Re: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, and I forgot to add that the top three data usage apps were DIRECTV, 
Personal Hotspot, and App Store respectively.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the info and no offense taken. I use the phone for all of my 
> internet type needs, including surfing the web, email, and watching TV. And 
> although this may change  with the new phones, the two iPhone mini phones I 
> have right now, neither of them can make it through a full day without having 
> to be charged. And too, should something happen with one of the phones, I 
> would still have a way to contact someone with the other one. I wanted to 
> stay with AT and get internet service with them, but they only offered in 
> my area a router or something that used cellular data with a limit of 50 GB, 
> anyway, so I just opted for the second line instead. My billing period starts 
> on the 27th of each month, and I just checked the cellular data usage on each 
> phone, as I reset every month right at the beginning of the billing period, 
> and one phone has used 24.1 GB while the other has used 24.7 GB so far.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I 
>> say, I mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having 
>> two phone plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, 
>> that is still almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years 
>> and I run a business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I 
>> have never felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and 
>> even though my wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery 
>> because we almost never use it and forget to charge it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins
>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro
>> 
>> I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
>> know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
>> using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like 
>> that to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the 
>> Apple Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 
>> 13 mini. I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them 
>> interchangeably to charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get 
>> two separate wired earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for 
>> charging the battery and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro 
>> would be appreciated. Thanks.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

Thanks for all the info and no offense taken. I use the phone for all of my 
internet type needs, including surfing the web, email, and watching TV. And 
although this may change  with the new phones, the two iPhone mini phones I 
have right now, neither of them can make it through a full day without having 
to be charged. And too, should something happen with one of the phones, I would 
still have a way to contact someone with the other one. I wanted to stay with 
AT and get internet service with them, but they only offered in my area a 
router or something that used cellular data with a limit of 50 GB, anyway, so I 
just opted for the second line instead. My billing period starts on the 27th of 
each month, and I just checked the cellular data usage on each phone, as I 
reset every month right at the beginning of the billing period, and one phone 
has used 24.1 GB while the other has used 24.7 GB so far. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I say, 
> I mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having two 
> phone plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, that is 
> still almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years and I run 
> a business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I have never 
> felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and even though my 
> wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery because we almost 
> never use it and forget to charge it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro
> 
> I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
> know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
> using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
> to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
> Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 
> mini. I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them 
> interchangeably to charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get 
> two separate wired earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for 
> charging the battery and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro 
> would be appreciated. Thanks.
> Sent from my iPhone
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connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini. 
I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them interchangeably to 
charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get two separate wired 
earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for charging the battery 
and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro would be appreciated. 
Thanks. 
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Walmart Black Friday deal

[Vicky Collins]

Replying for what I think will be the final time to my own message. I actually 
did just get both of my Walmart gift cards, so I don't have to fight with 
Walmart again this year, yay! I did have to wait almost the full 20 days from 
when the phones were shipped to get the cards, but it was certainly worth it in 
the end. I didn't actually have to activate the phones since I ordered online, 
but I of course did have to enter into the installment agreement with my phone 
carrier to get the cards. I still have the new phones in their shipping boxes 
right now, in fact, as I am waiting for the batteries on the 12 mini and 13 
mini to get below 80% before I start using the new phones. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> 
> Replying to my own message here. And in the end, kind of wanting to take care 
> of everything myself, I took another chance and just made the online purchase 
> of my two upgrade phones on Wednesday night, so I'm hoping I get both gift 
> cards OK this time. I had really only planned to upgrade my 13 mini to a 15 
> pro and get the $300 gift card for it. But when I saw that there was a $500 
> gift card to purchase a 14+, even though I'm not crazy about the bigger 
> phones, I wanted that gift card and so upgraded my 12 mini to the 14+ as 
> well. Since my TV watching is done through my phones only as I have no actual 
> television, I figured the 14+ with its bigger speaker than the mini phones I 
> now use would be good for that. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2023, at 4:23 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
>>> 
>> Are any of you all with AT or Verizon  taking advantage of the Walmart E 
>> gift card deal this year to get a new iPhone? I'm thinking I might do so 
>> myself, at least the gift card part but not the trade-in part, as I don't 
>> want those bill credits given a little bit at a time over 36 months or 
>> whatever it is. True, it does require getting one of the more expensive 
>> phones, having one of the pricier data plans, and committing to an 
>> installment agreement, at least for a couple of months, but since I do a lot 
>> of shopping at Walmart and my internet comes only from my phone data plan, 
>> this works for me.
>> 
>> I did this online a couple of years ago, getting two phones with a $300 E 
>> gift card coming with each. However, I must've done something wrong along 
>> the way because I only got one of my E gift cards emailed to me originally, 
>> and then I had to fight for over a month to finally get the second one sent 
>> to me. Thus, I was thinking I would see if I could get a family member to 
>> take me to Walmart this year, especially since the E gift card is emailed 
>> within 24 hours for an in store purchase, but it takes 20 days for an online 
>> purchase.
>> 
>> As I had kind of a hard time finding the preview announcement this year, 
>> here is the link to it:
>> https://www.walmart.com/cp/wireless-event-terms-conditions/3558588
>> 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Walmart Black Friday deal

[Vicky Collins]

Replying to my own message here. And in the end, kind of wanting to take care 
of everything myself, I took another chance and just made the online purchase 
of my two upgrade phones on Wednesday night, so I'm hoping I get both gift 
cards OK this time. I had really only planned to upgrade my 13 mini to a 15 pro 
and get the $300 gift card for it. But when I saw that there was a $500 gift 
card to purchase a 14+, even though I'm not crazy about the bigger phones, I 
wanted that gift card and so upgraded my 12 mini to the 14+ as well. Since my 
TV watching is done through my phones only as I have no actual television, I 
figured the 14+ with its bigger speaker than the mini phones I now use would be 
good for that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2023, at 4:23 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> Are any of you all with AT or Verizon  taking advantage of the Walmart E 
> gift card deal this year to get a new iPhone? I'm thinking I might do so 
> myself, at least the gift card part but not the trade-in part, as I don't 
> want those bill credits given a little bit at a time over 36 months or 
> whatever it is. True, it does require getting one of the more expensive 
> phones, having one of the pricier data plans, and committing to an 
> installment agreement, at least for a couple of months, but since I do a lot 
> of shopping at Walmart and my internet comes only from my phone data plan, 
> this works for me.
> 
> I did this online a couple of years ago, getting two phones with a $300 E 
> gift card coming with each. However, I must've done something wrong along the 
> way because I only got one of my E gift cards emailed to me originally, and 
> then I had to fight for over a month to finally get the second one sent to 
> me. Thus, I was thinking I would see if I could get a family member to take 
> me to Walmart this year, especially since the E gift card is emailed within 
> 24 hours for an in store purchase, but it takes 20 days for an online 
> purchase.
> 
> As I had kind of a hard time finding the preview announcement this year, here 
> is the link to it:
> https://www.walmart.com/cp/wireless-event-terms-conditions/3558588
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone

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Walmart Black Friday deal

[Vicky Collins]

Are any of you all with AT or Verizon  taking advantage of the Walmart E gift 
card deal this year to get a new iPhone? I'm thinking I might do so myself, at 
least the gift card part but not the trade-in part, as I don't want those bill 
credits given a little bit at a time over 36 months or whatever it is. True, it 
does require getting one of the more expensive phones, having one of the 
pricier data plans, and committing to an installment agreement, at least for a 
couple of months, but since I do a lot of shopping at Walmart and my internet 
comes only from my phone data plan, this works for me.

I did this online a couple of years ago, getting two phones with a $300 E gift 
card coming with each. However, I must've done something wrong along the way 
because I only got one of my E gift cards emailed to me originally, and then I 
had to fight for over a month to finally get the second one sent to me. Thus, I 
was thinking I would see if I could get a family member to take me to Walmart 
this year, especially since the E gift card is emailed within 24 hours for an 
in store purchase, but it takes 20 days for an online purchase.

As I had kind of a hard time finding the preview announcement this year, here 
is the link to it:
https://www.walmart.com/cp/wireless-event-terms-conditions/3558588

 
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Vicky Collins]

I'm way behind on email, but since I don't see this link posted yet, I figured I would send it. It does have a section that discusses making extra payments on installment agreements.https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210644Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 2, 2023, at 6:52 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Yeah I know the procedure but the payments are going to the balance not the device payments themselves. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne MerrittSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:01 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get used to it. Good luck,Wayne Merritt---Sent from Workspace ONE BoxerOn November 1, 2023 at 8:53:43 PM CDT, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all:So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra payments, how do you do it?When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.Ideas?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006701da0d2f%2466247420%24326d5c60%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/63886295-CDA0-406A-8E27-7EC558E46968%40gmail.com.



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Apple Store app FAQ and screen recognition

[Vicky Collins]

Another place, at least for me, where I find I need to use screen recognition 
is with the Apple Store app when I try to read their FAQ. I am in the United 
States and running iOS 16.3.1 on both an iPhone 12 mini and an iPhone 13 mini, 
although this problem has actually been occurring for quite some time. If I, 
say, select an iPhone and go down after all of the color and size selections 
and get to the bottom where the frequently asked questions are, I can find the 
expand and collapse buttons and double tap on them and read or collapse the 
answers, but I can’t read the questions they are actually answering unless I 
turn on screen recognition first. Of course, given the answers that are shown, 
I can pretty much tell what’s being answered without turning on screen 
recognition to confirm the questions.
 

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Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

[Vicky Collins]

Actually, the screen recognition didn’t work for me the first time I tried it 
either. However, since I have a credit union app that requires the same thing, 
in most cases, if I wait maybe 10 seconds or so after I invoke the screen 
recognition before trying to do anything with the app, it will work and read 
things for me. However, I absolutely do agree  that this should be fixed, 
especially for such an important function with Apple.
 

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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 1:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> That is interesting because I also tried it with screen recognition turned 
> on and it made no difference in my case.
> Anyways, even if that ere a work-around, such an integral setting of the OS 
> should not require any user to jumop through even a single hoop, it would be 
> no different if Apple did something so every time you wanted to turn Wi-Fi on 
> or off or check for updates you would be required to turn on screen 
> recognition so you can complete the task.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 9:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage 
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama 
> for VIPS
> 
> Although it wouldn’t be ideal by any means, when I checked just now, I could 
> turn on screen recognition while in the list of apps to which I was 
> subscribed, and I could then actually view that list of applications. I could 
> also double tap on one of the apps to which I was subscribed, then turn off 
> screen recognition, And then I could see the option to cancel that 
> subscription if I wanted to do so.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2023, at 11:14 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>> After experienncing the same results as reported, I decided to call Apple 
>> Accessibility, rather than email. He tested it on his iphone and was 
>> rewarded with the same mess. He says that Apple already had had several 
>> reports about it, he added mine to the list, along with his own results. I 
>> guess a problem gets more attention when the acccessibility representative 
>> gets the same results as the complaintants. I was told that they are 
>> "looking into it", and that it will be fixed in "a future update." I am glad 
>> I didn't wait until the last minute to change a subscription. And how could 
>> this have gott, past the beta testers? Are there beta testers? 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:32 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Please folks, Sieghards posting is really 100% the way things are displayed 
>> no wand please people stop saying this is not a bug or this or that or try 
>> screen recognition it makes really no sense even if you can click the 
>> buttons then and you donot know what subscription you select. 
>> Please people do report this tramendous new under the hood bug!
>> accessibil...@apple.com and stop convincing others of this problem not being 
>> a bug, this is eventually a bug!
>> Davy
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 23:18
>> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Onderwerp: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to 
>> manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and 
>> more a drama for VIPS
>> 
>> That must have changed in the last 4-6 weeks because I remember at some 
>> point in January I had a look at this because my wife has a yearly 
>> subscription for an app/service and it was showing up. I can confirm Davy's 
>> finding and this by the way is also now on iOS 16.4 public beta so 
>> apparently it makes no difference whether the iOS version is 15, 16 or 16.4 
>> beta.
>> I agree with Davy in this case, people should definitely report this. I did 
>> also try this with screen recognition turned on and it makes no difference. 
>> I get 3 headings, Active, Inactive and Options. Under Options Voiceover 
>> correctly reads whether the "Share with Family" option is checked or not.
>> Under "Active" I find a pop up button which allows you to pick app name, 
>> price or renewal date to sort your subscriptions, but while I can pick any 
>> of these options, after I do I still don't see any apps/services listed.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> davycupp...@gmail.c

Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama for VIPS

[Vicky Collins]

Although it wouldn’t be ideal by any means, when I checked just now, I could 
turn on screen recognition while in the list of apps to which I was subscribed, 
and I could then actually view that list of applications. I could also double 
tap on one of the apps to which I was subscribed, then turn off screen 
recognition, And then I could see the option to cancel that subscription if I 
wanted to do so.
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2023, at 11:14 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> After experienncing the same results as reported, I decided to call Apple 
> Accessibility, rather than email. He tested it on his iphone and was rewarded 
> with the same mess. He says that Apple already had had several reports about 
> it, he added mine to the list, along with his own results. I guess a problem 
> gets more attention when the acccessibility representative gets the same 
> results as the complaintants. I was told that they are "looking into it", and 
> that it will be fixed in "a future update." I am glad I didn't wait until the 
> last minute to change a subscription. And how could this have gott, past the 
> beta testers? Are there beta testers? 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Feb 27, 2023, at 5:32 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Please folks, Sieghards posting is really 100% the way things are displayed 
> no wand please people stop saying this is not a bug or this or that or try 
> screen recognition it makes really no sense even if you can click the buttons 
> then and you donot know what subscription you select. 
> Please people do report this tramendous new under the hood bug!
> accessibil...@apple.com and stop convincing others of this problem not being 
> a bug, this is eventually a bug!
> Davy 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard 
> Weitzel
> Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 23:18
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage 
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama 
> for VIPS
> 
> That must have changed in the last 4-6 weeks because I remember at some point 
> in January I had a look at this because my wife has a yearly subscription for 
> an app/service and it was showing up. I can confirm Davy's finding and this 
> by the way is also now on iOS 16.4 public beta so apparently it makes no 
> difference whether the iOS version is 15, 16 or 16.4 beta.
> I agree with Davy in this case, people should definitely report this. I did 
> also try this with screen recognition turned on and it makes no difference. I 
> get 3 headings, Active, Inactive and Options. Under Options Voiceover 
> correctly reads whether the "Share with Family" option is checked or not.
> Under "Active" I find a pop up button which allows you to pick app name, 
> price or renewal date to sort your subscriptions, but while I can pick any of 
> these options, after I do I still don't see any apps/services listed.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 1:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage 
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama 
> for VIPS
> 
> It is about the appstore and all subscriptions randomly of apps for which you 
> have probably subscribed.
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Jonathan Cohn
> Verzonden: maandag 27 februari 2023 22:37
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: PLEASE DO DO REPORT to Apple - nolonger possible to manage 
> subscriptions under the hood updates of Apple become more and more a drama 
> for VIPS
> 
> I would consider reporting, but I have no idea what subscriptions you were 
> talking about? Which application and what service?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2023, at 4:01 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Dear folks
>> 
>> Even with ios15 it is nolonger possible to manage ones subscriptions. 
>> 
>> The only thing you hear is active and inactive but Apple has made this 
>> window totally unaccessible for voiceover users.
>> 
>> Folks, please, please please do not be lazy and again and again; 
>> please report this awful bug to accessibil...@apple.com again and 
>> again, over and over until they fix this crab!
>> DO REPORT NOW!!!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
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Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

I’m really sorry that things aren’t working for you with this app. As for the 
reset network settings, you would go to settings, general, transfer or reset 
iPhone, reset, and finally reset network settings. If you decide to do this, 
you will then need to put back in your Wi-Fi password and rename your iPhone 
afterwards. I’m sure we can help with that if necessary. Resetting the network 
settings is one of the tools that is often used to try and fix things.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> I have the iPhone 8, running IOS 16.2. Weather Gods support sent me a link 
> to an article about things to try if you've stopped receiving notifications. 
> The first ones don't apply: my phone is not on Do Not Disturb; notifications 
> are not inadvertently turned off, and my news and delivery apps still send me 
> notifications. The article refers to a "reset network settings" under General 
> settings. I find no such thing. I am coming close to deciding that the app is 
> becoming too complicated to be workable and that I should cancel my 
> subscription and uninstall. 
> Here's the link to the article:
> httpsccwwwddtenorshare.com/ios-16/ios-16-notifications-are-no-longer-showing-upddhtml
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 20, 2022 10:21 AM, "Vicki W." 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> As a note, I have Weather Gods on my original SE with the latest 15.7 
>> security update and my Weather Gods notifications also stopped a few days 
>> ago. 
>> 
>> Vicki 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Debbie Downey"  
>> To:  
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 5:48 PM 
>> Subject: RE: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app 
>> 
>> 
>> Did you pay for an in app purchase for Weather Gods? Don't recall whether 
>> there was a charge for the app back in 2019 when my husband installed this 
>> app. 
>> 
>> He does not have anything about restore purchases. The only thing that there 
>> seems to do is to purchase an upgrade for certain features for $1.49 per 
>> month. 
>> 
>> Under his notifications for the app, it says that the notifications have 
>> been paused and that you can turn them back on in the device settings but 
>> there is nothing regarding this under notifications and settings other than 
>> acknowledgments. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins 
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 6:02 PM 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app 
>> 
>> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore purchases? 
>> I lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore purchases is 
>> what did it for me to bring them back. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings. 
>>> Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though. 
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
>>>  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, 
>>>> 
>>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they 
>>>> started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best, 
>>>> Anna 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications still don't 
>>>>> come. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey 
>>>>>  wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI Kathy, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather Gods also 
>>>>>> but no longer does. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature now or 
>>>>>> that is how it appears. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's too bad! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Debbie 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>>>> Fr

Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

When I got my notifications back, I went and deleted a city I no longer needed. When I did that, though, for a few hours after that, I still got that city notifications. I’m only saying this because possibly it may take a few hours for your notifications to come back. That’s only a thought, though. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 17, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Gordon  wrote:
  

  
  
Well I did everything suggested there in that article with no
  luck. Completely reinstalled and restored purchases. I don't have
  a weather gods current subscription, however I do have the
  grandfathered plan from when I first bought it several years ago.
  Restoring purchases brought that functionality back, but no
  notifications. I enabled the daily summary to arrive at 7:00 PM
  and nothing came at 7:00. 

On 12/17/2022 1:15 PM, Vicky Collins
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I’m not a member of AppleVis, but I really
  should have looked there. For, if I had, I would have found
  this thread:
https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/weather-gods-summary-notification
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows
 

  From:
Anna Dresner
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 1:39 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: I no longer receive notifications from
Weather Gods app

 
Hi,
 
Another thing to try is choosing the Pause
  Notifications button, then choosing the one to resume.
 
