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2006-01-06 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/5/2006 9:52:26 PM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Origin

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2006-01-06 Thread Lance Muir
Pray TO? Pray THROUGH? IMO, there is a distinction. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 06, 2006 08:48 Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From

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2006-01-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Pray through whom? There is only ONE mediator between God and man. Yet the rcc sanctions the rosary where ppl chant over and over and over "Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death" So what is THAT all about? On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:59:39 -0500 "Lance Muir"

Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Pray through whom? There is only ONE mediator between God and man. Yet the rcc sanctions the rosary where ppl chant over and over and over "Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death" So what is THAT

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2006-01-06 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/6/2006 8:59:34 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Pray TO? Pray THROUGH? IMO, there is a distinction. cd: No, they are the same as the only way to the father is through Jesus Christ-He

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2006-01-06 Thread Lance Muir
I did in another post. No point in repeating. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 06, 2006 09:24 Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From: Lance

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2006-01-05 Thread knpraise
- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/22/2005 7:03:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From: Lance

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2006-01-05 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk Sent: 1/5/2006 10:13:21 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Do Catholics think of these statues as "idols.?" Are they not expressions of their faith in God and His Christ? None of

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2006-01-05 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk Sent: 1/5/2006 10:13:21 AM Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Do Catholics think of these statues

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2005-12-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Yes, praise God. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:13 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Are you quite sure that YOU are born again, Iz? - Original

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2005-12-22 Thread Lance Muir
Are you quite sure that YOU are born again, Iz? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 21, 2005 19:44 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Cross The RCC is the great whore of Revelations. I do not serve the god

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2005-12-21 Thread Lance Muir
In this case, at least, IT DOES!! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 18:30 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From: Lance Muir

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2005-12-21 Thread Lance Muir
If you wish only to be SILLY then, leave the topic alone, Dean.! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 18:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From

[TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-21 Thread Judy Taylor
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/16/2005 4:08:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mount

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2005-12-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/20/2005 10:13:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross My Jesus, Dean, IS NOT DEFINED by the traditons of men. Was Jesus born of a virgin. Was He , at the same time, the Son of God

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2005-12-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/21/2005 7:14:41 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross If you wish only to be SILLY then, leave the topic alone, Dean.! cd: I sense a lot of negative hostilities coming from you Lance -be nice

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2005-12-21 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/20/2005 10:13:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross My Jesus, Dean, IS NOT DEFINED

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2005-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
The RCC is the great whore of Revelations. I do not serve the god of the RCC. Iz Revelation 17 1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon

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2005-12-21 Thread Blainerb473
/2005 4:36:13 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 5:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:42 P.M. Mountain

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2005-12-21 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: Hmm, well, at least you are able to spell out why the RCC Jesus is the same as the Evangelical Jesus. Also, asI said in another post, if Dean knew the Biblical Jesus as well as he purports to, he would recognize him in the BoM and the DC. He is the same as you have indicated

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2005-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 5:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: discerning the difference . . . cd: And the sad part is you

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2005-12-20 Thread Lance Muir
Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 06:31 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 5:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

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2005-12-20 Thread knpraise
asons. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 5:18:02 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/16/2005 8:59:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMA

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2005-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/20/2005 6:48:08 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Amen Dean! UNTIL YOUR RCC COMMENTS! IMO you should stay with what y'all understand. Further, IMO, y'all should press the MC on the very central

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2005-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/20/2005 7:49:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross The Christ of the RCC is no different from the Christ I serve. That RCC theology is too full of tradition and works, we would

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2005-12-20 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/20/2005 7:49:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross The Christ of the RCC is no different from the Chri

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2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes I was going by the part I observed on the open list - but apparentlythere was more going onoffline which I was not aware of until yesterday.. but it sounds like they are working things out. judyt On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:55:20 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 12/17/2005

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2005-12-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 8:46:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Have you dealt with the puzzle correctly? I want to say "yes" except that I do not understand "c c". Perhaps

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2005-12-18 Thread knpraise
6:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Have you dealt with the puzzle correctly? I want to say "yes" except that I do not understand "c c". Perhaps you missed the point. cd: I has assumed when you that you were using a type of code-as not to offend the moderator- with you wor

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2005-12-18 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/18/2005 12:01:12 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Isolate the code symbols -- "jwill tnot refer kto them by dname " cd: jt-kd.I see only kone dproblem. -

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2005-12-18 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:18:03 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blaine, DaveH kicked himself off. The Moderator told him that it was his last warning - that's all... because they kept ignoring him and went on with a thread he told them to take offline.

