DaveH, is this also how you view the Bible and the BoM? Is the BoM more
trustworthy than the Bible, from your perspective?
DAVEH: I view it a bit differently than Blaine. As I see it, both
records lack many important details. However, when used together, they
compliment each other and give
DAVEH: I've discussed how I view salvation before, Bishop. But it
was prior to your arrival.
Prior to the Lord's resurrection, all men were stuck (so to speak)
in a realm of existing only as a spirit. From my LDS perspective, this
was prevented eternal progression. By virtue of the Lord's
A David but who will protect her from you (your errant
epistemology - your errant theologizing - your errant regulative beliefs)?
But it's a little late for that, isn't it?
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Sent: July 06,
Ahhh David but, YOU ARE A SCRIBE! I cannot over emphasize your
responsibility vis a vis the authority vested in you both by God and by
those who 'sit under you'. It's that millstone thingy David.
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
NO CHURCH, NOT EVEN A HOUSE CHURCH, DAVID/IZ, CAN
AVOID TRADITIONS LIKE THE PLAGUE. Where the two of you meet to worship, teach,
learn etc. is replete with tradition. If it is not today then, it will be
tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
I say again that the Spirit of God is very much
One who has been reading you, David, believes you
to be 'Oneness' in your understanding of the Godhead! IFF this were so then, you
would've gone further than being a non-trinitarian. You would be
anti-trinitarian.
Will you kindly tell us if that person is
correct?
Lance
Kevin wrote:
Who else burns people for having a BIBLE?
Huh? I think you aremischaracterizing the truth now. Can
you name for me one person who was burned for HAVING a Bible?
Peace be with you.David Miller.
John wrote:
So I was right! Papa is worried and
muct rush to the rescue.
No, John, you were not right. Worry is a sin. Protecting those under my
authority is not a sin. Surely you understand the difference.
By the way, Christine, being the humble woman of God that she is, greatly
What ever happened to the David who used to
conclude his 'teaching' statements with "Do you agree with the foregoing'
Yes/No?
It was obvious early on that Debbie was a superior
'reader'. I'm now beginning to note that she is also a superior
'theologian'.
Light Dark:Duality Light Dark
Bill speaks here of a believer's obedience. IFF
Judy's understanding is the same then, David, you'd better jump in once again
(cover Judy's back, as it were)for she has just said that the 'natural man'
still exists within you. Therefore, your teaching on 'perfection' is quite
literally
LOL Davidyour argument "worry is a sin, therefore, it couldn't apply to me" thingy contrasted to your insistence that you are not a perfectionist (sinless) salvantionist is rather humorrous.
Secondly, shedoesn't need protectionshe needs sane and
Angels are not the same "form" as men
Jesus was in the "form" of God and became a diff "form" made in the likeness of men:
Phil 2:7 took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men
Hebrews 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels
Angels were created as Angels
And what is the response of many a believer to the reading of Bill's defense? Well, the first response is not one of continued debate -- at least not for me. It is to close one's eyes for a moment and say, "Thank you Jesus." If any of you think you have struck a cord by accusing us of a form of
Can you tell us in what ways the spirit is present?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NO CHURCH, NOT EVEN A HOUSE CHURCH, DAVID/IZ, CAN AVOID TRADITIONS LIKE THE PLAGUE. Where the two of you meet to worship, teach, learn etc. is replete with tradition. If it is not today then, it will be
Blaine wrote:
All truth may be determined by scientific approach
--do you believe this?
No, absolutely not.
Blaine wrote:
Joseph Smith says he prayed and had his prayers
answered. This can be tested, by repeating as closely
as possible, his original investigative experiment. Pray,
and if
Please support your position with
scripture. If you cannot then you are making false assertions based upon what
you wish instead of the fact that Gods Word clearly condems the vain
traditions of men. Why would you want to do that? Amazing. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I forgot to mention, Debbie, that just
because your experience of the rcc has been completely different doesnt
change the fact that its man made Traditions alway overrule
scripture every time there is a conflict between the two. This is a fact. How
does anyone live with that?
Blaine wrote:
Just for the record, I read a book on near-death
experiences, wherein the writer said he had learned
during one such experience that he was a child of God
and existed as a spirit being before taking a mortal body.
Just because he had a near-death experience does not mean that
And nothing has changed!
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/burn-heretics.htmDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin wrote:
Who else burns people for having a BIBLE?
