Re: [Wikimedia-l] ED response to the recommendations by the FDC Advisory Group on the APG program

2014-11-02 Thread Pine W
Hi Mike, would you like to post your questions on the talk page? A collection of questions and comments are accumulating there. I would encourage my fellow community budgeteers and strategists to comment also. Pine (speaking only in my personal capacity) __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2014-11-04 Thread Pine W
Hi all, As you may have heard, I've started temporary contract work for WMF as an intern in Learning and Evaluation. [1] My work will focus on the Learning Patterns Library. [2] One of the goals for the internship is to enable easier and better reporting about grants, including financial reports.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update regarding WMF's reporting practices

2014-11-06 Thread Pine W
Hi Erik, Many factors of this redesign of reporting make sense to me. However I'd like to ask that some useful info from the monthly reports continue on a monthly basis if possible because their timeliness is valuable. Here are some topics that come to my mind for a possible lighter-weight monthly

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia stewards and "What the weirdest, wildest, most successful participatory project in history tells us about working together"

2014-11-06 Thread Pine W
I've had a number of discussions with our stewards over the years. Many of them are dedicated, polite, clever, and highly sophisticated in the ways of the Wiki. They get no pay and little glory for their delicate work, and we often take their availability for granted. The title of this article [1],

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Honorary degree for Wikipedia

2014-11-17 Thread Pine W
Thanks for this news. I'm forwarding this email by bcc to a Dutch Wikimedian in the hope that they can forward this to the Dutch community. Pine Pine *This is an Encyclopedia* *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of our past, i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Honorary degree for Wikipedia

2014-11-17 Thread Pine W
wrote: > Hi Pine, > > I do a lot of communications as ambassador for the Dutch community. I > posted it already in the Dutch central discussion page and to the Dutch > Wikimedia mailinglist. > > Greetings, > Romaine > > 2014-11-17 23:52 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] WikiCheese crowdfunding - Let's photograph 'em all

2014-11-28 Thread Pine W
Maybe I missed something. Is Switzerland's chapter closing? Pine On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Charles Andrès < charles.andres.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > Forget about Scotland and Belgium, > > We have all you need in Switzerland, come before we close the chapter! > > > > https://commons.wikim

[Wikimedia-l] Twas the night before Christmas on Wikimedia

2014-12-24 Thread Pine W
* Twas the night before Christmas on Wikimedia * (Variation on "A Visit from St. Nicholas", written in the year 1823 by Clement Clarke Moore) 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all thro' the wikis, Not a creature was stirring, not even a bot; The stockings were hung by the talk pages with care

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] (Cross-post) METRO Wikipedia webcast on Reference and Citation today 1/12 at 2-3:15pm EST

2015-01-12 Thread Pine W
Forwarding in case anyone wants to tune in to this event live. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Elias Friedman" Date: Jan 12, 2015 9:51 AM Subject: [WikiEN-l] (Cross-post) METRO Wikipedia webcast on Reference and Citation today 1/12 at 2-3:15pm EST To: "English Wikipedia" , "Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia France] Creation of a scientific committee

2015-01-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Christophe, Thanks for this information. It took me a few minutes to figure out what the American equivalent to this committee is; at first I thought this announcement was about a research committee. I think our equivalent is what we would call an advisory board. Please see https://en.wikipedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A "Listen" Button

2015-01-24 Thread Pine W
Hi James, Thanks for this suggestion. May I suggest that you post this idea in IdeaLab? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab Siko, cc'd here, might be able to help advise about possible development of this proposal. Thanks, Pine On Jan 24, 2015 2:21 PM, "James Heilman" wrote: > Whil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Education Extension

2015-02-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Anna, In the long run I think it would be beneficial to move at least some of the content of Outreach into LPL where it would be easier to search. Perhaps you can enlighten me about the purpose of keeping Outreach separate from Meta. I think the idea is that Outreach is easier to navigate for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] statistics of usage of wikimedia project per language used in the interface

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
I think that aggregated geodata like this might be available. I am adding Analytics to this email thread. Pine On Feb 5, 2015 8:37 AM, "Romaine Wiki" wrote: > For Belgium I would like to know something different. Belgium doesn't have > a primary language, but have Dutch, French, German and Engli

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Education Extension

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
Education Program > Wikimedia Foundation > +1.415.839.6885 x6729 > ako...@wikimedia.org > education.wikimedia.org > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Anna, > > > > In the long run I think it would be beneficial to move at least some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Record for edit-a-thon production?

