Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-15 Thread Max Binder
Nice work, Maggie. That was a heck of a fill-in. Welcome, Valerie! :-D On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:19 PM camelia boban wrote: > Congratulations both and welcome Valerie. Wish you a wonderful work with > the Wikimedians community. > > Camelia, > on behalf of WikiDonne UG and AffCom > > On Tue,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-15 Thread Isaac Olatunde
Congratulations to Valerie and of course many thanks to Maggie for all the good work. Regards, Isaac On Dec 11, 2018 8:32 PM, "Philippe Beaudette" wrote: > Sounds like an amazing fit for the Wmf. Congrats to you all, and Maggie... > Take a break now. Good job. > > Philippe > > On Tue, Dec 11,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-15 Thread Kate Zimmerman
Welcome, Valerie! I'm thrilled you're joining us and looking forward to working with & learning from you! Warm regards, Kate -- Kate Zimmerman (she/they) Head of Product Analytics Wikimedia Foundation On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:32 AM Katherine Maher wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just over a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread Eileen Hershenov
Dear Maggie, Your talent, commitment, creativity, unflagging energy and love of all things Wikimedia, combined with your incredible sense of justice (and sense of humor!) made you one of my north starts while working at WMF. I have seldom had the chance to work with someone I so like and admire.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Superb. Thank you Katherine, Maggie + all; and a warm welcome, Valerie! :) MS: and ID: remain excellent areas for language outreach; we're privileged to have a strong community network there. SJ On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 4:19 PM camelia boban wrote: > Congratulations both and welcome Valerie.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread camelia boban
Congratulations both and welcome Valerie. Wish you a wonderful work with the Wikimedians community. Camelia, on behalf of WikiDonne UG and AffCom On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 8:32 PM Philippe Beaudette Sounds like an amazing fit for the Wmf. Congrats to you all, and Maggie... > Take a break now. Good

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Sounds like an amazing fit for the Wmf. Congrats to you all, and Maggie... Take a break now. Good job. Philippe On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 10:36 AM Maggie Dennis Hello, all. > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM Katherine Maher > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Just over a month ago, we let you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hello, all. On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 1:32 PM Katherine Maher wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just over a month ago, we let you know that we had the reached the final > stages of our search for a new Chief of Community Engagement.[1] Today, I > am thrilled to let you know that we have appointed Valerie

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Wikimedia's new Chief of Community Engagement

2018-12-11 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi everyone, Just over a month ago, we let you know that we had the reached the final stages of our search for a new Chief of Community Engagement.[1] Today, I am thrilled to let you know that we have appointed Valerie D’Costa to the role. Born and raised a citizen of Singapore, Valerie speaks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Statement Opposing the EU Copyright Package

2018-06-29 Thread Eileen Hershenov
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, I want to thank our governing board for its strong and unanimous statement opposing the EU copyright package. I've written a blog about the Foundation's opposition to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Statement Opposing the EU Copyright Package

2018-06-29 Thread Eileen Hershenov
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, I want to thank our governing board for its strong and unanimous statement opposing the EU copyright package. I've written a blog about the Foundation's opposition to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Statement Opposing the EU Copyright Package

2018-06-29 Thread James Heilman
Thanks Maria The EN community continues to discuss the possibility of posting a banner targeted to those in Europe in an effort to raise awareness. Still a lot of work to do and further community support required for this to move forwards.

[Wikimedia-l] [Announcement] Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Statement Opposing the EU Copyright Package

2018-06-29 Thread María Sefidari
The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, which operates Wikipedia, the world’s largest online repository of free knowledge, believe that the European Union’s proposed copyright directive is a threat to essential human freedoms. If passed, it would limit free expression, and cause serious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-25 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Aaron Thank you for that "Rogol" On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: > Hi Rogol, > > In the blog post, I include a major section titled "Where we plan to go > next" which gives a high level overview of our plans for the next year. > There's a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-25 Thread Robert Fernandez
Come on, Aaron. You can't expect people to read the entire blog post. On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Aaron Halfaker wrote: > Hi Rogol, > > In the blog post, I include a major section titled "Where we plan to go > next" which gives a high level overview of our plans

