in order.

Mark

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from splitting? I 
> was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which has a comma in it 
> like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss that in using your 
> code, I get: 
>
> "Here is some text<--- body 
> here is more   <--- custom field
>
> I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just to 
> see if that produced a different response. Nope. 
>
> Best, 
>
> LG 
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>>
>> Hello, Mark!
>>
>> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I realized 
>> the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then saving. Then it 
>> worked smoothly. 
>>
>> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> LG
>>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE 
>>> SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as a 
>>> helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the code 
>>> so that it does everything at once.
>>>
>>> Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload your 
>>> TW.
>>>
>>> Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper". 
>>> Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the CSV 
>>> data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If 
>>> you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date stamps 
>>> at this point. 
>>>
>>> If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear 
>>> below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate file 
>>> with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to 
>>> convert. This is the part that could use some more automation. 
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:

 Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot *figure 
 out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells me 
 I 
 need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL 
 into 
 my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site. 

 How do I do this?

>>>

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[tw] Re: TW5: Exporting/Print to File

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

It's a little unclear whether you're talking a single tiddler or multple 
tiddlers.

For a single tiddler, you can try the export tool (from the tiddler's 
toolbar select export) in *static.html *mode. Save to a file somewhere. 
Then open in Word (I just tried this in MS Word 2013). The formatting looks 
pretty good on mine.

Good luck
Mark

On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 8:44:44 AM UTC-7, Shaw McAllan wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a quick way of getting individual tiddlers into a 
> printable, portable format?
>  
> Background: my boss loves the wiki...but wants a paper version for the 
> procedures she's responsible for each month.  I thought I could simply open 
> the tiddler in a new window, choose "Print" and the "print to file"...but 
> it's not that simple.  Our company uses WYSE terminals which, according to 
> our I.T. dept, don't allow "Print to File" for anything other than .prn 
> files.
>  
> Due to the wyse terminal setup, the wiki is running in the .hta mode 
> rather than as an html file.
>  
> I tried exporting as html but Adobe wouldn't open it. I tried opening it 
> in Word but the formatting went haywire - I'd be quicker copying/pasting 
> from the wiki straight into Word and formatting from scratch than doing 
> that again.  Exporting as a .tid doesn't help me either.
>  
> I need a simple process for getting the tiddlers into a presentable format 
> for saving and printing.  
>  
>  
> Anyone any ideas?
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[tw] Re: Solution for Importing Entries (csv/json) from the Zotero Bibliography Tool.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Congratulations Jan. The good thing about the name Zotero, is that anyone 
looking for your solution will have an excellent chance of finding it. 

On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 1:56:18 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mark, dear scientific users of TW.
> In the search of a way to create Tiddlers from a 
> Zotero/Mendeley/...-Bibliography I found a solution.
> In the attachment you find a csl-template, wich supports the export into 
> something, that can manually be transformed into a Json-file which will 
> create Tiddlers for each chosen Film or Videostream.
> That's my UseCase for now. I will do other formats later or quicker on 
> demand If someone asks.
> The description is in the Readme.
>
> Cheers Jan
>
> PS: 
> Dear Mark
> your were right in your analysis. Your Plugin now works fine. Despite I 
> decided that CSVs as export format are to vulnerable for my usecase.
> J
>
> Am 16.05.2016 um 01:33 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> The entry with "Monty Pythons Flying Circus" is missing a title (or a 
> director, depending on if you meant for MPFC to be director or title).
>
> All fields need to be present, though they can be empty. An empty field 
> would represented by empty double quotes. So that particular entry might be 
> represented as:
>
> "motion_picture","Monty Pythons Flying Circus","","30 
> min","05.10.1969","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>
> (Assuming MPFC was the 'directory').
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 4:11:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hallo Mark,
>> Your Example works fine now, the code does not cause crashes anymore, but 
>> it gives me your error-message for this:
>>
>> type,director,title,length,launch,tags
>> "motion_picture","Hans Richter","Ghosts Before Breakfast","6 
>> min","14.07.1928","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>> "motion_picture","Monty Pythons Flying Circus","30 
>> min","05.10.1969","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>> "motion_picture","John Mc Tiernan","Predator","107 
>> min","12.06.1987","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>> "motion_picture","Paul Verhoeven","Robo Cop","102 
>> min","17.07.1987","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>> "motion_picture","Peter Greenaway","The Draughtsmans Contract","108 
>> min","30.06.1983","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>> "motion_picture","James Cameron","The Terminator","107 
>> min","26.10.1984","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>>
>> I have no clue why...
>>
>> Thanks for your endurance, 
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 15.05.2016 um 03:38 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> Although you copied it from the list, when you pasted it in you already 
>> had a line in place. Or you selected an extra line feed. So if you check, 
>> you'll see that there is one "invisible" line at the bottom of your input 
>> tiddler that is choking the program. When/If I do an update, I'll have to 
>> add checking code to toss out bad lines.
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 6:32:22 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> the last string I tested was:
>>>
>>> title,tags,text,birth,death
>>> "John Smith","English male,Therapist","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"
>>>
>>> because I wanted to see it work...
>>> This means I copypasted it right from the mail to the field...
>>>
>>> Yours Jan
>>>
>>> Am 15.05.2016 um 01:22 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>
>>> Can you share the lines that crashed it?  I would guess that you either 
>>> have an empty field or a blank line somewhere.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mark,
>>>> It crashed when I used 6 arrays with 5 entries...and it still crashed 
>>>> when I pasted a single line. 
>>>> The errorcode is: TypeError: araLine[j] is undefined
>>>>
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[tw] Re: Importing Entries (csv/json) from the Zotero Bibliography Tool.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

So how did the csv2json crash? I imagine if you try to convert too much at 
once there will be problems.

A quick look online suggests that the zotero RDF format may have more 
fields than the json export. RDF is (usually) just a text format (XML) so 
you could browse it and see if it contains everything you want. 

If you have your data in the form of a table, what some people have done is 
to load it into a spreadsheet. Then add columns and rows to "decorate" the 
data so that it looks like a JSON file. Then copy the whole thing as text 
(usually need "copy as" functionality) and then paste into a text file to 
create your json file to import.

HTH
Mark


On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 5:17:18 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hallo,
> has anyone discovered a workflow of exporting entries from a 
> Zotero-Library and reimporting them as Tiddlers.
> Although Zotero is able to create a json file, this is not packing the 
> interesting Data like autor and year, but useless information.
> I had big trouble importing the CSVs, but finally the render as Tables.
> Unfortunately they crash the MAS/csv2json.js 
> 
> -plugin...
>
> -Is there a way of generating tiddlers from a table within a tiddler?
> -Should i use a different format than json and csv to start with?
> -Has anyone experience with the Zotero  xul-editor to produce a better 
> .json-export?
> Jan
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Importing Entries (csv/json) from the Zotero Bibliography Tool.

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The entry with "Monty Pythons Flying Circus" is missing a title (or a 
director, depending on if you meant for MPFC to be director or title).

All fields need to be present, though they can be empty. An empty field 
would represented by empty double quotes. So that particular entry might be 
represented as:

"motion_picture","Monty Pythons Flying Circus","","30 
min","05.10.1969","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"

(Assuming MPFC was the 'directory').

HTH
Mark

On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 4:11:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hallo Mark,
> Your Example works fine now, the code does not cause crashes anymore, but 
> it gives me your error-message for this:
>
> type,director,title,length,launch,tags
> "motion_picture","Hans Richter","Ghosts Before Breakfast","6 
> min","14.07.1928","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
> "motion_picture","Monty Pythons Flying Circus","30 
> min","05.10.1969","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
> "motion_picture","John Mc Tiernan","Predator","107 
> min","12.06.1987","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
> "motion_picture","Paul Verhoeven","Robo Cop","102 
> min","17.07.1987","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
> "motion_picture","Peter Greenaway","The Draughtsmans Contract","108 
> min","30.06.1983","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
> "motion_picture","James Cameron","The Terminator","107 
> min","26.10.1984","Neuro,Gestalttheorie,Movie"
>
> I have no clue why...
>
> Thanks for your endurance, 
> Jan
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.05.2016 um 03:38 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> Although you copied it from the list, when you pasted it in you already 
> had a line in place. Or you selected an extra line feed. So if you check, 
> you'll see that there is one "invisible" line at the bottom of your input 
> tiddler that is choking the program. When/If I do an update, I'll have to 
> add checking code to toss out bad lines.
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 6:32:22 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> the last string I tested was:
>>
>> title,tags,text,birth,death
>> "John Smith","English male,Therapist","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"
>>
>> because I wanted to see it work...
>> This means I copypasted it right from the mail to the field...
>>
>> Yours Jan
>>
>> Am 15.05.2016 um 01:22 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> Can you share the lines that crashed it?  I would guess that you either 
>> have an empty field or a blank line somewhere.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Dear Mark,
>>> It crashed when I used 6 arrays with 5 entries...and it still crashed 
>>> when I pasted a single line. 
>>> The errorcode is: TypeError: araLine[j] is undefined
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Importing Entries (csv/json) from the Zotero Bibliography Tool.

