Re: [WAMUG] Unable to send videos or MMS

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Does a regular text message deliver with "Blue" text box and Delivery
   confirmation to the same recipient? Is the video file larger than 5MB -
   this is the limit for an iMessage video file where some of the other
   apps have larger file size limits. Try sending a small video (5 second
   clip say) or try sending to a family member in the same room as you.

   Perhaps you could cycle to OFF the Settings>Messages>iMessage button,
   wait a moment and then cycle back ON and retry.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

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 "Stephen Chape" 

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 Mon, 11 Dec 2023 13:54:07 +0800

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Unable to send videos or MMS
 Hi DJ
 I have an iPhone 12 Mini with 17.1.2
 I just used iMessage to text a video clip to another iPhone.
 No problem … sent and received.
 Perhaps during the last update something in Message settings
 changed.
 I have had that happen with other updates in the past.
 Sometimes a setting will return to DEFAULT without you changing it.
 > On 11 Dec 2023, at 1:43 pm, Jackson, DJ via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >
 > I recently updated my iPhone to 17.1.2
 >
 > And since the update I can’t seem to send videos via iMessage.
 >
 > Works in Instagram and other apps BUT constantly fails to send in
 > messenger??
 >
 > Anyone else experience this
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Re: [WAMUG] NBN fibre questions

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Yes Neil and Rosemary, I believe you're correct there Neil. Depending
   how handy you are, you could buy yourself a long length of Cat 6 cable
   to run from your NBN box to a wall point (new or old) for a dedicated
   connection between router and NBN box. I did this for my sons room at
   the back of my house - 30m Cat 6 for direct connection to an Apple
   Airport Express for local Wifi signal strength in his room.

   If not so handy, then use one of these guys. I did a Google search
   "domestic internet cabling perth" which gave lots of hits. Here's one.
   https://www.perthservices.com.au/phones-data-cabling/?gad_source=1
   d=CjwKCAiAvJarBhA1EiwAGgZl0IN9YUVwtwDKMY5VPy7200vPOBSvhcAqJyYYyGTf8Hzzq
   Pnu6U39nBoCaJcQAvD_BwE
   Hopefully this helps.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

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   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Neil Houghton" 

   Sent:

 Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:20:23 +0800

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] NBN fibre questions
 Hi Rosemary,
 I'm no expert here but my reasoning is:
 The fact that you get the speed you are expecting when the modem is
 plugged direct to the NBN box would suggest that the problem is not
 with your modem but with the cabling/network between the NBN box and
 the wall socket.
 You say that there is cabling from the garage to "other places" in
 the house – from your description, these are phone outlets rather
 than ethernet outlets and you then connect from this wall socket to
 the DSL port on the modem?
 More than one phone outlet means that there would be at least one
 splitter somewhere to split the signal to the various phone outlets.
 The splitter(s) could be in the garage or in the ceiling and could
 well be the problem –  you really need the modem connection to the
 NBN box to be as direct as possible.
 I suspect the simplest/easiest solution is to have the router
 plugged directly into the NBN box in the garage and then setup the
 wireless network of the router so everything connects to that – you
 would need to check that you get good wireless coverage from the
 garage to wherever you need it in the house (depending on the house
 size/construction you might need a wireless extender or a modem with
 better wireless performance.
 If you need to have the modem elsewhere (eg in the study) make sure
 you have a single good connection between there and the NBN box –
 how easy this is to achieve really will depend on the actual
 physical configuration and accessibility of your existing
 network/cabling.
 Just some thoughts HTH.
 Cheers
 Neil
 --
 Neil Houghton
 Albany
 Western Australia
 -Original Message-
 From: WAMUG  on behalf of Rosemary
 Spark via WAMUG 
 Reply-To: WAMUG 
 Date: Tuesday, 28 November 2023 at 20:40
 To: WAMUG 
 Cc: Rosemary Spark 
 Subject: [WAMUG] NBN fibre questions
Hi all,

We have just upgraded to NBN Fibre to the Premises. The speed
 we get
with the modem attached straight to the NBN box is about 10
 times
faster than when it is connected to the wall socket in the
 study.  Our
house is 61/2 years old and was cabled from the garage to
 other places
in the house when we bought it. The westnet/ iiNet guy said
 the cabling
might be too old to carry fibre speeds.

 The present wall socket in the study just looks like a phone
 socket
but it does carry the signal to the modem albeit slowly. The
 distance
is not great …it goes up from the NBN box in the garage in
 conduit to
the ceiling, presumably in the ceiling and down the wall in
 the study
next door.

What sort of professional would be able to re-cable so the
 speed was
maintained to the study?

Would a more uptodate modem also help maintain better speeds?
 The
present one is an iiNet black TG model.

Cheers

Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
0414268043
[1]arkaysp...@gmail.com

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Re: [WAMUG] Any fix for a faulty Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad?

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Brian, It is worth plugging the keyboard into another computer with
   a USB port to test it. Even a Windows computer or a Macbook if you or
   someone you know has one. That would test the working function of the
   keyboard. Is it possible by coincidence the batteries in the keyboard
   need replacing - if it has batteries even though USB connected.

   I'm not sure how to disassociate the device from your iMac to restart
   the association again as though it were a new keyboard. Hopefully
   someone else here knows how to do that.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

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   Cc:

 "Brian W Scott" 

   Sent:

 Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:48:04 +0800

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] Any fix for a faulty Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad?
 Hi,
 I disconnected my iMac from the mains last night when I saw the
 lightening heading our way.
 When I reconnect this morning the Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
 is no longer responding.
 It is a USB wired keyboard not bluetooth.
 The built in hub still works. The caps lock light does not come on.
 The cost of getting it repaired (it is way out of warranty) would I
 imagine be similar to the cost of a new one.
 I can’t see any easy way into it but was wondering if there was any
 hope of getting it working again. Perhaps a combination key press or
 some such thing.
 I have another Magic Keyboard without the Numeric Keypad that I am
 currently using. I am used to having the keypad and would like it
 back again.
 Thanks
 Brian Scott
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

 responding to some
 emails
 >>> that bounced? or are they just assuming that all iinet customers
 need
 >>> to change their address
 >>>
 >>> It is becoming a real problem; and very time consuming in trying
 to
 >>> contact each company to tell them my address is valid.
 >>>
 >>> Whether or not the Messaging Company will be happy to have all
 these
 >>> iinet customers after the first year we will just have to wait
     and
 >>> see.. Along with how much they charge us
 >>>
 >>> Best wishes all
 >>>
 >>> Wendy
 >>>
 >>> Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is
 located
 on
 >>> the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> - Original Message -
 >>>
 >>> From:
 >>> "WAMUG"
 >>>
 >>> To:
 >>>
 >>> "WAMUG"
 >>>
 >>> Cc:
 >>>
 >>> "Peter Crisp"
 >>>
 >>> Sent:
 >>>
 >>> Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:55:29 +0800
 >>>
 >>> Subject:
 >>>
 >>> Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?
 >>> Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
 >>> understand.
 >>> Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are
 outsourcing
 >>> the email management. This was received with big groans.
 However,
 >>> Westnet (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The
 >>> Messaging Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan,
 in
 >>> which case they will manage the full migration of your Westnet
 (or
 >>> iinet) Mail accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly
 you
 >>> will keep exactly the same email address afterwards. I have
 opted
 in
 >>> as making a change to a different email address would be a huge
 >>> undertaking with all the tangles with multiple other
 subscriptions,
 >>> providers etc my email address is associated with. Same to for
 the 4
 >>> other family members in my family. I dug further into this - the
 >>> first
 >>> year of email management is free with The Messaging Company and
 then
 >>> from year 2, they will charge a fee for the email management. If
 I
 >>> look at my Westnet plan, the current email management fee will
 >>> disappear form day 1 after migration and thereafter. I don't
 know
 >>> yet
 >>> how much The Messaging Company will charge from year 2.
 >>> You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions
 or
 >>> there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
 >>> Kind Regards
 >>> Peter Crisp
 >>> - Original Message -
 >>> From: "WAMUG"
 >>> To:"WAMUG"
 >>> Cc:"Rod Blitvich"
 >>> Sent:Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800
 >>> Subject:[WAMUG] Which Email address?
 >>> Hi Folks
 >>> So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
 >>> Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as
 my
 >>> primary address?
 >>> I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
 >>> I have the following email addresses:
 >>> rb...@iinet.net.au
 >>> bli...@mac.com
 >>> bli...@icloud.com
 >>> I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
 >>> Thank you
 >>> Rod Blitvich
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Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   HI Stephen, yes by simply “Opting In” to have Westnet migrate your
   email service to TMC, you’re merely saying to Westnet - at the deadline
   date, transition my email service to TMC. I don’t believe the
   transition has happened yet. The greeting email we received upon
   “Opting In” said to wait for further instructions which will be
   delivered later. In the meantime time continue to use the Westnet
   webmail page if that is what you use, as I do sometimes (when on my
   work Windows laptop).

   Regards
   Pete

 On 4 Nov 2023, at 10:15 pm, Stephen Chape 
 wrote:

   

 Hi Wendy … you have me intrigued.

   Why do you now log in to The Messaging Co ?

   My daughter is with Westnet.

   She simply she followed the steps suggested by Westnet to retain her
   email address

   by the due date and nothing has changed.

   On 4 Nov 2023, at 6:51 pm, Pete via WAMUG 
   wrote:

   Thanks and agreed Robin. Completely frictionless as you say.
   Regards
   Pete

 On 4 Nov 2023, at 6:12 pm, Robin Belford via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi Wendy,
 I’m not sure you have fully understood the minimal effect on the
 user that the transfer of the email hosting of iinet, westnet et.
 al. email services actually entails.
 Now perhaps because you appear to be accessing your email via a web
 browser you are experiencing the dual login dance (it sounds absurd
 to me).
 You could consider using an email client, such as Mail, which comes
 installed on every macintosh and iPhone.
 Using these services I, my wife, and my children have experienced a
 frictionless transition.
 Infact they don’t really know, or care, who is managing their email
 hosting.
 All they care about is continuity of service, which they have
 experienced.
 As for your assertion that third party companies, such as Medibank
 etc. expect you to change your email address is a complete nonsense.
 If that is what you have been told you, have been badly advised.
 You just keep using your westnet/iinet/ address as if nothing has
 happened.
 Regards,
 Robin

 On 4 Nov 2023, at 5:40 pm, wendy.corrick--- via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Yep Peter I agree with your good summary.
 I too have an iinet address (one of their very early customers in
 fact)
 and I did more than groan when I heard they intended to out source
 the
 management of their iinet email customers.
 I did it by the due date and now log in to The Messaging Company
 first;
 this takes me automatically to the familiar iinet screen where I log
 in
 again.
 All is OK;  except many companies eg Medibank assume that ALL iinet
 customers MUST change their address.  Our postman (the one that goes
 around the streets delivering mail) is weighed down by the numbers
 of
 letters this household has received requesting us to let the company
 know of our new email address.  (I exaggerate a bit there!)  What I
 haven't worked out is are these companies responding to some emails
 that bounced? or are they just assuming that all iinet customers
 need
 to change their address.
 It is becoming a real problem;  and very time consuming in trying to
 contact each company to tell them my address is valid.
 Whether or not the Messaging Company will be happy to have all these
 iinet customers after the first year we will just have to wait and
 see..  Along with how much they charge us.
 Best wishes all
 Wendy
 Friends of Gabbiljee respectfully acknowledges that it is located on
 the land of the Whadjuk Noongar people.
   - Original Message -
 From:
 "WAMUG" 
 To:
   "WAMUG" 
     Cc:
   "Peter Crisp" 
 Sent:
   Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:55:29 +0800
 Subject:
   Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?
   Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I
   understand.
   Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are
 outsourcing
   the email management. This was received with big groans. However,
   Westnet (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The
   Messaging Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in
   which case they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or
   iinet) Mail accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you
   will keep exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted
 in
   as making a change to a different email address would be a huge
   undertaking with all the tangles with multiple other
 subscriptions,
   providers etc my email address is associated with. Same to for the
 4
   other family members in my family. I dug further into this - the
   first
   year of email management is free with The Messaging Company and
 then
   from year 2, they will charge a fee 

Re: [WAMUG] Which Email address?

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Rod, I am with Westnet as my ISP - same org as iinet I understand.
   Westnet advised me a couple of months back too they are outsourcing the
   email management. This was received with big groans. However, Westnet
   (and iinet) are outsourcing the email management to The Messaging
   Company. You have the choice to Opt In to their plan, in which case
   they will manage the full migration of your Westnet (or iinet) Mail
   accounts to The Messaging Company, but importantly you will keep
   exactly the same email address afterwards. I have opted in as making a
   change to a different email address would be a huge undertaking with
   all the tangles with multiple other subscriptions, providers etc my
   email address is associated with. Same to for the 4 other family
   members in my family. I dug further into this - the first year of email
   management is free with The Messaging Company and then from year 2,
   they will charge a fee for the email management. If I look at my
   Westnet plan, the current email management fee will disappear form day
   1 after migration and thereafter. I don't know yet how much The
   Messaging Company will charge from year 2.

   You can ring the helpline for further details if other questions or
   there is an FAQ page for the commonly asked questions.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Rod Blitvich" 

   Sent:

 Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:13:05 +0800

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] Which Email address?
 Hi Folks
 So iinet email is shifting to another provider.
 Please can you suggest which email address should now I use as my
 primary address?
 I currently use rb...@iinet.net.au
 I have the following email addresses:
 rb...@iinet.net.au
 bli...@mac.com
 bli...@icloud.com
 I am thinking of making bli...@mac.com as my primary address
 Thank you
 Rod Blitvich
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[WAMUG] IOmega ZIP drive

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

Hi folks, this is a long shot - I have a junk room I am clearing out and there 
is an old iOmega ZIP drive unit along with a stack of ZIP discs (14 of them - 
each 250MB). My Dad used it on his Mac’s many years ago.

It’s junk as far as I’m concerned but there may be someone here who might want 
this either for posterity or genuine use. 

Free for whomever wants it.

Regards


Pete
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Re: [WAMUG] iMac periodically dropping off WiFi ?

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Stephen, I've not had this problem but a couple of suggestions. Try
   removing the WiFi network from the stack of WiFi networks in the stack
   (maybe it only has this one in the stack of one WiFi networks). Then
   reinstate it from fresh.

   Ensure also that it sits as the first network in order of the stack of
   networks if you have a stack of other WiFi networks.

   When was the iMac last fully Shutdown?
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

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   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Stephen Chape" 

   Sent:

 Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:32:59 +0800

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] iMac periodically dropping off WiFi ?
 Hi folks … this has been happening with my wife’s iMac for about 48
 hours.
 It has dropped off WiFi at least 3 times.
 And I have had to reconnect using the password.
 Anyone know why this might be happening please ?
 Mac 21.5 inch late 2012
 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel i7
 Regards
 Stephen Chape
 Mac by choice
 Windows because my employer knew no better
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Re: [WAMUG] New computer security

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Rosemary, sorry I don't have any advice on this problem but I am
   curious as to why you're not using Time Machine or is the WD back
   additional to it? My dear Dad used to have a TM backup as well as TWO
   additional CCC backups running on alternate days!

   I hope you get it sorted, always these problems arise only after you've
   made the change to a new machine or an OSX update.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Rosemary Spark" 

   Sent:

 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 10:52:40 +0800

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] New computer security
 Hi all,
 I have a new computer Macbook Air 2022, Ventura 13. One of my
 programmes
 (Western Digital) interfaces so I can back up my mac.
 When I set up my new computer first I had to download Rosetta to run
 it at
 all.
 Then to sign in to the web app, it demanded I change extensions. It
 used to
 be you could change this in Security settings.
 Now evidently you have to boot into Recovery and edit the Security
 Start
 Utility explained here https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208198 ...
 But this Utility DOES NOT EXIST.
 The instructions say
 1. When you see the macOS utilities window, choose Utilities >
 Startup
 Security Utility from the menu bar.
 The only Utility is Disc Utility...that's it!
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 Cheers
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
 Mobile: 0414268043
 Email: arkaysp...@gmail.com
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Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Ok, this may help to progress, Bill.

   https://www.alphr.com/find-admin-password-mac/
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

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   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Juliet Kitson" 

   Sent:

 Wed, 7 Dec 2022 14:31:48 +1100

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini
 Thanks again when I first fired up just hit enter so no passé word
 so no
 problem but can’t change time and date as I can’t connect to
 internet even
 system settings indicate I am connected
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 14:27 Peter Crisp via WAMUG
 
 wrote:
 > AH, I see your problem now - so it is the Apple account login
 password
 > you don't have. Sorry I went down the wrong burrow. I actually
 don't
 > know how to recover the Apple Password if it becomes lost. I hope
 > someone else here can help - I'd like to know too.
 >
 > I suppose a call to Apple Help may get you along the way to
 success but
 > if you're outside of the Apple Care date not sure if they'll help.
 > Kind Regards
 > Peter Crisp
 >
 > - Original Message -
 >
 > From:
 > "WAMUG" 
 >
 > To:
 >
 > "WAMUG" 
 >
 > Cc:
 >
 > "Juliet Kitson" 
 >
 > Sent:
 >
 > Wed, 7 Dec 2022 14:19:05 +1100
 >
 > Subject:
 >
 > Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini
 > Thanks Peter,
 > I should have more specific when I fire up I am asked to set time
 > and date
 > etc as I have no password to startup but I need a password to
 unlock
 > to
 > change date and time which is the one I have forgotten my other
 > problem is
 > even though in system preferences it indicates I am connected to
 the
 > net
 > the network in the top of the page menu is blanked out and when I
 > try to
 > open safari you are not connected to the internet message appears
 by
 > the
 > way this mac mini is old and running HI sierra.
 > Regards Bill
 > On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:18 PM Peter Crisp via WAMUG <
 > wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 > > Hi Juliet - yes, if you go to the ABC iView site via your
 browser
 > or
 > > app and try to Log In, you select the "With email" option. Once
 > there,
 > > there is usually a "Forgot Password" button. If you select this,
 > you
 > > will get a reset password link to your Inbox and you're on your
 > way
 > > again.
 > >
 > > I use Passdiary as my holder of all passwords - very useful to
 > minimise
 > > this problem recurring. I have literally hundreds of different
 > accounts
 > > and no two are the same. There's polenty of other password
 manager
 > apps
 > > available too.
 > > Kind Regards
 > > Peter Crisp
 > >
 > > - Original Message -
 > >
 > > From:
 > > "WAMUG" 
 > >
 > > To:
 > >
 > > "WAMUG Mailing List" 
 > >
 > > Cc:
 > >
 > > "Juliet Kitson" 
 > >
 > > Sent:
 > >
 > > Wed, 7 Dec 2022 12:55:38 +1100
 > >
 > > Subject:
 > >
 > > [WAMUG] Mac mini
 > > Hello
 > > I have a mac mini which I purchased many years ago I am now
 trying
 > > to set
 > > it up for ABC Iview but I have forgotten my password is there
 > anyway
 > > to
 > > overcome this problem.
 > > Regards Bill
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Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   AH, I see your problem now - so it is the Apple account login password
   you don't have. Sorry I went down the wrong burrow. I actually don't
   know how to recover the Apple Password if it becomes lost. I hope
   someone else here can help - I'd like to know too.

   I suppose a call to Apple Help may get you along the way to success but
   if you're outside of the Apple Care date not sure if they'll help.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Juliet Kitson" 

   Sent:

 Wed, 7 Dec 2022 14:19:05 +1100

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini
 Thanks Peter,
 I should have more specific when I fire up I am asked to set time
 and date
 etc as I have no password to startup but I need a password to unlock
 to
 change date and time which is the one I have forgotten my other
 problem is
 even though in system preferences it indicates I am connected to the
 net
 the network in the top of the page menu is blanked out and when I
 try to
 open safari you are not connected to the internet message appears by
 the
 way this mac mini is old and running HI sierra.
 Regards Bill
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:18 PM Peter Crisp via WAMUG <
 wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 > Hi Juliet - yes, if you go to the ABC iView site via your browser
 or
 > app and try to Log In, you select the "With email" option. Once
 there,
 > there is usually a "Forgot Password" button. If you select this,
 you
 > will get a reset password link to your Inbox and you're on your
 way
 > again.
 >
 > I use Passdiary as my holder of all passwords - very useful to
 minimise
 > this problem recurring. I have literally hundreds of different
 accounts
 > and no two are the same. There's polenty of other password manager
 apps
 > available too.
 > Kind Regards
 > Peter Crisp
 >
 > - Original Message -
 >
 > From:
 > "WAMUG" 
 >
 > To:
 >
 > "WAMUG Mailing List" 
 >
 > Cc:
 >
 > "Juliet Kitson" 
 >
 > Sent:
 >
 > Wed, 7 Dec 2022 12:55:38 +1100
 >
 > Subject:
 >
 > [WAMUG] Mac mini
 > Hello
 > I have a mac mini which I purchased many years ago I am now trying
 > to set
 > it up for ABC Iview but I have forgotten my password is there
 anyway
 > to
 > overcome this problem.
 > Regards Bill
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Re: [WAMUG] Mac mini

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Juliet - yes, if you go to the ABC iView site via your browser or
   app and try to Log In, you select the "With email" option. Once there,
   there is usually a "Forgot Password" button. If you select this, you
   will get a reset password link to your Inbox and you're on your way
   again.

   I use Passdiary as my holder of all passwords - very useful to minimise
   this problem recurring. I have literally hundreds of different accounts
   and no two are the same. There's polenty of other password manager apps
   available too.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG Mailing List" 

   Cc:

 "Juliet Kitson" 

   Sent:

 Wed, 7 Dec 2022 12:55:38 +1100

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] Mac mini
 Hello
 I have a mac mini which I purchased many years ago I am now trying
 to set
 it up for ABC Iview but I have forgotten my password is there anyway
 to
 overcome this problem.
 Regards Bill
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[WAMUG] Macbook Pro 2013 Retia 13" - Battery suspect

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

Hi there. I bought a Macbook Pro 2013 Retina 13” in 2013 (late). It has been 
and is still a reliable Macbook. It doesn’t get used for much but I do need it. 
A few months back I noticed the keyboard area beginning to bulge upwards and 
the keyboard alloy shell is deforming upwards. It still is working fine. I keep 
it on power all the time and rarely take it away from the power to use it for 
portability. Bulge is becoming more pronounced over time.

