Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why We Read Wikipedia in your language

If I want this done for Hebrew and Russian, do I just reply to this thread? Or did I miss the instructions in the first email? :) בתאריך 21 באפר׳ 2017 19:46,‏ "Leila Zia" כתב: > Hi all, > > ==Background== > In November 2016, I presented the result of a joint research that > helped us understand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

Mmmm, the Hebrew Wikipedia has been gender-neutral for at least eight years :) So Commons is not exactly the first project to do this. בתאריך 12 באפר׳ 2017 10:14 AM,‏ "Fæ" כתב: I am delighted to say that Wikimedia Commons is today the /first/ project to have an official Gender-neutral language

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

Writing should, indeed, be gender-neutral when the gender is not known. But when the gender is known, it is possible in MediaWiki software to write messaging according to the indicated gender. Note that in the English grammar it is needed relatively rarely in the first place. It is relevant for fe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 19 March 2017)

Here's what making me happy this week: The Hebrew Wikipedia community completed initial training of ORES, so ORES can be enabled in this language soon. 48 Wikipedians manually examined 5000 random diffs and marked them as damaging or not, and whether they appear to have been done in good faith or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] March 2: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#9)

2017-03-06 15:12 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher : > Rogol, > > They are a vendor we have used in the past to conduct focus groups and run > surveys for the annual fundraiser in the five largest English speaking > countries. We were satisfied with the quality of their work in the past, so > we contacted

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help! Can't save on any Wikipedia

This happened lately to a lot of Wikipedians, including myself. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151770 for the technical details. Briefly, if you delete all your cookies and log back in to Wikipedia, then this should work. (Deleting your cookies will cause you to get logged out of all your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about Wikimedia-l communications

A couple of other points: 1. This list is practically English-only. It's not officially defined, and occasionally people say that posting in other languages is allowed. In practice it doesn't work, and it cannot work—mixing different languages in one list is just wrong. And it's not even a problem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Our problem with India

I am quite amused; it doesn't happen to me much that people take so much care to protect my privacy. I do appreciate it, though. In case nobody guessed it, I am (probably) "Mr. Western Wikipedian". The language gap in Wikipedias has always concerned me since the very first day I tried editing Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Freedom of panorama today approved by Belgian parliament

So can an image of Atomium be finally posted to Commons? :) בתאריך 17 ביוני 2016 02:39,‏ "Romaine Wiki" כתב: > Hi all, > > Great news! > > Freedom of panorama has been voted today in the Belgian parliament. > A mayority voted in favour of freedom of panorama, including commercial > use. > > Soon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Kenya - copyright infringement

rry for some nit-picking. It is only one variation of NDS it is not a > variation of NL. The problem with NDS is that there has been a formal > adoption of one variant of NDS that is only for Germany. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 11 April 2016 at 09:34, Amir E. Aharoni > wro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Kenya - copyright infringement

Wikipedia goes by languages, never by countries. (There's nds-nl.wikipedia.org, where nl kind of stands for “Netherlands”, but it's still a language variant for Netherlands. In any case, it's very much an anomaly.) Wikimedia Kenya would be ke.wikimedia.org, if it existed. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

Is it a written rule that one needs to know English to participate in Wikimedia's governance? If it isn't, then the word "need" must not be used about it. If it is, it must be changed (and that would be a topic for a different thread). English is an important practicality, but demanding it goes a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A quick note about the future

Nathan, as pretty much always, is correct. Everybody is tired of this mystery. I'm not blaming anybody - it's part of the unfortunate atmosphere of unnecessary secrecy, which plagued us for way too long. That's what creates the accusations and the wild rumors in all sides. We all have to fix it i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

Well, since someone brought that up, I'd risk asking: Does it make any sense to make the board in some of its future incarnations more representative? More representative of the editors? More representative of the world's lands and languages? More representative of the world's different economic re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

Delphine, this was possibly the strongest email of the last four months or so of this mind-numbing nonsense. The Board. I never really understood it. I did feel that it's supposed to lead the editors and the staff in _some_ way, but, being both a staff member and a volunteer editor, I never felt t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

