On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:34:55 +0100, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.
And curling. :o)
Next version of Opera will have bittorrent built in, but that only helps
the five people other than me who use Opera.
- Andreas
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:12:30 +0100, André Sala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But the problem, it seems, with BITS is that it makes a substantial
number of webserver requests. If you look at your server log you
might think that BITS is hammering your bandwidth because of the high
number of
FireAnt has BitTorrent baked into the Windows version.
I actually think we've rather quietly developed one of the best
interfaces for BitTorrent yet.
Here's why... when you download a video via BitTorrent, it downloads
just like any other file. No special knowledge required. Then once its
finished
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:34:55 +0100, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.
And curling. :o)
Next version of Opera will have bittorrent built
Last time I looked, the Participatory Culture software required you to install something on your host server which my then host was not keen on. Anyone know whether DreamHost would go for it?-- best regards,
Deirdré Straughanwww.beginningwithi.com (personal)www.tvblob.com (work)
Hmm. I have no shortage at the moment - got far more than I can use from DreamHost - but that might be interesting someday. I guess I could re-sell some of my own BW...On 2/18/06,
davecircumnavigator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since videobloggers have high bandwidth requirements and ISPs
I care! I care!
And I've tried. I've added the picture into the feed. Different pictures.
Different logos.
Different sizes. No go. i have absolutely no idea what I'm doing wrong.
Something,
obviously...but what could it be?
Bekah
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and that's assuming that at least three of the six of you are are
watching the same content!
=)
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:34:55 +0100, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades.
And
I've been thinking about my videoblog watching habits...
I almost exclusively watch on the video ipod now. I fill it up at
mefeedia. My preferred watching places are:
1) my television
2) the laundrymat
I watch on the TV (using the ipod cable) in the morning, on saturdays
and such.. while working
one issue that arises: how do you track your stats?
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
Hello,
On 2/17/06, davecircumnavigator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Since
videobloggers have high bandwidth requirements and ISPs give
discounts for planned large bandwidth consumption, would anyone be
what kinds of images? png? jpeg? gif?
missbhavens1969 wrote:
I care! I care!
And I've tried. I've added the picture into the feed. Different pictures. Different logos.
Different sizes. No go. i have absolutely no idea what I'm doing wrong. Something,
obviously...but what could it be?
Can stats be tracked by which resources are accessed?
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
one issue that arises: how do you track your stats?
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
Hello,
On 2/17/06, *davecircumnavigator* [EMAIL
Then tell us what are you looking for?
http://vlogmatic.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bleedxapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
anyone know of a nice videoblogging plugin for wordpress. iv tryed
media-insert but it didnt really do what i was looking for.
anyone?
-ba
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some stats, but not all. it depends on the network. he asked about
arbitrary p2p system like gnutella, etc
in general, one would have no idea who had downloaded what
Enric wrote:
Can stats be tracked by which resources are accessed?
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
Since videobloggers have high bandwidth requirements and ISPs give
discounts for planned large bandwidth consumption, would anyone be
interested in a server cooperative where we negotiate as a group for
server space and bandwidth? Has this been tried on this group? If
every member of this
How are arbitrary p2p system like gnutella, etc. tracked now on a server?
If each person had a unique domain or subdomain would it be easier to
track stastics for their content?
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some stats, but not all. it
generally speaking, there are no 'servers' on arbitrary p2p systems or
another way to look at it: they are all servers! :)
some hybrids do use directory servers like a DNS to establish inital
connections, but then all communications are between peers and so there
are no stats in general
If you use FeedBurner:
- Log in to your feedburner account
- Click on the feed you want to deal with
- Click the Optimize tab
- Click the Feed Image Burner link on the bottom left
- Change image source to specify custom image URL
- Enter the image URL (image should be no bigger than 144px tall or
It doesn't sound like renting a server as a group would be any
different in stats from a managed web host account? In both cases it
looks like a server is being shared by multiple users and the stats
seem to be connected to domains and resources.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
I have used iMovie ( iLife '05 version) in the past to piece together clips
shot in video mode
from my sony cybershot. I uploaded the vids into iPhoto and they play fine with
all the
background noises and such. But when I tried to piece the 4 or 5 clips together
in iMovie it
wasnt importing
On 2/18/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It doesn't sound like renting a server as a group would be any
different in stats from a managed web host account? In both cases it
looks like a server is being shared by multiple users and the stats
seem to be connected to domains and
I have a bunch of large files in a directory on my web server, and want them in a different directory on the same web serverIs there a way to move them without physically copying them to the new folder? Like the Cut Paste function in Windows?
