Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose VoiceOver when I answer a call with my headset

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Paul Richard McGann
I can see you but you can't see me. -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Ugh, tat bts. I do a lot of email on the iPhone, and being able to answer my

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Rajmund
Hello, For me, its even more than a good 30 seconds. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:26 am Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Well maybe it's because I'm using a iPhone 4S

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
t; -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > For me, I didn't find any

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 10:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hi Do these podcasts also talk about software for say the Apple TV? OS X? Watch OS? Don't worry if you don'

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
store and setting up as a new phone would do. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Miller
ghard >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Rajmund >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread englishrider91
new products go on sale like the fourth generation Apple TV >>> which will be available to preorder next Monday and it will start shipping >>> next Thursday. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >&g

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
vailable to preorder next Monday and it will start shipping next Thursday. Regards, Sieghard Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sub

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
nor annoyances seems a bit far fetched in my opinion. On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Rajmund wrote: Hello, Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm Subject

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Robin
bugs mentioned in this thread absolutely prevent anyone from using iOS, so let Apple fix them when they get to them on what is probably a gigantic list of things to fix, and not just for VoiceOver users. >>>> Saying you can’t recommend the iPhone any more because of a few

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Regina Alvarado
I am writing this with mBraille which since 9x has worked beautifully for me basically. Going to try and fix, but has anyone been having difficulty with Siri? The last 2 days I cannot talk to her. I have her turned on and so is hey siri, but no siri. As for bugs, which was what I wanted to co

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
Hello, Haven't used windows - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:37 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Finally someone who sees sense! It's always the negativity that sticks aro

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
t. Its not your responsibility to fix bugs, you can only do as much as reporting. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 8:29 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > So I have a question for the people t

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Miller
>>> definitely deteriorated, so it isn't true for everyone that IOS 8 was this >>>> unmitigated disaster and IOS 9 has solved all of those issues. >>>> >>>> On 10/23/2015 06:48 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>&

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Apple’s accessibility team is >>>> not just focusing on VoiceOver, they’re focusing on an entire set of >>>> features, covering different disabilities. Furthermore, they’ve now got 4 >>>> operating systems to focus on, rather than 2. >>>> None of the

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
gt;> None of the bugs mentioned in this thread absolutely prevent anyone from >>> using iOS, so let Apple fix them when they get to them on what is probably >>> a gigantic list of things to fix, and not just for VoiceOver users. >>> Saying you can’t recommend the iPhone any more b

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread chris
t Monday and it will start shipping next Thursday. Regards, Sieghard Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rajmund Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Qui

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Paul Richard McGann
us. that is lag time. rich -Original Message- From: Scott Davert Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hi Chris Chaltain. You shouldn't need to restart VoiceOver each time you reply to an email, you shou

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Mário Navarro
iPhone any more because of a few minor annoyances seems a bit far fetched in my opinion. On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Rajmund wrote: Hello, Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Frida

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Scott Davert
> less, really. > > ----- Original Message - > From: M. Taylor > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:50 am > Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > >> >> >> Hello Rajmund, >> >> I don't think it

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
Hello, OK, I'm sure I can find it in my RSS reader, do I just type in the name? Or where shall I start looking for it? - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:44 pm Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > &g

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
2015 7:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hello Mark, Thanks much for checking into it for me; its appreciated. :) Although, the new release can't be that bad, there's only one new bug, and quite a few less, really. - Original Message

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 1:37 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > I can assure you, I'm not missing the point. The fact that Apple has a > lot of products is irrelevant. Appl

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
essage ----- From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I l

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Daniel Miller
my opinion. > On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Rajmund wrote: > > Hello, > Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair. > > - Original Message - > From: Christopher Chaltain > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm >

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Rajmund
Hello, Yes, there are some worrying bugs, let's be fair. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:30 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I co

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Christopher Chaltain
For me, I didn't find any bugs in IOS 8 I couldn't live with. I never regretted upgrading to IOS 8. IOS 9 is a different story. I lose VoiceOver when I answer a call with my headset on, and VoiceOver freezes when I reply to an email message. I'm still getting by with the work arounds I've uncov

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I guess you just said what i was trying to say earlier on only mor well spokenly than me. Thanks for that. /Krister > 22 okt. 2015 kl. 18:59 skrev Wayne Merritt : > > Everyone, > Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last > year. A number of them were directly rel

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Rajmund
15 2:50 am Subject: RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Hello Rajmund, > > I don't think it a breach of any protocol to let you know that, I just > checked the beta site and there has been no future beta posted, yet. > > Mark > > -Original Message- >

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
rsday, October 22, 2015 11:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing Hello, I know people can't speak about it, and I don't expect them to, either. But is the new IOS version in beta, already, or not quite yet? - Original Message - From: Woody An

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Connie Mohney
: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing To be a publick beta tester go to beta.apple.com and sign up for the program. When this is done, on the phone, go to beta.apple.com/profile and install the profile app. You will need to restart

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
for answering my questions. >> Connie >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Woody Anna Dresner >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >&g

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > hi, > > I've been beta testing iOS for a c

RE: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Connie Mohney
phone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing hi, I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't get to all the bugs right away, I have be

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Rajmund
Hello, I know people can't speak about it, and I don't expect them to, either. But is the new IOS version in beta, already, or not quite yet? - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:10 pm Subject: Re: A

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Rajmund
From: Wayne Merritt To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:59 pm Subject: Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing > > > Everyone, > Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last > year. A number of them were directly related to VoiceOver

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
hi, I've been beta testing iOS for a couple of years now, and while Apple doesn't get to all the bugs right away, I have been pleased with the degree of feedback I've gotten from their engineering staff and the bugs they have fixed that I've reported. I wish there was a longer time period betw

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Wayne Merritt
Everyone, Think for a moment how many bugs and issues there were in iOS 8.X last year. A number of them were directly related to VoiceOver and a number were in the mainstream. Apple got so much ill will from everyone across the board for putting out things that didn't work. Now, with iOS 9, I haven

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
Some folks will complain even if you hang them with a new rope. Others just waste balloon juice. Alan Sent from my iPad Air > On Oct 22, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Krister Ekstrom > wrote: > > Hi, > Very well said Mark, but what i ask myself is does it matter what we as beta > testers might say? F

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
I'v done some beta testing in my life time because I wanted to help out and because I wanted to play with the latest and greatest. Sometimes, that meant that I was going to run into trouble. Then I had to make my report and wait for instructions. Sometimes they wanted me to try this, that, or

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Of course you should report bugs. They won't be addressed if Apple doesn't know about them. They may still not be addressed, but that will be a conscious decision made by Apple and their developers. Your target isn't other users but the Apple developers. If you weren't going to do something bec

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Very well said Mark, but what i ask myself is does it matter what we as beta testers might say? For every release there has been and probably will be a tsunami of negativity and complaining and even if what has been complained about would be fixed to perfection they complain about the fixes.

Re: A Quick Word On Beta Testing

2015-10-22 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Well said Mark. I beta test products not because I have to, but because I want to, and don't expect thanks for doing so. I believe that if I offer my help, I'm doing something good for the blind community. And if a bug gets squashed because of my contribution, cool. If not, oh well. That's why I