בתאריך 19 בפבר׳ 2016 09:31,‏ "Ben Creasy" כתב: > > OK, in terms of problems, staff are saying that it's Lila. Do you want them to > be more specific in a public mailing list about how and where she has > disappointed them? That seems like an awkward situation for Lila. ... And for the staff, no

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An Open Letter to Wikimedia Foundation BoT

Thank you so much for chiming in, Gayle. This means a lot. בתאריך 19 בפבר׳ 2016 10:17,‏ "Gayle Karen Young" כתב: > People will leave despite how much they love a place, its mission, and its > volunteers at the point it becomes too painful for them to stay. And no one > can make that decision for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia at 15 & its African language editions

It's quite true, sadly. One thing that that blog post doesn't mention is that the periods of growth in Yoruba and Malagasy happened mostly thanks to bots :( There is some hard-to-notice, but real and organic growth in the number of articles in Xhosa in the last year. I know it because I traveled

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A page about new editors in different projects

The whole point of that page is that they are _interviewed_ and the stories are published if they _want_ it. If they are uncomfortable with the attention, no story is published. I thank all the people who say that they like the idea :) My original intention was to try to find similar pages and so

[Wikimedia-l] A page about new editors in different projects

Hi, In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a page [1] that highlights editors who recently became active - shows a short interview with them and welcomes them to the community in a nice way. It's not so much a help and a support page like English Wikipedia, but more like a newsletter or a blog that desc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Just to be sure: this is the location

I don't remember such a... stately location since Library of Congress 2012 (though I didn't attend the recent Princess of Asturias event). בתאריך 25 בנוב׳ 2015 13:28,‏ "Romaine Wiki" כתב: > Hi all, > > As a large group of Wikipedians is going to gather in an unusual building > today, hereby a pho

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Help on Yoruba Wikipedia Project

> The Content translation tool is currently unsupported by Yoruba Language. Had it been its working, I would have translate hundreds of English Wikipedia contents. Actually, it is supported in Yoruba, and in all the languages in which there is a Wikipedia. It doesn't yet have support for machine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

2015-09-02 3:15 GMT+03:00 MZMcBride : > What I'm struggling with here is that Flow seems to have failed to > deliver. It hasn't met its goals of covering even basic talk pages and it > sounds as though further development work on Flow will now be suspended. > > From my perspective, after over two y

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons

e‬ 2015-07-30 16:48 GMT+03:00 David Gerard : > On 30 July 2015 at 14:43, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > > I've been doing this in Israel for a while already. (In Hebrew! From > right > > to left! Thanks to User:Mooeypoo [cced], she is awesome!) > > It

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons

I've been doing this in Israel for a while already. (In Hebrew! From right to left! Thanks to User:Mooeypoo [cced], she is awesome!) It's pretty successful. Basic formatting, headings, and citations are far, far easier to explain using VE. I do *mention* the source editor, because it's inevitabl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Board of Trustees Chair and Vice Chair positions

Congratulations! Keep it free! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-07-16 17:04 GMT-05:00 Jan-Bart de Vreede : > Hello Everyone > > I am happy to inform you that the Board has unani

Re: [Wikimedia-l] US affiliates (was: Re: WMF office location and remodel)

> The WMF will become a truly global organization when a Wikimedia US > chapter is founded ;-) W Not quite, but it would be an important step in that direction. Work on USA projects should be done by USA Wikimedia chapters and other USA organization, not by the Foundation. It used to be worse in t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Design] Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis

The first problem I always think about is figuring out which template to insert - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55590 Template parameter insertion works mostly fine if TemplateData is defined. This requires some effort from the community, but it's reasonable. But the editor always has to type

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Languages] Wikipedia article per speaker

Dry article creation with little actual community interaction like discussions, arguments and reverts, is problematic, but it does have one overlooked advantage, which I myself didn't quite realize just a few months ago: Creating a lot of texts that are known to be corresponding (a.k.a. parallel) c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

ting, but a generic biography infobox has already > been done with the PrepBio tool (from Magnus) so you could use that: > https://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > > > H

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

but shouldn't this be possible > to do from the dashboard? > > Thanks for all of your work on this, because I do believe translating > existing content is a direction that I personally want to take in the > Wikiverse in general. > Jane > > Thanks, > Jane > > O