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-25 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Hi Rogol, In the blog post, I include a major section titled "Where we plan to go next" which gives a high level overview of our plans for the next year. There's a section right beneath that called "How to learn more and get involved" with links to our team documentation, out technical blog,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-23 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
James In the light of what you say, I expect that Aaron will have no problem with being asked to follow his announcement on this list of "Democarizing axxess to AI" by posting in the same location as the original announcment a follow-up with a pointer to the plans and places for the community to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-23 Thread James Salsman
Rogol, you might want to look at the history of Aaron's talk pages and e.g. on Jimbotalk and various places on meta. He's been incredibly receptive to suggestions and ideas from the community, moreso than perhaps any other Foundation employee. On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Rogol Domedonfors

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-22 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Aaron, You write of "Democratizing access to AI." But it seems that what you mean is publishing the results of your work more widely. Do you have plan to democratize in the sense of involving a wider range of people in the decisions about how you work and what you work on – the wider Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about senior leadership of WMF's Talent & Culture team

2017-02-08 Thread shola ishola
Thank you Katherine for the e-introduction of Joady Lohr and Anna Stillwell for the amazing works. Kudos!!! Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, WUGN Olaniyan Ishola Olushola|MD, Data Access Systems Ltd|Treasurer,FOSSFA|Skype:ozo734 Tweeter:@oluwanishola73|www.facebook.com/olaniyan.shola|Alt email :

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement about senior leadership of WMF's Talent & Culture team

2017-02-08 Thread Katherine Maher
Hi everyone, I’m delighted today to share some news about the leadership of the Foundation’s Talent & Culture (HR) department. Joady Lohr and Anna Stillwell, the T team’s current senior leaders, will be assuming permanent senior leadership roles within the T team. As many Wikimedia Foundation

[Wikimedia-l] [ANNOUNCEMENT] StrepHit 1.0 Beta Release

2016-06-15 Thread Marco Fossati
[Feel free to blame me if you read this more than once] To whom it may interest, Full of delight, I would like to announce the first beta release of *StrepHit*: https://github.com/Wikidata/StrepHit TL;DR: StrepHit is an intelligent reading agent that understands text and translates it into

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-03-07 Thread James Heilman
+1 to MZMcBride comment I strongly support us actually elected the community trustees. I have reached out to a couple of lawyers to try to figure out how involved this would be. James On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:41 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Patricio Lorente wrote: > >Today the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-03-07 Thread MZMcBride
Patricio Lorente wrote: >Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted to remove one of >the Trustees, Dr. James Heilman, from the Board. His term ended effective >immediately. > >This was not a decision the Board took lightly. The Board has a >responsibility to the Wikimedia movement and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread Michael Peel
> On 16 Jan 2016, at 18:39, Alex Monk wrote: > > On 16 January 2016 at 10:08, Yury Bulka > wrote: > >> MZMcBride writes: >>> A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google >> Apps >>> platform,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread MZMcBride
James Alexander wrote: >I think everyone knows there are a lot of legitimate concerns to be >concerned about and certainly Arnnon's actions at Google are legitimate >for question however this whole "google is controlling the board/wmf" >line of thought is turning into a huge and enormous

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread Yury Bulka
MZMcBride writes: > A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google Apps > platform, which means that most e-mail sent on the wikimedia.org domain is > now hosted by Google. Are you sure? It doesn't look like wikimedia.org's MX point to google's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, To be perfectly honest, the biggest gift of Google is to recognise Wikipedia as significant. I like to think that it is because of the algorithms they use and even when it is not it is what makes Wikipedia significant. When they value us not only through their algorithms and give us money

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread Alex Monk
On 16 January 2016 at 10:08, Yury Bulka wrote: > MZMcBride writes: > > A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google > Apps > > platform, which means that most e-mail sent on the wikimedia.org domain > is > > now

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread MZMcBride
Yury Bulka wrote: >MZMcBride writes: >> A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google >>Apps platform, which means that most e-mail sent on the wikimedia.org >>domain is now hosted by Google. >Are you sure? It doesn't look like wikimedia.org's MX point