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Although you copied it from the list, when you pasted it in you already had 
a line in place. Or you selected an extra line feed. So if you check, 
you'll see that there is one "invisible" line at the bottom of your input 
tiddler that is choking the program. When/If I do an update, I'll have to 
add checking code to toss out bad lines.

HTH
Mark

On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 6:32:22 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> the last string I tested was:
>
> title,tags,text,birth,death
> "John Smith","English male,Therapist","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"
>
> because I wanted to see it work...
> This means I copypasted it right from the mail to the field...
>
> Yours Jan
>
> Am 15.05.2016 um 01:22 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> Can you share the lines that crashed it?  I would guess that you either 
> have an empty field or a blank line somewhere.
>
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 3:26:07 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Dear Mark,
>> It crashed when I used 6 arrays with 5 entries...and it still crashed 
>> when I pasted a single line. 
>> The errorcode is: TypeError: araLine[j] is undefined
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Importing Entries (csv/json) from the Zotero Bibliography Tool.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Can you share the lines that crashed it?  I would guess that you either 
have an empty field or a blank line somewhere.

Mark

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>
> Dear Mark,
> It crashed when I used 6 arrays with 5 entries...and it still crashed when 
> I pasted a single line. 
> The errorcode is: TypeError: araLine[j] is undefined
>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

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Here's another version to try.

This version will ENABLE you to include tags with spaces (which I wouldn't 
advise personally...) Separate the tags with commas, but no spaces or 
quotes-within-quotes. Like:

title,tags,text,birth,death
"John Smith","English male,Therapist","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"

In this version, definitely ALL fields (except header) must use double 
quotes. Failure to do so will result in truncated data. Probably need a 
more fail-safe approach. Later. 

Only the field labeled "tags" will get this special treatment. In all other 
fields, commas will just be part of the field text.

If you want tags with commas in them ... ask someone else ;-)

Mark

 

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 7:45:28 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Looks my project is putting up quite the fight! That bit didn't help it 
> either. :-)
>
> title,tags,text,birth,death
> "John Smith","English male","Explorer, Artist","1900","1981"
>
>
> The final tiddler output: 
>
> Title: "John Smith"
> Tags: "English, male"  <--- notice that the comma separates two tags. Each 
> kept one part of the quotes
> Text: "Explorer
> birth: Artist"
> death: "1900
>
>
> I hope you don't mind me sending you feedback on what I see. 
>
> Best, 
>
> LG
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:50 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, here's a slightly different version. Now it's really important that 
>> all the data lines have their fields enclosed with quotes. So your first 
>> two lines would look something like:
>>
>> name,category,relationship,DOB,DOD
>> "Frank Hudson","English male","husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
>> Nancy","1802","1860"
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 3:39:34 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a sample line: 
>>>
>>> Frank Hudson,English male,"husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
>>> Nancy",1802,1860
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:01 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in 
>>>> my rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated 
>>>> with commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more 
>>>> hacking might be in order.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from 
>>>>> splitting? I was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which 
>>>>> has 
>>>>> a comma in it like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> in using your code, I get: 
>>>>>
>>>>> "Here is some text<--- body 
>>>>> here is more   <--- custom field
>>>>>
>>>>> I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just 
>>>>> to see if that produced a different response. Nope. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, 
>>>>>
>>>>> LG 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello, Mark!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I 
>>>>>> realized the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then 
>>>>>> saving. 
>>>>>> Then it worked smoothly. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. 
>>>>>>> BE SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it 
>>>>>>> as a helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up 
>>>>>>> the 
>

[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

... or sort[created] for the creation date. 

You can also make the created date visible by changing the value of 
$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/created to "show". That would allow 
you to fix those journal entries that had been created out of order. You 
have to be careful not to delete any of the digits. But if you just change 
the first 8, you should be all right. I believe the first 8 digits are in 
mmdd order.

Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 6:42:05 AM UTC-7, The Bo wrote:
>
> If your "finished"-field is identical to your last modification you could 
> try sort[modified].
>
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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

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If your "finished" tiddlers were created on the same date they were 
finished, then sorting by "created" instead of "finished" should accomplish 
what you want. The "finished" field then becomes a link/descriptor field. 

For those tiddlers that you did not create on the actual finish date, you 
can go and tweak the "created" date so that they are in sync. The created 
date can be revealed by changing the contents of the shadow tiddler

$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/created

Please specify if there is something wrong with this approach, since it 
seems like it should match up closely to what you want. Of course, if you 
made all those tiddlers on days different from their date stamp, then that 
won't work.


Good Luck,
Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 7:45:25 AM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Thank you, everyone, for your input, but--and I may be mistaken--I think 
> this may have gotten off topic somewhere. I am not trying to change my 
> journal tiddlers (if I can help it). I am trying to make a list of books I 
> have read, each as its own tiddler, and organized by the date I finished 
> the book. 
>
> Again, here is the code I am using:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// by <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> At the moment, I get a list like this:
>
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016
>
> I am trying to find a way to get this list in chronological order, rather 
> then numerical. However, I am trying to keep the dd/mm/ format, so I 
> can use the dates as links to my journal entries.
>
> Does this make sense?
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The syntax is  !sort[created]

Good luck!
Mark

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 10:13:26 AM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Thank you, that method looks like it should work. Having tried it though, 
> I find myself running into a bit of an issue. I have updated my code to 
> look like this:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[!created]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> The !created is so that my most recently read books are on the top. 
> However, while using sort[created] puts the tiddlers in sequential order:
>
> *The Once and Future King* by T. H. White | 10/06/2015 - 29/09/2015 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *Madame Bovary* by Gustave Flaubert | 29/02/2016 - 27/03/2016 
> *Tess of the d'Urbervilles* by Thomas Hardy | 28/03/2016 - 25/04/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016 
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016
>
> Using sort[!created] seems to mix them up for some reason:
>
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *Tess of the d'Urbervilles* by Thomas Hardy | 28/03/2016 - 25/04/2016 
> *The Once and Future King* by T. H. White | 10/06/2015 - 29/09/2015 
> *Madame Bovary* by Gustave Flaubert | 29/02/2016 - 27/03/2016
>
> Any ideas what is going on here?
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) Ordering lists by date

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

For anyone interested in living dangerously, here is my first attempt at 
writing a filter. In the filter syntax, it takes the form

sortddmm[mydatefield]



I have barely tested it, and have no idea what happens if you throw 
incorrectly formatted stuff at it. It wants dates like "dd/mm/". No 
other separator than /, all 3 fields.

Be *absolutely certain to back up* your TW if you try this.

Mark

On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 5:55:08 PM UTC-7, michaelha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Having long used TiddlyWiki 5 as a journal, I have lots of tiddlers titled 
> in a dd/mm/ format, such as 29/02/2016.
>
> I am trying to make a list of books I have read, organized by date 
> finished. Here is the code I am using:
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[reading]sort[finished]]">
> 
> //<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>// by <$view 
> field="author"/> | <$link to={{!!began}}><$view field="began"/> - 
> <$link to={{!!finished}}><$view field="finished"/>
>
> 
>
> The title of the book is the title of the tiddler, and my fields are 
> author, began, and finished, which I expect are fairly self explanatory. 
> This code turns my began and finished dates into links that lead to the 
> relevant journal entries. Unfortunately, the list is being organized by 
> day, not year, then month, then day, as seen here:
>
> *Pure* by Andrew Miller | 30/04/2016 - 08/05/2016 
> *The Moonstone* by Wilkie Collins | 18/02/2016 - 29/02/2016 
> *The Beautiful Things That Heaven Bears* by Dinaw Mengestu | 27/04/2016 - 
> 30/04/2016
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may adjust the list to 
> display the books in proper chronological order? Thank you.
>

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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think you want a macro like this:

\define monitoringtabs()
<>
\end

put that in a tiddler with the tag $:/tags/Macro so that it is globally 
available.
and then invoke it like this in each of your "parent" tiddlers:

<>


As Mat mentions, the tabs macro will use the caption field for the tab 
name, so set up each of your child tiddlers with a caption name that 
reflects the intended suffix.

