Re: [Zappa-List] Cleverest Zappa Song?

[jcoonk]

Hi & Howdie Doodie!
(Are you a union man, and may I call you Rudy?)
A Thread is the line of messages on any topic; you added your comment to the 
subject message and I have added along. All of these posts on this topic 
constitute a thread...
As for "downloading shows", that's a much tougher question. It's done easily, 
but it does require software. The latest trend is torrenting - something I have 
yet to try. For an "old school" newbie like yourself, I would say that joining 
a vine is the quickest way to build up an FZ starter collection; you know: 
crawl before you walk, walk before you jog, jog before you run, etc... Copying 
an existing disk is much easier than downloading off the Net.
Welcome to the List!
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rudolf Schmidt 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Cleverest Zappa Song?


Hi Group



I'm ashamed to kind of admit this, I've been a voyuer here on this 
group, I'm not exactly sure how to download or know much about the internet 
(I'm very, very old school)...



But i wanted to get in on this...I'd have to agree, the cleverest FZ 
song ever is St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast.  The entire Apostrophe is a very 
clever piece, extremely clever...



Been a FZ fan for many, many years, wrote him a letter when I once 
worked for a music magazine.  He signed an autograph for me.



We lost a national treasure when he passed on.  



So I guess I'm saying hello to the group and if anyone wouldn't mind, 
can someone explain what a "thread" means and is it possible for me to actually 
download shows into my computer and onto a blank CD?  



Thanks for all help and input...please write and say hi to me.

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Cleverest Zappa Song?
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 8:46 AM



  Sofa...
  SOFA
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Cleverest Zappa Song?


Looking purely for personal opinions here. What is the cleverest 
Zappa song? Pick whatever definition of clever works for you. I'll go first: I 
choose St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast.

David 


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Re: [Zappa-List] Cleverest Zappa Song?

[jcoonk]

Sofa...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:35 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Cleverest Zappa Song?


  Looking purely for personal opinions here. What is the cleverest Zappa song? 
Pick whatever definition of clever works for you. I'll go first: I choose St. 
Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast.

  David

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Re: [Zappa-List] ZPZ show

[jcoonk]

Kon ban wa, Yuki-san,
So no taituru-wa, shiramasen. Gomenasai!
Itsu no ZPZ Tour, desuka?
Yuroshiku domo,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: t yuki 
  To: zappa-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] ZPZ show



  Does anyone know a title of a music that like a India music before a ZPA show 
begins?

   



To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:39:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Digest Number 2195

In a message dated 2/19/08 7:25:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  Was there an attachment or a URL link that was deleted in that message?
  I would guess that the first woman on the moon would be Alice Cramden
  am I correct?
 
 
There was a picture in it, and you would be correct. Someone has been 
posting a few goofy forwarded e-mail type things to the froup for some reason, 
don't ask me why.. *slight eye-roll*
 
--Milhouse






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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Zappa Beer

[jcoonk]

Before we escalate from modest cauterization to full-flame, let me remind all 
of our one cardinal rule against personal attacks.
Regardless of how we feel about another's point of view, they are - after all - 
entitled to it...
(I found the post not so much repugnant, as ill-informed.)
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Zappa Beer


  In a message dated 2/12/08 12:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
she wants to help the common people
  She does?
get the government to help
  She does?
as long as it wont cost her
  What are you talking about and what darkened corner of your ass did you pull 
that out of?

  --Milhouse





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Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer

[jcoonk]

That too is explained in TRFZB - check out 'Death by Nostalgia'. We're 
succumbing to it presently.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel f. Bradley 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer


  i figured that
  does that work for memorability and nostalgia packaging too
  QUESTIONING
  nosofahere





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  http://fhole.blogspot.com/




  - Original Message 
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:09:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer



  FZ drank beer and wine - in moderation.. . His stance was against 
intoxication, not against the intoxicants.
  FYI,
  SOFA
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel f. Bradley 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer


that what i thought when this thread started - FZ thought beer was for 
morons

and frankly for me most of my worst decisions have been made on beer

FZ idea was that one day people would discover that yest helped make stupid 
in the "mob mentality"

and i don't mind less FZ memorabilia - it's not like he's KISS







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- Original Message 
From: mr_and_mrs_skull 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:28:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer



When seeing this subject come up I'm reminded of the irony. Does anyone 
else recall FZ going on briefly about beer (and its association with stupidity) 
in the "Real Frank Zappa Book"?

and of course there would be his stance against drugs in general, and 
alcohol is in fact a drug (albeit a legal drug as opposed to those 'untaxed' 
drugs)

As I said, irony. 

Mr. Skull




   

Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer

[jcoonk]

FZ drank beer and wine - in moderation... His stance was against intoxication, 
not against the intoxicants.
FYI,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel f. Bradley 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer


  that what i thought when this thread started - FZ thought beer was for morons

  and frankly for me most of my worst decisions have been made on beer

  FZ idea was that one day people would discover that yest helped make stupid 
in the "mob mentality"

  and i don't mind less FZ memorabilia - it's not like he's KISS







  helping to kill your literati star since 2004
  http://fhole.blogspot.com/




  - Original Message 
  From: mr_and_mrs_skull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:28:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer



  When seeing this subject come up I'm reminded of the irony. Does anyone else 
recall FZ going on briefly about beer (and its association with stupidity) in 
the "Real Frank Zappa Book"?

  and of course there would be his stance against drugs in general, and alcohol 
is in fact a drug (albeit a legal drug as opposed to those 'untaxed' drugs)

  As I said, irony. 

  Mr. Skull


   

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - vine

[jcoonk]

That is understandable - because many others also do not follow protocol...
Sacred Rule #1: don't change the subject line (you didn't, thank you). This is 
the one rule that can really muck up the works when not followed.
You might try another search (or two, or 3) and change the keywords - try VO 
MITB, VO Music Is The Best, or Music Is The Best. Also, when you do find a 
reference message, try searching all the messages for that particular month, in 
case the SR#1 above was not followed. Sometimes that can help narrow things 
down...
Good Luck! (It IS an awesome set, compiled and created by one of our esteemed 
members, and now wildly bootlegged from the Orient.)
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: zav_sto 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:27 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - vine


  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  >Did you read the FAQ on our vine procedure, Bri? It's helpful in
  tracking them down and adding one's name properly.

  Thanks, I did.  Sorry about the poor protocol, but I couldn't find the
  last "entry" to add my name to.

  -Bri



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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - vine

[jcoonk]

Tough to say... From this message, it should have gone from JohnG to Del Bonner 
- and Del was last according to this...
I thought Del quit the group a while ago, but that might have been a different 
email account.
Regardless, vines are not supposed to "die" - the last to receive is obligated 
to pass it on, so it should still be available from the last active member to 
receive it.
SOFA

Did you read the FAQ on our vine procedure, Bri? It's helpful in tracking them 
down and adding one's name properly.
  - Original Message - 
  From: zav_sto 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:40 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - vine


  Is this vine still going?  If so, I'm interested.  I also have a 
  couple things I can trade.  Thanks,

  -Bri


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  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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  > who's next for this great MITB set?---john g in kansas
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: Greg Hallock 
  >   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:53 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - vine
  > 
  > 
  >   John G in Kansas send me your address So I can post this MITB 
  set out to you.
  >   This is a really great set!
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Re: [Zappa-List] Test

[jcoonk]

Thank goodness! Had this been an actual emergency, you'd probably have advised 
us to do all kinds of defensive stuff...
(That was close)
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mr_and_Mrs_Skull 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 12:27 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Test




  Just a test 



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Re: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/DVD - The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern

[jcoonk]

Hoppinate: verb; to prevent from leaping around the globe wildly; to 
disseminate from a geographical perspective/plan; to put into a logical order. 
From the Latin "Hoppihoppi, joijoi", meaning 'stop bouncing around, you idiot': 
late from Ren & Stimpy.
Hope this helps...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mr_and_Mrs_Skull 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/DVD - The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / 
Ensemble Modern



  Hoppinate?

  Jim L (US) << 

  For any of you that didn't get this already. You need to be able to copy a
  DVD disc for this one. It also helps if you have a DVD player that can play
  a PAL disc on your NTSC TV if you're in the US. Just sign up and I will
  hoppinate before sending out next week. Oh buy the way this is concert is
  fantastic and the quality of this DVD is very high. 

  - details ---

  Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern 
  The Yellow Shark 
  Alte Oper, Frankfurt, Germany 
  17 sept 1992 
  1h 29mn 22s (trailer + intro: 2mn) 

  Recording & encoding by CosmikD 
  TV sat > SkyStar2 > DVBDream > PVAStrumento > TMPGEnc Plus > Synchro with
  TVP audio source. 
  Video (Classica source): DVD PAL MPEG-2 720x576 25 i/s CBR 6000kbps 
  Audio (TVP Kultura source): 48000 Hz 384 Kb/s) 

  Authoring & animation by unicrayon 

  Menu with Chapters: 

  1. Classica Trailer 
  2. Overture 
  3. Dog/Meat 
  4. Outrage at Valdez 
  5. Times Beach II 
  6. III (Revised) 
  7. Magnesium Dress 
  8. Be-Bop Tango 
  9. Food Gathering 
  10. Ruth is Sleeping 
  11. Amnerika 
  12. None of the Above pt1 
  13. Pentagon Afternoon 
  14. Times Beach III 
  15. Welcome to the United States 
  16. Pound for a Brown 
  17. Get Whitey 
  18. G-Spot Tornado 

  A Zappateers Production - www.zappateers.com





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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan production DVD

[jcoonk]

I found it a little unfair that I had to take the time to keep this vine 
proper, when 2 of the new viners should know how the system works - Peter's 
new. Read the FAQ kids, PLEASE!
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: interludetwo 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:09 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD


  Agostino sent me the DVD, (much thanks!) so I'm ready to pass it
  along.  I don't see anyone on the vine after me (Tim).  Any new takers?  

   Tim Sprague (USA) << Peter Doyle - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (US) << ryxid - [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] (USA-IL) << kevcaf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (usa) << ??

Re: [Zappa-List] Buffalo 1980 on vinyl?

[jcoonk]

Looks legit to me...
Who bothers to bootleg vinyl anymore? And pity the fool who boots an exact 
replica of the cover art/commentary...
Are you positive of this, Glen?
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Glen Young 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Buffalo 1980 on vinyl?


  bootleg.

  Is this real or a bootleg?

  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320196003784&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

  Steve Marshall
  Editor - The Night Owl
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Re: [Zappa-List] RE: Frank Zappa-Bobby Jameson-acetate-1966

[jcoonk]

That was beautiful, Eric...
And you're not dumb.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: erik de bruyn 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] RE: Frank Zappa-Bobby Jameson-acetate-1966


  let the remarks fall;
  if someone walked up to me, and said;
  i remember studioz
  then, he can hit me,
  just was on jam fz
  and that guy stays in essence, or am i dumb



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Re: [Zappa-List] Re:VO - 12/4/93 RIP

[jcoonk]

Let's hoppinate this one for now, yes?
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: stephen barstow 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:54 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re:VO - 12/4/93 RIP


  Yes, please



  Goose << John K (US) << kevcaf (US)<< ryxid (US-IL) << Federico Valdes 
(Spain)<< Stevil (Norway)



  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zappa-List] VO - 12/4/93 RIP

[jcoonk]

Let's do this correctly, shall we?
SOFA

Goose <<  John K (US)  << ???
  - Original Message - 
  From: MIKE AHERN 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:40 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] 12/4/93 RIP


  sad sad day...

  in celebration of franks life, i have a DVD chock full of lossless audio 
files of FZ shows to offer up.
  YOU DO NOT NEED A DVD BURNER to participate in this offer, just the ability 
to play a dvd on your computer and a promise not to encode as MP3 virus files - 
MD or any other format which degrades the quality of the recordings 

  please reoffer the disc to the group when you got your copies xfrd to your 
hard drive. lineage and setlists as noted below.