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2005-12-18 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:26:31 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IFO have thought of DaveH as one of the more discrimitating contributors to TT.Should he be invited back with an accompanying apology and full complicity? I enjoy his insights, altho lately

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2005-12-18 Thread Blainerb473
I think they know who they are, too, but that doesn't seem to faze them. Blainerb In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:53:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is certainly not nearly as disruptive as at least two others on this forum. I jwill tnot refer kto them by

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2005-12-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Blaine, DaveH kicked himself off. The Moderator told him that it was his last warning - that's all... because they kept ignoring him and went on with a thread he told them to take offline. Who told you he was kicked off?? judyt On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:10:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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2005-12-17 Thread Lance Muir
17, 2005 16:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross How come you kicked DaveH off? What he was saying was true. (See red below)Am I going next? Blainerb That is unexcusable behavior in my opinion. ??? unexcusable behavior..what's that mean? Perhaps you should

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2005-12-17 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: Yeah, Kevin, I repeat Dave's question--will Jesus be wearing a chain around his neck with a cross dangling on it when he comes? I always understood he would be dressed in red, symbol of the blood he spilt in the Garden of Gethsemene. And, if he is not wearing his cross, what

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2005-12-17 Thread knpraise
f the more discrimitating contributors to TT.Should he be invited back with an accompanying apology and full complicity? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 17, 2005 16:10 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross How come

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2005-12-17 Thread Blainerb473
. He may have said that, but he also testified of the reality of Jesus Christ. Would you count that as being uninspired? Blainerb - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/16/2005 4:08:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

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2005-12-17 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 4:52:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross He is certainly not nearly as disruptive as at least two others on this forum. I jwill tnot refer kto them by dname

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2005-12-17 Thread knpraise
o: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/17/2005 4:52:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross He is certainly not nearly as disruptive as at least two others on this forum. I jwill tnot refer kto them by dname but they probably know who they are? jd cd: Tell me about

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2005-12-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 8:39:48 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still hav

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2005-12-16 Thread Judy Taylor
I was reading in Romans 12, the last phrase of verse ten says "honor one another, preferring one another" The world teaches the exact opposite, but if we follow this guideline, we willhavepeace and calm. Paul also writes about the same thing in Phillipians 2:3 So thanks Dean for your

Re: ***Moderator Comment** Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-16 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: There are none so blind as he who will not see. Ad libbing, flapping the gums, rationalizing the truth, gainsaying, etc., sets up a snow storm intended to do but one thing--deceive.Whenthat fails, one resorts to being unreasonable--it always comes down to stubborn, obstinate

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2005-12-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
be careful to properly attribute comments to the original authors. Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: ***Moderator Comment** Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:50:03 EST Blainerb: There are none so blind as he

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2005-12-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/16/2005 12:26:25 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blaine, please don't stir up the pot. You contribute nothing with your comments. Also, you say below, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:", but you have not included anything I wrote! You must have

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-16 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: It is common knowledge that the morning star is Venus. Thus it is an obvious symbol of Jesus Christ, as it represents the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord as it alternates between shining as the evening star and the morning star. As either, it is

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-16 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: The why don't Mormons live by Jesus's words instead of Smith's words. Blainerb: . Smith lived and died for his testimony of Jesus Christ, whom he saw and spoke with on several occasions.

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2005-12-16 Thread Blainerb473
I looked, but did not see anything denigrating or mocking Christians in either site, Dean? Could you quote what you are getting at? Blainerb In a message dated 12/14/2005 4:59:53 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.hillcumorah.org/Pageant/

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2005-12-16 Thread Blainerb473
Neither is the Devil lazy--being full of "works" does not always tell us much. :) Blainerb In a message dated 12/16/2005 5:26:39 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:49:11 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Kevin is not a

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/16/2005 4:13:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross I looked, but did not see anything denigrating or mocking Christians in either site, Dean? Could you quote what you are getting at? Blainerb cd:Again I don't

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2005-12-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/16/2005 4:08:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/14/2005 5:00:06 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: The why don't Mormons live by Jesus's words instead of Smith's

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/16/2005 6:25:23 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Neither is the Devil lazy--being full of "works" does not always tell us much. :) Blainerb cd: The Devil don't preach Jesus Christ as the o

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2005-12-15 Thread Lance Muir
: [TruthTalk] Cross Or should one have Joy that God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach us truth and to die on the cross for our salvation . . . Huh? -Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