Sorry I'm off topic, but Google wasn't helping.
Depending on your FTP client, you should be able to highlight them all
and select move.
If you are using a commands, then, rename [filename]
[new/path/to/filename]. Example: rename test.html mydir/test.html
(where mydir is a sub-directory of the directory test.html is
located in)
David
The Sony Cybershots use mpeg1 video which has muxed audio and video. You need to demux it before you import it to iMovie. Download mpegstreamclip - it's free and will do this.BTW, has anyone found a similar program for PC? I haven't yet.
-VerdiOn 2/18/06, blitzjaeger2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
here is a message i sent to this group last summer with same ideasull-- Forwarded message --From: Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Jul 11, 2005 12:25 AMSubject: A Thought: A Collective Vlog Host FundTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
The Internet Archive is giving us
Might not hurt to get the podcasters involved with this one as well,
unless a few cooperatives are in order, but there is power in numbers
indeed.
But as a future podcaster and possibly videoblogger, it's definitely a
great idea.
Mike
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Hello Josh
On 2/18/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
- Enter the image URL (image should be no bigger than 144px tall or wide)
Isn't the max size of an RSS Image 144x400 (and not 144x144 as you
suggested)? Or is there some application out there that only handle a
max of
Well, desperate situations call for desperate measures and this is one of those instances.Michael Tyas and Josh Leo put me up to this and since I'm so desperate, I'm willing to do this.As
you all know, vlogging is as essential as breathing and right now, I
have no camera since my current one
Hello Josh,
On 2/18/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FireAnt has BitTorrent baked into the Windows version.
I actually think we've rather quietly developed one of the best
interfaces for BitTorrent yet.
Here's why... when you download a video via BitTorrent, it downloads
just like
Perhaps there is a way to build off of existing infrastructures? (e.g.
Blip, Ourmedia). They could provide operational support and premium
bandwidth/loads, and we would be supporting existing initiatives. I
can't speak for either company, but I think it would be cool if we
could do it that
On 2/18/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps there is a way to build off of existing infrastructures? (e.g.
Blip, Ourmedia). They could provide operational support and premium
bandwidth/loads, and we would be supporting existing initiatives. I
can't speak for either company, but I
Hello Josh,
Do you know if iTunes will use the RSS image if the itunes:image
is left out?
According to this...
http://www.reallysimplesyndication.com/2005/06/28#a682
iTunes will use things like the RSS category if you don't use
itunes:category.
(And yeah, I agree, iTunes RSS is one of the
It says if the itunes:image tag isn't present, it will use the RSS
image tag... can anyone say redundant?
-Josh
On 2/18/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Josh,
Do you know if iTunes will use the RSS image if the itunes:image
is left out?
According to this...
On 2/18/06, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depending on your FTP client, you should be able to highlight them all
and select move.
If you are using a commands, then, rename [filename]
[new/path/to/filename]. Example: rename test.html mydir/test.html
(where mydir is a sub-directory
can some one link me to todays flash meeting
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:49:00 +0100, Randy Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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can some one link me to todays flash meeting
URL: http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=370e86-3022
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:48:32 +0100, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
this is kind of what i was thinking, but there are hundreds of files that
need to be moved.
i.e.
rename media/videodirectory media/newvideodirectory
?