2015-02-05 Thread Pine W
Just noting here that I'm looking forward to seeing the results from this year's program evaluation reporting, since this information will be useful for setting goals for projects and campaigns. Cheers, Pine *This is an Encyclopedia* *One gateway to the wide ga

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos

2015-02-10 Thread Pine W
Hi, Can we get an update on the transition plan to 4.0? I am seeing increasing amounts of content with 4.0 licensing across the the web, and would like us to move sooner rather than later to 4.0 in order to maintain continuity with new content where possible. I am not a licensing expert and I som

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Crossroads of five journeys

2015-02-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Milos, We have had discussions in Cascadia Wikimedia User Group about possible outreach to Native American tribes regarding language and culture. There are endangered Native American languages, and Wikimedia projects seem well position to assist with language preservation. I hope that the Wikti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Love on the wikis

2015-02-13 Thread Pine W
Thanks Fabrice. I would be interested in an office hour about social media strategy in general. Do you think that an office hour could be arranged? The office hour discussion could inform future curations, as well as editor engagement and reader engagement efforts. Thanks! Pine On Feb 13, 2015 9

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos

2015-02-13 Thread Pine W
Good questions. Their Board of Directors page contains long outdated information, the last Form 990 posted on their website is from tax year 2012 (!) suggests at first glance that they had some big financial problems that year, and the most recent audit that they posted is also for tax year 2012.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call to Action

2015-02-13 Thread Pine W
Just following up on this: when will the mid-year WMF financials be published with Annual Plan alignment/divergance info? This info is relevant for 2015-2016 planning, and to some extent, the strategy update. Thanks. (: Pine On Oct 9, 2014 12:18 PM, "Pine W" wrote: > Thank you L

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos

2015-02-15 Thread Pine W
It appears to me from my surface-level review that there are some long-term finance and governance troubles at the main CC org. Now seems like a good time for WMF and other relevant orgs to develop a contingency plan in case the main CC org continues to have problems or ceases to be functional. I h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cc-by-sa 4.0, Wikimedia logos

2015-02-15 Thread Pine W
Kat, Thanks for the comments. You say that CC "has its struggles but this is not something I currently see as a major concern". Would you be able to encourage CC to post more recent 990s and audits so that others can evaluate for ourselves? If CC published a rehabilitation plan, that would be help

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Accounting software for thematic orgs

2015-02-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Treasurers and other finance people, I realize that we had this discussion some months ago about accounting software. I just wanted to follow up by letting you know that Cascadia decided to go with Xero as we start. Your advice was helpful and I greatly appreciate it. I hope to meet many of yo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: A new structure for WMF Community Engagement

2015-02-19 Thread Pine W
Anasuya, I will miss you. You did fabulous work for WMF and I hope that we will continue to have the benefit of your wisdom. Siko, I knew that you'd get promoted someday (: Question: who will directly run IEG? They will have big shoes to fill. Luis, congrats on the new role. Pine Pine *This is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Types of allowed projects for grant funding (renamed)

2015-02-21 Thread Pine W
is a good time to rethink the categorical prohibitions and replace at least some of them with appropriate expectations for impact that would better serve our overall mission of creating and sharing knowledge. Pine On Feb 21, 2015 12:05 PM, "Brian Wolff" wrote: > On 2/21/15, Pine W w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Types of allowed projects for grant funding (renamed)

2015-02-22 Thread Pine W
Hi Luis, Thank you for agreeing to consider grant funding for software projects. It sounds like you also plan a broader review of funding for community needs and growth. I have a list of requests for changes, which boil down to removing policy barriers and greatly improving communications and wor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New ED of Wikimedia Norway