HTH
Mark



On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-7, wolfsong wrote:
>
> After looking through the forum a bit I think I need something that's a 
> close to this 
> 
>  where 
> I have a template for a tabbed document that separates each section into 
> it's own tiddler. I'm just not certain how to pass the name of to the 
> sections and do this as a template. I have a macro that sorta works in that 
> it creates the tabs when called
>
> \define monitoringtabs(<>)
> < Name]] [[Monitoring Criteria]] [[Alert Trigger Criteria]] [[Immediate 
> Reaction Steps]]" class:"tc-vertical">>
> \end
>
> What I'd like the template to actually do is call the macro and create the 
> tabs but with the naming convention of Parent Title: Description, Parent 
> Title: Frequency, etc. but only show the suffix for each of the tabs. Is 
> that possible?
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

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Ok, here's a slightly different version. Now it's really important that all 
the data lines have their fields enclosed with quotes. So your first two 
lines would look something like:

name,category,relationship,DOB,DOD
"Frank Hudson","English male","husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
Nancy","1802","1860"

HTH
Mark

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 3:39:34 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Here's a sample line: 
>
> Frank Hudson,English male,"husband of Sarah Owens, father of 
> Nancy",1802,1860
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:01 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Are all your fields surrounded in quotes? I forgot to mention that in my 
>> rush. Each data field should be surrounded with quotes and separated with 
>> commas with no space between. If that doesn't work, then some more hacking 
>> might be in order.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>
>>> Btw, do you have any tips on how to keep the text field from splitting? 
>>> I was looking at TiddlyTools which said to write text which has a comma in 
>>> it like so: "Here is some text, here is more." When I toss that in using 
>>> your code, I get: 
>>>
>>> "Here is some text<--- body 
>>> here is more   <--- custom field
>>>
>>> I then tried writing it as ""Here is some text, here is more."" just to 
>>> see if that produced a different response. Nope. 
>>>
>>> Best, 
>>>
>>> LG 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, LG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, Mark!
>>>>
>>>> I can confirm that this works. The first attempt failed. But I realized 
>>>> the issue was that I forgot to reload after importing then saving. Then it 
>>>> worked smoothly. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to stress test it a bit more to see what else I can do. 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> LG
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 12:10:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE 
>>>>> SURE TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as 
>>>>> a helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the 
>>>>> code so that it does everything at once.
>>>>>
>>>>> Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload 
>>>>> your TW.
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper". 
>>>>> Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the 
>>>>> CSV 
>>>>> data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If 
>>>>> you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date 
>>>>> stamps 
>>>>> at this point. 
>>>>>
>>>>> If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear 
>>>>> below. You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate 
>>>>> file 
>>>>> with a JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to 
>>>>> convert. This is the part that could use some more automation. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot 
>>>>>> *figure 
>>>>>> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells 
>>>>>> me I 
>>>>>> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL 
>>>>>> into 
>>>>>> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I do this?
>>>>>>
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[tw] Re: PLUGIN OF PLUGINS -- For Managing Multiple Tiddlywiki? Possible?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I haven't tried this, but it should work. Open up your plugins, and give 
each of the internal tiddlers a common tag. This will override them as 
shadow tiddlers.

Then repack them using the tinka plugin, using the new tag as the gathering 
identifier. Tinka is available here:

http://twguides.org/wiki/tinka.html

Now everything you want will be in one giant plugin which you can drag and 
drop and later delete.

Mark

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:37:29 AM UTC-7, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>
> I do hold back slightly, but on this I kinda think its a thought, maybe 
> others have thunk?
>
> That the best plugins one combines into ONE plugin to EASILY transport TW 
> to TW.
>
> HOW can one do  that? 
>
>
>
> *Is there an ethic for it?*AND A METHOD?
>
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This version of csv2json adds some error handling, giving you a message 
when it can't make sense of the input lines. Hopefully this will reduce the 
instances when the TW error handler will be invoked.

Mark

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot *figure 
> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells me I 
> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL into 
> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site. 
>
> How do I do this?
>

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Project_CSV2JSON_v0-3.json
Description: application/json

Re: [tw] Re: RoF vs ROF

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Something with mixed caps like RoF is called camel case. It automatically 
becomes a link in TW and many other wikis. If you don't like this feature 
you can turn it off in the control panel under the settings tab.

HTH  

Mark 

On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 2:19:57 PM UTC-7, Ákos Szederjei wrote:
>
> Should the syntax for tiddlyLink not look like: 
>
> [[RoF]] 
>
> ? 
>
> But you are right, the tilde (~) removes the link. 
>
> Ákos 
>
> On 5/13/2016 8:54 PM, 'c pa' via TiddlyWiki wrote: 
> > I think you are looking at the difference between a TiddlyLink to a 
> > non-existing tiddler vs. straight text 
> > 
> > ROF does not create a link to the corresponding text because it doesn't 
> > contain a mixture of upper and lower case letters 
> > 
> > RoF creates a tiddlyLink. If there is no tiddler named RoF then it 
> > displays in italics (= doesn't exist) 
>
>

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Re: Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This version is a little more experimental, and maybe a little more likely 
to break. It doesn't use the View Template, which you can turn off. It 
stores a physical copy of a bulleted list in the text field of the save 
tiddler for easy editing. BUT, it still restores from the list field. One 
step at a time ... 

Mark

 

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 2:12:19 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The attached version will apply the excludeStory tiddlers before saving 
> the story in the list.
>
> Mark
>
> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:20:06 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> Thanks for the .json
>> The view-template works fine, it creates a neat row and tiddlers tagged 
>> with excludeStory are not shown, but they are saved in the list and are 
>> opened when you load the story. 
>> For my purpose would be best to exclude them at once...
>> I understand that the Problem is in opening tiddlers contained in the 
>> textfield if they are not properly  aligned. In TWC the tiddlytools 
>> StorySaverPlugin managed this...
>> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StorySaverPlugin
>> Yours Jan
>>
>>
>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht  
>> Betreff: Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : 
>> OpenStory/SaveStory 
>> Datum: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) 
>> Von: 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com> 
>> Antwort an: tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
>> An: TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com> 
>>
>> Here's a json with the updated save/show routines and with the suggested 
>> view template. Be sure to back up before trying. 
>>
>> I can imagine several ways in which this might not work as you wanted, so 
>> you will need to specify how it is not working properly.
>>
>> It might be possible to create a wikified list with a javascript macro. 
>> But I'm thinking that you want your users to edit that list in the text 
>> editor. So that would take a second javascript macro to parse the human 
>> readable list back into the kind of lists used to save stories. Have to 
>> think about that.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Mark
>>
>> In general, I think TWC was favorable in many ways to TW5. 
>> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 5:34:37 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>> Thanks for your help and sorry for not answering more quickly.
>> I did not know ther was so much difference between TWC and TW5.
>> I´ll have to do a lot of learning if i really change.
>> I could not get your solution to work properly. 
>>
>> Am 30.04.2016 um 05:44 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at least it's not mentioned 
>> in the docs.
>>
>> That's a plugin by Tobias $:/plugins/tobibeer/split
>>
>> <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/attach/25c4517a9fe38/Neustart.html?part=0.1.1=0>
>>  
>>
>> And I don't think you can capture the nicely formatted list and tuck it 
>> into a tiddler. It would be cool if you could.
>>
>> That's a pitty, in Tiddlytools for classic ther was a plugin called 
>> "clickify" which did exactly this
>>
>> In TWC the solution was the following:
>> <>label:"save story!" focus:title tag:snapshot
>>title:{{prompt('Please enter a name','')}}
>>text:{{
>>   var out="";
>>   story.forEachTiddler(function(t){
>>var tid=store.getTiddler(t);
>> if(tid&&!tid.isTagged("excludeStory"))
>>   out+="[["+t+"]]\n";});
>>  out += '\n' + store.getTiddlerText('openStoryTemplate') ##which 
>> inserts the textfield of the Template and creates a button to open the 
>> story##
>>   out;
>>}}>>
>>
>> By the template this 
>> <>
>> was inserted into each created SnapshotTiddler to open the story 
>> contained...
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:10:30 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hello,
>> I think I would like to do a solution with a small detour:
>> 1. Create a ShadowTiddler called [[Snapshot]] which contains the Story 
>> like this:
>>  {{{[split:list{$:/StoryList!!list}]}}}
>>  Question: How can I exclude the Tiddlers Tagged with excludeStory? 
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> 2. How can set the value of 
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text&qu

[tw] Re: How secure is TiddlyWiki?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

If your company is asking you to do use some other Wiki, does that mean 
that they expect it to be used in collaboration with others?

If so, then they may have a point. Collaboration is a bit weak in TW, to 
put it mildly.

If you carry your TW home on a flash drive or lap top, then there is a 
danger of the data being exposed -- just as with any other document. Even 
brand-new laptops come with all sorts of 3rd party stuff these days, and it 
doesn't seem  that manufacturers vet the software thoroughly. USB drives 
can be lost, or left behind at business meetings.

TW does have an encryption capability, which might add some peace of mind. 
You might find out if your company's default wiki product is using 
encryption.

Mark

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 7:55:00 PM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> I work for an engineering company and TiddlyWiki is something I use almost 
> constantly. My company, however, would rather that I use another wiki 
> program that is part of an integrated package. Without going into too much 
> detail, the words that immediately come to mind when describing that 
> program are "useless" and "vile." Although they've never prohibited me from 
> using TiddlyWiki, they have raised questions that I can't easily answer 
> such as "How secure is our corporate data?" and "How do you know it isn't 
> transmitting data outside the company?" and finally "How do you know it 
> won't damage the data on our network?" 
>
> My first reaction is to discount this as paranoia but I don't know the 
> inner workings of TiddlyWiki well enough to know it isn't doing those 
> things and I'm not sure anyone but Jeremy (and perhaps Eric) do know. I'm 
> more worried about Google making copies of my data than I am Jeremy doing 
> it. Still Firefox and most modern browsers have gone out of their way to 
> prevent applications like TiddlyWiki from working. On a separate but 
> related note, one of the math routines developed for TiddlyWiki used a 
> separate math package to avoid using the "dangerous" javascript eval 
> function. Could some malicious bastard create a plugin that could actually 
> damage our computers or our data outside the Wiki?
>
> Does anyone know?
>

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[tw] Re: List of fields in a different tiddler

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Is this what you want?