I just don't wanna try it and f something up royally
That
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:23:09 +0100, Peter Van Dijck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking about my videoblog watching habits...
I almost exclusively watch on the video ipod now. I fill it up at
mefeedia. My preferred watching places are:
1) my television
2) the laundrymat
I watch
On 2/18/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking about my videoblog watching habits...I almost exclusively watch on the video ipod now. I fill it up atmefeedia. My preferred watching places are:1) my television2) the laundrymat
I watch on the TV (using the ipod cable) in
hi all. lurker here...
i have been reading this thread with interest.
could not a group of like minded vloggers get a host with lots of
bandwidth that they each pay into and name a domain. then, the main
domain could be used to list the contributing videoblogs and maybe a
blurb about them (how
Just as a note, the FireAnt directory prefers iTunes images because of
the size limitations of standard RSS images. We need larger images, and
whether you like the iTunes spec or not, it's the only thing that
provides large images that can be scaled down instead of being scaled
up.
ClintOn
People will use it because it's easy. This is the Microsoft
advantage (or trap, depending on how you look at it). Saying
RSS-enclosure-download() is a lot simpler than writing a
library that does the downloading for you :).
ClintOn 2/17/06, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not interested in becoming part of some consortium of vloggers.
All I am interested in is a simple solution of a dedicated server
where the bandwidth is reserved strictly for the use of hosting videos
off of. No home page. No listings. Just a file server is all I want.
Blip and Ourmedia
To second your concerns, I would add that Dreamhost or any of a
thousand other hosting companies already do a good job of sharing
servers professionally. I don't see any savings for anyone in
trying to do this themselves as opposed to using a cheaper hosting
provider. Secondly, Dreamhost offers
The thing is, many podcast/vidoeblog feeds rushed to adopt iTunes spec. It is more common to see itunes:image than it is to see the standard RSS image tags. So if its in the feed, we'll use it. No need for religious wars. I just find it annoying that we now have to support so many variations of
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:50:52 +0100, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i dont understand about the size stuff
i've seen some huge rss channel images come through.
can you explain?
Some people don't read specs.
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you could include a class to detect image dimensions and if smaller than what your max pref is for FA, no scaling, else, scale down accordingly. On 2/18/06,
Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just as a note, the FireAnt directory prefers iTunes images because of
the size limitations of
religious war... ha.the difference is, i find it annoying AND dont feel like adapting to illogical implementations.maybe feedburner etc should just merge the two... resolve it at the source any service or app that generates RSS might as well merge any redundancies upon generating the feeds.
same for AJAX, but both are certainly gaining traction
i guess the question revolves around your parenthetical remark
many people seem to think it's necessary to hit servers with smaller,
but great numbered requests these days
it's that "experience" thing i think
;)
Andreas Haugstrup
Except that with BITS the user experience doesn't change.
- Andreas
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:34:00 +0100, Markus Sandy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
same for AJAX, but both are certainly gaining traction
i guess the question revolves around your parenthetical remark
many people seem to think
--Done done and done. It's 135x126, linked and titled and ready to go. Also
changed my
description, which for the first time on record, DID change when I activated it
in both
iTunes and FireAnt. Oddly, the category didn't change a long with it when
changed in the
feed (Public Radio?). But
I've completed the vlogs from the February 8th IBDNetwork's Under the
Radar: Video Blogs Killed the TV Star event:
http://www.cirne.com/wpTA/?s=Video%20Blogs%20Killed%20the%20TV%20Starsubmit=Search
http://tinyurl.com/a58v9
;),
Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL
Changes in the FireAnt directory may not take effect immediately... it
will take effect the next time our server grabs your RSS feed, which
is roughly once an hour.
We are working on implementing a Ping mechanism so you can notify our
server when you make a change to your RSS feed.
-Josh
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss#ltimagegtSubelementOfLtchannelgt
Maximum value for width is 144, default value is 88.
Maximum value for height is 400, default value is 31.
This means that people publishing images under the RSS maximum width is
144 pixels. This isn't nearly large
Cool. Thanks for the help!