2015-02-23 Thread Pine W
Thank you for the announcement, Erlend. Congratulations, Astrid. I hope that we can connect at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin. Pine (Executive Director for Cascadia Wikimedians User Group) On Feb 23, 2015 12:28 AM, "Erlend Bjørtvedt" wrote: > Dear friends in the Wikimedia movement, > > With

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the Wikimedia strategy consultation

2015-02-24 Thread Pine W
I largely agree with Risker. I was not involved in the last consultation. I'm taking a wait and see approach with this one. My hard-earned experience on this mailing list is that an approach of problem solving rather than stone throwing tends to get more cooperation and better results. I still ge

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Hackathon travel sponsorship

2015-02-25 Thread Pine W
Quim, Thanks for bringing this up. The subject of non-developers attending hackathons came up in at least one recent off-list conversation. I think it would be interesting to have a sampling of experienced Wikimedians present who may not be developers but who are expert end-users of MediaWiki. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-03-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Finance Fellows, The timeline for your work says that your draft report should be finished. May we look at it? I am very curious about your findings. Thanks (: Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-03-01 Thread Pine W
yself and I hope that WMF takes its commitments seriously too. The report of the Finance Fellows will inform some of my thinking about Cascadia's budget and it would be helpful to have the draft published early this week. Thank you, Pine On Mar 1, 2015 5:38 PM, "Keegan Peterzell" wrote

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-03-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Lene, OK, thanks for the update. As you can tell, I am very interested in your work. I am sensitized to anything having to do with Meta-type documentation and deadlines at the moment, seeing as I am juggling so many of them with intricate dependencies (including weekend projects), but I suppos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia

2015-03-04 Thread Pine W
Pinging Analytics to ask about editor longevity data (: My understanding is that newbies (<= 10 edits) are more likely to disappear early in their "careers" than they were 5 years ago, but that editors that have been active for years are likely to remain active for years. It would be interesting,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Veteran Malayalam Wikipedian BabuG signed off...

2015-03-05 Thread Pine W
Viswa, Thank you so much for letting us know of this editor's inspiring story. We are sorry to lose such an exemplary Wikimedian. I hope in his passing he had the satisfaction of feeling that in his late years he made the world a better place. Please contact me off-list if you would like this ema

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 25M files on Commons

2015-03-12 Thread Pine W
Excellent. I think that the Commons 25 million files milestone calls for a post in the Wikimedia Blog and/or the Signpost. Pine On Mar 12, 2015 12:47 AM, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" wrote: > Dear all, > > I am not sure why it so far got little publicity, but yesterday the 25 > millionth file was uploa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
I'm generally supportive of this legal action, but I am troubled by this statement: "I trust our legal team to make decisions about what legal actions to participate in." In general I think highly of Michelle, but this statement fits a long-running pattern I percieve in WMF governance of the boar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
VE as much as it > does anything else. If you think the WMF needs a more activist board - > which seems to mean "a board that makes individual, specific product > decisions and assumes legal expertise", I encourage you to run in the > next election and we'll see what the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
Pardon the mobile device mistype. A *move* toward more openness. Pine On Mar 13, 2015 12:49 PM, "Pine W" wrote: > Oliver, > > I have thought about running more than once (: > > Perhaps I am reading more into that comment than was intended. > > James, > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
Excellent, thank you Keegan and all who have worked on this. Pine On Mar 13, 2015 1:07 PM, "Keegan Peterzell" wrote: > Hi all, > > Single-user login[1] finalization will be taking place next month.[2] I > know this has been said before over the past two years, but it is actually > going to take

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
oved from "the board doesn't ask hard enough questions!" > to "the board doesn't tell us enough"? Those are distinct concerns. If > you have them, I'd suggest spinning off a thread so we can keep this > one to what it's meant to be discussing. >

[Wikimedia-l] Board transparency (thread fork)

2015-03-13 Thread Pine W
rested in participating, and it might be possible to arrange remote participation as well via live IRC interactions similar to what is done for WMF metrics meetings. Thank you very much, Pine On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Pine W wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board transparency (thread fork)

2015-03-16 Thread Pine W
I personally am more interested in transparency in general as a matter of principle and as a matter of setting a good example from the top. Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SUL finalization update (no, for real this time)