<$set name=tid value={{$:/temp/old}}>

<$list filter="[fields[]] -[[text]]" variable="fieldname">
<$text text=<>/>
<$view tiddler=<> field=<>/>







On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 10:21:43 AM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> What I want to do is produce a list of fields and values for a tiddler 
> that isn't the current tiddler but whose name is contained in a temporary 
> tiddler. 
>
> Given that this code produces a list of fields and values for the current 
> tiddler
>
> 
> <$list filter="[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]]" variable="fieldname">
> <$text text=<>/>
> <$view field=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> can someone explain to me what it takes to produce a similar result?
>
> None of the combinations I've tried with {$:/temp/old} have brought me any 
> luck.
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [NOOB] Transclusion, Templates, Filters and Tags vs Fields

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think we would need to know more about your use case. For instance, what 
will all these articles have in common that might benefit from a template? 
How do you imagine using the sub-sections?

Personally, I don't like solutions that clutter tag-space with single-use 
tags. To me tags seem better to apply semantic meaning to entire categories 
of tiddlers. But maybe that's just me. I would use links to organize 
sub-sections.
 
The next version of TW5, 5.1.12 is coming out pretty soon . It will have a 
tool that will let you quickly cut (excise) your article into relevant 
sub-tiddlers. This might be the ticket for what you want to accomplish.

Good luck,
Mark 

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:18:56 AM UTC-7, wolfsong wrote:
>
> I'm looking through the documentation and trying to grasp a few concepts 
> but I think I need more information.
>
> I want to setup a knowledge base with articles on a variety of subjects. 
> I'd like to put together a template for each type of article. Each article 
> will have subsections with information that might appear in different types 
> of articles. This way, as content needs to be updated, I can update the 
> relevant tiddler and have the corresponding articles be current. It seems 
> like TiddlyWiki is built around this very idea. Where I'm stumbling though 
> is how to approach the process.
>
>- Do I create the subsections first and pull them together with a 
>template or create a template that creates the necessary subsections?
>- How do I link the subsections back to the article? Should I use a 
>tag or a custom field (I'm entirely unclear on the advantages of using one 
>versus the other)?
>- Are the some examples that are easy to follow? What I'm finding on 
>the main website seems lite and what I'm finding in the community examples 
>has elements that I can't figure out what's being done.
>
> One other thing, because the articles will be lengthy in some cases, I'd 
> love to take advantage of having the subsections appear as tabs.
>
> Any guidance would really be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Cristov
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's a json with the updated save/show routines and with the suggested 
view template. Be sure to back up before trying. 

I can imagine several ways in which this might not work as you wanted, so 
you will need to specify how it is not working properly.

It might be possible to create a wikified list with a javascript macro. But 
I'm thinking that you want your users to edit that list in the text editor. 
So that would take a second javascript macro to parse the human readable 
list back into the kind of lists used to save stories. Have to think about 
that.

Good luck,
Mark

In general, I think TWC was favorable in many ways to TW5. 
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 5:34:37 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello Mark,
> Thanks for your help and sorry for not answering more quickly.
> I did not know ther was so much difference between TWC and TW5.
> I´ll have to do a lot of learning if i really change.
> I could not get your solution to work properly. 
>
> Am 30.04.2016 um 05:44 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at least it's not mentioned 
> in the docs.
>
> That's a plugin by Tobias $:/plugins/tobibeer/split
>
> <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/attach/25c4517a9fe38/Neustart.html?part=0.1.1=0>
>  
>
> And I don't think you can capture the nicely formatted list and tuck it 
> into a tiddler. It would be cool if you could.
>
> That's a pitty, in Tiddlytools for classic ther was a plugin called 
> "clickify" which did exactly this
>
> In TWC the solution was the following:
> <label:"save story!" focus:title tag:snapshot
>title:{{prompt('Please enter a name','')}}
>text:{{
>   var out="";
>   story.forEachTiddler(function(t){
>var tid=store.getTiddler(t);
> if(tid&&!tid.isTagged("excludeStory"))
>   out+="[["+t+"]]\n";});
>  out += '\n' + store.getTiddlerText('openStoryTemplate') ##which 
> inserts the textfield of the Template and creates a button to open the 
> story##
>   out;
>}}>>
>
> By the template this 
> <>
> was inserted into each created SnapshotTiddler to open the story 
> contained...
>
> Thanks again,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:10:30 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hello,
>> I think I would like to do a solution with a small detour:
>> 1. Create a ShadowTiddler called [[Snapshot]] which contains the Story 
>> like this:
>>  {{{[split:list{$:/StoryList!!list}]}}}
>>      Question: How can I exclude the Tiddlers Tagged with excludeStory? 
>>
>
>  
>
>> 2. How can set the value of 
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=  
>> tags="Snapshot">
>> to the clickyfied Text of [[Snapshot]]
>>
>> Thanks...
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 28.04.2016 um 04:15 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Technically, this modification of matebele's version does just what you 
>> want:
>>
>> \define saveSnapshot()
>> <$button> Save Snapshot
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=  
>> tags="Snapshot">
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define showSnapshot()
>> <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$(snap)$}}>Show Snapshot<
>> /$button>
>> \end
>>
>> ;Show Snapshot
>>
>> <$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field="
>> story-name" default='(none)'>
>> <$list filter="[tag[Snapshot]]" variable="currentIndex">
>> >><>
>> 
>> 
>> <$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> ;Save Snapshot
>>
>> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/_snapshots" 
>> field="story-name"/>
>> <$set name="snapshot" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> Be sure to back up before trying this! You will need to create an 
>> additional tiddler $:/_snapshots. 
>>
>> But I'm guessing that you won't like the way it works -- all the tiddlers 
>> are listed one after another in a single line rather than in list. I 
>> imagine it will take a javáscript macro to be able to make it into a 
>> standard list.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:24:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hello Mark,
>>> I am

Re: Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The attached version will apply the excludeStory tiddlers before saving the 
story in the list.

Mark

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:20:06 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> Thanks for the .json
> The view-template works fine, it creates a neat row and tiddlers tagged 
> with excludeStory are not shown, but they are saved in the list and are 
> opened when you load the story. 
> For my purpose would be best to exclude them at once...
> I understand that the Problem is in opening tiddlers contained in the 
> textfield if they are not properly  aligned. In TWC the tiddlytools 
> StorySaverPlugin managed this...
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StorySaverPlugin
> Yours Jan
>
>
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht  
> Betreff: Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : 
> OpenStory/SaveStory 
> Datum: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) 
> Von: 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com>  
> Antwort an: tiddl...@googlegroups.com  
> An: TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com>  
>
> Here's a json with the updated save/show routines and with the suggested 
> view template. Be sure to back up before trying. 
>
> I can imagine several ways in which this might not work as you wanted, so 
> you will need to specify how it is not working properly.
>
> It might be possible to create a wikified list with a javascript macro. 
> But I'm thinking that you want your users to edit that list in the text 
> editor. So that would take a second javascript macro to parse the human 
> readable list back into the kind of lists used to save stories. Have to 
> think about that.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> In general, I think TWC was favorable in many ways to TW5. 
> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 5:34:37 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>
> Hello Mark,
> Thanks for your help and sorry for not answering more quickly.
> I did not know ther was so much difference between TWC and TW5.
> I´ll have to do a lot of learning if i really change.
> I could not get your solution to work properly. 
>
> Am 30.04.2016 um 05:44 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at least it's not mentioned 
> in the docs.
>
> That's a plugin by Tobias $:/plugins/tobibeer/split
>
> <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/attach/25c4517a9fe38/Neustart.html?part=0.1.1=0>
>  
>
> And I don't think you can capture the nicely formatted list and tuck it 
> into a tiddler. It would be cool if you could.
>
> That's a pitty, in Tiddlytools for classic ther was a plugin called 
> "clickify" which did exactly this
>
> In TWC the solution was the following:
> <label:"save story!" focus:title tag:snapshot
>title:{{prompt('Please enter a name','')}}
>text:{{
>   var out="";
>   story.forEachTiddler(function(t){
>var tid=store.getTiddler(t);
> if(tid&&!tid.isTagged("excludeStory"))
>   out+="[["+t+"]]\n";});
>  out += '\n' + store.getTiddlerText('openStoryTemplate') ##which 
> inserts the textfield of the Template and creates a button to open the 
> story##
>   out;
>}}>>
>
> By the template this 
> <>
> was inserted into each created SnapshotTiddler to open the story 
> contained...
>
> Thanks again,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:10:30 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>
> Hello,
> I think I would like to do a solution with a small detour:
> 1. Create a ShadowTiddler called [[Snapshot]] which contains the Story 
> like this:
>  {{{[split:list{$:/StoryList!!list}]}}}
>  Question: How can I exclude the Tiddlers Tagged with excludeStory? 
>
>
>  
>
> 2. How can set the value of 
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=  
> tags="Snapshot">
> to the clickyfied Text of [[Snapshot]]
>
> Thanks...
> Jan
>
>
>
> Am 28.04.2016 um 04:15 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> Hello,
>
> Technically, this modification of matebele's version does just what you 
> want:
>
> \define saveSnapshot()
> <$button> Save Snapshot
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" $value=  
> tags="Snapshot">
> 
> \end
>
> \define showSnapshot()
> <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$(snap)$}}>Show Snapshot<
> /$button>
> \end
>
> ;Show Snapshot
>
> <$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field="
> story-name" default='(none)'>
> <$list filter="[tag[Snapshot]]" varia

[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I noticed that if you use the macro for excision, that the "transcluded" 
text does not include images and leaves out formatting. If you do a plain 
transclusion with curly brackets, it does include images. It seems to me 
that the macro should do a real transclusion so you you can see what you're 
actually getting.

