RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon So the AP will deliver 14Mbps of bandwidth even if all the SM's are only running at 1x rate? Travis Microserv Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: >Run Advantage A

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Travis Johnson
Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hi, Don't you have to have like a -65 or better signal to get 2x rate? Travis Microserv Gino A. Villarini wrote: Not the case, 14 mbps is 2x mode, but the

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Gino A. Villarini
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hi, Don't you have to have like a -65 or better signal to get 2x rate? Travis Microserv Gino A. Villarini wrote: >Not the case, 14 mbps is 2x mode, but the only reason for all your Sm's >would be a 1x would be cause they are o

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Travis Johnson
Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ve

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Gino A. Villarini
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon So the AP will deliver 14Mbps of bandwidth even if all the SM's are only running at 1x rate? Travis

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Travis Johnson
L PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps of bandwi

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-29 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon I was told a couple of days ago that the "regular" SMs are going away soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, September

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Title: Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) “Association of Closet and Storage Professionals” http://www.closets.org/ Humm... Is Charles trying to tell us something :) On 9/29/06 4:22 PM, "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/29/06, Ron

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 9/29/06, Ron Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles,   I know this is a duh question, but what is an ACSP?? DUH. Google is your friend. It's *obviously* the Australasian College of Sports Physicians.;)-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsu

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Ron Wallace
t: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:27 PM>To: ''WISPA General List''>Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)>>As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at Canopy>We have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-29 Thread Ralph Fowler
I was told a couple of days ago that the "regular" SMs are going away soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA]

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Rick Harnish
M To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at Canopy We have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting something together for a sponsorship Stay

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Charles Wu
Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor sp

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Dustin Jurman
Don,  you talking about the AZ event?    DSJ   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Renner Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)   I

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Someone posted a 3rd party GPS sync module (around $300 I think?). Can someone share that info with me again, please? :) Travis Microserv Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: >Run Advantage AP's and Legacy SM's. > >With the Advantage AP's and

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Delp
ess Solutions, LLC > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Travis Johnson >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon > >Another quick question... >

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Travis Johnson
L PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP st

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Gino A. Villarini
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP still deliver the 1

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
AP will deliver the full 14Mb Aggregate. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Travis Johnson
-Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Dylan Oliver wrote: Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor member? The "WISPA Vendor Members" text in the left column should

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
hard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) Partial hijack here

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Peter R.
You might want to take this discussion over to the Member list. Dylan Oliver wrote: Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor me

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Partial hijack here. On a related subject, is there anyone at Motorola that is "really good with WISPs". Someone who I can call and talk to as a Canopy user. Not a script reader. I admit I have never called them. I rely on vendors, and other WISPs for all Canopy related info and support.

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Dylan Oliver
Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor member? The "WISPA Vendor Members" text in the left column should be a link to either sectio

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Don Renner
Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)   I’m not sure whether they have yet.  I think they were last year but I don’t recall right now.  Anyone who is a valuabl

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Rick Harnish
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)   On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If we can get Motorola

Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If we can get Motorola to become a WISPA vendor member, we will gladly start a list here without those restrictions.  How has Motorola been approached?Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.or

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-27 Thread Anthony Will
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Well I have had 2.4ghz radio's link up at -89db (not very well mind you but...) so I don't know what to tell you other the

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-27 Thread Travis Johnson
that town is pretty well smoked. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Well I

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread isplists
ember 25, 2006 10:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd pre

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
-- From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:36 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs I should have also noted that per the info below, most Alvarion operators simply have a policy that they will only connect subscribers for whom a mini

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad, Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you consistently harp

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Patrick Leary
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict that as wisp education progresses, t

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hi, First, the spec sheet on Motorola's website says -86 RSSI. What happens when you have more than 3 towers outside of the 8 mile range of GPS sync? The 2.4ghz signal will definately travel that far, causing self-interference, co

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Well I have had 2.4ghz radio's link up at -89db (not very well mind you but...) so I don't kn

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Anthony Will
0 that will give you problems, it just carries so far. If the noise floor was lower, and Canopy could run at -90 we would have coverage for a long ways. It seems like we can always pick up a AP at -80. YMMV. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict that as wisp education progresses, they will realize the power of scheduled mac and GPS supp

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
The timing or range is a configurable setting in canopy, you set them at 20 miles and the AP's as far as 20 miles and under will all be in sync. If you have 2 AP past 20 miles but LOS to each other, you can calulate to see if the RSSI on the AP's is close to the reciever sensitivity(or noise fl

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
ED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. C

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Travis Johnson
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed,

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Anthony Will
Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sol

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Rich Comroe
on interference and hear "we haven't changed anything in months." Hence our nightly testing for interference changes. Rich - Original Message - From: "Mike Bushard, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, Sep

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon   Hi, I'd like to go back to the specs on different radios just so I can compare for myself... Trango 2.4ghz: 5Mbps auto ratio 8 non-overlapping channels 10mhz spectrum per channel -90 Re

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
ad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's provi

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Travis Johnson
coverage for a long ways. It seems like we can always pick up a AP at -80. YMMV. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General Lis

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: > I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are > doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be > primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Ca

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
John Scrivner Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad and Brad. You guys are getting boringsaying the same drivel over and over. PLEASE either take your broken record off line or say something original. Scriv Brad Belton wrote: &

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
scussion is for...I'm here to discuss improvements I'd like to see in the VL product. What is wrong with that? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM To: 'WISPA Gen

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
7.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Jon, Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Cano

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
bject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: > I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are > doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be > primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs inline Brad Belton wrote: >Price is always a factor, but we would gladly pay a premium for VL with the >sorely needed HARDWARE improvements: > >(1) Dual Polarity via software >(2) Dual Band 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz > > I know trango does d

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network of any scale that did not require GPS. I'd be interested

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
Comments inline: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Hello Brad, Forgive me as I just now realized you are with Alvarion and not an end user.

