Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

DAVEH: LOLHow can anybody misspell g's name! ;-) Ooops.sorry for the lack of substance in this post, JD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your only point of substance in this last response was the shame you placed on me for misspelling Gary's name. I continue to

Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

DAVEH: To which TTer are you referring, g.. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what?you envision afellowship with no warmth? -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

DAVEH: Apparently many TTers want me to teach LDS theology on TT, yet some wish to criticize me for complying with their wishes. Seems like a no win situation, eh Lance. Lance Muir wrote: Apparently there exists a 'collective' anticipation of your answer. Yes, I am interested as

Re: [TruthTalk] Preach report

We can talk about our experiences in the "Puppet ministry" Going to the Indy 500 Kevin?

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

DAVEH: For what reason should I explain why/where you are wrong about my beliefs, Perry. I don't mind explaining to those who really want to know what I believe, but in your case it seems your intention is to denigrate my beliefs. You've stated that your mission (so to speak) is to

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

DAVEH: FWIW.I agree with what you explained below, Blaine. But I've always thought LDS theology allows that Adam was a God in the pre-mortal existence, inasmuch as he was one of the key players (as you indicated below) who sat in on the planning sessions (so to speak) of the plan of

[TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:44:36 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In you statment below, you initiate your "discussion" with falsehood -- the claim that I am confused and you are not. Grade school combat tactics. Just plain silly. Why did Bill leave -- and probably Caroline

[TruthTalk] What is sin

Shameful? You have got to be kidding JD. Just what was done to the two from Canada that was shameful? I'd call the slams against Christine's father and the continual slurs against her mental ability and character a much greater problem. What she writes is not taken seriously because she is

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Why does the Mormon Church mess with the Bible at all? May just as well toss it for it loses all credibility in the light of their prophetical voices and other teachings. This stuff is occult. jt On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blaine

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Blaine scripture teaches nothing about any pre-existence so it is all a figment of someone's imagination. The Bible says the hidden things belong to the Lord but what has been revealed is for the Lord's people and their children... and what is revealed says there is just ONE God. jt On

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Planning sessions? Tell me you are kidding DaveH ... Like God is a committee and needs input? Also my Bible says that the Holy Spirit is the executor of the will of the Father and the Word who became the Son. jt On Wed, 25 May 2005 00:06:20 -0700 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Do you interpret being asked to answer a few questions about your doctrine as "being asked to teach" DaveH? I'd call that a bit of a leap ... jt On Tue, 24 May 2005 23:17:01 -0700 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Apparently many TTers want me to teach LDS theology on TT, yet

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

I understand that monies owed the US total 3 trillion. The 'debt' owed the US by Europe, Canada and, many other parts of the globe for it's aid in both dollars and lives is incalculable. This issue though connected, needs to be evaluated separately from the current state of affairs in your

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

Sometimes, wisely, churches conduct exit interviews. It is your forum. I, for one, would appreciate hearing from the departed and the nearly-departed on this. Would you welcome such? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May

Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

For any 'line-crossing' on my part as to the Miller's deux, I acknowledge so doing and, I apoligize. I shall have a word with myself on the matter of excess. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

They don't because their 'prophet' did not. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 05:03 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of

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Some, holding to a differing interpretation than your own, actually believe that the scriptures do so teach. I do not count myself among that number. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent:

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And that would demonstrate...? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 24, 2005 19:44 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin I'm betting two to one that Christine outlasts Debbie and Caroline

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Izzy proclaims triumphally ' we could have nuked them all'. Please let us know should you find yourself in a decision making capacity with regard such. You slipped out of commenting on 'Korea, Viet Nam, Beirut and Somalia'. Other than a retort, do you wish to address each? Comparing these

Re: [TruthTalk] Preach report

Yes we expect about 30 preachers Very large crowds to preach to.Parade sat, battle zone saturday night race crowd Sunday.Ruben Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can talk about our experiences in the "Puppet ministry" Going to the Indy 500 Kevin?