  ~Goose


  Fillmore East-NYC Early Show
  11/14/70
  Source: SBD>10"MR>7"Reel>RevoxB77 playback>AlesisMasterlink>CD
  and 
  SBD>10"MR>Revox B77 playback>Alesis Masterlink>CD - Wino Man>>>End
  01. Jam to get Grace Slick onstage
  02. Sanzini Brothers
  03. Little House I Used To Live In
  04. Penis Dimension
  05. Mudshark
  06. Holiday In Berlin (Including Inca Roads and Easy Meat Themes)
  07. Cruising For Burgers 
  08. Sanzini Brothers' Pyramid Trick
  09. What Will This Morning Bring Me This Evening?
  10. What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are
  11. Bwana Dik
  12. Latex Solar Beef
  13. Daddy, Daddy, Daddy
  14. Do You Like My New Car? 
  15. Happy Together
  16. Wino Man (Dr. John Routine)
  17. Concentration Moon
  18. Sanzini Brothers' School Of Broadcast
  19. Jeff Simmons' Bass Solo
  20. Concentration Moon
  21. Mom And Dad
  22. Encore Jam// 
   
  1970-11-14 late Fillmore East NYC (sbd) (T-482)
  SBD
  Mics, Recorder and media unknown >
  unknown >
  Scotch 207 High Output / Low Noise reel 7 1/2 ips >
  Playback Deck: Akai GX-747 >
  Nikko 32 Band EQ > 
  Akai DR16 Digital Hard Disk Recorder 16 bit 44.1 Khz >
  ADS Tech Instant Music RDX-150 input SPDIF 
   output USB to computer 16 bit 44.1 Khz >
  Audacity > WAV > CD Wave Editor 16 bit 44.1 Khz > FLAC 

1.  Have Gun Will Travel
2.  Call Any Vegetable
3.  The Sanzini Brothers
4.  A Pound For A Pound For A Brown On The Bus
  (including Inca Roads / Sleeping In A Jar
5.  El Porko The Magnificent (including Johnny's Theme / Raindrops Keep 
Falling On My Head / 
   I Can't Give You Anything But Love)
6.  Sharleena
7.  The Air / Sharleena (reprise)
8.  Dog Breath
9.  Mother People
   10. You Didn't Try To Call Me
   11. King Kong

  >>>

  October 14th 1975
  Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Hall
  Kansas City, KS
  This copy: 71:04, A- (2nd Generation) 
  Lineage: AUD > unknown mics/setup > cassette > cassette > HD > SoundForge > 
ZP > GoldWave (silence during tape-flip removed) > CDWav (track splitting, 
saved as .FLAC level 8 ) > foobar 2000 (ReplayGain + tags added, the latter 
with Live Show Tagger) 

  TRACK LIST:
  01. Intro
  02. Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy (cuts in during end of guitar solo)
  03. Lonely Little Girl
  04. Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
  05. What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? 
  06. Chunga's Revenge
  07. Advance Romance
  08. Zoot Allures
  09. Swallow My Pride
  10. Any Downers? (tape flip @ 1:02)
  11. Camarillo Brillo
  12. Muffin Man
  13. crowd
  14. I'm the Slime
  15. San Ber'dino 

  >>

  MASTER 23rd January 1976 Festival HAll Melbourne Australia
  Lineage Aud (nil Dolby) BASF cassette~Pioneer deck~Edirol USB capture 
interface~Soundforge capture to wav~normalization (nil noise reduction)~Flac 
Frontend level 6
  (All the tracks come from three sides of cassettes. I have normalized each 
side separately before tracking. I have not attempted to match levels between 
the sides (tape flips). I will let the afficianados do that if they wish.) 
  Taped: flyingtoAdel
  Equipment:- Superscope stereo cassette recorder with one Sennheiser (?) and 
one non-descript microphone.
  01-Intro
  02-Stinkfoot
  03-Poodle Lecture
  04-Dirty Love
  05-Filthy Habits
  06-Medley *
  07-Black Napkins Part 1 (tape flip)
  07-Black Napkins Part 2
  08-Advance Romance
  09-Honey Dont You Want A Man Like Me 
  10-Illinois Enema Bandit
  11-Wind Up Workin In A Gas Station
  12-Tryin To Grow A Chin
  13-The Torture Never Stops
  14-Lets Move To Cleveland Part 1 (tape flip)
  14-Lets Move To Cleveland Part 2
  15-Chungas Revenge 
  16-Zoot Allures
  * How Could I Be Such A Fool, I Aint Got No Heart and I'm Not Satisfied

  >>> 
  1980 10 31 NYC, Palladium SBD 
  this recording: 
  31-Oct 1980, Palladium, NYC 
  41.21 min, SBD 
  01 Keep It Greasey, 
  02 Outside Now, 
  03 Tinseltown Rebellion
  04 Doreen, 
  05 Goblin Girl, 
  06 Audience (intermission?) 
  07 Joe's Garage, 
  08 Dancin' Fool([EMAIL PROTECTED] ), 
  09 Stick It Out
  10 Watermelon In Eas

Re: [Zappa-List] Unsubscribe

[jcoonk]

Help yourself, Frank...
There's a link at the bottom of this message that helps you do so.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Frank Ritacco 
  To: zappa-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:21 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Unsubscribe


  Please unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this list.

  Thanks!
  Frank Ritacco




To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:17:59 +
Subject: [Zappa-List] Zappa Cover Songs

lots of em:

http://zappafan.net/csrv/blogs/news/pages/songs.aspx





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Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75

[jcoonk]

I didn't intend to lay blame solely on your shoulders, Craig. This vine got 
convoluted early, before you hooked up, and got even worse with time - it was a 
group effort...
Our little system is not the most efficient or effective, but it works when the 
rules are followed. At issue is tracking the vine - for active participants and 
would-be, or future, participants. In order to use the 'Search' feature at the 
main page to track a vine, there needs to be continuity in the process, or the 
thread gets waylaid.
The most important thing is the subject line; a Vine's Subject should always 
begin with "VO", followed by the title of the collection. Other info, like DVD 
or CD or FLAC, can appear in the subject line - at the end - as long as the 
Subject starts out properly. And that subject line needs to perpetuate 
unchanged; even a little difference like 12-26-75 vs. 12/26/75 will throw off 
the Vine's tractability. It's a "tomato / tomahto" thing: essentially 
meaningless to we mortals, it means a lot to the machine we use to convey our 
message...
So do not feel it was "your bad", Bro. In all likelihood, I could have caught 
the subtle change at the time, and corrected it - as I've done on numerous 
occasions, but (since I rarely participate in these things) moderating the 
daily activities of a group as large as ours is rather time consuming.
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Satzman 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75


  I included that text with the vine.
  I apologize for any trouble.
  Peace,
  Craig
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75



I finally took some time to track this one down - to the best of my 
ability... There are rules involved in vining here and if everyone followed 
them, this would not happen (or, at least, tracking the vine would be much 
easier). This is the best order that I found (if this order is not correct, the 
vine participants have only themselves to blame):

Craig in California  >> Rand in Texas  >> 
Joe Boden (New Zealand) >>Robert S (US) 
 >> Bart (Pol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>

Rand, when you're ready to pass this on to Joe in New Zealand, please 
respond to this message, leaving the Subject Line intact, and remove Craig's 
and your name from the front.
Thank You.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Satzman 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:12 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] 12/26/75 Vine


  Craig in California here.

  I am done with the 12/26/75 cd.
  Who is next after me ?? I seem to have deleted the original email, my 
  bad
  Where can I go ?? (Says the Oakland cds ??) 



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[Zappa-List] VO 12-26-75

[jcoonk]

I finally took some time to track this one down - to the best of my ability... 
There are rules involved in vining here and if everyone followed them, this 
would not happen (or, at least, tracking the vine would be much easier). This 
is the best order that I found (if this order is not correct, the vine 
participants have only themselves to blame):

Craig in California  >> Rand in Texas  >> Joe 
Boden (New Zealand) >>Robert S (US)  >> 
Bart (Pol) [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>

Rand, when you're ready to pass this on to Joe in New Zealand, please respond 
to this message, leaving the Subject Line intact, and remove Craig's and your 
name from the front.
Thank You.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Satzman 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:12 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] 12/26/75 Vine


  Craig in California here.

  I am done with the 12/26/75 cd.
  Who is next after me ?? I seem to have deleted the original email, my 
  bad
  Where can I go ?? (Says the Oakland cds ??) 



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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Help

[jcoonk]

There should not be a need for a paper of instructions, as JimL has loaded his 
easy to follow instructions to the Files section at the Zappa-List yahoo page...
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: robert smith 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:05 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Help


  If this is a recurring problem, would it be possible to send along with the 
discs a sheet of paper with FLAC instructions? or a good link to read up on 
FLAC? I have a bit of music in FLAC format from other artists, but it might be 
a good idea for those that are venturing out of the mp3 format.

  Robert
   

Re: [Zappa-List] HELP!

[jcoonk]

You ROCK, my friend!
Thanx!
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] HELP!


  Done

   

  Jim L

  From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:19 PM
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] HELP!

   

  JimL,

  When I first downloaded and tried to use FLAC, you gave me instructions that 
- even with my pea brain - I could understand. Care to help David out - off 
List?

  TIA

  SOFA

- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:06 PM

Subject: [Zappa-List] HELP!

 

I got the ZPZ shows from the Wiltern in the mail yesterday. I can't seem to 
play them on my pc. I downloaded FLAC from the internet but I'm unable to 
proceed from there.

David

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Re: [Zappa-List] HELP!

[jcoonk]

JimL,
When I first downloaded and tried to use FLAC, you gave me instructions that - 
even with my pea brain - I could understand. Care to help David out - off List?
TIA
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:06 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] HELP!


  I got the ZPZ shows from the Wiltern in the mail yesterday. I can't seem to 
play them on my pc. I downloaded FLAC from the internet but I'm unable to 
proceed from there.

  David


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[Zappa-List] Greetings!

[jcoonk]

Happy Birthday Greetings and Best Wishes to our own, esteemed YellowMud Shark!

SOFA

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection

[jcoonk]

> David (US) << John K (US) << Mark M (US) << Robert S
> (US) << JoeDP (US) << JohnG in Kansas (US) << Skipsign (US) << Conehead (BE) 
> << erik da Bruyn (EU) << ??

Regards,
SOFA

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection

[jcoonk]

Erik,
You should read the FAQ in the Files sections of the yahoo groups Zappa-List 
page for the proper way to add yourself to a vine...
Regards,
SOFA

PS I will add your name properly this time, but please read the FAQ.
  - Original Message - 
  From: erik de bruyn 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection


  can you include-me, thx,erik


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection

[jcoonk]

John G was in before Skip, but the message was held up as possible spam. 
Correct order below:

> David (US) << John K (US) << Mark M (US) << Robert S
> (US) << JoeDP (US) << JohnG in Kansas (US) << Skipsign (US) << Conehead (BE) 
> << 

SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: skipsign 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:56 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection


  I'd like to get in on this as well:

  > David (US) << John K (US) << Mark M (US) << Robert S
  > (US) << JoeDP (US) << Skipsign (US) << Conehead (BE) << 


  -Skip

  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > Good catch, JimL! I'd noticed that too...
  > Might I also suggest hoppination for this one? (I'm confident
  Conehead won't mind.) Hence:
  > David (US) << John K (US) << Mark M (US) << Robert S
  > (US) << JoeDP (US) Conehead (BE) << ???
  > Regards,
  > SOFA




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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection

[jcoonk]

Good catch, JimL! I'd noticed that too...
Might I also suggest hoppination for this one? (I'm confident Conehead won't 
mind.) Hence:
David (US) << John K (US) << Mark M (US) << Robert S
(US) << JoeDP (US) Conehead (BE) << ???
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: ZpZ Wiltern Collection


  Looks like we had some unintentional jumping in the middle, and
  knocking off of your fellow viners on this one. Acording to the order
  that yahoo received the messages it should look like this.

  David (US) << John K (US) << Conehead (BE) << Mark M (US) << Robert S
  (US) << JoeDP (US) ???

  Jim L



  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Della Posta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
  >
  > WOW I am so glad that there is still more Zappa out there. Help to
  keep the
  > music alive.
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > David (US) << John K (US) << Robert S (US) << JoeDP (US) ???
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > Best Regards:
  > 
  > JoeDP
  >




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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VH1

[jcoonk]

So I was wrong... I've seen neither, so I wouldn't know.
Uhm, Milhouse was actually stating that a vine of officially released material 
shouldn't appear on the List - and he is quite right. If you want to contact 
plotch off-list and effect a trade, that is your business...
There's more than one VH1? WTF? Do they call it VH1 too, or VH1-2?
I've got to quit working so hard, and watch more television...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Satzman 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VH1


  Hey Milhouse,
  I would like to get in on this, vine or whatever.
  Thanks,
  Craig


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VH1



In a message dated 9/27/07 9:36:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  Lastly, I have this on a DVD made for me by a friend, with some
  bonus videos tossed on. If anyone is interested in a copy, or
  to start a vine, send me an email, as I tried once before with
  one and had no response.