My suspicion is the nearly 10 year old battery is expanding and pushing up the 
chassis from beneath the keyboard. I see some online DIY battery replacement 
procedures and I’ve done many other Macbook Air, Pro batteries before - but the 
Retina seems more complex, though not overly daunting for my relevant 
experience in doing these tasks. I could give it a go. 

Naturally I have backups all in order in the event of a disaster. 

Has anyone here done a 2013 MBP Retina 13” battery change - or would Apple even 
touch it?

Comments please.

Thanks in advance

Peter Crisp.


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Re: [WAMUG] Decision time: MacBook Pro battery

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Tim, I had a very similar experience in the last couple of weeks for
   an MBA (Mid 2012) I am selling - (daughter's ex-school used MBA). I
   thought the battery was fine and when a potential buyer came over, it
   wouldn't boot into the setup screen (I had previously erased it).  When
   I put the power lead on it, it did boot up, as soon as the power lead
   was disconnected, screen went black. So I surmised the battery was
   completely shot. When I left it on charge overnight prior to selling,
   the charge lead light remained orange and I noted too that the power
   block was cold - so no energy going into the dead battery. Light
   remained orange for days - it was never going to go green.

   So I bought a replacement battery (A1466 MBA), fitted it and then
   charged it. Now it boots fine whether on charger lead or not. I am also
   aware that the eBay batteries are potentially dubious life (when
   compared with new Apple batteries fitted by Apple), but for $38 I was
   ok with that for what is quite an old machine that is otherwise a good
   working MBA.

   If I were in your position, I would get myself an eBay battery ($70 odd
   from a quick search) to get yourself going again. From there you can
   decide either to keep it in operation or peel off the data you need
   from it and get a new (or newer used) MB. I wouldn't reckon that $299
   is worth spending on such an old machine. You can get 4 eBay batteries
   for the same and they're an easy DIY fit. Just watch the myriad of
   clips on YouTube.
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG List" 

   Cc:

 "Tim Law" 

   Sent:

 Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:17:08 +0800

   Subject:

 [WAMUG] Decision time: MacBook Pro battery
 Good morning
 A1502 late 2013 MacBook Pro. Still suitable for purpose.
 Couple of days ago I got a ‘service required’ warning saying the
 battery was at the end of its life. Now the machine won’t start up,
 even if the power supply is plugged in. Interestingly the power
 charger brick is not at all warm, indicating no charge going in but
 the little orange light on the magnetic plug is on.
 Apple website estimates $299 to replace the battery. A new M2 costs
 $2000
 I use VMware Fusion to run two native PC apps and it works as I
 require so I’m hesitant to upgrade in case that stops functioning.
 Do I just get the battery replaced or replace the machine?. I have a
 feeling it’s no longer supported for OSX upgrades.
 Wise thoughts appreciated.
 Tim Law
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Re: [WAMUG] Two iPhones receiving my SMS replies ?

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Hi Stephen, I can recall I had this problem many many years ago. I was
   thinking the quick solution is the one Daniel indicated would be a
   quick one for you. But there is another way and this has been 100% the
   best way forward for my family of 5 people. We all shared the one Apple
   ID at one point in time and it sort of worked ok and using the solution
   Daniel indicated we kept our texts to ourselves across our own devices.
   When Apple introduced the Family Sharing functionality, that
   revolutionized this issue of overlapping texts between users to
   disappear but many other things became very easily managed.

   The link below is worth a read and it may seem daunting but is actually
   very easy to set up.

   For my family - I am the Organiser, my wife (is created as a
   Parent/Guardian) and three kids are all Family members in the Family I
   created. My wife and I both have ability to Approve or Decline our kids
   purchase of apps (underwritten by my credit card). Apps bought by any
   family member automatically gives all family members the ability to
   download that same app for no more payment as well. In app purchases
   are Apple ID specific - one to be aware of but still needs specific
   approval for each in app purchase. In setting up the family, each
   family member will need to create their own Apple ID (email and
   password) to set up their future in the Apple ecosystem. This may be
   challenging for your wife if you're to be the Organiser and she is a
   'subordinate' Family Member (But still with Organiser authority to
   purchase etc) as she will become distanced from the things she has at
   her fingertips that are associated with your Apple ID now but making
   the break is something worth considering. The link should explain the
   process of migrating things across (Contacts, Mail etc)
   https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201088
   Kind Regards
   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Stephen Chape" 

   Sent:

 Thu, 8 Sep 2022 09:23:17 +0800

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Two iPhones receiving my SMS replies ?
 Thanks Daniel.
 I went looking for that but her iPad has no phone number.
 So her only option is the Apple ID … that is my issue.
 > On 7 Sep 2022, at 11:11 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >
 > Hi Stephen
 >
 > Yes, if you’re using the same AppleID that would be why,
 >
 > You can disable it by the following…
 > On your wife’s iPad go to Settings - Messages.
 > Tap on “Send & Receive”. You’ll see a list od AppleID’s and phone
 numbers. Untick the phone number you don’t want her to receive them
 on. (In the top section)
 > This will then remove it from the “list of replies”.
 >
 > That should then resolve it.
 > Kind regards
 > Daniel
 >
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 disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author
 be requested.
 >
 >> On 7 Sep 2022, at 10:38 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >>
 >> Hi folks.
 >>
 >> When I send an SMS from my iPhone 13 to anyone else with an
 iPhone my
 >> wife also receives the reply on her iPad.
 >>
 >> I am guessing this is because we use the same Apple ID for all
 our
 >> devices and these go as iMessages.
 >>
 >> Is there any way of stopping this without changing the Apple ID ?
 >> Regards
 >> Stephen Chape
 >> Mac by choice
 >> Windows because my employer knew no better
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Re: [WAMUG] Virus

[Peter Crisp via WAMUG]

   Yes, agreed to all those below. Classic giveaway is where it starts
   "Hello, we can't invoice you properly, you will be disconnected if you
   don't resolve". A name is never provided by a scammer.

   Kind Regards

   Peter Crisp

 - Original Message -

   From:
   "WAMUG" 

   To:

 "WAMUG" 

   Cc:

 "Susan Hastings" 

   Sent:

 Tue, 9 Aug 2022 08:16:39 +1000

   Subject:

 Re: [WAMUG] Virus
 Hi Juliet, I’m getting heaps of emails regarding security and anti
 virus programs and I send them all to junk. I’ve even had one
 pretending to be my internet provider. You can rely on them all as
 being scams. Cheers, Susan.
 Sent from my iPad
 > On 9 Aug 2022, at 8:10 am, Juliet Kitson via WAMUG
  wrote:
 >
 >  Thanks Pete,
 > I did just that.
 > Regards Juliet
 >
 > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:19 AM Pete Smith via WAMUG
 > <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 >
 > Hi Juliet.
 > I wouldn’t trust it. I don’t think it’s Apple. That would an
 > admission
 > that their security is poor - which I don’t think it is.
 > As for any one else, how would they know whether you have any
 > viruses
 > or trojans on your computer anyway?
 > I would just delete the email.
 > That’s my personal view anyway.
 > Regards,
 > Pete Smith
 > On 8 Aug 2022, at 13:52, Juliet Kitson via WAMUG
 > <[1][2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
 > Hello
 > I am usually very suspicious of weird messages just got one
 > with the
 > apple logo in the top corner warning of trojans and virus
 > "[2]I-protect.com" telling me to scan any advice would be
 > appreciated.
 > Regards Juliet
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 > 3. https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/
 > 4. http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml
 > 5. http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
 > 6. mailto:wa...@lists.wamug.org.au
 > 7. http://I-protect.com/
 > 8. https://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/
 > 9. http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml
 > 10. http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Re: [WAMUG] Computer

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Kevin, no content in this, something missing?

Pete.

> On 10 Jun 2022, at 12:11 pm, Kevin Lock  wrote:
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[WAMUG] 2009 White Macbook - no longer in use

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, I have a perfect condition 2009 white Macbook - our very first foray 
into the Apple world and no further need for it. I am told I am a hoarder and 
don’t want to see it go but if there is someone here that wants it, I am happy 
for someone who would treasure it than just send it out to just anyone - for 
nothing. The battery even works fine surprisingly, all keys work. It is just 
SLOW as you’d expect. It is base spec as well. 

I am in Mandurah, please let me know if any takers. I do go to work in the city 
so could get it there if that helps.

Regards

Pete.


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Re: [WAMUG] thousands of alerts

[Peter Crisp]

Sounds like you may have been hacked. But not sure what to do about it sorry.

Regards


Pete

> On 2 Jun 2022, at 7:26 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> 
> Re-sending
> 
>> I received about 1000 email messages in my gmail from me to me saying alert 
>> election dayafter the election. They were in the sent folder though I 
>> didn't send them.
>> I did not set up an alert at all.
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2017, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
>  Monterey 12.3.1
>> 
>> 
>> Rosemary Spark
>> PO Box 781
>> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>> Mobile: 0414268043
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Computer shutting down

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Rosemary, message received.

The crash report seems a lot of gobbledygook. But actually when looking through 
all the verbiage, I couldn’t see any relationship with Time Machine. Is it 
possible for you turn off backups to disable that and see if that makes a 
difference?

If the panic occurs at first start and you can’t get past that I am not sure 
what next.

Regards


Pete

> On 2 Jun 2022, at 7:25 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Re -sending
>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 17:33, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>> Anybody any suggestions? Crash report below
>> 
>> MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2017, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)
>>  Monterey 12.3.1
>> 
>> I think it might be related to TimeMachine backup to MYCloud Home as every 
>> time I turn it on, it seems my computer dies.
>> Obviously, something is panicking but I don't know what.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Rosemary Spark
>> 
>> panic(cpu 2 caller 0xff801a413355): "hfs_UNswap_BTNode: invalid backward 
>> link (0x00013077 == 0x00013077)\n" @hfs_endian.c:293
>> Panicked task 0xff950734c350: 3 threads: pid 1: launchd
>> Backtrace (CPU 2), panicked thread: 0xff903dafcaa8, Frame : Return 
>> Address
>> 0xffd06f52b630 : 0xff8018883e2d 
>> 0xffd06f52b680 : 0xff80189e3cb6 
>> 0xffd06f52b6c0 : 0xff80189d350d 
>> 0xffd06f52b710 : 0xff8018823a60 
>> 0xffd06f52b730 : 0xff80188841fd 
>> 0xffd06f52b850 : 0xff80188839b6 
>> 0xffd06f52b8b0 : 0xff80191164bf 
>> 0xffd06f52b9a0 : 0xff801a413355 
>> 0xffd06f52ba30 : 0xff801a402f94 
>> 0xffd06f52ba80 : 0xff801a40b49e 
>> 0xffd06f52bb90 : 0xff801a40aac2 
>> 0xffd06f52bc20 : 0xff801a40d640 
>> 0xffd06f52bc80 : 0xff801a4401a5 
>> 0xffd06f52bcc0 : 0xff801a42a12f 
>> 0xffd06f52bea0 : 0xff8018b34dfe 
>> 0xffd06f52bec0 : 0xff8018b207ac 
>> 0xffd06f52bf30 : 0xff8018b34d77 
>> 0xffd06f52bf40 : 0xff8018f8ad2b 
>> 0xffd06f52bfa0 : 0xff8018824226 
>>   Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
>>  
>> com.apple.filesystems.hfs.kext(583.100.10)[1562C6A0-A578-3056-B758-91FC164AD353]@0xff801a3f3000->0xff801a451fff
>> dependency: 
>> com.apple.filesystems.hfs.encodings.kext(1)[C3AC56B7-F832-3667-B7AE-C1B89D9F388D]@0xff801a458000->0xff801a459fff
>> 
>> Process name corresponding to current thread (0xff903dafcaa8): launchd
>> 
>> Mac OS version:
>> 21E258
>> 
>> Kernel version:
>> Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Fri Mar 18 00:45:05 PDT 2022; 
>> root:xnu-8020.101.4~15/RELEASE_X86_64
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Re: [WAMUG] curly questions?

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Rosemary, I don’t recall seeing an earlier email with curly questions. Try 
sending it again. Nothing like a challenge.

Regards


Pete

> On 1 Jun 2022, at 7:17 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> 
> I sent a couple of questions through. Did they arrive? Are they too 
> difficult/ too easy to answer?
> 
> Cheers
> Rosemary Spark
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> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
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Re: [WAMUG] External Monitor for MacBook Pro

[Peter Crisp]

Yes Blitto, that's exactly what I would be doing. Brightness will be
adjustable. If you're budget constrained, then the lesser resolution
will still be fine. My Lenovo's were $180 a piece - dirt cheap, fine
to use for my engineering/PM type work. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WA Mac User Group Mac User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 18 May 2022 09:04:35 +0800
Subject:Re: [WAMUG] External Monitor for MacBook Pro

 Thanks to everyone for your useful advice.So I’m thinking it
doesn’t seem essential to spend big bucks.Nor does it seem the
monitor needs to be labelled “mac compatible”.
Probably don’t need 4K resolution, but 1920x1080 or 2560 x 1440 
might be nice.
I am wondering whether Brightness specs are important? Some are 250
nits? Others are 300 or higher.
Anyway going to look around at Officeworks and JB.
But First - I HAVE TO TIDY THE STUDY!藍
Thanks again everyoneBlitto

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  rb...@iinet.net.au 

On 17 May 2022, at 4:57 pm, Marcus Harris  wrote:
I bought a 27 inch frameless monitor, 2560x1440 resolution with HDMI
connection from Kogan. It was about $300 a year ago.It’s perfect for
general use.I believe the main thing that others have noted is that
QHD 2560x1440 resolution is far superior to HD 1920x1080, so pay
that bit extra.Cheers
 Marcus
Marcus Harris
P.O. Box 7135
Shenton Park
Western Australia 6008
Australia
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On 16 May 2022, at 7:36 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
Hi Rod,

 I’d second what Peter said – I’ve bought a couple of external
monitors over the last 14 months and both have just connected and
worked with both my late 2009 27” iMac and my new 13” M1 Macbook
air. I think the best approach is really to just think about:

* what sort of display real estate you want/need

* what is the resolution of your computer

* what is the driving capacity of your computer

 For myself:

* My iMac has a native resolution of 2560x 1440 and simultaneously
supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to a
30-inch display (2560 by 1600 pixels) on an external display

* My MacBook Air has a native resolution of 2560 × 1600 and
simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display
and one external display with up to 6016x3384 resolution at 60Hz

* My Phillips 273v7qdsb has Native Resolution of 1920 x 1080 and
HDMI, DVI-D and D-sub inputs.

* My Lenovo D32qc-20 has Native Resolution of 2560 x 1440 and HDMI
and Display Port inputs.

 For my main iMac, I am frequently running multiple Excel
spreadsheets and/or multiple browser windows with many tabs in each
– so my need was for an extended desktop to maximise viewing area.
Initially I had the Phillips attached with a direct mini display port
to hdmi cable - which all worked fine but I found the discontinuity of
tracking from the 2560x1440 iMac screen to the 1920x1080 monitor
screen sufficiently annoying that I ended up reducing the iMac
resolution to 1920x1080 to match the monitor – which I found much
more useable. However it seemed a shame to have to resort to
downgrading the iMac resolution – so, given that the iMac can
support video output up to 2560x1600 - I decided to upgrade the
monitor and bought the 32” Lenovo.

 As per my previous post, when I initially connected the Lenovo,
using the same direct mini display port to hdmi cable, I found that
the maximum resolution that the iMac could see was 1920 x 1080 but I
then bought a mini display port to display port cable – which
unlocked the full 2560 x 1440 resolution of the monitor – which now
gives a seamless extended desktop of 2x 2560x1440 – which works
great for me.

 I now use the Phillips with the MacBook Air at home  - I have a
USB-C hub with an HDMI port and an HDMI cable to handle the connection
and I have the monitor set as the main display and the MacBook display
just set to mirror the monitor – I find the 13” screen hard to
view without glasses but the 27” is great.

 So, as you see, different setups for different purposes – but, if
you are looking to use an extended desktop with 2 displays/monitors, I
do find having the same vertical resolution makes for a seamless
pointer transition between the two screens and avoids the annoyance of
the pointer ‘banging into the brick wall”.

 I did see if the Macbook air would drive both the external monitor
AND the Luna Display connected 27” iMac – but the Luna display app
just told me that I had reached the display limit of my computer. The
Luna Display app obviously makes the iMac just look like an external
display and, since the MacBook air will only drive one external
monitor, it is either/or but not both!

 I’m not sure what size your 2021 MacBook Pro is – the 13”
seems to have the same capability as my MacB

Re: [WAMUG] IMPORTANT : WAMUG Mailing List upcoming change

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Neil and others, I too agree with Daniel's proposed direction. 
Whilst I am a limited user of Facebook for my specific hobby areas
only (BBQ/smoking, beer brewing and car enthusiast sites), I am not
sure how Facebook could provide a search mechanism for previous
correspondence on an issue where it gets held on the server for search
engine recovery. Maybe there is a way. There is potentially a way
Facebook could augment WAMUG in the future - in addition to the server
environment for rapid Q on topics, maybe this would supersede the
server environment over time. 
Also - just my comments on this topic - thanks for the details 
Daniel.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Sent:Tue, 17 May 2022 12:07:36 +0800
Subject:Re: [WAMUG] IMPORTANT : WAMUG Mailing List upcoming change

Hi all,

 

I must admit, like Stephen, I have stayed away from Facebook and
Google.

 

In the past, I did set up Facebook, Google and Twitter accounts but
only so that, in my previous role as webmaster of Gilbert’s Potoroo
Action Group, I could setup Facebook and Twitter pages and a  YouTube
channel for the group.

 

Since then, I have stayed away from these, except for watching
interesting YouTube content, and had pretty much decided to delete my
Facebook account – Mr Zuckerberg’s vision for the metaverse
probably only added to that feeling – anyone else remember 2nd
life!!

 

So, my vote would definitely be for Daniel’s original plan, rather
than anything to do with Facebook.

 

 

Just my 2c worth ;o)

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

 

FROM:  on behalf of Stephen Chape 
REPLY-TO: WAMUG 
DATE: Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 10:30
TO: WAMUG 
SUBJECT: Re: [WAMUG] IMPORTANT : WAMUG Mailing List upcoming change

 

Mmmm ….. Facebook sounds reasonable Rod.

But I guess only if it makes life easier for those wonderful people
running our group.

 

The two most invasive things I have stayed away from are Facebook and
Google.

And so do many of my family and some friends.

 

But lately I registered once again with Facebook in order to use
Marketplace.

I am very surprised and pleased by the changes they have made.

 

This time I have NOT been inundated with “please be my friend”
and a myriad of other unwanted messages.

So far I am happy to remain with Facebook.

On 17 May 2022, at 9:11 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:

 

Thanks Daniel and Committe.

Any thoughts re replacing the list with a FaceBook Group?

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  rb...@iinet.net.au 

On 16 May 2022, at 6:45 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

 

Hi All

We’ve recently been advised that unfortunately our current host is
no longer able to support where the WAMUG list has been sitting in
Perth for many years. As time’s gone by, it’s now the only list
sitting on a very old server and is due to be “decommissioned”.
Because of this, we are having to look to move it. The new space it
will sitting in is still hosted in Australia.

The good news is that there is still somewhere we can move it to that
uses the same type of software it’s run on. Which in theory should
mean there is no change to how the list will work. It will be “just
like normal” for day to day things.
The bad news is, it will cost us a little extra each year to run it.
However, the membership cost will easily cover this. So doesn’t mean
an increase in costs to all. So I guess that’s “good bad” news.
:)

We discussed this within the committee and all are happy to look at
the move.
In theory there shouldn’t be any disruption to the list in the
transition period and I’ll let people know before and after it’s
 been completed. Hopefully, it should also mean that there are more
current updates installed to the backend of what runs the list - so
that’s good news as well.

There’s a little bit of work to get it all organised. But hopefully
as mentioned, it shouldn’t affect the running of the list. 
Though when it’s down, if you do post you may not see your message
arrive. But I’ll certainly let everyone know by a mailing post
before it gets transferred and after it’s completed.

Hopefully this will ensure the list can continue running for many more
years to come!

Thanks in advance for your understanding with this.
If anyone has any queries or concerns, please feel free to post them
to the list and I’ll do my best to answer them.

Thanks!
Kind regards
Daniel
On behalf of WAMUG Committee.

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Re: [WAMUG] External Monitor for MacBook Pro

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Blitto, I bought a pair of Lenovo 24” regular monitors around 18 months ago 
when I had to work from home due to you know what. I use my Windows work laptop 
but they work equally well on my Macbook by plugging into an HDMI port. Mac OS 
figures out what you’ve got and does a pretty good job of setting up. Sometimes 
a few tweaks needed to get scaling correct, but no fundamental flaws. A lot of 
sellers don’t actually know if they work with Mac OSX, can check on the 
manufacturers site for specifics and compatibility. I’d be surprised if there 
was a monitor for sale now that isn’t compatible. At worst you may have to 
download some drivers off the manufacturer site or wait for Mac OSX to auto get 
the drivers for you.

If using multiple external monitors, you might need a third party adaptor to 
have two HDMI ports connect via a single input to the Mac.

Regards

Pete. 

> On 16 May 2022, at 2:34 pm, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> Please can anyone give recommendations on an external monitor for a 2021 
> MacBook Pro?
> Can one buy any external monitor (~$600) or does it have to be mac compatible 
> (~$1000)?
> Thanks
> Blitto 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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Re: [WAMUG] Upgrade to Monterey

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Peter, I doubt Jo will be exploring those outer limits in any case but 
good to know for future.