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Who is Adam? LDS say he is the "ancient of days" The std works says he is the one who sits on the throne. Adam godDave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: FWIW.I agree with what you explained below, Blaine. But I've always thought LDS theology allows that Adam was a God in the pre-mortal

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

LDS today, do not teach Adam-God and call it a theory in spite of brigham calling it a doctrine. They refuse to acknowledge it was ever tasught. Many offshoots have left the church over this doctrine, called fundamentalists because they believe Adam-god is a fundamental of the mormon faith. So LDS

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Maybe Brigham was being a little vague in referring to him as a "God," but he definitely was our father, and, in a sense, our God, in that he was the first man, and the progenitor of all of us. Blaine says Adam is "our God" WOW Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine scripture teaches

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

And Satan was a committee member! http://scriptures.lds.org/abr/4 2626And the Gods took counsel among themselves Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Planning sessions? Tell me you are kidding DaveH ... Like God is a committee and needs input? Also my Bible says that the Holy Spirit is the

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

"The President of the Church is the only man on earth authorized by God to go beyond or add to the scriptures" Teachings of theLiving ProphetsP18 published CJCLDS 1982 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't because their 'prophet' did not. - Original Message - From: Judy

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She is more resilient!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that would demonstrate...?- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: May 24, 2005 19:44Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin I'm betting

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

This is what I found to be the case many years ago. I should like to hear from the resident Mormons on this, with clarity. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 07:47 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon

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I await the 'exit interviews'. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 08:04 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin She is more resilient!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH: LOLHow can anybody misspell g's name! ;-) Ooops.sorry for the lack of substance in this post, JD. We all mizsepll words at times. I even spelled "of" as "uv" once. It is

Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

John wrote: dicussions never begin with personal attacks, well meaning or not. I don't think pointing out doubt concerning the reality of the kingdom of God being here is a personal attack. John wrote: You did not contrast me and biblical application; you contrasted me and the reality of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

John wrote: I am surprised at your affiliation with the Cof C (non-instrument?. Yes, non-instrument. John wrote: There is absolutely nothing that you have written that would be allowed in that sect. Jopefully you are beginning to settle down a bit and take root somewhere. Well, this was

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Kevin wrote: I fail to see what your example of Angels has to do with God having a body, anymore than using an amoeba as an example.If angels have bodies, and angels are invisible, then the Biblical statement that God is invisible says nothing about whether or not he has a body. Do you

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

Too much good 'stuff' by BOTH participants in this conversation to respond to in detail (time). 1. David: did you just 'plant' a 'church'? What is your office in that 'church'? 2. Can ONLY apostles 'plant' churches? 3. I believe that all should pray God's blessing on both enterprises. (forgive

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

DaveH wrote: Apparently many TTers want me to teach LDS theology on TT, yet some wish to criticize me for complying with their wishes. Seems like a no win situation, eh Lance. Let me clarify yet again what TruthTalk is all about and Dave Hansen's situation in regards to this forum. TruthTalk

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

Lance wrote: I, for one, would appreciate hearing from the departed and the nearly-departed on this. Would you welcome such? Yes, I sure would welcome such. I suspect most of the answers would involve time constraints. TruthTalk has too many posts for active people to keep up. I have

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

An amen from me on this. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 09:09 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT DaveH wrote:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

This exemplifies 'open structured thinking'. The Spirit of God enables such. John is exhibiting this through his recent encounter with the 'recovery of the Trinity'. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 08:53

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Dave, I don't mind if you choose not to answer, but no need to whine about it. If you and I are through discussing things on TT, then so be it. You said if I want to know what mormons believe, then I sould ask a mormon. I did that, but he has no answer for me. Who should I turn to for the truth

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And also with you. I shall ask Caroline, Debbie, Jonathan, Bill and, Slade if they'd be open to the 'interview'. Why'd y'all leave? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 09:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

DAVEH: Thanx for your clarification. To me it remains a no win situation when it is implied that I am a liar for responding to questions about my beliefs. David Miller wrote: I would not say that it is a "no win situation" just because a person's viewpoint is criticized in this forum.

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

David, Dave is smarter than you are giving him credit for being. He knows what he is doing. He is playing a word game. I have no problem with him pushing his mormon views into the discussions here...I just want him to acknowledge that is what he is doing. He is intentionally misinterpreting

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Dave, I wanted to add that, although you are whining about answerig my question, and doing everything except answering it, it has served it's secondary purpose, and that is to expose and stimulate discussion on the non-biblical and heretical aspects of mormon beliefs. In the meantime, my

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Kevin wrote: FATHER ADAM OUR GOD Brigham Young, in a sermon in the tabernacle in Salt Lake City on April 9, 1852, said: When our Father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it WITH A CELESTIAL BODY, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world.