Best,
Anna
 
 
> On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Vicky
      Collins  wrote:
> 
> Well, hope something works for you.
  Otherwise, near the very bottom of the list of settings in the
  app, there is a Feedback and Help button which brings up an
  option to compose an email message when double tapped on.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM,
  Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>> 
>> I finally found it. We'll see if
  it does anything.
>> 
>> Kathy Blackburn
>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17,
  2022 7:24 AM, Vicky Collins 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t
  clear, but I was talking about restore purchases in the
  WeatherGods app. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at
  6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:

>>>> 
>>>> Under My Account in the
  app store, I find buttons labelled Purchased, Subscriptions,
  Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code, Send Gift Card by
  Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family Sharing, and
  Personalized Recommendations. My apps are all up to date, so
  the list of recently updated apps appears below those buttons.
  At the bottom of the screen is a sign out button. I'm not
  finding restore purchases.  
>>>> 
>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn
  Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins
   wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m guessing you’ve
  also gone into settings, my account, restore purchases? I lost
  my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore
  purchases is what did it for me to bring them back. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 16,
  2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn
   wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have indeed
  tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings.
  Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>>>
  kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner
   wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I stopped
  receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they
  started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t
  already. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best, 
>>>>>>> Anna 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec
  16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Bl

RE: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

I’m not a member of AppleVis, but I really should have looked there. For, if I had, I would have found this thread:https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/weather-gods-summary-notification  Sent from Mail for Windows From: Anna DresnerSent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 1:39 PMTo: VIPhone Mailing ListSubject: Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app Hi, Another thing to try is choosing the Pause Notifications button, then choosing the one to resume. Best,Anna  > On Dec 17, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:> > Well, hope something works for you. Otherwise, near the very bottom of the list of settings in the app, there is a Feedback and Help button which brings up an option to compose an email message when double tapped on.> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:>> >> I finally found it. We'll see if it does anything.>> >> Kathy Blackburn>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17, 2022 7:24 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:>>> >>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about restore purchases in the WeatherGods app. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote: >>>> >>>> Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons labelled Purchased, Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code, Send Gift Card by Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family Sharing, and Personalized Recommendations. My apps are all up to date, so the list of recently updated apps appears below those buttons. At the bottom of the screen is a sign out button. I'm not finding restore purchases.  >>>> >>>> Kathy Blackburn >>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore purchases? I lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore purchases is what did it for me to bring them back. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings. Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kathy Blackburn >>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Anna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications still don't come. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn >>>>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey  wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HI Kathy, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather Gods also but no longer does. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature now or that is how it appears. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's too bad! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Debbie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM >>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one in the morning and another in the evening, and additional ones in the event of severe weather. My iPhone 8 is running IOS 16.2; Weather Gods version is 3.9, which is the latest one. I stopped receiving notifications weeks ago. I've settings within the app and 

Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

Well, hope something works for you. Otherwise, near the very bottom of the list 
of settings in the app, there is a Feedback and Help button which brings up an 
option to compose an email message when double tapped on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> I finally found it. We'll see if it does anything.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 17, 2022 7:24 AM, Vicky Collins 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about restore purchases 
>> in the WeatherGods app. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons labelled Purchased, 
>>> Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code, Send Gift Card by 
>>> Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family Sharing, and Personalized 
>>> Recommendations. My apps are all up to date, so the list of recently 
>>> updated apps appears below those buttons. At the bottom of the screen is a 
>>> sign out button. I'm not finding restore purchases.  
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins 
>>>  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore 
>>>> purchases? I lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore 
>>>> purchases is what did it for me to bring them back. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings. 
>>>>> Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
>>>>>  wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they 
>>>>>> started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best, 
>>>>>> Anna 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications still don't 
>>>>>>> come. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey 
>>>>>>>  wrote: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HI Kathy, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather Gods also 
>>>>>>>> but no longer does. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature now or 
>>>>>>>> that is how it appears. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's too bad! 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Debbie 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM 
>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one in the morning 
>>>>>>>> and another in the evening, and additional ones in the event of severe 
>>>>>>>> weather. My iPhone 8 is running IOS 16.2; Weather Gods version is 3.9, 
>>>>>>>> which is the latest one. I stopped receiving notifications weeks ago. 
>>>>>>>> I've settings within the app and in the settings app and don't see 
>>>>>>>> anything amiss. I'd welcome any suggestions. Thanks for any help. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>

Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

Yes, I do have the $1.49 per month subscription. If I’m on the main screen of 
the app and I flick to the right once past settings, I see how many 
notifications are enabled for the active city and I can double tap on that and 
find a pause notifications button for the particular city. Or if I actually go 
into settings and then keep flicking right to notifications, once I double tap 
on notifications, the first thing I hear there is pause all notifications, and 
if I flick to the right one more time from there, I hear the button for the 
morning and evening schedule.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> 
> Did you pay for an in app purchase for Weather Gods? Don't recall whether 
> there was a charge for the app back in 2019 when my husband installed this 
> app. 
> 
> He does not have anything about restore purchases. The only thing that there 
> seems to do is to purchase an upgrade for certain features for $1.49 per 
> month.
> 
> Under his notifications for the app, it says that the notifications have been 
> paused and that you can turn them back on in the device settings but there is 
> nothing regarding this under notifications and settings other than 
> acknowledgments. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app
> 
> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore purchases? I 
> lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore purchases is 
> what did it for me to bring them back.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings. 
>>> Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though.
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they started 
>>> up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already. 
>>> 
>>> Best, 
>>> Anna 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications still don't 
>>>> come. 
>>>> 
>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey 
>>>>  wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> HI Kathy, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather Gods also but 
>>>>> no longer does. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2 
>>>>> 
>>>>> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature now or that 
>>>>> is how it appears. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's too bad! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debbie 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM 
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one in the morning and 
>>>>> another in the evening, and additional ones in the event of severe 
>>>>> weather. My iPhone 8 is running IOS 16.2; Weather Gods version is 3.9, 
>>>>> which is the latest one. I stopped receiving notifications weeks ago. 
>>>>> I've settings within the app and in the settings app and don't see 
>>>>> anything amiss. I'd welcome any suggestions. Thanks for any help. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.com 
>>>>> 
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Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, sorry, guess I wasn’t clear, but I was talking about restore purchases in 
the WeatherGods app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 6:50 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> Under My Account in the app store, I find buttons labelled Purchased, 
> Subscriptions, Notifications, Redeem Gift Card or Code, Send Gift Card by 
> Email, Add Money to Account, Set Up Family Sharing, and Personalized 
> Recommendations. My apps are all up to date, so the list of recently updated 
> apps appears below those buttons. At the bottom of the screen is a sign out 
> button. I'm not finding restore purchases.  
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 5:01 PM, Vicky Collins 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore purchases? 
>> I lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore purchases is 
>> what did it for me to bring them back. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings. 
>>> Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though. 
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
>>>  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, 
>>>> 
>>>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they 
>>>> started up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best, 
>>>> Anna 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn  
>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications still don't 
>>>>> come. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey 
>>>>>  wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI Kathy, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather Gods also 
>>>>>> but no longer does. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature now or that 
>>>>>> is how it appears. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's too bad! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Debbie 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM 
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one in the morning 
>>>>>> and another in the evening, and additional ones in the event of severe 
>>>>>> weather. My iPhone 8 is running IOS 16.2; Weather Gods version is 3.9, 
>>>>>> which is the latest one. I stopped receiving notifications weeks ago. 
>>>>>> I've settings within the app and in the settings app and don't see 
>>>>>> anything amiss. I'd welcome any suggestions. Thanks for any help. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>>>>> kblac...@austin.rr.com 
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Re: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app

[Vicky Collins]

I’m guessing you’ve also gone into settings, my account, restore purchases? I 
lost my notifications as well, and I am thinking the restore purchases is what 
did it for me to bring them back.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> I have indeed tried opening the app; I had to do that to check settings. 
> Behavior has not changed. Thanks, though.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 1:36 PM, Anna Dresner 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I stopped receiving notifications, but after I opened the app, they started 
>> up again. I suggest trying that if you haven’t already. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Anna 
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 16, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Kathy Blackburn  
 wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Actually, my subscription is current, but the notifications still don't 
>>> come. 
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn 
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Dec 16, 2022 10:29 AM, Debbie Downey 
>>>  wrote: 
 
 HI Kathy, 
 
 My husband Grant used to receive notifications from Weather Gods also but 
 no longer does. 
 
 He also has an iPhone 8 running IOS 16.2 
 
 He thinks that perhaps they want you to pay for this feature now or that 
 is how it appears. 
 
 It's too bad! 
 
 Debbie 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Kathy Blackburn 
 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 10:51 AM 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: I no longer receive notifications from Weather Gods app 
 
 I used to receive notifications from Weather Gods: one in the morning and 
 another in the evening, and additional ones in the event of severe 
 weather. My iPhone 8 is running IOS 16.2; Weather Gods version is 3.9, 
 which is the latest one. I stopped receiving notifications weeks ago. I've 
 settings within the app and in the settings app and don't see anything 
 amiss. I'd welcome any suggestions. Thanks for any help. 
 
 Kathy Blackburn 
 kblac...@austin.rr.com 
 
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RE: Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen

[Vicky Collins]

This is a little long, but I hope it makes at least some sense and that someone will correct any errors I may have made. Oh, and I am in the United States and currently using an iPhone 12 Mini and an iPhone 13 Mini with iOS 16.0.3, if that makes a difference. Unless I’ve missed it, I’m kind of surprised that no one has mentioned this widget thing before you started mentioning it a month or so ago. Since I like to keep all my apps in alphabetical order, when I had gotten some of them out of order a few months ago and then reset my home screen, I was surprised to find those stacked widgets as the first things at the top of my home screen. But since resetting the home screen again only brought them back, I just decided to live with them. When I read your question earlier today, I started looking around again, as since I had decided to live with the widgets, I also wanted the weather to show up first and then the calendar to show up when I did the one finger flick to the right. Thus, it kind of looks like if I double tap and then hold on the weather icon at the top of the screen, then wait to hear the sound to indicate that a context menu has shown up, then flick left and right with one finger till I hear edit stack, then double tap on that edit stack button, then put my finger down towards the bottom of the screen and find the smart rotate button, then double tap on it to turn it off, then find the done button in the upper right corner of the screen, and then double tap on that done button to save the change, weather and calendar should stay constant there and not change to maps or photos or  whatever Apple thinks I want to see at the time. The only way I can figure to get the weather icon back on the first page is to delete the widget stack, which it kind of sounds like you already did, and then move the icon back to the first page, so I’ll try the steps from the beginning with the widgets intact and see what happens. I once again put my finger on the weather icon on the first page, then I double tap and hold on that icon till I hear the sound, then I flick left and right till I find the remove stack button, then I double tap on that remove stack button, then I flick to the right to the remove button when prompted to confirm, and then I double tap on that remove button. Now to get the weather icon back on the first page, keeping in mind that that will then reorder the placement of the rest of the apps. From the first page on the home screen, I do a three finger swipe to the left to bring up the second page, then I put my finger on the weather icon on the top left of that second page, then I flick down with one finger and hear edit mode, then I double tap and hear started editing, then I put my finger on the weather icon again, then I flick up with one finger until I hear drag weather, then I double tap on the drag weather, then I hear find my as that is the next app on the page, but I flick right with three fingers to get back to the first home screen, then I find facetime in the upper left of the home screen, then I flick down with one finger until I hear drop weather before facetime, then I double tap on that drop weather before facetime, then I hear drop complete once I have done that and weather is once again in the top left of the first page. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Margaret ThomasSent: Friday, October 21, 2022 11:14 AMTo: V iPhone listSubject: Re: Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen I did some more web searches and one from Hadley that the "transcript" was just a sample, but it gave me a hint that I tried with "VoiceOver Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for  December 27, 2021" that I mentioned.  I have partial success.  I once again have a weather widget, but, unfortunately, it's on page 2 of the home screen and not on page 1 where it's more convenient.  I was wondering if I can manage to get it on page 1 if I can remove the one on page2 or should I remove the one on page 2 and try again to get it on page 1? Many thanks, Margaret  On 10/21/2022 12:38 AM, Margaret Thomas wrote:> Good Evening, All:> > I thought maybe I had reached enough of need to know on the learning > curve for my SE 2 that I could try a little want to know or curious > about things with the phone and had heard weather widget  stack so many > times on my status bar that I decided to try to investigate widgets.> > When I got the phone home from the Verizon store, it said   Cupertino > and the weather there and not my town and weather in the status bar that > was very annoying.  Several days> later, I asked my computer tech who was here for something else if he > could turn off raise to tap and he did and my town and weather were > magically in the status> bar instead of Cupertino when I looked at the phone when he left.  Maybe > he changed it which was helpful, but I have no idea what he did, so I > hadn't a clue about how to add a widget to the home screen.> Somehow, in my various phone misadventures, I 

Re: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14

[Vicky Collins]

This AppleVis podcast demonstrating the sound links to an article that may very well explain why the sound isn’t available on earlier phones:https://applevis.com/podcasts/quick-tip-how-turn-iphone-14-startup-shutdown-chimesSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 29, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







According to what I read online it does seem like all iPhone 14 models have this. This of course means it is not a feature which depends on the latest A16 chip which only the iPhone
 14 Pro and Pro Max have. One would wonder also if this can be done with the A15 chip why this option is not available at least on all iPhone 13 models; it may simply be that there is some other hardware change required which only the iPhone 14, 14 Plus, 14
 Pro and 14 Pro Max have. Anyways, as long as  you have an iPhone 14 apparently of any variation you can definitely enable it. A Google search for "enabling startup sound on iPhone 14 pro" gave the following "featured snippet from the web", this is usually
 the first result:
 
How to Enable iPhone 14 Startup Chime
Open the Settings app on your iPhone 14.
Scroll down and tap Accessibility.
Scroll down until you reach the Hearing section.
Tap Audio/Visual.
Tap the toggle next to Power On & Off Sounds to turn this feature on.
 
And here is the text of an article from Macrumors which clearly states that all iPhone 14 models have this feature, not just iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max:
 
iPhone 14: How to Enable the New Power On and Off Sounds
 
For the iPhone 14 series, Apple has added an optional new accessibility feature that plays a sound when the iPhone is powered on and off. Here's how to enable them.
Apple added the startup and shutdown chimes as a new accessibility feature after many Blind users and people with low-vision reportedly asked the company for a clear way to tell whether
 their iPhone had restarted, and now anyone can enable them.
Here's how to enable the new feature on iPhone 14, iPhone 14 Plus, iPhone 14 Pro, and iPhone 14 Pro Max.
 
1. Launch the Settings  app on your iPhone 14.

2. Scroll down and tap through to Accessibility .

3. Under "Hearing," tap Audio/Visual .

4. Toggle on the switch next to Turn On & Off Sounds .

 
That's all there is to it. You'll now know whenever your iPhone has started up or shut down without even having to look at the screen.
To disable the sounds, simply turn off the same toggle in Settings.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 12:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14


 
I don’t think I have any sounds for start-up and close-down. Is it something which needs to be enabled as I’d find it very useful.
Alison
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 29 September 2022 05:39
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14


 
Where did you hear the startup and shutdown sounds are also available on the regular iPhone 14?
 


From: 
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On Behalf Of Fanus Buys
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Startup and shutdown sound on iPhone 14


 
Hello list
I am a bit confused because at first I heard that these sounds and vibration would be available only on the pro and max but now it sounds as if the plain iPhone 14 has them too. Can someone please clarify?
Regards
Fanus
 
 
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Re: Messages app opening to compose screen

[Vicky Collins]

Well, it’s back to the basics that I should’ve thought of myself. While I do keep all messages erased after no longer needed and keep the apps cleared out so there’s nothing in the app switcher, I completely forgot about rebooting to see if that would work. And, of course, rebooting did fix the problem, so thanks very much for jogging my memory on that basic Solution. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:have you hit cancel on that open message?If you have not canceled it, it will stay open.If you did cancel it, perhaps clearing the app switcher and rebooting.Lastly, double check that screen recognition is not on.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Sep 28, 2022, at 6:01 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:And of course I forgot to mention that I am from the United States, in case that makes a difference.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it started before or after I updated to iOS 16.0.2. When I open the Messages app on my 13 mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I open the app on my 12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like normal. I have no idea what I did to make the 13 mini start opening to compose a message, but does anybody have any idea on how to get it back to opening to the list of messages?Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C4D0FFD0-AABC-4BFE-827A-642C3FE0FC78%40gmail.com.



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Re: Messages app opening to compose screen

[Vicky Collins]

And of course I forgot to mention that I am from the United States, in case 
that makes a difference.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it started 
> before or after I updated to iOS 16.0.2. When I open the Messages app on my 
> 13 mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I open the app 
> on my 12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like normal. I have no 
> idea what I did to make the 13 mini start opening to compose a message, but 
> does anybody have any idea on how to get it back to opening to the list of 
> messages?
> 
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Messages app opening to compose screen

[Vicky Collins]

This started a couple of days ago, but I can’t say whether or not it started 
before or after I updated to iOS 16.0.2. When I open the Messages app on my 13 
mini, it goes directly to composing a message, while when I open the app on my 
12 mini, it still goes to my list of messages like normal. I have no idea what 
I did to make the 13 mini start opening to compose a message, but does anybody 
have any idea on how to get it back to opening to the list of messages?

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Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[Vicky Collins]

I did change voices, meaning switched to another voice and back to the Samantha 
default, but I don’t think I can delete that Samantha default voice? Also, when 
this happened again last night, when I tried to read the screen with my other 
iPhone, I couldn’t do it this time. I’m wondering if that was because I had the 
brightness set to zero before I lost speech, and it was still set at zero when 
I checked after I got the speech back? And if so, I’m wondering if anybody else 
could’ve read my screen had I opted to ask them?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2022, at 3:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried what was suggested, forgot who posted it, and that is to 
> delete and reinstall whatever voice you are using as your primary Voiceover 
> voice?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
> 
> In my case, the forced restart just brought me back to the screen where I 
> would enter the passcode, and there was still no speech.
> 
> I lost speech upon boot up again tonight, but managed to luck into entering 
> my passcode correctly after being locked out for the 15 minutes. When I 
> called Apple Accessibility, the person I spoke with, had not heard of the 
> bug, but he did take my name and file a report. When I mentioned about 
> sending some type of logs to Apple, he said that was for a specific issue and 
> not one that was happening to several people, as I had mentioned that some 
> people on various blindness related email lists also had the problem.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>> I have yet to upgrade, so I can't testth  this myself. But when in the 
>> situation where VoiceOver won't talk after a reboot, what happens if you do 
>> a forced restart, and, as it were, start over? If possible, I would connect 
>> to power to restart after the forced restart. If this won't work, then there 
>> really is a problem. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not Speech that gets turned off, but Voiceover, so that is a whole 
>> different animal, as far as gestures are concerned. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Devin Prater
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 4:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> Interesting. Tell him to get screen recognition out of his rotor. Screen 
>> recognition, thankfully, now has different clicks, to show a user they're in 
>> that mode.
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:17 AM Arnold Schmidt > <mailto:als5...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as 
>> described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver 
>> would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor 
>> doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard 
>> when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had 
>> been turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code 
>> before it would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he 
>> tried would get it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it 
>> out there for others to test. He said that he had had no problem with IOS 
>> 16, until this incident. 
>> 
>>  Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[Vicky Collins]

That was a good thought, but in my case, when I checked, the accessibility 
shortcut was indeed on, and did not work at the boot tup until the passcode had 
been entered.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2022, at 3:51 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I  had this problem when I upgraded my SE20. At first I thought the upgrade 
> was fine until I  deleted a few  e  mails and the phone crashed.
> 
> I had the same problem, no way could I  get the phone to speak at boot up, 
> eventually I had to get sighted help to input the pass code and start 
> Voiceover the long way.
> 
> I  had a look through settings and noticed that the accessibility shortcut 
> was turned off, which it most certainly wasn't before the upgrade.
> 
> I  went into the shortcut settings, moved Voiceover up to the top, probably 
> not necessary but I wasn't taking chances and swiped down to activate double 
> tapped and exited settings.
> 
> I  rebooted my phone knowing/hoping that at least the triple click on the 
> home button should get me running if Voiceover didn't start, but to my 
> surprise Voiceover came back up as the phone re-started.
> 
> I  would suggest that anyone who has experienced this problem double check 
> their settings just in case.
> 
> 
> Gary
> 
>> On 21/09/2022 20:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Have you tried what was suggested, forgot who posted it, and that is to 
>> delete and reinstall whatever voice you are using as your primary Voiceover 
>> voice?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> In my case, the forced restart just brought me back to the screen where I 
>> would enter the passcode, and there was still no speech.
>> 
>> I lost speech upon boot up again tonight, but managed to luck into entering 
>> my passcode correctly after being locked out for the 15 minutes. When I 
>> called Apple Accessibility, the person I spoke with, had not heard of the 
>> bug, but he did take my name and file a report. When I mentioned about 
>> sending some type of logs to Apple, he said that was for a specific issue 
>> and not one that was happening to several people, as I had mentioned that 
>> some people on various blindness related email lists also had the problem.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have yet to upgrade, so I can't testth  this myself. But when in the 
>>> situation where VoiceOver won't talk after a reboot, what happens if you do 
>>> a forced restart, and, as it were, start over? If possible, I would connect 
>>> to power to restart after the forced restart. If this won't work, then 
>>> there really is a problem.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not Speech that gets turned off, but Voiceover, so that is a whole 
>>> different animal, as far as gestures are concerned.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Devin Prater
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 4:01 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Interesting. Tell him to get screen recognition out of his rotor. Screen 
>>> recognition, thankfully, now has different clicks, to show a user they're 
>>> in that mode.
>>> 
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:17 AM Arnold Schmidt >>> <mailto:als5...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as 
>>> described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver 
>>> would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor 
>>> doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard 
>>> when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had 
>>> been turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code 
>>> before it would work. He is a good i

Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[Vicky Collins]

In my case, the forced restart just brought me back to the screen where I would 
enter the passcode, and there was still no speech.