After some more experimentation, I see that the problem may be the 
<$transclusion> widget -- it doesn't include images or formatting either. 
On the other hand, changing the macro to use curly brackets doesn't bring 
back the formatting, and everything is displayed in inline mode. So it will 
take more than one tweak to get right.

Thanks,
Mark

On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>
> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>
> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
> problems: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>
> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
> resources that are not currently linked from 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
> request. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hah! I bet this isn't what you really wanted ;-)

You can drag-n-drop the EXPERIMENTAL plugin from 
http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/.

The list is now stored in field "story". The view template includes a 
button to open everything in a snapshot. Probably need to tweak that 
eventually.

Have fun,
Mark

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 8:35:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello Mark,
> now I had the time to try out both attemps. They both work very good. Many 
> thanks for this.
> Do you want to make them accessible for the community by turning them into 
> a plugin, I think this could be useful for some of us?
>
> I like your first solution (V3) better, I think it could even be an 
> advantage that the tiddlers are stored in a list-field.
> -Would it be possible to give this List-field a custom name for example 
> "story"?
> -Would it be possible to implement a button to open the story in the 
> viewTemplate so that it appears below the List of tiddlers?
>
> and I encountered another issue:
> Is it possible to rearrange the tiddlers by drag and drop like it was with 
> the rearrangeTiddlersPugin in TiddlyTools?
> I think it might be better to post this as a new question.
>
> Cheerio and Thanks 
> Jan
>
> Am 02.05.2016 um 23:12 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> The attached version will apply the excludeStory tiddlers before saving 
> the story in the list.
>
> Mark
>
> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:20:06 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>
> Hi Mark,
> Thanks for the .json
> The view-template works fine, it creates a neat row and tiddlers tagged 
> with excludeStory are not shown, but they are saved in the list and are 
> opened when you load the story. 
> For my purpose would be best to exclude them at once...
> I understand that the Problem is in opening tiddlers contained in the 
> textfield if they are not properly  aligned. In TWC the tiddlytools 
> StorySaverPlugin managed this...
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StorySaverPlugin
> Yours Jan
>
>
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- 
> Betreff: Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : 
> OpenStory/SaveStory 
> Datum: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) 
> Von: 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com> 
> Antwort an: tiddl...@googlegroups.com 
> An: TiddlyWiki <tidd...@googlegroups.com> 
>
> Here's a json with the updated save/show routines and with the suggested 
> view template. Be sure to back up before trying. 
>
> I can imagine several ways in which this might not work as you wanted, so 
> you will need to specify how it is not working properly.
>
> It might be possible to create a wikified list with a javascript macro. 
> But I'm thinking that you want your users to edit that list in the text 
> editor. So that would take a second javascript macro to parse the human 
> readable list back into the kind of lists used to save stories. Have to 
> think about that.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> In general, I think TWC was favorable in many ways to TW5. 
> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 5:34:37 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>
> Hello Mark,
> Thanks for your help and sorry for not answering more quickly.
> I did not know ther was so much difference between TWC and TW5.
> I´ll have to do a lot of learning if i really change.
> I could not get your solution to work properly. 
>
> Am 30.04.2016 um 05:44 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at least it's not mentioned 
> in the docs.
>
> That's a plugin by Tobias $:/plugins/tobibeer/split
>
> <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/attach/25c4517a9fe38/Neustart.html?part=0.1.1=0>
>  
>
> And I don't think you can capture the nicely formatted list and tuck it 
> into a tiddler. It would be cool if you could.
>
> That's a pitty, in Tiddlytools for classic ther was a plugin called 
> "clickify" which did exactly this
>
> In TWC the solution was the following:
> <label:"save story!" focus:title tag:snapshot
>title:{{prompt('Please enter a name','')}}
>text:{{
>   var out="";
>   story.forEachTiddler(function(t){
>var tid=store.getTiddler(t);
> if(tid&&!tid.isTagged("excludeStory"))
>   out+="[["+t+"]]\n";});
>  out += '\n' + store.getTiddlerText('openStoryTemplate') ##which 
> inserts the textfield of the Template and creates a button to open the 
> story##
>   out;
>}}>>
>
> By the template this 
> <>
> was inserted into each created SnapshotTiddler to open the story 
> contained...
>
> Thanks again,
> Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Well cancel that. The plugin packager didn't actually put contents in the 
plugin. Probably some step I misunderstood. Maybe later. 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 11:28:22 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hah! I bet this isn't what you really wanted ;-)
>
> You can drag-n-drop the EXPERIMENTAL plugin from 
> http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/.
>
> The list is now stored in field "story". The view template includes a 
> button to open everything in a snapshot. Probably need to tweak that 
> eventually.
>
> Have fun,
> Mark
>
> Edit: Yes, you will have to ask in the forum about rearranging tiddlers in 
> the story. That was a great feature available to TWC.
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 8:35:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>> now I had the time to try out both attemps. They both work very good. 
>> Many thanks for this.
>> Do you want to make them accessible for the community by turning them 
>> into a plugin, I think this could be useful for some of us?
>>
>> I like your first solution (V3) better, I think it could even be an 
>> advantage that the tiddlers are stored in a list-field.
>> -Would it be possible to give this List-field a custom name for example 
>> "story"?
>> -Would it be possible to implement a button to open the story in the 
>> viewTemplate so that it appears below the List of tiddlers?
>>
>> and I encountered another issue:
>> Is it possible to rearrange the tiddlers by drag and drop like it was 
>> with the rearrangeTiddlersPugin in TiddlyTools?
>> I think it might be better to post this as a new question.
>>
>> Cheerio and Thanks 
>> Jan
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to print one tiddler?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Click on the little down caret next to the title to see all tiddler 
options. Select "open in new windows". Use Ctl-P (at least in FF) to bring 
up print dialog.

Mark

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 7:14:04 AM UTC-7, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Is it even possible to print one tiddler from a TiddlyWiki?
>
> Thank you! I'm still learning. 
>
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Where do I report errors in 5.1.12 prerelease of TW?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Was it the full or empty versions? Have you tried downloading a second 
time, in case it happened to corrupt during download? Have you closed and 
re-opened your browser yet?

I just tested with pretty much your identical set-up (had to upgrade TF), 
and it seems to work. 

Good luck!
Mark

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 8:44:35 AM UTC-7, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Firefox 43.0.1 with TiddlyFox 1.0alpha18.1-signed plugin on Windows 7. 
> What other info do you need? Local file, single HTML file. 
>
> I got an error when I did thusly: 
>
>
>1. Added a brand new tiddler called 'test'.It automatically goes into 
>Edit mode.
>2. Type in the string "test data" in the tiddler body.
>3. When I clicked the save button on the tiddler 'test', I got the 
>error below. 
>
> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 
> (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.create]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 
> (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: 
> chrome://tiddlyfox/content/overlay.js :: TiddlyFox.saveFile :: line 96"  
> data: no]
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Using ASCII to incorporate diagrams into TW with minimal overheads

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Looks like a wonderful ASCII editor. Too bad it's 2 decades too late ;-)

SVG basically uses a set of text directions keeping the overhead low. That 
seems like the ticket for serious diagram/drawing presentation in TW5.

Mark

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 5:01:42 AM UTC-7, Tom Bush wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Just wanted to share a site I found that lets you draw in ASCII, which in 
> combination with block preformatted mode in TW lets you add diagrams and 
> mocked-up charts quite easily:
>
> http://asciiflow.com/
>
> Previously I had been trying to use images but obviously the filesize 
> increases pretty rapidly.
>
> Also in my experience this is actually better in terms of workflow as it 
> doesn't require any extra software (plus it looks cool to me).
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>

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[tw] Re: Beginner trying to do some simple formatting in a TW5

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's one approach to # 1

Make a tiddler with the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet. Call it something like "My 
Styles" and make it type text/css.

Put this in it, substituting whatever size you want for .5em specified:

h2.tc-title  {
> font-size:.5em ;
> }
>
>
That should do it.