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-16 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Yury Bulka wrote: >> A few years ago, the Wikimedia Foundation switched over to the Google Apps >> platform, which means that most e-mail sent on the wikimedia.org domain is >> now hosted by Google. > Are you sure? It doesn't look like wikimedia.org's MX point to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [announcement] Ombudsman commission wider scope

2016-01-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
This is excellent news, and has been years in the making. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > Thanks Dariusz. As not all members of the Ombudsman Commission subscribe > this list, I forwarded this to them :-) > > > > 2016-01-14 15:58 GMT+01:00 Dariusz

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [announcement] Ombudsman commission wider scope

2016-01-14 Thread Pete Forsyth
+1, very good news. -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] p.s. As an aside, the role of an "ombudsman" has come up in two other contexts (relating to actions of WMF personnel, rather than volunteer functionaries) on the Transparency Gap page started a couple weeks ago:

[Wikimedia-l] [announcement] Ombudsman commission wider scope

2016-01-14 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, I'm writing to you to bring the news that, after a while of work and discussion, the Board has finally addressed the need to amend the scope of our Ombudsman Commission, following the community consensus from a while back [1]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Risker
Perhaps before people make random stabs in the dark about the nomination process this time around - which wasn't the old NomCom or any other former process - they might want to check the archives of this mailing list from late September or early October when candidates and nominations were

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
Milos, is your email a wind-up? I find this idea that everything will be okay if we shut up and let Jimmy select his mates as our future trustees not just a scenario that should stay in Bizarro World, but the opposite of good governance. If this is how the WMF actually works, then yes, the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Fæ wrote: > On 11 January 2016 at 00:37, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > .. > This does not make sense. The existing trustees are *entirely* > responsible for the trustee selection process, including ensuring a > transparent and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
Sorry, this continues to dig a bizarre hole. It would be rude or even unethical to nominate someone for a demanding trustee position in a NFP or charity without first personally approaching them in a friendly way and asking them if they might be interested and would like to be nominated. I do not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > I can, however, generally add that we have not collected any nominations > from our donors, if this helps. I can confirm this, as I am sure nothing has changed since NomCom existence in relation to this issue, except

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Fæ wrote: > >> On 11 January 2016 at 00:37, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: >> .. >> This does not make sense. The existing trustees are *entirely* >>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Lilburne
On 10/01/2016 04:04, Comet styles wrote: Jimmy has always been biased so I personally won't trust his words but the way this is playing out, its like James somehow revealed the pass codes to the WMF Nuclear launch codes or something...did he? A board made up to govern a community driven project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread James Alexander
I will admit that if I knew I would likely not be wiling to say without talking to others first. However I will never lie and I can honestly say that I do not. On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 2:27 AM, Fæ wrote: > Hi James Alexander, > > Thanks for writing here. As a WMF insider, do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2016-01-10 10:49, Lilburne wrote: Meanwhile one knows that a Google appointed board member objected to James, presence at a meeting where they were most likely to be finalizing the appointment of another from the Googleplex, who is a little tarnished. Would you please remain civil. We do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Tobias
On 01/10/2016 11:16 AM, James Alexander wrote: > Oh dear god everyone... [This is in general, not any specific person] > > I think everyone knows there are a lot of legitimate concerns to be > concerned about and certainly Arnnon's actions at Google are legitimate for > question however this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
On 10 January 2016 at 09:53, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > On 2016-01-10 10:49, Lilburne wrote: >> Meanwhile one knows that a Google appointed board member objected to >> James, >> presence at a meeting where they were most likely to be finalizing the >> appointment >> of another

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread James Alexander
Oh dear god everyone... [This is in general, not any specific person] I think everyone knows there are a lot of legitimate concerns to be concerned about and certainly Arnnon's actions at Google are legitimate for question however this whole "google is controlling the board/wmf" line of thought

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
Hi James Alexander, Thanks for writing here. As a WMF insider, do you know who recommended Arnnon to the trustees for a seat on the board? I can think of no reason why that should be a secret. Thanks, Fae On 10 January 2016 at 10:16, James Alexander wrote: > Oh dear god