I lost speech upon boot up again tonight, but managed to luck into entering my 
passcode correctly after being locked out for the 15 minutes. When I called 
Apple Accessibility, the person I spoke with, had not heard of the bug, but he 
did take my name and file a report. When I mentioned about sending some type of 
logs to Apple, he said that was for a specific issue and not one that was 
happening to several people, as I had mentioned that some people on various 
blindness related email lists also had the problem.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I have yet to upgrade, so I can't testth  this myself. But when in the 
> situation where VoiceOver won't talk after a reboot, what happens if you do a 
> forced restart, and, as it were, start over? If possible, I would connect to 
> power to restart after the forced restart. If this won't work, then there 
> really is a problem. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 20, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> It's not Speech that gets turned off, but Voiceover, so that is a whole 
> different animal, as far as gestures are concerned. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 4:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
> 
> Interesting. Tell him to get screen recognition out of his rotor. Screen 
> recognition, thankfully, now has different clicks, to show a user they're in 
> that mode.
> 
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:17 AM Arnold Schmidt   > wrote:
> 
> 
>   I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as 
> described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver 
> would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor 
> doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard 
> when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had 
> been turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code 
> before it would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he tried 
> would get it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it out there 
> for others to test. He said that he had had no problem with IOS 16, until 
> this incident. 
> 
>   Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
>   Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[Vicky Collins]

I had this same thing happen with both my 12 Mini and 13 Mini Friday night, but I haven’t had the problem with either phone since. I’m using the default Samantha voice, and I had no problems when upgrading to iOS 16. With the 13 Mini, I had turned the phone off to get rid of that one unread message badge I often get now when I receive a text message on one of my phones and delete it right after reading. Since I have text message forwarding set up on both of my phones, the phone on which I don’t read the text shows that badge until I either recover the message I have deleted on the other phone or until I reboot that phone on which I haven’t read the message. Anyway, after turning that iPhone 13 Mini back on, VoiceOver did not speak or make any sounds, and nothing I did from trying to talk to Siri, using headphones, turning up the volume button, doing the triple click of the side button or force restarting the phone would bring back the speech. I finally got my 12 Mini to read the screen with Seeing AI, and after pressing the side button to get it where it needed to be, it finally read the slide to unlock or whatever it says, and I lucked into getting the phone into the correct position with the slide I did, and then I miraculously entered the passcode correctly and VoiceOver started talking once again. Before getting to this point, though, I had had enough unsuccessful attempts at entering that passcode to where I had to wait the fifteen minutes before I got the opportunity that actually let me unlock the phone and restore VoiceOver. As for my 12 Mini, while I had turned it off for the same reason as the 13 Mini, meaning another text message badge I wanted to get rid of as I had permanently deleted a message on the 13 Mini and thus couldn’t recover it on the 12 Mini to get rid of that badge, I wasn’t nearly as fortunate with recovering VoiceOver. For, even though I practiced positioning my fingers on the 13 Mini so I would be ready when I could get the 12 Mini to that unlock position, I somehow managed to enter the incorrect passcode every time, figuring this since VoiceOver never did start talking. I let this go on for my opportunity to enter the passcode after an hour, but when that attempt failed and the screen read that my 12 Mini would now be disabled for three hours, I decided to try other things. I couldn’t connect the phone to the computer and try to see if I could bring up the accessibility settings in iTunes because I had turned off the USB accessories setting that would’ve let USB accessories connect after the phone had been locked for an hour. I couldn’t turn the phone off as I normally do by pressing the volume up, then the volume down, and then pressing the side button for a second or two, and I was afraid to try to turn the phone off with holding the side button and one of the volume buttons as I didn’t want to risk calling 911 by mistake, so I wasn’t able to put the 12 Mini in recovery mode either. Oh, although VoiceOver didn’t work, I was able to call either phone when VoiceOver wasn’t working and each would ring even though there was no speech except me hearing myself when I would occasionally get that swipe just right and I managed to get a call connected. Thus, what I wound up doing in the end, as I certainly wasn’t going to knock on a neighbor’s door late at night, was that I went into the Find My app on my 13 Mini, erased the iPhone 12 Mini, and then set up the 12 Mini again restoring it from the iCloud backup I had thankfully done the day before. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Arnold SchmidtSent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 9:17 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had been turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code before it would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he tried would get it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it out there for others to test. He said that he had had no problem with IOS 16, until this incident.  Arnold Schmidt   Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched 

RE: Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'

[Vicky Collins]

I even heard some speculation before the Apple event that that was a way to encourage folks to purchase the more expensive phones rather than the regular 14s. Of course, I have no way of knowing if that was really Apple’s intention. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, September 12, 2022 2:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails' Small wonder if they release a new phone with the same chip as the old one and apart from a few minor camera enhancements and emergency GPS via satellite which only works in the US/Canada and hence is of no interest to the rest of the world let alone probably a majority of people in the US and Canada.Most people who have an iPhone 12 or 13 whether Pro or not probably think twice before upgrading to a regular 14 or 14 Plus. I think Apple would have done better to just offer the iPhone 14 in the regular screen size and drop the Mini and Plus option. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:16 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails' Link at end of article.Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'Sep. 12th, 2022The iPhone 14 and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus have seen "bad" pre-order results, indicating that Apple's positioning of the two new standard models may have failed, accordingto Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.iphone 14 iphone 14 plus in handIn his latest post on Medium, Kuo explained that the iPhone 14 Pro and ‌iPhone 14 Pro‌ Max have seen "neutral" and "good" pre-order results compared to the iPhone 13 Pro and ‌iPhone 13 Pro‌ Max. Delivery wait times of more than four weeks may indicate good demand for the new high-end devices. It is apparently "unclear"whether Apple will increase shipment forecasts of its Pro models, but there is a "growing" chance that it will cut orders of the ‌iPhone 14‌ and ‌iPhone14‌ Plus, which currently account for around 45 percent of the entire lineup's shipments.The ‌iPhone 14‌ and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus are expected to be in stock in retail stores on their launch dates, "reflecting lackluster demand." As it stands,Kuo says that the pre-order results for the ‌iPhone 14‌ and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus are worse than those of the third-generation iPhone SE and the iPhone 13 mini. He noted that Apple cut orders of both the third-generation ‌iPhone SE‌ and the ‌iPhone 13‌ mini in the first half of 2022 due to low demand.If demand for the two standard models do not improve, Apple may cut ‌iPhone 14‌ and ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus orders as soon as November. Suppliers who are notmajor beneficiaries of Apple's ‌iPhone 14 Pro‌ models will likely see the start of declining revenue in September and October as a result.For ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus, in particular, the "pre-order result is significantly lower than expected." As a model that effectively replaces the "mini" form factor in the latest iPhone lineup, with 6.1-inch and 6.7-inch display sizes now being the only options, Kuo said that "Apple's product segmentation strategy for standard modelsfails this year."All four of the ‌iPhone 14‌ models were announced by Apple last week and have been available to pre-order since September 9. The ‌iPhone 14‌, ‌iPhone 14Pro‌, and ‌iPhone 14 Pro‌ Max are set to launch on Friday, September 16, and the ‌iPhone 14‌ Plus will launch on Friday, October 7.https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/12/kuo-iphone-14-plus-worse-than-iphone-13-mini/-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002d01d8c6a1%246bb9c280%24432d4780%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched 

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Vicky Collins]

Yeah, if I’m looking at the tech specs correctly for each phone, meaning looking in the sensors area for each of the 14 models, only the pro phones show having the LiDAR scanner.What with watching YouTube videos and reading on the internet, even though I did read and watch ahead of time, I still thought it was kind of sad that practically everything had been leaked before the Apple event and thus no last minute surprises or anything. Well, actually, although I had heard rumors of it happening at some point, I do admit to being surprised with the physical SIM card not being available on the 14s here in the States.I had heard a rumor about the price of the regular 14s starting at $749 instead of the $799 at which they are being priced, and I was really hoping that would’ve been the case. I mean, to my way of thinking, with the regular 14s not getting the new a16 processor while the pro models are getting it and staying at the same price point as last year’s models, the regular 14s are actually losing a benefit they used to get and thus their price should be adjusted just a bit to account for that.I used to think I would never pay so much for a phone as the pro models cost. However, when I buy a new iPhone, and I will at some point in the future because I sold four of my older phones to Apple and received Apple gift cards, I’ll be strongly considering the 14 Pro. For now, though, and remember that I have two cell phone lines because my internet is strictly through my phones as well as their hotspot feature, I’m using a 13 Mini and a 12 Mini, having sold all of my non 5G phones to Apple. Thus, it’s much easier to back up my phones to iCloud since I can now use cellular data to do it, and updating each phone without having to connect to the hotspot of the other is kind of nice too.As for Face ID, I think I would often still prefer Touch ID, especially at night when I’m in bed and the Face ID isn’t as easily done, although I did get much better with it as I used it more. Now, though, once I started getting Face ID to work most of the time, even while in bed, I decided to turn on the require attention for Face ID. Seeing as I have no vision at all and one prosthetic eye, I didn’t expect much, so I was surprised when Face ID worked at all when I had this setting turned on. When I’m up and about, it works about half the time for me now, but it rarely works for me when I’m in bed and want to check something on the phone, so I then wind up having to enter the passcode. While I likely wouldn’t ever really need the require attention to be turned on, since it is a bit more secure, I think I’ll continue using it for a bit longer to see if practicing more will get it to work any better for me. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Sieghard WeitzelSent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability? From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well. I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb which is laughable because I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up for sale now privately.So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if 

Re: Problem with iPhone 13 on speaker phone?

[Vicky Collins]

I'm replying to my own message here, and I've never replied on the web 
before, so I'm not sure how it is going to turn out. But in the end, as my 
sister in-law just couldn't get folks to hear her on the speaker phone of 
the iPhone 13, she gave it back to me yesterday, so now I'm trying to 
decide just what to do, and I haven't refunded her the $40 yet since I'm 
not sure what I'm going to do. I could call Apple and probably, with some 
luck, get them to replace the phone, but then I'm afraid another phone 
would still have the same problem as indicated from various Google search 
results. Since I do want her to have something other than the 8 Plus, as 
that phone is getting a little older now, I've considered either looking 
for a used iPhone 12 or perhaps waiting till the new iPhones come out and 
trading in the iPhone 13 with Apple for a 14 for her, but I'm just not 
sure. Actually, as these were options she herself would've had, and I did 
mention them to her, I was kind of surprised she just handed me back an 
$800 phone and talked about me selling it or doing whatever. But oh, well, 
I guess I'll figure out something.
On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:43:58 AM UTC-4 Vicky Collins wrote:

> Has anyone with the iPhone 13 had trouble with folks hearing them due to 
> the 
> phone cutting out when they had the caller on speaker phone? I've seen the 
> issue mentioned a few times when doing a Google search, but I've missed it 
> if it was brought up on the list before since I pretty much never put the 
> phone on speaker when I'm on a call. 
>
> As I mentioned a while back, I took advantage of the deal from Walmart at 
> Thanksgiving and purchased an iPhone 13 and an iPhone 13 Mini, getting the 
> $300 Walmart gift card for each purchase. Anyway, I tried hard to like the 
> iPhone 13, especially because of its better battery life, but it was just 
> bigger than I liked, so I wound up making a deal with my sister in-law to 
> let her buy the phone from me at a much-reduced price, what with being 
> family and all. 
>
> When she got the phone set up, though, she said folks were telling her 
> that 
> the phone kept cutting out while she was talking and thus they couldn't 
> understand a lot of what she was saying. Now, as my subject line implied, 
> she was indeed using the phone on speaker phone, as that is how she 
> primarily uses her phones, while I almost never use the speaker phone when 
> I'm talking with someone. And in fact, when she's called me on the 13, the 
> phone often has cut out and I've had to ask her to repeat things, but I 
> could hear her just fine without any problems when I've ask her to take me 
> off speaker phone. 
>
> She's talked with Apple a few times and even had the occasion to go to an 
> Apple store yesterday and they ran some tests on the phone and told her 
> that 
> everything seemed fine with the phone and suggested it might be a carrier 
> problem. Then on the other hand, her carrier, AT, referred her back to 
> Apple. 
>
> She is just about to the point where she says she's going to ask AT to 
> switch things back so she can use her iPhone 8 Plus which worked just fine 
> on speaker phone and give me back the iPhone 13. I would really hate for 
> her 
> to do that as she would lose the newer phone as well as have to go back to 
> a 
> 64 GB phone as opposed to the 128 GB of the 13. But AT says they can't 
> help, and seeing as the nearest Apple store is almost 100 miles away from 
> us, she can't really keep going there either. I do still have the 
> AppleCare 
> Plus monthly subscription on that phone, as I wanted to make sure things 
> were working correctly for her before letting that go, which I guess could 
> be a good thing if she really does give me the phone back and I of course 
> refund the small amount we both agreed she would pay for it. 
>
>

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dictating emails on the iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

If I use the dictation feature to dictate emails on the iPhone and then review 
them character by character, it occasionally looks like two words throughout 
the messages are ran together. However, if I review the messages word by word, 
things do appear to read as they should. Thus, I’m guessing this is some type 
of line formatting or something that shows up when I review character by 
character? Does this sound correct?


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RE: Walmart app.

[Vicky Collins]

Yeah, I recall having to scroll down to the very bottom to check out and submit my order as well. I can’t perform the exact steps now as I’m waiting for a delivery from store slot to become available, and I now think I will wait for another day to finish this order. While we’re talking about the Walmart app, though, are either of you having trouble reading the product details? I can read them fine on the website but no longer in the app running iOS 15.4.1 and the latest version of the Walmart app. As I mentioned previously, while this difficulty occurred around the time of iOS 15.4 being released, the app worked just fine on my iPhone 7 running iOS 15.4 with an older version of the app but not with my iPhones that had already been updated to the newest version of the Walmart app. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Johna GravittSent: Friday, April 1, 2022 11:25 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Walmart app. I have had difficulty in placing orders, however I have found  that you need to get past the “feedback” button and you can accomplish this by swiping  with 3 fingers  as if you are turning a page and you’ll get to the checkout button  TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!  Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent AssociatePeople with disabilities, access job openings at:  www.benderconsult.com/jobsBender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean FreedomEmail: jgrav...@benderconsult.comPhone: (412)-212-6761Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567Web: www.benderconsult.comhttps://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/https://idisability.benderconsult.com/https://www.wbenc.org/certification/https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/Linkedin logo and linkTwitter logo and linkInstagram logo and linkFacebook logo and linkItunes logo and link to disabilty matters From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny BomaretoSent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:36 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Walmart app. For those of you that use the app, have you had any difficulty checking out your items when you want to purchase them? The last three or four times now in order to get my stuff that I need I’ve had to call Walmart Customer Care and they had to place the order for me. So could somebody tell me what I need to do? Please and thank you. This is getting rather frustrating.  Good thing there is the phone number we can call to get help. So I’m grateful and thankful for that.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/95E4C8A4-A84E-491D-86BC-B55106503FCF%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BLAPR16MB3636AAECECA33D8B690C0383D2E09%40BLAPR16MB3636.namprd16.prod.outlook.com. 



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Fwd: the various subscriptions [Case #: 03067683] [ ref:_00DA0L1VM._5002K12oUO5:ref ]

[Vicky Collins]

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Consumer Iphone Support 
> Date: March 29, 2022 at 9:33:04 AM EDT
> To: vcollins5...@gmail.com
> Subject: the various subscriptions [Case #: 03067683][ 
> ref:_00DA0L1VM._5002K12oUO5:ref ]
> 
>  Hi!
> 
> Thank you for reaching out with this question about pricing.
> 
> First, you have a Premium Pro subscription that will renew on February 15, 
> 2023.  
> 
> There is no functional difference between the $19.99 and $29.99 Premium Pro 
> versions.  The $19.99 version is a sale price offered to some users.  if you 
> were to select it now, it would be added on to the end of your current 
> subscription.
> 
> The Premium yearly and monthly subscription includes fewer hours of Hourly 
> forecasts as compared to Premium Pro (96 hours as compared to Pro's 192), and 
> does not include the 72-hour future forecast or local video alerts.  Those 
> are the primary differences.
> 
> Please let me know if you have any additional questions.  Thank you!
> 
> --Victoria
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> From: [vcollins5...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 3/28/2022 12:27 PM
> To: iphonesupp...@weather.com
> Subject: the various subscriptions
> 
> Could you please explain the difference between the subscriptions to the iOS 
> app? See the attached screenshot from my account, settings/Apple 
> ID/subscriptions/The Weather Channel Premium, to confirm what I’m talking 
> about. I of course know the difference between monthly and yearly, thus I’m 
> specifically asking about the difference between Premium and Premium Pro, as 
> well as the difference between the $19.99 and $29.99 Premium Pro offerings. 
> I’m perfectly satisfied with the subscription plan I’ve chosen, but I still 
> can’t help but be a bit curious as to what is given with each of the 
> subscriptions. By the way, I am a totally blind person using VoiceOver, and I 
> really do appreciate you all taking the time to make the app so accessible, 
> not to mention the fact that I very much enjoy the detailed weather forecasts 
> and all the weather alerts. Thanks in advance for any clarification you are 
> able to give.
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Re: questions regarding subscriptions for two weather apps, Weather Gods and The Weather Channel

[Vicky Collins]

I do understand what you’re saying, but then  I also like getting all the 
weather alerts.

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> On Mar 25, 2022, at 1:41 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> 
> Personally, I think that there is so much info available about the weather 
> that I can't see paying for that kind of info.
> When I was a kid I wanted to set up a weather station in the back yard.  I 
> recall my dad saying that if you want to know the weather, look out the 
> window.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 10:33 AM
> Subject: questions regarding subscriptions for two weather apps, Weather Gods 
> and The Weather Channel
> 
> First, if memory serves, I purchased Weather Gods a few years ago and thus 
> was grandfathered into things that are subscription based now. But I’m still 
> a little confused when I look around in my account and look at all the 
> various subscriptions and features. Best I can tell from looking around, we 
> who are grandfathered into having the features for free have the Premium plan 
> as the $2.99 monthly and the $29.99 yearly plans both appear to be grayed out 
> for purchase. However, it looks like the extended forecast is available for 
> us to purchase but for $1.49 monthly and no yearly plan. Does this look right 
> to those of you who are also on this older plan? If this were an additional 
> subscription, although I would prefer a yearly plan, I was kind of thinking 
> of getting the subscription rather than putting money in the Tip Jar, 
> although I guess one could do both.
>  
> Second, when I look at the subscription choices for The Weather Channel in my 
> account on the app store, I see Premium Pro Monthly for $4.99, Premium Pro 
> Annual $19.99, Premium Pro Annual $29.99, The Weather Channel Premium one 
> month $.99, The Weather Channel Premium one year $9.99. Does anyone know 
> what’s actually offered with each of these subscriptions? I first used the 
> few days trial offered over a year ago, and then I subscribed to the $29.99 
> version a couple of months ago. I wonder if maybe some of these options were 
> previously offered but not anymore? Oh, I did also check the subscription 
> info from pressing enter on my Apple ID in settings and going to 
> subscriptions that way, and while they were shown in a slightly different 
> order, the same options were there.
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RE: what to choose

[Vicky Collins]

I wonder how much difference the 2X2 MIMO in the SE versus the 4X4 MIMO in the 13s makes? I’m thinking the mmWav 5G not being in the SE wouldn’t make a difference to most people right now.I certainly don’t need another iPhone, but I considered buying the new SE anyway. For while I can handle Face ID without too much trouble most of the time in the day and the evening, I find myself switching back to my SE 2020 when I go to bed at night. I often wake up in the middle of the night and want to check something on my phone, but I just can’t seem to get the Face ID to work when I’m in the bed like that and I get tired of entering the passcode all the time. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Kelly PierceSent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: what to choose Half of the usefulness of iPhones is iOS. To get the biggest bang foryour money, go with the most recent processor. These phones would befrom the 13 series and the SE 2022. The original SE was introduced in2016 and is still receiving updates six years later.  I have theiPhone Mini and love the small size and the 512 GB of storage. I planon transferring most of my music to this phone and buying a greatsounding Marshall Bluetooth speaker to play it on. The highest storagelevel for the SE 2022 is 256 GB.  KellyOn 3/18/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:> Richard,> > Actually, the iPhone 13 Mini is physically smaller than the SE 2020 and> 2022. Although its screen specs are larger, the 13 Mini has an overall> smaller form factor.> > Alan Lemly> > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of> Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:02:27 PM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: what to choose> > The 13 mini is not the same as the SE 2022.> > 13 mini has no home button, the SE 2022 does.> > I have not refreshed my memory, but I do not believe they are the same size> either.  The SE is smaller, same as the previous SE 2020 and the iPhone 8,> and 7.> > > Richard> > > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/> > -Original Message-> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna> Gravitt> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 11:00 AM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: what to choose> > Is the 13 mini the same as the se 2022?> > > TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!>   Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with> disabilities, access job openings at:> www.benderconsult.com/jobs Bender> Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com> Phone: (412)-212-6761> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567> Web: www.benderconsult.com> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/> https://benderconsult.com/insights/blog/> https://idisability.benderconsult.com/> https://www.wbenc.org/certification/> https://disabilityin.org/what-we-do/supplier-diversity/> Linkedin logo and link> Twitter logo and link> Instagram logo and link> Facebook logo and link> Itunes logo and link to disabilty matters> > -Original Message-> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia> Struve> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 1:21 PM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: what to choose> > Hi, on this same subject, can you tell me the pros and cons in your opinion> of the iPhone 13 mini? I  looked at the comparisons bbetween my s e on the> battery life and it looks like the 13 mini is a lot better.> > Lelia> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Mar 18, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:>> >> I, for one, was fortunate to make an easy transition to a phone without a>> Home Button, and now, I do not want to have a Home Button on an iPhone.>> That would be a deal breaker now, for me to consider getting the SE2 or>> 3.>> >> -Original Message->> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On>> Behalf Of Alan Lemly>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 10:06 AM>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: what to choose>> >> Hi Alison,>> >> All iPhones should be equally accessible since they all run iOS.>> >> The Pro models of the iPhone 12 and 13 have LIDAR capability but those>> models are at the top of the price chain.>> >> I think at some point learning to use the models with face ID and no home>> button is a good thing but only you can answer how important a home button>> is to you. The iPhone SE third generation also called the SE 2022>> announced last week is a very capable phone and is the best price starting>> at $429 USD for a new model with 64GB capacity. Add an additional $50 for>> each 64GB of additional capacity. This model still has a home button and>> enough camera capability to handle any OCR done by the iPhone for reading,>> etc.>> >> I'm very much enjoying my iPhone 13 Mini because I like its smaller form>> factor but must admit that it took me a bit of time to get used to no home>> button. The nice thing about iPhones is that you can customize them>> 

RE: my upgrade experience

[Vicky Collins]