I would think trading of officially released material would be sort of a 
no-no..

  Welcome to the Zappa-List, Zappawench! Love your ID! ;-)
IAWTP~

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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VH1

[jcoonk]

Probably the VH1 Classics Series of "Cucamonga" - but I could be wrong...
Welcome to the List, ZWench!
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: diane 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:45 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VH1


  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >okay, what show was on vh1 last night? os/' doc? or what?  thanks. 
  > I just saw & taped the VH1 show last night. Some things I've seen, some 
  > not, but it's always good to learn more about the Master!
  >




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[Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan production DVD

[jcoonk]

Hi Friends,
Received from Ashley afh.poet at virgin.net, burned and ready to follow to the 
next stop, I think it's Mark in USA, please send me your details, thanks to 
all!!!
Why the members doesn't post the email it's more easy...
All the best from Portugal

Mark (USA) << agostino (usa) << Tim Sprague (USA) <<

Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Goes For A Swim

[jcoonk]

Rare that a post makes me laugh - and cry; thanks Dawayne!
>From what I've read, FZ hated memorizing lines. His turn in MV was pretty good.
That last one, it was so obvious that he was in pain - plus, maybe a little 
more sedated than he'd have wanted...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dawayne Bailey 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:29 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Frank Goes For A Swim


  classic:
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-or_cVzTJI

  is this FZ's last interview?
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=E5r3Xzqw1Q4



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Re: [Zappa-List] question about Zappa song

[jcoonk]

Milhouse,
In our brief acquaintance, you have never - to my knowledge - misremembered 
anything re our hero...
And he's right, Michael (busted again, damn how does he do it?); in my search 
for info I should know off the top of my head, I scrambled the data I was 
gleaning from Roman Garcia's page. It was Yellow Snow that was performed as a 
stand alone tune in the 80 tours - not Alfonzo...
Hey Mil! It's really good to see we still pique your interest enough to draw a 
response. I - for one - miss your elucidations; and I hope all has been well 
for you and yours!
Warmest Regards,
SOFA

PS Michael, Milhouse; Milhouse, Michael... There. We've all been sorta 
introduced - oh yeah, Michael, Jim L; Jim L, Michael...
(This PC moment was sponsored by Jack La Lanne Hamburgers on 312 Whittier 
Boulevard)
  I may be misremembering and, therefore, wrong but I don't think "St. 
  Alphonso's" was performed alone in 1980. "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" 
  definitely was, though.

  --Milhouse

Re: [Zappa-List] question about Zappa song

[jcoonk]

Welcome to the List, Michael.
As for your "question", I don't think anyone really knows why FZ made the 
choices he made in regards to what became a recorded artifact...
As for Live renditions of Alfonzo (can't say I've seen the one on YouTube, tho' 
I may have), plenty of them exist: (the tune 'toured' in 73, 74, 78, & 79 as 
part of the Yellow Snow Suite, and as a stand alone song in 1980) Stage Series 
Volume 1 has it in the legitimate releases and I'm sure there's a boot of it 
making the rounds somewhere...
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: stumpe22 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:12 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] question about Zappa song


  Hello, my name is Michael Smith and I'm new here.  I'm a huge Zappa 
  fan, my alltime favorite, and I'me very into his music and 
  personality.  

  There is one thing I don't understand about the song "St. Alfonzo's 
  Pancake Breakfast".  On Apostrophe it's only 1:50 minutes long.  
  However, the live 1978 version I found on YouTube is over 7 minutes 
  long and one of Zappa finest moments (in my opinion).  There's also a 
  live version on Saarbrucken 1979 but it's expensive and the quality 
  isn't the best.

  What I don't understand is why Zappa didn't record this extended live 
  version on any of his other live albums, it's such a better song than a 
  lot of other live songs he recorded.  It's especially frustrating 
  because this extended live version is probably in my top 3 favorite 
  Zappa songs and may be my favorite.  Anyone care to comment?
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan production DVD

[jcoonk]

Yes, you may...
Proper order below.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Weston 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:24 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD

  Steve (Hawaii) << Theirry (France) << Ashley (UK)
  > << Carlos 
  > (Portugal) << Mark (USA) <

Re: [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan production DVD

[jcoonk]

Heh-heh...
Nevermind.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD


  No - you didn't, Steve; but JimL did; which is why you need to send carlos 
your email addy so the vine can be re-started...
  SOFA
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Cotten 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD


I never heard from anyone or received anything on this...sorry.



Aloha
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  - Original Message - 
  From: thierry barbier 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:24 PM
  Subject: Re : [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD



  Hi everey body

  I thought there was already this vine :

  << Steve (Hawaii) << Theirry (France)  <<  Ashley (UK)  <<  Carlos 
(Portugal) << 


  Thierry






  - Message d'origine 
  De : Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  À : The Zappa-List 
  Envoyé le : Mercredi, 30 Mai 2007, 1h05mn 10s
  Objet : [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD



  Cyrano is just waiting for you to send him your address, and let this old 
vine come back to life.

  Everyone interested add yourselves after Cyrano and separate with << 
marks. The first emails Cyrano. 



  Cyrano [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com ]  << ?



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Re: [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan production DVD

[jcoonk]

No - you didn't, Steve; but JimL did; which is why you need to send carlos your 
email addy so the vine can be re-started...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Cotten 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD


  I never heard from anyone or received anything on this...sorry.



  Aloha
  Steve (Hawaii)




- Original Message - 
From: thierry barbier 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: Re : [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD



Hi everey body

I thought there was already this vine :

<< Steve (Hawaii) << Theirry (France)  <<  Ashley (UK)  <<  Carlos 
(Portugal) << 


Thierry






- Message d'origine 
De : Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : The Zappa-List 
Envoyé le : Mercredi, 30 Mai 2007, 1h05mn 10s
Objet : [Zappa-List] VO Joe's Garage a Rock Opera Uni Of Michigan 
production DVD



Cyrano is just waiting for you to send him your address, and let this old 
vine come back to life.

Everyone interested add yourselves after Cyrano and separate with << marks. 
The first emails Cyrano. 



Cyrano [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com ]  << ?



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Re: [Zappa-List] Re:ISO: Crusin' with Ruben & The Jets original version

[jcoonk]

eBay...
I got a unit there, probably 8 years ago or so. It's a decent unit and it cost 
me about $150 - shipping included.
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: robert smith 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:38 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re:ISO: Crusin' with Ruben & The Jets original version


  I have the original Verve label vinyl of the first few albumsI'd have to 
go and look at the albums to make sure. Problem is now, I don't have a 
turntable worthy of playing my old vinyl. I would hate to ruin such a treasure 
with a crappy system. 

  any suggestions on a turntable under $500?? 

  Robert
   

[Zappa-List] OT - Regional Theater Competition.

[jcoonk]

Hey Kids!
I thought I'd provide a final update in regards to the amateur Theater 
Competition I've been in.
Our group went to Schaumburg, Illinois this past weekend to represent the state 
of Michigan in the American Association of Community Theaters Region 3 
competition. We competed against the best from 4 other states: Wisconsin, 
Illinois, Indiana, & Ohio.
We did not win - we did not place; we were stunned, as we had performed very 
well.
But that's the way it goes, I guess...
The experience was tremendously educational and rewarding. I've never been more 
proud of my association with a group of performers as I was this past weekend.
Our group did receive an award, given by the technical staff of the venue, for 
being the Best group to work with; I guess we made fewer demands on them than 
the other groups. And I won the award for Excellence in Sound Design (yes, SOFA 
did what SOFA does best, by creating a soundtrack for the show).
Sorry to bore anyone; I just had to tell ya!
Regards,
SOFA

[Zappa-List] Frank Zappa on Holland Doc

[jcoonk]

Saturday April 21 till Saturday April 28 2007


>From Saturday April 21 until Saturday April 28 Holland Doc shines the 
>spotlight on musical genius Frank Zappa. Besides unique film material Holland 
>Doc will also broadcast radio documentaries on the composer and rock-artist 
>Zappa on its website: www.hollandoc.nl/zappa.

The reason behind this tribute is the documentary Frank Zappa - A pioneer of 
the future of music part I & II, recently made by Dutch documentary filmmaker 
Frank Scheffer.

Along with part I of A pioneer of the future of music, Holland Doc will show 
the two famous documentaries Roelof Kiers made in 1971: Zappa and Frank Zappa 
films 200 Motels, and the documentary The Present-day Composer refuses to die, 
made by Frank Scheffer in 2000. For the real hardcore fans of Frank Zappa, 
Holland Doc will also present an episode of the pop program Wonderland, that 
hasn't been broadcasted since 1976. In this episode director Charles 
Leeuwenkamp follows two illustrious ex-band members of Zappa's "Mothers of 
Invention", Mark Volman en Howard Kaylan, alias Flo & Eddie during a 
sightseeing tour in Hollywood.

On the site www.hollanddoc.nl/zappa, Holland Doc will broadcast a Zappa concert 
that took place during the summer of 1970 which was aired in the classic VPRO 
show Piknik. On the website we also present the Supplement Tape, made by Co de 
Kloet in 1990 as a tribute to Zappa's fiftieth birthday and his four hour 
'Freakoutshow', in which he interviews rock journalists and musicians who 
worked with Zappa.

Check out the promo on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgUg1zeW4A

Visit for further information and an exact timetable our website: 
www.hollanddoc.nl/zappa. 

Re: [Zappa-List] Rubber Slices?

[jcoonk]

http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/concert_boots1976-1980.html#rubberslices

Click the above and scroll down.
Bro, if you're going to prowl eBay, you should bookmark The Patio...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:26 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Rubber Slices?


  found another strange title on this one

  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200093898564&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

  anyone know what this is?

  Matt





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[Zappa-List] OT - Time to Update the Periodic Table.

[jcoonk]

A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest 
element yet known to science. 

The new element has been named "Bushcronium". Bushcronium has one neutron, 12 
assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, 
giving it an atomic mass of 311. These particles are held together by dark 
forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like 
particles called peons. 

The symbol for Bushcronium is "W." 

Bushcronium's mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact 
with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons in 
a Bushcronium molecule, forming isodopes. 

This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that 
Bushcronium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in 
concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "Critical  Morass." 

When catalyzed with money, Bushcronium activates Foxnewsium, an element that 
radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it 
has half as many peons but twice as many morons.

SOFA

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual Continuity (1962

[jcoonk]

Re: VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual Continuity (1962Thank you, 
Stephen;
There's hope for this group yet!
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stephe 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:45 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual 
Continuity (1962


  << Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Jonnington - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
skull_fk - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Glen Young (UK?) << Robert Smith (US) << Joe 
Boden New<< stevil2001no - Norway [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zappa-List] Well FAQ all you people, I don't need no excuse

[jcoonk]

In the 48 hours it's been since I re-offered the MITB vine, I have been 
compelled to correct the vine post 5 times... Uh, with only six names on the 
vine - the first, I put there too, that means every freakin name on the list!
And some of you out there have the balls to say that the system is convoluted...
Well, FAQ all you people!
I aint playing schoolmarm no mo...
If this sucker gets lost, or becomes unsearchable, thanks to the ignorance of 
the List members, don't anyone whine about the system; the system works, it's 
the users that don't!
READ THE GODDAMN FAQ...
(steps off SOFA box, fidgets nervously)
Thank you,
SOFA

[Zappa-List] test

[jcoonk]

Just checking something strange...
As you were,
SOFA

(effing yahoo...mumble...bitch)

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual Continuity (1962 -

[jcoonk]

Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Jonnington - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
skull_fk - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Glen Young (UK?) << Robert Smith (US) << Joe 
Boden New Zealand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) << ??
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Boden 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual 
Continuity (1962 -


  And me please.

  At 01:11 a.m. 7/03/2007, you wrote:


Please count me in also!
 
Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Jonnington - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
skull_fk - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe Boden New Zealand [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
 
This looks great - count me in!

Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Jonnington - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << ??