Regards

Pete.

> On 16 May 2022, at 8:26 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> Running Monterey on my iMac, and Catalina on my creaking 2011 MBP. All 
> running smoothly.
> 
> Live Text in Monterey is one of the more significant benefits, IMHO. First 
> impressions indicate that it will only work in Photos, greatly reducing its 
> usefulness, but it turns out it also works in Quicklook, which makes it truly 
> useful.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 May 2022, at 7:37 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, does anyone have any negative experiences with Monterey OS for 
>> MBP? My old MBP is just too old for the Monterey update but my wife’s much 
>> newer MBP is eligible (currently Big Sur 11.4). She get’s constant reminders 
>> for this update which I say hold off till I can get to it. Does it have any 
>> significant benefits over Big Sur?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback on this one.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Upgrade to Monterey

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for that Tim, that gives me the confidence to get on with it for Jo.

Regards

Pete.

> On 16 May 2022, at 7:47 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Good morning Pete
> 
> I run 11.6.5 Big Sur in my Late 2013 MacBook Pro
> I run 12.3.1 Monterey in my 2017 iMac
> 
> Both run fine and I have no challenges the two OSX not talking to each other. 
> 
> I always update to the latest software for each machine without hesitation.
> 
> Regards
> 
>> On 16 May 2022, at 7:37 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, does anyone have any negative experiences with Monterey OS for 
>> MBP? My old MBP is just too old for the Monterey update but my wife’s much 
>> newer MBP is eligible (currently Big Sur 11.4). She get’s constant reminders 
>> for this update which I say hold off till I can get to it. Does it have any 
>> significant benefits over Big Sur?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback on this one.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
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[WAMUG] Upgrade to Monterey

[Peter Crisp]

Good morning, does anyone have any negative experiences with Monterey OS for 
MBP? My old MBP is just too old for the Monterey update but my wife’s much 
newer MBP is eligible (currently Big Sur 11.4). She get’s constant reminders 
for this update which I say hold off till I can get to it. Does it have any 
significant benefits over Big Sur?

Thanks in advance for any feedback on this one.

Kind Regards

Pete.
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Re: [WAMUG] how do I clear the cache on my iinet Router?

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, briefly turn Wifi off your phone while testing this within the house. That 
might be it Tim.

Regards


Pete

> On 11 May 2022, at 3:33 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Rod does it work on your phone when you are away from the house, ie not on 
> home wifi?
> 
> If yes, your IP may have been blacklisted due to too many login attempts or 
> some other black art. 
> If no, continue on and ignore my idea, I have nothing useful to contribute.  
> :-)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 May 2022, at 3:13 pm, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>> I am setting up a new wordpress blog.
>> The Blog won’t load - "can't find the server".
>> It DOES load when I use my phone.
>> Does this suggest I need to “clear caches”
>> I’ve done that on my laptop browser, but the problem persists.
>> 
>> Please - how do I clear the cache on my iinet Router?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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Re: [WAMUG] Movie format for Smart TV?

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Blitto, thanks for the additional detail there. With preparing and sending 
10 movie files, is there a way to confirm with one file up front to confirm 
file type compatibility prior to going to all that effort?

Also, perhaps if we know the make/model of Smart TV for the recipient, we can 
do some online sleuthing to even confirm prior to any further work what file 
type is compatible?

A quick Google search for Sony smart TV’s yielded the following.

I think the Handbrake (application) will be able to make an export file of the 
movies to suit whatever the recipient’s TV make/model is. 

Also important to know is the maximum single file size limit of 4GB for Ex-Fat 
formatted USB’s. 

Supported file formats for Android TV™/Google TV™:
The file formats that are supported by Media Player from the Google Play Store 
are:

Audio: AAC, FLAC, MP3, MIDI, Vorbis, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, PCM/WAVE, WMA, AC3, DTS
Video: H.263, H.264 AVC,H.265 HEVC, MPEG-4 SP, VP8, VP9 (4K TV only), WMV, VP6, 
MJPEG


Regards

Pete.




> On 2 May 2022, at 9:40 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone
> I think I will go .mp4
> I’ve got 10 movies to send and have compressed them from 4k to 2.7k, each one 
> is still 2 or 3 gb
> cheers
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
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> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 May 2022, at 3:34 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Good idea Pete.
>> 
>> I also have an account with Syn.com  ( a Canadian company).
>> I can upload up to 5GB to my account for no charge (more than Dropbox)
>> Then from Sync.com  I send an email to a recipient with a 
>> link to download.
>> This works really well as I have relatives in UK and in Dubai.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 May 2022, at 3:21 pm, Pete >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I’d have thought .mov or if that fails try mp4. 
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, is there a way via Sending the files via a cloud service 
>>> (like Google Drive) for the recipient to grab at  their end by their smart 
>>> tv?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
 On 1 May 2022, at 2:28 pm, Stephen Chape >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Rod.
 I have always used MOV for that purpose.
 Only ever had one TV that would not speak that language.
 
> On 1 May 2022, at 12:00 pm, Rod Blitvich  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I am sending some movies on a USB drive to someone who wishes to view on 
> their smart TV.
> Will .mov on a standard USB drive work ok for them?
> Thank you
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WAMUG] Music - "This device is already associated with an Apple ID"

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Neil, I have only ever had the one Apple ID and it is showing correctly in 
the Settings panel. So can safely say that’s not my issue here. Thanks for the 
tip though Neil.

Pete.

> On 29 Mar 2022, at 1:04 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete,
>  
> Probably a long shot but, way back in the past, I used two different Apple 
> IDs (long story - one was for things that were only available through the US 
> iTunes store).
>  
> Is there any way that you possibly have two Apple IDs and you have linked the 
> new  iPad and iPhone to a different ID to the MacBook (or possibly even 
> created a new ID when you setup one of the new devices) – this could explain 
> the message and why the devices are not showing up against your main ID (the 
> MacBook one).
>  
>  
> Just a thought.
>  
>  
> Cheers
>  
>  
> Neil
>  
>  
>  
> From:  <mailto:wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au>> on behalf of Peter 
> Crisp mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>>
> Reply-To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
> Date: Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 10:57
> To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
> Subject: [WAMUG] Music - "This device is already associated with an Apple ID"
>  
> Hi folks, a short while ago I bought an iPad Air 4 and did the usual easy 
> Apple setup which all went fine. A few days into this new ownership I tried 
> the Music app to play some song (I am an Apple Music Subscriber) Phil Collins 
> Sussudio from the No Jacket Required album. On the iPad screen I got the 
> following.
>  
> This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or Transfer.
> 
> 
> 
> I have read lots of threads (Apple Discussions as well as others) on trying 
> to resolve this issue but I have been unsuccessful. 
> 
> 
> I am able to play this very same selected song from my Macbook (owned since 
> new in 2013) Music app with no issues. 
> 
> 
> I also did get myself a new (near new) iPhone 11 last week too - same problem 
> there “This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or 
> Transfer”. Is it possible that both of these devices had a previous owner is 
> the cause of this? They were provided to me in an erased state but I did a 
> full erase of each before my set up though. 
>  
> I have also Managed the device count with my Apple ID and all old devices 
> purged for there, still no change.
>  
> I hope someone has had this and successfully resolved so keen to hear tips.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Pete.
>  
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Re: [WAMUG] Music - "This device is already associated with an Apple ID"

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Robin, thanks and I do agree with you here. But when the device was 
purchased, the previous owner had erased the device (both of them) and so to do 
that, they necessarily have to sign out of their Apple account to do the erase. 
But I assume it is still possible the device remains associated with the 
previous owner’s Apple iD. I have asked them to check so will wait to see.

If I have to go down the path of option 1 below, how do I even confirm 
ownership of the device without a verifiable receipt? The iPhone i have a 
transaction with eBay seller, the iPad I don’t. I presume I could get a 
statement from her as she was the original purchaser.

Regards

Peter.

> On 29 Mar 2022, at 12:56 pm, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> I think you have a deeper problem. As you have described these devices as 
> being used, that is having a previous owner I think they are still associated 
> with the previous owners iTunes id, which is/can be different from their 
> iCloud id.
> In earlier versions of iOS an extra step of diss-association of the device 
> from iTunes was required and perhaps this was not done prior to disposal by 
> the previous owner.
> 
> At this stage you have three options;
> go to an Apple Store and get your device reset, providing you can establish 
> your bonifide ownership of said device.
> if you know the previous owner tale it to them and get them to logout of 
> iTunes on your (new/used) devices.
> jailbreak your device as detailed in the link from Ronni.
> regards,
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2022, at 3:37 pm, Peter Crisp > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, I have had a read of this and it takes me down the same path 
>> suggesting I have too many devices associated to the Apple ID. I previously 
>> purged all old devices I no longer have from being associated (there were 
>> many) and I now have just 2 devices left associated with my Apple ID (I 
>> believe Apple permits up to 10 devices). But my new (used) iPad Air 4 and 
>> iPhone 11, neither are showing as associated devices in my “Manage Devices” 
>> window. All my playlists work in the Music app on these devices - made up of 
>> subscribed music and self bought music. I bought the iPad on Jan 13 2022 so 
>> still less than 90 days from when the previous owner disassociated her Apple 
>> ID from the iPad and iPhone was delivered just last week. I suppose I have 
>> to wait until April 13th (90 days from purchase date) to see if the iPad 
>> corrects itself. I can’t see what else it can be.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>>> On 29 Mar 2022, at 12:15 pm, Ronni Brown >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> Have you read this 
>>> 
>>> https://www.ultfone.com/icloud/fix-this-device-is-already-associated-with-an-apple-id.html
>>>  
>>> <https://www.ultfone.com/icloud/fix-this-device-is-already-associated-with-an-apple-id.html>
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Mar 2022, at 10:57 am, Peter Crisp >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks, a short while ago I bought an iPad Air 4 and did the usual easy 
>>>> Apple setup which all went fine. A few days into this new ownership I 
>>>> tried the Music app to play some song (I am an Apple Music Subscriber) 
>>>> Phil Collins Sussudio from the No Jacket Required album. On the iPad 
>>>> screen I got the following.
>>>> 
>>>> This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or Transfer.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have read lots of threads (Apple Discussions as well as others) on 
>>>> trying to resolve this issue but I have been unsuccessful. 
>>>> 
>>>> I am able to play this very same selected song from my Macbook (owned 
>>>> since new in 2013) Music app with no issues. 
>>>> 
>>>> I also did get myself a new (near new) iPhone 11 last week too - same 
>>>> problem there “This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel 
>>>> or Transfer”. Is it possible that both of these devices had a previous 
>>>> owner is the cause of this? They were provided to me in an erased state 
>>>> but I did a full erase of each before my set up though. 
>>>> 
>>>> I have also Managed the device count with my Apple ID and all old devices 
>>>> purged for there, still no c

Re: [WAMUG] Music - "This device is already associated with an Apple ID"

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, I have had a read of this and it takes me down the same path 
suggesting I have too many devices associated to the Apple ID. I previously 
purged all old devices I no longer have from being associated (there were many) 
and I now have just 2 devices left associated with my Apple ID (I believe Apple 
permits up to 10 devices). But my new (used) iPad Air 4 and iPhone 11, neither 
are showing as associated devices in my “Manage Devices” window. All my 
playlists work in the Music app on these devices - made up of subscribed music 
and self bought music. I bought the iPad on Jan 13 2022 so still less than 90 
days from when the previous owner disassociated her Apple ID from the iPad and 
iPhone was delivered just last week. I suppose I have to wait until April 13th 
(90 days from purchase date) to see if the iPad corrects itself. I can’t see 
what else it can be.

Regards

Pete.

> On 29 Mar 2022, at 12:15 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Have you read this 
> 
> https://www.ultfone.com/icloud/fix-this-device-is-already-associated-with-an-apple-id.html
>  
> <https://www.ultfone.com/icloud/fix-this-device-is-already-associated-with-an-apple-id.html>
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2022, at 10:57 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks, a short while ago I bought an iPad Air 4 and did the usual easy 
>> Apple setup which all went fine. A few days into this new ownership I tried 
>> the Music app to play some song (I am an Apple Music Subscriber) Phil 
>> Collins Sussudio from the No Jacket Required album. On the iPad screen I got 
>> the following.
>> 
>> This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or Transfer.
>> 
>> 
>> I have read lots of threads (Apple Discussions as well as others) on trying 
>> to resolve this issue but I have been unsuccessful. 
>> 
>> I am able to play this very same selected song from my Macbook (owned since 
>> new in 2013) Music app with no issues. 
>> 
>> I also did get myself a new (near new) iPhone 11 last week too - same 
>> problem there “This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or 
>> Transfer”. Is it possible that both of these devices had a previous owner is 
>> the cause of this? They were provided to me in an erased state but I did a 
>> full erase of each before my set up though. 
>> 
>> I have also Managed the device count with my Apple ID and all old devices 
>> purged for there, still no change.
>> 
>> I hope someone has had this and successfully resolved so keen to hear tips.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
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Re: [WAMUG] Music - "This device is already associated with an Apple ID"

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, thanks I’ve not tried that particular one before, I am reading it now 
and hopefully this will get me sorted out.

Will advise back here either way.

Regards

Pete.

> On 29 Mar 2022, at 12:10 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Have you read this 
> 
> https://www.ultfone.com/icloud/fix-this-device-is-already-associated-with-an-apple-id.html
>  
> <https://www.ultfone.com/icloud/fix-this-device-is-already-associated-with-an-apple-id.html>
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2022, at 10:57 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks, a short while ago I bought an iPad Air 4 and did the usual easy 
>> Apple setup which all went fine. A few days into this new ownership I tried 
>> the Music app to play some song (I am an Apple Music Subscriber) Phil 
>> Collins Sussudio from the No Jacket Required album. On the iPad screen I got 
>> the following.
>> 
>> This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or Transfer.
>> 
>> 
>> I have read lots of threads (Apple Discussions as well as others) on trying 
>> to resolve this issue but I have been unsuccessful. 
>> 
>> I am able to play this very same selected song from my Macbook (owned since 
>> new in 2013) Music app with no issues. 
>> 
>> I also did get myself a new (near new) iPhone 11 last week too - same 
>> problem there “This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or 
>> Transfer”. Is it possible that both of these devices had a previous owner is 
>> the cause of this? They were provided to me in an erased state but I did a 
>> full erase of each before my set up though. 
>> 
>> I have also Managed the device count with my Apple ID and all old devices 
>> purged for there, still no change.
>> 
>> I hope someone has had this and successfully resolved so keen to hear tips.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
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[WAMUG] Music - "This device is already associated with an Apple ID"

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, a short while ago I bought an iPad Air 4 and did the usual easy Apple 
setup which all went fine. A few days into this new ownership I tried the Music 
app to play some song (I am an Apple Music Subscriber) Phil Collins Sussudio 
from the No Jacket Required album. On the iPad screen I got the following.

This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or Transfer.


I have read lots of threads (Apple Discussions as well as others) on trying to 
resolve this issue but I have been unsuccessful. 

I am able to play this very same selected song from my Macbook (owned since new 
in 2013) Music app with no issues. 

I also did get myself a new (near new) iPhone 11 last week too - same problem 
there “This device is already associated with an Apple ID Cancel or Transfer”. 
Is it possible that both of these devices had a previous owner is the cause of 
this? They were provided to me in an erased state but I did a full erase of 
each before my set up though. 

I have also Managed the device count with my Apple ID and all old devices 
purged for there, still no change.

I hope someone has had this and successfully resolved so keen to hear tips.

Regards

Pete.

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Re: [WAMUG] Cannot get external monitor to display full resolution

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Neil, I read this with interest as I too have found the adaption of external 
monitors with Mac’s a bit hit and miss. 

As a test, do you have on hand a late model Mac/Macbook you could see if the 
later OSX is smarter in this sense and how it recognises the external monitor 
when you plug it in using the leads you currently have and get the quick 
systems report for the connected monitor. Your 2009 Mac is certainly high spec 
but by being 2009, it is held back to older OSX versions and perhaps this may 
be the issue. You may have to get yourself a late model iMac but I wouldn’t 
resort to that yet.

Pete.

> On 25 Mar 2022, at 1:48 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> OK, here is the iMac setup:
>  
> Late 2009 27” iMac – top configuration, 2.8 GHz core i7, Graphics ATI Radeon 
> HD 4850 512 MB
> iMac has been reconfigured with 250 GB SSD, 3TB internal drive and currently 
> 20GB RAM
> Currently running El Capitan OSX 10.11.6
>  
> With the SSD and RAM upgrade this is still pretty snappy and I am frequently 
> running multiple Excel spreadsheets and/or multiple browser windows with many 
> tabs in each – which took me to a second monitor.
>  
> For a while I had a 27” full HD 1920x1080 monitor running, which all worked 
> fine but I found the discontinuity of tracking from the 2560x1440 iMac screen 
> to the 1920x1080 monitor screen sufficiently annoying that I ended up 
> reducing the iMac resolution to 1920x1080 to match the monitor – which I 
> found much more useable.
>  
> However it seemed a shame to have to resort to downgrading the iMac 
> resolution – so, given that the iMac can support video output up to 2560x1600 
> - I decided to upgrade the monitor!
>  
> I found a good deal on a 31.5” monitor with 2560x1440 resolution – the same 
> as the iMac native resolution this was the product (though it was only $355 
> when I bought it)
> https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08J3S6BT4 
> 
>  
> I was pretty happy when after promising delivery by March 30 to April 11 they 
> actually delivered it yesterday – 2 days after I ordered it!
>  
> So all setup and ready to go – and it is all working fine EXCEPT, despite the 
> monitor having 2560x1440 resolution,  the maximum resolution offered in  the 
> OSX display preferences is 1080i, ie 1920x1080 and a quick systems report 
> shows that the iMac recognises the display as:
> LEN D32qc-20:
>   Resolution:   1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz (1080i)
>   Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB)
>   Mirror:   Off
>   Online:   Yes
>   Rotation:   Supported
>   Interlaced:Yes
>   Television:Yes
>  
> In my setup the monitor connection is by a direct mini display port to hdmi 
> cable (no adaptors) as this was readily available when I bought my previous 
> monitor.
>  
> I have googled this and find that this is not an uncommon problem and not 
> specific to any particular monitor but seems to be a problem with the Mac 
> recognising the availability of the higher resolution of an attached monitor. 
> People seem to have mixed success in resolving this problem but some seem to 
> have more luck with Display port connections, rather than hdmi, recognising 
> higher resolutions and this monitor does have a display port input as well as 
> hdmi.
>  
> So, I guess, the question is – does anyone have any experience of driving 
> higher resolution monitors from older imacs? Is buying a new cable such as 
> this:
> https://www.amazon.com.au/Rankie-DisplayPort-Cable-Resolution-Ready/dp/B00YOQYQWY
>  
> 
> or this:
> https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/comsol-displayport-to-mini-displayport-4k-cable-2m-comdpdp020
>  
> 
>  
> likely to solve my problem?
>  
> Any feedback gratefully received!
>  
> Cheers
>  
>  
> Neil
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Re: [WAMUG} Extending a wifi network

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Adam, sorry for late response on this. I had been using a Time
Capsule with an ethernet connected Airport Express down the end of
house for WiFi extension for my kids - it has been poor at best.
Finally I told my son to do a bit of research and I will look into
anything to consider next option. He looked around and said "What
about the Google Nest mesh solution". I thought about it and figured
no way will that be compatible and still be able to to the Time
Capsule backups at the same time. 
Well, have a read of this below.
It actually works really well, from my NBN into the house, the Cat 6
plugs straight into the Nest base point. The Apple Time Capsule then
plugs into the  port of the Nest. Then you set up the two additional
(or one if you just get one) remote mesh wifi points and configure
them using the Google Home app, all very easy. And it just works. And
- my Wifi signal down the back of the house is super quick -
60-70mbps. 
Kids are now happy can all concurrently stream as much as they like
with no chattering to the stream. 

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251071805
It's worth considering.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:"wamug@wamug.org.au" 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 13 Dec 2021 11:03:38 +0800
Subject:[WAMUG} Extending a wifi network

 Hi all

 I need to extend wifi into the garage for some remote switches. I
currently have a time capsule which provides a Wi-Fi network at home
and I was thinking of sourcing an inexpensive AirPort Extreme base
station and place it where the signal is still good and use it as a
bridge. 

 Does anyone have a view on this?

 Thanks

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Re: [WAMUG} Member Subscriptions

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Bernard, my Subs now paid. 

Regards


Peter

> On 25 Apr 2021, at 1:13 pm, Bernard Barnwell  wrote:
> 
> Hello Stephen,
>   Correction to the BSB 306075, Thanks for spotting that.
>   Regards Bernard
> 
>> On 25 Apr 2021, at 12:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello and thank you Bernard.
>> So the same Account Number as previous, but a different BSB.
>> Is that correct ?
>> 
>>> On 25 Apr 2021, at 11:57 am, Bernard Barnwell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all Members,
>>> After nearly six Months our bank is now 
>>> accepting a change of Treasurer and we can now accept renewal of 
>>> Membership. Our Bank details are Bankwest, BSB 886701 A/c 4197787. Thank you
>>> 
>>> Regards Bernard Barnwell Treasurer
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Re: [WAMUG} Time Machine Backup - post Big Sur and full backup drive

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, thanks for that, I think I read this some years ago and will
use this when I do at some point go for a larger TM backup disc. Late
yesterday I looked at the status and it had in fact moved to the
backing up phase - so it had purged sufficient space from old backups
to permit the new backup to run. When I glanced at it, it had backed
up ~30GB of 230GB - so it is a substantial backup resulting from the
MS Office update and the Big Sur update combined. 
This confirms my confidence in TM as patience is important. When it
says it is doing something - it probably is doing something and to
leave it be to allow it to complete what it is doing. Around the time
of my earlier email here, I thought it might accelerate the process if
I plugged in my ethernet connection to the Time Capsule directly as
WiFi would probably have been slower than with an ethernet connection.
I watched the Network connection panel as I connected the ethernet and
it did connect so I assume the data processes between the MBP and the
TM backup disc (a 2TB portable drive attached via hub to the USB of
the TC). 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: [WAMUG} Time Machine Backup - post Big Sur and full backup
drive

 Hi Peter,Have a read of my Tutorial 
http://www.ronnibrown.net/tutorials/migrate-to-a-larger-time/index.html
[1]

Kind Regards,

Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 

On 12 Apr 2021, at 12:31 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi folks, during last week following my plunge into getting my MS
Office 365 subscription in order - which was an inhibitor for moving
to Big Sur (as my MS Office 2011 was not compatible with Big Sur) - I
then have done the Big Sur update. I am pretty happy with it and no
gotchas for me yet with anything.
However, during all these significant updates I turn off my TM backup
so I can manage the timing for when the next TM Backup takes place -
as I knew it would be a substantial backup. So on Sunday morning I
turned it on, whereupon it goes searching for the drive - found no
problem, then “Preparing Backup” this took a number of hours, then
it starts the process of “Freeing space” as my 2TB backup drive
(dedicated to my Macbook) is full. No problem, this has been the case
for the last few months and while it has taken some time to purge the
oldest backups to make space for the new backup, I thought it will
take a good deal of time. But this has been 24 hours+ now. Does anyone
else have this same set of circumstances I have and timing. I am
inclined to allow it to continue like this for days if needed as it
doesn’t really bother me. Keen to hear others experiences or could
this be in an endless Big Sur loop I need to intervene?
Pete.