[Wikimedia-l] Board diversity

[ Split from "Results of 2015 WMF Board elections‏" ] 2015-06-06 13:19 GMT+03:00 Chris Keating : > 2) There is nothing in the process to produce any diversity in the result. Indeed. I don't see much active effort to encourage diversity in gender, professional skills, economic background, language

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

I am AWFULLY biased about this, but I'll be shameless anyway; please slap me if I overstep the self-promotion. I did a Wikipedia editing workshop in the University of South Africa in Pretoria yesterday. As far as I know, it was the first one ever that focused on using the recently enabled ContentT

[Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

[ cross-posted to MediaWiki-i18n, Wikimedia-L and Wikitech-L ] Dear Wikimedians, The 2000th article that was written using the ContentTranslation extension was published today. Article #2000 was translated from English to Greek, and it's about Škocjan Caves, a UNESCO World Heritage site in Slove

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open Well-Tempered Clavier

I don't know, I wondered, too. בתאריך 21 במרץ 2015 17:58, ‏"Rob" כתב: > Fantastic! Any idea if they will be recording book II of the Clavier as > well? > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Shlomi Fish > wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:39:52 +0200 >

[Wikimedia-l] Open Well-Tempered Clavier

Hi, Plenty of things like this happen in the Wikimedia world every day, but as a music lover I'm especially happy about this one: The Open Well-Tempered Clavier project was completed yesterday with the public domain release of all the music files, and it's already on Commons: https://commons.wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

I'd be the most vocal opponent of an encyclopedia *censored* for children. But I would be a very vocal proponent of an encyclopedia *adapted* for children. Not by dumbing it down and not by removing information that some cultures, religions or governments consider immoral or mature-audiences-only,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

is may be just geeky over-thinking. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-02-23 14:54 GMT+02:00 John Mark Vandenberg : > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrot

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

> > But since Milos asked: In Wikisource changing the original is indeed > > vandalism, but somebody must notice that it's vandalism. AFAIK Wikisource > > doesn't have a proper way to authenticate that the document is in its > > original form. > Could you elaborate on this? If you open the links

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Works which can't be freely licensed

> > But, my initial point was: Am I missing something? Would there be any > > reason why such grammar would have sense without ND clause? > Milos, > Could we not import these works onto Wikisource in original format, > where they would be preserved without permitting altering from the > original?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

Useful link, thank you! I know that article count is very far from perfect as a metric, of course. All of the things at that page are relevant and my question could be asked about any of them. בתאריך 26 בינו 2015 01:36, ‏"Federico Leva (Nemo)" כתב: > Amir E. Aharoni, 26/01/2015 0

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

ֲרוֹנִי > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > > ‪“We're living in pieces, > > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > > > 2015-01-25 17:57 GMT-08:00 Amir E. Aharoni >: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> It is well-known that the size of a Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

17:57 GMT-08:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > Hi, > > It is well-known that the size of a Wikipedia in a given language is not > proportional to the number of people who speak that language. By "size" I > mean the article count and the active editor count. > > This begs the ques

[Wikimedia-l] proportion of wiki size to what?

Hi, It is well-known that the size of a Wikipedia in a given language is not proportional to the number of people who speak that language. By "size" I mean the article count and the active editor count. This begs the question: Is it proportional to anything else? I can think of a bunch of possib

Re: [Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage

2014-12-10 11:54 GMT+02:00 WereSpielChequers : > I hope the test for a feature like this is whether a community has consensus for it to be deployed. > It is entirely possible that one person finds something useful even where the vast majority consider it does more harm than good. True. That's why

[Wikimedia-l] MoodBar usage

Hi, If I recall correctly, the development of the MoodBar extension was declared as discontinued, but I see that it is still being used by some wikis. If I'm reading the configuration[1] correctly, it's enable on the following projects: * French Wikisource ( http://fr.wikisource.org/ ) * Incubator

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "edited mercilessly"

pecially happy to hear opinions not just from the English Wikipedia. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-12-03 19:01 GMT+02:00 James Forrester : > On 3 December 2014 at 05:08,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "edited mercilessly"

thing more hard-core, like "it will be edited mercilessly". And I can't find anything like that in the Visual Editor. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-12-03 1