Mark

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-7, Marc wrote:
>
> I really love TW5 and try to do it in my college classes. I try to keep 
> things simple so the students can get comfortable. 
>
> I am not a great coder. Neither are my students. I am looking for help 
> with some simple formatting help. See the graphic below.
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> I assume that this can all be done in the CSS and have been looking at 
> email posts but if you can give it to me simply I would really appreciate 
> any help.
>
> Thank you for a great and powerful product,
>
> Marc Ferguson
>

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[tw] Re: Beginner trying to do some simple formatting in a TW5

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

For #2, you can add the following to the style sheet

div.tc-subtitle {
display:none ;
}

Seems to work. Do remember to make back-ups before trying anything ;-)

Mark

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-7, Marc wrote:
>
> I really love TW5 and try to do it in my college classes. I try to keep 
> things simple so the students can get comfortable. 
>
> I am not a great coder. Neither are my students. I am looking for help 
> with some simple formatting help. See the graphic below.
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> I assume that this can all be done in the CSS and have been looking at 
> email posts but if you can give it to me simply I would really appreciate 
> any help.
>
> Thank you for a great and powerful product,
>
> Marc Ferguson
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Quick way to centre an image?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

That's a neat approach!

If you standardize the style naming, then you can create a single macro for 
all 3 formats. It gets invoked like:


< tooltip:"Motovun Jack - The TiddlyWiki Mascot">>
>
>
Mark

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 2:14:03 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 3:44:57 PM UTC+2, shaw.m...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> i've been searching through the archives here but I can't find a simple 
>> way to centre an image -- I'm creating documentation/SOPs and just want a 
>> screenshot to be aligned in the centre rather than the default Left. 
>>
>
> Download and drag this to your tw and have a look at the included docs. If 
> there are more questions. just ask. 
> You can test it with tiddlywiki.com.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw] Re: Beginner trying to do some simple formatting in a TW5

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

For #3, I assume that you want the same two lines to always be to the right 
of the image. Someone else could probably think of a way to do it with pure 
CSS, but I would use a table.

So for the table I might have:

@@.imgtable
|[img width=120 [Henry B. 
Eyring|https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/images/leaders/henry-b-eyring-large.jpg]]|Where
 
Two or Three Are Gathered President Henry B. Eyring - First 
Counselor in the First Presidency|

@@

and then add this to the stylesheet tiddler

 .imgtable td {
vertical-align: top ;
border-style: none ;

}
.imgtable {
border-style: none ;
border-collapse:collapse;
}


HTH
Mark


On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 7:40:00 PM UTC-7, Marc wrote:
>
> I really love TW5 and try to do it in my college classes. I try to keep 
> things simple so the students can get comfortable. 
>
> I am not a great coder. Neither are my students. I am looking for help 
> with some simple formatting help. See the graphic below.
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> I assume that this can all be done in the CSS and have been looking at 
> email posts but if you can give it to me simply I would really appreciate 
> any help.
>
> Thank you for a great and powerful product,
>
> Marc Ferguson
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Request: sort selected lines in tiddlywiki edit mode

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

What I do in FF/Pale Moon is to install the "It's All Text " plugin. I have 
mine connected to emacs. Then when I want to do advanced editing I just 
click on the button and get taken away to emacs. Then I can use the 
sorting, regular expression, etc. abilities of emacs. There are other text 
editors that offer sorting as well.

Mark

On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 10:25:36 AM UTC-7, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> No, I want to sort lines selected by the user inside the tiddler in edit 
> mode only. It's good for making tables, lists of items, etc.
>
>
> 
>
> See image.
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: How to transclude external tiddlers in TW5

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This is Firefox 43.0.1 on Win 7.


On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 12:00:59 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> What browser and operating system are you using?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com 
> http://jermolene.com
>
> On 13 Apr 2016, at 19:24, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> This is the message I see in the tiddler:
>
>
>
>> Loading external text from *./test.tid*
>>
>> If this message doesn't disappear you may be using a browser that doesn't 
>> support external text in this configuration. See http:
>> //tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText
>>
>>
>>
>>
> On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 10:46:34 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> There's supposed to be the ability to link to external tid files using 
>> _canonical_uri. However, it doesn't work on my very latest FF, so not sure 
>> where it does work. I notice that the link to 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalText doesn't exist, so maybe the idea was 
>> dropped..
>>
>>
>> The documentation is missing, but the feature is present. There are some 
>> notes in the release tiddler for the version when the feature was released:
>>
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.10
>>
>> To test it, try visiting this link:
>>
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Alice%20in%20Wonderland
>>
>> If you see the full text of “Alice in Wonderland”, then it is working. 
>> Basically, the tiddler has a _canonical_uri field pointing to a .tid file.
>>
>> The only browser-specific limitation I’m aware of is that Chrome won’t 
>> display external tiddlers when the TiddlyWiki is loaded from a file:// URI. 
>> But there are many other gotchas that make external tiddlers pretty tricky 
>> to work with if one is only working in the standalone configuration.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> You might look at Tobias Beer's <> plugin and see if it's want 
>> you want: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#external
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 3:16:36 AM UTC-7, David Myers wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All.
>>>
>>> First of all I would like to thank all those who have worked on 
>>> TiddlyWiki ~ suffice to say I love it lots and lots.
>>>
>>> Recently I've started a number of TiddlyWiki files and I often want to 
>>> include them into one another.
>>>
>>> I know that I can 'import' and external TiddlyWiki from the Tools > 
>>> Import menu in the side bar.
>>>
>>> However  would like to be able to 'transclude' an external wiki into my 
>>> current one.
>>>
>>> My use case:
>>>
>>> I am writing my thesis, and use TW to take notes.
>>> I use zotero and BibTex for storing my references. Whic I then import 
>>> (one at a time) using inmysocks Citations Plugin 
>>> <http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Citations%20Plugin>
>>> However I keep all my citations in a single tiddlywiki file, and then 
>>> simply import this file into each of my other TiddlyWiki notebooks.
>>>
>>> This works fine, but I would really appreciate a way for the TW with the 
>>> references / citations in to auto update into the currently open TW file 
>>> (much like how transcluding a tiddler mean I only need a single copy of it 
>>> and any updates I make are seen wherever it is transcluded.
>>> This functionality exists in TW classic using the SharedTiddlerPlugin or 
>>> ExternalTiddlersPlugin etc, but currently doesn't seem to be availabe in 
>>> TW5 (or have I missed something ?)
>>>
>>> Another option would be to add in an 'import' button to do this 
>>> automatically with this specified file.
>>>
>>> I found the loadTiddlersFromFile function, but I'm not sure how to call 
>>> it directly from within the a tiddler. I could place a 'button' within the 
>>> local references tiddler that could point to the external file.
>>>
>>> If anyone can give me any pointers that would be great, I'm fairly new 
>>> to working on TW.
>>>
>>>
>>> to this end I attemtped to find the JS code in the empty tiddlywiki 
>>> file, but I can't seem to find it, as it doesn't seem to be called 'load' 
>>> or 'import'
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] More JavaScript macro questions

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Tristan,

This was the export part of the code I came up with for testing:

exports.run = function(text) {

 var vartext = "[["+text.split(",").join("]] [[")+"]]"   ;
return vartext ;  

};

Both our approaches probably need something in there to squeeze out spaces 
after commas.

Have fun!
Mark


On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 11:49:29 PM UTC-7, Tristan Kohl wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> here is my macro code:
> /*\
>
> title: $:/plugins/mirodin/ebooks/linklist.js
> type: application/javascript
> module-type: macro
>
> \*/
> (function() {
>
> "use strict";
>
> /*
> List all field values as comma separated list of clickable links.
> */
>
> exports.name = "linklist";
>
> exports.params = [];
>
> /*
> Run the macro
> */
> exports.run = function(field) {
>  if (typeof field === "undefined") {
>  return "''Please pass field.''";
>  }
>  var elements = field.split(",");
>  var result = "";
>  for (var i = 0; i < elements.length; i++) {
>  result += "[[" + elements[i] + "]], ";
>  }
>  result = result.slice(0, -2);
>  return result;
> };
>
> })();
>
> Thanks for your hint, that works for me too and the whole call is way more 
> readable.
>
> Cheers
> Tristan
>

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[tw] Re: TW5: How to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV

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Here's a brand new, experimental tool to help you import CSV data. BE SURE 
TO BACKUP YOUR TW FILE BEFORE TRYING THIS!!

Unfortunately it is not a 100% automatic. That's why I refer to it as a 
helper. Someone who knows the innards of TW5 could probably fix up the code 
so that it does everything at once.

Drag and drop the attached json file into your TW. Save and reload your TW.

Follow the instructions in "How to use the CSV to TW/JSON helper". 
Basically you create a tiddler with your CSV data. The first row of the CSV 
data must have your field headers, and the field "title" is mandatory. If 
you want "created" or "modified" you will have to add your own date stamps 
at this point. 

If the converter tiddler is successfully, your CSV data will appear below. 
You can copy and paste the converted JSON code into a separate file with a 
JSON extension, and then drag and drop it back into your TW to convert. 
This is the part that could use some more automation. 