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[WAMUG} Time Machine Backup - post Big Sur and full backup drive

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, during last week following my plunge into getting my MS Office 365 
subscription in order - which was an inhibitor for moving to Big Sur (as my MS 
Office 2011 was not compatible with Big Sur) - I then have done the Big Sur 
update. I am pretty happy with it and no gotchas for me yet with anything.

However, during all these significant updates I turn off my TM backup so I can 
manage the timing for when the next TM Backup takes place - as I knew it would 
be a substantial backup. So on Sunday morning I turned it on, whereupon it goes 
searching for the drive - found no problem, then “Preparing Backup” this took a 
number of hours, then it starts the process of “Freeing space” as my 2TB backup 
drive (dedicated to my Macbook) is full. No problem, this has been the case for 
the last few months and while it has taken some time to purge the oldest 
backups to make space for the new backup, I thought it will take a good deal of 
time. But this has been 24 hours+ now. Does anyone else have this same set of 
circumstances I have and timing. I am inclined to allow it to continue like 
this for days if needed as it doesn’t really bother me. Keen to hear others 
experiences or could this be in an endless Big Sur loop I need to intervene?

Pete.



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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

No problem Stephen. This problem for me was triggered by my wife's
need for Excel and her MBP failing and in upgrading from that phase I
went to a barely used 2016 MBP - which I knew would necessitate some
sort of MS Office solution for her (as Big Sur is incompatible with
the MS Office 2008 (!!!) version that had been functioning on her now
failed MBP). So it was either $199 for a single licence or ~$55/year
(after employee discount and tax refund component) for 6 licences (for
the whole family), version updating provided automatically, 1TB per
user cloud storage. It seemed a no brainer for me. 
To be honest I have never used Pages or Numbers - but undoubtedly they
can deliver. All my colleagues use the MS Office format so it seems no
point using the Apple formats just for my own principles. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
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Sent:Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:23:42 +0800
Subject:Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

 Gosh Peter !You make me wonder about upgrading my MS Office in the
future.
I used to use Pages and Numbers years ago, but moved to Office because
of the incompatibilities.But from what you say it sounds like things
have changed from that point of view.
Thank you for your input.

On 30 Mar 2021, at 8:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

On 29 Mar 2021, at 5:00 pm, Pete  wrote:
Hi Neil, yes I agree with your comments below. My deal was 30% off the
regular Microsoft price of $129 I think brought it down to $90 odd.
Then with tax deductibility down to $55 there abouts. Happy with
that. 
The discount continues as well for all years I remain subscribed.

Regards
Pete

As much  as I hate both subscription-based software, and have an
aversion to Microsoft Office software, I decided several years ago to
take out an Office 365 subscription.
 It is extremely difficult to work in a professional environment with
Microsoft Office. It is simply a necessary evil. Despite my
misgivings, I do recognise that Office 365 actually represents
extremely good value. At $99 p.a., and a with a renewl coming up in
April, I will be happy to pay it. I givers me the ability to instal it
on every device I own, and to able to operate trouble-free with all
Office documents people send me.
Having said all that, I rarely use any of the Office products for
document creation. I  find them overblown, confusing, and laden with
features that often don’t work very well. I’m much happier working
with Pages for most document creation, and I’ll always use Numbers
in preference to Excel if I need a spreadsheet. It’s simply a more
elegant product, and more than meets my needs. If I need to
collaborate with an Office user, Isimply export as Word or Excel. The
compatibility with modern versions of both platform is very good.
The truly frustrating thing about it is, even more than the terrible
software that it is, is the many things that I see people try to do
with it when there are much more appropriate, simple and cheap ways to
achieve the same ends. For example, so many people seem to like to use
Excel as a database solution. It’s a terrible idea, for so many
reasons I haven’t got time to go into here. Being a filemaker
Developer I naturally go t Filemaker for a database solution, but
there are many easy, inexepensive solutions, all of which are better
than Excel. That's just one example.
I could go on, but I won’t. Suffice to say I have never regretted my
decision to take an Office 365 subscription.

 Kind regards,
Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.  
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

No problem Stephen. This problem for me was triggered by my wife's
need for Excel and her MBP failing and in upgrading from that phase I
went to a barely used 2016 MBP - which I knew would necessitate some
sort of MS Office solution for her (as Big Sur is incompatible with
the MS Office 2008 (!!!) version that had been functioning on her now
failed MBP). So it was either $199 for a single licence or ~$55/year
(after employee discount and tax refund component) for 6 licences (for
the whole family), version updating provided automatically, 1TB per
user cloud storage. It seemed a no brainer for me. 
To be honest I have never used Pages or Numbers - but undoubtedly they
can deliver. All my colleagues use the MS Office format so it seems no
point using the Apple formats just for my own principles. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:23:42 +0800
Subject:Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

 Gosh Peter !You make me wonder about upgrading my MS Office in the
future.
I used to use Pages and Numbers years ago, but moved to Office because
of the incompatibilities.But from what you say it sounds like things
have changed from that point of view.
Thank you for your input.

On 30 Mar 2021, at 8:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

On 29 Mar 2021, at 5:00 pm, Pete  wrote:
Hi Neil, yes I agree with your comments below. My deal was 30% off the
regular Microsoft price of $129 I think brought it down to $90 odd.
Then with tax deductibility down to $55 there abouts. Happy with
that. 
The discount continues as well for all years I remain subscribed.

Regards
Pete

As much  as I hate both subscription-based software, and have an
aversion to Microsoft Office software, I decided several years ago to
take out an Office 365 subscription.
 It is extremely difficult to work in a professional environment with
Microsoft Office. It is simply a necessary evil. Despite my
misgivings, I do recognise that Office 365 actually represents
extremely good value. At $99 p.a., and a with a renewl coming up in
April, I will be happy to pay it. I givers me the ability to instal it
on every device I own, and to able to operate trouble-free with all
Office documents people send me.
Having said all that, I rarely use any of the Office products for
document creation. I  find them overblown, confusing, and laden with
features that often don’t work very well. I’m much happier working
with Pages for most document creation, and I’ll always use Numbers
in preference to Excel if I need a spreadsheet. It’s simply a more
elegant product, and more than meets my needs. If I need to
collaborate with an Office user, Isimply export as Word or Excel. The
compatibility with modern versions of both platform is very good.
The truly frustrating thing about it is, even more than the terrible
software that it is, is the many things that I see people try to do
with it when there are much more appropriate, simple and cheap ways to
achieve the same ends. For example, so many people seem to like to use
Excel as a database solution. It’s a terrible idea, for so many
reasons I haven’t got time to go into here. Being a filemaker
Developer I naturally go t Filemaker for a database solution, but
there are many easy, inexepensive solutions, all of which are better
than Excel. That's just one example.
I could go on, but I won’t. Suffice to say I have never regretted my
decision to take an Office 365 subscription.

 Kind regards,
Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.  
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Regards
Stephen Chape

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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, indeed Jewels. The one off license is now $199, I would be up for 1 now 
and another soon I suspect, but I eventually decided to go with Office 365 
(family - 6 users) but my employer is an MS user and via that as an employee i 
am eligible for a 30% ongoing annual discount. So deal is done. Tax deductible 
too, so whilst on principle I didn’t want to lock in for ‘life’, it is done - 
net cost to me ~$55/annum.

Regards

Pete.

> On 29 Mar 2021, at 1:48 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> That’s a shame. I think I paid around $165 a year ago for a one off license.
> 
> Jewels
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2021, at 10:09 am, Peter Crisp > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks again, thanks for responses, I’ve followed up with both of those 
>> vendors and they can provide a Single machine once off installation of 
>> Office but I want a multi user version (they were available previously but 
>> it seems Microsoft has gone to the annual subscription model - with Office 
>> 365). 
>> 
>> I suppose I am going to have to go the 365 route - for the two of us - as 
>> the kids all have direct access to Office via their school/Curtin Uni 
>> associations so it seems a waste to provide them additional Office access 
>> when they already have it. At $199 per single installation, I’d need two of 
>> them.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete. 
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:54 pm, Stephen Chape >> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got my 2019 from SoftwareDepot.co <http://softwaredepot.co/> in Sydney.
>>> Excellent price.
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:43 pm, Pete >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Jewels, will check them out.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford >>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they 
>>>>> were the cheapest around.  
>>>>> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365 
>>>>> <https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jewels
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp >>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the 
>>>>>> previous thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family 
>>>>>> pack) for my lot here. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not 
>>>>>> the annual renewal option?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

HI Marcus, yes you’re right, Apple does do equivalent applications but both my 
wife and I are back and forth sharing documents (Word) and spreadsheets (Excel) 
in both directions for various work related things (which are Windows based 
environments) for convenience to ourselves. Maybe they do transition in both 
directions seamlessly but I haven’t verified that - my wife would struggle to 
go back and forth between Office and Mac applications of the same file.

Line of least resistance is my objective here.

Regards

Pete.

> On 29 Mar 2021, at 10:16 am, Marcus Harris  wrote:
> 
> Excuse my ignorance but doesn’t Apple provide excellent equivalents of MS 
> Office Pete?
> 
> 
> Marcus 
> Marcus Harris
> Mobile +61417965618
> 
>  
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2021, at 10:10 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks again, thanks for responses, I’ve followed up with both of those 
>> vendors and they can provide a Single machine once off installation of 
>> Office but I want a multi user version (they were available previously but 
>> it seems Microsoft has gone to the annual subscription model - with Office 
>> 365). 
>> 
>> I suppose I am going to have to go the 365 route - for the two of us - as 
>> the kids all have direct access to Office via their school/Curtin Uni 
>> associations so it seems a waste to provide them additional Office access 
>> when they already have it. At $199 per single installation, I’d need two of 
>> them.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete. 
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:54 pm, Stephen Chape >> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got my 2019 from SoftwareDepot.co <http://softwaredepot.co/> in Sydney.
>>> Excellent price.
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:43 pm, Pete >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Jewels, will check them out.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford >>>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pete
>>>>> 
>>>>> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they 
>>>>> were the cheapest around.  
>>>>> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365 
>>>>> <https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jewels
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp >>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the 
>>>>>> previous thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family 
>>>>>> pack) for my lot here. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not 
>>>>>> the annual renewal option?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks again, thanks for responses, I’ve followed up with both of those 
vendors and they can provide a Single machine once off installation of Office 
but I want a multi user version (they were available previously but it seems 
Microsoft has gone to the annual subscription model - with Office 365). 

I suppose I am going to have to go the 365 route - for the two of us - as the 
kids all have direct access to Office via their school/Curtin Uni associations 
so it seems a waste to provide them additional Office access when they already 
have it. At $199 per single installation, I’d need two of them.

Regards

Pete. 

> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:54 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Got my 2019 from SoftwareDepot.co <http://softwaredepot.co/> in Sydney.
> Excellent price.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:43 pm, Pete > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Jewels, will check them out.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford >> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Pete
>>> 
>>> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they 
>>> were the cheapest around.  
>>> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365 
>>> <https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the previous 
>>>> thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family pack) for 
>>>> my lot here. 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not 
>>>> the annual renewal option?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Stephen. Will be pursuing this today.

Regards

Pete.

> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:54 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Got my 2019 from SoftwareDepot.co <http://softwaredepot.co/> in Sydney.
> Excellent price.
> 
>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:43 pm, Pete > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Jewels, will check them out.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 10:16 pm, Julie Bedford >> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Pete
>>> 
>>> I purchased my one off MS Office license from itech.  At the time, they 
>>> were the cheapest around.  
>>> https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365 
>>> <https://www.i-tech.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=microsoft+office+365>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jewels
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Mar 2021, at 8:25 pm, Peter Crisp >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the previous 
>>>> thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family pack) for 
>>>> my lot here. 
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not 
>>>> the annual renewal option?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
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[WAMUG} MS Office for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, I searched through the archives and couldn’t locate the previous 
thread, but I need to buy an updated MS Office license (family pack) for my lot 
here. 

Can anyone recommend a seller for this - I want the one off purchase not the 
annual renewal option?

Thanks in advance.

Regards


Pete
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Re: [WAMUG} MacBook Pro 2011 failed

[Peter Crisp]

Hi thanks for that Robin. I downloaded that and trawled through it. It seems 
the SATA drive storage format was used up until mid 2012 so that is giving me 
the range of what to look for. 

Alternatives are still to go later and then with a later machine (MBP or MBA) 
with minimum 500GB storage use the Migration assistant to do the transfer from 
the removed SATA drive using my SATA adaptor (from my wife failed MBP) into the 
new machine. 

I suppose newer is always better.

Regards

Peter.

> On 12 Mar 2021, at 7:51 am, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Hi peter,
> 
> I suggest you download this app and trawl your way through the storage specs 
> for suitable machines.
> https://mactracker.ca <https://mactracker.ca/>
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robin
> 
>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 7:33 pm, Peter Crisp > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi team, my wife’s 2011 MBP has failed with grey screen. I couldn’t 
>> resurrect it and was prepared to write it off and use the TM back up to 
>> restore into a new machine. I thought one last check so I pulled out the SSD 
>> that I installed in it many years ago (along with extra RAM) and using my 
>> SATA  adaptor, used the removed SSD as the boot drive on my MBP 2013 Retina. 
>> 
>> So I think the MBP chassis is stuffed and I’m looking for another that will 
>> accomodate the 2.5” SSD SATA drive which seems fine. 
>> 
>> Does anyone know how late I can go to get an MBP that accommodates the 2.5” 
>> SATA drive? Does a MacBook Air take that sort of drive and would there be 
>> any compatibility issues with going to a later model MBP or MBA with the SSD?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
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[WAMUG} MacBook Pro 2011 failed

[Peter Crisp]

Hi team, my wife’s 2011 MBP has failed with grey screen. I couldn’t resurrect 
it and was prepared to write it off and use the TM back up to restore into a 
new machine. I thought one last check so I pulled out the SSD that I installed 
in it many years ago (along with extra RAM) and using my SATA  adaptor, used 
the removed SSD as the boot drive on my MBP 2013 Retina. 

So I think the MBP chassis is stuffed and I’m looking for another that will 
accomodate the 2.5” SSD SATA drive which seems fine. 

Does anyone know how late I can go to get an MBP that accommodates the 2.5” 
SATA drive? Does a MacBook Air take that sort of drive and would there be any 
compatibility issues with going to a later model MBP or MBA with the SSD?

Regards


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Re: [WAMUG} Finally a win with Apple .... YAY !!

[Peter Crisp]

HI Stephen, yes that is very poor that firstly the iMac performed so poorly and 
THEN Apple had the cheek to suggest you need to upgrade your 2019 iMAC!!

Not good enough. I am glad you got satisfaction eventually. I suppose we await 
to hear if the unit does in fact perform the way it should after you get it 
back.

Regards


Pete

> On 31 Jan 2021, at 4:19 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> In May 2020 my daughter purchased a new iMac through our local Apple Retailer.
> 
> iMac Retina 4K, 21.5 inch, 2019
> 
> 8GB 2400 MHz DDR4, Mac 1TB Hard Drive
> 
> Radeon Pro 555X 2GB
> 
> At the very beginning it was a noticeably slow machine. But as time has 
> passed it became extremely slow. Switch on to Login became 4 minutes 15 
> seconds. Opening and closing files became incredibly slow. Even opening email 
> attachments took ages.
> 
> I tried checking for Malware, starting in Safe Mode, cleaning out all unused 
> rubbish, but it still got worse.
> 
> Finally, on 28 October I returned it to the Apple Dealer and asked them to 
> look for the problem. They spent two days running tests and found nothing. 
> They then told me that when Apple released Catalina it was only optimised to 
> run with an SSD. I find that hard to believe because my wife’s 2012 iMac runs 
> Catalina and performs very well with its 1TB Hard Drive. In fact, it starts 
> in 2 minutes 30 seconds.
> 
> On 30 October The Apple Dealer quoted me a price to replace the 1TB Hard 
> Drive with a 500GB SSD. So, I phoned Apple support to ask for advice and to 
> ask about warranty if this work is carried out. Apple Support seemed happy 
> for the dealer to do the work and told me the iMac warranty will still stand. 
> So, I asked the Dealer to go ahead with the SSD upgrade.
> 
> But both my daughter and I were not happy that she had to pay $465.00 (260.00 
> pounds) in order to resolve a major issue with an iMac that is only 5 months 
> old.
> 
> So I wrote to Apple Australia asking them to take this on board and reply 
> with an explanation for this issue. I made the point that because there was 
> no other alternative, this must be regarded as a warranty repair, and not 
> just an upgrade. I told them that I have been an Apple Mac user for about 25 
> years and I have never felt so disappointed with Apple. In my home we use two 
> iMacs, two iPhones and an iPad. Other members of my family also use Macs.
> 
> About a month later I wrote to Apple again because I had not received a 
> response. About a fortnight after that someone phoned me from Apple Australia 
> and after a 20 minute conversation I was told that Apple would never refund 
> the cost so there was no point in taking this any further.
> 
> But, being a stubborn bastard, I wrote to Apple in California. Eventually, 
> about a week ago I had a phone call from a very polite woman from Apple in 
> Singapore. She listened to my story (again). She then asked me to email her 
> the Invoice for the “repair” and then escalated the issue to the refund team.
> 
> I have just received an email from Apple to say that a full refund will be 
> deposited into my bank account in the next few days.
> Although I am back to being a satisfied Apple user, I am still disappointed 
> that this is what it takes to get any attention when things go “pear shaped” 
> with Apple’s products. All the same “thank you Apple”.
> 
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> Stephen Chape
> 
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Re: [WAMUG} IOS Mail keyboard masking content

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Alan, thanks for your reply, it got me thinking and it was the floating 
keyboard which I have now got the keyboard sitting at the bottom of screen and 
now all sorted. 

In experimenting with this I accidentally also got to understand the slide 
typing feature which I have used for years with the Swype third party app on 
iPhone. 

Regards


Pete

> On 16 Jan 2021, at 1:06 pm, Alan Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter
> 
> A possible clue and area for googling - - -.  Quote from an Evernote help 
> posting:  "apparently with the split screen active on the on-screen keyboard, 
> the text will not scroll.”
> 
> I do not have time this weekend to look any further.
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> 
>> On 16 Jan 2021, at 12:48 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> HI folks, I have a problem with a family members iPad. It’s an iPad 3 and 
>> has the latest iOS 14.3. It has just the stock standard iOS keyboard (no 
>> third party keyboards installed) and there is an issue she is having with 
>> the typing of newly started emails when they’re quite long (more than a half 
>> screen (either Portrait or Landscape)). 
>> 
>> The body of the text continues downward line by line as it is typed BEHIND 
>> the keyboard and she is unable to drag the body of text up the screen so 
>> that the typed text is visible. It can be part dragged up, but when finger 
>> is removed from screen, it bounces back down behind the keyboard. This does 
>> not happen on my own iPad Air or iPhone. It only happens with newly 
>> initiated emails on her iPad - not Replies or Forwarding emails. 
>> 
>> I’ve looked at corresponding settings between this iPad 3 and other iPad 
>> devices with no apparent differences. 
>> 
>> Does anyone else have this phenomenon occur or know what else I can try to 
>> resolve it?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
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[WAMUG} IOS Mail keyboard masking content

[Peter Crisp]

HI folks, I have a problem with a family members iPad. It’s an iPad 3 and has 
the latest iOS 14.3. It has just the stock standard iOS keyboard (no third 
party keyboards installed) and there is an issue she is having with the typing 
of newly started emails when they’re quite long (more than a half screen 
(either Portrait or Landscape)). 

The body of the text continues downward line by line as it is typed BEHIND the 
keyboard and she is unable to drag the body of text up the screen so that the 
typed text is visible. It can be part dragged up, but when finger is removed 
from screen, it bounces back down behind the keyboard. This does not happen on 
my own iPad Air or iPhone. It only happens with newly initiated emails on her 
iPad - not Replies or Forwarding emails. 

I’ve looked at corresponding settings between this iPad 3 and other iPad 
devices with no apparent differences. 

Does anyone else have this phenomenon occur or know what else I can try to 
resolve it?