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
o eat crow. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: > Why is that the case? You really think GPS on C

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
s been the Achilles heel. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm not missing the point at all.

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
11:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder. It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not s

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself. It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember, Canopy does not even have ATPC) and to allow for channel re-use. Other systems

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Jon, Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself. It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (rem

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's out there. Patrick will have his hands full on this one. But for wisps

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
be doesn't mean you have to. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Hello Brad, I think you are missing the point of the thread h

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Agreed, VL does have more niche features and some of those can be the sole reason VL makes the cut and other products do not. As you know VLAN support was the key feature in this particular

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs My problem with VL is that it doesn't offer a scheduled mac...no syncronization capability. Now if this get'

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Patrick Leary wrote: I have a very interesting new (this month) pdf about this topic that compares Canopy Advantage and BreezeACCESS VL in a variety of ways, from a coverage modeling example using high end propagation software to VoIP stats using company documents from both companies. We think

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
ted to deliver. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband     - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs I should have also noted that per the info below, most Alvarion operators simply have a policy that they

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Matt Liotta
etwork." Oh and lets not forget the fact that Scriv is probably sleeping better at night without the outages he used to have. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subj

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Travis Johnson
TED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's out there. Patrick will have his hands full on this o

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
e commonly, but I give credit where credit is due.   Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband     - Original Message - From: Brad Belton To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:59 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband     - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Hi Tom. What hardware features a

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
ons, not technical. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Travis, WE provide Symetrical Business service with Canopy, why you couldn'

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
on VL has had on my network." Oh and lets not forget the fact that Scriv is probably sleeping better at night without the outages he used to have. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA Ge

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's proving you wrong. OFDM in UL has its place and making blanket statements to th

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
CPE installation was eave mount on 1 square mile centers vs high rooftop with more towers needed (again saving the service provider money). Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List&#x

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
e- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Price is always a factor, but we would gladly pay a premium for VL with the sorely needed HARDWARE improvements: (1) Dual Polarity v

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
refore not a viable solution for committed rate business offerings. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino,

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2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder. It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not sur

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2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
l Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's out there. Patrick wi

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2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
nt on 1 square mile centers vs high rooftop with more towers needed (again saving the service provider money). Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

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2006-09-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
ECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm sure most kno

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2006-09-24 Thread Jon Langeler
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Ahhh... there's always a catch... so now Motorola has your customer's address and can use that for their own marketing,

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2006-09-24 Thread Anthony Will
saying that Motorola holds the financing? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:18

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Ahhh... there's always a catch... so now Motorola has your customer's address and can use that for their own marketing, etc. without you ever knowing. They could pos

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2006-09-24 Thread Travis Johnson
ED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer "residential rebate pr

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs   lol…you are kidding right Patrick?   Brad   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List S

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2006-09-24 Thread Anthony Will
]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer "residential rebate progr

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2006-09-24 Thread Brad Belton
lol…you are kidding right Patrick?   Brad   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs   Hi Tom. What hardware features are

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2006-09-24 Thread Brad Belton
IL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs There are arguments against dual band support, as we have discussed before, though you ridicule our sincere reasoning and call it BS (which is why I am cautious

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2006-09-24 Thread Jack Unger
Patrick, Good list. One question that I have... Does the VL use polling or is it CSMA/CA? Your list says it is not some "basic CSMA/CA" but does that mean it is or is not CSMA/CA? Thanks very much, jack Patrick Leary wrote: I believe most if not all of the below are feat

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2006-09-24 Thread Chuck
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango Atlas CPE with dish $250? Canopy with dish $275 Canopy Advantage

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
TECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs So what is the onesy-twosy price of a Trango Atlas with an extended range antenna? What is the price for a Canopy Advantage CPE with extended range? I have plenty of

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango is no where near $400 for Atlas Foxes. Trango's Atlas Fox's distance without dish is just about the same as the standard Canopy CPE (same DBI antenna). Remember that Trango lists retai

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, The prices you state seem way low. I've only see nthat on temporar or Ebay type buyin

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Hi Tom. What hardware features are you referring to?   Patrick This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, va

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
dotally familiar with what Lonnie's product offers or what the guys in Latvia can really deliver. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
band - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Advantage AP 14 Mbps will give you 7 / 7 Mbps, and thats at the same time, wheres wit

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
TECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Your numbers are a bit off on the canopy and when i looked on the trango site it looks more in the range of $400 per unit at 30 pack pricing for trango's. I believ

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
nefits of OEM Flexibility than OEM price, for ambitious operators. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, September 23, 20

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2006-09-24 Thread Matt Liotta
.1243 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Agreed, VL does have more niche features and some of those can be the sole reason

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