I'll keep my eyes peeled.
Bekah
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Changes in the FireAnt directory may not take effect immediately... it
will take effect the next time our server grabs your RSS feed, which
is roughly
ah. i see. you are just looking to save money on server costs and not
a cooperative, creative venture. my mistake.
quite right. blip and ourmedia host video and dreamhost offers good
hosting deals (i use them myself and think they're great!). guess i
saw the words cooperative and group and did a
On 2/18/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How much storage for each person?
how much bandwdith?
how would stats work?If you got a Dreamhost dedicated server for $150 monthly + $150 setup:-30 GB storage total-4 TB data transfer -Stats are given for each separate domain, no problem
If you find any of this of interest, please check out the site
(http://newmediacollective.org).
Melanie
this looks awesome!
jay
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hi mike,
good idea! that's just the kind of community endeavor i was thinking
of - something concentrated and experimental. nice.
anne
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for what its worth, i have this list of things i want to do and
offer...
Peter,
Here's one way to get around this:
Create a smart playlist in iTunes and name it New Vodcast or whatever
you like. Add a rule for Play Count to equel zero. Also add
a rule that Podcast must be true. Once you've watched a video all
the way through, it will get removed from the list.
Ah, that explains why my GETV stats are blown out of the water. I get
about 1000 MS BITS requests for every site. Also, browser type 'WXHttp'
reports a high number as well, something like 200 for every site.
Seems like this would be an easy fix on the blip.tv backend to account for these
I'm all web, baby.Bloglines is my championThen del.icio.usTo be honest though, I find a lot of great videos from fellow editors on evilvlog, which I don't subscribe to, but am constantly posting to and therefore visiting.
I wish there were more of these collaborative vlogs out there, with
On 2/18/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A way to show my roommates Human-Dog on our TV, by just changing the channel.
With LINKS back to the site. Big omission. That was the best part of it!
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On 2/18/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/18/06, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A way to show my roommates Human-Dog on our TV, by just changing the channel.
With LINKS back to the site. Big omission. That was the best part of it!Why do I feel so stupid when I see an
A question I'd be asking, whoever you decide to buy server space from,
is what kind of speed difference you'll see among all the different
options. see, this is pretty key, no?i mean, there are 3 issues. storage space, monthly bandwidth allotment and SPEED! The latter is actually the main issue
First off...*I* never asked a question. Learn reading skills.
Second. My conversations take place in person where I can see a
persons eyes. I trust about 1% of what I read online.
Last. I really dont care about being part of some vlog collective. The
original concept was for some people to group
yeah, i'm with you (as a user). all web but def ready for the bloggy TV platforms too. TVtonic looks great. havent tried it though.. it just microsoft compat, right? on a related note, i got this in my inbox today...
http://www.worldsofttv.com/documents/27.htmli just scanned it, dont know what
I'd be happy to dance. There are currently thousands of hosting
options from thousands of providers who make it their business to
maximize the amount of people you can fit onto one server. Those
people are not the people on this list. I suggest you check them
out.
Vlog hosting needs two
you dont talk about data pipes. can you comment on that?and... Combining a group of
unprofitable users is unprofitable, no matter how you do the
math.i dont understand how this comment relates to the discussion. granted, i'ts the weekend so i'll take some blame ;-) but... what?On 2/19/06,
I agree and I am one of those that is willing to spend the money for a
dedicated host shared with other vloggers that will host our content.
The point of it making money or being self-sustaining is not my goal.
I never said I wanted a free server. Blip already gives me that.