2015-03-17 Thread Pine W
Hi Keegan, Just a thought: you could invite WMFers to have SUL finalization parties during a few lunch hours. Invite people out of their silos to work with you and interact with the community to answer account-owner FAQs, translate the Q&A, and interact with WMF's "customers". While this is a litt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing interim COO

2015-03-18 Thread Pine W
Welcome Terry. Will we have a chance to meet you at the Wikimedia Conference? Is the COO role temporary for the duration of the strategy review or does interim mean indefinite pending a more expansive search for a permanent COO? Gayle, thanks for your resilience in the HR role. Good luck! Thanks,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Kourosh Karimkhany, Vice President of Strategic Partnerships

2015-03-27 Thread Pine W
Welcome Kourosh. (: Can you give us some examples of partnerships that you will be developing or supporting? It would also be really interesting to hear how your role relates to the kinds of institutional relationships that other departments have formed over the years. I'd love to hear an overvie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Not all pixels are created equals: introducing brand new Wikimedia France's metrics

2015-04-01 Thread Pine W
Dear Pierre-Selim, I look forward to discussing this new metric at the Wikimedia Conference. I might even take photographs of the deliberations and upload them to Commons in order to improve my personal pixel metric. Have you figured out a way to translate pixels into multiple languages? I hope

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [US media] Wikimedia on US television program 60 Minutes tonight

2015-04-05 Thread Pine W
Excellent, thanks Katherine. I'll check the 60 Minutes segment to see if they have ideas that I can reuse for the video productions that some of us are working on this year. It sounds like their intended audience is different, more aimed at educating readers than educating potential editors or rese

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [US media] Wikimedia on US television program 60 Minutes tonight

2015-04-06 Thread Pine W
Very nice piece, if a little hazy on details. Katherine, how would you suggest that we thank _60 Minutes_? We can tweet to them, although there may be better ways. Cheers, Pine On Apr 5, 2015 11:30 AM, "Pine W" wrote: > Excellent, thanks Katherine. I'll check the 60 Minutes

[Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-07 Thread Pine W
Hi Garfield, I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians have noted the expensiveness of the San Francisco area including its high cost of living for staff, employer competition for engineering talent, and associated high salaries for WMF employees. I see on http://upload.wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-07 Thread Pine W
Postscript (sorry): this isn't a time-sensitive question, so please respond at your convenience. Thanks (: Pine On Apr 7, 2015 9:58 PM, "Pine W" wrote: > Hi Garfield, > > I'm asking this on Wikimedia-l because a number of Wikimedians have noted > the expensi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Ask questions, give feedback on six annual plan grant proposals for the FDC!

2015-04-07 Thread Pine W
Just noting that annual plans can go through APG or PEG, but the qualificattions and scope are different. Some chapers choose to continue with PEG funding becuase it is more flexible. The main limiter on PEG funding is that it will not pay for full time permanent staff; however according to Meta i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Ask questions, give feedback on six annual plan grant proposals for the FDC!

2015-04-07 Thread Pine W
dividual grantees in mind; and to think about transition points among grant types. I would love to talk with you more about this at the Wikimedia Conference if possible (: Pine On Apr 7, 2015 11:20 PM, "Luis Villa" wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Pine W wrote: > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-08 Thread Pine W
ou wish. Finance for example don't travel > anywhere except the top management (1-2 ppl), so they can be in East St > Louis :) > > My British company where I work has its finance in the Czech Republic, and > its IT support in India for instance. > > Balazs >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

2015-04-09 Thread Pine W
renew our > lease or move. The advantages of having good access to talented people and > organizations WMF interacts with far outweigh any advantages to moving to a > lower cost location outside of the San Francisco market area. > > Regards, > > Garfield > > On Tue, Apr 7

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access to Private Information Policy: How Long Will This Be Left a Question Mark?

2015-04-12 Thread Pine W
Trilium, My understanding is that the new policy is now active, meaning that identification documents are not required for checkusers and oversighters. I believe that identification documents are still required for WMF Board, FDC, Board Elections Committee, and Board Audit Committee appointments.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

2015-04-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Erik, best wishes on your new journey. Two things I am grateful to you for are the development of VisualEditor into a very viable product, and the support of HHVM implementation. Lila, will all of Product and Engineering now report to Damon or are there plans to recruit a replacement for Erik?