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << ??
> 
> Thanks to Allan Bartlett's AWOL status, I am renewing this vine. This one 
has made the 
rounds before, so hoppination is not needed...
> Regards,
> SOFA
> 
> An incredible compilation put together by our own Steve Marshall, this 8 
disk audio set 
includes:
> 
> CD1 (Total time: 78:38) FINAL
> 1) RAY COLLINS - Deseri (FZ on drums)
> 2) NED & NELDA - Hey Nelda (FZ co-songwriter, played most of the 
instruments)
> 3) NED & NELDA - Surf Along (FZ co-songwriter, played most of the 
instruments)
> 4) THE HOLLYWOOD PERSUADERS - Grunion Run (FZ songwriter, FZ on guitars, 
bass & 
drums)
> 5) THE ROTATIONS - Heavies (FZ producer)
> 6) BURT WARD - Boy Wonder I Love You (FZ arranger, conductor, songwriter)
> 7) BURT WARD - Orange Colored Sky (FZ arranger, conductor)
> 8) Hungry Freaks Daddy (Mothermania version)
> 9) Who are the Brain Police? (Mothermania version)
> 10) How Could I Be Such a Fool? (45 version)
> 11) You Didn't Try To Call Me (Old Masters version)
> 12) You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here (Mothermania version)
> 13) Trouble Every Day (UK single version) 
> 14) It Can't Happen Here (Mothermania version)
> 15) Call Any Vegetable (Mothermania version)
> 16) Why Don'tcha Do Me Right? (Trick or Treat LP version)
> 17) Remington Electric Razor radio spot 
> 18) Who Needs the Peace Corps? (demo)
> 19) Mom and Dad (demo)
> 20) Harry, You're a Beast (demo)
> 21) What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? (demo)
> 22) The Idiot Bastard Son (Mothermania version)
> 23) Mother People (Mothermania version)
> 24) Lonely Little Girl (new version)
> 25) Lumpy Gravy Excerpt (Transparency edit)
> 26) Sink Trap (acetate)
> 27) Gypsy Airs (acetate)
> 28) Jelly Roll Gumdrop (45 version) 
> 29) Stuff Up the Cracks (Old Masters version)
> 
> CD2 (Total time: 78:50) FINAL
> 1) My Guitar (Unedited single version)
> 2) Uncle Meat Radio Spot - Medley 
> 3) Dog Breath (single version) 
> 4) Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)
> 5) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Peaches en Regalia 
> 6) Peaches en Regalia (Old Masters) 
> 7) Willie the Pimp (Old Masters) 
> 8) Son of Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)
> 9) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Little Umbrellas 
> 10) Little Umbrellas (Old Masters version) 
> 11) The Gumbo Variations (Old Masters version)
> 12) It Must Be a Camel (Old Masters version) 
> 13) Hot Rats Radio Spot - The Gumbo Variations 
> 14) Bognor Regis (outtake) 
> 15) Theme from Burnt Weeny Sandwich (demo) 
> 16) Do It Now Radio Spot - Suzie Speedfreak
> 17) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #3 
> 18) Didja Get Any Onya? (Old Masters version) 
> 19) Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask (Old Masters 
version) 
> 20) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #4 
> 21) My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama (Old Masters version) 
> 
> CD3 (Total time: 77:56) FINAL
> 1) Willie The Pimp, Pt 1 (live, import version, ends abruptly)
> 2) Tears Began to Fall (single version)
> 3) Junior Mintz Boogie
> 4) Willie the Pimp, Pt 2 (Old Masters version) 
> 5) Studebaker Hoch / Don't Fuck Around (live, unedited, 8/7/71) 
> 6) Just Another Unreleased Solo (live, 8/7/71) 
> 7) Who Are The Brain Police (live, 11/1/71)
> 8) 1972 Voter Registration Spot
> 9) I'm the Slime (single version)
> 10) Apostrophe TV Commercial (audio track) 
> 11) Uncle Remus (instrumental version) 
> 12) Roxy DVD trailer (audio track) 
> 13) Cheepnis (Discreet vinyl version)
> 14) Dog Meat (KCET remaster) 
> 15) Montana (KCET remaster)
> 16) Duke Solo (KCET remaster) 
> 17) Approximate (KCET remaster) 
> 18) Cosmik Debris (KCET remaster) 
> 
> CD4 (Total Time: 78:02) FINAL
> 1) Stinkfoot (KCET remaster)
> 2) Pygmy Twylyte (KCET remaster)
> 3) Inca Roads (KCET remaster) 
> 4) Oh No (KCET remaster) 
> 5) Son of Orange Co

Re: [Zappa-List] VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual Continuity (1962 - 1988)

[jcoonk]

I urge you to sign up for it properly, then, Joe...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Boden 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual 
Continuity (1962 - 1988)


  I'd like to be on this as well.  Joe Boden New Zealand [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  At 03:32 a.m. 6/03/2007, you wrote:


Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << ??
 
Thanks to Allan Bartlett's AWOL status, I am renewing this vine. This one 
has made the rounds before, so hoppination is not needed...
Regards,
SOFA
 
An incredible compilation put together by our own Steve Marshall, this 8 
disk audio set includes:
 
CD1 (Total time: 78:38) FINAL
1) RAY COLLINS - Deseri (FZ on drums)
2) NED & NELDA - Hey Nelda (FZ co-songwriter, played most of the 
instruments)
3) NED & NELDA - Surf Along (FZ co-songwriter, played most of the 
instruments)
4) THE HOLLYWOOD PERSUADERS - Grunion Run (FZ songwriter, FZ on guitars, 
bass & drums)
5) THE ROTATIONS - Heavies (FZ producer)
6) BURT WARD - Boy Wonder I Love You (FZ arranger, conductor, songwriter)
7) BURT WARD - Orange Colored Sky (FZ arranger, conductor)
8) Hungry Freaks Daddy (Mothermania version)
9) Who are the Brain Police? (Mothermania version)
10) How Could I Be Such a Fool? (45 version)
11) You Didn't Try To Call Me (Old Masters version)
12) You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here (Mothermania version)
13) Trouble Every Day (UK single version) 
14) It Can't Happen Here (Mothermania version)
15) Call Any Vegetable (Mothermania version)
16) Why Don'tcha Do Me Right? (Trick or Treat LP version)
17) Remington Electric Razor radio spot 
18) Who Needs the Peace Corps? (demo)
19) Mom and Dad (demo)
20) Harry, You're a Beast (demo)
21) What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? (demo)
22) The Idiot Bastard Son (Mothermania version)
23) Mother People (Mothermania version)
24) Lonely Little Girl (new version)
25) Lumpy Gravy Excerpt (Transparency edit)
26) Sink Trap (acetate)
27) Gypsy Airs (acetate)
28) Jelly Roll Gumdrop (45 version) 
29) Stuff Up the Cracks (Old Masters version)
 
CD2 (Total time: 78:50) FINAL
1) My Guitar (Unedited single version)
2) Uncle Meat Radio Spot - Medley 
3) Dog Breath (single version) 
4) Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)
5) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Peaches en Regalia 
6) Peaches en Regalia (Old Masters) 
7) Willie the Pimp (Old Masters) 
8) Son of Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)
9) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Little Umbrellas 
10) Little Umbrellas (Old Masters version) 
11) The Gumbo Variations (Old Masters version)
12) It Must Be a Camel (Old Masters version) 
13) Hot Rats Radio Spot - The Gumbo Variations 
14) Bognor Regis (outtake) 
15) Theme from Burnt Weeny Sandwich (demo) 
16) Do It Now Radio Spot - Suzie Speedfreak
17) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #3 
18) Didja Get Any Onya? (Old Masters version) 
19) Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask (Old Masters 
version) 
20) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #4 
21) My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama (Old Masters version) 
 
CD3 (Total time: 77:56) FINAL
1) Willie The Pimp, Pt 1 (live, import version, ends abruptly)
2) Tears Began to Fall (single version)
3) Junior Mintz Boogie
4) Willie the Pimp, Pt 2 (Old Masters version) 
5) Studebaker Hoch / Don't Fuck Around (live, unedited, 8/7/71) 
6) Just Another Unreleased Solo (live, 8/7/71) 
7) Who Are The Brain Police (live, 11/1/71)
8) 1972 Voter Registration Spot
9) I'm the Slime (single version)
10) Apostrophe TV Commercial (audio track) 
11) Uncle Remus (instrumental version) 
12) Roxy DVD trailer (audio track) 
13) Cheepnis (Discreet vinyl version)
14) Dog Meat (KCET remaster) 
15) Montana (KCET remaster)
16) Duke Solo (KCET remaster) 
17) Approximate (KCET remaster) 
18) Cosmik Debris (KCET remaster) 
 
CD4 (Total Time: 78:02) FINAL
1) Stinkfoot (KCET remaster)
2) Pygmy Twylyte (KCET remaster)
3) Inca Roads (KCET remaster) 
4) Oh No (KCET remaster) 
5) Son of Orange County (KCET remaster)
6) More Trouble Every Day (KCET remaster)
7) A Token of My Extreme Outro (KCET remaster) 
8) Orange Claw Hammer (live 11/1/75) 
9) 200Years Old (acetate)
10) Black Napkins (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan)
11) Ship Ahoy (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan) 
12) Find Her Finer (Old Masters version) 
13) Disco Boy (WB LP version) 
 
CD5 (Total Time: 77:41) FINAL
1) Ms. Pinky (WB LP version)
2) Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me (Discreet LP version) 
3) The Illinois Enema Bandit (Discreet LP version) 
4) Filthy Habits (Discreet LP version)
5) Flambe (Discr

Re: [Zappa-List] Best jams?

[jcoonk]

This is really a matter of taste - so let's not argue.
Although I liked the later band (saw them twice), I think 73-74 had more time 
together as a unit and, therefore, had a better feel for group improvisations...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: davidgolden99 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:51 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Best jams?


  1973-74 or 1977-78?




  For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or 
http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. 
  Yahoo! Groups Links

[Zappa-List] VO Music is the Best - 26 Years of Conceptual Continuity (1962 - 1988)

[jcoonk]

Phil Lee - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] << ??

Thanks to Allan Bartlett's AWOL status, I am renewing this vine. This one has 
made the rounds before, so hoppination is not needed...
Regards,
SOFA

An incredible compilation put together by our own Steve Marshall, this 8 disk 
audio set includes:

CD1 (Total time: 78:38) FINAL
1) RAY COLLINS - Deseri (FZ on drums)
2) NED & NELDA - Hey Nelda (FZ co-songwriter, played most of the instruments)
3) NED & NELDA - Surf Along (FZ co-songwriter, played most of the instruments)
4) THE HOLLYWOOD PERSUADERS - Grunion Run (FZ songwriter, FZ on guitars, bass & 
drums)
5) THE ROTATIONS - Heavies (FZ producer)
6) BURT WARD - Boy Wonder I Love You (FZ arranger, conductor, songwriter)
7) BURT WARD - Orange Colored Sky (FZ arranger, conductor)
8) Hungry Freaks Daddy (Mothermania version)
9) Who are the Brain Police? (Mothermania version)
10) How Could I Be Such a Fool? (45 version)
11) You Didn't Try To Call Me (Old Masters version)
12) You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here (Mothermania version)
13) Trouble Every Day (UK single version) 
14) It Can't Happen Here (Mothermania version)
15) Call Any Vegetable (Mothermania version)
16) Why Don'tcha Do Me Right? (Trick or Treat LP version)
17) Remington Electric Razor radio spot 
18) Who Needs the Peace Corps? (demo)
19) Mom and Dad (demo)
20) Harry, You're a Beast (demo)
21) What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? (demo)
22) The Idiot Bastard Son (Mothermania version)
23) Mother People (Mothermania version)
24) Lonely Little Girl (new version)
25) Lumpy Gravy Excerpt (Transparency edit)
26) Sink Trap (acetate)
27) Gypsy Airs (acetate)
28) Jelly Roll Gumdrop (45 version) 
29) Stuff Up the Cracks (Old Masters version)
 
CD2 (Total time: 78:50) FINAL
1) My Guitar (Unedited single version)
2) Uncle Meat Radio Spot - Medley 
3) Dog Breath (single version) 
4) Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)
5) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Peaches en Regalia 
6) Peaches en Regalia (Old Masters) 
7) Willie the Pimp (Old Masters) 
8) Son of Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)
9) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Little Umbrellas 
10) Little Umbrellas (Old Masters version) 
11) The Gumbo Variations (Old Masters version)
12) It Must Be a Camel (Old Masters version) 
13) Hot Rats Radio Spot - The Gumbo Variations 
14) Bognor Regis (outtake) 
15) Theme from Burnt Weeny Sandwich (demo) 
16) Do It Now Radio Spot - Suzie Speedfreak
17) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #3 
18) Didja Get Any Onya? (Old Masters version) 
19) Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask (Old Masters 
version) 
20) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #4 
21) My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama (Old Masters version) 