The simple fact is
ah, clint
quite obviously there is a third option: people who want it free, but
without the trade off of poor availability/performance/etc
the reason why this is needed so much is not necessarily because people
are cheap, but because they want to see it work reliably the first time
when
You are not going to be able to rent a server from
anyone, delve it up between a bunch of high-bandwidth users and make it
economically feasible.mathmatically, this depends, right?. first, you are assuming every vlogger would be popular to the point of usining up much of the 1-3TB. in
(honestly, if you can't afford $120/yr,
you can't afford the camera and the computer to vlog either,
probably).maybe the costs of hardware, software etc are WHY people cant or dont want to spend the hosting dollars. especially if just a little hobby. you win for this weeks Most Amercian Comment
*chuckle*
David
http://www.taoofdavid.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(honestly, if you can't afford $120/yr, you can't afford the
camera and
the computer to vlog either, probably).
maybe the costs of hardware, software etc are WHY
My interest would be, if viable, to test out applications like FFMPEG
(transcoding) running on the server. Loading applications would not
be available on a managed server and would cost more for a dedicated
server only for myself.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy
I want Porsche looks and performance, with the ease of maintenance of a
Japanese automobile and the price of a Geo Metro, think that will work
out for me? :)
Honestly, I don't have much patience for people who want to have
hobbies but they can't afford them. Hobbies are expensive.
Golf is a
i was going to mention ffmpeg and other interesting software that shared hosts will never let you use. i've asked 6 host services if they would install ffmpeg and all said no can do. so, if a group has some developer/vlogger tpyes fun things can happen :)
On 2/19/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alright, then consider this
if free and reliable hosting were the norm, just think of how much
better the paid services would have to be
Clint Sharp wrote:
I want Porsche looks and performance, with the ease of
maintenance of a
Japanese automobile and the price of a Geo Metro, think that
Honestly, I don't have much patience for people who want to have
hobbies but they can't afford them.screw the under-privileged people around the world who we once, and still on occasion, evangelized to and about vlogging could liberate the world wants to hear and see your stories.
I feel like this has become a bi-polar conversation.
You keep going on about free this and free that. Where has anyone in
this thread said that they wanted a free hosting solution from a
server cooperative?
Serious. Are you having a conversation with someone here that isnt
making posts? I really
are you saying that Clint is dancing, but stepping on yer toes? ;-)might need to spin him out. all in good fun. love ya clint.On 2/19/06, David Howell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I feel like this has become a bi-polar conversation.
You keep going on about free this and free that. Where has anyone
Every vlogger is more popular than 90% of businesses and regular users
hosting websites. Even the most image intensive website would
really have to be visited a lot of times to equal the average video
size. Most of my videos were at least 15 megabytes, which a lot
of websites don't use in a
People around the world would be served much better by abundant food,
clean water and cheap housing. That aside, hosting is not an
issue for people who can afford the hardware and software to actually
create the videos. If you want to make vlogging affordable for
people, cheaper computers and
I think it might be a little hard to vlog if one didnt have the means
with which to distribute the videos.
I suppose they could burn the videos onto DVD's and mail them out to
random people though?
David
http://www.taoofdavid.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL
whats the data pipe at dreamhost like? if i can get 300-400mb/sec data rate on a dedicated hosting plan, what can i get from a $10 per month dreamhost plan? this is the performance issue... the BIG issue in my opinion. and the primary issue behind the interest in this idea i think.
does
cut and dry black and white. wrong. but i'll let it go.On 2/19/06, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People around the world would be served much better by abundant food,
clean water and cheap housing. That aside, hosting is not an
issue for people who can afford the hardware and software
You know...all we need is a repository that hold files.
All I am looking for is a server that hosts my media that I can ftp my
file to and link to from my site.
Folders for the users. Figure out your own way to determine how many
times the files are accessed.
Simplicity does actually work.
Your problem is twofold. One is throughput as you're
saying. The second and harder problem is montly transfer
limitations. I've spent quite a while researching hosting
providers, and nobody offers more than 4 terabytes transfer for
$200/mo, and about half that for $100/mo. It doesn't take long
totally. crApple!thats why i stopped myself from modifying my rss parser to grab it... dont want to encourage people not to use the true RSS channel spec.sullOn 2/18/06,
Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It says if the itunes:image tag isn't present, it will use the RSSimage tag... can
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