[Wikimedia-l] Editing Wikipedia for school community service hours

2015-04-13 Thread Pine W
Hi all, Many schools in the United States encourage or require students to perform community service hours, such as by cleaning up parks, caring for the disabled, or tutoring younger students. Sometimes more specialized requirements apply, such as university schools of education or health which ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A transition and a new chapter.

2015-04-13 Thread Pine W
Editing-wise, I think that's right. We also have Damon and Luis who I believe have considerable open source credentials outside of Wikimedia. Also, at the director level, I like and respect Siko who has extensive experience coordinating Wikimedia community-facing projects. We also hope that the c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to find the Wikimedia Commons Android App form Google Play? (Mohammed BAchounda)

2015-04-16 Thread Pine W
In defense of Yuvi, he is routinely extinguishing metaphorical fires and hunting gremlins in Tool Labs. He may just be overtasked at the moment. I suggest that you email him a reminder. Pine On Apr 16, 2015 3:44 AM, "Aleksey Bilogur" wrote: > Hmm. I was annoyed at Yuvi a couple of weeks ago beca

[Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia community health: strategic opportunities and threats

2015-04-18 Thread Pine W
Hi all, Since WMF is doing a strategy update (with which I'm not involved, but hope that the community can influence), I'm wondering what others thoughts are on Wikipedia's strategic opportunities and threats. I ask about this issue with the following two pieces of info as background. 1. The *Sig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections

2015-04-22 Thread Pine W
Personally, I'm less concerned about staff votes than I am about having only a relatively small number of community members vote. If there is a substantial turnout of community votes then the enfranchisement of staff is a non-issue. I think there would be more cause for concern if is only 1800 tota

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2015-04-23 Thread Pine W
Hi Pete, Philippe is on vacation, so I'm forwarding this to Rachel. Pine On Apr 22, 2015 11:59 PM, "Pete Forsyth" wrote: > Philippe, can you address what you were talking about here last fall -- was > the draft feature, and the way it directed new contributors toward the > Articles for Creation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2015-04-23 Thread Pine W
t; Community Advocacy > > Wikimedia Foundation > > (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > > > Hi Pete, > > > > > > Philippe is on vacation, so I'm forwarding this to Rachel. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2015-04-24 Thread Pine W
sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not know.* *—Catherine Munro* On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > Philippe is on vacation, so I'm forwarding this to Rachel. > > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Google rankings and mobile phone support`

2015-04-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Gerard, Yes, I saw this news as well. Check out these results: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=www.wikipedia.org https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=en.wikipedia.org https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=commons.wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Inspire Campaign Grantees

2015-05-01 Thread Pine W
Hi Liam, I too am happy with many aspects of Aspire. However, the campaign scheduling and communications issues caused major headaches here in Cascadia, and was disruptive in other ways that I'd rather not document in a public list. The Community Resources and L&E teams are aware of the specifics

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Inspire Campaign Grantees

2015-05-02 Thread Pine W
Hi Micru, My understanding is that the thinking at WMF is that, if this campaign is successful, they may repeat Inspire with a different focus, perhaps global south, underrepresented languages, public health, or education programs. It could be very beneficial to involve affiliates in some of thes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] userscript for authorship coloring

2015-05-04 Thread Pine W
Thanks Fabian. I'm forwarding this thread to Wikimedia-l, because I think that this tool will be of interest to many Wikipedians. Pine *This is an Encyclopedia* *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of our past, in which we must

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Pine W
Hi, I wasn't involved in this evaluation, but I would like to say that, as someone who recently worked for WMF Learning and Evaluation, I believe that the L&E team is interested in producing useful and accurate reports. So, I am optimistic that feedback from the community about methodology and com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF April 2015 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, May 7, 18:00 UTC