Regards


Pete
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Re: emails

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for confirming that Peter. Is there any pattern in those emails
which are seen on your wife's devices? Are they only from one sender
or is it all senders that end up there? 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"Wamug >" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:42:53 +0800
Subject:Re: emails

 Hi Peter
 We run about 10 different emails from the domain, I’m the primary
account holder and it doesn’t happen with any other email address.
 I’ll have a look anyway but I don’t think it’s that.
 Peter

 > On 25 Nov 2020, at 3:06 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Peter, I see from your email you're with the augold domain name.
I wonder if there are some server set rules in place that might be
directing to your wife's address if she is the "primary" account
holder in your ISP account? Have you had a look in your ISP account
settings?
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Kind Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Peter Crisp
 > 
 > 
 > - Original Message -
 > From:
 > wamug@wamug.org.au
 > 
 > To:
 > "Wamug >" 
 > Cc:
 > 
 > Sent:
 > Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:48:33 +0800
 > Subject:
 > Re: emails
 > 
 > 
 > Hi Peter
 > 
 > We are not using iCloud email addresses
 > We are using the native Apple Mail application.
 > I’ve just checked her iPad and she only has her email address and
credentials, not mine. I do have her email credentials on mine for
various reasons. I don’t mind her getting my emails but the fact she
does is annoying. She, on the other hand, doesn’t want them at all.
 > Rules don’t appear to have special rules at all.
 > I hope this clarify’s it for you
 > Thanks for your assistance
 > Kind regards
 > Peter
 > 
 > > On 25 Nov 2020, at 1:50 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > > 
 > > Hi, I don't believe there is any connection between having the
same Apple ID and distribution of emails - unless using iCloud email
addresses. 
 > > 
 > > First of all I am assuming both of you are using the native Apple
Mail application for your emails in/out. What is below is predicated
on this assumption.
 > > 
 > > Check the Mail>Accounts panel on all devices and make sure that
the devices have the accounts for only those required - ie make sure
the Mail account on your wife's devices don't have a mail account with
your credentials.
 > > 
 > > Have you got any rules set in your Mail account to auto forward
to your Wife's email address?
 > > 
 > > Are you receiving emails intended for your wife?
 > > 
 > > Please answer these and we can go the next step to resolving this
Peter.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Kind Regards
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Peter Crisp
 > > 
 > > 
 > > - Original Message -
 > > From:
 > > wamug@wamug.org.au
 > > 
 > > To:
 > > "WAMUG Mailing List" 
 > > Cc:
 > > 
 > > Sent:
 > > Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:29:59 +0800
 > > Subject:
 > > Re: emails
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Hi Peter.
 > > I have had this issue for some time.
 > > I think it is because we use the same Apple ID.
 > > But I don’t want to change that because it syncs Contacts &
Calendar beautifully.
 > > 
 > > But mine was with Message.
 > > So finally I found this on my iPhone:-
 > > Settings/Message/Send & Receive = here you can select or deselect
mobile number or email.
 > > 
 > > Not sure if this will help your email issue.
 > > But if not, Mail may have something similar in Settings.
 > > 
 > > On 25 Nov 2020, at 11:56 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
 > > 
 > > Hi everyone
 > > My wife receives many of my emails on her computer and ipad. As
far as I know I have not organised this and cannot seem to find out
how to stop this happening.
 > > Can someone give me some information to be able to stop this?
 > > Kind regards
 > > Peter
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Re: emails

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Peter, I see from your email you're with the augold domain name. I
wonder if there are some server set rules in place that might be
directing to your wife's address if she is the "primary" account
holder in your ISP account? Have you had a look in your ISP account
settings?

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"Wamug >" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 25 Nov 2020 14:48:33 +0800
Subject:Re: emails

 Hi Peter

 We are not using iCloud email addresses
 We are using the native Apple Mail application.
 I’ve just checked her iPad and she only has her email address and
credentials, not mine. I do have her email credentials on mine for
various reasons. I don’t mind her getting my emails but the fact she
does is annoying. She, on the other hand, doesn’t want them at all.
 Rules don’t appear to have special rules at all.
 I hope this clarify’s it for you
 Thanks for your assistance
 Kind regards
 Peter

 > On 25 Nov 2020, at 1:50 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi, I don't believe there is any connection between having the same
Apple ID and distribution of emails - unless using iCloud email
addresses. 
 > 
 > First of all I am assuming both of you are using the native Apple
Mail application for your emails in/out. What is below is predicated
on this assumption.
 > 
 > Check the Mail>Accounts panel on all devices and make sure that the
devices have the accounts for only those required - ie make sure the
Mail account on your wife's devices don't have a mail account with
your credentials.
 > 
 > Have you got any rules set in your Mail account to auto forward to
your Wife's email address?
 > 
 > Are you receiving emails intended for your wife?
 > 
 > Please answer these and we can go the next step to resolving this
Peter.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Kind Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Peter Crisp
 > 
 > 
 > - Original Message -
 > From:
 > wamug@wamug.org.au
 > 
 > To:
 > "WAMUG Mailing List" 
 > Cc:
 > 
 > Sent:
 > Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:29:59 +0800
 > Subject:
 > Re: emails
 > 
 > 
 > Hi Peter.
 > I have had this issue for some time.
 > I think it is because we use the same Apple ID.
 > But I don’t want to change that because it syncs Contacts &
Calendar beautifully.
 > 
 > But mine was with Message.
 > So finally I found this on my iPhone:-
 > Settings/Message/Send & Receive = here you can select or deselect
mobile number or email.
 > 
 > Not sure if this will help your email issue.
 > But if not, Mail may have something similar in Settings.
 > 
 > On 25 Nov 2020, at 11:56 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi everyone
 > My wife receives many of my emails on her computer and ipad. As far
as I know I have not organised this and cannot seem to find out how to
stop this happening.
 > Can someone give me some information to be able to stop this?
 > Kind regards
 > Peter
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Re: emails

[Peter Crisp]

Hi, I don't believe there is any connection between having the same
Apple ID and distribution of emails - unless using iCloud email
addresses. 
First of all I am assuming both of you are using the native Apple Mail
application for your emails in/out. What is below is predicated on
this assumption.
Check the Mail>Accounts panel on all devices and make sure that the
devices have the accounts for only those required - ie make sure the
Mail account on your wife's devices don't have a mail account with
your credentials.
Have you got any rules set in your Mail account to auto forward to
your Wife's email address?
Are you receiving emails intended for your wife?
Please answer these and we can go the next step to resolving this
Peter.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Cc:
Sent:Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:29:59 +0800
Subject:Re: emails

 Hi Peter.I have had this issue for some time.I think it is because we
use the same Apple ID.But I don’t want to change that because it
syncs Contacts & Calendar beautifully.
But mine was with Message.So finally I found this on my
iPhone:-Settings/Message/Send & Receive = here you can select or
deselect mobile number or email.
Not sure if this will help your email issue.But if not, Mail may have
something similar in Settings.

On 25 Nov 2020, at 11:56 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi everyone
My wife receives many of my emails on her computer and ipad. As far as
I know I have not organised this and cannot seem to find out how to
stop this happening.
Can someone give me some information to be able to stop this?
Kind regards
Peter
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Alternative to Time Capsule

[Peter Crisp]

H there, my Brother in law has two iMacs each of which we’re backing to his old 
style flat Time Capsule which is now dead - tried all of the reset methods 
numerous times. It’s cactus. Some options he has are to buy a used tower style 
TC or go to using his iiNet NBN modem Wifi and attach a backup NAS drive to it 
and set Time Machine to push backups to the NAS. 

Does anyone have experience with either and if the NAS route is all ok, is 
there a recommended brand of NAS?

Does Migration Assistant work ok in pulling back to set up a new iMac from a 
backup on a NAS? Are there any downsides to a NAS solution.

The TC is such a good device it is a shame that Apple no longer produce them. 
There may be some new-old stock laying around or a cleared known used one would 
be ok I suppose.

Regards


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Re: very puzzled.

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Daniel and Rosemary, I have a free web app Disk Inventory X - it is very 
good at showing you where everything is. It is amazing the clutter that can 
build up - and this application presents in a nice user friendly way to drill 
down the levels to see what junk is cluttering up your drive. When you get it 
and run it - you must give it a bit of time to scan the selected drive before 
you’re presented with the representation of all the stuff you have.

At the same time a lot of caution should be taken in not indiscriminately 
deleting stuff you need to keep - especially system related. 

Pete.

> On 29 Oct 2020, at 9:15 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rosemary
> 
> That “storage” part can sometimes get a little lost, so it just dumps things 
> into one spot.
> Best way is to have all the folders in List View and turn on “Calculate All 
> Sizes” (from View menu - Show View Options.
> Then let it calculate folders. You can then narrow down where a lot of space 
> may be used.
> (Some can be in hidden folders as well, especially if you have back ups of 
> iPhones/iPads etc. (and old models, as it saves them all).
> Also, if you have iPhoto Library and Photos Library  (in Pictures) then this 
> can take up more room than needed.
> 
> That’s a fairly “quick” way to get a rough idea of where it may be. Then can 
> work through it.
> (Sometimes not always an easy thing to narrow down straight away).
> 
> Another Application that can help with it sometimes is WhatSize - 
> https://www.whatsizemac.com
> (But you have buy it to get all the feature set, so sometimes the free trial 
> only gives you a rough idea of space).
> 
> Hope something there helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel 
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>> On 29 Oct 2020, at 9:07 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> I keep receiving a message saying my disc is almost full.  When I go to the 
>> storage section it says only 859mb out of 121 gb is free. 103.77GB is 
>> allocated to system files. This seems excessive. The library folder has 86gb 
>> alone. I have deleted a couple of large backup files but not sure what else 
>> to do. 
>> I'm keeping this running Mojave because I'm running Family Tree Builder 32 
>> bit (until the 64 bit one comes out) and Dreamweaver CS6 as for the amount 
>> of use I now get out of it it's not worth asubscription.
>> 
>> MacBook Air (13-inch, 2017)
>> MacOS Mojave 10.14.6
>> 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
>> 
>> Regards,
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Re: TC Backups to a full disc drive

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Neil and Adam, yes that is interesting about the NAS RAID and I would prefer 
a single BIG NAS unit connected to the TC to hold all backups (beyond the 
capacity of the built in HDD backup drive). I am not worried that the backup 
speed is slow from the USB (and yes it is slow) but it is a background process 
and doesn’t for me hinder anything I am doing on the MBP at any time. It is 
only a little bother when you’re doing a Restore using Migration Assistant that 
the speed is a bother - from my side at least.

Regards

Pete.

> On 9 Oct 2020, at 2:15 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Adam, Hi Peter.
> 
> Some experiences:
> 
> On my main computer I use directly connected disks for TM backups and 
> Superduper clones - USB & FW respectively but since almost all my important 
> stuff is also in the cloud, on either Dropbox or OneDrive, I have TM set to 
> manual and just connect the drives when I need to do a backup - my thinking 
> being to avoid a power surge/lightning strike taking  out both the computer 
> AND connected backups!
> 
> However, I do use a NAS for TM backups of a second computer and a laptop. At 
> the moment these do not get a lot of use and, again, I do the YM backups 
> manually - but the TM network backup all seems to work OK.
> 
> From memory, the trickiest bit was me deciding how to setup the NAS - to RAID 
> or not to RAID, setting up user permissions so different users had their own 
> space on the NAS, setting up a media server (as yet unused!) and then setting 
> up another space for the TM backups. However, I am known to complicate things 
> and I did want the NAS to fulfil several purposes!
> 
> I would imagine that if you just wanted to use the NAS for TM purposes, and 
> used a simple RAID setup, you could have a good TM solution with protection 
> against a single HD failure in the NAS - still doesn't help if lightning 
> takes out the whole box!
> 
> Just my musings - HTH
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  on behalf of Adam 
> Lippiatt 
> Reply-To: WAMUG 
> Date: Friday, 09 October 2020 at 13:01
> To: WAMUG 
> Subject: Re: TC Backups to a full disc drive
> 
>Hi Peter
> 
>Presently I run two drives connected to my iMac (one by Thunderbolt, one 
> by USB) one backing up a time machine backup and one using Carbon Copy Cloner 
> software to make another backup.  I swap out one of the drives from time to 
> time and keep that drive at a separate location. 
> 
>I have only had one hard drive fail and that was the “fusion” drive in 
> this iMac. It was very very handy to have a backup to hand when the iMacs 
> drive was replaced. 
> 
>However, I would like to go wireless for backup,  my only attempt being 
> just to add a usb connected drive to a Time Capsule (for a second backup to 
> the Time Capsule itself), but I found it to be too slow. 
> 
>One idea for a monthly meeting topic I would be interested in, is a home 
> network guru providing a guide to running wireless backups to  multiple 
> backup drives and whether that requires / is better with a NAS (which I don’t 
> really understand) or via hard drives connected to a wireless router with a 
> fast USB connection. 
> 
>Adam
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:26 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Adam, thanks for that. What do you do instead for your backups?
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:07 pm, Adam Lippiatt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter
>>> 
>>> That is good news. 
>>> 
>>> On a side note I gave up using hard drives connected via usb to the TC 
>>> because they were very slow to transfer data. I read somewhere that this is 
>>> because the USB port on the TC is slow speed. 
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:02 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just thought I would add my recent awareness of this. In the 10 years + 
>>>> of using the Apple Time Capsule (with 3 USB hub connected external drives) 
>>>> I hadn’t yet reached the point where any of the Macbook backups had 
>>>> reached a full state on their respective drives. My own MBP back up drive 
>>>> on the TC (a 2TB HDD) reached this state during this week and I waited 
>>>> anxiously for it to either have a hissy fit or proceed as anticipated and 
>>>> free up space by deleting oldest backup content. 
>>>> 
>>>> I am pleased to say the latter resulted - with a message popup which said 
>>>> it will delete oldest content to make way for new backup content.
>>>> 

Re: TC Backups to a full disc drive

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Adam, thanks for that. What do you do instead for your backups?

Pete.

> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:07 pm, Adam Lippiatt  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter
> 
> That is good news. 
> 
> On a side note I gave up using hard drives connected via usb to the TC 
> because they were very slow to transfer data. I read somewhere that this is 
> because the USB port on the TC is slow speed. 
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 12:02 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> I just thought I would add my recent awareness of this. In the 10 years + 
>> of using the Apple Time Capsule (with 3 USB hub connected external drives) I 
>> hadn’t yet reached the point where any of the Macbook backups had reached a 
>> full state on their respective drives. My own MBP back up drive on the TC (a 
>> 2TB HDD) reached this state during this week and I waited anxiously for it 
>> to either have a hissy fit or proceed as anticipated and free up space by 
>> deleting oldest backup content. 
>> 
>> I am pleased to say the latter resulted - with a message popup which said it 
>> will delete oldest content to make way for new backup content.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
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TC Backups to a full disc drive

[Peter Crisp]

I just thought I would add my recent awareness of this. In the 10 years + of 
using the Apple Time Capsule (with 3 USB hub connected external drives) I 
hadn’t yet reached the point where any of the Macbook backups had reached a 
full state on their respective drives. My own MBP back up drive on the TC (a 
2TB HDD) reached this state during this week and I waited anxiously for it to 
either have a hissy fit or proceed as anticipated and free up space by deleting 
oldest backup content. 

I am pleased to say the latter resulted - with a message popup which said it 
will delete oldest content to make way for new backup content.

Regards

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Re: Time Capsule WiFi security setting

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, I have resolved the issue with my connection to my home WiFi network. 
The solution laid in the Family Zone box which (was) sitting between my NBN 
modem and my Time Capsule as a traffic filter. It has provided a good service 
but something shifted a couple of weeks ago - I don’t know what it was but all 
of a sudden I was having all sorts of issues connecting to it, yesterday my Mac 
book would not connect to it at all (I was having to use my NBN Modem WiFi 
network for internet access). I could see the TC WiFi network but errors each 
time I tried. Others in the house were not having this problem. My iPhone also 
same thing - could see it but not connect. I think a silently deployed firmware 
update from FZ may have resulted in this shift. Anyway, I decided to remove the 
FZ box as a way of eliminating its effects to tell me if that was the cause. I 
spent half an hour on the phone to FZ yesterday and didn’t get it solved there. 
Problem is now gone (box removed), Kid’s devices which have the device 
installed FZ app on are still in control (as it reaches to wherever the device 
is on the internet) so the FZ box at home doesn’t provide any greater control 
(only fixed devices like Apple TV, Playstation are the added controls that I 
now don’t have). I am seeing Tx rates >300 mbps as well so lightning fast. 

I’m happy with this outcome.

Pete.

> On 4 Oct 2020, at 11:38 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> My computers, iPad & iPhone all connect to my WiFi Snowblow 5GHz Network
> No devices are using the 2.4GHz Network 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2020, at 11:20 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for that Ronni. So I conclude the problem is something my side and 
>> not a broader issue. I have a 5GHz network only selected - I was unaware 
>> that the TC could issue both frequency networks concurrently. Will look into 
>> how I can do that.
>> 
>> Well done the Pies too! I hope for your sake they can progress further. 
>> Their form last night was good, but Port (and Brisbane) were very strong 
>> looking in their final.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 4 Oct 2020, at 11:08 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> My NBN WiFi Network settings in Airport Utility are:
>>> Security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
>>> 5GHz channel 149
>>> 2.4GHz channel 11
>>> 
>>> 5GHz Name: Snowblow3 5GHz 
>>> 
>>> I have no trouble connecting via Wi-Fi from computers or iOS devices with 
>>> these settings.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 4 Oct 2020, at 10:24 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI folks, a bump to see if anyone else can shed any light on this one. 
>>>> I’ve done some further reading on this and the Enterprise setting may be 
>>>> better from the reading I’ve done. The reading on the Apple discussion 
>>>> forum indicates that Apple hasn’t deployed WPA3 firmware updates for TC’s 
>>>> yet and not even sure if they will. I am up to date with the latest 
>>>> firmware available for my 3rd Gen TC. 
>>>> 
>>>> I am puzzled that I am seemingly the only one in this community with this 
>>>> issue as I read all threads coming in and no one else has indicated an 
>>>> issue. This makes me think the issue is unique to me and my network config 
>>>> is something to be tweaked a bit (Radio button and other settings perhaps).
>>>> 
>>>> What I did note is the WPA3 security recommendation arises due to iOS13 
>>>> and this issue in my house arose (for all of us in the house) the very day 
>>>> (and I can’t help thinking connected) to the fact I was given an iPhone 8 
>>>> from my niece and I restored my backup from my iPhone iPhone 6 (iOS 
>>>> 12.x.x) and in so doing I moved into iOS 13.x.x  where this WPA3 WiFi 
>>>> security recommendation arose. But my sons both have iPhone 11’s (how does 
>>>> that work!!)already on iOS 13.x.x and now iOS 14.x.x.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Oct 2020, at 2:59 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a Time Capsule in my house and a 25m ethernet cable to an Airport 
>>>>> Express down in my sons room configured as an extender (Ethernet up the 
>>>>> wall cavity, down the house then ba

Re: Time Capsule WiFi security setting

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for that Ronni. So I conclude the problem is something my side and not a 
broader issue. I have a 5GHz network only selected - I was unaware that the TC 
could issue both frequency networks concurrently. Will look into how I can do 
that.

Well done the Pies too! I hope for your sake they can progress further. Their 
form last night was good, but Port (and Brisbane) were very strong looking in 
their final.

Kind Regards

Pete

> On 4 Oct 2020, at 11:08 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> My NBN WiFi Network settings in Airport Utility are:
> Security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
> 5GHz channel 149
> 2.4GHz channel 11
> 
> 5GHz Name: Snowblow3 5GHz 
> 
> I have no trouble connecting via Wi-Fi from computers or iOS devices with 
> these settings.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2020, at 10:24 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> HI folks, a bump to see if anyone else can shed any light on this one. I’ve 
>> done some further reading on this and the Enterprise setting may be better 
>> from the reading I’ve done. The reading on the Apple discussion forum 
>> indicates that Apple hasn’t deployed WPA3 firmware updates for TC’s yet and 
>> not even sure if they will. I am up to date with the latest firmware 
>> available for my 3rd Gen TC. 
>> 
>> I am puzzled that I am seemingly the only one in this community with this 
>> issue as I read all threads coming in and no one else has indicated an 
>> issue. This makes me think the issue is unique to me and my network config 
>> is something to be tweaked a bit (Radio button and other settings perhaps).
>> 
>> What I did note is the WPA3 security recommendation arises due to iOS13 and 
>> this issue in my house arose (for all of us in the house) the very day (and 
>> I can’t help thinking connected) to the fact I was given an iPhone 8 from my 
>> niece and I restored my backup from my iPhone iPhone 6 (iOS 12.x.x) and in 
>> so doing I moved into iOS 13.x.x  where this WPA3 WiFi security 
>> recommendation arose. But my sons both have iPhone 11’s (how does that 
>> work!!)already on iOS 13.x.x and now iOS 14.x.x.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2020, at 2:59 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a Time Capsule in my house and a 25m ethernet cable to an Airport 
>>> Express down in my sons room configured as an extender (Ethernet up the 
>>> wall cavity, down the house then back down cavity in his room). Just 
>>> recently I have been having issues with some devices in the house 
>>> connecting to the WiFI network from the TC. This morning I tried on my 
>>> iPhone 8 again and whilst it connected a small message underneath said 
>>> “Weak security - WPA/WPA2 (TKIP) is not considered secure. If this is your 
>>> WiFI network, configure the router to use WPA2 (AES) or WPA3 security 
>>> type”. 
>>> 
>>> I checked in Airport Utility and I only have WPA2 (Personal or Enterprise, 
>>> I’m set on Personal) as an available security setting - not sure what the 
>>> (AES) bit means but do not have WPA3 either - so I can’t actually make a 
>>> change to this setting. As a result of this I have set up the WiFi network 
>>> for the NBN Modem for an alternate WiFi network in the house for when 
>>> difficulties arise. No problems with that one. The problem seems to be with 
>>> iOS devices not OSX devices - so the TM backups are ok as they need to be 
>>> connected to the TC and not the NBN Modem. 
>>> 
>>> Anyone else have these issues and any tips on what I can do to resolve this 
>>> one?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete.
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Re: Time Capsule WiFi security setting

[Peter Crisp]

HI folks, a bump to see if anyone else can shed any light on this one. I’ve 
done some further reading on this and the Enterprise setting may be better from 
the reading I’ve done. The reading on the Apple discussion forum indicates that 
Apple hasn’t deployed WPA3 firmware updates for TC’s yet and not even sure if 
they will. I am up to date with the latest firmware available for my 3rd Gen 
TC. 