CD3 (Total time: 77:56) FINAL
1) Willie The Pimp, Pt 1 (live, import version, ends abruptly)
2) Tears Began to Fall (single version)
3) Junior Mintz Boogie
4) Willie the Pimp, Pt 2 (Old Masters version) 
5) Studebaker Hoch / Don't Fuck Around (live, unedited, 8/7/71) 
6) Just Another Unreleased Solo (live, 8/7/71) 
7) Who Are The Brain Police (live, 11/1/71)
8) 1972 Voter Registration Spot
9) I'm the Slime (single version)
10) Apostrophe TV Commercial (audio track) 
11) Uncle Remus (instrumental version) 
12) Roxy DVD trailer (audio track) 
13) Cheepnis (Discreet vinyl version)
14) Dog Meat (KCET remaster) 
15) Montana (KCET remaster)
16) Duke Solo (KCET remaster) 
17) Approximate (KCET remaster) 
18) Cosmik Debris (KCET remaster) 
 
CD4 (Total Time: 78:02) FINAL
1) Stinkfoot (KCET remaster)
2) Pygmy Twylyte (KCET remaster)
3) Inca Roads (KCET remaster) 
4) Oh No (KCET remaster) 
5) Son of Orange County (KCET remaster)
6) More Trouble Every Day (KCET remaster)
7) A Token of My Extreme Outro (KCET remaster) 
8) Orange Claw Hammer (live 11/1/75) 
9) 200Years Old (acetate)
10) Black Napkins (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan)
11) Ship Ahoy (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan) 
12) Find Her Finer (Old Masters version) 
13) Disco Boy (WB LP version) 
 
CD5 (Total Time: 77:41) FINAL
1) Ms. Pinky (WB LP version)
2) Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me (Discreet LP version) 
3) The Illinois Enema Bandit (Discreet LP version) 
4) Filthy Habits (Discreet LP version)
5) Flambe (Discreet LP version)
6) Spider of Destiny (Discreet LP version) 
7) Peaches en Regalia (live, Saturday Night Live, 12/11/76)
8) Baby Snakes Trailer (audio track - Baby Snakes DVD)
9) Broken Hearts are for Assholes (live, Baby Snakes DVD) 
10) Camarillo Brillo (live, Baby Snakes DVD) 
11) Muffin Man (live, Baby Snakes DVD)
12) San Ber'Dino (live, Baby Snakes DVD) 
13) Yo Mama (live, 2/15/78) 
14) Baby Snakes (live, 2/25/78) 
15) Watermelon in Easter Hay (live, 2/25/78) 
 
CD6 (Total Time: 78:24) FINAL
1) Packard Goose (rehearsal, 8/16/78) 
2) I Have Been in You (live, 9/21/78)
3) Flakes (live, 9/21/78) 
4) Dancin' Fool (live, Saturday Night Live, 10/21/78) 
5) Ancient Armaments (live, 10/31/78, single version) 
6) Don't Eat the Yellow Snow (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live, 2/18/79) 
7) Nanook Rubs It (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live e

Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Recommendations?

[jcoonk]

Tho' I would tend to agree with Milhouse on this one, I would suggest Zoot 
Allures & One Size Fits All. If these pop yer cork, we can proceed. If neither 
one works for you, well, we'd have to have a looong conversation before I could 
recommend any others...
Welcome to the List, btw...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Recommendations?


  In a message dated 2/23/07 6:34:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I have been listening to some Zappa and stumbled upon Hot Rats and have 
been completely blown away... Can someone recommend other albums by him 
that come close? I've listened to Uncle Meat and The Grand Wazoo but 
they don't have the same musical intensity.
  In terms of what you're probably hoping for, I would consider Hot Rats a 
unique item in the catalog.

  --Milhouse




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Re: [Zappa-List] ATTENTION: Allan Bartlett

[jcoonk]

Hmmm...
Not pleased; Allan is still a member and the emails are not bouncing; he's set 
to receive individual. I did tell Phil I would take care of him in the event 
Allan is gone; I helped kick-start our leg of the tour anyway. Let's give Allan 
a few more days...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] ATTENTION: Allan Bartlett


  I guess we haven't heard from Allen? Doe's everyone have a DVD drive in their 
computer? I have MITB backed up on two DVD discs I could send out. Room for a 
few bonus shows as well on the second disc like Saratoga. It also seems to have 
stopped at Allen. 

   

  Jim L


--

  From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:53 PM
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Zappa-List] ATTENTION: Allan Bartlett

   

  Allan,

  A List member is trying to contact you to continue the MITB Vine. Please 
respond to this message, so we know you're still out there.

  Thank!

  SOFA
   

[Zappa-List] ATTENTION: Allan Bartlett

[jcoonk]

Allan,
A List member is trying to contact you to continue the MITB Vine. Please 
respond to this message, so we know you're still out there.
Thank!
SOFA

Re: [Zappa-List] Introduction

[jcoonk]

Welcome to the List, Robert; I am SOFA, your fat, floating, maroon moderator.
May I suggest you check out the FAQ in the Files section on the Groups page? It 
will give you lots of nifty tuff & bitchin information on how to enjoy this 
group (lots of info on the vines that happen here). You'll love it... It's a 
way of Life!
Warm Regards, 
SOFA

PS  I think the ZPZ vine is headed over the pond for a bit, but you can still 
"get in on the hot action" - check out the FAQ!
  - Original Message - 
  From: robert smith 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:01 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Introduction


  Hi Group,

  Just wanted to introduce a 'newbie' to the group. What can I say? FZ has 
ruled my world for many many years, was able to see him live 5 times (certainly 
not enough), met Frank at the book signing for the 'Real FZ' book. I think I 
have around 75 FZ cd's (all commercial releasees), about 12 or so videos/dvds, 
7 or 8 books this man has always intrigued me. His brilliance and 
intellectual-ism inspires me to keep 'informed'. My favorite solo is probably 
on One SizeInca Roads, or possibly The Squirm off of Apocrypha and now 
released on Trance fusion under a different name and different mix. Favorite 
quote has to be 'jazz isn't dead"  Favorite period, that's a tough one. 
Most likely the period of Zoot, One Size, Hot Rats, but the Grand Wazoo and 
Lumpy Gravy hit the stereo quite often.

  Have to commend Dweezil for doing such an incredible job on bringing Frank's 
music out to the public again. I got the chance to see 4 of the shows and that 
wasn't enough. I'm looking forward to seeing more and to see what he comes up 
with next. I have to say, he is keeping the music, the atmosphere, the talent 
all  up to Frank's standard.doing the music justice with the band he put 
together and with the fun they are having on stage. The last show at the 
Morongo just floored me. What a way to end the tour this past year!!

  And lastly, being new to the group, I see there is a vine on the ZPZ 
shows. any chance of getting in this late? or the ability to do a trade 
with anyone? I'd like to relive some of these musical moments again.

  Thanks for listening!!!
  Robert
   

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)

[jcoonk]

This should read:

<< Andrew Goldstein << KEVCAF << Steve Marshall (US) << ??

SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Marshall 
  To: No Reply 
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 8:27 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)


  At 06:24 AM 2/2/2007, you wrote:

  Me too.

  >andy goldstein << Steve Marshall (US)

  Hope I'm doing this right. I still find this whole way of 
  vining terribly cumbersome...

  Steve


  Steve Marshall
  Editor - The Night Owl
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -
  Member - National Music Critics Association
  -
  The best place on the web for music reviews

Re: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.

[jcoonk]

Good to read you, Mr. Edison; I'd heard you'd died or something...
; )
Eloquent synopsis...
SOFA

PS Any pre-poop on this year's Zappathon? Or have you removed yourself 
completely?

PPS Volume 4 does emphasize the vocal prowess, so it is one of my favs
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Amutis 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.


  So many Zappa fans, so many differing opinions. Like mine. Unlike 
Milhouse I rarely pull out Volume 1 or 6. Some brilliant stuff there, granted. 
(How about that Mike Brecker solo on Black Napkins on Volume 6?) But a whole 
lot of Zappa The Entertainer which is not my favorite aspect of the work.


  Volume 4 is actually my favorite all round listening experience of the set 
with a great cameo by Archie Shepp, a blistering, definitive "Outside Now", 
"Tiny Sick Tears" and a downright affectionate (and spirited) doo wop medley. 
And I prefer this "Torture Never Stops" over the finished product. (Although 
the finished product did afford us some great solos through the years.)

  Volume 2's "Dupree's Paradise" does go on for a bit but overall it's 
essential listening.

  Took me a while to appreciate Volume 5 (after getting over my resentment that 
it was probably the final death knell of the probably never to be released 
"History And Collected Improvisations Of The Mothers Of Invention"). And I was 
still a fan of the ambient sonics of the older material than the slick 
syntethic sounds of the 80's bands when it came out (I still have trouble 
trusting things that sound like they shine). But once I got over that hump that 
set became a fave as well.

  Volume 3 is real hit or miss for me. I'm decidedly not a fan of the "King 
Kong" presented here, conceptually clever though it may be. Still I whip this 
set out quicker than Volumes 1 or 6.

  Don't get me wrong here. For the dedicated Zappa fan/maven the whole 12 disc 
set is essential. But we all go to the Zappa well for different thirsts. 
Volumes 4, 2 & 5 quench mine more than the others.

  Not Dead Yet,

  Bill Amutis
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  web.mac.com/mredison
  (Ol' Baggy Eyes) 

  Progress is not possible without deviation from the norm.-Frank Zappa





  What do others think of the Stage series ?Volume 1 is excellent, and is 
an album that I would term "essential" for Zappa fans and people just getting 
into Zappa. YMMV.

 
Volume 2 is Ok. I don't want to use the term "overrated", but it's very 
tempting. The first disc is really good. The second one drags down with a 
lesser performance of "Dupree's Paradise". The sprint thru "Uncle Meat / Dog 
Breath" could be a lot more enjoyable. I wonder why more people don't complain 
about the mix on this album. The overall sound is pretty 1980s for it being a 
1974 recording. I'm not just talking about the bass drum, either. FZ's guitar 
in particular was reprocessed in such a way that it doesn't even sound like his 
tone circa 1974. I find it kind of annoying. That and the regrettable overuse 
of digital reverb.
 
Volume 3 is a hell of a lot of fun. I know a lot of people don't love the 
1984 band. And almost an entire album's worth of stuff in this volume might be 
a little much. But it's fun. The 1973 "Dickie's" is great, and the extended, 
multi-edited "King Kong" is awesome.
 
Volume 4 is too inconsistent. This could have been an amazing volume of the 
series, but too many selections sabotage it. The 1982 stuff is great, but 
there's a lot of other stuff on it that leaves me unsatisfied. Think of what 
else could have been used from the Bongo Fury tour instead of the long and 
boring "original" Torture Never Stops, for instance.
 
Volume 5. Hm. I don't listen to the first disc very often. It's great when 
I want an early Mothers fix, but I don't come back to it very often. The 1982 
band.. what can I say. 2nd disc is great, but there certainly could have been 
better song choices than another version of "Dancing Fool". That said, it's one 
of my favorite individual discs of the series.
 
Volume 6 is actually probably my 2nd favorite overall of the series, after 
Volume 1. I'm not crazy about a couple of the choices on the first disc, but 
the second disc is excellent. It's really a shame the series ended here, as 
there was obviously so much more of this kind of live stuff that FZ could have 
put together, but.. he probably spent an awful lot of time on these 6 volumes 
anyway and needed to move on to other projects at some point.
 
--Milhouse

 

  = 

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: MOI Fillmore West 11-06-70 (Audio CD)

[jcoonk]

Yes it is.
I'm mailing it on to Skip today; you can squeeze in before it heads to Europe...
Search the messages from last week and you will find the most recent vine 
order. Respond to that message by adding your name to the queue.
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:37 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: MOI Fillmore West 11-06-70 (Audio CD)


  Is this show still available to get anywhere?