2015-05-08 Thread Pine W
Hi, just some brief feedback on the meeting: * I liked the format. * Regarding the WMF quarterly performance single-page overview, I think that is a good basic idea and could use further development. WMF might find it helpful to consult with Wikimedia France which I hear does good self-evaluation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness research for Wikimedia organizations

2015-05-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Winifred, Thanks for this info. It looks to me like the information in the Learning Center could be integrated into the more Learning Patterns Library with the category "Organizational effectiveness". Is this integration planned, or are there reasons to keep the Learning Center separate from th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness research for Wikimedia organizations

2015-05-11 Thread Pine W
ions at the upcoming meetings in Berlin first to find out if the > learning center is even a useful idea at all and how we may want to improve > it moving forward before anyone invests a lot more time in curation up > front. What do you think? > > Cheers, > > Winifred > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland - Fundraising Report

2015-05-11 Thread Pine W
Hi Till, thanks very much. Would you please document these good fundraising practices in the Learning Patterns Library? Pine On May 11, 2015 2:12 AM, "Till Mletzko" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We just released our new WMDE fundraising report. See the detailed > report here: > https://meta.wikimedi

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wmcon15] What happened at pre-conference sessions?

2015-05-21 Thread Pine W
Forwarding the email below with permission. Program leaders might want to look at the "further resources" sections in particular, on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/News/Pre-conference_workshop_day_for_Wikimedia_Conference . Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Ma

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a "we" in the wikimedia movement

2015-05-23 Thread Pine W
His MZMcBride, I agree with Micru on a number of points, particularly that it would be helpful to think of Wikimedia as a social movement, with all of the diversity and methods of interaction among ourselves making us a very complex social environment. I'm in the process of writing a piece for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Garfield, Thanks for this update. * Is this intended to be the last annual plan, as WMF shifts to a quarterly planning cycle? If so, how will Fundraising know how much money to raise each quarter/year? * Are SMART goals documented for each department? If so, where can we see them? * I see th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-26 Thread Pine W
Pine On May 26, 2015 7:46 PM, "Garfield Byrd" wrote: > Hi Pine, > > I have answered your questions in the text of your email. > > Regards, > > Garfield > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Garfield, > > > > Thanks f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group

2015-05-27 Thread Pine W
Welcome to the US affiliates, North Carolina Triangle. (: If you have not already done so, please join the Wikimedians Active in Local Regions of the United States (affectionately known as WALRUS) mailing list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l I would like to talk wit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Pine W
It does make sense to me that there would be at least a month between publication of the full draft plan, including the documentation that requested, and the closure of the comment period. In its current form the plan is too vague for me to support it as written. I think that the WMF audit commit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-30 Thread Pine W
Whichever body is chosen though, a longer feedback/comment period is > necessary. > > best, > > dj > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > It does make sense to me that there would be at least a month between > > publication of the full draf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-30 Thread Pine W
Perhaps in July we can have an office hour to discuss improvements to annual planning for all orgs including WMF? Annual plans for any organization are a pain to develop and involve some guesswork about what will happen during the year. However, given the natures of annual fundraising and grant cy

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-31 Thread Pine W
Hi Sam, That all sounds good. A couple of quick points: 1. What is meant by "excellent goals and plans" is open to interpretation and dependent on context. For example, an "excellent" annual plan for a new user group will look much different than an "excellent" annual plan for WMFR or WMF, and I'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-06-01 Thread Pine W
> > Since Wikimania is in July this year, perhaps we could do this there: > public review & discussion of the WMF plan, and using that as a point of > departure to continue the discussion of planning from WMCON. > > Sam > I would suggest not using this WMF proposed plan as a starting point for tal

[Wikimedia-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-02 Thread Pine W
Speaking of specialized lists, I'd like to suggest that this discussion would be well suited to Research-l, where many people who are interested in these kinds of questions read and write about them more frequently than they do on Wikimedia-l. I'm boldly adding that list to the recipients for this

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-02 Thread Pine W
Forwarding because of the significance of the change for bots. My understanding is that this affects all wikis, so please get this information out to relevant bot operators on all wikis. Translated messages may be very much appreciated. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Brad Jors

Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

2015-06-03 Thread Pine W
Yes, I think that a disclosure up front would be appropriate, perhaps when someone first access the SecurePoll interface. By the way, my understanding is that the practice of generating a public list of voters who cast ballots, while keeping the nature of their votes private, is relatively common

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 10th year founding anniversary of Bengali Wikipedia

2015-06-04 Thread Pine W
Thanks very much for this announcement, Hasive. I'd like to take a moment to refresh our collective memory from June of last year. The Wikimedians who organized the Wikimedia Bangladesh Foundation made extraordinary efforts to found their chapter, and the chapter's approval under the Societies Reg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] English Wikipedia uses Wikidata for person data

2015-06-04 Thread Pine W
Sounds like a reasonable idea to me. Another open source advocate in Seattle has encouraged cooperation between Wikipedia and DBpedia. What would it take to make Gerard's suggestion come to life? Pine On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > An argument rages about the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki-research-l] Community health (retitled thread)

2015-06-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Luis, Aaron and all, Here's a list of possible metrics that we could use for measuring community health. Introductory notes: * I emphasized the number of unique contributors rather than number of contributions. * All of these metrics can be calculated over a variety of time-frames, although I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

2015-06-06 Thread Pine W
I felt that this year's elections went remarkably smoothly. I believe that we have the Elections Committee and its tireless leader Varnet, project manager James Alexander, and the SecurePoll devs to thank. There were a few technical issues but overall I feel that everyone did a very fine job. Pine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Pine W
I'm happy with S/N/O and with the election winners, but concerned about the diversity of the Board. I wonder if rethinking the entire board structure is in order, for example we could have: 1. One seat per continent, elected by the whole voting community 2. Two affiliate seats chosen by all affili

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-07 Thread Pine W
Regarding contents / geographic vs. cultural areas: I think either would make sense. One way of looking at cultural areas would be the ways that the affiliates spontaneously organized ourselves at WMCON, possibly with a few additions. Regarding differing population sizes: yes, but there will be im

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-06-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Michael, Thanks for this report. I was hoping to see information in the report about the financial costs of applying for and reporting about WMF grants; even better would be an estimate of time spent including volunteer hours, including FDC and GAC volunteer and staff hours. These costs are am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-06-08 Thread Pine W
I agree. I don't think WMF has an appreciation of the scope of this problem and how it detracts from the prigrammatic activities that they aim to support in addition to its effects on volunteer morale and motivation (which is a WMF global metric). I am hoping that some hard numbers might get them t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-06-09 Thread Pine W
results have > been published but there might be some (rough) data available on this. > > Claudia > > Am 08.06.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Pine W: > >> I agree. I don't think WMF has an appreciation of the scope of this >> problem >> and how it detracts from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Finance Fellows to develop first-ever movement-wide financial report and metrics

2015-06-11 Thread Pine W
nd this report useful. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:10

[Wikimedia-l] Mark your calendars for Wiknic 2015

2015-06-11 Thread Pine W
Hi all, Wiknic is Wikipedia's annual community picnic. For those of us who are in parts of the world where the current season is summer, we usually celebrate Wiknic in June or July. Wiknic started in the United States, and I'm told that the idea has spread to other countries with diverse languages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mexican case law on Wikipedia reliability

2015-06-17 Thread Pine W
To the best of my knowledge, the US Supreme Court has yet to cite Wikipedia, but US Federal appeals courts have done so. Also, a state supreme court cited Wikipedia prominently in a decision about insurance coverage: http://abbottlawfirm.com/blog/2012/08/16/utah-supreme-court-cites-wikipedia-in-pub

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CAPTCHA issues discouraging new editors

2015-06-18 Thread Pine W
You might want check if there is already a bug listed for this under https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-extensions-confirmedit-(captcha-extension)/, and if not then create a new one. (: Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thousands of images on Wikipedia and Commons in danger, action needed

2015-06-21 Thread Pine W
Are WMF and the European affiliates allowed to lobby regarding this issue? If so, what are they doing? Thanks, Pine On Jun 21, 2015 6:03 AM, "Romaine Wiki" wrote: > Hi all, > > This concerns all the editors and readers in the European Union and those > in other European countries as well (copyi

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