I am puzzled that I am seemingly the only one in this community with this issue 
as I read all threads coming in and no one else has indicated an issue. This 
makes me think the issue is unique to me and my network config is something to 
be tweaked a bit (Radio button and other settings perhaps).

What I did note is the WPA3 security recommendation arises due to iOS13 and 
this issue in my house arose (for all of us in the house) the very day (and I 
can’t help thinking connected) to the fact I was given an iPhone 8 from my 
niece and I restored my backup from my iPhone iPhone 6 (iOS 12.x.x) and in so 
doing I moved into iOS 13.x.x  where this WPA3 WiFi security recommendation 
arose. But my sons both have iPhone 11’s (how does that work!!)already on iOS 
13.x.x and now iOS 14.x.x.

Regards


Pete

> On 3 Oct 2020, at 2:59 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> I have a Time Capsule in my house and a 25m ethernet cable to an Airport 
> Express down in my sons room configured as an extender (Ethernet up the wall 
> cavity, down the house then back down cavity in his room). Just recently I 
> have been having issues with some devices in the house connecting to the WiFI 
> network from the TC. This morning I tried on my iPhone 8 again and whilst it 
> connected a small message underneath said “Weak security - WPA/WPA2 (TKIP) is 
> not considered secure. If this is your WiFI network, configure the router to 
> use WPA2 (AES) or WPA3 security type”. 
> 
> I checked in Airport Utility and I only have WPA2 (Personal or Enterprise, 
> I’m set on Personal) as an available security setting - not sure what the 
> (AES) bit means but do not have WPA3 either - so I can’t actually make a 
> change to this setting. As a result of this I have set up the WiFi network 
> for the NBN Modem for an alternate WiFi network in the house for when 
> difficulties arise. No problems with that one. The problem seems to be with 
> iOS devices not OSX devices - so the TM backups are ok as they need to be 
> connected to the TC and not the NBN Modem. 
> 
> Anyone else have these issues and any tips on what I can do to resolve this 
> one?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete.
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Time Capsule WiFi security setting

[Peter Crisp]

I have a Time Capsule in my house and a 25m ethernet cable to an Airport 
Express down in my sons room configured as an extender (Ethernet up the wall 
cavity, down the house then back down cavity in his room). Just recently I have 
been having issues with some devices in the house connecting to the WiFI 
network from the TC. This morning I tried on my iPhone 8 again and whilst it 
connected a small message underneath said “Weak security - WPA/WPA2 (TKIP) is 
not considered secure. If this is your WiFI network, configure the router to 
use WPA2 (AES) or WPA3 security type”. 

I checked in Airport Utility and I only have WPA2 (Personal or Enterprise, I’m 
set on Personal) as an available security setting - not sure what the (AES) bit 
means but do not have WPA3 either - so I can’t actually make a change to this 
setting. As a result of this I have set up the WiFi network for the NBN Modem 
for an alternate WiFi network in the house for when difficulties arise. No 
problems with that one. The problem seems to be with iOS devices not OSX 
devices - so the TM backups are ok as they need to be connected to the TC and 
not the NBN Modem. 

Anyone else have these issues and any tips on what I can do to resolve this one?

Regards

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Re: OBD2 Scanner

[Peter Crisp]

HI Walter, apologies to others this is a bit off course of a mac topic but for 
Walter’s request please see below.

I have successfully set up the ELM327 and using the iPhone 8 took these images 
(at the Google Drive link here). So this one works fine with a Wifi connection. 
Note the app I used “car scanner” is one of a number that works for ELM327 
units. Establish a Wifi connection to the unit and then follow your nose. Note 
the free instance I have I can only select 2 engine parameters to log. Probably 
enough given your earlier emails.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uXsMo_20AXZKs0UAD0T18Ih3qblssLM9

Let me know if any issues with accessing this. I am happy to go off-line and 
help you with this Walter. It is my hobby so if you want help just ask.

Regards


Pete

> On 29 Sep 2020, at 2:13 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Peter,
> 
> Super info, have looked at the unit on Ebay [AUS supplier].
> 
> Would be happy to get your road test info.
> 
> Cheers
> Walter
> 
> ***
> 
>> On 29 Sep 2020, at 12:18 , Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Walter, see the phrase in bold below for an ELM327 suitable for iPhone - 
>> there are many but note one of them uses WiFI for connectivity, the other 
>> (little blue one) uses Bluetooth for connectivity. Do a search on eBay using 
>> that phrase making sure you include iPhone in the search.
>> 
>> My son has a Hyundai and I will give it a shot this afternoon to see how it 
>> goes with my iPhone and let you know. 
>> 
>> Ebay search with this phrase: ELM327 OBDII OBD2 WiFi Car Engine Diagnostic 
>> Code Reader Scan iPhone Android IOS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Sep 2020, at 11:10 am, FW  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Peter,
>>> 
>>> We have 2 late models Hyundai cars.
>>> Someone recommended ELM 327, but it’s only for Android devices.
>>> 
>>> I’ll keep looking ,
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Walter
>>> 
>>> ***
>>>> On 29 Sep 2020, at 09:02 , Peter Crisp  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Walter, yes I have used many of them previously. I currently have 3 
>>>> Volkswagens and they work well, but you must choose carefully for your 
>>>> car. For VW’s, I use the “OBDeleven” (Google it) device paired with iPhone 
>>>> or iPad. The OBDeleven OBD2 scanner is designed specifically for all VAG 
>>>> cars (Volkswagen Automotive Group - VW, Audi, Skoda, Bentley, Lamborghini, 
>>>> Seat branded cars all work with this one). I also have some cheap eBay 
>>>> generic (<$20) which will work on just about anything with an OBD port I 
>>>> believe. 
>>>> 
>>>> What car do you have?
>>>> 
>>>> They are useful to track live data - I watch exhaust gas temperatures 
>>>> while towing my caravan but ALL engine parameters can be tracked live. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Pete.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Sep 2020, at 7:04 am, FW  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good morning,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone tried/used an OBD2 car scanner with the iPhone/iPad ?
>>>>> One that displays fault codes and engine live data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Walter
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Re: OBD2 Scanner

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Walter, see the phrase in bold below for an ELM327 suitable for iPhone - 
there are many but note one of them uses WiFI for connectivity, the other 
(little blue one) uses Bluetooth for connectivity. Do a search on eBay using 
that phrase making sure you include iPhone in the search.

My son has a Hyundai and I will give it a shot this afternoon to see how it 
goes with my iPhone and let you know. 

Ebay search with this phrase: ELM327 OBDII OBD2 WiFi Car Engine Diagnostic Code 
Reader Scan iPhone Android IOS



> On 29 Sep 2020, at 11:10 am, FW  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Peter,
> 
> We have 2 late models Hyundai cars.
> Someone recommended ELM 327, but it’s only for Android devices.
> 
> I’ll keep looking ,
> 
> Cheers
> Walter
> 
> ***
>> On 29 Sep 2020, at 09:02 , Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Walter, yes I have used many of them previously. I currently have 3 
>> Volkswagens and they work well, but you must choose carefully for your car. 
>> For VW’s, I use the “OBDeleven” (Google it) device paired with iPhone or 
>> iPad. The OBDeleven OBD2 scanner is designed specifically for all VAG cars 
>> (Volkswagen Automotive Group - VW, Audi, Skoda, Bentley, Lamborghini, Seat 
>> branded cars all work with this one). I also have some cheap eBay generic 
>> (<$20) which will work on just about anything with an OBD port I believe. 
>> 
>> What car do you have?
>> 
>> They are useful to track live data - I watch exhaust gas temperatures while 
>> towing my caravan but ALL engine parameters can be tracked live. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>>> On 29 Sep 2020, at 7:04 am, FW  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried/used an OBD2 car scanner with the iPhone/iPad ?
>>> One that displays fault codes and engine live data.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Walter
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Re: OBD2 Scanner

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Walter, yes I have used many of them previously. I currently have 3 
Volkswagens and they work well, but you must choose carefully for your car. For 
VW’s, I use the “OBDeleven” (Google it) device paired with iPhone or iPad. The 
OBDeleven OBD2 scanner is designed specifically for all VAG cars (Volkswagen 
Automotive Group - VW, Audi, Skoda, Bentley, Lamborghini, Seat branded cars all 
work with this one). I also have some cheap eBay generic (<$20) which will work 
on just about anything with an OBD port I believe. 

What car do you have?

They are useful to track live data - I watch exhaust gas temperatures while 
towing my caravan but ALL engine parameters can be tracked live. 

Regards

Pete.

> On 29 Sep 2020, at 7:04 am, FW  wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Has anyone tried/used an OBD2 car scanner with the iPhone/iPad ?
> One that displays fault codes and engine live data.
> 
> Thanks
> Walter
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Re: Migration from 2011 MBP to 2016 MBP

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Neil, thanks for your and Peter’s response to this query. In the mean time I 
have brought Jame’s TM backup up to date - last one was Feb ’20. It took an 
eternity - even on ethernet connection (around 43GB)! Whilst I understand the 
method you explain Neil (and that way using a clone might be more elegant and 
quicker), I think I will use the Migration assistant and restore from the TM 
backup. I also don’t yet have the spare hardware to use the clone method so for 
the moment that dictates the line of least resistance (and cost) for me and 
young James. 

Thanks

Pete.

> On 21 Sep 2020, at 2:53 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter(s),
> 
> Each to their own of course but, personally, I prefer to keep TM for use on a 
> file/folder basis to find old versions, restore a file I stuff-up (or lose) 
> etc and prefer to use clones to deal at the disk level.
> 
> In your case, I would probably clone the 2016 MBP to an external drive (so 
> cheap now if you don't have a spare lying around) and then connect that drive 
> to the new machine (using the USB-c to USB-A cable).
> 
> Then just use migration assistant as if it was the old computer you were 
> connected to.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/09/20, 07:59, "Peter Hinchliffe" 
>  hinch...@multiline.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Sep 2020, at 1:59 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there, my son has got himself a 2016 MBP which has USB-C ports only. He 
>> only has his USB-C charging lead for the new MBP (but he does have a USB-C 
>> to HDMI and USB-C to USB2 plug ended cables) but I have no other means to 
>> communicate directly between the two which has a plug end to get into the 
>> USB-C connector. Will migration assistant work via the USB2 port on the old 
>> MBP to the USB-C port on the new MBP?
>> 
>> My alternative is to restore from a TM back up which has always been 
>> successful but slowish. Can anyone recommend anything else to do this?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
> 
>Last week, JB-HI were advertising a range of USB-C mutilport dongles, 
> which are pretty much essential for a computer with nothing but USB-C ports. 
> They’re not the cheapest thing in the world but are a worthwhile investment 
> until the rest of the world catches up with USB-C devices.
> 
>In the meantime, I’d say that the TM restore might be your best option. 
> You could also consider restoring across an Airport wireless network 
> connection, but you need to be able to guarantee constancy of connection, so 
> I’d  always leave that as a last resort.
> 
> 
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> 
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Migration from 2011 MBP to 2016 MBP

[Peter Crisp]

Hi there, my son has got himself a 2016 MBP which has USB-C ports only. He only 
has his USB-C charging lead for the new MBP (but he does have a USB-C to HDMI 
and USB-C to USB2 plug ended cables) but I have no other means to communicate 
directly between the two which has a plug end to get into the USB-C connector. 
Will migration assistant work via the USB2 port on the old MBP to the USB-C 
port on the new MBP?

 My alternative is to restore from a TM back up which has always been 
successful but slowish. Can anyone recommend anything else to do this?

Regards

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Re: iTunes

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Stephen, I’ve been a bit busy but this morning I had a look at the Software 
Depot site and I saw the Office 2019 Home and Business for Mac was on sale for 
$227. On other site I saw better priced (~$100) so I think that is an option 
but I will pursue further for a multi user licence for others in the house too.

My Dad had used City Software as a provide he used for many years, plus others 
too. Will check around for best option.

Regards


Pete

> On 20 Aug 2020, at 6:01 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hello Peter.
> In May I bought from SoftwareDepot.co Office 2019 Home & Business for Mac.
> It was online and cost $124.99
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 5:24 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for this Ronni. I have yet to make the move to Catalina (2013 MBP 
>> Retina). There is only one reason I am holding off for now and that is 
>> because I have an MS Office licence installation (2011 - I know it’s a bit 
>> ancient) but it is 32 bit and will be defunct when I shift to Catalina. I 
>> prefer the owned software approach to the web licensing with annual renewal 
>> fees for what is a VERY infrequently used software but no driving force to 
>> make a shift to Office 2016 or later.
>> 
>> But, notwithstanding the above, I have my Music library on an external drive 
>> (along with my Photos library) and I wondered if this fact will be handled 
>> seamlessly with upgrade to Catalina and subsequent opening of Apple Music 
>> app and Finder etc?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:51 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> As Stephen has mentioned...
>>> With macOS Catalina, your iTunes media library is now available in the 
>>> Apple Music app, Apple TV app, Apple Books app, and Apple Podcasts app. And 
>>> Finder is where you can manage and sync content on your iPhone, iPad, and 
>>> iPod touch.
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:38 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Peter.
>>>> 
>>>> I am pretty sure iTunes was replaced with Apple Music and Apple TV.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:27 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>> I removed iTunes from my computer some time ago, but find that perhaps I 
>>>>> was too hasty. Can I download iTunes from Apple? if so from where?
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Peter
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Re: iTunes

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Rosemary, I haven’t dabbled in Audiobooks yet - but may well some time. That 
is odd that the data cannot be stored on an external drive. Thanks for letting 
me know though.

Regards

Pete.

> On 21 Aug 2020, at 4:30 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> Your audiobooks if you allow the expected behaviour ie to move to Books does 
> not allow external drive connection.
> 
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> 
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 17:25, Peter Crisp  <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> Thanks for this Ronni. I have yet to make the move to Catalina (2013 MBP 
> Retina). There is only one reason I am holding off for now and that is 
> because I have an MS Office licence installation (2011 - I know it’s a bit 
> ancient) but it is 32 bit and will be defunct when I shift to Catalina. I 
> prefer the owned software approach to the web licensing with annual renewal 
> fees for what is a VERY infrequently used software but no driving force to 
> make a shift to Office 2016 or later.
> 
> But, notwithstanding the above, I have my Music library on an external drive 
> (along with my Photos library) and I wondered if this fact will be handled 
> seamlessly with upgrade to Catalina and subsequent opening of Apple Music app 
> and Finder etc?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete.
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:51 am, Ronni Brown > <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> As Stephen has mentioned...
>> With macOS Catalina, your iTunes media library is now available in the Apple 
>> Music app, Apple TV app, Apple Books app, and Apple Podcasts app. And Finder 
>> is where you can manage and sync content on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
>> touch.
>> 
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200>
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:38 am, Stephen Chape >> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter.
>>> 
>>> I am pretty sure iTunes was replaced with Apple Music and Apple TV.
>>> 
>>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:27 am, Peter Curtis >>> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>> I removed iTunes from my computer some time ago, but find that perhaps I 
>>>> was too hasty. Can I download iTunes from Apple? if so from where?
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Peter
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Re: iTunes

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Stephen, this might just be the impetus I need to push me over the wall. 
Will check them out and see if they do a multiple licence edition. 

Regards

Pete.

> On 20 Aug 2020, at 6:01 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hello Peter.
> In May I bought from SoftwareDepot.co <http://softwaredepot.co/> Office 2019 
> Home & Business for Mac.
> It was online and cost $124.99
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 5:24 pm, Peter Crisp > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for this Ronni. I have yet to make the move to Catalina (2013 MBP 
>> Retina). There is only one reason I am holding off for now and that is 
>> because I have an MS Office licence installation (2011 - I know it’s a bit 
>> ancient) but it is 32 bit and will be defunct when I shift to Catalina. I 
>> prefer the owned software approach to the web licensing with annual renewal 
>> fees for what is a VERY infrequently used software but no driving force to 
>> make a shift to Office 2016 or later.
>> 
>> But, notwithstanding the above, I have my Music library on an external drive 
>> (along with my Photos library) and I wondered if this fact will be handled 
>> seamlessly with upgrade to Catalina and subsequent opening of Apple Music 
>> app and Finder etc?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:51 am, Ronni Brown >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> As Stephen has mentioned...
>>> With macOS Catalina, your iTunes media library is now available in the 
>>> Apple Music app, Apple TV app, Apple Books app, and Apple Podcasts app. And 
>>> Finder is where you can manage and sync content on your iPhone, iPad, and 
>>> iPod touch.
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200 
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200>
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:38 am, Stephen Chape >>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Peter.
>>>> 
>>>> I am pretty sure iTunes was replaced with Apple Music and Apple TV.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:27 am, Peter Curtis >>>> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>> I removed iTunes from my computer some time ago, but find that perhaps I 
>>>>> was too hasty. Can I download iTunes from Apple? if so from where?
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Peter
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: iTunes

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for this Ronni. I have yet to make the move to Catalina (2013 MBP 
Retina). There is only one reason I am holding off for now and that is because 
I have an MS Office licence installation (2011 - I know it’s a bit ancient) but 
it is 32 bit and will be defunct when I shift to Catalina. I prefer the owned 
software approach to the web licensing with annual renewal fees for what is a 
VERY infrequently used software but no driving force to make a shift to Office 
2016 or later.

But, notwithstanding the above, I have my Music library on an external drive 
(along with my Photos library) and I wondered if this fact will be handled 
seamlessly with upgrade to Catalina and subsequent opening of Apple Music app 
and Finder etc?

Regards

Pete.

> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:51 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> As Stephen has mentioned...
> With macOS Catalina, your iTunes media library is now available in the Apple 
> Music app, Apple TV app, Apple Books app, and Apple Podcasts app. And Finder 
> is where you can manage and sync content on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210200 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:38 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter.
>> 
>> I am pretty sure iTunes was replaced with Apple Music and Apple TV.
>> 
>>> On 20 Aug 2020, at 10:27 am, Peter Curtis >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> I removed iTunes from my computer some time ago, but find that perhaps I 
>>> was too hasty. Can I download iTunes from Apple? if so from where?
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
>>> 
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, for sure Stephen, this is dead easy, on any device select the music you 
want then it syncs across all your other devices if you have iCloud selected on 
each device. 

Just for info too, I DID get billed the $2.19 so I figure that Apple thinks I 
have greater flexibility for that song being ‘bought’ than all the other 
content gained by subscribing and not specifically buying. I’ve yet to fully 
test the playing of that song on a USB say plugged into my Windows laptop. But 
I actually have no need to further exploit. I am fully covered with my 
subscription and locally downloaded music to my phone when travelling without a 
4G service. 

I hope others can set themselves up to suit their best needs. Subscription 
isn’t cheap but I am ok with it given the vast range of choice I (and my 
family) have with no ceiling on what or how much I can listen to. 