  Matt


  **
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Mothers of Invention
  > > 
  > > Fillmore West
  > > San Francisco, CA
  > > 11/06/1970
  > > 
  > > # of Tracks: 15
  > > Total Time: 63:49
  > > 
  > > Have Gun, Will Travel 1:34
  > > Call Any Vegetable 10:34
  > > The Sanzini Brothers 2:02
  > > Penis Dimension 8:05
  > > The Sanzini Brothers 2:20
  > > Little House I Used to Live In/Mudshark 4:57
  > > Touring Can Make You Crazy 2:14
  > > Would You Like a Snack? 1:39
  > > Holiday in Berlin 4:07
  > > Cruisin’ For Burgers 8:47
  > > Easy Meat 5:19
  > > **Frank talks to the crowd…** 1:53
  > > Daddy, Daddy, Daddy/
  > > Do You Like My New Car? 7:24
  > > Happy Together 1:07
  > > Who Are The Brain Police? 1:47
  > > 
  > > George Duke - keyboards
  > > Aynsley Dunbar - drums
  > > Howard Kaylan - vocals
  > > Jim Pons - bass (actually Jeff Simmons)
  > > Mark Volman - vocals
  > > Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
  > > 
  > > Like a tidal wave of total weirdness, the Mothers of Invention 
  > splashed down on the Fillmore West for a series of shows in November 
  > of 1970 before washing back into the seedy ocean of L.A., leaving 
  > the landscape forever changed (or at least confused and offended). 
  > > 
  > > Not to be outdone by the art school drop-outs and buck-skin fringe 
  > contingent then wandering the Sunset Strip, Frank Zappa had been 
  > steadily releasing incredibly strange records since the mid-‘60s. 
  > He abandoned the original Mothers at the close of that decade, only 
  > to reform a different line-up under the same name in 1970, this time 
  > including two members of the Turtles, Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman 
  > (sometimes known as Flo & Eddie due to contractual problems), to 
  > help with Frank’s increasingly bizarre comedy routines and, almost 
  > incidentally, singing.
  > > 
  > > The opening set by Boz Scaggs couldn’t possibly have prepared 
  > anyone for what was going to occur that night at the corner of Van 
  > Ness and Market, though it did prove that Bill Graham had a pretty 
  > good sense of humor. Eager to try out material from the upcoming 200 
  > Motels film and accompanying album, the Mothers don’t move in any 
  > one direction for too long; sometimes it’s as if they’re moving 
  > in all directions at once. There are hints of jazz-fusion and 
  > psychedelia, along with Zappa’s beloved doo-wop. They even make a 
  > brief stab at the Turtles’ "Happy Together" as part of the 
  groupie-
  > baiting sleaze-fest "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy." This is a limber bunch, 
  > but they’re at their best when playing it straight ("Call Any 
  > Vegetable" from Absolutely Free is a prime example). Some songs are 
  > derailed by excessive hollering and dialogue, the delivery of which 
  > suggests the performers are nearly as bored as the audience 
  > they’re baffling. Provoking the crowd, however, is part of the 
  > plan and listening to Frank scold them for their indifference is 
  > highly satisfying for anyone who’s ever stood under stage lights. 
  > > 
  > > An appreciation for this performance depends entirely on one’s 
  > threshold for long and noodly instrumental explorations accented by 
  > dick jokes. But it can safely be said that no one else was doing 
  > anything quite like this at the time. During an age of weird, Frank 
  > Zappa had the distinction of being the unparalleled weirdest.

   

Re: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.

[jcoonk]

It is precisely what they meant; read all about it: 
http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/lyrics/index.html
If the series is indeed new to you guys, then you should hunt it down and 
purchase it post haste! Essential listening, every one - but most fans have 
their favorites. Volume 2 is the one most talked about, and therefore most 
favored, IMO...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.


  Stage - as in "You Can't Do That On STAGE Anymore" - I'm pretty sure that's 
what they meant.

  David 

   
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.


  me too---john g
- Original Message - 
From: Jim L 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.


First I’ve heard of it. When did The stage series first come out? Is this 
the release of vault stuff? I guess I should go to Zappa.com more often or 
something because this one slipped right by me.
Jim L



From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Glen Young
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:38 AM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zappa-List] It was 19 years ago,probably not today.

What do others think of the Stage series ? 





   

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO:FZ related - Project Object, 2CDs(Flac) Buffalo Apr.19,2005

[jcoonk]

Corrected order.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Conehead 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:14 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO:FZ related - Project Object, 2CDs(Flac) Buffalo 
Apr.19,2005


  I have also received a private message with addy from Michael Golub, 
  so I will add his name to the vine here:

  Conehead-BE << John K (US) << Michael Golub (US) << Kevcaf(US)

  Off to John K today !

  Regards

  Conehead



  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >
  > Hey Conehead - 
  >  
  > Don't believe I ever signed up for this one, so I will take it - 
  Thanks! 
  >  
  > I'll send you my address offlist.
  >  
  > John K
  >  
  >  
  > Conehead-BE << John K (US) <<  ???
  >  
  >  
  > -Original Message-
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 3:38 PM
  > Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO:FZ related - Project Object, 2CDs(Flac) 
  Buffalo Apr.19,2005
  > 
  > 
  > Still waiting for a new recipient ... for almost a year now.
  > Anybody interested ?
  > 
  > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Conehead"  wrote:
  > >
  > > Thanks Bart !! I have received Project Object 2005-Apr-19 Buffalo,
  NY 
  > > today.
  > > 
  > > This set is ready to go to next one signing up here on-list and 
  > > contacting me off-list with snail address.
  > > 
  > > Thank You ...
  > > 
  > > Conehead-BE <<
  > > 
  > 
  > Thanks to Michael Painter for the original offer.
  > (as per his message #10157):
  > 
  > "New VO: FZ related - Project Object , 2CDs(Flac Format) CD Nr.10"
  > 
  > Details:
  > 
  > Source: Hi8 camera stereo > Replaytv 48000 hz > Vegas Video .wav
  > 44000hz > Flac Frontend
  > 
  > 
  > Project Object are:
  > Napoleon Murphy Brock: Vocals, dancing, Sax, Flute
  > Ike Willis: Vocals, Guitar
  > André Cholmondeley: Vocals, Guitar
  > Dave Johnsen: Vocals, Bass
  > Eric Svalgard: Vocals, Keyboards
  > Glenn Leonard: Vocals, Drums
  > 
  > Set One;
  > 01 Improvisation and Introductions
  > 02 Titties And Beer
  > 03 Andy
  > 04 Inca Roads
  > 05 Camarillo Brillo
  > 06 Cheepnis
  > 07 City Of Tiny Lights
  > 08 Tmershi Duween
  > 09 Florentine Pogen
  > 10 Dumb All Over
  > 
  > Set Two;
  > 11 Big Swifty
  > 12 Filthy Habits
  > 13 How Could I Be Such A Fool
  > 14 I Aint Got No Heart
  > 15 Im Not Satisfied
  > 16 Wet Tshirt Nite
  > 17 On The Bus
  > 18 I Dont Wanna Get Drafted
  > 19 Montana
  > 20 Village Of The Sun
  > 21 Echidnas Arf
  > 22 Dont You Ever Wash That Thing
  > 
  > 



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Re: [Zappa-List] Mofo 4cd or 2cd?

[jcoonk]

In a word, yes.
How much is up for you to decide; it's more than a matter of seconds...
SOFA

PS At this point in time, I own neither...
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:49 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Mofo 4cd or 2cd?


  Just curious if I went with the 4 cd version over the 2 disc one would I be 
missing anything?

  Matt
   

Re: [Zappa-List] [EURO]VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD)

[jcoonk]

(Damn, you Belgians copy shit fast!!!)
((SOFA))

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jurgen Verfaillie 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] [EURO]VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels 
True Story (3 DVD)


  A huge thank you to Conehead for kicking off this EURO vine!
  Electricloopstation: you're next -- please send me your snailmail details...


  Jurgen.




  On 16 Jan 2007, at 22:56, Conehead wrote:


A new set of these 3DVD will be circulating this side of the pond, 
hereby generating a new subvine, intro-Belgian first, EURO and maybe 
Rest-of-the-World later ...
This way the original 3DVD set, on its way to Andy (hopefully ...) can 
stay in the Americas and reach everone over there faster.

The "Belgian" vine:
Conehead-BE << jurgen.verfaillie@ (Belgium)<

Re: [Zappa-List] VO: "The Big One" Halloween,Oct 31,1978 NYC is moving

[jcoonk]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Della Posta 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:10 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] VO: "The Big One" Halloween,Oct 31,1978 NYC is moving


  [EMAIL PROTECTED] US << Richarde Moore - UK << Guy Gonzo US 

  << R2 -FIN <

Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema

[jcoonk]

Hang on Kids!
A new member responded to this first, but because his posts were still 
moderated and I was away from the machine, his response didn't come in until 
after John G's.
(Apologies, Rand/plotch - that situation has been rectified.)
So, the correct order of this new sprout - thanks to Guy for monitoring this 
one as he did! - should be:
Rand in US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << John G in Kansas (us)<< ??
Hope everyone is cool with this...
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Gobetz 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:04 PM
  Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema


  yes, Guy, I'd like to receive this great set & I promise to get them to the 
next viner as soon as I'm finished with them---john g in kansas

  John G in Kansas (us)<< ???
- Original Message - 
From: Guy 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both Shows Dillema


Boys and girls. I have the master vine discs from this 5 VCD 
orphaned vine and I'd be happy to send them on to anybody that wants 
them. Kindly start a new vine here or just post your intention to 
receive this and get me your mailing address.
Happy new year everybody.

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The 31 Oct 1981 date had an early show and a late show. The TTNS 
DVD that I
> transferred was made from the most complete version and it 
contains portions
> of both shows intermixed. MTV also broadcasted a shorter version 
of one of
> the shows. Then there are a few other less complete versions. Most 
of what
> was on Night Flight came from the official release known as The 
Dub Room
> Special. The Dub Room is made of footage from both the KCET '73 
show and the
> TTNS '81 shows. It also features some great claymation and some 
casual time
> with Frank having fun. You can get a good deal on the Dub Room at 
Amazon.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Zappa-Dub-Room-Special/dp/B000BC8SW4
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim L
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of plotch12_r777r
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Re: RE: [Zappa-List] 31 Oct 1981 Video from Both 
Shows Dillema
> 
> 
> 
> Forgive my questions from this newcomer
> 
> Is this the same or different? Video?
> I would be interested in this to compare, if it
> is currently or still available, thanks!
> 
> Rand
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
ups.com,
> Bart  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> thanks for an update!
> Actually it looks like the Early show makes almost 50/50 (44%) in 
it, 
> not bad score after all ! :-)
> Pitty we can't see the drowning witchie...
> Cheers
> Bart
> 
> I'm afraid I was responsible for that miss labeling. The MTV 
version 
> is of
> course the MTV version and when I originally got it well it was 
said 
> to be
> from the late show. It might be only from the late show I don't 
> really know
> for sure but it was a live broadcast I think so probably was. TTNS 
> turned
> out to be a mixture of both late and early. After close 
examination be
> several who had audio versions that were for sure split as early 
and 
> late
> this is how the mix on TTNS brakes down.
> 
> * early show
> # late show
> 
> 01. Black Napkins #
> 02. Montana #
> 03. Easy Meat #
> 04. Beauty Knows No Pain #
> 05. I'm A Beautiful Guy #
> 06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth #
> 07. Fine Girl #
> 08. Teenage Wind #
> 09. Harder Than Your Husband #
> 10. Bamboozled By Love #
> 11. We're Turning Again *
> 12. Alien Orifice *
> 13. Flakes *
> 14. Broken Hearts Are For Assholes *
> 15. You Are What You Is *
> 16. Mudd Club *
> 17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing *
> 18. Dumb All Over *
> 19. Heavenly Bank Account *
> 20. Suicide Chump *
> 21. Jumbo Go Away *
> 22. Stevie's Spanking #
> 23. The Torture Never Stops #
> 24. Strictly Genteel #
> 25. The Illinois Enema Bandit #
> 
> --- End forwarded message ---
>








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Re: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking

[jcoonk]

Dickell is one of the better 'middlin'  Tennessee Bourbons, IMO. JD & JB are 
okay, I suppose; kind of a shame that the one true 'American' style of whiskey 
is globally recognized at the 'middlin' level like that...
But then I think of Budweiser and it all makes a sort of twisted sense...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Glen Young 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 12:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking


  John Gobetz wrote

  In the southeast corner of Kansas I've had just enuf George Dickell 
  Tennessee sippin' whiskey

  In the UK we have Jack Daniels and Jim Beam plus a few others but George 
  Dickell is not one I've heard of before.

  Glen 




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Re: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking

[jcoonk]

Not all that much unlike Jagermeister...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 11:18 AM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking


  It's medicinal Glen. Drink enough and it induces a sort of healing coma. 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NyQuil

   

   

  Jim L


--

  From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen 
Young
  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 8:44 AM
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking

   

  Jim L wrote

  The only booze I've had all weekend was a couple bottles of 20 proof 
  Nyquil.

  Jeez,I should think that's all you'll need.

  What is it exactly.I've never heard of it ?