[Wikimedia-l] "edited mercilessly"

Hi, I have a vague recollection that when I started editing the English Wikipedia ten years ago, there was a notice near the Save button, which said something like this: "Your changes will be edited mercilessly". I remember similar notices in other languages as well, though even more vaguely. I

[Wikimedia-l] thank vs. like

In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a discussion about the "Thanks" feature, which raises the following confusion among other things: Why does the person who is sending the thank-you gets a message saying "$1 was notified that you liked his/her edit.", and the person who receives the thank-you notifica

[Wikimedia-l] new Math options: phrasing the preferences

As a follow-up to the discussions about the new Math rendering options, I'd like to raise the question of how to write the preferences in way that will really be helpful to the users. I made a little patch at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/167024/ It only fixes some minor things, and the prob

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor"

5 21:22 GMT+03:00 Martijn Hoekstra : > On Oct 25, 2014 8:03 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" > wrote: > > > > Perpetuating it with a dedicated IDE wouldn't help it go away. > > I doubt that. Side by side wikitext and result, making you see the result > of either in the o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor"

אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-10-25 21:44 GMT+03:00 Mark : > On 10/25/14, 7:20 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> Because, even though I'm well aware of the fact that lots of experienced >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor"

Perpetuating it with a dedicated IDE wouldn't help it go away. בתאריך 25 באוק 2014 20:51, "Martijn Hoekstra" כתב: > On Oct 25, 2014 7:20 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" > wrote: > > > > Because, even though I'm well aware of the fact that lots of experi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor"

possible become transparent to all editors. (This is not an official representation of the Wikimedia Foundation's opinion.) בתאריך 25 באוק 2014 19:40, "Martijn Hoekstra" כתב: > On Oct 25, 2014 6:17 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" > wrote: > > > > Thank goodness this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Wikipedia needs an IDE, not a WYSIWYG editor"

Thank goodness this wasn't written five years ago, otherwise somebody could get the awful idea to implement it. בתאריך 25 באוק 2014 18:26, "Kim Bruning" כתב: > I spotted this article linked from news.ycombinator.com, > arguing -well- what it says on the tin. ;-) > > Apologies if someone else alre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "media" vs "images", "videos", "songs" and "files"

ress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-10-22 17:42 GMT+03:00 sankarshan : > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > Every time I translate messages that have > > the word "media" in them, I think that

[Wikimedia-l] "media" vs "images", "videos", "songs" and "files"

In the user interface messages of MediaWiki and its extensions the word "media" is usually used to refer to images, videos, sounds and files. It is convenient, because they are handled similarly by the software. But it is also awful, because I'm quite sure that people don't talk to each other abou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

is way is on all wikis which import pages. > > Romaine > > > > 2014-10-04 15:09 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > > > Hi, > > > > I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some > > unusual things: > > * I have many more contributions there

[Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles

Hi, I looked at my contribution in the German Wikipedia[1] and noticed some unusual things: * I have many more contributions there than I thought I do. * I did some very strange edits, such as adding a category with an *English* name[2] "Why would I do such a thing?", I thought. Then I realized

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

Nitpick: If watchlist and notifications remain separated, it makes more sense to me to call the operation that adds something to watchlist "watch" rather than ''subscribe". בתאריך 17 בספט 2014 12:05, "Diego Moya" כתב: > On 16 September 2014 21:32, Danny Horn wrote: > > Diego, that is definitely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 16:18 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > I expect half of what would come up to be problems with Watchlist and > RecentChanges, applying to any namespace and only made worse by the > repeated attempt to take stuff out of them. Those are THE central > engines of any wiki and I've only see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

> > The alternative would be to set watchlist to show all changes and > > not just the last one, but then it would show one row per change or a group > > of rows per page, and that would make it even more cluttered. > That never looked cluttered to me. :) It did to me, and AFAIK, you and I started

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

2014-09-15 15:13 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > > Amir E. Aharoni, 15/09/2014 13:12: > > The English Wikipedia uses it for Articles for Deletion (AfD) and for a lot > > of other things. I tried to follow AfD for some time, and I had similar > > issues. > Iss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