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

DAVEH: No Judy, I do not. But effectively that is what it is in a sense. And it is certainly taken as such by some TTers, who evidently view my explanations as an effort to try to convert TTers to Mormonism. From my perspective, the problem is the accusation that I am dishonest about my

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

DAVEH: No JudyI am not kidding, though I may have chosen better words (counsel) to describe it. When God spoke as recorded in Genesis (1:26), he seemed to be discussing the creation with others.. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:. ...I believe

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

The Genesis and Job comments are supported by some commentators. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 10:29 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

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I, for one, am pleased to hear fully and candidly from Mr. Hansen. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 10:05 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Dave Hansen wrote: To me it remains a no win situation when it is implied that I am a liar for responding to questions about my beliefs. From my perspective, if a member implies you are a liar for responding to questions about your belief, that member is mistaken. You have made your case,

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Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Perry wrote: David, Dave is smarter than you are giving him credit for being. He knows what he is doing. He is playing a word game. Well, maybe I have fallen into his trap, but it does seem to me that you have put him in an awkward position. If he answers you, then you will likely use that

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

David, and Dave, Dave states that he is not here [on TT] to learn the truth...he is here to learn what protestants think, and why. While not part of his pat statement about why he is on TT, he also said that he is not here tio convert anyone to mormonism or to teach mormonism. I believe

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Blaine wrote: ... it came through to me that she was one of my immediate ancestors, a woman born in Norway, who had been active in converting her husband and family to Mormonism, and that she was there to show her approval of what we were in process of doing. Blaine, I appreciate you sharing

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

There was a significant word game going on whenI first arrived on this forum. LDS using words that seemed intended to cloak the true LDS understanding. I think the christians here have a far better understanding of mormonism now then in past years There are words that are familiar to christians

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

It is amazing how backwards LDS can get things. Angel of light introduces Joe to becoming a god The fall is a fall upward. A sacrifice of fruit on the altar http://www.helpingmormons.org/TLC_Manti/PhotoAlbum/Other%20Photos/Adam%20and%20Eve%20Sacrifice.html Maybe joes tutor introduced the Adam god

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/terminology.htm What a wakeup call. I followed this link and found this: JESUS CHRIST: LDS--A created being, the first spirit child of Elohim and one of his wives, the spirit brother of Lucifer the devil. So Jesus and Satan are BROTHERS? I thought

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Christine:Please! One need not disregard the Bible to believe anything. One need only disregard your interpretation. What you find to be the plain meaning of something is not necessarily what another thoughtful believe might find. Agreed? - Original Message - From: Christine Miller

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

evidently view my explanations as an effort to try to convert TTers to Mormonism Like who? Can you post a quote showing this? I think your smoke screen has gotten away with you it is in your eyes now. Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: No Judy, I do not. But effectively that is what it is

Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

What is the rest of the story Dave? Which led to those spirits that were less valiant were cursed with a BLACK SKIN You left that out Dave! THE SEED OF CAIN: "were more valiant than others…Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

To name just one, Bart Ehrman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 13:19 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS... Who?Lance Muir

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Who?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Genesis and Job comments are supported by some commentators. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 10:29 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Again, this Mormon doctrine echoes Jewish thought. The Midrash Rabbah comments on Genesis 1:26 by not only asserting that the us is a council, but by going so far as to discribe the conversation that proceeded the creation of man: When the Holy One, Blessed be He, was about to create Adam, the

RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

So you believe angels are departed human beings? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:19 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Yes, I do see your point and I do agree. But the Bible speaks to be understood, and it is written to inform us. We must interpret, that's true, just as I must interpret your post when I read it. The Bible is very clear on what it means to be a child of God and a brother of Jesus. It requires

RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin

Exactly right, jt. When one has blinders on how do they see? (Or is it logs?) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:57 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

I meant a christian not a proto OrthLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To name just one, Bart Ehrman - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 13:19 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic

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Are you enjoying your politically irrelevant rants Lance? First you say we should forgive all debts against the USA, then you make remarks that we are going to go bankrupt because of the debts, etc. The Bible says lend and do not ask in return. That's basically what we do. We don't worry about.