My order confirmation email didn’t talk about how to activate the phone, but it did refer me to the various links of terms and conditions, so perhaps the information was there and I just didn’t read it. But about a week after I contacted AT and got the phones activated with the correct SIM cards, I received the following message twice, once for each phone that I purchased, from Walmart Apple support that said in part:Dear Vicky Collins,  Thank you for your recent order from Walmart.com.  Unfortunately, due to a fulfillment issue, your iPhone and its SIM card may have shipped separately from one another. Additionally, the iPhone may have shipped without being activated. We know this may have been an anticipated holiday gift, and we’re sorry for the inconvenience. Please see the instructions below to activate your phone. Instructions: 1.    When you receive both your iPhone and the SIM card, use the proper link below for guidance setting up your phone in preparation for activation.  AT: https://www.att.com/activations/ Verizon: https://www.verizon.com/support/how-to-activate-4g-phone-upgrade/1.    If you have followed the directions from the link provided and are still experiencing activation issues, please reply to this email with the following information: Serial Number:IMEI/MEID:ICCID: You can find this information on the bottom of your Apple iPhone box. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Kelly PierceSent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 12:39 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: my upgrade experience My carrier was very clear in an e-mail it sent after I ordered myiPhone 13 Mini at the cell phone store. I must activate the SIM cardincluded in the box with the iPhone as the phone and cell phonenetwork is coded to recognize my SIM and IMEI number together. If Iwasn’t sure how to do this, I could go back to the store and theywould be happy to activate with the new SIM card. Kelly   On 1/13/22, Dennis Long  wrote:> I upgraded to a 13 pro from a SE 2020 I am happy with the upgrade.> > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of> vcollins5...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 6:53 PM> To: viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: my upgrade experience> > > > This message may run a bit long, but I’m not really asking any questions> here. Rather, I’m just making several observations about the process of> upgrading my iPhones.> > > > My reason for upgrading: I believe I mentioned before that, while I did> indeed have some newer iPhones, I was using my older first generation iPhone> SE and my iPhone 7 as my primary phones, intending to run them to see just> how long they would last before their batteries finally died. However, when> the Walmart delivery from store came to my area, including delivering> perishable groceries, I was very pleased. Thus, when Walmart had their Black> Friday promotion where they offered the E-gift cards if one upgraded their> phone, I jumped at the chance to do so. True, one had to sign on with a> carrier and choose one of their unlimited data plans and pay a $30 upgrade> fee per line, but I already was on an unlimited plan with AT, anyway, so> that wasn’t a problem for me. And while I had to enter into the installment> agreement, the AT terms and conditions did say that I could pay off the> installment agreement at any time.> > > > The upgrade process: it was actually pretty straightforward. I started my> purchase in the Walmart iPhone app, but then was directed to the Walmart> website to finish things after I selected the phone and carrier I wanted.> There were several screens of terms and conditions I had to go through, and> then the phone got added to my cart and I could check out. I actually> ordered one phone on November 22, and then I ordered the second one on> November 25 right after I received the first phone. Yes, believe it or not,> FedEx actually delivered that phone to me on Thanksgiving Day.> > > > Activating the phones: I was told when I ordered the phones that they would> be coming with a SIM card, but since I didn’t recognize the type of SIM card> they mentioned, I wasn’t sure if the phones were coming with an E-sim or> regular one. But when I tried to activate one of the phones and was told> that it needed a SIM card in order to be activated, I took the SIM out of> one of the phones I was then using and put it in the new phone and activated> it, and then I did the same thing when activating the other phone. And> wouldn’t you know it, it was only after both phones were activated that I> thought to take one more look in the box. And, sure enough, I found a SIM> card for each phone in its respective box.> > > > Since one of the conditions for getting the gift cards was that the phones> be activated, I wanted to make sure that they were activated with their> 

Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

[Vicky Collins]

I don’t have an iPhone 8 that I believe was  mentioned, but I do have an iPhone 
7, and I  checked with it just now and was able to  find the place order button 
in the Walmart  app. On the review order screen at the  bottom of the screen 
there was a give  feedback button or something like that, and  I had to swipe 
up with three fingers to get  past that and then find the place order  button 
at the bottom of the screen. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill, only the iPhone 11 & newer have screen recognition. I don't recall 
> which phone that you have. Have you tried going into the app store, finding 
> the app & writing the app developer explaining the problem in detail? I would 
> also suggest using screen recording, found in the control panel, & make a 
> recording of the problem to attach to your email, screen recording video will 
> be saved in the photos app.
> 
> Donna
>  
>> 
>> Thanks  for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing 
>> about this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings 
>> and have not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.
>> 
>> When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
>> exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and 
>> quick settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> - Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail
>> 
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Re: App not announcing submit

[Vicky Collins]

Where exactly in the process are you running  into the problem? I mean, have 
you already  gotten to the screen where you select  whether the item is going 
to be shipped or  picked up or delivered from the store and  then gotten to the 
review order screen? If  so, I tend to find the place order button way  down at 
the very bottom of the screen. I  agree that the customer service from  Walmart 
often isn’t very helpful, although  they once in a great while do seem to be. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> I suppose this may be a worthwhile tactic to use with a problem I’m having 
> with the WalMart iOS app.  I use the app to place items in the virtual cart, 
> but when I try to place the order the “Place Order” button cannot be found 
> (using VoiceOver).  I’ve reported this a number of times in the WalMart 
> “Feedback” framework, but to no avail.  I called into customer service and 
> was told by the ?customer service? person that we (meaning blind folks) are 
> not a large enough customer base to warrant the cost of correcting the 
> problem.  I find this to be terribly disingenuous since the problem did not 
> manifest until July or August earlier this year.  The company could afford to 
> break it, but can’t (more like won’t) afford to fix it.
> 
> The particularly maddening aspect of this problem is that if I use Safari to 
> go to the WalMart web page and the checkout screens, I’m quite able to locate 
> the “Place Order” button!
> 
> I do apologize for being so wordy in this message, but I feel that if other 
> blind customers using the iOS app report this problem perhaps they might find 
> that we (blind folks) are deserving of better customer service!
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * *
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "Judge each day not by the harvest you reap but by the seeds you plant."
> - Robert Louis Stevenson
> 
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> You could try and turn on screen recognition and see if you can find the 
>> Submit button with it enabled.
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Re: Problems with the Walmart App

[Vicky Collins]

I know the Walmart app can now often be way  more difficult, but I have managed 
to play  around and find the product details and  nutrition information. If I 
open the particular  product screen, then put my finger on the  screen to make 
sure I am where I think I am,  and then swipe up from the bottom with three  
fingers twice, I very often get to where I can  flick through the nutrition 
information and  then come to the product details. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> As many of you probably know, a while back a major update was done to the 
> Walmart App. I think some of the changes were good.
> 
> However, as with most things, some were not. In some ways, I now find the App 
> a bit more difficult to use.
> 
> 
> For instance, when I would be ordering groceries, I sometimes like to click 
> on a particular item, and read the details on it. Or especially read the 
> nutrition information.
> 
> However, I can no longer seem to be able to do this. I think I may know why, 
> thanks to something a friend told me.
> 
> 
> Apparently, instead of having tabs that I could view, to see either the 
> details, or nutrition facts, it is all now photos. Of course, this isn't at 
> all helpful if you are totally blind.
> 
> 
> So is there possibly anything I can do about this?
> 
> I am not one to complain to a company, really. I haven't ever reached out to 
> a developer about their App. I don't know really how to begin to express why 
> this is a problem, in a way that might be helpful.
> 
> 
> Is this something that I possibly should do?
> 
> If so, what are some ways I should go about it?
> 
> I would really like to hear from some of you who have a lot more experience 
> with this.
> 
> 
> Also, if I don't reach out regarding the App, is there possibly a way to view 
> the information that might be in any of the product photos? Some way that 
> won't be complicated, and add a bunch more steps, to just trying to get 
> groceries ordered?
> 
> 
> Any thoughts, and help is much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Powering off iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

Since the 2020 SE has a home button, Apple indicates that phones with home 
buttons hold down the side button to get the power off message, and that was 
indeed what I had been doing. However, when I checked just now with my second 
generation SE, I was surprised to also be able to hold down the side button and 
volume down button or press and quickly release the volume up, volume down, and 
then press and hold the side button for a second or two as discussed earlier 
for the phones without a home button.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:27 am
Subject: RE: Powering off iPhone

>
>
> It's a good idea to clear your app switcher and power off the phone from time 
> to time, even if all is good maybe doing so once a month certainly isn't 
> going to hurt.
> I assume you power of a second Gen iPhone SE the same way as all the other 
> newer phones, a simple Google search for "How to shut down iPhone SE 2020" 
> should give you the info.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: November 23, 2021 3:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Powering off iPhone
> 
> And for the SE2020, how would one mower it off? I've never had to do it, but 
> it wouldn't hurt to know. With the First Generation SE, and those before it, 
> you'd just hold down the Power/unlock to bring up the "Power Off" or Cancel 
> button.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
> > El 23 nov 2021, a laggness) 12:51 addm., Sieghard Weitzel 
> >  escribió:
> > 
> > "Which iPhone do you have? If it's anything like an XR, 11, 12 or 13 series 
> > phone holding the side button does not bring up the Power Off screen, you 
> > have to either press and hold one of the volume buttons along with the side 
> > button at the same time or press first volume up briefly, then volume down 
> > and then press and hold the side button for about 2 seconds.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > Wendy Lin
> > Sent: November 22, 2021 8:16 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Powering off iPhone
> > 
> > Hi everyone,
> > Is it normal when the power button doesn't always work to power off the 
> > phone? Sometimes when I need to wipe down my iPhone and I want to power off 
> > my device first before doing so, I notice when I hold down the power button 
> > that I'm not always given the dialogue with the power off button and cancel 
> > button, so I would have to turn off my phone in the settings.
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Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, grin, I'm hoping there's no problem with my iPhone 12 Mini. But well, 
although I really do want that phone and plan to keep it, I wound up getting 
two other iPhones that I wasn't expecting as I had planned them for family 
members, thus I just haven't gotten around to unpacking the 12 Mini yet.

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:49 pm
Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

>
>
> Hi Vicky,
> 
> I also get a power off button at the top of the screen when pressing and 
> releasing volume up, pressing and releasing volume down, then holding down 
> the side power button for a couple of seconds. Only power off and cancel are 
> on the screen with this method. If the side power button is held down for 
> several seconds with this method, the phone does a hard reset. This is on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini.
> 
> I'm curious why your iPhone 12 Mini is in a drawer. You really didn't explain 
> what the problem is with it. I love my 13 Mini.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> First, your description of the screen after pressing the volume down and side 
> button was great, and thanks so much for it. I actually will use that method 
> for turning off the phone from now on. But second, although I won't use it 
> anymore, when checking again just now, I sure did get a power off screen 
> where I could either power off or cancel if I pressed the volume up button 
> and released it, pressed the volume down button and released it, and then 
> pressed the side button for a second or two and released it. Sometimes it 
> even said power off before I could release the button so I knew that screen 
> had come up. However, if when following the above procedure I held down the 
> side button for about ten seconds and then released it, the phone did indeed 
> restart.
> Oh, this is on my XR running iOS 15.1. I had originally purchased this phone 
> used off one of the blindness buy and sell lists and was planning to give it 
> to a family member but just kept it when that particular person had already 
> purchased an iPhone SE 2020 on their own. Thus since I now have this phone 
> and a couple of older ones I'm using to see how long it will take for their 
> batteries to run down, my poor 12 Mini is still in the drawer where I put it 
> in its box when I ordered it on the first day Apple started taking orders for 
> it. My first generation iPhone SE now shows its maximum capacity at 57 
> percent but still supporting normal peak performance. And while the battery 
> might last a few hours on standby, things like web surfing or TV watching 
> will often, but not always, cause the battery to run down within an hour, and 
> it never lasts more than two hours doing those kinds of things. In fact, the 
> battery for that phone is pretty much completely unpredictable as to just how 
> long it will last, sometimes showing 100 percent after charging overnight and 
> then going down to zero and just shutting off if I perform an action such as 
> going a couple of layers into the settings.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2021 2:10 pm
> Subject: RE: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> >
> >
> > When you do what you describe you are not actually turning off the phone, 
> > you are restarting it.
> > If you want to turn it off and you don't want to use the buttons, you can 
> > go to Settings > General > Shutdown and double tap.
> > This also brings up the same menu as holding down say Volume Down and thew 
> > Side button, focus is most likely on Power Off, but just make sure of it 
> > because as I said, it's the same menu and it also includes the emergency 
> > call buton.
> > Anyways, if you simultaneously press and  hold volume down and the side 
> > button until the menu comes up, the only way you call emergency services 
> > would be if focus is on that button and you double tap without tchecking.
> > I always swipe left until I get to the Power Off button and if it seems I 
> > am on Power Off already I may even swipe right once and back to the left to 
> > make sure. The screen when this menu comes up is laid out as follows:
> > 
> > At the very top you still have the status bar with the time, your cell 
> > signal, Wi-Fi and battery status on the right Just underneath that

Re: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

l find that there 
> is a bit of a gap between the first two buttons and these two which are 
> pretty much right in the middle of the screen.
> 
> Lastly, if you swipe right again from the Emergency Call button, you find a 
> "Cancel" button and as the name implies, if you double tap here it will again 
> close this screen and take you back to wherever you were before.
> That button is again after a gap and it's located near the bottom of the 
> screen.
> All these buttons go right across most of the screen from left to right, i.e. 
> you can touch your screen near the left side and drag your finger down and 
> find them or you can touch the screen near the top on the right side or in 
> the middle.
> 
> You really shouldn't be that afraid, you are much more likely to accidently 
> call emergency services if you press the side button too many times 
> repeatedly, just pressing and holding a volume button and the side button 
> won't do that if you are careful not to double tap afterwards without making 
> sure you are not on the emergency call button.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: November 21, 2021 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone
> 
> First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever 
> an old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
> iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
> iCloud, anyway?
> 
> Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
> Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button 
> for a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always 
> pressed the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button 
> and released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have 
> gotten the dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these 
> instructions for force restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the 
> side button quite a bit longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the 
> way I am, what am I doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?
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two questions, signing out of iCloud and turning off iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

First, when reading the instructions for selling or giving away or whatever an 
old iPhone, before erasing the iPhone, one is also advised to sign out of 
iCloud, and I was wondering why since erasing the phone signs one out of 
iCloud, anyway?

Second, in regards to turning off the iPhones without the home button, I know 
Apple talks about holding in one of the volume buttons and the side button for 
a few seconds. But being afraid of calling 911 by mistake, I've always pressed 
the volume up button and released it, pressed the volume down button and 
released it, then pressed the side button and released it and I have gotten the 
dialog to shut down the phone. I know Apple gives these instructions for force 
restarting the phone, but one needs to hold down the side button quite a bit 
longer for this. Anyway, by turning the phone off the way I am, what am I 
doing, and does it harm the phone in any way?

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Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account

[Vicky Collins]

I guess I need to clarify something here. I said that you had to pay more to 
get an unlocked phone, but I guess that isn't technically true in most cases 
according to the FAQ in the Apple Store app when looking at purchasing a new 
iPhone. What it actually seems to say is that if you choose to pay with an AT 
installment plan, your iPhone will be locked to the carrier, but it doesn't say 
that same thing when purchasing iPhones for other carriers. It further does 
say, though, that to receive the instant discount, all you need to do is 
authorize activation of your new iPhone with an eligible AT unlimited plan, 
any T-Mobile/Sprint phone plan, or a Verizon Wireless service plan at the time 
of purchase.

- Original Message -
From: Julian  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 26, 2021 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account

>
>
> Actually, I would very much be in favor of someday everything being type C so 
> that you don't have to have two different types of connectors. My main 
> problem with them no longer including the charger and headphones is that they 
> don't lower the price of the phone when they're giving you less and at the 
> same time they raised the cost of the phone if you're buying it unlocked. 
> That's why I think it was a brilliant move on the part of the marketing 
> people but not one that I particularly like. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> > 
> > "It's about time they cut back on mor and more waste, there is absolutely 
> > no reason why every phone, headset, Bluetooth speaker or whatever other 
> > device has to come with a USB wall charger.
> > I just read that the EU is looking at introducing legislation which would 
> > force Apple to adopt the USB-C charging standard and that of course would 
> > be best and really no device or accessory nowadays should have anything 
> > else. Then people can have a couple of USB-C wall chargers and that would 
> > be the end of it.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > Julian
> > Sent: September 26, 2021 9:17 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
> > fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account
> > 
> > And isn't it great how this new pricing scheme coincided with the removal 
> > of the charger and earbuds from the iPhone packages. Got a handed to those 
> > marketing geniuses at Apple, they seem to know what they're doing. Despite 
> > these moves, people fall all over themselves and lineup to get more and 
> > more of it.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> >> 
> >> "Not exactly an activation fee, but it does seem that, at least here in 
> >> the States when buying directly from Apple, that one is charged $30 more 
> >> if they wish to buy an unlocked phone. For example, the base-model iPhone 
> >> 13 Mini is listed at $699, but that is with the automatic $30 carrier 
> >> discount, as an unlocked one is priced at $729.
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Kay Malmquist  
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:51 pm
> >> Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding 
> >> activation fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Ok you two,  I'll do just that.  Thanks much.
> >>> 
> >>> Kay Malmquist
> >>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> >>> 
> >>> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> >>> Bob Proctor
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message - 
> >>> From: Alan Lemly 
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:16 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding 
> >>> activation fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Kay,
> >>> 
> >>> Well, you do need a SIM card in your 12 Mini to get cellular service but 
> >>> I agree with Richard and think you should ask AT whether you can move 
> >>> the SIM card from your old to your new phone.
> >>> 
> >>> Alan
> >>> 
> >>> From: vipho

Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account

[Vicky Collins]

Not exactly an activation fee, but it does seem that, at least here in the 
States when buying directly from Apple, that one is charged $30 more if they 
wish to buy an unlocked phone. For example, the base-model iPhone 13 Mini is 
listed at $699, but that is with the automatic $30 carrier discount, as an 
unlocked one is priced at $729.

- Original Message -
From: Kay Malmquist  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account

>
>
> Ok you two,  I'll do just that.  Thanks much.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Alan Lemly 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
> fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account
> 
> 
> Hi Kay,
>  
> Well, you do need a SIM card in your 12 Mini to get cellular service but I 
> agree with Richard and think you should ask AT whether you can move the SIM 
> card from your old to your new phone.
>  
> Alan
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 11:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation 
> fees when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account
>  
> Alan and others,
> I truly hope this is not hijacking a thread, but you bring up a question that 
> I was going to ask.  I have a new 12 Mini and I have set it up just with 
> Wi-Fi and have not set up the cellular portion yet.  That was going to be my 
> question.  Do I just pop in the sim card or what do I have to do.  Last time 
> I switched phones, although it was several years ago, I seem to remember just 
> switching the sim.  I have AT if you need to know.  Thanks much for any 
> thoughts.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> "Where focus goes, energy flows."
> Bob Proctor
> - Original Message - 
> From: Alan Lemly 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 10:52 AM
> Subject: Recap of my support tweets with Verizon on avoiding activation fees 
> when adding new iPhone to existing Verizon Prepd account
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> As I posted yesterday, I'm starting to research getting a new iPhone and 
> avoiding any activation fee when adding it to my existing Verizon Prepd 
> account. When I upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an SE 2020 in May, 2020, I was 
> told that I needed to move the SIM from my iPhone 8 to my new SE 2020 in 
> order to avoid the activation fee. I wanted to check whether this was still 
> the case so attempted to call Verizon and ask. I had no success on the phone 
> but found great support by tweeting a direct message to @Verizon.  I'll paste 
> their replies below.
>  
> Answer to my question about activation fees on new iPhone and whether I 
> should transfer my SIM from the old to the new iPhone:
>  
> I apologize for any confusion, Alan. You will not receive an activation fee 
> for activating a new phone on an already existing line. Activation fees are 
> only charged when you open a new line on an account.. 
>  
> It would be best advised to not use the same SIM Card from your old device, 
> as that can cause SIM Swapping issues and be pinged for fraud. If it came 
> with a Verizon SIM Card already installed, you are good to go to use that SIM 
> Card. 
> Does this clarify?
>  
> Answer to my question about how to activate the new iPhone once receive:
>  
> You are very welcome, Alan. I'm happy to help! 
> When you get the new phone, you can attempt to activate by entering your new 
> IMEI and ICCID into My Verizon. Once that is finished, you will turn 'OFF' 
> the old device, ensuring Find My iPhone is also turned off. Then, on the new 
> device that you wish to activate, turn off WI-Fi and Bluetooth and reboot the 
> device. Give it a few moments to connect to the network. 
> If you have any issue reach out to us here, and we would be glad to help 
> activate it for you.
> Was I able to resolve all your concerns for today?
>  
> Note that the My Verizon referenced in the answer to the second question 
> about activating the new iPhone is the My Verizon app. I hope others will 
> find the above helpful.
>  
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Re: No new iPhone yet

[Vicky Collins]

The last few iPhones I received, I didn't have to sign for. I even asked about 
signing the first time, and I was told I didn't need to. And if memory serves, 
I was still living in Indianapolis at that time where, earlier when I had 
ordered an iPhone, they wouldn't even leave it at the apartment complex leasing 
office for someone at the front desk to sign as they had done with most of my 
other packages. I actually did ask a UPS driver why no signature, and he told 
me it was fine since he was handing it directly to me. And I do indeed agree 
with Sieghard that I would be very unhappy to have an iPhone just left outside 
my door where anyone could grab it. I don't mind so much the more inexpensive 
things being left, as smaller things like snacks and iPhone cases from Amazon 
are often left, as well as non-perishable grocery items from Walmart, but I 
would be very unhappy to have a more expensive item just left like that.