> If the reason is so trivial (on it.wiki it's certainly more complex than > that), sounds like something that subpagination and/or RSS feeds can > solve I expected supagination to come up. The English Wikipedia uses it for Articles for Deletion (AfD) and for a lot of other things. I tried to fol

[Wikimedia-l] To Flow: on featured article discussions

My 2 agorot in the Flow or not Flow discussion: A prominent Hebrew Wikipedia user started a discussion about his impression that too few people participate in the discussions about nominating featured articles.[1] This Wikipedia has about 700 active and 150 very active editors[2]; the number of pa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-09-07 4:17 GMT+03:00 Risker : > I think the design of Flow is much like the liqueur-filled chocolates. > It's missed the point of a discussion space on Wikimedia projects. All the > use cases in the world, no matter how carefully researched and accounted > for, will help you build a discussio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data

Can we join more Wikipedias to the comparison? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-08-19 10:38 GMT+03:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Amir has created functionality that compares da

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Translation tool's problem

Not all parts of the page were prepared for translation. For example, the "Increasing the quantity, quality, diversity, and reach of free knowledge" part is in the {{Grants:Start/Header}} template, which isn't translated. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey

Good points, Lane. Such things were possibly discussed before, but it's the first time that I see it it spelled out like this. This approach should be advertised a bit somehow, so that the researchers know how to do it ethically and for everybody's benefit, and so that the experienced Wikipedians

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

It's nice technically, but the fact that it's necessary is tragic. The "Evacuation" title is very apt. North Korea, Iran, Russia, Brazil and other countries are talking about creating their own internets. It's a shame that the Wikimedia community does essentially the same thing - dividing humanity

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing WMIL's Community Coordinator

Welcome! [ FYI: And the "ch" in "Chen" is pronounced as in "Bach" and "Loch", not as in "Chess". :) ] -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-04-24 15:46 GMT+03:00 Michal Lester : >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

Unicode support is not that big of a deal. It's growing all the time, and the Unicode standard itself is ahead of Wikipedia and will likely remain ahead of it for a while. The operating systems' actual support for it is far from perfect, but it isn't a huge in itself either. Existence of written w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

14 at 1:30 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > > This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia > > alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by > the > > cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages needs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

quot;All people who speak Y also read X, so there's no purpose putting > resources into Y". > > Wikimedia UK does little work with Gaelic, but quite a bit with Welsh; I > wonder if Robin Owain reads this list? He's a good person to speak to about > this. > > Chri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

This is not quite correct. It's very hard, but possible. But Wikimedia alone cannot do it. Wikimedia can be one of the tools that are used by the cultural elite, which Milos brought up. Each of these languages needs people like [[Pompeu Fabra]] and [[Vuk Stefanović Karadžić]] and, dare I say, [[Eli

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 6:46 GMT+03:00 Milos Rancic : > There is the question: Why should we do that? The answer is clear to > me: Because we can. You'll be hard-pressed to find a lot of people who support the general idea more than I do, but precisely because of that I believe that we must be optimistic-but-r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the attention. בתאריך 20 באפר 2014 02:17, מאת "Gryllida" : > On a second thought, do we want to add an optional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] I'm back

> Andy, Serbian beer is like English wine: it exists, it's consisted of > ethanol -- among the other things --, you can drink it without serious > consequences to your health, but it's not for hoarding :P Rakija is > the right Serbian product. Do you remember drinking it in Pristina? Or > not? :P

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ELWP reaches 100000 articles

Callooh! Callay! Congratulations to the language that gave so many other languages[1] the word "Encyclopedia". [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5292#sitelinks-wikipedia -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in

[Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Something positive... I just wanted to express my sincere thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata. Many of them happen to be my colleagues, but I thank them here as a Wikimedian who frequently does editing workshops. I did a workshop today, and I was really happy to have the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 1 week reminder: Wikimania 2014 – Call for Submissions

I agree with Marc. I edited the brochure for Wikimania 2011 and I spent a lot of time making the abstracts *shorter*. Unless somebody plans to publish a Wikimania proceedings book of at least a 100 pages, the abstracts should be *no more* than 200 words or so. When it is *no less* than 300 words,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org - done