Good luck,
Mark


On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 8:18:23 PM UTC-7, LG wrote:
>
> Hi! I've been desperately googling for half an hour and I *cannot *figure 
> out how to use CreateTiddlersFromCSV. I copy data in and then it tells me I 
> need to save. I cannot find a save button. I've tried dragging the URL into 
> my TiddlyWiki, but the page just reloads and goes to that site. 
>
> How do I do this?
>

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Description: application/json

[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

If it's not too late to make a suggestion.

Currently you can set the height of the edit side of the screen, and turn 
it into a scrollable area. Great!

Unfortunately, you can not scroll the preview side of the screen. This 
means that the preview and edit areas can be far apart, and impossible to 
line up. This means you end up going back and forth while editing. If you 
could scroll the preview side like you can the edit side, then editing 
would be much easier.

Thanks!
Mark

On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>
> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>
> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
> problems: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>
> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
> resources that are not currently linked from 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
> request. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The start of an encyclopedia edition

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks Jed,

I'm trying to understand now *why* that works. The syntax doesn't make 
sense to me. To me, it seems like it should just return "Root" if the term 
"Root" happened to be in the field "useful_parts".

Thanks,
Mark




On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 12:47:23 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> You use the listed operator like this:
>
> <$list filter='[[Root]listed[useful_parts]]'>
>
> 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Pass a formatted Tiddler to GMAIL? Possible?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

In Firefox, to access the HTML version of your code, select your text and 
then right click and select  View Selection Source. In the window that pops 
up, your HTML text is already selected. Copy that.

Now how to send it from Gmail? This is a problem with Gmail, not TW. But 
someone has worked out a neat solution using Google Docs/Drive. Read it 
about it here:

http://www.labnol.org/internet/send-html-email/19672/

Once you have installed the spreadsheet  in Google Drive  you will be able 
to open a form that lets you paste in your HTML code and send it.

Not a one-click solution, but better than doing all that formatting by hand.

Another solution, if you have a desktop client like Thunderbird hooked into 
your Gmail, is to just send from that client. Thunderbird has an option to 
insert html.

Good luck,
Mark
 



On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 2:55:49 AM UTC-7, prog...@assays.tv wrote:
>
> use case: I use TW5 to maintain data for a regular GMAIL mailing of items 
> I select. 
>
> currently: I have to copy and paste to GMAIL & then redo the styling 
> manually. This is cumbersome.
>
> wanted: Ability to (1) Click a button on a tiddler to PASS its text to 
> GMAIL. (2) Pass also the STYLING of the tiddler.
>
> QUESTION: has anyone made steps in this direction?
>
> comment: IF the networking possibilities of TW5 were stronger & more 
> upfront I am sure it would get more widely known.
>
>

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[tw] MODULE_NOT_FOUND error with node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I haven't used node.js for awhile. I updated following the instructions 
(npm update -g tiddlywiki). Then attempted to launch, and got the following 
error. What do I do to get it working?

Thanks!
Mark

Error executing boot module $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/edit-codemirror
.js:
 {"code":"MODULE_NOT_FOUND"}

Error: Cannot find module '$:/core/modules/editor/factory.js'
at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:336:15)
at Function.Module._load (module.js:278:25)
at Module.require (module.js:365:17)
at require (module.js:384:17)
at Object.$tw.modules.execute (C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\node_modules
\tid
dlywiki\boot\boot.js:695:11)
at sandbox.require (C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\node_modules\tiddlywiki
\boo
t\boot.js:654:24)
at $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/edit-codemirror.js:15:29
at $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/edit-codemirror.js:20:3
at ContextifyScript.Script.runInNewContext (vm.js:38:15)
at Object.exports.runInNewContext (vm.js:69:17)
at $tw.utils.evalSandboxed (C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\node_modules\
tiddly
wiki\boot\boot.js:450:5)


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Re: [tw] MODULE_NOT_FOUND error with node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I only have the one folder, which is pretty out of date. It could only have 
gotten the codemirror through the update process, since I've never 
installed it. Sounds like I would need to start over?

When I create a new folder, and start it with lazy serving of tiddlers:

> tiddlywiki mytestwiki --server 8080 $:/core/save/lazy-all

Tiddlers that I save and reload are missing their content. Is lazy serving 
supposed to be working? I assume that "non-system" tiddlers are the 
tiddlers that I create??

Thanks!
Mark

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 7:47:07 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> The error message suggests that you've got the latest CodeMirror plugin 
> installed, but that it cannot access "..editor/factory.js", a core 
> component that was introduced in 5.1.12. Things have clearly got corrupted 
> somehow, but it's hard to figure out why.
>
> Do you get the same behaviour regardless of the wiki folder that you're 
> using?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com 
> http://jermolene.com
>
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 23:42, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I haven't used node.js for awhile. I updated following the instructions 
> (npm update -g tiddlywiki). Then attempted to launch, and got the following 
> error. What do I do to get it working?
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
> Error executing boot module $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/edit-
> codemirror.js:
>  {"code":"MODULE_NOT_FOUND"}
>
> Error: Cannot find module '$:/core/modules/editor/factory.js'
> at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:336:15)
> at Function.Module._load (module.js:278:25)
> at Module.require (module.js:365:17)
> at require (module.js:384:17)
> at Object.$tw.modules.execute (C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\
> node_modules\tid
> dlywiki\boot\boot.js:695:11)
> at sandbox.require (C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\node_modules\
> tiddlywiki\boo
> t\boot.js:654:24)
> at $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/edit-codemirror.js:15:29
> at $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/edit-codemirror.js:20:3
> at ContextifyScript.Script.runInNewContext (vm.js:38:15)
> at Object.exports.runInNewContext (vm.js:69:17)
> at $tw.utils.evalSandboxed (C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\node\node_modules\
> tiddly
> wiki\boot\boot.js:450:5)
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Transcluding the title of the current tiddler

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But, why should that make a difference to removing the *suffix* ? When I 
say that it doesn't work, I mean that it shows *nothing*. I could 
understand if I was removing a prefix, since the prefix would be displaced 
by "Draft of".

Thanks!
Mark 

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:40:55 PM UTC-7, c pa wrote:
>
> It doesn't work in preview because during editing the title is "Draft of" 
> + title 
>
> Draft of + title isn't contained in any foreign fields
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Transcluding the title of the current tiddler

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This seems to work:

\define mac2(ttl)
<$list filter=" [[$ttl$]]  +[removesuffix[ (Info)]]" />
\end
\define mac1()
---
The following contains details relating to <$macrocall $name=mac2 ttl={{!!
title}}/>

---
\end

<>


However, it doesn't work in preview, which threw me off for awhile. Perhaps 
one of the gurus here can explain why it works in implementation but not in 
preview. I could also make a version that worked in preview but not in the 
real tiddler. The difference between the two versions was the square 
brackets around the variable [[$ttl$]] in the macro. 

Good luck!
Mark

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:32:41 AM UTC-7, jonath...@wolke7.net wrote:
>
> Thanks, your solution is working – great!
>
>  
>
> One more question:
>
> How would I do it the other way round:
>
>  
>
> Linking from „myTiddler (info)“ to „myTiddler“  ?
>
>  
>
> I would have to shorten the title oft the current tiddler, i.e. cut off 
> the last 6 or 7 characters.
>
>  
>
> How would I do this?
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Transcluding the title of the current tiddler

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You have to try the code to see what I mean. When I say that it doesn't 
produce a link, I mean that it doesn't produce *any* text (linked or 
otherwise). That's why it's a bit mysterious. I would have expected it to 
produce a nowhere-link like "*Draft of *"

Mark

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:24:28 PM UTC-7, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Yes, it removes the suffix, leaving you with the title, minus " (info)" - 
> only in edit mode, the title of the tiddler you're editing has "draft of" 
> appended to the front, so it doesn't point to your original tiddler. I 
> think, possibly, drafts are anyway excluded from filter results by default 
> (?)
>
> If you want to, you can edit the text of tiddlers without putting them 
> into draft mode, by creating your own editor - I think Mat made something 
> called the "side editor" that does that (?).
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 7:57:54 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> But, why should that make a difference to removing the *suffix* ? When I 
>> say that it doesn't work, I mean that it shows *nothing*. I could 
>> understand if I was removing a prefix, since the prefix would be displaced 
>> by "Draft of".
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark 
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:40:55 PM UTC-7, c pa wrote:
>>>
>>> It doesn't work in preview because during editing the title is "Draft 
>>> of" + title 
>>>
>>> Draft of + title isn't contained in any foreign fields
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] use reveal for showing/hiding a button depending on if tiddler with a specific name does exist?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Unfortunately, I've never found it possible to pass a macro with a 
parameter inside another widget . You need to wrap it in a wrapper so the 
parameter is hidden. This worked for me, but I don't have your test data, 
or know how you're planning to use the results:

\define baseElem() <$macrocall $name=getElementID basename=$(basename)$/>
<$set name="basename" value={{$:/isms/tmp/NewISMSElement!!name_base}}>
<$set name="elementID" value=<> >



Good luck!
Mark



On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 7:59:01 AM UTC-7, Hans Maulwurf wrote:
>
> ok, one last question
>
> how do i give the variable "basename" to the inner macrocall inside the 
> second/nested set??
>
> <$set name="basename" value={{$:/isms/tmp/NewISMSElement!!name_base}}>
> <$set name="elementID" value=<> >> >
>
> 
>
>
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[tw] Re: Options for server-based TiddlyWiki

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I tried it as well. The text never seems to arrive.