Huh? I think you aremischaracterizing the truth now. Can you name for me one person who was burned for HAVING a Bible?
Peace
As his Bible aroused the English conscience, the pope felt a chill; he heard unearthly sounds rattle through the empty caverns of his soul, and he mistook Wickliffs bones for his Bible. The moldering skeleton of the sleeping translator polluted the consecrated ground where it slept. The Council
Is there any greater scientific proof than this that Joseph Smith was a fraud and a false prophet?
http://www.irr.org/mit/kinderhook-plates.html
David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaine wrote: All truth may be determined by scientific approach --do you believe this?No, absolutely not.Blaine
Traditions of men are"condemned" by Chrsit only on the occasion that they become a substitute for the expressly stated will of God. By Christ's time, the Jewish religion was replete with traditions of men. To imagine that any of us are involved in a religious _expression_ thatis completely void
Burn me at the steak
well, medium, rare?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And what is the response of many a believer to the reading of Bill's defense? Well, the first response is not one of continued debate -- at least not for me. It is to close one's eyes for a moment and say, "Thank you Jesus." If
Dave Hansen wrote:
Matters of religion should never be matters of controversy. We neither
argue with a lover about his taste, nor condemn him, if we are just, for
knowing so human a passion. -George Santayana, philosopher (1863-1952)
You and David live with that! (the traditions
within your own 'churches')
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are ONE IN CHRIST
I forgot to mention,
denying the gospel message is no joke!!!-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:11:53 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the Bible
Burn me at the steak
well, medium, rare?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And
No Terry, that was Peter Ustinov in 'Viva Max'.
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Sent: July 07, 2005 08:21
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Dave Hansen wrote:
Matters of religion should never be matters of
Lance Muir wrote:
NO CHURCH, NOT EVEN A HOUSE CHURCH,
DAVID/IZ, CAN AVOID TRADITIONS LIKE THE PLAGUE. Where the two of you
meet to worship, teach, learn etc. is replete with tradition. If it is
not today then, it will be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
I say again that
Should you be wondering if I believe that the world
is flat, I don't! Yes Terry, there really are false teachers. Joseph Smith was a
false teacher.
Some part of what everyone teaches is false and,
that's not the same thing.Some of what the Pope teaches/taught is/was false.Some
of what David
Debbie wrote:
If by always you understand as long as we
are in this life, on some occasions, then yes,
you do hear that. But someone might misapprehend
your representation of our position as on every occasion.
Well, I'm sorry for being a poor writer. I thought context would make it
clear
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Lance wrote:
A David but who will protect her from you
(your errant epistemology - your errant theologizing
- your errant regulative beliefs)? But it's a little late
for that, isn't it?
Do you realize how terrible such comments sound to a conservative? Liberals
always attack the
Lance wrote:
Ahhh David but, YOU ARE A SCRIBE!
Standing next to the average joe who is ignorant of the Bible, maybe I would
be mistaken for a scribe, but next to guys like Bill Taylor? No way. I
have never had a religion class in my life, and you, more than anyone, knows
how my theological
As to your response hereunder, I concur.
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 07, 2005 09:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not
be split
Lance wrote:
A David but who will
What then, is your role within your own house church? David, you can 'hold
your own' with anyone. There is not a TT participant who'd say otherwise.
Certainly not me!
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 07, 2005 09:20
Lance wrote:
NO CHURCH, NOT EVEN A HOUSE CHURCH,
DAVID/IZ, CAN AVOID TRADITIONS LIKE
THE PLAGUE.
You brought my name into this, so let me say for the record that while I
recognize that there are bad traditions and vain traditions, there also are
good traditions. I do not disagree with your
IMO both of the points in contention hereunder, as taught by YOU, are
misapprehensions of that which is true.
Bill, John, Jonathan, Caroline and, now Debbie have 'taken a run' at showing
you that this is so. All, to date, have been unsuccessful.
IMO, neither they nor anyone COULD ever
Lance wrote:
One who has been reading you, David,
believes you to be 'Oneness' in your understanding
of the Godhead! IFF this were so then, you would've
gone further than being a non-trinitarian. You would
be anti-trinitarian.
Will you kindly tell us if that person is correct?
That person
In your post to Debbie you made reference, IMO
incorrectly, to her failure to apprehend your meaning. You thought her caught up
in your words and sentences apart from your meaning.
This is that syntactic/semantic distinction we
spoke of long ago. I perceive that you actually do understand
Lance wrote:
Bill speaks here of a believer's obedience.