Regards


Pete

> On 30 Jun 2020, at 6:04 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Peter.
> It seems that for me the simplest way to get songs is by downloading to my 
> iPhone.
> Then it automatically syncs to Music on my iMac.
> 
> Thank you for your advice !!
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 4:46 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marcus, it would be interesting to hear the outcome of your experiment. 
>> Can you indicate if you are an Apple Music Subscriber or not? This will make 
>> a difference. 
>> 
>> I thought what the heck I would do an experiment too. I went to Music>Store 
>> and pressed Buy on the song "Love is a Rose" in that Album. iTunes duly 
>> asked for my password (to enable billing for my $2.19 purchase) and it duly 
>> downloaded into my external drive where my iTunes library is held - but NOT 
>> in the APPLE MUSIC subfolder of my library but rather an auto created new 
>> folder in my Music parent folder called Volume Pete>Music>Neil 
>> Young>Homegrown>Mexico. I can see the m4a file when doing the "Show in 
>> Finder" option. This file plays in Quicktime Player - no issues - albeit on 
>> my MBP. 
>> 
>> I also went to the album in iTunes>Library (not Store) and did a search in 
>> "All Apple Music" now and selected "Home Grown" and then selected the Neil 
>> Young album. I selected the song Mexico and this downloaded too, BUT it was 
>> placed in the "Apple Music" subfolder beneath my Music top level folder and 
>> the file is called "03 Mexico.m4p". I think the "p" in the filename might 
>> infer protected. 
>> 
>> But the Mexico track will NOT play in Quicktime player (Using Quicktime 
>> Player is a test as it does not utilise my Apple ID credentials to confirm 
>> playability for protected files. It didn't play. 
>> 
>> So, as I am a subscriber I am able to play the whole album without buying 
>> anything so long as it is on one of my Apple devices. This covers all my 
>> possibilities. I either download a song, Album, playlist or any Music 
>> content to my device (if I am out of 4G range, it plays fine). 
>> 
>> I checked in my Purchase History too following this and there is a Pending 
>> transaction for $2.19 dated today for the song Love is a Rose. If Apple's 
>> checking system is in order, it should not charge me - as I pay already via 
>> subscription. But if I get billed the $2.19, I will know for future. It will 
>> be useful to know.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter Crisp
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
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>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>> Cc:
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>> Sent:
>> Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:53:06 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: Music
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pete,
>> This made me very curious.
>> So I went to iTunes and selected Music >“Store”
>> There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home Grown “ album for $19.99.
>> Or one can also buy individual tunes for $2.99.
>> Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra benefit than 
>> streaming from Apple Music.
>> I am going to try and stick some of my bought music onto a thumb drive 
>> tomorrow and see if it plays on another non Apple device.
>> Cheers  
>> Marcus
>> 
>> On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
>> 
>> Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually only 
>> bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a CD of it or 
>> copy off to any other storage means. 
>> 
>> I'm sure it's in the fine print.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 28 Jun 2020, 

Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Marcus, it would be interesting to hear the outcome of your
experiment. Can you indicate if you are an Apple Music Subscriber or
not? This will make a difference. 
I thought what the heck I would do an experiment too. I went to
Music>Store and pressed Buy on the song "Love is a Rose" in that
Album. iTunes duly asked for my password (to enable billing for my
$2.19 purchase) and it duly downloaded into my external drive where my
iTunes library is held - but NOT in the APPLE MUSIC subfolder of my
library but rather an auto created new folder in my _Music _parent
folder called Volume Pete>Music>Neil Young>Homegrown>Mexico. I can see
the m4a file when doing the "Show in Finder" option. This file plays
in Quicktime Player - no issues - albeit on my MBP. 
I also went to the album in iTunes>Library (not Store) and did a
search in "All Apple Music" now and selected "Home Grown" and then
selected the Neil Young album. I selected the song Mexico and this
downloaded too, BUT it was placed in the "Apple Music" subfolder
beneath my _Music _top level folder and the file is called "03
Mexico.m4p". I think the "p" in the filename might infer protected. 
But the Mexico track will NOT play in Quicktime player (Using
Quicktime Player is a test as it does not utilise my Apple ID
credentials to confirm playability for protected files. It didn't
play. 
So, as I am a subscriber I am able to play the whole album without
buying anything so long as it is on one of my Apple devices. This
covers all my possibilities. I either download a song, Album, playlist
or any Music content to my device (if I am out of 4G range, it plays
fine). 
I checked in my Purchase History too following this and there is a
Pending transaction for $2.19 dated today for the song Love is a Rose.
If Apple's checking system is in order, it should not charge me - as I
pay already via subscription. But if I get billed the $2.19, I will
know for future. It will be useful to know.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Music

 Hi Pete,This made me very curious.So I went to iTunes and selected
Music >“Store”There music is sold. For example, Neil Young “Home
Grown “ album for $19.99.Or one can also buy individual tunes for
$2.99.Are you convinced that buying these tunes/albums has no extra
benefit than streaming from Apple Music.I am going to try and stick
some of my bought music onto a thumb drive tomorrow and see if it
plays on another non Apple device.Cheers  Marcus

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually
only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a
CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
Kind regards
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, that is a bummer. If you're a subscriber, you've paid for access
to the entire Apple Music database - it must be enormous! There is no
need to BUY anything, in fact I thought being a subscriber, you can't
actually BUY anything in the Music store - the log in should be
recognised and not effectively double charge.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:07:43 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Having read this, I now see that what I bought from iTunes has no
extra benefit to an Apple Music Subscription.I guess I paid good money
for no extra benefit.Bummer ehMarcus

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:54 am, Pete  wrote:
Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've actually
only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You can't make a
CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Stephen, when you buy some content (Music) on your iMac, this in
turn adds it to your iTunes library. If you have the "iCloud Music
Library" button ON (green) (on the iPhone Settings>Music>iCloud Music
Library), then there is no need to connect the phone to the Mac and
synch, you can just open the Music app on the iphone and it will take
a moment and then just synch over the air (within your WiFi or 4G)
your entire library. This doesn't mean the content is downloaded onto
the iPhone, it just means your library metadata is visible for you to
then play it form the phone. It will play via streaming using Wifi or
4G unless you specifically select the Download symbol for that
song/albums that you BUY. Conversely, you can BUY it using the phone
and it then synchs back to the Mac iTunes library.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:14:04 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Certainly some things have changed in the Apple music world.
I occasionally buy a few songs from Apple Music.I do this using my
iMac.Then I plug my iPhone 6S (and also my wife’s iPhone SE) into my
iMac and Sync.
But lately, when I Sync iPhones with iMac Music, not all songs
transfer to the iPhones.There seems to be some kind of
“disconnect” between them regarding Music.
Can anyone explain this please ?

On 29 Jun 2020, at 9:29 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi
95% of my music is off cassettes, records and CD’s! I’m not
looking to avoid buying music, or giving it to others so they can
avoid buying it. It’s just the simplicity I had before with iTunes
seems to me to have been removed. I have found solutions to my current
situation, just find the constant changes to shore up their profits
annoying. When I purchased most of my music the costs were excessive
due to their protections, it looks like they are moving towards that
again in one way or another. I was just wondering if there was a
replacement more like iTunes and less like Music.
Kind regards
Peter 

On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:01 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or album,
if you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to play
that song on your apple device/s anywhere and download to your device
to play where you don't have 4G service - but still constrained to
your Apple devices. If you ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't
have to pay or press Buy on anything more for anything in the entire
Music database which Apple manages because your subscription fee
covers ALL music purchases. This does not include movies, it is just
music. 

It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you
buy the licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if
you pay to own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on
YOUR Apple devices too.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:

Cc:

Sent:
Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:21:38 +0800
Subject:
Re: Music

Hi Pete,
Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard money for
it vs renting through Apple Music?
Cheers 

Marcus 
Marcus Harris
Mobile +61417965618

On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 

I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards

Pete

On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.

I am not certain about this but ….
I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions
about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:

Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
Kind regards
Peter
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Right, agreed Peter, music that you own the content and have imported
into iTunes doesn't have the DRM applied and so I believe you should
be able to make further CD's of that owned content or export to a USB
if you choose.
I have put this to the test just now. A CD (that I bought myself) I
imported years ago in my library, I am able to copy out to a USB no
problem, I can then play it using QuickTime player (to distance from
my iTunes to which I am a Music subscriber) - it plays no problem.
Conversely, a song I exported to the same USB (grabbed from my iTunes
library and an Apply Copyrighted song) the file exported ok, but the
DRM prevents it from being played using QuickTime player, but it will
play off the USB from the iTunes app as my subscription permits this
to be played as I have the 'licence' to play it.
I too have ~300GB of owned music but I just don't need to buy anything
now as I have paid with my subscription - but it obliges me to
maintain this subscription for life (which is what Apple wants) to
continue to have this extra material available or if I cancel my
subscription, I revert to my 300GB owned library. 

Kind Regards

Pete

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Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 09:29:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Hi
 95% of my music is off cassettes, records and CD’s! I’m not
looking to avoid buying music, or giving it to others so they can
avoid buying it. It’s just the simplicity I had before with iTunes
seems to me to have been removed. I have found solutions to my current
situation, just find the constant changes to shore up their profits
annoying. When I purchased most of my music the costs were excessive
due to their protections, it looks like they are moving towards that
again in one way or another. I was just wondering if there was a
replacement more like iTunes and less like Music.
 Kind regards
 Peter 

 > On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:01 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or
album, if you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to
play that song on your apple device/s anywhere and download to your
device to play where you don't have 4G service - but still constrained
to your Apple devices. If you ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't
have to pay or press Buy on anything more for anything in the entire
Music database which Apple manages because your subscription fee
covers ALL music purchases. This does not include movies, it is just
music. 
 > 
 > It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you
buy the licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if
you pay to own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on
YOUR Apple devices too.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Kind Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Peter Crisp
 > 
 > 
 > - Original Message -
 > From:
 > wamug@wamug.org.au
 > 
 > To:
 > 
 > Cc:
 > 
 > Sent:
 > Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:21:38 +0800
 > Subject:
 > Re: Music
 > 
 > 
 > Hi Pete,
 > Is that correct if you buy music using iTunes, ie pay hard money
for it vs renting through Apple Music?
 > Cheers 
 > 
 > Marcus 
 > Marcus Harris
 > Mobile +61417965618
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:
 > 
 > Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
 > 
 > I'm sure it's in the fine print.
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > Pete
 > 
 > On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Peter.
 > 
 > I am not certain about this but ….
 > I think if you bought the music from Apple, there are restrictions
about copying it.
 > 
 > 
 > On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi all
 > Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a
bit behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to
put a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
 > Kind regards
 > Peter
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Marcus, I think if you press the "buy" button on a song or album,
if you're NOT an Apple Music paid subscriber, then you get to play
that song on your apple device/s anywhere and download to your device
to play where you don't have 4G service - but still constrained to
your Apple devices. If you ARE an Apple Music Subscriber, you don't
have to pay or press Buy on anything more for anything in the entire
Music database which Apple manages because your subscription fee
covers ALL music purchases. This does not include movies, it is just
music. 
It's a similar theme for movies, when you 'buy (rent)' a movie, you
buy the licence to play it for 48 hours (from when you start it) or if
you pay to own the movie, you can play it as many times as you like on
YOUR Apple devices too.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Music

 Hi Pete,Is that correct if you buy music  using iTunes, ie pay hard
money for it vs renting through Apple Music?Cheers 

Marcus Marcus HarrisMobile +61417965618

 
On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi all
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Re: Music

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Ronni, it will be more fun to read these terms and conditions
than watch the AFL right now! 
Many people eschew the use of the Apple ecosystem for this and many
other reasons. I am quite ok with it and have a Family Music
subscription which almost all my family utilise heavily and daily. It
has changed our way of living with music from the 80's when CD's and
cassettes were widely used to play in cars etc. Even now in the
Android environment you're obliged to subscribe to Spotify (I think,
unless you want the order set by Spotify and adverts) or other
streaming services but maybe there are still ways to play anything you
like for free. It is all about supporting the artists that put their
effort into producing it. Fair enough I reckon.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:
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Sent:Mon, 29 Jun 2020 07:09:06 +0800
Subject:Re: Music

 Yes Peter and Stephen you are correct.“If you BUY a
digital MUSIC track or album from the ITUNES store or one of its
competitors, you don't OWN it. Instead, you're BUYING a license to
play that track or album, and that license comes with an extremely
limited set of rights.”

https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html [1]

Kind Regards,

Ronni

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On 29 Jun 2020, at 6:55 am, Pete  wrote:

Correct Stephen. If you 'buy' your music from Apple, you've
actually only bought the right to play it on an Apple device. You
can't make a CD of it or copy off to any other storage means. 
I'm sure it's in the fine print.

Regards
Pete
On 28 Jun 2020, at 10:29 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi Peter.
I am not certain about this but ….I think if you bought the music
from Apple, there are restrictions about copying it.

On 28 Jun 2020, at 8:45 pm, Peter Curtis  wrote:
Hi all
Is there an alternative to ‘Music’ on the Mac? I know I’m a bit
behind the times but it appears I can’t access my music like to put
a song on a usb stick to take somewhere?
Kind regards
Peter
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Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

[Peter Crisp]

I agree with Neil's synopsis of history - if you have used one of the
applications for many years then you build your understanding of it
over those years and feel comfortable with it. I have necessarily
needed to use Outlook for my work in a Windows environment but I still
use Mail on my home MBP. I find both easy to use but Outlook is quite
a bit more advanced (in the Windows world) than Mail is on OSX. But
Mail is still more than capable to do all I need of it privately.  

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Sent:Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:32:40 +0800
Subject:Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

Hi Adam,

 

Yes, I use Outlook – not because I actually have any problem with
Apple Mail but more because I have stuck with Entourage & then Outlook
since the days when Apple Mail wasn’t as good an option. Mainly
though, back in the day, I used email much more at work than at home -
and work was generally MS based.

 

I also got very familiar with setting up various email rules – POP
rules, IMAP rules, server-side rules to direct emails from (at times)
up to around 15 different email accounts into various relevant
folders. I have less email accounts to worry about now - but still use
rules a lot. Now, no doubt, Apple Mail would let me achieve all the
same things – but I have decades of experience with the
Entourage/Outlook methods – and plenty off learning curves to ascend
as it is, I don’t need to add any more without sufficient reason!

 

Another plus - recently Georgie decided to replace her (very) old
iPhone with an Android phone – setting up Outlook on the Android
phone was pretty much just the same as on IOS.

 

 

As I recently posted, I finally moved to the subscription model for
Office and, regarding the cost, I would also note that my Office 365
subscription covers up to 6 people and up to 6 TB of cloud storage (1
TB per person) – whereas if you want more than 5GB/person of iCloud
storage you have to pay for it and if you need more than 200Gb you
have to jump to $15/person to get 2TB each. We only actually use 2 of
the 6 – but it still seems OK to me - also, don’t forget, you can
pretty much always find Office 365 subscriptions cheaper than the
standard MS price (I generally use Officeworks).

 

However, as with all these things, it really depends on what features
you want/need, how you intend to use them and across what spread of
users/devices/operating systems – what works best for me may well be
different to the best solution for other folks – despite marketing
department hopes/assumptions, I doubt there is such a thing as the
mythical “typical user” but even if this mythical creature exists,
it sure ain’t me!!

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

Neil

 

 

 

 

FROM:  on behalf of Adam Lippiatt 
REPLY-TO: 
DATE: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 at 10:49
TO: 
SUBJECT: Re: Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac

 

Great price!  I have been using Office 365 for a number of years now
and I am not sure of the value of that at $99 per year.  I know at
that price it includes Outlook, but I never use it.  

 

[Does anyone use Outlook because, for instance, it is so much better
than Apple Mail?]

 

Thanks

 

Adam

 

 

 

_

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0402 301 706 

On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:49 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:

 

Yes it is Peter.

 

But my apologies .. it was MS Office 2019 I got for that price.

I put the wrong year in my header.

 

I was running 2016 which is also 64 bit.

But my daughter’s new iMac would no longer run her 2011 MS Office.

So I got MS Office 2019 and passed my 2016 on to her.

On 17 Jun 2020, at 9:15 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:

 

Hi

Is that a 64bit program?

Kind regards

Peter

On 16 Jun 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hi folks.

 

Just wanted to let you know that I got a great deal online from
Software Depot for the above.

It cost AU$124.99 and includes a valid Software KEY.

Regards,
Stephen Chape

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Time Machine backup content

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, sorry for taking so long to respond to your kind note. Last
night (with "backupd" in the search window) I had a look and made sure
"All Messages" (top left) was selected and "Macbook Pro" was selected
in the devices panel. I see a range of line items in the main panel
which provides information which I cannot interpret what it is
actually saying. It is in 'computer speak' but notwithstanding that,
with Timetracker, I have been able to see exactly what content (and
how many MB for each component part of it) was included in these
backups.
So much stuff being backed up for seemingly no good reason, but then I
am sure it is only doing what it has been programmed to do. Invaluable
to recover from a HDD loss (which I have had once). 
Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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To:
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Sent:Wed, 10 Jun 2020 19:03:11 +0800
Subject:Re: Time Machine backup content

 Hi Peter,
Do you have “All Messages” selected under the log database in the
left column?

Kind Regards,

Ronni

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On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:22 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Thanks for that Ronni. I had a look in there using Console on my
wifes MBP (2011) and when I type in "backupd" i get a blank panel on
the right side. Does it depend on the selection on the left side
panel?
I also went looking for the application I was thinking of and I found
it (on my MBP). It is called TimeTracker. A third party app. I used it
many years ago from similar curiosities about huge backups happening
with little or no activity on the MBP. 
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36691/timetracker [1]
I don't have this on my wifes MBP so when I get time I'll install and
have a look at the backup content report. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Cc:
Sent:Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:53:54 +0800
Subject:Re: Time Machine backup content

Hi Peter,
Everything that Time Machine does is logged to the system log, so it
is possible to get more detailed reports on its activities. Open
Console in Applications/Utilities
To find the activity for Time Machine, you only need to know that the
Time Machine process is called backupd. Click in the search box at
the top right of the window (or just press Command-Option-F),
then type backupd as you type, Console will filter the results to
only show those entries related to the backupd process. 
The filtered output results are shown in three columns and it’s the
Message column that’s most useful. The messages reveal how much data
was backed up, what older backups were removed, and other general
information about the backup run.
Kind regards,
Ronni

On 10 Jun 2020, at 9:32 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi folks, I did a search in the WAMUG archives and couldn't find the
thread which shows how to interrogate the actual backed up content for
each hourly backup for TM. 
Reason I ask is that I am bringing my wifes TM backup up to date as it
had been manually stopped for a short period, then forgotten about (a
few months!!!) and now back in business. So yesterday I set it off
again (used the Ethernet connection as I knew it would be a large
backup). She also had clear out a LOT of photos off her iphone which
meant it would be huge. So yesterday it set off (75GB) and by this
morning it was finished. I've been monitoring it through this morning
and I have seen subsequent hourly backups SINCE completing
successfully the 75GB backup and the subsequent hourly backups have
been 745MB and 220MB each. There was zero activity on the MBP since
waking it this morning.
Why would there be subsequent backups of such size with no specific
activity on the keyboard. Obviously there is something being backed up
and I'd like to investigate.
How do I do this?

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp
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Re: Time Machine backup content

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for that Ronni. I had a look in there using Console on my wifes
MBP (2011) and when I type in "backupd" i get a blank panel on the
right side. Does it depend on the selection on the left side panel?
I also went looking for the application I was thinking of and I found
it (on my MBP). It is called TimeTracker. A third party app. I used it
many years ago from similar curiosities about huge backups happening
with little or no activity on the MBP. 
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36691/timetracker [1]
I don't have this on my wifes MBP so when I get time I'll install and
have a look at the backup content report. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Cc:
Sent:Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:53:54 +0800
Subject:Re: Time Machine backup content

Hi Peter,
Everything that Time Machine does is logged to the system log, so it
is possible to get more detailed reports on its activities. Open
Console in Applications/Utilities
To find the activity for Time Machine, you only need to know that the
Time Machine process is called backupd. Click in the search box at
the top right of the window (or just press Command-Option-F),
then type backupd as you type, Console will filter the results to
only show those entries related to the backupd process. 
The filtered output results are shown in three columns and it’s the
Message column that’s most useful. The messages reveal how much data
was backed up, what older backups were removed, and other general
information about the backup run.
Kind regards,
Ronni

On 10 Jun 2020, at 9:32 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi folks, I did a search in the WAMUG archives and couldn't find the
thread which shows how to interrogate the actual backed up content for
each hourly backup for TM. 
Reason I ask is that I am bringing my wifes TM backup up to date as it
had been manually stopped for a short period, then forgotten about (a
few months!!!) and now back in business. So yesterday I set it off
again (used the Ethernet connection as I knew it would be a large
backup). She also had clear out a LOT of photos off her iphone which
meant it would be huge. So yesterday it set off (75GB) and by this
morning it was finished. I've been monitoring it through this morning
and I have seen subsequent hourly backups SINCE completing
successfully the 75GB backup and the subsequent hourly backups have
been 745MB and 220MB each. There was zero activity on the MBP since
waking it this morning.
Why would there be subsequent backups of such size with no specific
activity on the keyboard. Obviously there is something being backed up
and I'd like to investigate.
How do I do this?

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp
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Time Machine backup content

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, I did a search in the WAMUG archives and couldn't find the
thread which shows how to interrogate the actual backed up content for
each hourly backup for TM. 
Reason I ask is that I am bringing my wifes TM backup up to date as it
had been manually stopped for a short period, then forgotten about (a
few months!!!) and now back in business. So yesterday I set it off
again (used the Ethernet connection as I knew it would be a large
backup). She also had clear out a LOT of photos off her iphone which
meant it would be huge. So yesterday it set off (75GB) and by this
morning it was finished. I've been monitoring it through this morning
and I have seen subsequent hourly backups SINCE completing
successfully the 75GB backup and the subsequent hourly backups have
been 745MB and 220MB each. There was zero activity on the MBP since
waking it this morning.
Why would there be subsequent backups of such size with no specific
activity on the keyboard. Obviously there is something being backed up
and I'd like to investigate.
How do I do this?

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Daniel, thanks for those links, I'll review those and see where too
next. My wifes MBP is a 13" MBP 2011 so probably limited in the
graphics space per your comments.  

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: 2011 MP with 2 monitors

 Yes, as Neil mentioned - I’m pretty sure you can’t run a display
off a Firewire port - different “technologies”. 
 You could try something like this - 
 https://www.amazon.com.au/LINDY-Mini-DisplayPort-DVI-D-MST/dp/B01F0VYI5G
 Never tried it myself,….but one thing to bear in mind is that same
only “split” the display,..so you’re not really getting “2
monitors”, you’re getting 1 display spread over 2 monitors.
 The other issue could also be if the one Graphics card can handle it
all as well. So there could be issues there.
 (This can differ depending if it’s a MBPro 13” or a 15” as I
didn’t see it mentioned there.) - the MBPro 15” has a dedicated
graphics card, so slightly more powerful to run external monitors then
the 13” which uses less memory to run it.

 Or a DVI input splitter - 
 
https://www.auselectronicsdirect.com.au/2-port-dvi-d-dual-link-video-splitter?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9625j-zv6QIVliQrCh2hUAodEAQYFCABEgJT3vD_BwE

 Other options could be a dock of some sort also. One from Thunderbolt
to say HDMI for one monitor and DVI for the other monitor.
 Or a type of splitter like the above.

 Hope something there helps.
 Kind regards
 Daniel

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 > On 7 Jun 2020, at 8:33 pm, Pete  wrote:
 > 
 > Thanks for that feedback Neil. Much appreciated.
 > 
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > Pete
 > 
 >> On 7 Jun 2020, at 7:51 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi Pete, 
 >> 
 >> I don't think you can drive a display from the firewire port -
I've never seen a cable or adaptor that would achieve this.
 >> 
 >> This guy used a usb video adaptor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25=vIVZI1cFiAw=emb_logo
to drive 2 monitors from a 2011 Macbook Pro (that was back in 2011).
 >> 
 >> His monitor was, I think, DVI but the adaptor also handles HDMI -
it's not cheap though
https://www.amazon.com.au/Diamond-Multimedia-BVU195-2048x1152-1920x1080/dp/B002GHBW4S

 >> OWC have a similar thing
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU3DVIA/ 
 >> 
 >> This article includes other ways involving thunderbolt
daisy-chaining
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/62537/can-i-have-multiple-monitors-on-my-macbook-pro-early-2011
but since that involves either a thunderbolt display or thunderbolt
docks, I don't know if it would be any cheaper.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> HTH
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Cheers
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Neil
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> On 07/06/20, 18:12, "Peter Crisp"  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011
MacBook Pro with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She
wants to be able to use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a
bit of a struggle to see how this can be done. 
 >> 
 >> The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a
Thunderbolt to HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying
success with finding Firewire to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second
monitor. The lads at JB HIFI didn’t know what Firewire even was!!!
They probably hadn’t been born when Firewire was common place. 
 >> 
 >> Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display
duties?
 >> 
 >> Regards
 >> 
 >> 
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2011 MP with 2 monitors

[Peter Crisp]

Hi there, my Wife is to soon be working from home. She has a 2011 MacBook Pro 
with SSD and RAM upgrade so it’s reasonably capable. She wants to be able to 
use two 24” monitors we have in the office and a bit of a struggle to see how 
this can be done. 