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2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Judy Taylor; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/14/2005 8:28:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross mental gymnastics will get you nowhere, Judy. The fact

RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/13/2005 8:53:21 PM Subject: RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Isn’t it interesting that the mormon viewpoint about the Cross is the same as the JWitnesses? They also think of it as an ugly symbol. iz cd

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2005-12-15 Thread Taylor
Dean Moore wrote: cd: Case and point without the cross there could be no savior-hence no salvation and as keeping the law was a failure all were headed to hell-no way to pay for redemption. Yes, our sins added to his suffering-so let us not sin any more as to

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 5:43:32 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross HUH?? INDEED!! 'God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach..and die on the cross'? WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS STATEMENT? cd

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2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
I do not know if you served your country or not ,Dave, but if you did, one of the first items of information recorded about you was your "religeous preference" . It is on file. It may even be noted in some way on your dog tags, I am not sure. It's been a long time. This I do know. You get the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
:* Monday, December 12, 2005 10:11 PM *To:* TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org *Subject:* Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/12/2005 7:42:12 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the best songs I ever heard was titled, "He Loved Me with a Cross". iz One of the weirdes

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:15:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:13:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Except it is not Biblical. (Not that you would care.) iz

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2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Dean Moore wrote: You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of omission? Is following Christ only about correcting others? How about giving a drink to a thirsty man? How about passing by the wounded on the road to Damascus? How about the guy broke down alongside the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross EXACTLY what he finds weird.DAVEH: WWJD. Have you ever wondered if Jesus feels like...I will cling to the old rugged cross.again

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2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 7:52:09 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Dean Moore wrote: cd: Case and point without the cross there could be no savior-hence no salvation and as keeping the law was a failure all were

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 8:06:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross "Take up your star daily, and follow me". cd: LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, JW's have their own reasons, I suppose--probably

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
cd: I have underlined some of my words that you need to reread as you are actually agreeing with what I wrote. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 8:33:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Dean Moore wrote: You have got

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
scripture. Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:24:13 EST As I said to Iz, the cross is deeply embedded in the Christian psyche. It is in mine as well. But since you guys have

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
God is against IDOLATRY of any kind Who are these mysterious people who IDOLize the cross?Why did it take all these years for you to be forthright with your FEELINGS about the cross?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All these years on TT and we are just now learning how you really

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Cc: Judy Taylor; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/14/2005 8:28:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Crossmental gymnastics will get you nowhere, Judy. The fact is, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A THOUSAND PEOPLE standing there. Some of them wanted to stone the woman -- but others, I

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Take up your star daily, and follow me.Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Take up your star daily, and follow me".[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, JW's have their own reasons, I suppose--probably different from ours. Most JW's despise Mormons, just as they despise all non-JW

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of omission? Is following Christ only about correcting others? How about giving a drink to a thirsty man?AND how do you do such?Ifind that most that speak like this are DOing nothing of consequence. They love in "WORD" but never in DEED! It

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] CrossEXACTLY what he finds weird.DAVEH: WWJD. Have you ever wondered if Jesus feels like...I will cling to the old rugged cross.again.ordo you think he wants to be reminded of...

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 8:33:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Dean Moore wrote: You have got to be joking, Dean! There is no sin of omission

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
HIS STATEMENT? - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 14, 2005 19:32 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Or should one have Joy that God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach us truth and to die on the cross for our salvation . .

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2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
And what does yourlittle chuck and jive have to do with Terry's remarks to Dean? Not one single thing. Few on this site have a clue as to "ad hom." but your comments below are "ad hom." By definition, ad hom is any statement that does not go directly to thediscussion or remarks at hand. Another

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
: - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross EXACTLY what he finds weird.DAVEH: WWJD. Have you ever wondered if Jesus feels like...I will cling to the old rugged cross

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 1:45:26 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross My apology, Dean. I was trying to read everything before going to work and got to reading too fast to understand what I was reading.Terry cd: I

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Kevin Deegan Sent: 12/15/2005 1:57:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Funny -- I thought this came from a Dean post. So he and JS kinda think alike at this point !!! Interesting. jd

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
To tell you these things would be bragging, Kev. What I am doing is known by the One who needs to know. He does it through me. Remember the instructions? Don't let your right hand know what the other is doing. Those who brag about their deeds already have their rewards. You might think about