IFF Judy's understanding is the same then,
David, you'd better jump in once again (cover
Judy's back, as it were)for she has just said
that the 'natural man' still exists within you.
Therefore, your teaching on 'perfection' is
quite
John wrote:
LOL Davidyour argument worry
is a sin, therefore, it couldn't apply to me thingy
contrasted to your insistence that you are not a
perfectionist (sinless) salvantionist is rather humorrous.
I do not believe that perfection brings salvation, but rather that a Godly
You ask 'does speaking this by revelation' make a difference? It most
assuredly does! You may not think it David, but I regard you highly.
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 07, 2005 09:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus
-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:02:24 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split
John wrote:
LOL Davidyour argument "worry
is a sin, therefore, it
John wrote:
In part, it is tradition that separates it from the
poor old Baptists, the Methodists, the Apostolics,
and so on.
Yes, but this is BAD tradition because these groups should not be separated.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace,
Amen!
--- David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance wrote:
A David but who will protect her from you
(your errant epistemology - your errant
theologizing
- your errant regulative beliefs)? But it's a
little late
for that, isn't it?
Do you realize how terrible such
Izzy wrote:
[in the rcc] ... man made Traditions alway overrule
scripture every time there is a conflict between the two.
This is a fact. How does anyone live with that?
Lance wrote:
You and David live with that! (the traditions
within your own 'churches')
You don't understand, Lance.
All tradition, personally held, adds to our uniqueness,"separates" us from the others and, by (DM) definition is BAD tradition. No tradition is universally held by honest people. How is it that there is good tradition and bad tradition as per a previous post?
Again, I postulate (but with some
Sunday observance is a tradition, folks!!! Get used to it.
JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:38:07 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST
Izzy wrote:
[in the rcc] ... man made
What a truly great film!
And, YES YOU DO LIVE WITH THAT!
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 07, 2005 10:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST
Izzy wrote:
[in the rcc] ... man made Traditions
A daughter's loyalty is a good thing.
Jd-Original Message-From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Dualism - splitting apart that which ought not be split
Amen!
--- David Miller [EMAIL
jt: I don't adhere to Bills TFT doctrine that everyone and everything was assumed into
Christ at the resurrection and that the unassumed is also unhealed. Jesus did not die
and was not raised to heal the old fallen creation. He is, in fact, the first born of the
New Creation and it takes
Lance wrote:
Bill, John, Jonathan, Caroline and, now Debbie have
'taken a run' at showing you that this is so. All, to date,
have been unsuccessful. IMO, neither they nor anyone
COULD ever demonstrate that this is so to your
satisfaction.
None of these you mention have successfully even
None of these you mention have successfully even parroted back what I teach on the matter. DM
You must be so proud - a teacher who does not communicate Do you imagine that the four or five you mentioned who have failed to capture your ideas are equally impaired?
JD
Lance wrote:
YES YOU DO LIVE WITH THAT!
Let me rephrase and see if we are talking about the same thing. I live with
tradition, but I do not live with the tradition that tradition overrules
Scripture. Do you understand what I am saying?
If there is a conflict between tradition and Scripture,
. . . In other words, there is a spiritual truth and understanding that is
understandable in the heart, but not with
language.
Very interesting, David. I agree with you and call this understanding
theological instinct, a tacit knowing in a spiritual context. I would like
to bring this back up for
John wrote:
All tradition, personally held, adds to our uniqueness,
separates us from the others and, by (DM) definition
is BAD tradition.
Traditions that separate believers from unbelievers is good. Traditions
that separate believers from one another is bad.
John wrote:
No tradition is
As I suspected, Kevin, you are misapprehending the issue here. The
issue here was not someone HAVING a Bible. The issue was translating the
Scriptures without the authority of the church. I do not agree with what
the RCC did to Wycliffe, Tyndale, and others, but when we represent this as the
I do understand.
Now, we are back to this matter of teaching/interpretation are we not,
David.
Example:This teaching in question (not to you but, to others). You believe
it and, I'd assume that you also teach it. I believe that, at the very
least, every member of your family believes it (whoops!
Ok, David.Now that you have gotten that out of your system, shall we continue? Mine in bold.-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:05:47 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST
John wrote:
All
John wrote:
To imagine that any on this site would ever say
He can't take care of our part is truly beyond
me. OUR PART HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM
FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME.