The MBP has a FireWire, Thunderbolt and 2 USB ports. I have a Thunderbolt to 
HDMI cable so that gives one monitor but varying success with finding Firewire 
to HDMI (or VGA) to feed the second monitor. The lads at JB HIFI didn’t know 
what Firewire even was!!! They probably hadn’t been born when Firewire was 
common place. 

Does anyone have any tips on using the Firewire port for display duties?

Regards


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Re: WAMUGMeeting Tue June 2

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Stephen, I don't think you actually need an app, the web link Peter
has provided inhis emailed invitation will open a web browser page
which will provide the connection. 
If you prefer an app interface, this one looks like it could do it.
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/52421/zoom [1] 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: WAMUGMeeting Tue June 2

 Wow !There are so many Apps on the App Store called “Zoom
something”.Which one do I need to download for the meeting ?

On 2 Jun 2020, at 1:44 pm, wendy.corr...@iinet.net.au [2] wrote:
Hi Maureen
I love the introduction!  In many respects we are like the early
explorers aren't we?
I'm not sure if I can join you tonight but if you could send me the
details that would be great.
Cheerswendy

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Subject:WAMUGMeeting Tue June 2

Hello fellow WAMUGgers,
This Tuesday, 2 June is the anniversary of the explorers, John and
Alexander Forrest, discovering Weld Springs, an oasis of clear, fresh
water in central Western Australia. Like the Forrest brothers who
searched for new routes through the outback so your WAMUG committee is
seeking a better way to bring bring our monthly meetings to “a
computer near you.” 
This month’s general meeting will again be held via Zoom. We will
start at 7:30pm and run for 30 minutes.  A  Q will take place
afterwards for those who may have questions. 
In this meeting, all going well, we will be looking at Scannable, a
scanning app for iphone & ipad and some uses for Apples’s Notes.
This is a share & learn meeting, so if you also have a great scanning
app or use Notes for something  - well other than recording notes -
we would love you to join in the meeting and share your knowledge.
If you would like to participate please contact me. On Tuesday you
will receive the meeting ID & password
Kind regards,
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Re: Extending win to cover black spots

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Marcus, have you considered moving your current modem to a more
central location to improve WIFI signal to all corners (maybe your
communications incomer is limiting that opportunity)? Is the floor
concrete or timber, this may limit the WIFI strength to the floor the
modem is NOT on.
Notwithstanding those items, I have a house which is very long (single
storey) and the base WIFI (Apple Time Capsule) is up one end because
of where the phone line comes into the building. Some years ago I
bought a 30m Ethernet cable to run down the length of the house
(through the ceiling but properly laid and fitted with fascia plates
at each wall entry). At the far end I set up an Apple Airport Extreme
(donated by Dad). This improved the wifi signal at that end of the
house sufficiently to now service three extremely data hungry kids
with constant video streaming "requirements". No problems for me. Once
or twice a year I need to reboot the Express but for peace of mind
probably not because it was technically needed.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Extending win to cover black spots

 Hello all at WAMUG, 
I live in a two storey apartment and I am connected to the NBN and my
provider is iiNET.
My router/modem is a TP Link Archer VR 1600v— AC 1600  Wireless
Dual Band
It is connected at the front door and broadcasts wifi ok to the middle
of both levels but not to the rear of the either level
I decided to search for wireless range extenders and then came across
power line adapter kits.I found both items made by TP Link and
available locally off the shelf.
My query is in parts.Would those using range extenders recommend I buy
one? And would it be a TP Link model again?And then, would a powerline
adaptor of a wireless range extender be the better choice.Regards 

Marcus Harris
P.O. Box 7135
Shenton Park
Western Australia 6008
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Re: auto-starting iMac

[Peter Crisp]

Bizarre is all I can think of. What brand/model is the modem? 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:auto-starting iMac

 Hi,
This isn't a problem, but a rather puzzling behaviour from my iMac. We
have recently connected the NBN to a house we are building, so I have
the modem and an old (~2007) iMac in the house, connected by ethernet.
Because we aren't living there I turn both computer and modem off most
of the time.
Right from the start I noticed that if I turned the modem on first the
iMac booted itself up without being touched. OK, I can accept that.
But one day I reached out to turn on the modem, changed my mind and
didn't touch it, but the iMac booted anyway. The next time I was on
site I tried an experiment, and just walked over to the modem and
waved my hand in front of it. Sure enough, the iMac booted. Yesterday
I got Geoff to try (in case I had a high static charge and it was me
doing it). He never even got to wave his hand - he just walked briskly
over to the modem and the iMac booted!
It does seem to be associated with the modem - I can go to the desk
and sit in front of the iMac and nothing happens unless I get close to
the modem.
Any ideas?
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Re: Infection best Malware Removal Software needed

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Julie, sorry I don't know anything about MacScan but others here
may be able to comment. I've only used Malwarebytes a couple of times
literally and years ago at that. There may be some online review
comments that help with this understanding. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Infection best Malware Removal Software needed

 Hi Peter (Crisp)
Out of interest, what is your opinion on MacScan ?  I’ve been using
this for many years, but also use the free version of Malwarebytes,
which detected some bug in the past, whereas the McScan didn’t.I
wondered if this was a sales gimmick.
Regards
Jewels

On 19 May 2020, at 9:42 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi Peter, this one https://www.malwarebytes.com/ [2] is one that is
universally accepted across this forum, I know Ronni recommends it so
can be trusted as a bona fide good performing thing. I have used it
myself some years ago.
Good luck.
Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Infection best Malware Removal Software needed

 Hello

 I seem to have picked up a malware infection (itpatratr.com [5]) on
one 
 of my web sites which is re-directing my pages.

 Could someone suggest a suitable malware software package to
purchase.

 I have Avast free (that is what picked up the virus) but others 
 include Total AV, Scan Guard etc. and I wish to cover 3 desktop Macs 
 and 1 Mac Book Pro lap top.

 any suggestions would be welcome

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Re: Infection best Malware Removal Software needed

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Peter, this one https://www.malwarebytes.com/ [1] is one that is
universally accepted across this forum, I know Ronni recommends it so
can be trusted as a bona fide good performing thing. I have used it
myself some years ago.
Good luck.
Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Sent:Tue, 19 May 2020 09:18:51 +0800
Subject:Infection best Malware Removal Software needed

 Hello

 I seem to have picked up a malware infection (itpatratr.com) on one 
 of my web sites which is re-directing my pages.

 Could someone suggest a suitable malware software package to
purchase.

 I have Avast free (that is what picked up the virus) but others 
 include Total AV, Scan Guard etc. and I wish to cover 3 desktop Macs 
 and 1 Mac Book Pro lap top.

 any suggestions would be welcome

 Peter Faulks
 -- 
 Peter & Irene Faulks
 Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close
 PARKWOOD Western Australia 6147

 Phone: +618 9457 0747 (h)
 Peter Mobile: 0416 187 937
 Irene Mobile: 0439 933 404

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Re: Iphone

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Bill, try to close down all open apps (swipe up each app after
double click on home) then do a phone reset - (hold Power and Home
buttons simultaneously until the screen goes blank and then the Apple
icon appears - around 10 seconds).
See if this resolves the issue and let us know if still an issue.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Iphone

Hello I have an iPhone 5s iOS 12.4.6 cannot send message with photo
normal text works OK any suggestions where to look.Regards Bill
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Apple Watch 4 or 5 wanted

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, my wife is looking to get one of these. Detail below. 

I am curious to know if I buy one from a private seller, what and how do I 
check that it is unlocked and released from the clutches of the sellers Apple 
account?

Any other tips appreciated.

Wanted to Buy - Apple Watch Cellular 40mm.  Series 4 or 5 in very good 
condition.

Regards


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Re: Popclip

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Peter for the update. Will take a look further into it.  

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Popclip

 It seems I was suffering from severe memory dysfunction during last
night’s Zoom meeting when I informed everyone that PopClip is free.
Turns out that’s not quite true. It’s $19.99 on the App Store. 

 It’s the 100 or so extensions that are free. Apologies to everyone.

 Kind regards,

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 Perth, Western Australia
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Re: Can you zoom into help?

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Maureen, since I have being WFH been using Microsoft Teams for work
related meetings some audio only, others video and audio with numerous
screen shares to expand visibility to all attendees. Teams (an MS
version of ZOOM I understand) has been an overnight sensation really.
I can see the benefit for the WAMUG meetings too. For me, as I live in
Mandurah and use public transport to commute to the city it has been
impossible to make the WAMUG meetings but I have wanted on occasion to
get to one to see what they're like.  
Please include me for the invite to next Tuesdays' meeting - if I an
in the first 12.
Will it be an Audio only session or video included - it's just I may
have to dust of my WCE shirt if video included ha ha.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Can you zoom into help?

Hello MaureenEven though I don't live in WA anymore I am still a
member and would be happy to partake in the Zoom test if you are
running short of numbers.Regards Bill & Juliet Kitson
On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:07 AM  wrote:

Hello fellow wamuggers
I hope you are all keeping safe and well. The events of the last five
months have certainly resulted in changes to our lifestyles and
behaviours. Hopefully, it will not be too long before we can resume
those parts of our lives that we miss the most.
With the restrictions on meetings of no more than two people, the
WAMUG committee has had to cancel our General and Committee
meetings.  That’s when the idea of using Zoom, the video
conferencing panacea to Covid -19 iso, for our committee meeting
evolved. We had a go and soon realised the potential of this app,
especially for our General meetings.  Having Zoom meetings would
allow any member to participate no matter where they live. 
So, we want to have an 'exploratory' Zoom session with more than just
five people, and we need some volunteers. If you can help out by
participating, we would love to hear from you. 
THE SESSION WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT TUESDAY, 12 MAY AT 7:30 PM AND WILL
LAST FOR 40 MINUTES. 
There is no need to sign up to Zoom. Participants will receive an
email link to the meeting, a Meeting ID and Password. Added to this
security is the fact that the meeting host, Peter Hinchcliff, has to
'admit' members. (Does that means he is a digital bouncer).  With
extra numbers, we will be able to get a better feel of how Zoom works
rather than relying on Youtube faux pas and media reported failures
and from your feedback see if it is worth pursuing further.
If you would like to participate, please email me.  We are limiting
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Re: Horrible Catalina

[Peter Crisp]

Ok thanks Peter. I see now two options available for the 32 bit check.
Will take a look to see what I have at risk of 32 bit programs. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Horrible Catalina

On 30 Apr 2020, at 12:32 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Thanks Stephen for this and the other email on the Office link. I
presume there is a way to screen all applications installed to confirm
the 32bit/64bit compatibility as a predecessor before deciding to
launch into Catalina update.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

The System Report in MacOS gives you a guide, but by far the best
resource is Go64 from St Clair Software
https://www.stclairsoft.com/Go64/ [2]
This program scans your computer and shows a list of all software on
your computer. You can clearly see which apps are 64 bit and which are
32 bit, but it goes so much further than that. It also shows a list of
software which is “mostly” 64 bit, but may have problems because
of some components which may be 32 bit. In other words, the programs
will launch, but certain activities may wither fail or even cause the
software ot crash.
Go64 bit also has a delete function, letting you remove 32 -bit
software on the fly, rather than having to make a note of it and look
for it afterwards. Handy as a clean up tool even after installing
Catalina.
These are just a few of its functions. Did I mention it’s free
(donationware)? 
Well worth the download.
 Kind regards,
Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer ServicesFileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
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Re: Horrible Catalina

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for that Peter. I don't think I have ever launched Numbers in
my life. I must take a look for my curiosity.  

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Horrible Catalina

On 30 Apr 2020, at 3:05 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
Hi Peter,

 I must admit that, like you, I stayed away from subscription
software until very recently – I just wanted a one-off purchase that
I could use until it either stopped working or a new version had a
“must-have” feature – and I think Apple introducing Time Machine
was the last time I thought a new feature was must-have  ;o)

 However when I recently, finally, moved up from Snow Leopard I had
to say goodbye to Office 2004!

Like you, I resist subscription software as much as possible, but I
did bite the bullet with Office 365 and, like you, appreciate the
benefits. The one subscription lets me use it legally on all of my
computers, and even in Windows running under Parallels desktop.
I’d rather not use Microsoft Office at all, but I’m realistic
enough to know that it’s a necessary evil. I use it mainly to open
Office documents. While many other programs also open Office documents
such as Pages, Numbers, etc, sometimes the only way you can see the
document as it was intended is to open it in Office itself.
For document creation I pretty much always use Pages and Numbers. I
find Numbers to be an extremely capable and highly underrated
spreadsheet application. It certainly doesn’t do everything that
Excel does (and the Mac version of Excel doesn’t do everything the
Windows version does!) but Numbers does some very useful things that
leave Excel in the dust when it comes to efficiency and presentation.
I do wish Apple would pay more attention to it.
 Kind regards,
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Solutions Developer
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Re: Bad Catalina

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for that Alan, will do that and see what I am exposed to if I
consider a Catalina update. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Bad Catalina

 Peter
32 bit apps will not work on Catalina.  Catalina essentially ignores
any 32 bit app if you leave them installed before upgrading.
Easiest way to check for 32 bit apps installed is to run an app called
“32bit Check” by Howard Oakley and is available to download from
his website eclecticlight.co [1]
CheersAlan

On 30 Apr 2020, at 2:55 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi Pat, I note that you have started a new thread "Bad Catalina" which
breaks the continuity from the previous "Horrible Catalina" thread.
But either way on the topic of apps in Catalina, I note a bit of
trouble others experiencing there too. 

You or others may know the answer to this one, are apps installed on
OSX machines running Catalina, subject in the same way to 32bit V
64bit compatibility? I presume so but keen to hear from others if they
have any wisdom on this. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Bad Catalina

 I have just struck another obstacle because my computer does not have
facial identification. I wanted to buy a certain game app from the app
store. I can only provide a thumb print, so no new game for me.
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Re: Horrible Catalina

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, thanks Neil, spot on it comes down to what suits the user. My
dear departed Dad was a strong Office 365 proponent too but he was
exclusively using his Mac and for the reasons you mention, it suited
his lifestyle well too.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Horrible Catalina

Hi Peter,

 

I must admit that, like you, I stayed away from subscription software
until very recently – I just wanted a one-off purchase that I could
use until it either stopped working or a new version had a
“must-have” feature – and I think Apple introducing Time Machine
was the last time I thought a new feature was must-have  ;o)

 

However when I recently, finally, moved up from Snow Leopard I had to
say goodbye to Office 2004!

 

After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, I finally bit the bullet
and went to Office 365 and, I must admit, I am actually glad I did –
although I do renew every year by buying Office 365 from Officeworks
(and just applying this to my existing account) which is always
cheaper than MS auto-renew price. I guess there are a few factors for
me:

 

* I use a LOT of Excel spreadsheets/workbooks and I really want/need
to stick with Excel rather than any spreadsheet alternative.

* Georgina is on the Albany Hospice board and still has to
collaboratively deal with Word documents.

* One subscription covers both Georgina and myself and we each get
our 1TB OneDrive storage included

* With just one subscription, It all integrates well between several
computers, iPads etc

* I don’t have to worry about whether I need to buy new updates –
they are included with the subscription

* Being retired, we no longer have work computer(s) as an alternative

 

I realise that is just what suits me and that your situation is
different, particularly if you rarely use Office programs, but I just
thought I’d relay my experience.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

 

FROM:  on behalf of Peter Crisp 
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DATE: Wednesday, 29 April 2020 at 17:22
TO: 
SUBJECT: Re: Horrible Catalina

 

Righto, thanks for that link Ronni. For a number of reasons in
reading through the link, I can see no reason for me to update to
Catalina yet - if ever. Currently I have an old (but still
functioning) MS Office for Mac 2011 which is useful for whenever I do
have an Office file, but I don't use it often and have alternatives
with my Work Windows laptop. The removal of iTunes. I didn't explore
that but it seems pretty large in impact. Presumably there are
precautions to take. But for the moment, with my perfectly functioning
Macbook Pro 2013 running High Sierra, it is all good. 

 

All I have to remind me is a constant red dot over App store saying I
have an OSX update I 'should' do. 

 

Will look into the iTunes things some time. 

 

I also think there is no longer available a localized installation
for Office 2016 or later and we now have to resort to the constant
funding model the software developers want us to use with annual fees
- Office 365 as an example. I may use Word or Excel up to 5 times in
any one year. It really doesn't make sense to fund an annual
subscription for one machine when I have alternatives. I know my case
is unique to me and others will be solely reliant on their Mac's, so
then it is justifiable for them. 

 

Kind Regards

 

 

    Peter Crisp

 

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Hi Pat,

 


https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/12/20908567/apple-macos-catalina-breaking-apps-32-bit-support-how-to-prepare-avoid-update
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‘Apple’s latest Mac update, macOS Catalina [2], was released
earlier this week, and with it came a flurry of complications both
minor and major. 

For one, this update is the first for Apple to drop 32-bit
application support, which is causing all sorts of headaches for users
of smaller apps, plug-ins, and other software that may not be updated
for quite some time or may have been created by a company that no
longer exists. There are also a fair number of other issues with
Catalina, like Adobe software incompatibility problems and unforeseen
hurdles related to the removal of iTunes. 

That leads us to a series of important questions for Mac users who
may be at risk of having important workflows disrupted by Catalina.
What exactly might go wrong if you do upgrade? Should you upgrade now,
and what should you do before pulling t

Re: Bad Catalina

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Pat, I note that you have started a new thread "Bad Catalina" which
breaks the continuity from the previous "Horrible Catalina" thread.
But either way on the topic of apps in Catalina, I note a bit of
trouble others experiencing there too. 

You or others may know the answer to this one, are apps installed on
OSX machines running Catalina, subject in the same way to 32bit V
64bit compatibility? I presume so but keen to hear from others if they
have any wisdom on this. 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Bad Catalina

 I have just struck another obstacle because my computer does not have
facial identification. I wanted to buy a certain game app from the app
store. I can only provide a thumb print, so no new game for me.
Gr. 

 Pat Scott
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Re: Horrible Catalina

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Stephen for this and the other email on the Office link. I
presume there is a way to screen all applications installed to confirm
the 32bit/64bit compatibility as a predecessor before deciding to
launch into Catalina update.

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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 Yes Peter.
I have not had any issues.It is possible that Office 2011 may have
because Microsoft stopped supporting it about 18 months ago.But I
spent quite a bit of time (well before Catalina release) identifying
all my 32 bit software on my iMac.Then set about either updating them
or replacing them.

On 30 Apr 2020, at 10:51 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi Stephen, thanks for that. I presume then that Office 2016 is
compatible and stable enough with Catalina OS? 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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 My wife and I have both been on Catalina since about 2 weeks after
release.I find it very stable and have no issues at all.
But I made sure for some time prior that I gradually upgraded any 32
bit Apps to 64 bit.Or I replaced them with something else.So when we
moved to Catalina it went quite smoothly.
PS: I downloaded a genuine MS Office 2016 (with license) foe
$110.00.But I tend to do a lot of research before diving into
anything.

On 30 Apr 2020, at 9:07 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi Bill, thanks for that response. It triggered me into looking at the
availability of MS Office for a once off purchase. I see Office 2019
is also available for once off purchase. I don't want to go down the
Office 365 route. All I could see was the single user licence. Do MS
still do the 5 user licence for MS Office once off purchase? I thought
that Office 2011 would be incompatible with Catalina (being the 64 bit
requirement). 
Does anyone have any guidance for a Once off purchased MS Office
(Multi licence) that is Catalina compatible?

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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Subject:Re: Horrible Catalina

Office 2016 is available from software giants will run ok on Catalina
but a few functions are much harder to do compared to 2011.Regards
Bill K
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 8:06 AM clamshell  wrote:
Hi, Alan,
It’s not just disliking Catalina; it is interfering with what I am
trying to do. I use a Wacom tablet and stylus. Just moving the stylus
around causes the interface to switch to another, random location, or
go totally blank. And, I have 2 small Western Digital external disks.
On the previous IOS, they showed up on the desktop — now they
don’t. What’s worse is, I can’t eject them.  I have more gripes
about Catalina, but I wont inflict them on you.
Anyway, thanks very much for the links to the Queensland User
Groups.Cheers,Pat

On 29 Apr 2020, at 18:03, Alan Smith  wrote:

Hi Pat
Sorry to read that you dislike Catalina.  It will be replaced - one
day!  In the meantime - - -.
AppleUsers dot org website lists five MUGs in Queensland. 
  https://www.appleusers.org/mug-listings/ [9]
 Most appropriate would seem to be Apple-Q in Brisbane:
  http://www.apple-q.org.au [10]
CheersAlan

On 29 Apr 2020, at 2:55 pm, Pat  wrote:
 Hello, WAMUGgers, I  moved over to Brisbane,4 months ago. My
computer didn’t catch up with me for several of those months.  When
I finally cranked it up and pushed the Start button, there was
Catalina. Well, I thought, I hope it is as good as its predecessor.
But, I was in for shock after shock. To  put it  in straight words:
I Hate Catalina.  There are so many horrible changes; what has Apple
been thinking? I read about the Mac virus problem, but that doesn’t
warrant the  infliction of Catalina on unsuspecting computers.

Anyway, does anyone know if Catallina will be superceded?  Soon? 
And does anyone know if there is anything like WAMUG in Brisbane? 

I wish good health for all of you in these treacherous times.

Stay safe and warm,
Pat Scott

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