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Andrea Zanni
I totally second James' invitation to avoid a certain tone, language and conspiracy theories. I will also add that the more those tone, language, and conspiracy theories are used in these threads, the *less* likely a good chunk of the community will participate in conversation. If we really want

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
10.01.2016 05:04 "Fæ" napisał(a): > > To help debunk conspiracy theorists, it would be interesting to find > out how many of the board of trustees have shares in Google, a useful > way of finding out who is part of the Googleplex. While I don't have, and never had (nor expect

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Fæ wrote: > Thanks for talking about it Dariusz. > > Could you please make a serious declaration of interests as is being > discussed at [1]. This will help set a ethical model for the rest of > the WMF board to follow without needing a year to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
Thanks Dariusz, nice example declaration for the rest of the board to think about. I look forward to reading about the WMF board follow-up, as this is an easy win to demonstrate improved governance, at a time when we need to count a few quick wins in the good-will bank. Fae On 10 January 2016

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
Thanks for talking about it Dariusz. Could you please make a serious declaration of interests as is being discussed at [1]. This will help set a ethical model for the rest of the WMF board to follow without needing a year to think about it. If you want to check some best practice examples of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: >> Thanks for talking about it Dariusz. >> Could you please make a serious declaration of interests as is being >> discussed at [1]. This will help set a ethical model for the rest of >> the WMF board to follow without needing a year to think about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Florence Devouard
Le 10/01/16 16:40, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit : On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Fæ wrote: Thanks for talking about it Dariusz. Could you please make a serious declaration of interests as is being discussed at [1]. This will help set a ethical model for the rest of the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread SarahSV
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Fæ wrote: > > > Thanks for talking about it Dariusz. ​Dariusz, would you please tell us who suggested​ Arnnon Geshuri ​ for a seat on the Board? Sarah​

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
> > > ​Dariusz, would you please tell us who suggested​ > Arnnon Geshuri > ​ for a seat on the Board? > > AFAIK we have not been sharing this information historically, and I don't think we are going to now - even the Board members themselves don't know, and quite likely should not know who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Jan 10, 2016 12:33, "Florence Devouard" wrote: >>> Could you please make a serious declaration of interests as is being >>> discussed at [1]. This will help set a ethical model for the rest of >>> the WMF board to follow without needing a year to think about it. If >>> you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread
On 11 January 2016 at 00:37, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: ... > AFAIK we have not been sharing this information historically, and I don't > think we are going to now - even the Board members themselves don't know, > and quite likely should not know who nominated them. I also fail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-10 Thread SarahSV
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > >> ​Dariusz, would you please tell us who suggested​ >> Arnnon Geshuri >> ​ for a seat on the Board? >> >> > AFAIK we have not been sharing this information historically, and I don't > think we are going to now -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-09 Thread MZMcBride
Milos Rancic wrote: >Our technology is based on the concept from 1990s, implemented in 2001 >and slightly changed up to the moment. The only major technology which >catches 2005 (Visual Editor) is in alpha or beta stage, depending on >how harsh QA process would be implemented. > >Something should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:48 AM, geni wrote: > On 9 January 2016 at 02:07, Milos Rancic wrote: >> On top of that, unlike Sue, Lila is a geek. And geeks have troubles in >> understanding the social impact of their actions, especially inside of >> the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-09 Thread MZMcBride
On January 8, 2016, the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees issued "a short statement on recent comments by James Heilman". For completeness' sake, I'm pasting the text of that statement into this thread. --- Recently, James Heilman wrote, regarding his removal from the Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-09 Thread Comet styles
Jimmy has always been biased so I personally won't trust his words but the way this is playing out, its like James somehow revealed the pass codes to the WMF Nuclear launch codes or something...did he? A board made up to govern a community driven project filled with people no one voted in decides

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-09 Thread geni
On 9 January 2016 at 02:07, Milos Rancic wrote: > > > On top of that, unlike Sue, Lila is a geek. And geeks have troubles in > understanding the social impact of their actions, especially inside of > the extraordinary complex environment of Wikimedia movement. > You aren't