Mark

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 12:38:45 PM UTC-7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> That is what a lazy loaded tiddler is, a tiddler without the text field. 
> Once you open it the text download starts. if you are getting an empty 
> tiddler after a while check the browser's console, maybe you are running 
> into CORS problems. 
>
> Regards 
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[tw] Re: TW5 ReleaseTemplate

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

If you use some templates out of context, they will use the current 
(currentTiddler or currentTab) context. This creates a loop where the 
tiddler is referring to itself referring to itself referring to itself ... 
ad infinitum.

To see the template used as it was meant, take a look at:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20Releases

HTH
Mark

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 5:23:47 AM UTC-7, Sergey Shishkin wrote:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#ReleaseTemplate
>
> ReleaseTemplate
> 
>
> ReleaseTemplate 
>
> Released TBA
> Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget
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[tw] Re: [TW5] More twederation from the meetup

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jed,

I've just made a "post". The main thing, and it's big for me, is that 
posting is almost impossible. Something about the way you are displaying 
the posts is slowing down typing speed to a crawl. It's not just the size 
of the TW -- which has ballooned to nearly 7 megs -- I can type fine (or as 
fine as TW5 ever lets me) in a new tiddler.

About the ballooning size, I'm wondering if all those bundles are being 
saved internally, and if they can/should be cleaned out? I've already 
deleted the group and other photos.

Thanks!
Mark
 

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:27:37 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The new plugin version is on twederation.tiddlyspot.com, there are some 
> posts there about how to upgrade but I expect there to be problems. If you 
> want to start over you can replace your current wiki with a blank one from 
> http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/TWederation
>
> The interface is simplified for use and we now have threaded discussions, 
> there is more but it is over on the site here 
>  because I made the site to use it. 
> There will continue to be many changes, but if there weren't what fun would 
> it be?
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] More twederation from the meetup

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Seems to relate to my use of the Pale Moon browser. On Firefox it's OK. But 
it's definitely just in the post field. Odd.

Thanks!
Mark

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:35:00 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Jed,
>
> I've just made a "post". The main thing, and it's big for me, is that 
> posting is almost impossible. Something about the way you are displaying 
> the posts is slowing down typing speed to a crawl. It's not just the size 
> of the TW -- which has ballooned to nearly 7 megs -- I can type fine (or as 
> fine as TW5 ever lets me) in a new tiddler.
>
> About the ballooning size, I'm wondering if all those bundles are being 
> saved internally, and if they can/should be cleaned out? I've already 
> deleted the group and other photos.
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>  
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:27:37 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> The new plugin version is on twederation.tiddlyspot.com, there are some 
>> posts there about how to upgrade but I expect there to be problems. If you 
>> want to start over you can replace your current wiki with a blank one from 
>> http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/TWederation
>>
>> The interface is simplified for use and we now have threaded discussions, 
>> there is more but it is over on the site here 
>>  because I made the site to use it. 
>> There will continue to be many changes, but if there weren't what fun would 
>> it be?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Appending (Rather than Overwriting) Text into a Tiddler

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Z

My quick test suggests that the names don't have to be separated by 
carriage returns. Try it and see.

The reason it matters is that I think (not sure) it might be possible to do 
this with the ActionListopsWidget operator without any extra-TW programming 
IF carriage returns are not required.


Maybe your imported tiddlers could be marked with a tag like IMPORT. Then 
you could use the tag filter, and all your users would have to do is 
uncheck the special IMPORT tag when they want to clear the decks. Or a 
simple button in the sidebar could wipe out the IMPORT tag with a single 
click.


Hmm ... If your users are so unsavvy, how do they manage to import the 
.JSON in the first place?


Mark


On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 4:17:11 PM UTC-7, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 29, 2016 at 12:18:56 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I don't follow your use case. Are both you and your users saving to the 
>> same TW? How are you overriding your users DefaultTiddlers?
>>
>
> For each 'update,' I'm planning on sending out a complete TW, with all new 
> posts (tiddlers) included (for those that don't wish to keep a TW around), 
> and also a .json file containing just the new posts since the last update, 
> for the folks who will be maintaining their own local TW.
>
> The method I was going to use was just to include a $:/DefaultTiddlers 
> tiddler containing the titles of the updated posts, so that they would 
> automatically open upon a refresh of the TW after importing the .json 
> file.  But after talking to my friend I see that would not work as well as 
> I thought...
>
>
> Why do you need to put a carriage return after each item, since it's all 
>> in the DefaultTiddlers which isn't usually used for viewing lists?
>>
>
> I thought the title of each tiddler in the file needed to be on its own 
> line?  eg:
>
> [[tiddler1]]
> [[tiddler2]]
> [[tiddler3]]
>
>
> Do your import tiddlers have anything in common? In particular, a tag? 
>> Then you could just add this to the bottom of the DefaultTiddlers:
>>
>> [tag[MyImportedTiddlers]]
>>
>> and your imported tiddlers would be automatically opened when the TW is 
>> opened.
>>
>
> That is a very good idea, and one that I hadn't considered at all...
>
> But, no, they don't *ALL* share a common tag - MOST are tagged "Movie", 
> some "Short Film" and then there's a handful of other tags...
>
> Plus, if I did a match on some tag within the DefaultTiddlers file, ALL 
> tiddlers with that tag would attempt to open, including others that were 
> already in the users' TW...
>
> If we were dealing with even moderately tech-savvy folks, it wouldn't be 
> such a problem, but trust me, the majority of my users do well to know how 
> to turn their computers on :-P - Even so, doing it the way I have 
> envisioned, I will still have to write up detailed instructions for them on 
> how to go into ControlPanel and delete the 'updated' tiddler titles after 
> they've viewed and digested them.
>
> --Zaphod
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Multi-level transclusion

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Well, I can see what the problem is, but I don't see what the solution is 
other than putting a template (e.g. {{||L1Template}}) into each L1 object.. 
Hopefully one of the gurus will have the magic.

At the Level 1 level, the template works because the Level 2 objects have 
actual content.

At the Root level, it doesn't work (well, it works, but doesn't do what you 
wanted it to do) because there's nothing actually in the Level 1 objects. 
You were hoping that it would bring in the rendered L1 objects, but instead 
it's bringing in the *contents *of the L1 object(s) -- which are empty.

If there is a workaround that would allow you to bring in the rendered 
contents of tiddler displayed via $:/tags/ViewTemplate it would be great to 
learn about it.

Good luck!
Mark

On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 4:22:41 PM UTC-7, William RENOU wrote:
>
> Here's my root tiddler viewTemplate :
> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[rootTag]]">
>
>   <$list filter="[tag[L1Tag]field:someField{!!title}]]">
>
> ! {{!!title}}
> <<<
> {{!!text}}
> <<<
>   
>
> 
>
> Here's my level 1 viewTemplate :
> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[L1Tag]]">
>
>   <$list filter="[tag[L2Tag]field:someField{!!someValue}]">
>
> !! {{!!title}}
> <<<
> {{!!text}}
> <<<
>   
>
> 
>
> There's a field reference from level 1 tiddlers to the root Tiddler (using 
> the root tiddler's title). Sames goes for L2 to L1 : it's referencing an ID 
> on the L1 tiddler.
> My first idea was to remove the block quotes, but it hasn't solved the 
> issue of content not showing.
>
> Le lundi 1 août 2016 00:34:17 UTC+2, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>>
>> On Sunday, July 31, 2016 at 3:14:49 PM UTC-7, William RENOU wrote:
>>>
>>> I was wondering if transcluding content accross several levels was 
>>> possible ? 
>>> Here's what I'm trying to do :
>>>
>>> RootTiddler (A)
>>> + L1SubTiddler (Aa)
>>>   + L2SubTiddler (Aa1)
>>>   + L2SubTiddler (Aa2)
>>> + L1SubTiddler (Ab)
>>>   + L2SubTiddler (Ab1)
>>> + L1SubTiddler (Ac)
>>>
>>> Both root-level tiddlers and level 1 subtitlers are displayed using 
>>> viewTemplates. Level 2 tiddlers are transcluded in their Level 1 parent, 
>>> transcluded again in the root Tiddler. 
>>> But for some reason, while directly viewing a L1 tiddler displays its L2 
>>> contents, opening the root Tiddler only displays the Level 1 contents.
>>>
>>
>> Show some code, please.  Or, better still, post your document online 
>> somewhere.
>> Then perhaps we can see what you are *actually* doing... rather than just 
>> reading a description of what you *want* to do.
>>
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>>
>>
>>

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