  That's got to be too strong for a beer ?

  Glen 

   

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Wolfgang's Vault / VO: MOI Fillmore West 11-06-70 (Audio CD)

[jcoonk]

I guess I'm in - if only to hear the early Easy Meat...
SOFA

johnk(us)<

Re: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking

[jcoonk]

It's 9AM here in Michigan. I'm drinking a nice cup of Starbucks French Roast 
(with a drizzle of Hazelnut creamer), trying to ignore the after effects of my 
"trip to Belgium" last night...
We had our 'personal' gift exchange last night - later today is with the 
extended family - and I did imbibe in some of my gifts: a tall Chimay, a small 
Duvel, Maredsous, & Corsendonk. As it appears I may never actually visit 
Belgium, enjoying their Brew is a vicarious thrill.
Today, a tasty US Microbrew: Arcadia Scotch Ale.
But for now, the coffee is making my tongue feel less troop-trodden...
Merry Christmas, all!
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Glen Young 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 6:34 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] What are y'all drinking


  And in case any of you are thinking this sad git is stuck on the pc not 
  having a Xmas,don't worry,I am.

  Me and the wife are just starting to cook our Xmas meal and I'm just nipping 
  now and again to the pc to avoid peeling sprouts etc and was wondering what 
  are folk imbibing this Xmas ?

  It's 11.35am here in the UK and I've just started on a pint of Bath Ales 
  Festivity which is a cracking rum porter weighing in at 5%...I have a 9 
  pint micro cask but won't be drinking all that today.

  I know there are quite a few good micro breweries in the US,wasn't there a 
  Freak Out beer recently ?

  See,I managed a post about Xmas food and still got a Zappa reference in 
  there ;-))




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Re: [Zappa-List] Today's playlist

[jcoonk]

Seasonings yourself, Glen.
No FZ on at this precise moment, but a couple of homemade comps have been in 
heavy rotation this past week...
Holiday Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Glen Young 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:22 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Today's playlist


  I thought it would be interesting to know what Zappa folks out there are 
  playing right now.

  Myself I've just been grooving to 17/5/81  Ritz,NYC which is the JWB 
  remaster d/l from either dime or zomb recently.

  What Zappa are other folks on the list listening to this Xmas ?

  And may I say Season's Greetings to SOFA and all others on this list.
  Glen in Bristol,England.




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Re: [Zappa-List] Freak Out 4cd set

[jcoonk]

The first pre-orders are now arriving. The early order link at ZdotCom has been 
removed.
Available thru local channels - or so I've been told.
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 7:18 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Freak Out 4cd set


  Has this been released yet? I saw something on Ebay but I went to Zappa.com 
and didn't see anything.

  Matt
   

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD)

[jcoonk]

So thus:

r2daft2 - UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] com << Andy Goldstein - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com << john g in kansas - USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] << [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgium) 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgium) << White Rabbitt - Centerville USA

I feel better, now.
Merry Christmas Rabbitt!
SOFA

Re: [Zappa-List] 20 YEARS OF FRANK ZAPPA

[jcoonk]

Matt,
http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/boxes.html#twentyyearsoffrankzappa
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:26 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] 20 YEARS OF FRANK ZAPPA


  I saw the above title listed on a trading list someone sent me a while back 
but never was able to get info on it. Does anyone know what this set is?

  Matt
   

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 200 Motels

[jcoonk]

Close, Paul!
Your message should look like this:

<< Andy Goldstein - USA << hungry_freak_paul - Canada <<
First timer, please be gentle.

And that's about as gentle as I get; ask anyone...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: hungry_freak_paul 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:35 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 200 Motels


  First timer, please be gentle.

  << hungry_freak_paul - Canada

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 200 Motels

[jcoonk]

You go to the yahoo groups Zappa-List page and read the FAQ that's in the files 
section...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marlowe 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 8:40 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 200 Motels


  I'd like to get in on that 200 Motels vine... how do I
  do it?


   
  

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Re: [Zappa-List] mystery FZ collaboration???

[jcoonk]

I poked around a bit and found nothing on it; most likely it's an OOP comp. I 
see no problem in vining it. I sure wouldn't know where to look to find it 
new...
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Gobetz 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] mystery FZ collaboration???


  hey sofa---john g  (me) has a question: I have a video tape that has a few FZ 
videos on it---you are waht you is, jazz from hell, etc---it was a Rhino 
promotional product a friend dubbed for me many years ago & i haven't been able 
to buy a copy of it anywhere here in the US---is it safe to vine?---do ya think 
the ZFT would get upset?---i sure wanna stay in their good graces---if there IS 
a way to purchase this killer little gem, do you have any suggestions?---just 
curious my friend---jg in kansas
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] mystery FZ collaboration???



Hmmm... Conflicting info:

http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/concert_boots1976-1980.html#frankiemeetsbobby
But, I would think that if a satirical track did exist with the 'band 
imitating the above artists', we'd know about it. I've never heard of the 
website that displays this, tho' it is obviously a Dylan site.
My experience with Dylan fans extends only to my best friend, who mirrors 
my FZ rabidity in his enthusiasm for "His Bobship".
He is not nearly into the trivial minutia that I associate with FZ fans... 
So I wouldn't be stunned if the Dylan site had the facts slightly askew...
My experience with boots is: this could well be an "Unreleased session with 
Neil Young, The Band, George Harrison, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Leonard 
Cohen and The Bee Gees", with no Zappa or Dylan involvement whatsoever...
Who to believe?
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:23 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] mystery FZ collaboration???


  I found a listing for a vinyl boot called Frankie Meets Bobby and the 
fist side is all Bob Dylan and the other side is a Zappa show but it lists a 
bizarre song called Bird Of Peace. I heave the 2/21/79 show where it says these 
are from and the Overture must be the intro sound effects and music from that 
show but nothing sounds the the Bird title. Anyone know?
   Here's the details

  http://www.bobsboots.com/boots/bt-f011.html

  Side two:  
  ZAPPA 
  Bird of peace 
  Overture 
  Intro 
  Dead girls of London 
  Brown shoes 
  Jumbo, go away 

  Bird Of Peace is an oddity. "Unreleased session with Neil Young, The 
Band, George Harrison, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Leonard Cohen and The Bee 
Gees". This one is in fact not a Dylan track, but a Zappa one. Frank and his 
band mates imitate the voices  of the above artists.  
  All Zappa tracks were recorded live in Bruxelles Feb. 21, 1979 at Vorst 
National


  Matt






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Re: [Zappa-List] mystery FZ collaboration???

[jcoonk]

Hmmm... Conflicting info:
http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/bootlegs/concert_boots1976-1980.html#frankiemeetsbobby
But, I would think that if a satirical track did exist with the 'band imitating 
the above artists', we'd know about it. I've never heard of the website that 
displays this, tho' it is obviously a Dylan site.
My experience with Dylan fans extends only to my best friend, who mirrors my FZ 
rabidity in his enthusiasm for "His Bobship".
He is not nearly into the trivial minutia that I associate with FZ fans... So I 
wouldn't be stunned if the Dylan site had the facts slightly askew...
My experience with boots is: this could well be an "Unreleased session with 
Neil Young, The Band, George Harrison, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Leonard 
Cohen and The Bee Gees", with no Zappa or Dylan involvement whatsoever...
Who to believe?
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:23 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] mystery FZ collaboration???


  I found a listing for a vinyl boot called Frankie Meets Bobby and the fist 
side is all Bob Dylan and the other side is a Zappa show but it lists a bizarre 
song called Bird Of Peace. I heave the 2/21/79 show where it says these are 
from and the Overture must be the intro sound effects and music from that show 
but nothing sounds the the Bird title. Anyone know?
   Here's the details

  http://www.bobsboots.com/boots/bt-f011.html

  Side two:  
  ZAPPA 
  Bird of peace 
  Overture 
  Intro 
  Dead girls of London 
  Brown shoes 
  Jumbo, go away 

  Bird Of Peace is an oddity. "Unreleased session with Neil Young, The Band, 
George Harrison, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Leonard Cohen and The Bee Gees". 
This one is in fact not a Dylan track, but a Zappa one. Frank and his band 
mates imitate the voices  of the above artists.  
  All Zappa tracks were recorded live in Bruxelles Feb. 21, 1979 at Vorst 
National


  Matt
   

Re: [Zappa-List] the vine structures in this group are a joke

[jcoonk]

Ridiculous: an adjective meaning worthy of, or deserving, ridicule.

IMO, the only thing worthy of ridicule when it comes to how we structure vines 
here is the lack of initiative amongst those who wish to be a part of said 
vines to educate themselves on how to do it properly...

And several of us have gone out of our way to make this information available 
to every member - repeatedly; I'm talking blue in the face repeatedly.

If there is another method that allows for the "features" we have installed in 
our vines (i.e. the never ending chain; the geographical considerations, the 
searchability of archived chains, etc.), yet makes it easier to accomplish (in 
the face of rampant ignorance/apathy), I would love to hear about it.

Our system may not be the best; I don't know. I do know that it was developed 
after a lot of complaints arose from the willy nilly manner of the previous 
"system" (which was, in effect, the "dealer calls the game"), and only after a 
good deal of discussion, and comparison with how other like-minded groups did 
it.

I can assure you that the developers of our system did not put their time and 
energy into "a way to make the sharing of FZ's music confusing, difficult, and 
next to impossible". That would have been ridiculous...

SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Golub 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 2:11 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] the vine structures in this group are a joke




  sorry but this group really makes vine structures difficult..why not either 
form a chain at the beginning of the sign up period, or post a vine offer one 
at a time..this is ridiculous
  Mike


  "Everybody take a deep breath, because thats all youre gonna get"  Bob Weir  

Re: [Zappa-List] I announced a spin-off group a year or so ago Non-Zappa List

[jcoonk]

Forgiven

(I assume you've sent the usual payment to the usual address.)
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Painter 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 3:26 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] I announced a spin-off group a year or so ago Non-Zappa 
List


  Sofa, 

  sorry for the plug...


  All the new/recent Zappa stuff can be found here...

  If you would like to join..

  http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/nonzappa-list/

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Re: [Zappa-List] adding myself to 3 dvd vine--thanks

[jcoonk]

Andy-Starless,
I will try not to sound like I'm busting your chops, but...
Have you read the FAQ on how vines work here? The reason I ask is because of 
the above subject line - and then the message.
If you add yourself to a vine, fine; but the subject line of a Vine, should 
NEVER CHANGE. Ever. Period... It's the subject line [VO: Uncle Meat, Video From 
Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD) NTSC] that makes the vine searchable for 
new members/viners.
When you change the subject line, you screw up the whole process: your name 
doesn't get added to any searchable, official list, people respond to the 
message thinking that they're joining a vine when they aren't, any 'announce 
response' feature for the original poster or other recipients is negated. The 
subject line is sacred - unless your response creates an entirely new post. But 
changing the subject lie of a Vine Offer is a major No-No.
Bro, I want you to enjoy all the FZ music there is to share; but, Frankly, 
you're throwing a major spanner into the works. I should have spoken up sooner, 
as I noticed this a while ago, but I cannot keep up with all of the vine 
activity at this group. Everyone has to be responsible for reading the FAQ, 
understanding how vines work here, and staying within the prescribed parameters.
A think a fitting penance for your transgression is to search out this vine [by 
the subject line, and by group activity in the past month], and come up with a 
corrected / updated order. In doing so you will learn: a) how to add your name 
to a vine properly, and b) just how convoluted a vine can become when someone 
responds to a message and changes the subject line.
Or, you can exercise your right as a human, and say "fuck that, SOFA". The 
choice is yours...
The next post I see that is a response, but has a completely new subject line, 
will be dealt with much differently.
Warm Regards,
SOFA


  - Original Message - 
  From: starless74 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:32 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] adding myself to 3 dvd vine--thanks


  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > Cyrano,
  > Although your offer sounds fantastic, I would not add the DVD to
  this vine; this one is rather well(?) traveled and I don't think it is
  fair to those who came before you if they might be interested in the
  DVD you have.
  > Could you start a new vine with it please?
  > Regards,
  > SOFA
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: Cyrano 
  >   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:58 PM
  >   Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200
  Motels True Story (3 DVD)
  > 
  > 
  >   >From: "abxer3p" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >Date: Mon May 29, 2006 9:26pm(PDT)
  >   > Subject: Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True
  Story (3 
  >   > DVD)
  >   >
  >   > Hello all --
  >   >
  >   > I've been dormant for a while, and I'm about to make a
  >   > move to a suburb of Las Vegas (from Dallas).  I'll
  >   > move myself to the end of this line.  I'm still a
  >   > non-burner and would only watch.  Maybe I'll be
  >   > DVD-capable by then, and with a firm address.
  >   >
  >   > still happy to be a member of this group,
  >   > jl
  >   >
  >   > chrisforeman-USA << Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Matt
  >   > brazilbyarybarroso@ << John K - USA NoKeating4@ <<
  >   > Randy-US << cyrano@ << Rick Norris-USA <<
  >   > [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA << Joseph (US)
  >   > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<< 
  >   I am ready to continue this and Rick Norris said "No thanks". I
  have an 
  >   e-mail out to Joseph (US) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a mailing address.
  > 
  >   "Do you still want to and can you continue this vine? Please let
  me know.
  >   I will need an address.
  > 
  >   I was getting ready to start another 3 DVD vine. I could just pony
  it onto 
  >   this in the spirit of Thanksgiving.
  > 
  >   - Mondo Hollywood
  >   - Weasels Ripped My Flesh
  >   - Onward Christian Soldiers - documentary on the Zappa hated 
  >   tele-evangelists and their quest for political power and world
  domination."
  > 
  > 
  >   Is it okay to add stuff mid-vine?
  > 
  > 
  >   Cyrano

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD) NTSC

[jcoonk]

 DO NOT ADD ANYTHING MID-VINE.