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
tongue in cheek - for sure. -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Kevin Deegan Sent: 12/15/2005 1:57:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthT

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/15/2005 2:19:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross : - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/14/2005 2:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
ail.innglory.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/14/2005 8:28:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross mental gymnastics will get you nowhere, Judy. The fact is, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A THOUSAND PEOPLE standing there. Some of them wanted to stone the woman -- but others, I am sure , were not going to par

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Dean Moore Sent: 12/15/2005 2:53:49 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Not sure why you are talking about the sin of omission.Christ obviously believed that personal sin was a part

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
A rather simple task is to read the post instead of going off half cocked[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:And what does yourlittle chuck and jive have to do with Terry's remarks to Dean? Not one single thing. Few on this site have a clue as to "ad hom." but your comments below are "ad hom." By

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is always Bragging not False Piety? To TESTIFY how you are giving Drink to a thirsty man is BRAGGING? You brought up the subject, I thought you were gonna bless us with some Testimony! Doesn't the bragging part come from ones ATTITUDE? Bragging is not in the essence of the act of compassion

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
OTECTED] - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Judy Taylor; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/14/2005 8:28:11 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Crossmental gymnastics will get you nowhere, Judy. T

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
You have your reward, Kevin. I am still working on mine. Draw any conclusion from this that suits you. It makes little difference what you think. Kevin Deegan wrote: It is always Bragging not False Piety? To TESTIFY how you are giving Drink to a thirsty man is BRAGGING? You brought up

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
I read your post a couple of times. My comments appear to be appropriate. -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] A rather simple task is to read the post instead of going off half cocked[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what does yourlittle chuck and

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
NAW I am just sick of people that flap their gums. When it comes down to it they are all about words NOT DEEDS!It is a False Piety to saythat another should do such such when one doesNOTHING.God's Work as you put it is NOT LIP SERVICE They profess that they know God; but in works they

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
I am really sick of real stupid people who ASSUME to have facts they do not have. I believe the Bible refers to them as gossips. Terry Kevin Deegan wrote: NAW I am just sick of people that flap their gums. When it comes down to it they are all about words NOT DEEDS! It is a False

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Don't get so emotional.Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am really sick of real stupid people who ASSUME to have facts they do not have. I believe the Bible refers to them as gossips.TerryKevin Deegan wrote: NAW I am just sick of people that flap their gums. When it comes down to it

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Maybe you meantalebearer as the word gossip does not appearGossip n One who runs from house to house, tattling and telling news; an idle tattler.TA'LEBEARER, n. [tale and bear.] A person who officiously tells tales; one who impertinently communicates intelligence or anecdotes, and makes

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread knpraise
You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still have that one tooth. I suspect that Terry is a full-time Christian. I met your challenge and what did we get for that -- yet another challenge of someone else. You are a lazy

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Offi'cious is a new word for me, but I like it. It does the job, maybe even better than gossip. Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you meantalebearer as the word gossip does not appear Gossip n One who runs from house to house, tattling and telling news; an idle tattler. TA'LEBEARER, n.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Well TerryI am not going to stoop to using the words real stupid. Why have you become so emotional?Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Offi'cious is a new word for me, but I like it. It does the job, maybe even better than gossip.Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you meantalebearer as the word

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
if you still have that one tooth."Discussions" with you always devolve into questions of whether your gut hangs below your belt still. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You have turned the "flapping of the gums" into a vocation, Kevin. This is not completely true, however, if you still have that

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2005-12-15 Thread Charles Perry Locke
John and Kevin, stop the name calling. Go private if you wish to continue. From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:05:32 -0800 (PST) if you still have that one tooth

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: Well TerryI am not going to stoop to using the words real stupid. That is good, Kevin. You should only use that word when it is appropriate. Why have you become so emotional? You might be imagining things.again. I was not aware that I had become at all

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-14 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/13/2005 6:00:50 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross Hmmm, JD is right, denigrating the symbols of another's religious beliefs was wrong. I apologize--apparently I offended JD, although I did so unthinkingly

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
LOLhave you quit beating your wife?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You OFFEND Jesus ChristDAVEH: Do you suppose the same could be said of those idolizing crosses?Kevin Deegan wrote: You OFFEND Jesus ChristI almost thought you were serious in your Apology tillNow, if I

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2005 10:11 PM *To:* TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org *Subject:* Re: [TruthTalk] Cross In a message dated 12/12/2005 7:42:12 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the best songs I ever heard was titled, "He Loved Me with a Cross". iz O

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