Thank you. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-03-09 11:14 GMT+02:00 matanya : > > > I have fixed it per Amir's comment. It makes sense, and we should use > this note on every wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org

11:02 GMT+02:00 Bohdan Melnychuk : > Oppose. Those who don't know what's "wiki" shall wikipedia it :) --Base > > 09.03.2014 10:50, Amir E. Aharoni написав(ла): > >> Hallo, >> >> A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: "T

[Wikimedia-l] the big red notice on the top of http://strategy.wikimedia.org

Hallo, A big red notice at the top of strategy.wikimedia.org says: "This wiki has been closed per community discussion." I understand what it means: that that wiki site finished serving its purpose and became read-only. That is fine. However, some pages on it are still useful for reference, for e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

Big sigh. According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991. http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/ You can express condolences here: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

I visited Ukraine twice. The first time was when I was five years old, mostly in the country side and in some magical historic towns like Chernihiv, Nizhyn and Kozelets. I also spent one day in Kyiv, which left me very strong and fond memories of open blue skies, tasty ice cream, and lovely city sq

Re: [Wikimedia-l] This weird trick will make readers of mass messages on village pumps happier

[OMG, I actually wrote quite a lot of that page.] -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014/1/17 Federico Leva (Nemo) > This is already in the guidelines:

[Wikimedia-l] This weird trick will make readers of mass messages on village pumps happier

Got your attention? :) Various mass messages are occasionally sent to village pumps in many projects - by the Foundation's community liaisons, by researchers, and others. Sometimes people bother to put them up for translation, which is wonderful, but sometimes it is not practical, for example if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visually impaired

ULS is short for the Universal Language Selector extension. This tool provides language selection, webfonts and keyboard layouts for different languages. It appears if you click the gear icon near the interlanguage links. Among other things, it provides the OpenDyslexic font for some languages writ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

ore‬ 2014/1/8 Yaroslav M. Blanter > On 08.01.2014 15:22, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there any plan to allow using the "Thanks" feature to thank anonymous >> Wikimedia users? >> >> A Hebrew Wikipedia user asked me about this, sayi

[Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

Hi, Is there any plan to allow using the "Thanks" feature to thank anonymous Wikimedia users? A Hebrew Wikipedia user asked me about this, saying that it may be even more useful to thank anons than logged-in users. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Readers still love you

Good to know that at least somebody sees it positively. I do it with my family all the time and they call me a spoilsport. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014/1/4 Federico Leva (N

[Wikimedia-l] The Old Wikipedia logo is still widely used - what can we do?

Hallo. The old version of the "puzzle globe" Wikipedia logo was retired in 2010. It had wrongly painted letters in several languages as well as some graphical imperfections. The current logo has correct letters and improved vector graphics quality. Despite the replacement having taken place almos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Stack Exchange vs. Wikimedia

I participate in StackOverflow - asking, answering, voting, editing existing answers. Voting is probably good for a site that is structured around short answers and short questions. I'm not sure that it would work for Wikipedia, where articles are expected to grow to multiple pages over a long tim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] git.wikimedia.org dead due to wikimania ; )

2013/8/14 Tim Starling : > On 14/08/13 07:40, Oliver Keyes wrote: >> We have weekend support - for core services, which constitute our MediaWiki >> instances. Git, however, is not a core service - as Max accurately notes, >> while it makes development finicky and frustrating, > > I didn't know anyo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013/7/31 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) : > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: >> Quality like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One thing that I learned >> today is that the Visual Editor will have functionality that only the more >> accomplished editors will enter directly or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013/7/23 Tom Morris : > Should that even be a concern? I mean, if lots of newbies and technophobes > start using the Visual Editor and a bunch of us dorks who love writing markup > don't, would that matter? I saw the following more than once on editing workshops and similar events: An experienc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM

2013/6/9 Fred Bauder > > All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there would > be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter. How about private messages from Special:EmailUser? Just asking. I haven't studied the subject of PRISM much yet. -- Amir Elish

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks for all the fish!

2013/6/7 Milos Rancic > > I am leaving the movement. I thought to leave it quietly, with just a > bit more than a few words to stewards and Wikimedia Serbia, but after > the first question why I am leaving, I realized that I actually owe to > many of you the explanation for leaving the movement af

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