John, can you elaborate on Paul's perspective in 1 Cor. 9:27? Don't you see
any perspective on his part of cooperating
I do not have time right now.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I suspected, Kevin, you are misapprehending the issue here. The issue here was not someone HAVING a Bible. The issue was translating the Scriptures without the authority of the church. I do not agree with what the RCC did to
Also, Izzy, there are traditions beyond whether you
use a guitar or an organ or whether the announcements come before or after the
offering or how many times you have communion. There are also traditions like
always supporting a particular political party or ideology, using or avoiding a
". . . In other words, there is a spiritual truth
and understanding that isunderstandable in the heart, but not
withlanguage."
Very interesting, David. I agree with you and call
this understanding"theological instinct," a tacit knowing in a spiritual
context. I would liketo bring this back
John wrote:
Let me ask you this: if I continue in an
addiction, or if I continue as a selfish person
- not seeing my own failings, am I saved or not?
Probably not, but the Lord ultimately is the judge. Justification comes
before the change, so it is possible for a repentent person to
I thank you all for your interest in my teaching. I
gave this message Wednesday night to the youth group
at my church, which is a group of 30 middle and high
school kids. So, this might be sophmoric for you all,
but here it is. :-)
Separating your Spirituality from Ordinary Life.
To the seven
Personal effort is always and only out of response to God's saving activity. It is "required" in the same way breathing is required to continue physical life. All references of joint participation are to be viewed in this context. That is the gospel message as I understand it. To argue that my
Working??-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:33:48 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST
I do not have time right now.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I suspected, Kevin,
John wrote:
You must be so proud - a teacher who does
not communicate
No, just the opposite. I am plagued with poor communication skills.
My only reason for bringing it up was because one should not discount what I
share just because I am poor at communicating it. If my views were
Well, I guess you are saying that our corporate inability to parrot your views is better than actually misunderstanding what you have said!I will have to think about this.
JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Debbie
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:51
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the
Bible
And what is the response of many a believer to the
Well, for one thing, he is present in individual
Catholic believers.
Debbie
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:57
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers
are ONE IN CHRIST
Can you
David wrote:
Standing next to the average joe who is ignorant of the Bible, maybe
Iwouldbe mistaken for a scribe, but next to guys like Bill
Taylor?
Lance wrote: David, you can 'holdyour own' with anyone. There is not
a TT participant who'd say otherwise.Certainly not me!
Thanks for the
Sorry about all the duplicates. I don't understand
what's going on for sure. I also sent another post before this one that hasn't
come through yet, so don't be surprised if several of it suddenly
appear.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Bill Taylor
To:
Lance wrote:
Further, many will experience
unimaginable frustration over their
inability to attain to the unattainable.
Is this event evidence of a false teaching? I don't
mind sharing with you that I was once frusterated with
myself about trying to live in holiness. I would go a
week without
Working - 40 hours and then some with 7X24X365 on call
Preaching - in the last week have preached in Columbus OH, NYC, Rochester, Olcott NY and numerous times in Buffalo
This weekend JW district convention, Corn Hill Arts fest, Mormon Hill Cumorah Pag
Living - Girls baseball games It is palyoof
The point is that there are many true believers there, in fact there are aspects of the gospel which they actually grasp and celebrate and practise better than other Christians. And most evangelicals (including those evangelicals who have been Catholics themselves), misunderstandmany Catholic
How does this spirit manifest itself?
How can I know that it is the Spirit of God?Debbie Sawczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, for one thing, he is present in individual Catholic believers.
Debbie
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
You lead a busy life, Kevin. Your ability to balance
work/preaching/life convicts.
Blessings
--- Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Working - 40 hours and then some with 7X24X365 on
call
Preaching - in the last week have preached in
Columbus OH, NYC, Rochester, Olcott NY and numerous
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill speaks here of a believer's obedience. IFF
Judy's understanding is the same then, David, you'd better jump in once again
(cover Judy's back, as it were) for she has just said that the 'natural man'
still
John wrote:Let me ask you this: if I continue in
anaddiction, or if I continue as a selfish person- not seeing
my own failings, am I saved or not?
JD let me ask for your input here. Below are some
excerpts from Joseph Duncan's web blog. He appears to know of God, love, and
even Jesus. He
I encourage you in the Lord, David.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 07, 2005 12:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the
Bible
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:11:14 -0400
If what you are saying is what he is saying...No Problemo! I believe it
to be rather a common understanding.