RE: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

The constant slurs such as grade school tactics.your PhD and all.I am better than you. Who is looking childish here? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:51 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:

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Perhaps asking the Lord to give you a new heart would be even better? (Sin is sin, excessive or not.) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:09 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk]

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America hutzpa! J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:05 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin She is more resilient! Lance Muir [EMAIL

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Just be glad Im not in control of the black box on a big PMS day. J Beirut and Somalia were not wars the last I heardjust terrorists acting normal for themselves. (Funny how they dont bother Canada; I wonder why they like you so much?) Korea and VietNam were called on account of getting

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And who were you expecting to exit? Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:19 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin I await the

RE: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:25 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation Dave Hansen wrote: DAVEH: LOLHow can anybody misspell g's name!

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So do I. - Original Message - From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:42 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT Yes, I do see your point

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

Who said you're not discerning? Whoops, that'd be me. Now I need to take it back. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:49 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave

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Yes, I am. Thanks for asking. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:49 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin Are you enjoying your politically irrelevant rants Lance? First

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

Lance what are you referring to by this? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:17 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation This

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

That is what i have been trying to tell them for years! By the way yes it is shocking isn't it.Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/terminology.htmWhat a wakeup call. I followed this link and foundthis:JESUS CHRIST:LDS--A created being, the first

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

Do you ever think before writing? Sorry, that's a rhetorical question. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:55 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin Perhaps asking the Lord to give

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You 'feebed' out on this but, we'll give you a pass bein' tired and all. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:57 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk]

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

YOU, for the 4th or 5th time! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:58 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin And who were you expecting to “exit”? Iz

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

Enjoy yourself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:10 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin Yes, I am. Thanks for asking.

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

What you find to be the plain meaning of something is not necessarily what another thoughtful believe might find. It is a lie that you teach. You may not have a clue what is true, but rest assured through the promise revelation of Jesus Christ, we can know the TRUTH. I know the TRUTH when I see

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

I did think about it. Did you? Did you apologize for a sin or not? If it was a sin, then being excessive about it or not is irrelevant. A sinless heart does not treat a young lady shamefully. My point is not to shame you, but to point out that the solution is to seek a sinless walk in

RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Bingo! Departed Ressurected "gods" Just waiting on their bodies. Oh where o where can my Body be? My Body lies over the ocean?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you believe angels are departed human beings? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

Sorry youre tired. Have a nice nap. Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk]

RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

Im just like a bad penny. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:13 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin YOU, for the

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

According to Lance's Narnia Theory of Interpretation and Post Modern Biblical Relativism, we can never really know what Lanceis trying to communicate!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I do see your point and I do agree. But the Biblespeaks to be understood, and it is written to

RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

If it was not for the US Lance would be speaking the Dutch right now! Heil Left Wing Ideolog'sShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you enjoying your politically irrelevant rants Lance? First you say weshould forgive all debts against the USA, then you make remarks that we aregoing to go

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

Wise in your own conceit? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you ever think before writing? Sorry, that's a rhetorical question. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 14:55 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Ask a Mormon. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 15:28 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT What you

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

That's apparent. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 15:32 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

In which branch did you serve? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 15:34 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin If it was not for the US Lance would be speaking the

Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin

If the young lady can't stand the heat (she can by the way) then she'd be wise to depart the kitchen (she didn't). Like 'sweetface', she's in the process of getting an education. One day she'll hang out her 'shingle' and charge big bucks for knowing stuff other people don't. YOU ought to be

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Do you think it is possible to know the truth from the Word, Lance? And if so, don't we have a responsibility to that truth? Blessings! --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's apparent. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Yes yes. Don't YOU think it is possible that some who KNOW the Truth (Jesus) articulate the truth (scripture) incorrectly? What's the deal with that? - Original Message - From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 25, 2005 16:08 Subject: [Bulk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

What is it with this "PhD" thing you got going on, Izzy. Over the past, say, five months -- how many tinmes have I mentioned it? Threetimes, or four ?? The last time was to set up the fact that David is eduacted and, therefore, able to carry on discussions without first becoming personal. Nothing

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Yes and that thoughtful believer just might be you, Christine !! Have you ever changed your mind in regards to the meaning of a particular passage? Of course you have. How do you know, then, that what you now accept is not due for change sometime in the future? Answer: you don't. This is

Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

Would this includemy previously happy ex wife? JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:41:18 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT So you believe angels are

Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

Good illustration. Tell us of your experience with blinders. Inquiring minds ---Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:47:17 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is sin Exactly right, jt. When one has blinders on

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation

Good idea -- if their comments are accepted by the opposition. Otherwise, it will the very waste of timethey thought to excape --- I imagine. I'm all ears.. JD-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:23:57 -0400Subject:

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