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread James Heilman
Hey All Here is my statement of apology which I sent to my fellow board members Dec 19, 2015 and which has been commented on by a number of them on this list: To my fellow board members, After our conversation today it dawned upon me that I have not communicated well just how much I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Thomas Goldammer
2016-01-09 0:40 GMT+01:00 James Heilman : > > Our board made the decision to give Lila a > second chance in the face of staff mistrust. > Now that's interesting. Where can I read more about this? Th. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Vituzzu
Il 09/01/2016 01:08, Thomas Goldammer ha scritto: 2016-01-09 0:40 GMT+01:00 James Heilman : Our board made the decision to give Lila a second chance in the face of staff mistrust. Now that's interesting. Where can I read more about this? Th. I wonder how did this kind

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Nathan
I hope some day someone will be bold enough to tell the rest of us what this is all really about. I'm sure I'm not alone (though perhaps in the minority!) in not having inside staff contacts to provide the straight dope. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Nathan wrote: > I hope some day someone will be bold enough to tell the rest of us what > this is all really about. I'm sure I'm not alone (though perhaps in the > minority!) in not having inside staff contacts to provide the straight > dope. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-08 Thread Denny Vrandecic
James, all these things that you answered about - being out of process, disruption, ignoring advice - all of these were some of the things you explicitly apologized for just two weeks ago. Those were not my words, those are yours. Seeing you defend these, again, does this mean your apology was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Robert Fernandez
I understand the situation that Denny, Dariusz, Patricio, et al are in and I appreciate their attempts to address this issue. As a new member of the Arbitration Committee on the English Wikipedia, I've discovered that there is a great deal of anger about some of our decisions, and it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Anthony Cole
Denny, regarding "I am regularly being told off with the false claim that my seat was bought by my employer - Google", I've never seen that absurd claim and certainly haven't made it myself. In a comment at The Signpost and here I've asserted that you have a fatal conflict of interest, being on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Denny Vrandecic
I got asked by a number of people to share my personal opinion, which is set out below, regarding the dismissal of James from the Board. This took me far longer to write than I hoped for, and it was very hard to write. I am not sure if this will change anyone’s mind - in fact, I am afraid that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > The English Wikipedia Signpost just published data from a recent staff > survey that shows extraordinarily low confidence in senior WMF > leadership;[1] and the WMF and Knight Foundations just published > information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Tim Starling
On 07/01/16 06:44, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > -- James was not removed from the Board because he was demanding more > transparency. I'm inclined to believe James at this point, since he is the only one giving a credible explanation of causes. If he was not dismissed for this, then why was he

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread SarahSV
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Denny Vrandecic wrote: > I’ll tell you how I experienced it from my point of view: a few weeks ago, > I had to turn to the Board in a confidential and important matter for me. > And while writing my email, I felt that I probably should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread James Heilman
With respect to Denny's statement that I acted out of process, yes I spoke with staff at staff's request. However, so did the majority of the rest of the trustees. And the chair and vice chair were aware of these conversations. Additionally the situation in question justified these conversations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-07 Thread Theo10011
Denny, there was very little substantive content in your email. As with the explanation from other trustees, this too, has the same markings of subterfuge and evasionary tactics. It has been established beyond doubt that there were "trust" issues. Repeating it or any variation thereof by another

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Craig Franklin
While it's not hard to find a WMF employee who will privately (or increasingly, not-so-privately) complain of poor morale, I'd be wary of reading too much into submissions to sites like Glassdoor. Employees that are content rarely take the time to report this, so you end up with a skewed sample