- Original Message -
From: Esther Levegnale  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: No new iPhone yet

>
>
> i'll bet it's because you have to sign for it. Good luck. I hope you get it 
> soon. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> > On Sep 25, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > his
> > I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday ... 
> > well, I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, 
> > with nothing marked on it ... which I found out later means, we will try 
> > two more times to deliver then likely will send it back ... and the next 
> > time is Monday.
> > So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.
> >  
> > It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I'm not being 
> > sarcastic.  They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the 
> > porch, especially with all the package thieves running around and they 
> > don't want to be liable.
> >  
> > O well, patience is a virtue, right?
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Richard
> > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> > it." - Jane Wagner
> >  
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> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> his 
> I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday ... 
> well, I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, 
> with nothing marked on it ... which I found out later means, we will try two 
> more times to deliver then likely will send it back ... and the next time is 
> Monday.
> So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.
>  
> It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I'm not being sarcastic. 
>  They are not going to leave 

Re: Battery Issue in latest update

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, wow, I have a first generation iPhone SE showing maximum capacity of 66 
percent and still showing as supporting normal peak performance. The maximum 
capacity on my iPhone 7 is 78 percent, and it is also showing supporting normal 
peak performance. And, grin, no, as I've mentioned before, what with living out 
in the country and not near a place to do so, I don't plan to replace the 
batteries on them. I'm just trying to get the most I can out of them before I 
break out my newer iPhones and use them on a regular basis. I do have them 
backed up and ready to go, as the battery life on these older phones is now 
lasting less and less time between charges, as well as often very suddenly 
dropping 20 percent or more at a  time and sometimes just shutting off 
altogether. Thus, when I go out for more than just a few minutes, I take both 
phones with me just in case.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:51 am
Subject: RE: Battery Issue in latest update

>
>
> 82% is very close to where Apple recommends that you get the battery changed 
> and I am actually surprised it still considers it peak performance, maybe 
> they changed it a bit, but when I had my iPhone 8 I was told my battery was 
> not performing at it's full potential when it was at 83%.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update
> 
> I updated my iPhone 8 to 14.71 yesterday and when I checked my battery 
> health, it still said I was at 82% and at peak performance.  I have been at 
> this level of power, 82% and at peak performance for some time now.  I'll 
> keep an eye out and see if anything changes in the future.
> 
> On 7/31/21, danamariel...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > I have noticed on our I Phone 8's that if you check the battery health 
> > status, since the last update that it tells me and my husband and 
> > others who are friends of ours that they need to get their IPhone 8 
> > batteries replaced.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > Kimberly
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:17 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update
> >
> >
> >
> > My husband and I have both noticed this behavior. He has a first 
> > generation SE and I have an SE 2020 and it appears to be happening on 
> > both phones since iOS 14 was installed.
> >
> > Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> >
> > True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Duane Steele  >  > wrote:
> >
> > "Hello again, listers,
> >
> > In an earlier text I mentioned my misgivings about iOS 14 which I 
> > didn't get around to installing till last week. If this subject has 
> > been covered before, I apologize. But I've noticed since updating that 
> > my phone's battery seems to lose its charge more quickly. Is this 
> > really happening, or am I just imagining it. If it's true, is there any 
> > solution? Thanks.
> >
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follow-up regarding questions about Balance My Checkbook by LingsDesigns

[Vicky Collins]

I asked some questions about the Balance My Checkbook app by LingsDesigns on 
this list and another one but didn't get any answers, so I finally decided to 
contact the developer. And as I expected from reading some of the reviews about 
the app, I did indeed get a response.

If anybody recalls my first message to the list regarding this, if memory 
serves seeing as I didn't bother to save my original message here, I had three 
questions. As the first question involved what were improvements made to 
VoiceOver to the newer version of the program and was just a curiosity 
question, I opted not to take up the developer's time with it.

My other two questions involved whether the search transactions feature was 
still available in the legacy version of the app, and whether the notes field 
was still auto completed for the same type of transaction in the current 
version of the app. While I don't feel comfortable posting the developer's full 
email here, I'll post the part relating to those specific questions, and then 
I'll talk a little bit about my call to Apple Accessibility afterwards. And 
speaking of Apple Accessibility, I've heard in various places that they're no 
longer letting one call with non-VO questions but are referring those to the 
AppleCare number. Are folks here finding this to be the case? Anyway, here is 
the developer response followed by my comments:

Search is available in all versions but the search bar may be hidden, to show 
it swipe down on the center of the Account screen.  I'm not sure how you do 
that with VoiceOver.  The most current version shows it by default.


Because of user complaints, auto complete for the notes field was disable to 
match its behavior in version 1.x.  I'll consider adding an option for whether 
to auto complete the notes in a future update.

Anyway, I very much appreciated the developer's concise, timely, and courteous 
response to those and my other questions. And since I didn't know how to access 
the search option in the legacy version, either, I called Apple Accessibility. 
We talked a bit, and then it was decided that I would let them take a look at 
my screen. However, when he tried to send me the notification, I never did 
receive it, and he said it was because I wasn't using Wi-Fi. I then suggested 
that I try connecting the phone I was using to the personal hotspot of my other 
phone, and that did indeed work to allow him to see my screen.

We still couldn't figure out how to get to the search bar, though, so I 
suggested turning off VoiceOver and letting him take a look, to which he 
agreed. He then suggested I swipe down from the top of the screen with three 
fingers with VoiceOver turned off, then turn VoiceOver back on, and then see if 
I could see the search box. So I did the swipe down with VO off, turned VO back 
on, and the search box stayed there as long as I remained in that particular 
account. Actually, after I hung up from Apple, I tried turning off VO, doing 
practically anything anywhere on the screen with however many fingers I liked, 
and the search box would appear. But depending on what I did, for example just 
tapping in the middle of the screen with one finger, often brought up a 
specific transaction in the account as well as the search box, if that makes 
sense.

Anyway, as I mentioned in a follow-up email to the developer after talking with 
Apple, as much as I am tempted to go back and use the legacy version now that I 
know how to use the search feature with it, I'll just stick with the newer 
version, especially since the developer talked about making the legacy version 
identical to the current version at some point.

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Re: Low data mode

[Vicky Collins]

I had this frustrating thing happen to me a  while back. Try going into 
settings/Wi-Fi,  and then find your network name and go in  there and find the 
low data option and turn it  off.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Donald Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Whenever I update apps, I get a message for each attempted update which says 
> "low data mode is on, cancel, continue." I obviously turned this on at some 
> point; I located the setting under cellular data and turned it off. But when 
> I go to update apps, the system still says that this setting is turned on. I 
> should mention that I am running IOS 14.6 on this S E 2. I should also 
> mention that I rebooted the phone, but the problem persists.
>  
> I sure hope someone can shed some light on this as it is a real nuissance to 
> have to press the continue button for each app I wish to update.
>  
> Don Roberts
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Re: Randomly moving settings

[Vicky Collins]

This also happens to me when I move my SIM card from one of my iPhones to the 
Android phone to either backup or update my iPhones and then move it back.

- Original Message -
From: Barbara Stahl  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:30 am
Subject: Re: Randomly moving settings

>
>
> That's really weird because I just used it yesterday and then this morning it 
> disappeared on me really strange
> 
> > On Jun 24, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> > 
> > "This has always behaved this way, if you haven't used it in a while r 
> > maybe never it goes away and once you use it, it comes back as a main 
> > Settings item.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > Barbara Stahl
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:42 AM
> > To: Viphone 
> > Subject: Randomly moving settings
> > 
> > So Today I opened settings in order to use personal hot spot with my 
> > laptop, and it had randumly moved to inside the sellular settings section. 
> > Previously it was its own category in settings. It took me a couple of 
> > minutes to find it.  Then after I used it I opened settings just to check 
> > again and it had moved back to its own separate setting category. Does 
> > anyone know what would cause this to happen? I have an iphone 8 running ios 
> > 14.6.  
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Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem

[Vicky Collins]

I had the exact same thing happen to me on two of my phones yesterday after 
updating the Amazon Shopping app. Uninstalling the app, then doing a reboot, 
and then installing the app again solved the problem. And yes, I did have to 
sign back into the app as well as fix its notification settings.

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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:40 pm
Subject: Re: Amazon Alexa App Problem

>
>
> Hi,
> 
> Hmm that is strange. Try reinstalling the app maybe? Remember that you 
> will have to have your Amazon sign-in info to get back in. You won't lose any 
> of your data on Alexa or anything if you do this. Also maybe even before 
> that, restart your phone? Is this the only App it is doing thi to?
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Edward Przybylek  
> > wrote:
> > his
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > Tonight I tried to open the Amazon Alexa app to opt out of the Amazon 
> > Sidewalk feature.  I double tapped the app on my home page after which 
> > there was a delay and I was returned back to the home page with focus still 
> > on the Amazon Alexa app.  I opened the app switcher and found the app 
> > listed there.  Double tapping the app, however, simply returned me to the 
> > home page with focus still on the app.  I then tried the same exercise on 
> > my iPod Touch 7 with the exact same results.  Has anyone else experienced 
> > this problem?  If so, were you able to find a solution?  As always, any 
> > help is greatly appreciated.  Stay healthy.
> >  
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> that, restart your phone? Is this the only App it is doing thi to?
> 
> 
> Jenn
> 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Edward Przybylek  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> his
> Hi all,
>  
> Tonight I tried to open the Amazon Alexa app to opt out of the Amazon 
> Sidewalk feature.  I double tapped the app on my home page after which there 
> was a delay and I was returned back to the home page with focus still on the 
> Amazon Alexa app.  I opened the app switcher and found the app listed there.  
> Double tapping the app, however, simply returned me to the home page with 
> focus still on the app.  I then tried the same exercise on my iPod Touch 7 
> with the exact same results.  Has anyone else experienced this problem?  If 
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questions about the Balance My Checkbook app by LingsDesigns

[Vicky Collins]

I've mentioned using the Balance My Checkbook app by LingsDesigns before on 
this list. But best I can tell from looking at the two apps and my purchase 
history, I was using the legacy version of the app and not the newer version 
now being offered. However, when I wanted to perform a search through my 
various transactions and could no longer find the search transactions button 
even though I've used the paid version since 2016, I went to the app store and 
downloaded the newer version and the search function did indeed work. I 
noticed, though, that the notes for the update done about a month ago for that 
newer version, which is no longer the most current update, mentioned 
improvements for VoiceOver, and so I was wondering what those improvements 
were, as the legacy app didn't have, and likely didn't need, that particular 
update.

Also, with the legacy version of the app, the notes field from a prior same 
transaction was already filled in for the next same type of transaction, but 
that appears to not be the case with the newer version of the app. For example, 
when paying the utility bills, sewer bill or water bill or whatever would 
already be filled in the notes section from where I had paid that same company 
the month before in the legacy version of the app but not in the current 
version.

thus, I was wondering if I've gotten things mixed up from downloading and 
installing the two versions, or if I'm seeing things correctly here? I can 
certainly contact the developer if necessary, but if anyone still uses either 
the legacy app or the current one and could answer any of these things for me, 
that would be appreciated. Again to confirm, since maybe my ramblings were a 
bit confusing: first, just to satisfy my curiosity, does anyone know what the 
improvements to VoiceOver were done about a month ago in the current version of 
the app? Second, is the autocomplete feature for the notes part of the app no 
longer available in the current version of the app? And finally, is the search 
transaction feature no longer available in the legacy app?

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Re: Google.

[Vicky Collins]

You can't just say Hey Google or Okay Google from within the app? I can't if 
the assistant is still giving information, but once it is no longer speaking, I 
can say either of those, then I hear the beep, and then I can ask further 
questions. I'm thinking that perhaps I couldn't do this at one time for some 
reason, but I am able to do so now. I'm not using a Siri shortcut, though, as I 
either find the app and go into it directly or just ask Siri to launch it for 
me. I can also find the mic button and double tap it, but I'm usually too lazy 
to do that.

- Original Message -
From: TaraPrakash  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: Google.

>
>
> Please try Google assistant app. It will let you create a Siri shortcut and 
> then you can interact with it through Siri when not using the app. When 
> inside the app you will have to double tap the mic button for subsequent 
> actions  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 16, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > 
> > "I downloaded Google, but I want to know if I can say Hay
> > Google and get Google to answer questions. How would I do
> > that, just press Power and say Hay Google? Would it conflict
> > with Siri? Or, is there something else I need to know? 
> > 
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Re: SE 2020 question

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, I'll use it eventually. It'll be my first iPhone with Face ID, it'll be the 
smaller one that I prefer, and the 5 G will be there assuming it gets to where 
I live in the next two or three years. And if things happen as they have in the 
past when I've delayed activating my phones, the AppleCare doesn't start until 
the phone is actually activated. I was surprised at this the first time when I 
waited almost a year to activate one of my phones, so I called Apple to confirm.

- Original Message -
From: Simon A Fogarty  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 5:40 pm
Subject: RE: SE 2020 question

>
>
> But it will have a better resale value if you never take it out,
>  
> But then I'd be asking why did you buy it if you aren't going to use it?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 4:37 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
>  
> Hi Vicky,
>  
> One thing is for sure, you aren't going to learn about your iPhone 12 Mini by 
> leaving it in the box.
>  
> Alan Lemly 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Vicky 
> Collins 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:20:08 AM
> To: viph...@googlegroups..com 
> Subject: Re: SE 2020 question 
>  
> One of these days, I really do need to unbox my iPhone 12 Mini. But since I 
> haven't yet and thus don't know, what happens, if anything, if you just hold 
> down the power button for those few seconds like on the older phones when 
> powering them off?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 7:24 am
> Subject: RE: SE 2020 question
> 
> >
> >
> > Holding volume down and power is how you shut down the newer iPhones and on 
> > that screen in addition to the "tap to power off" button you have a button 
> > to call 9 1 1.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viph...@googlegroups..com  On Behalf Of 
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:06 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
> > 
> > I've never called 911 with my iPhone 8.  I just hold down the power button 
> > for a couple seconds and I slide my finger down until I hear close.  I've 
> > never seen anything about calling 911.  I've also never heard of holding 
> > the down volume and power buttons at all.
> > 
> > On 4/13/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > I have had an 11 for almost a year and a half and haven't called 911 
> > > by accident, or on purpose, for that matter, thank goodness.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > > Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:45 PM
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
> > >
> > > You will be fine doing it the same old way.
> > > Just be careful not to be squeezing the volume keys while holding in 
> > > the power/side switch, I cannot remember if that calls emergency 
> > > services, but tapping the power button 5 times I think does.
> > > I have an SE 2020 and I have not called 911 accidentally as of yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> > > discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
> > >
> > > www.turner42.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 13, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Larry Lumpkin  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > his
> > >
> > > You power on with the power button on the right side just like an 
> > > older iphone 7 or 6 or 5. Etc.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> > > Of Anne West
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:40 PM
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: SE 2020 question
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > I ordered an SE 2020 iPhone today because my trusted iPhone 8 has a 
> > > battery that will not hold a charge. My friend, Hope, and I researched 
> > > a bit and I ended up buying the phone from Verizon, my carrier. I 
> > > wanted the home button and a little faster phon

Re: SE 2020 question

[Vicky Collins]

Ah, yes, but once I open that box, all of the fun of anticipating will be over. 
But of course, you are right, though. I do have other iPhones that I'm using in 
the meantime. Believe it or not, although I finally did open and sometimes use 
the iPhone SE 2020 that I ordered and received on the first available date, it 
took me a few months before I unwrapped it, and I'm just not quite ready to 
unveil my Mini yet, and I ordered and received it when it was first available 
as well.

I'm mostly using the original iPhone SE and an iPhone 7 at present. In the end, 
my sister didn't want the old SE, so I just decided to keep it. Some of you may 
recall that I had asked on here last year about giving it to her with a maximum 
battery capacity of 80 percent. Well, now the battery has a maximum capacity of 
68 percent and I have to charge it at least three times during a 24 hour 
period, unless I use it for standby only, but it otherwise works great. I can 
tell, though, how much slower it is than even my iPhone 7 when trying to access 
large or complicated web sites. But since I live out in the country and don't 
intend to pay cab fare somewhere to get the battery replaced, this works for me 
for now, although I'll likely surprise myself and start using my new iPhones at 
some point. 

- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: SE 2020 question

>
>
> Hi Vicky,
> 
> 
> One thing is for sure, you aren't going to learn about your iPhone 12 Mini by 
> leaving it in the box.
> 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Vicky 
> Collins 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 11:20:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: SE 2020 question 
>  
> One of these days, I really do need to unbox my iPhone 12 Mini. But since I 
> haven't yet and thus don't know, what happens, if anything, if you just hold 
> down the power button for those few seconds like on the older phones when 
> powering them off?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel  
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 7:24 am
> Subject: RE: SE 2020 question
> 
> >
> >
> > Holding volume down and power is how you shut down the newer iPhones and on 
> > that screen in addition to the "tap to power off" button you have a button 
> > to call 9 1 1.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:06 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
> > 
> > I've never called 911 with my iPhone 8.  I just hold down the power button 
> > for a couple seconds and I slide my finger down until I hear close.  I've 
> > never seen anything about calling 911.  I've also never heard of holding 
> > the down volume and power buttons at all.
> > 
> > On 4/13/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > I have had an 11 for almost a year and a half and haven't called 911 
> > > by accident, or on purpose, for that matter, thank goodness.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > > Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:45 PM
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
> > >
> > > You will be fine doing it the same old way.
> > > Just be careful not to be squeezing the volume keys while holding in 
> > > the power/side switch, I cannot remember if that calls emergency 
> > > services, but tapping the power button 5 times I think does.
> > > I have an SE 2020 and I have not called 911 accidentally as of yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> > > discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
> > >
> > > www.turner42.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 13, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Larry Lumpkin  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > his
> > >
> > > You power on with the power button on the right side just like an 
> > > older iphone 7 or 6 or 5. Etc.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> > > Of Anne West
> > > Sent: Tue

Re: SE 2020 question

[Vicky Collins]

One of these days, I really do need to unbox my iPhone 12 Mini. But since I 
haven't yet and thus don't know, what happens, if anything, if you just hold 
down the power button for those few seconds like on the older phones when 
powering them off?

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 7:24 am
Subject: RE: SE 2020 question

>
>
> Holding volume down and power is how you shut down the newer iPhones and on 
> that screen in addition to the "tap to power off" button you have a button to 
> call 9 1 1.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
> 
> I've never called 911 with my iPhone 8.  I just hold down the power button 
> for a couple seconds and I slide my finger down until I hear close.  I've 
> never seen anything about calling 911.  I've also never heard of holding the 
> down volume and power buttons at all.
> 
> On 4/13/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > I have had an 11 for almost a year and a half and haven't called 911 
> > by accident, or on purpose, for that matter, thank goodness.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Richard Turner
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 6:45 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: SE 2020 question
> >
> > You will be fine doing it the same old way.
> > Just be careful not to be squeezing the volume keys while holding in 
> > the power/side switch, I cannot remember if that calls emergency 
> > services, but tapping the power button 5 times I think does.
> > I have an SE 2020 and I have not called 911 accidentally as of yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> > discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
> >
> > www.turner42.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 13, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Larry Lumpkin  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >
> > his
> >
> > You power on with the power button on the right side just like an 
> > older iphone 7 or 6 or 5. Etc.
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> > Of Anne West
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 5:40 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: SE 2020 question
> >
> > 
> >
> > I ordered an SE 2020 iPhone today because my trusted iPhone 8 has a 
> > battery that will not hold a charge. My friend, Hope, and I researched 
> > a bit and I ended up buying the phone from Verizon, my carrier. I 
> > wanted the home button and a little faster phone and got both. I also went 
> > from 64 GB to 128 GB.
> >
> > 
> >
> > My burning question is when powering on and off, is it done like the 
> > previous models or will I call 911 when powering off the way I've done 
> > it for years? I hold in the power button until I here power off and tap on 
> > it.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Anne West
> >
> > k1stm...@gmail.com 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
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Re: AT suspending service to number when inserting SIM card into older phone

[Vicky Collins]

I'm replying to my own message here. Today I finally got brave enough to insert 
my SIM card into my Nokia 6 once again, seeing as was indicated from the chat 
with the AT rep below I was finally told I could indeed use that phone. 
However, once again I got that upgrade message from AT, the SIM wouldn't work 
in my Nokia 6, and the SIM no longer worked when I put it back in my iPhone 7.

The rep did once again reactivate that phone number and once again said there 
would be no charge to do it. She also suggested that getting a new SIM card 
would allow me to use the Nokia 6. When I asked her what would be the 
difference with the card, she only said it would allow me to use the Nokia. 
Although I have my doubts about that, especially seeing as I only got this  SIM 
a year and a half ago when I got the second line, I did say okay to sending the 
SIM card anyway. In fact, I suggested sending a new card for each of my 
numbers, which she said she would do at no charge to me.

So I guess we'll see what happens and whether I actually get brave enough to 
try and activate the new cards and switch them from my iPhones to the Nokia to 
do the iCloud backups. I may just leave well enough alone or possibly look for 
a more up-to-date phone with which to do my iCloud backups. 

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Collins  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2021 2:20 pm
Subject: AT suspending service to number when inserting SIM card into older 
phone

>
>
> Has anyone ever had this happen before? I'm not sure whether it was just a 
> technical glitch or if it could happen again or what, as I never got a 
> straight answer from the person I did the online chat with at AT
> 
> As I've mentioned previously, since my only internet is on my phones or via 
> personal hotspot with my phones, and I can only backup my iPhones to iCloud 
> using my Nokia 6 Android phone, I proceeded to put my SIM card in that Nokia 
> 6 and backup one of my phones yesterday. But, this time, although I tried 
> several times after enabling the hotspot feature on the Nokia, I just 
> couldn't seem to get the backup on the iPhone to complete. I then finally 
> noticed a message on my Android phone, a free message from AT that said 
> something like: 7535 AT free msg. We're always looking for ways to connect 
> you to what you love faster than ever before. That's why we are taking steps 
> to upgrade our network. We're sorry but the phone you recently tried to 
> activate won't work. Don't worry. We can help you upgrade at 
> att_com/upgradehelp. Retiring 3G network.
> 
> I then removed the SIM card from that phone and put it back in my iPhone 7, 
> but I could no longer make calls or access the internet with that SIM, not 
> even when I put it in my iPhone SE 2020 and gave it a try.
> 
> Using my other phone line, it took me a bit to look around in the My AT app 
> and online at their web site to finally find the message that that particular 
> phone line had been suspended due to an unknown phone, and that I either 
> needed to give AT a call or do a chat with them to get things resolved, so 
> I opted for the online chat.
> 
> It took a bit of time, but my phone line got reactivated, he told me he would 
> waive the $30 activation fee, and then he told me something like to not 
> remove the SIM card again or it would stop my service again. When I pressed 
> him about always being able to move the SIM between my phones in the past and 
> that I needed to use the Nokia phone to do the iCloud backups for my iPhones 
> and that I had other iPhones that I would also use from time to time, he said 
> he would check further and then told me I could swap my SIM and use it with 
> my Nokia 6. I haven't yet tried the Nokia again, though, not wanting to risk 
> that just yet. Oh, and while he told me it could take up to a half hour to 
> reactivate the number, it was actually done within about five minutes and I 
> was able to use the same SIM card, although I was afraid I would have to wait 
> and have them send me a new one.
> 
> In case anyone is interested, I'll paste a copy of the chat I had below, and 
> I've hopefully removed all of my account information. Also, if some of this 
> doesn't appear to read quite correctly, it could be because I've opted to 
> open the message containing the copy of the chat on my U2 Mini and all the 
> line breaks and things may not have transferred over:
> 
> Reference Number: 731940635884434720 
> DATE/TIME: 2021-02-08 07:05:15 
> Your chat transcript:
> PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE - All replies are automatically deleted.
> AT : Hi, I'm AT's automated virtual assistant. How can I help you today? 
> Me : I need to reactivate my xxx number that got suspended because of an 
> unknown device. I'm guessing it happened bec

AT suspending service to number when inserting SIM card into older phone

[Vicky Collins]

Has anyone ever had this happen before? I'm not sure whether it was just a 
technical glitch or if it could happen again or what, as I never got a straight 
answer from the person I did the online chat with at AT

As I've mentioned previously, since my only internet is on my phones or via 
personal hotspot with my phones, and I can only backup my iPhones to iCloud 
using my Nokia 6 Android phone, I proceeded to put my SIM card in that Nokia 6 
and backup one of my phones yesterday. But, this time, although I tried several 
times after enabling the hotspot feature on the Nokia, I just couldn't seem to 
get the backup on the iPhone to complete. I then finally noticed a message on 
my Android phone, a free message from AT that said something like: 7535 AT 
free msg. We're always looking for ways to connect you to what you love faster 
than ever before. That's why we are taking steps to upgrade our network. We're 
sorry but the phone you recently tried to activate won't work. Don't worry. We 
can help you upgrade at att_com/upgradehelp. Retiring 3G network.