- Original Message -
From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: July 07, 2005 12:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN
jt: I don't agree with Bill that there is no natural
man in christians;
Judy, I did not understand you to be speaking of "the old flesh nature,"
but rather "the natural man," i.e., one who does not have theHoly Spirit's
indwelling -- in other words a non-Christian.If
youareusingthese
David Miller wrote:
Lance wrote:
A David but who will protect her from you
(your errant epistemology - your errant theologizing
- your errant regulative beliefs)? But it's a little late
for that, isn't it?
Do you realize how terrible such comments sound to a
[Note thread title change, a bit late.]
Ditto. For David: I am in process of preparing a
response to yours on the topic (which introduced anew thought or two for
me, so I am taking my time), butI may not need to if youand
Christine are saying the same thing.
Debbie
- Original
The same way you recognize it in any other
Christian. Of course, Kevin, if you really are certain that there is not a
single believer in the Catholic church, then I suppose the Spirit of God is not
there, at least not in the way I'm talking about.
Debbie
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Lance wrote:
If what you are saying is what he is saying...No
Problemo!
Yes! Exactly. This is exactly what my father is
saying.
When you take your eyes off of yourself and learn to
seek God then you will live a righteous life as a
righteous, favored child of God.
Somehow (it seems) you
the communion of the saints, for starters. But
right now my brain is too taxed with too many other thingsto go into
detail and I'm already spending too much time on the list. There is potentially
a huge amount of material.If that looks to you like ducking, so be it. In
the meantimeyou might
Forget the 'OUR POSTS' business. Your post on this cut to the chase. Your
dear old Dad has been labouring to say in a 1,000 posts what you said in
one.
David: May I suggest that you hire Christine to do your writing for you?
Or, Christine you may have misrepresented your dear old Dad on this
But for now, David, just the following
clarification:
Debbie wrote: The practical upshot of
this is not that we should have no
confidence at all as interpreters,David
responded:
This would be a BAD thing, not a good
thing.
I'm wondering if you missed the "not" [in red]
above. I agree
I do believe there are believers in the Catholic
Church, but I do not believe this speaks to the
church's credit. It always seemed to me that the
Spirit chose to dwell in some Catholic individuals IN
SPITE of the RCC.
My roommate last year was Catholic, and I believe she
is my sister in Christ.
Lance wrote to David:
May I suggest that you hire Christine to do
your writing for you?
Good idea, Lance. May I send you the bill? :-)
Lance wrote:
Or, Christine you may have misrepresented your
dear old Dad on this point which, by the by, I believe
you may have.
No, she represented me
Debbie wrote:
I'm wondering if you missed the not [in red] above.
I agree that having no confidence at all as interpreters
would be a bad thing. Such total lack of confidence
would not be the upshot of the approach I was defending.
I was just trying to make sure you knew that I did not
Whoops! 'those of us who love God will not sin' says David Miller. IFF that
is what Christine meant then, I for one, do indeed, sadly, find myself back
at the beginning - in disagreement - with both of you.
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Actually it is PLAYOFF time for the girls, not palyoof!
Although the way they been playin maybe it is palyoof!Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You lead a busy life, Kevin. Your ability to balancework/preaching/life convicts.Blessings--- Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Working - 40
That is what I am not sure about, in what way are you "talking about" it?
Can you give concrete examples.
I have a hard time seeing how anyone could defend, what I see as so Idolatrous a church.
I do not see God in it at all, not anymore than the Jews who turned from God to Idols, it was ICHABOD
I have had many RCC friends Relatives. I am quite familiar with the RCC Church. My grandparents are in Hell because they believed the doctrines of devils pushed in that church.
My Mother in Law is saved in spite of the RCC, then again she does not believe any of the "official doctrine"
What does
As to paragraph #1, why wouldn't it apply equally to the DMC (David Miller
Church). Ahhh Lance, you overstate the case, do you not? Well, thanks for
asking but, no I do not! It's that 'little leaven' thingy.
As to paragraph #2, surprise me by telling me that you could one day be head
of the DMC
Uh, yes Lance, that is what I meant when I wrote:
When you truly love God, you will love Him in
all you do. Another way of phrasing that is, when
you
truly love God, you will not sin in all you do.
That is how you walk in righteousness. My father and I
are not saying to live for
myth (DavidM is
not a theologian else ppllike Iz would say they haveno clue
what he's saying; that DS is a theologian at best understates
hercommunication skills)
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:57:44 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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she is..
asuperior 'theologian'.
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