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Tobias
Ultimately this is about cost. Right now, the cheapest way for the board to get away with this is to publish some vague statements without really revealing anything, and hoping that the discussion will die down after a couple of weeks. As a community, we can drive up the cost of this strategy.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 5 January 2016 at 23:44, Patricio Lorente wrote: > We have also been meeting with the 2015 Election Committee regarding the > next steps for filling the open community-selected seat. As I pointed out recently, the phrase "community-selected" is misleading in this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Pine W
Just a note that I am continuing to discuss the subjects of turnover and WMF employee morale with Boryana, and I have also asked Lila about this. Pine On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Craig Franklin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Thyge
Transparently, I suppose? Thyge 2016-01-06 19:31 GMT+01:00 Pine W : > Just a note that I am continuing to discuss the subjects of turnover and > WMF employee morale with Boryana, and I have also asked Lila about this. > > Pine > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Andreas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Pine W
Heh (: I have no problem with those emails being published. Just for clarification: I do believe that there is value in some confidential and 1-on-1 communications. Where I think there is room for change is with regards to a governing body of an open-source organization (in this case, the WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Craig Franklin wrote: > While it's not hard to find a WMF employee who will privately (or > increasingly, not-so-privately) complain of poor morale, I'd be wary of > reading too much into submissions to sites like Glassdoor. Employees

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-06 Thread James Heilman
I have begun a reply to the board Q & A here https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/James_Heilman_removal_FAQ=15213281#What_happened.3F Best -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-05 Thread Pine W
Patricio, Thank you for your email. Some comments: 1. The document on Meta says, "Yes. James had - as all of us - access to all documents and information which he needed for his work and decision-making on the Board." That is a little different than the question that was being asked here. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-05 Thread Lodewijk
Dear Patricio, Thank you for this. It clarifies several of the questions, although I'm confident community members will always have more. As a sidenote: It would have helped if you would have mentioned that a document with more information was forthcoming - even if it takes 8 days. Best,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-05 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Patricio Lorente wrote: > Dear all, > > We know that some of you have continued to have questions about the Board’s > recent resolution. We have put together an FAQ addressing some of the most > common or important questions. You can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-05 Thread Patricio Lorente
Dear all, We know that some of you have continued to have questions about the Board’s recent resolution. We have put together an FAQ addressing some of the most common or important questions. You can view the FAQ here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 2016-01-04 2:22 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: Off the record, Obviously not - that was part of a different email I started. :-) -- Marc ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
Off the record, On 2016-01-04 2:08 PM, Pine W wrote: [...] whether there will be another employee survey. If there's a lot of dissatisfaction among the staff, the reasons for that dissatisfaction would be helpful to know. It would, wouldn't it? Old numbers may or may not be as interesting,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Pine W wrote: > If there's a lot of dissatisfaction among the staff, the reasons for that > dissatisfaction would be helpful to know. Some recurring themes on Glassdoor[1] over the years are – * Hiring of completely inexperienced staff *

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Stephen, > If that isn't the case and staff > are trying to communicate with the Board directly a lot, it is smoke > pointing to a burning fire somewhere. I seem to be missing something. Did I say anything contrary to that? Hi Marc, > Wouldn't that depend on whether the ED is acting at the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Steven Walling
Pine, Given that the way James and the Board should relate to staff was one issue that lead to his removal, the situation in the wider WMF as an organization is highly relevant here. Under normal, smoothly-functioning circumstances (and most of my 4 year tenure at WMF) there was little reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 2016-01-04 1:56 AM, Pine W wrote: I agree that the turnover issue is a matter that needs some consideration. But I think that issue is more relevant to the ED rather than the Board. Wouldn't that depend on whether the ED is acting at the behest of the board or not? -- Marc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-04 Thread Boryana Dineva
Hello everyone (+Pine), Thank you for reaching out. The HR team definitely keeps an eye on turnover on a regular basis. One of the first things I did when I started (approximately 3 months ago) is a stats health check including turnover trends, org demographics, compensation practices,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-03 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Eh I'd argue at this point we have a fairly good idea of what went on. > > We know from the high employee turnover in some areas and the odd slip > (well that and pretty direct complaints > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=WMF_Transparency_Gap=15199687=15199605 > ) that, oh lets

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-03 Thread Pine W
I agree that the turnover issue is a matter that needs some consideration. But I think that issue is more relevant to the ED rather than the Board. I would appreciate it if we could keep that issue separate from the murky circumstances of James' departure and the conflicting testimony that has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

2016-01-02 Thread George Herbert
nt: Saturday, 02 January 2016 8:16 AM > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board > > "Peter Southwood" <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > >> I agree. >> The situation may well be metast

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