I then removed the SIM card from that phone and put it back in my iPhone 7, but 
I could no longer make calls or access the internet with that SIM, not even 
when I put it in my iPhone SE 2020 and gave it a try.

Using my other phone line, it took me a bit to look around in the My AT app 
and online at their web site to finally find the message that that particular 
phone line had been suspended due to an unknown phone, and that I either needed 
to give AT a call or do a chat with them to get things resolved, so I opted 
for the online chat.

It took a bit of time, but my phone line got reactivated, he told me he would 
waive the $30 activation fee, and then he told me something like to not remove 
the SIM card again or it would stop my service again. When I pressed him about 
always being able to move the SIM between my phones in the past and that I 
needed to use the Nokia phone to do the iCloud backups for my iPhones and that 
I had other iPhones that I would also use from time to time, he said he would 
check further and then told me I could swap my SIM and use it with my Nokia 6. 
I haven't yet tried the Nokia again, though, not wanting to risk that just yet. 
Oh, and while he told me it could take up to a half hour to reactivate the 
number, it was actually done within about five minutes and I was able to use 
the same SIM card, although I was afraid I would have to wait and have them 
send me a new one.

In case anyone is interested, I'll paste a copy of the chat I had below, and 
I've hopefully removed all of my account information. Also, if some of this 
doesn't appear to read quite correctly, it could be because I've opted to open 
the message containing the copy of the chat on my U2 Mini and all the line 
breaks and things may not have transferred over:

Reference Number: 731940635884434720 
DATE/TIME: 2021-02-08 07:05:15 
Your chat transcript:
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE - All replies are automatically deleted.
AT : Hi, I'm AT's automated virtual assistant. How can I help you today? 
Me : I need to reactivate my xxx number that got suspended because of an 
unknown device. I'm guessing it happened because I, as I have done many times 
before, put the SIM card in my Nokia 6 so I could use the hotspot service on 
that device to backup my Apple devices to iCloud. 
AT : 
We found the following information which could be helpful:
How do I transfer my number to a new phone?

Me : That did xxx help in this case. 
AT : 
Hmmm. Could you rephrase your question? Virtual Assistants understand simple 
questions best.

Me : I need to get the suspension lifted from my device. 
AT : 
Choose a topic to chat about: 
Billing, usage, plans & device settings
Payments
Troubleshooting & repairs
Online account & sign-in help
International support
Shopping
Order status

Me : Billing, usage, plans & device settings 
AT : 
Please tell us your first name.
Me : Vicky 
AT : 
Thank y.. You will now be connected to a specialist for account support.
Roy : Hi! My name is Roy. I'm happy to help! Please give me a moment to review 
your request. 
Roy : I am Happy to have you on the chat, I will help you with your concern. 
Me : Thank you so much. 
Roy : To make sure I have the most accurate information for you today, I'm 
going to ask a few quick questions. 
Me : Okay. 
Roy : Are you logged onto your account? 
Me : Yes. 
Roy : Can I get your permission to access your online account? 
Me : Sure, yes. 
Roy : Thank you, Vicky 
Me : You're welcome. 
Roy : Let me quickly pull your account. 
Me : Okay. 
Roy : Sure, I will help you with the reactivate the line. 
Me : Thanks.. 
Roy : You're welcome. 
Roy : Meanwhile I am working on it, As a friendly How was your weekend? 
Me : Just fine, thanks. Yours? 
Roy : Good with friends. 
Roy : Could you please confirm me the line number of the reactivation device? 
Me : removed number 
Roy : Thanks for the info! 
Me : Sure, I had to go 

Re: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

 device to your new iPhone or iPad.
If you have an Apple Watch and you're setting up a new iPhone, you'll be asked 
if you'd like to transfer your Apple Watch data and settings. 
Keep your devices near each other and plugged in to power until the iPhone data 
migration process is complete. Transfer times can vary based on factors such as 
the connection type that you're using, network conditions, and the amount of 
data being transferred.
Migrate data from your iPhone using a wired connection
You might choose the wired method if the wireless network that you're using is 
slow or congested. To migrate data from one iPhone to another using a wired 
connection, get a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter and a Lightning to USB 
Cable, then follow these steps:
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to power through its Lightning 
port. Make sure to use a 12W or higher power adapter.
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to your current iPhone.
Plug the Lightning to USB Cable into your new iPhone, then connect the other 
end to the adapter.
Continue by following the steps above.
Migrating data using a wired connection is supported on iPhone only.

Finish up
After you transfer to your new iOS or iPadOS device, you might need to complete 
a few more steps to finish the process. Make sure that you set up and transfer 
your content to your new device before you sell or give away your previous iOS 
or iPadOS device.

Still need help?
If you can't activate your iPhone, learn what to do.
If you need more help, contact Apple Support.
 
* If your new iPhone is enrolled in Apple School Manager or Apple Business 
Manager, you can't use Quick Start to transfer data from your current iPhone.
Published Date: October 09, 2020


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:31 am
Subject: RE: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone

>
>
> I think they were concerned that since their only internet is the personal 
> hotspot on their phone it would not work.
> I'm guessing, but I don't know, that the wireless transfer uses Bluetooth, 
> but maybe it does require WiFi.
> I jut know the wireless method worked like a champ for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper "his 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone
> 
> Why wouldn't you want to do the direct wireless transfer method, it works 
> perfectly.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone
> 
> Hi Vicky,
> So, you do not have a WiFi network?
> If not, I'd call Apple Accessibility and have them explain this wired 
> transfer method.
> I had never heard of it until someone asked about it recently.
> I have that adapter for use with thumb drives.
> Maybe I should connect my old SE 1st generation with my new SE 2020 and see 
> what happens.
> But, reading what you posted, it seems to me there are steps missing?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper "his 
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C3202ecbae524448e4aa208d87695ac46%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637389732490156333sdata=%2B%2BGQRzHW4MrkkP0faogytlcaEigMekpyO8gPNmjFxrE%3Dreserved=0
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone
> 
> I've read and reread this, and I just can't figure it out. But since my only 
> internet is with my iPhone's personal hotspot, and seeing as I'm looking at 
> getting the iPhone 12 Mini when it 

wired transfer of data from old to new iPhone

[Vicky Collins]

I've read and reread this, and I just can't figure it out. But since my only 
internet is with my iPhone's personal hotspot, and seeing as I'm looking at 
getting the iPhone 12 Mini when it is available, I'm trying to figure out how 
to transfer my data to the new iPhone without using iTunes. Is the below saying 
that I actually need two Lightning to USB cables?

Here is the excerpt I'm talking about, although I believe the links in the 
article won't transfer as I copied this to my U2 Mini notetaker to send, taken 
from:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216

Migrate data from your iPhone using a wired connection
You might choose the wired method if the wireless network that you're using is 
slow or congested. To migrate data from one iPhone to another using a wired 
connection, get a Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter and a Lightning to USB 
Cable, then follow these steps:
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to power through its Lightning 
port. Make sure to use a 12W or higher power adapter.
Connect the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter to your current iPhone.
Plug the Lightning to USB Cable into your new iPhone, then connect the other 
end to the adapter.
Continue by following the steps above.

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Re: iPhone and personal hotspot

[Vicky Collins]

 Settings, Cellular, Personal Hotspot, but the feature does need to be enabled 
by your carrier. Then, if memory serves, once it is enabled and then turned on 
by you, that is when you can also get to the feature by going to Settings and 
finding Personal Hotspot without having to go into the Cellular menu. Then, 
once turned on and all, you can search for your iPhone with other devices. To 
use this over Wi-Fi, of course, the Wi-Fi would need to be turned on for both 
devices.

- Original Message -
From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Monday, October 7, 2019 10:57 am
Subject: Re: iPhone and personal hotspot

>
>
> Does any one know how you can find the why fy hot spot feature  on the I 
> phone?
> 
> > On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:58 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> > 
> > I've eluded to this before, but I've decided to directly pose the question, 
> > just in case someone here has any ideas. The short question is, I'm trying 
> > to figure out why I can use the hotspot feature on my Nokia 6 to backup my 
> > iPhones to iCloud, or update the iOS version, for that matter, but I can't 
> > use the hotspot feature on one iPhone to backup or upgrade another iPhone.
> > 
> > More specifically, I have an iPhone 7 and an iPhone 8 Plus, and I have 
> > separate and active SIM cards for each. I tried for several days to upgrade 
> > over the air each of the phones to iOS 13.1.2 using either the regular 
> > personal hotspot feature or the instant hotspot one. And, while I could 
> > connect to the other phone via Wi-Fi hotspot without a problem and start 
> > the update process, either phone would always hang at the update requested 
> > screen, still doing so after I reset network settings and restarted the 
> > phones. But, when I removed the SIM card from one of the phones and put it 
> > in my Nokia 6 and started the update process, the update downloaded and 
> > installed without a problem on the phone from which I had removed the SIM. 
> > So I then updated my other iPhone the same way, but didn't need to remove 
> > its SIM card, since I had already put the other phone's SIM in the Nokia.
> > 
> > I also had the same problem when trying to backup my phones to iCloud, as I 
> > just got a message about a poor network connection when I connected via 
> > hotspot with either iPhone. However, once again, I tried the backup with my 
> > Nokia 6, and both iPhones backed up to iCloud just fine with that Wi-Fi 
> > hotspot.
> > Now, as I did with the update to iOS 13.1.1, I could have connected the 
> > phones to my computer and used the iPhone hotspot with my PC to update via 
> > iTunes, but that process took forever with each phone, and it also took a 
> > great deal of my high-speed data, since the full version needed to be 
> > downloaded for each phone. Oh, again, just as a reminder, at least for the 
> > moment, I have chosen to stick with AT and opt for a second line and use 
> > hotspot data, rather than switch to Spectrum to get their internet service.
> > 
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iPhone and personal hotspot

[Vicky Collins]

I've eluded to this before, but I've decided to directly pose the question, 
just in case someone here has any ideas. The short question is, I'm trying to 
figure out why I can use the hotspot feature on my Nokia 6 to backup my iPhones 
to iCloud, or update the iOS version, for that matter, but I can't use the 
hotspot feature on one iPhone to backup or upgrade another iPhone.

More specifically, I have an iPhone 7 and an iPhone 8 Plus, and I have separate 
and active SIM cards for each. I tried for several days to upgrade over the air 
each of the phones to iOS 13.1.2 using either the regular personal hotspot 
feature or the instant hotspot one. And, while I could connect to the other 
phone via Wi-Fi hotspot without a problem and start the update process, either 
phone would always hang at the update requested screen, still doing so after I 
reset network settings and restarted the phones. But, when I removed the SIM 
card from one of the phones and put it in my Nokia 6 and started the update 
process, the update downloaded and installed without a problem on the phone 
from which I had removed the SIM. So I then updated my other iPhone the same 
way, but didn't need to remove its SIM card, since I had already put the other 
phone's SIM in the Nokia.

I also had the same problem when trying to backup my phones to iCloud, as I 
just got a message about a poor network connection when I connected via hotspot 
with either iPhone. However, once again, I tried the backup with my Nokia 6, 
and both iPhones backed up to iCloud just fine with that Wi-Fi hotspot.
Now, as I did with the update to iOS 13.1.1, I could have connected the phones 
to my computer and used the iPhone hotspot with my PC to update via iTunes, but 
that process took forever with each phone, and it also took a great deal of my 
high-speed data, since the full version needed to be downloaded for each phone. 
Oh, again, just as a reminder, at least for the moment, I have chosen to stick 
with AT and opt for a second line and use hotspot data, rather than switch to 
Spectrum to get their internet service.

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Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making many phone calls

[Vicky Collins]

With my iPhone 7, once I end a call, I get the clicks but no VoiceOver. In my 
case, though, at least so far, I ask Siri to turn off VoiceOver, hear the 
message that VoiceOver is off, then ask Siri to turn on VoiceOver, and the 
phone works as normal. Since I use my iPhone as my primary phone, since it is 
smaller, I haven't yet tried it enough to know with my 8 Plus.

- Original Message -
From: Mike Arrigo  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after making 
many phone calls

>
>
> For what it's worth, a friend of mine has also experienced this issue 
> with an iphone 7, because of this issue and the fact that nearby 
> explorer currently does not work, I'm holding off on the upgrade for now.
> Original message:
> > Here is the reply I received from Apple Accessibility:
> 
> > Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let 
> > you know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot 
> > comment on when it may be resolved.
> 
> > Let's hope it gets resolved soon. Whenever the next update comes out 
> > and this is still not resolved I certainly plan to send another email 
> > as well as call, they need to understand that this is a fairly critical 
> > issue and they simply have to resolve it promptly.
> 
> > Regards,
> > Sieghard
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:18 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after 
> > making many phone calls
> 
> > It happens when you make a face time call
> 
> >> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:16 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> >> Well, on my iPhone X I could not reproduce this bug. Maybe I don't make 
> >> enough phone calls. Does this bug include FaceTime calls? Let's see if 
> >> I can reproduce this on my 11 Pro.
> 
> >> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and 
> >> I will happily add you.
> >> maria2...@gmail.com
> 
> >>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 3:24 AM, 'Angelina Stabile' via VIPhone 
> >>>  wrote:
> 
> >>> "The same thing happened to me. I reported this bug to Apple. They are 
> >>> working on it.
> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On Sep 30, 2019, at 2:36 AM, Chantal Ferreira 
>   wrote:
> 
>  "The same thing has happened to me. But the suggestions of phoning
>  my phone or turning it off and on has not helped.
> 
>  The strange thing is that I can bring up Siri and get the feedback
>  and then when I'm on the Siri screen VoiceOver works. But the minute
>  I go back to the home screen, nothing.
> 
>  I have no idea what else to do.
> 
>  Any other suggestions.
> 
>  Kind regards
> 
>  Chantal
> 
> >> On 9/30/19, karuna Chopra  wrote:
> > Yes! You are absolutely right! I have had this happening to me at
> > least three or four times a day! Not only is it very and Irving,
> > but I also end up wasting a lot of time. Often times I have to get
> > cited help to get my phone back up and running! Very very frustrating!
> 
> 
> >>> On 30-Sep-2019, at 2:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> > his
> > All I can say is to bombard Apple Accessibility wit emails about ithis.
> 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> > Of ke...@kellford.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:11 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessibil...@apple.com
> > Subject: RE: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop
> > after making many phone calls
> 
> > I get this also with more than a few calls I've made with iOS 13 and 
> > 13.1.
> > Just yesterday it happened on three successive calls for example.
> 
> > Kelly
> 
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> > Of Sieghard Weitzel
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 3:24 PM
> > To: 'accessibilitythpple_com' 
> > Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Voiceover, all system sounds an d vibrations stop after
> > making many phone calls
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> > I have been an iOS/IDevice user since 2009 when the iPhone 3GS and
> > the third Gen iPod Touch were first released with Voiceover and I
> > have also been beta testing new iOS releases for many years.
> 
> > I started Beta testing iOS 13 almost since the start of the public
> > beta program and already experienced the issue I mentioned in the
> > subject line throughout the beta cycle.
> > I as well as other Voiceover beta testers I know have reported
> > this via the Feedback app during the beta cycle. I am sure given
> > how many other Voiceover users experience this, it has also been
> > reported to Apple Accessibility since the official release.
> > I will also CC this to the Viphone list where visually impaired
> > users discuss iOS and iOS devices so they can forward this 

Re: knowing where you are in a list of emails

[Vicky Collins]

Are others having the same issue?

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"   
Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 12:39 pm
Subject: RE: knowing where you are in a list of emails

>
>
> I would report it to Apple Accessibility
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: knowing where you are in a list of emails
> 
> Since iOS 13, I no longer am able to see where I am in a list of emails. For 
> example, if I'm in the trash folder and am scrolling through the list, either 
> by swiping or using the vertical scroll bar, it just gives a page number 
> range but doesn't say 36 of 50 or 2 of 10 when on a message. Or, grin, my 
> memory is failing me here. Perhaps it didn't give the number for the specific 
> message but just the range of messages on the specific screen, like 23 to 42 
> of 50. But, either way, that information seems to be missing for me now.
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Re: iPhone SE battery

[Vicky Collins]

Great about your 99 percent! Oh, seeing as AT doesn't provide internet 
service here in my rural area and I want to stay with them, I used the personal 
hotspot feature for all of my computer or braille notetaker internet needs. And 
using that really drains the battery. It probably didn't help any that I would 
leave the hotspot turned on, even when I wasn't using it, thus making it easier 
to connect when I was ready. But, especially now with having two separate phone 
lines, it's amazing to see just how much longer my battery lasts on the phone 
when I have the hotspot turned off.

- Original Message -
From: Carolyn Arnold  <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 10:04 am
Subject: RE: iPhone SE battery

>
>
> I bought my new SE a year and a half ago, and recent checked showed peak 
> battery at 99 percent. I don't know why there should be such a difference. Of 
> course, our phone habits might be different. I talk as much as I want to, 
> sometimes several hours a day, ask Siri for a lot of information, do some 
> texting and rare emailing on it. Two hours each day, I do a tinnitus 
> treatment program using Bluetooth. The only reason I'm saying all of this is 
> to get some kind of idea about battery. My SE is a 32 gb. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Vicky Collins
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 1:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone SE battery
> 
> As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but haven't 
> yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my question here is, is 
> it worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, or am I doing her a 
> disservice in the end because of the lower battery capacity?
> 
> Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as you go 
> phone from AT, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a signal in her house 
> in the rural area where we live, I purchased a used iPhone 7 from one of the 
> blindness lists , thinking to give it to her. However, grin, I made the 
> mistake of giving her the choice between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she 
> preferred the smaller SE.
> 
> I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's account, and 
> he needs to go to the AT store here to get her the new SIM card for the 
> phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. I did, though, confirm 
> that the phone would indeed work at her house. And, just before I reset the 
> phone to factory defaults, I checked its battery health, and the maximum 
> capacity given for that phone was 81 percent. It did say that the battery was 
> supporting normal peak performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source 
> of internet right now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet ready 
> to leave AT, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE any good. I 
> purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year ago, so guess I'll 
> have to watch my battery care a bit better with my future phones.
> 
> As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT store a while back 
> and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my AT Unlimited and 
> more Premium plan, we discussed both the second line or adding some sort of 
> wireless hotspot device to my one-line plan. If memory serves, the rep told 
> me that, if I were to choose the wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, 
> a home phone number but I wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could 
> either pay the $200 for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly 
> payments. So, since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the 
> second line with its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I 
> can just cancel this second line at any time.
> 
> Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 6 to 
> backup my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't use this same 
> feature on one iPhone to backup the other, even though each iPhone has its 
> own SIM card now, something about poor network conditions. Wonder if I 
> should've gotten that wireless device instead, and why the Nokia will let me 
> backup with the hotspot feature while the iPhone won't?
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knowing where you are in a list of emails

[Vicky Collins]

Since iOS 13, I no longer am able to see where I am in a list of emails. For 
example, if I'm in the trash folder and am scrolling through the list, either 
by swiping or using the vertical scroll bar, it just gives a page number range 
but doesn't say 36 of 50 or 2 of 10 when on a message. Or, grin, my memory is 
failing me here. Perhaps it didn't give the number for the specific message but 
just the range of messages on the specific screen, like 23 to 42 of 50. But, 
either way, that information seems to be missing for me now.

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Re: iPhone SE battery

[Vicky Collins]

Thanks all for the responses.

Yeah, I did read some of the articles about 80 percent not being so good. 
However, since my sister doesn't drive and we aren't near an Apple store, 
anyway, I figure by the time I paid for a cab to go to the post office, paid 
shipping both ways, and paid for the replacement, I may as well try to see if I 
can find her a used SE somewhere with a better battery. I've been trying for 
about six weeks now to get my brother to go to AT to get the SIM exchanged, 
but he just doesn't get in any hurry. But maybe I'll see if they still have any 
refurbish SE phones at AT, as it can't hurt to ask. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Monday, September 30, 2019 2:01 am
Subject: RE: iPhone SE battery

>
>
> And 81% is not actually so good. When I went to Apple last year with my 6S 
> Plus for their battery replacement offer my battery's capacity was at 84% and 
> they said I would definitely qualify for the $35 Canadian battery replacement 
> they offered until the end of last year.
> But even at the regular price your sister would probably get a lot more 
> enjoyment out of your old iPhone SE if you or she were to get the battery 
> replaced.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
> brown
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE battery
> 
> She would honestly be fine with the SE
> 
> On 9/30/19, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> > As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but 
> > haven't yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my 
> > question here is, is it worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, 
> > or am I doing her a disservice in the end because of the lower battery 
> > capacity?
> >
> > Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as 
> > you go phone from AT, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a 
> > signal in her house in the rural area where we live, I purchased a 
> > used iPhone 7 from one of the blindness lists , thinking to give it to 
> > her. However, grin, I made the mistake of giving her the choice 
> > between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she preferred the smaller SE.
> >
> > I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's 
> > account, and he needs to go to the AT store here to get her the new 
> > SIM card for the phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. 
> > I did, though, confirm that the phone would indeed work at her house. 
> > And, just before I reset the phone to factory defaults, I checked its 
> > battery health, and the maximum capacity given for that phone was 81 
> > percent. It did say that the battery was supporting normal peak 
> > performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source of internet right 
> > now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet ready to leave 
> > AT, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE any good. I 
> > purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year ago, so guess 
> > I'll have to watch my battery care a bit better with my future phones.
> >
> > As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT store a 
> > while back and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my 
> > AT Unlimited and more Premium plan, we discussed both the second 
> > line or adding some sort of wireless hotspot device to my one-line 
> > plan. If memory serves, the rep told me that, if I were to choose the 
> > wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, a home phone number but I 
> > wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could either pay the $200 
> > for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly payments. So, 
> > since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the second line 
> > with its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I can just 
> > cancel this second line at any time.
> >
> > Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 
> > 6 to backup my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't 
> > use this same feature on one iPhone to backup the other, even though 
> > each iPhone has its own SIM card now, something about poor network 
> > conditions. Wonder if I should've gotten that wireless device instead, 
> > and why the Nokia will let me backup with the hotspot feature while the 
> > iPhone won't?
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iPhone SE battery

[Vicky Collins]

As you can tell, I do tend to switch iPhone's from time to time, but haven't 
yet ventured into trying the ones with face ID. But, my question here is, is it 
worth me giving my old iPhone SE to my sister, or am I doing her a disservice 
in the end because of the lower battery capacity?

Anyway, since my sighted sister is using a four-year-old $19 pay as you go 
phone from AT, a 3G phone where she can no longer get a signal in her house 
in the rural area where we live, I purchased a used iPhone 7 from one of the 
blindness lists , thinking to give it to her. However, grin, I made the mistake 
of giving her the choice between my iPhone SE and the 7, and she preferred the 
smaller SE.

I haven't yet given her the phone because she is on my brother's account, and 
he needs to go to the AT store here to get her the new SIM card for the 
phone, since the phone she has now takes a micro SIM. I did, though, confirm 
that the phone would indeed work at her house. And, just before I reset the 
phone to factory defaults, I checked its battery health, and the maximum 
capacity given for that phone was 81 percent. It did say that the battery was 
supporting normal peak performance. As I've mentioned previously, my source of 
internet right now is via personal hotspot, my choice as I'm not yet ready to 
leave AT, and I guess it didn't do the battery on the SE any good. I 
purchased the phone new from Amazon a little over a year ago, so guess I'll 
have to watch my battery care a bit better with my future phones.

As a side note for anyone still reading, I did go to AT store a while back 
and get a SIM card for a second line for myself. With my AT Unlimited and 
more Premium plan, we discussed both the second line or adding some sort of 
wireless hotspot device to my one-line plan. If memory serves, the rep told me 
that, if I were to choose the wireless device, I would get 50 GB of data, a 
home phone number but I wouldn't necessarily have to use it, and I could either 
pay the $200 for the hotspot device, or I could pay it off in monthly payments. 
So, since I already had a second iPhone, I just opted for the second line with 
its additional 15 GB of mobile hotspot. And, of course, I can just cancel this 
second line at any time.

Oh, one more side note, even though I can use the hotspot on my Nokia 6 to 
backup my iPhones to iCloud here at my apartment, I still can't use this same 
feature on one iPhone to backup the other, even though each iPhone has its own 
SIM card now, something about poor network conditions. Wonder if I should've 
gotten that wireless device instead, and why the Nokia will let me backup with 
the hotspot feature while the iPhone won't?

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number of personal hotspot connections not being shown in iOS 13

[Vicky Collins]

Running iOS 13.1.1, I no longer am able to see the number of personal hotspot 
connections with my iPhone. Sometimes, I may have my computer and my Braille 
Sense notetaker or my other iPhone using the other iPhone's hotspot connection. 
In iOS 12.4, I could see the number of devices that were using this hotspot 
connection, as the number showed up in the status bar on the phone. Now, when I 
check the status bar, I just see personal hotspot active. It's not a big deal, 
but it was kind of nice to know just how many of my devices were using that 
connection at the time.

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Re: Not Getting Mail Tone

[Vicky Collins]

With my iPhone 7 and 8 Plus, both now running iOS 13.1.1, I don't hear the new 
message tone when I first open the app and the messages come in. Well, let me 
clarify a bit here. Most often, I download the email to my blindness notetaker 
where it is set to delete the messages from the server, read the messages, and 
then open the email app on my iPhone to then permanently clear the messages 
from the trash.

So, when I would open the mail program on my iPhone running iOS 12.4, the trash 
folder would open, the messages would download, and the tone would then play. 
Now, with iOS 13, when the mail program opens on my phone, it opens to the 
inbox, which is usually empty. I then switch to the trash folder, the messages 
then download, but no sound plays. However, if in the meantime a new mail 
should come into the inbox on the phone, then the new mail tone will indeed 
play.

Also, for some reason, when I delete the messages from the trash on my phones, 
not all of them delete the first time, and I have to do the select all and 
delete again to get the remaining few messages, usually older messages and 
under 10 in number.

- Original Message -
From: Carolyn Arnold  <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 29, 2019 8:40 pm
Subject: RE: Not Getting Mail Tone

>
>
> I hear it on my SE, just did tonight. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 6:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Not Getting Mail Tone
> 
> I finally heard it, so disregard my message please.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:42 PM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > "I haven't heard that tone and I don't know how long. I haven't heard it on 
> > my iPhone 8 which I've had for several months, and before that, I don't 
> > know the last time I heard it on my iPhone 6.
> > Dacia
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Sep 29, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Baker  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I went to sounds to make sure that the mail sound I want is selected but I 
> >> don't hear it when I get mail. I am using an iPhone 6S plus with the 
> >> latest update. Anything else I should do? Thank you.
> >> 
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cell service on the iPhone 11 versus on the 11 Pros

[Vicky Collins]

In looking at the tech specs for the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 11 Pro series, 
under the Cellular and Wireless heading for All Models, it shows Gigabit-class 
LTE With 4x4 MIMO and LAA for the Pros and Gigabit-class LTE With 2x2 MIMO and 
LAA for the 11. Do you think this will make much difference when using the 
phones?

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Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app

[Vicky Collins]

 I'm kind of new to all this myself. But best I can tell, if you have a 
subscription to Kindle Unlimited, $9.99 a month in the United States, then you 
can download the books that are currently available through that program 
directly through the Kindle app. After all, grin, you would have paid your 
subscription to read them, or be on the 30 day trial as I am. Then too, and I 
found this out kind of by accident, but you can also download books available 
through the Prime Reading program directly through the Kindle app. The free 
Prime Reading option is a benefit given to Prime members. You aren't actually 
buying the books in both of these cases, you are just borrowing them, but there 
is no due date to return them. I don't know how many books you can borrow at a 
time with Prime Reading, but they say you can have as many as 10 at a time with 
Kindle Unlimited. Then once you return some or all of the books you borrowed, 
you are free to get more books. Since only certain books are available through 
these programs, and what's available may very well change from time to time, it 
is quite possible that the book you want to read may not be available through 
one or both of these programs. Then you would need to go to the web browser if 
you wanted to then purchase the book.

- Original Message -
From:  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 12, 2018 4:58 pm
Subject: RE: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app

>
>
> I didn't think you could download kindle books directly from within the 
> kindle app.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app
> 
> Although I passed on the Prime Day deals for it, I did decide to get the 
> 30-day trial of Kindle Unlimited. And subscribing to it does let one download 
> the books available in that program directly to their device. I haven't yet 
> decided whether to cancel my subscription before I'm charged for the next 
> month, or keep it a while longer. Also, based on what has happened in prior 
> years, Amazon may again offer a deal on the Kindle Unlimited around Black 
> Friday. So I'll try to remember to watch around that time, assuming I'm still 
> interested.
> - Original Message -
> From: Russ Kiehne  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 12, 2018 9:18 am
> Subject: Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app
> 
> >
> >
> > Here is how I buy Kindle books.  From the book: Kindle for iOS 
> > Accessibility Gestures - Quick Reference Guide
> >  
> > Kindle Store: Buy & Download to your iOS Device
> >  
> > You can shop from the Kindle Store using the Safari browser and deliver 
> > Kindle titles to the Kindle reading app on your iPad, iPhone, or iPod 
> > touch. Your device must be connected to a wireless or data network in order 
> > to download Kindle content to your Kindle reading app.
> >  
> > From the Safari browser, visit the Kindle Store website:
> >  
> > . iPad: www.amazon.com/ipadkindlestore
> >  
> > . iPhone or iPod touch: www.amazon.com/kindlemobilestore
> >  
> > 1. Sign in to the Kindle Store with the same Amazon account you used when 
> > you registered the Kindle reading app. Browse for Kindle titles you want to 
> > read, and then tap to view the product detail page.
> >  
> > 2. To send the Kindle title to your device, from the Send wirelessly to 
> > drop-down menu, select your device. If you don't see your device, make sure 
> > you signed in with the Amazon account registered to your iPad, iPhone, or 
> > iPod touch.
> >  
> > 3. Tip: Tap Try a Sample to download the beginning of a book for free.
> >  
> > 4. After you purchase content, your titles are delivered to the Kindle app 
> > on your iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch. Check your cloud tab.
> >  
> > From: Matthew Bullis 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 8:45 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app
> >  
> > As far as I've known, there hasn't been a button to purchase from the app 
> > ever. The issue is that if an app sells something, then Apple gets a 
> > portion, and so Amazon directs you to its website.
> > Matthew
> >  
> > 
> > On Aug 11, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > There appears to be no button for purchasing books any longer; besides 
> > trying on the website, has anyone else found a workaround?
> >  
> > Thank you.
> >  
> > Paul Ferrara
> > - 
> > The f

Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app

[Vicky Collins]

Although I passed on the Prime Day deals for it, I did decide to get the 30-day 
trial of Kindle Unlimited. And subscribing to it does let one download the 
books available in that program directly to their device. I haven't yet decided 
whether to cancel my subscription before I'm charged for the next month, or 
keep it a while longer. Also, based on what has happened in prior years, Amazon 
may again offer a deal on the Kindle Unlimited around Black Friday. So I'll try 
to remember to watch around that time, assuming I'm still interested.
- Original Message -
From: Russ Kiehne  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 12, 2018 9:18 am
Subject: Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app

>
>
> Here is how I buy Kindle books.  From the book: Kindle for iOS Accessibility 
> Gestures - Quick Reference Guide
>  
> Kindle Store: Buy & Download to your iOS Device
>  
> You can shop from the Kindle Store using the Safari browser and deliver 
> Kindle titles to the Kindle reading app on your iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch. 
> Your device must be connected to a wireless or data network in order to 
> download Kindle content to your Kindle reading app.
>  
> From the Safari browser, visit the Kindle Store website:
>  
> . iPad: www.amazon.com/ipadkindlestore
>  
> . iPhone or iPod touch: www.amazon.com/kindlemobilestore
>  
> 1. Sign in to the Kindle Store with the same Amazon account you used when you 
> registered the Kindle reading app. Browse for Kindle titles you want to read, 
> and then tap to view the product detail page.
>  
> 2. To send the Kindle title to your device, from the Send wirelessly to 
> drop-down menu, select your device. If you don't see your device, make sure 
> you signed in with the Amazon account registered to your iPad, iPhone, or 
> iPod touch.
>  
> 3. Tip: Tap Try a Sample to download the beginning of a book for free.
>  
> 4. After you purchase content, your titles are delivered to the Kindle app on 
> your iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch. Check your cloud tab.
>  
> From: Matthew Bullis 
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: cannot buy Kindle books using the Amazon app
>  
> As far as I've known, there hasn't been a button to purchase from the app 
> ever. The issue is that if an app sells something, then Apple gets a portion, 
> and so Amazon directs you to its website.
> Matthew
>  
> 
> On Aug 11, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
> 
> 
> There appears to be no button for purchasing books any longer; besides trying 
> on the website, has anyone else found a workaround?
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Paul Ferrara
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Re: question about what made those of you select the iPhone 10 overthe 8 or 8 plus

[Vicky Collins]

I'm not for sure where you are located, but Apple still do sell 
the iPhone 6S plus.  Or at least I do see it being available with 
the Apple Store app here in the United States.  However, I don't 
think I would pay the $549 for the 32GB or $649 for the 128GB for 
a device released in 2015.


- Original Message -
From: lenron brown  wrote:



 I agree that I would wait unless your phone is about to die.  
Their are
rumors that apple will have three new phones out this year.  Two 
of them may
replace the ten but at a different price point.  I have had my 
ten since it
came out.  My son wants a ten but the price point is high.  I 
love the ten but
I would wait if the phone would survive.  As the previous email 
stated, there
is no home button so there is a curb to learn the gestures.  
Also facial I'd
is different but easier as you use it.  The gestures are second 
nature for me

and honestly would not want to go back to a home button.








On Apr 30, 2018 at 10:26,  (mailto:siegh...@live.ca)

wrote:



 The iPhone X has no more home button at all, if you are in an 
app and
want to get back to the home screen you can't just p[ress a 
button any
more, you have to touch the screen at the bottom near where the 
home
button used to be and then do a swipe up gesture, same applies 
for the app
switcher, instead of a double press of the home buttton it is 
also a swipe

gesture.
At this point I would not buy a new iPhone at all unless your 
old one has
completely given up the ghost or is about to do so and you 
absolutely need
a new phone now.  In 6 weeks or so it's Apple's developer 
conference which
is when iOS 12 will be introduced and information about th enew 
phones
this fall will start coming out soon, yes they will be rumours,, 
but in
the last years many of the rumours which came out in the last 3 
months or
so before the new phones were released were pretty accurate so 
in another
2 months or so we have a very good idea what is coming.  The 
iPhone X did
not do nearly as well for Apple as I am sure they had hoped and 
I wouldn't

be surprised if last year's iPhone X is going to be completely
discontinued this fall with iPhone 8 and 8 Plus remaining but of 
course at
a lower price, then maybe the iPhone 7 will also stay as an 
entry-level
phone and there will of course be the new 8S and 8S Plus or 
whatever they

will be called.  Whether there will be another 4 in
ch phone like the SE is questionable.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com    On 
Behalf Of

Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question about what made those of you select the 
iPhone 10

over the 8 or 8 plus

What are the main gestures differences that are helpful with the 
10? I was
thinking of waiting and getting the second generation SE, but 
might be
willing to spend more money if the 10 is really easier and has 
more

plusses.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Michael Maslo
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 2:38 AM
To: Viphone  

Re: The walmart grocery app

[Vicky Collins]

I kind of wonder the same thing as to why there are two apps.  
But, there are indeed two, and I'll give the link for each, 
followed by its description, at the end of this message.


I use the Walmart app often, and mostly find it easier than the 
web page.  However, when I got a Walmart gift card for Christmas, 
and thus was looking to use that first and then pay the rest with 
my debit card on file, I had to go to the web site to complete 
the order.  For, I just couldn't get the two payment methods to 
work in the app.


As for the grocery app, I installed it, but couldn't do much with 
it yet since the things it offers aren't currently available in 
my area.  Anyway, here are the links and descriptions for each 
app:


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/walmart-shopping-and-saving/id338
137227?mt=8
Description



Our award-winning app saves you time and money.

. Free shipping with no membership fee! Get millions of items 
delivered in as little as 2 days.  Details below.
. Use your phone to pay at the store quickly and safely with 
Walmart Pay.
. Easily reorder the essential items you've purchased at the 
store and online.
. See which items are available - and on which aisle at the 
store.
. Transfer money without the long wait or the paperwork! Instead, 
use the app's Express Money Services.

. Order, transfer, and track prescriptions and refills.
. Faster pickup at the store! Check in from your phone.
. We put the difference from any lower prices in your area on an 
eGift card! Savings Catcher compares your eligible in-store 
purchases for you.


Free shipping info: Orders placed before 2 PM get free shipping 
within 2 business days, not including weekends and holidays.  
Eligible items only.  Min.  order $35.


Save money.  Live better.


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/walmart-grocery/id998754894?mt=8


Description



For a limited time get $10 off your first order of $50 or more.  
Plus, we'll deliver or load the groceries into your car for 
free.


What's available?
Fresh produce, baked goods, meat, pantry items and more.

What's the cost?
Most in-store pickups are free.  Delivery is a little extra.

Where's it available?
Enter your ZIP Code into the app to check availability.

How does it work?
Simply register, select a convenient pickup or delivery time and 
build your basket.


Key features
.  Add items from the app and check out from another device
. Browse or search aisles by department
. Fast reordering with "favorites"
. Convenient pickup and delivery times.  Same-day pickup also 
available.

. No subscription charges, markups or hidden fees.

This app monitors the user's location for no other purpose than 
to provide accurate and timely service.





- Original Message -
From: Bill Gallik  wrote:


Hi Bill, you are explaining the Walmart app, not the Walmart 
grocery app.  The Walmart grocery app is not very accessible.  
Truthfully it is easier to go to Walmart grocery in Safari and do 
your shopping that way at least that is the way I do it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 20, 2018, at 1:45 PM, Bill Gallik > wrote:


While I would have to say that InstaCart is an wonderfully 
accessible app, it is not available except in a few major cities.  
If it were available in northern Wisconsin I’d use it 
frequently.  I was involved in helping a friend from Austin get 
started with this app and she and her husband now use it all the 
time.  Hubby does not have a vision problem, but she is totally 
blind and enjoys using InstaCart, but as I say - it isn’t 
available in northern Wisconsin and maybe not even Milwaukee.


So much for my digression concerning InstaCart and now to the 
point - namely the WalMart app.  I use the WalMart frequently to 
have non-perishables shipped to my very rural address with very 
little trouble.  It is a bit “clumsy” to use for a blind 
person, but by no means impossible.  It would help me 

Re: Favorite Tech Podcasts

[Vicky Collins]

Anyone per chance know in which podcast he first mentioned 
VoiceOver? I thought of writing in and asking him; however, other 
than a partial mention of it for an occasional PayPal donation, 
grin, I'm not keen on having my name given on the podcast.  I 
purchased my first iPhone in 2011, and only started listening 
somewhere around that time.


- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner  wrote:


I like the Today In IOS podcast.  It sometimes is listed as TII.
l It is not VoiceOver specific, but he is very aware of VoiceOver 
and mentions it sometimes.

He has an app to, but you can access it from any podcast player.
His app is completely VoiceOver accessible.  I think it might 
cost something.

But, give an episode a listen and see what you think

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Re: the Schwan's Food Delivery app again

[Vicky Collins]

When I first double tap on the sign in button, or I think the app 
calls it a link, the username edit field is there right away for 
me just to do a double tap.  Then, I am able to start entering my 
email address as my username.  However, should I look around the 
screen a bit while I'm entering that information, I often find 
the edit box for it has disappeared.  Sometimes, I'm even put 
back to the first screen I come to after opening the app, and I 
have to double tap on the sign in link again.  This is what 
happened to me just a few minutes ago when I uninstalled and 
reinstalled the app and had to log in again for the first time.


- Original Message -
From: Liz Ulrich and LD Hope <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:27:23 -0400
Subject: Re: the Schwan's Food Delivery app again


I have tried the latest update, and I can't log in.  When I 
double tap on the user name and password fields, the keyboard 
does not come up.



Sent from my iPhone
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Vicky Collins 
<v-coll...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


Has anyone in the United States tried the Schwan's Food Delivery 
app lately? It isn't perfect now by any means, but it sure is 
much better than it was earlier.  For, so far at least, I've been 
able to do pretty much everything I've tried with the app, 
including reading product preparation instructions and reviewing 
the items in my pending orders, things I couldn't do with the 
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the Schwan's Food Delivery app again

[Vicky Collins]

Has anyone in the United States tried the Schwan's Food Delivery 
app lately? It isn't perfect now by any means, but it sure is 
much better than it was earlier.  For, so far at least, I've been 
able to do pretty much everything I've tried with the app, 
including reading product preparation instructions and reviewing 
the items in my pending orders, things I couldn't do with the 
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removing AND INSERTING sim card

[Vicky Collins]

Does it hurt anything to remove and insert a sim card with the 
iPhone turned on? I have forgotten to turn off the unit a few 
times when moving my sim between phones and things seemed to be 
okay afterward, but I thought I would ask, just in case.


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re: On my iPod touch 6 where do I find the place to sign out in theAmazon app

[Vicky Collins]

I'm using an iPhone, but I'm hoping it will be in about the same 
place on your iPod.  I look for the show navigation menu button 
in the top left hand corner of the screen and double tap on it.  
I then flick right with one finger several times, going past such 
things as your account and your orders and today's deals, along 
the way.  When I finally get to settings, I double tap on it.  I 
then flick to the right just a few times, going past such things 
as country and language and notifications, till I get to 
something that says "Not Vicky? Sign out." I then double tap on 
this and I then get a screen where I can flick just a few times 
to the right to a sign out button and a cancel button and I can 
then double tap on that sign out button.

- Original Message -
From: "Jen ." 

Re: Speaker phone issue

[Vicky Collins]

Same thing happens with my iPhone 8.  However, for now, pressing 
the home button once this happens seems to fix things, until the 
next call of course.


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From: "Richard" 

Re: Has Anyone Updated to iOS 11.2.6 on a Non-iPhone 10 Device?

[Vicky Collins]

My battery indicator is the same with VoiceOver on my iPhone 8 
after updating to iOS 11.2.6.


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner > wrote:


Hi Mark,

I updated an ipHOne 5s, and the battery info works normally, both 
on the status bar and in Battery Settings.


Best,
Anna




On Feb 23, 2018, at 12:08 PM, M.  Taylor 
> wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I have heard some reports that updating to iOS 11.2.6 removes the 
battery
indicator for some users.  I do not know if this issue refers to 
merely the

visual indicator or not.

It may be that, regardless of the visual icon, VoiceOver may 
continue to

read the battery level indicator.

So, if you have a non-iPhone 10, and you have already updated to 
iOS 11.2.6,
please let us know your experience as I do not plan to update 
until I can

confirm that this battery bug does not apply to VoiceOver users.

Please be sure to include which iPhone you are using.

Thank you,

Mark

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RE: Supplementing my iPhone with an iPod: Good Idea?

[Vicky Collins]

I agree with those who say it is a personal choice.  Although I 
have never had an iPod, I have often had more than one iPhone, 
but, in my specific case, pretty much found it not worth the 
trouble to keep up more than one device at a time.  Thus, I would 
wind up giving the older iPhone to a family member within a few 
weeks, rather than waiting several months as I had originally 
planned.


- Original Message -
From: "Ekstrand, Pamela A.  -ND" 
 
wrote:


Definitely no cellular iPod Touch and at this point the newest 
iPod Touch which is the sixth generation was released in July of 
2015.  It has the same processor as an iPhone 6 which was 
released the fall before (in September 2014) and the CPU is the 
A8.
You would be buying technology now which is three generations 
old, the iPod Touch also does not have the same GPS capabilities 
as an iPhone although I don't think that would matter to Craig 
since he would use it primarily at home for books, music etc.
I agree with Christopher, the idea of a second device sounds 
good, but to me it is also not practical for the same reasons, I 
have to spend more time maintaining and upgrading it and all 
that.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia

Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supplementing my iPhone with an iPod: Good Idea?

Craig, if I'm not mistaken, an iPod Touch has all the same 
features of an iPhone, but without the phone app which can be 
easily supplemented by Skype or one of the other internet based 
services.


Mind you, you could only use it in a Wi-Fi environment, as I 
don't believe they have a cellular model of iPod Touch, but I 
could be wrong.


Victor

-Original Message-
From: Craig Werner
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Supplementing my iPhone with an iPod: Good Idea?

Hello, everyone.

Much of what I use my iPhone for can just as well be 
accomplished with an iPod.  I spend a lot of time listening to 
music and e-books, neither of which requires the services of an 
iPhone.  I'm curious to hear from those of you who own both 
devices.  Do you find your are using your iPod often?  Do you 
regret the purchase?


Thank you for all help.

Craig

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RE: Seventh Heaven Apples, Anyone?

[Vicky Collins]

Weren't they offering $50 Apple Store gift cards yesterday for 
the iPhone 7 and 7 plus as part of the black Friday promotion?


- Original Message -
From: "M.  Taylor" 

RE: iPhone SE keyboard keeps on disappearing since iOS 11

[Vicky Collins]

Before updating to iOS 11.1, once I finished my dictation, I was 
able to double tap with one finger and have my dictation 
processed and ready to be dealt with.  But, now when I double tap 
with just the one finger to stop dictation, I always get the 
behavior described below.  However, if I double tap with two 
fingers after finishing dictation, which I believe has been the 
correct way all along, things work as expected and the dictation 
is processed and the keyboard is available.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel > wrote:
I’ve had the exact same issue, and no one seemed to know what I 
was talking about, when I tried to describe it.




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WIRELESS CHARGING, was RE: A Question About Using the Belkin Rock Star Lightening Splitter

[Vicky Collins]

Would you all then leave these wireless charging pads plugged 
into the wall outlet at all times? For some reason, and I have no 
idea why, I always thought one was supposed to unplug a cord from 
the wall when not in use.


- Original Message -
From: "M.  Taylor"  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I just purchased a Rock Star Lightning splitter from the Apple 
Store
but, try as I may, I cannot get it to work on any of my iPhone 
devices

including iPhone 8 Plus, 7 Plus, 6 S Plus, 6 Plus, or 5 S.

Is there some special method for connecting it to a device or do 
I

simply have a bad unit?

I just don't understand.

I plug the adapter into the lightning port of the phone, then, 
insert
the power cable into one port and the Ear Pods into the second 
port.
My result, absolutely nothing.  Just to be certain, I took all 
of my

devices out of their respective cases to insure a snug fit.

All Replies welcome.

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Re: anyone got an IPhone 10?

[Vicky Collins]

When I go to the Apple Store app and am on the discover tab, 
double tap on the option to buy the iPhone X, double tap on the 
frequently asked questions button and then double tap on the 
question "Are there differences between an iPhone for AT or 
T-Mobile and an iPhone for Sprint or Verizon?", I get the 
following answer: iPhone offers the same innovative features 
regardless of the wireless carrier you choose.  If you choose 
AT or T-Mobile as your wireless carrier, your iPhone will use 
either 3G or 4G LTE cellular technology for data services and 
voice services.  iPhone can roam internationally on many GSM 
carriers around the world.  If you buy an iPhone with AT or 
T-Mobile, it will not work if you switch to Sprint or Verizon.


If you choose Sprint or Verizon as your wireless carrier, your 
iPhone will use CDMA cellular technology for voice and data 
services.  If you buy an iPhone with Sprint or Verizon, it will 
work on AT or T-Mobile.  An iPhone activated on Sprint or 
Verizon also has the ability to roam internationally on GSM 
networks.  For details on LTE network support, please see  
www.apple.com/iphone/LTE Link .



- Original Message -
From: lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 08:27:33 -0500
Subject: Re: anyone got an IPhone 10?

As long as you paid full price from AT or TMobile it could and
should be unlocked to use where ever you wish to use it.  Sprint 
is the
only company that you might have issues with if you get a device 
from.

That's just because how the network is setup.

On 11/3/17, 'Ming' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I would not get t his one! because it's too expensive.  maybe 
next year!

I heard johnathan  Mosen's podcast.
He  has done a great discribtion


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 主旨: Re: anyone got an IPhone 10?
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2017年11月4日,星期六,上午10:31

 I would want the sim free one for the same
 reasons listed below.
 Now, grin, I likely wouldn't go to
 another country or leave AT,
 but I still want the freedom to do so,
 just in case.

 I knew the Verizon models came
 unlocked, but I didn't want to run
 into any possible problems activating
 since the phone would have
 initially come from Verizon.  Does
 anyone know if the iPhones for
 specific carriers have any markings or
 emblems or the like
 indicating they are from that carrier?
 I do realize the phone
 would have a carrier sim which one
 could remove.

 Also, glad you got the Verizon model
 and it worked, even if you
 are with T-Mobile.  For, if I'm
 understanding things correctly,
 if one purchases the iPhone for
 carriers such as AT and
 T-Mobile, even if you pay full price or
 get on the upgrade
 program so the phone is unlocked, it
 still can't be used on
 carriers such as Verizon and Sprint.

  - Original Message -
 From: Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:42:06
 -0400
 Subject: Re: anyone got an IPhone 10?

 well, I don’t know why others prefer
 the sim free model, but I
 prefer it so if I so choose I can
 travel to other countrys and
 not pay higher roaming chargers.
 Also, if I choose to jump back
 and forth between carriers because one
 might have a better deal
 is another reason.  I googled
 unlocked iPHone x today, and it
 told me that verizon phones come
 unlocked.  Also said that if you
 order directly from apple, you choose a
 carrier, but it’s
 unlocked when you receive it, only the
 simm card that is shipped
 with it locks it to that carrier.
 I know this to be true about
 verizon phones.  I am with
 t-mobiel, and they didn’t get any in
 store today.  So my friend let me
 purchase one on his verizon
 account, I popped my t-mobile sim card
 in, and it works just
 fine.  So if there were any doubt,
 now you know.  Also face ID is
 easy to setup, I ran into no issues at
 all, took less than 30
 seconds.
  On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:15 PM, M.
 Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu
 wrote:

  Hello Vicky and thank you for posting
 the link to the review.

  I have not yet decided on whether to
 get an iPhone 8 Plus or X
 but, like you, I would definitely opt
 for the SIM-free model.

  The truth, however, is that I don't
 remember why people prefer
 the SIM-free model over others.

  Can you, or someone else on the list,
 refresh my memory?

  Mark

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]

 On Behalf Of Vicky Collins
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 12:59
 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: anyone got an IPhone 10?

  I did enjoy and appreciate Jonathan's
 podcast.  There is also
 the review on AppleVis.  If I
 decide to get an iPhone 

Re: anyone got an IPhone 10?

[Vicky Collins]

I would want the sim free one for the same reasons listed below.  
Now, grin, I likely wouldn't go to another country or leave AT, 
but I still want the freedom to do so, just in case.


I knew the Verizon models came unlocked, but I didn't want to run 
into any possible problems activating since the phone would have 
initially come from Verizon.  Does anyone know if the iPhones for 
specific carriers have any markings or emblems or the like 
indicating they are from that carrier? I do realize the phone 
would have a carrier sim which one could remove.


Also, glad you got the Verizon model and it worked, even if you 
are with T-Mobile.  For, if I'm understanding things correctly, 
if one purchases the iPhone for carriers such as AT and 
T-Mobile, even if you pay full price or get on the upgrade 
program so the phone is unlocked, it still can't be used on 
carriers such as Verizon and Sprint.


- Original Message -
From: Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 21:42:06 -0400
Subject: Re: anyone got an IPhone 10?

well, I don’t know why others prefer the sim free model, but I 
prefer it so if I so choose I can travel to other countrys and 
not pay higher roaming chargers.  Also, if I choose to jump back 
and forth between carriers because one might have a better deal 
is another reason.  I googled unlocked iPHone x today, and it 
told me that verizon phones come unlocked.  Also said that if you 
order directly from apple, you choose a carrier, but it’s 
unlocked when you receive it, only the simm card that is shipped 
with it locks it to that carrier.  I know this to be true about 
verizon phones.  I am with t-mobiel, and they didn’t get any in 
store today.  So my friend let me purchase one on his verizon 
account, I popped my t-mobile sim card in, and it works just 
fine.  So if there were any doubt, now you know.  Also face ID is 
easy to setup, I ran into no issues at all, took less than 30 
seconds.

On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:15 PM, M.  Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

Hello Vicky and thank you for posting the link to the review.

I have not yet decided on whether to get an iPhone 8 Plus or X 
but, like you, I would definitely opt for the SIM-free model.


The truth, however, is that I don't remember why people prefer 
the SIM-free model over others.


Can you, or someone else on the list, refresh my memory?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Vicky Collins

Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: anyone got an IPhone 10?

I did enjoy and appreciate Jonathan's podcast.  There is also 
the review on AppleVis.  If I decide to get an iPhone X, it will 
be the sim free one which isn't yet available here in the United 
States.  Here is the link for the AppleVis review:


https://applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-iphone-news-opinion-reviews/i
phone-x-review-there-are-some-adjustments-and


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com Date 
sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 09:00:15 +

Subject: RE: anyone got an IPhone 10?

Jonathan Mosen posted a message with a link to his iPhone X 
Podcast, if you missed it go to www.mosen.org and look for I t 
there or use Apple's Podcast app or another podcast app to 
subscribe to "The Blind Side" Podcast.


-Original Message-
From: 'Ming' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:13 PM
To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: anyone got an IPhone 10?

hi! all.
anyone successfully got an I phone X and using it?
I hope I can listen some podcast about it!
how's face ID work and how's Voice over works without the home 
button!


Regards,


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RE: anyone got an IPhone 10?

[Vicky Collins]

I did enjoy and appreciate Jonathan's podcast.  There is also the 
review on AppleVis.  If I decide to get an iPhone X, it will be 
the sim free one which isn't yet available here in the United 
States.  Here is the link for the AppleVis review:

https://applevis.com/blog/apple-ios-iphone-news-opinion-reviews/i
phone-x-review-there-are-some-adjustments-and


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Re: Questions about rather phones are locked, or unlocked

[Vicky Collins]

Here in the United States, I think you might be right about the 
phones being sold unlocked, at least if you buy from Apple and 
either pay full price or go on their upgrade program.  When I 
played around with the Apple Store app and selected an AT 
iPhone and chose the pay in full option, I was told that I would 
be getting an unlocked phone with an AT sim.  However, although 
I didn't go through that process since I wasn't looking to 
purchase right then; but, had I chose something like AT Next 
where I would have had the cost of the phone spread over 
installments added to my phone bill, then the phone would have 
come locked to AT  Oh, yes, I forgot until I reread your 
message; but, now, all Verizon iPhones do come unlocked, but 
other carriers here in the States aren't so accommodating.


- Original Message -
From: "Marie" 

RE: Activating an iPhone without a SIM can it be done?

[Vicky Collins]

I keep an old sim card around, one that I used sometime back but 
was deactivated when I purchased an AT iPhone with a new sim 
card already inserted.  And, although I'm of course not able to 
make phone calls with this old sim in an iPhone, I have, at least 
so far, been able to activate other iPhones with it and use them 
on wi-fi.  Also, although I've never tried this, and have no idea 
just how reputable these sources are;; but, if I do a google 
search for activating iPhone without sim, I do get back various 
articles saying it may very well be able to be done.  I don't 
think I would want to try some of the methods mentioned, but I 
would certainly not be afraid to try hooking my phone up to my 
computer and using iTunes to see if it would give me the option 
to activate, especially if I had an unlocked phone and the latest 
version of iTunes on my pc.

- Original Message -
From: "Kathy Kalaluhi" 

RE: Cleared notfications Come back the next day

[Vicky Collins]

When I was running iOS 11.0.2, there were a few times when I 
couldn't clear the notifications on my 6S.  The clear 
notifications button was there, but I couldn't get the 
confirmation button to appear.  However, a reboot, meaning 
turning the iPhone off and then back on,  then let me clear them 
without a problem.  I haven't yet had that problem with iOS 
11.0.3.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:


Once I clear a notification I don't see it returning, which 
notifications are doing this on your phone?



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On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn

Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cleared notfications Come back the next day

Is there a way to keep cleared notifications from returning? I 
do not want to turn them off completely, but if I've cleared the 
ones from earlier today, I don't want to find them again 
tomorrow.  I am running IOS Version 11.03 on the iPhone 6+.

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re: iPhone 6S

[Vicky Collins]

I agree that buying a new phone probably isn't really necessary 
right now; however, just to address the cost of the 4.7 iPhone 6S 
here in the United States.  I  looked at the Apple Store app 
earlier today.  A new 32GB unlocked sim free model is $449, while 
the 128GB model is $549.  Looking at the same Apple Store app 
under their certified refurbished models, and the stock there 
does continually change; but, right now, they are showing an 
iPhone 6S 64GB for $429, while the 128GB model is $469.  The 
refurbished iPhones do come with the one year manufacturer 
warranty and the option to purchase AppleCare.  And, best I can 
tell from looking at the various models, they also come unlocked 
sim free, but lack AT band 30.


- Original Message -
From: Terri Stimmel 

RE: text message sounds don't play on locked screen

[Vicky Collins]

I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help.  But, on my iPhone 6S 
running iOS 11.0.1, I've had no problems with hearing my text 
message sound when the screen is locked.  It, as well as other 
notification sounds for other apps, plays as expected.

- Original Message -
From: "M.  Taylor" 

RE: Curious question about iPhone upgrade life

[Vicky Collins]

I just checked the Apple Store app here in the United States, and 
they are still selling the iPhone SE, at least for now, anyway..  
Looks like the 32GB is $349.00, while the 128GB costs $449.00.


- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel 

re: A Request to confirm a Dialing Option for A T & T Wireless customers who have upgraded to iOS 11

[Vicky Collins]

I didn't know about this option; but, when I tried it just now 
with my sister, it did indeed work and she saw my number with 
caller ID hidden.  I am running iOS 11 on my iPhone 6S using 
AT


- Original Message -
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RE: balance my checkbook

[Vicky Collins]

Sounds like you did.  Since I've paid for the app a long time 
ago, mine is called Balance Check.  The developer is 
LingsDesigns.


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Re: Wal-Mart App Users - How Can I ...

[Vicky Collins]

Right before the item name? That is where I see the price of the 
item, something I'm quite pleased to know.


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From: regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:52:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Wal-Mart App Users - How Can I ...


I have the Walmart app, but what drives me crazy is that before 
the item is spoken there is a number I am assuming is the item 
number.  Is there a way to switch this so I will see the item 
name first?



Reggie and Lex


On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Vicky Collins 
<v-coll...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


I use the Walmart app myself, having an order delivered to my 
apartment today for the same reasons as you.  But, when I get to 
the checkout screen, I am always careful that I select the 
shipping option, rather than the pick up one.  What I'm saying is 
that, I believe on the checkout screen somewhere, there is a way 
to edit your shipping or pick up options.  In fact, I 
inadvertently hit the pick up button once; and, although I don't 
remember everything on that screen, I do believe I saw a place 
for the name of the person who would be picking up my items.  
Also, the exact wording might not be pick up, but it is quite 
clear that the items would go to the store you have chosen.  I 
selected my store quite some time ago, so hope you already have 
as well.  If not, when looking at the app quickly, there is a 
store finder item in the tools tab of the app.  Although I do 
like Amazon for some things, I very often find Walmart to be a 
bit cheaper on the grocery type things they will ship.


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To: viPhone E-Mail List <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 08:16:33 -0500
Subject: Wal-Mart App Users - How Can I ...

I frequently use the Wal-Mart iOS app to have items shipped to my 
home.  This is a wonderful service that gives the freedom to buy 
some of the exact things I want.  However, I’ve learned that 
having glass jars shipped isn’t a particularly good idea.  I 
would like to submit an order to myu local Wal-Mart that 
employees would put up so I could stop in (with whomever is 
driving for me) to pick up said order.  Can anybody on this list 
offer tips on how this is done?



- Bill from Wisconsin
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re: Wal-Mart App Users - How Can I ...

[Vicky Collins]

I use the Walmart app myself, having an order delivered to my 
apartment today for the same reasons as you.  But, when I get to 
the checkout screen, I am always careful that I select the 
shipping option, rather than the pick up one.  What I'm saying is 
that, I believe on the checkout screen somewhere, there is a way 
to edit your shipping or pick up options.  In fact, I 
inadvertently hit the pick up button once; and, although I don't 
remember everything on that screen, I do believe I saw a place 
for the name of the person who would be picking up my items.  
Also, the exact wording might not be pick up, but it is quite 
clear that the items would go to the store you have chosen.  I 
selected my store quite some time ago, so hope you already have 
as well.  If not, when looking at the app quickly, there is a 
store finder item in the tools tab of the app.  Although I do 
like Amazon for some things, I very often find Walmart to be a 
bit cheaper on the grocery type things they will ship.


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From: Bill Gallik 

Re: My ATT app

[Vicky Collins]

I use it as well.  And, for the most part, I've been able to do 
whatever I wanted, meaning such things as viewing and paying my 
bill and checking my data usage for examples.  I did have a 
problem two or three months ago when I tried to change my data 
plan through the app, as I had to get sighted assistance to tap 
on one of the buttons.  But, the app is often updated, so things 
may have changed recently.


- Original Message -
From: Robert stigile  
wrote:


Hi,
I was wondering if anyone out there uses the my ATT app on your 
phone? I talk to them at AT today and they seem to think it was 
accessible.  What do you say?

Thanks

Terry Nord
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Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to!
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Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Patti Johnson 
 wrote:


I used to have this app  but found it was not accessible with
voiceover.  Does anybody know if that has changed?
Just curious.
Patti

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RE: texting when switching between iOS and Android phones

[Vicky Collins]

Hi Mark and All,

I don't know much about pay-as-you-go sims, but I can certainly 
investigate.  And, now that you mention it, I think you might be 
right about a sim card eventually getting damaged.  For, I have 
an old deactivated sim card I keep around here to be used to 
sometimes activate backup iphones used on Wi-Fi only; and, when I 
tried to put it in a micro sim adapter, just to see since my 
inexpensive Android phone takes a micro sim, it no longer fits 
snugly in that adapter.  I'm sure I would be most unhappy if my 
only working sim card were to stop working say at eleven o'clock 
on a Saturday night.


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Date sent: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:41:07 -0700
Subject: RE: texting when switching between iOS and Android 
phones


Hello Vicky,

The short answer to your question is most likely yes.

However, switching a SIM card between iMessage capable and 
non-iMessage capable devices can get a little tricky.


I strongly suggest that you obtain a pay-as-you-go SIM card from 
your wireless provider, to be used in your Android device.


Besides, it is not good to continually swap a SIM between devices 
as the more often you do it, the more likely the chance of 
damaging it.


Mark

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On Behalf Of Vicky Collins

Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: texting when switching between iOS and Android phones

Although the iPhone is still my primary phone, now that I'm 
retired from work and have the time, I'm playing with Android 
just a bit.  However, the first time I took my sim out of the 
iPhone and put it into an Android one, when I put it back into 
the iPhone several hours later I saw that I had missed several 
iMessages from the iPhone users in my family.  So, if I go into 
settings and then into messages and turn iMessage off, will that 
allow me to receive messages from other iPhone users while I have 
my sim in the Android phone? I know about the send as sms 
setting, but I kind of hate to ask others to go in and change 
their phone settings because of what I'm doing.


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