Thank you,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: cyrano6957 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 6:22 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True 
Story (3 DVD) NTSC


  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >
  >  
  > I'm very sorry for holding up the line here, but I've been so busy 
  and  
  > haven't sent this one off yet - It's in the mail today to Randy - 
  Sorry  guys!
  >  
  > John K

  I am ready to continue this vine and Rick Norris said "No thanks". 

  I have an e-mail out to Joseph (US) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a mailing 
  address.

  Here is what I wrote to him:

  "Do you still want to and can you continue this vine? Please let me 
  know.
  I will need an address.

  I was getting ready to start another 3 DVD vine. I could just pony 
  it onto 
  this in the spirit of Thanksgiving.

  - Mondo Hollywood
  - Weasels Ripped My Flesh
  - Onward Christian Soldiers - documentary on the Zappa hated 
  tele-evangelists and their quest for political power and world 
  domination."

  
  Is it okay to add stuff mid-vine?


  Message 2 
  From: "abxer3p" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon May 29, 2006 9:26pm(PDT) 
  Subject: Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story 
  (3 DVD) 

  Hello all --

  I've been dormant for a while, and I'm about to make a
  move to a suburb of Las Vegas (from Dallas).  I'll
  move myself to the end of this line.  I'm still a
  non-burner and would only watch.  Maybe I'll be
  DVD-capable by then, and with a firm address.

  still happy to be a member of this group,
  jl


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  brazilbyarybarroso@ << John K - USA NoKeating4@ <<
  Randy-US << [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Rick Norris-USA <<
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA << Joseph (US)
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD)

[jcoonk]

Cyrano,
Although your offer sounds fantastic, I would not add the DVD to this vine; 
this one is rather well(?) traveled and I don't think it is fair to those who 
came before you if they might be interested in the DVD you have.
Could you start a new vine with it please?
Regards,
SOFA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cyrano 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:58 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True 
Story (3 DVD)


  >From: "abxer3p" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >Date: Mon May 29, 2006 9:26pm(PDT)
  > Subject: Re: VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 
  > DVD)
  >
  > Hello all --
  >
  > I've been dormant for a while, and I'm about to make a
  > move to a suburb of Las Vegas (from Dallas).  I'll
  > move myself to the end of this line.  I'm still a
  > non-burner and would only watch.  Maybe I'll be
  > DVD-capable by then, and with a firm address.
  >
  > still happy to be a member of this group,
  > jl
  >
  > chrisforeman-USA << Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Matt
  > brazilbyarybarroso@ << John K - USA NoKeating4@ <<
  > Randy-US << [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Rick Norris-USA <<
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA << Joseph (US)
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I am ready to continue this and Rick Norris said "No thanks". I have an 
  e-mail out to Joseph (US) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a mailing address.

  "Do you still want to and can you continue this vine? Please let me know.
  I will need an address.

  I was getting ready to start another 3 DVD vine. I could just pony it onto 
  this in the spirit of Thanksgiving.

  - Mondo Hollywood
  - Weasels Ripped My Flesh
  - Onward Christian Soldiers - documentary on the Zappa hated 
  tele-evangelists and their quest for political power and world domination."


  Is it okay to add stuff mid-vine?


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Re: [Zappa-List] OT: Removing Gaps from TAO Discs

[jcoonk]

There are probably a few different ways / programs that would work...
I use a music editing program (SoundForge) to do it; it's not a 
one-point-click deal, in my case, I have to delete them one at a time. But it 
works well...
FWIW,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andrew 
  Goldstein 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:22 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] OT: Removing 
  Gaps from TAO Discs
  REGARDING JOHN K'S REQUEST FOR HELP WITH TAO DISCS..I NEED THAT 
  HELP TOO!!THANKSANDY G[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


I have a question for the group that hopefully someone can 
answer:
 
Is there some software that works to remove gaps from discs that were 
burned DAO?  I have a number of CD-Rs of live material that I 
suspect someone burned as Track-At-Once, and they now have 
annoying pauses between tracks.  I'm hoping there is a way to fix this, 
other then recopying the discs from the original CD source.  
Anybody?
 
Jim L, you seem to know a lot about this - What's the 
dealio?  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
John K


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)

[jcoonk]

Yes, that's what I figured out - finally...
Conehead is an old friend from Belgium who often helps keep the vines 
straight; it was his post that I misread. As I was in on this one, I chimed in 
to clarify and then I muddied the waters.
Lesson learned.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dawayne Bailey 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:05 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed 
  John's Vault (4xCDs)
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO ZPZ 2 DVD Video set NYC Beacon Theater 060612 - whos next--i hope i got i

[jcoonk]

One more time for the world...
 
> Mark M (AZ - US) << John K in California (US) << Carlos 
(Portugal) << Thierry (France) << Nick (UK) [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO ZPZ 2 DVD Video set NYC Beacon Theater 060612 - whos next--i hope i got i

[jcoonk]

Oh! That's It!
; )
SOFA
 
For some clarity here (if I didn't F it up, which I don't guarantee), the 
Vine:
 
> 
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Re: [Zappa-List] VO ZPZ 2 DVD Video set NYC Beacon Theater 060612

[jcoonk]

Apologies to Andy the Newbie for spelling his name wrong...
Other Andy (maybe the same Andy? I dunno one thong rind from another), 
please see my messages to Andy the Newbie on how to properly attach yourself to 
a vine.
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andrew 
  Goldstein 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:53 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] VO ZPZ 2 DVD 
  Video set NYC Beacon Theater 060612
  
  can I join the vine---andygoldstein in usa
   
  andy goldstein
  20379 west country club drive
  # 739
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  usa
   
  thanksMark Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Just checking in to see where this is at. I am eagerly awaiting my 
chance to make a copy!The last post I show is 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO ZPZ 2 DVD Video set NYC Beacon Theater 060612

[jcoonk]

Well, that's a closer step...
But this message doesn't contain the vine list, so your spot on addition 
means little...
Ya need to search out the most current list! (Info available in the 
FAQ).
Good Luck!
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  starless74 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:54 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO ZPZ 2 DVD 
  Video set NYC Beacon Theater 060612
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Mark 
  Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Just checking in to see 
  where this is at. I am eagerly awaiting my > chance to make a 
  copy!> The last post I show is 10/06/06.> > PEACE> 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)...andy goldstein

[jcoonk]

Hello Andie the Newbie!
Have you read the FAQ (located in the Files section of the yahoo groups' 
Zappa-List homepage)? It's chock full of interesting stuff - including how to 
properly attached yourself to the vines that circulate here. Might I suggest you 
check it out?
I'd hate to have you miss out, for lack of checking out...
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  starless74 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:52 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed 
  John's Vault (4xCDs)...andy goldstein
  HIandy newbie again trying to get in on the bald headed 
  john's vault vinethank u--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "John 
  Gobetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> hi group!---just 
  was curious---what ever became of this set?---john g in 
  kansas>   - Original Message - >   
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:51 
  AM>   Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault 
  (4xCDs)> > > >   I don't have the exact 
  track listing of the four discs, but here is what the discs are all 
  about:> >   http://www.thebignote.com/archived/bald_headed_johns_vault.php> 
  >   Don't bother with the mp3s on the page - No 
  workie!> >   John K> >   Bald 
  Headed John's Vault> > >   Curator: Magic 
  Fingers>   Desk Jockies: SOFA, The Grand Wazoo, TBN> 
  >   Rare Gems From August '81> >   
  This month we present a rare gem from deep within the Magic Fingers' FZ 
  concert collection.  Back in August 1981, during early rehearsals for 
  the 1981 tour, Frank put the band through a number of songs that in the 
  end never actually featured during that tour.  You thought Any Kind 
  of Pain was a song from 1988?  Check out these proto-versions, one 
  with different lyrics from the version we would become familiar 
  with.  How about We Are Not Alone with vocals?  Or Portuguese 
  Lunar landing, originally premiered on the 1975 tour but rarely played 
  even then.  A 1981 version of Kaiser Rolls?  Even We're Turning 
  Again with extra Hendrix verses.  It's all here, plus some 1981 
  standards.  Put your feet up, sit back and enjoy the 1981 band 
  earning a crust.> > 1.. Any Kind Of Pain 
  > 2.. Nig Biz > 
  3.. Kaiser Rolls > 4.. Dickie's Such An Asshole 
  > 5.. Portuguese Lunar Landing 
  > 6.. Teenage Prostitute 
  > 7.. Alien Orifice 
  > 8.. Cocaine Decisions 
  > 9.. Baltimore Moggio 
  > 10.. We Are Not Alone 
  > 11.. Any Kind Of Pain 
  > 12.. We're Turning Again > > 
  > > >   In a message dated 7/15/2006 6:03:18 
  A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:> Hi,> 
  > I'd like to squeeze in at the end of the 
  European leg of this vine > too. Thanks. 
  Conehead in Belgium.> > Neil 
  (neil_hawkins2003@) UK << Richard (richard.leslie.moore@) 
  UK> << r2daft2 (leswatts@) UK 
  << Ashley Harrold UK << Pete 
  Restall> (restallp@) UK<< Bart 
  (bartozjad@) Pol << Mark Timbrell - UK 
  <<> Alain (arid2004@) CH << 
  Conehead BE << Dawayne Bailey (oozlet@) US << 
  > John G in Kansas (croontoonz1950@) US 
  << Skipsign US << Luis > 
  (lusi_tanio@) AR << ??Andy Goldstein in usa ([EMAIL PROTECTED])> 
  > Could somebody please fill me in again on 
  what exactly is included in > this 4CD 
  offer ? I seem to have missed the initial offer post and I 
  > keep seeing replies without any reference to 
  its contents.> > Thanks kindly again 
  & Cheers ...> > CH> 
  > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, 
  "mrk_timbrell"  > 
  wrote:> >> 
  > Hi,> > > 
  > I would like to recieve this one as well, I will put myself in at 
  > > the end of the European 
  leg:> > > 
  > Neil (neil_hawkins2003@) UK << Richard (richard.leslie.moore@) 
  UK > > > << r2daft2 (leswatts@) UK 
  << Ashley Harrold UK << Pete Restall 
  > > (restallp@) UK<< Bart (bartozjad@) 
  Pol << Mark Timbrell - UK << > 
  > Alain (arid2004@) CH << Dawayne Bailey (oozlet@) US << John 
  G in > > Kansas (croontoonz1950@) US 
  << Skipsign US << Luis (lusi_tanio@) AR 
  > > << 
  ??> > > > 
  Hopefully in the correct place.> > 
  Regards,> > > 
  > Mark> > 
  > > > > 
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, 
   wrote:> > 
  >> > > Properly hoppinated 
  below:> > > 
  SOFA> > > 
  > > > - Original Message - 
  > > > From: restallp 
  > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  > > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:42 
  AM> > > Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: 
  Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)> > > 
  > > > > 
  > > Can I join too?> > > Best 
  regards> > > 
  Pete> > > 
  > > > > 
  > > Neil (neil_hawkins2003@) UK << Richard 
  (richard.leslie.moore@) > > UK 
  > > > << r2daft2 (leswatts@) UK 
  << Ashley Harrold UK << Pete Restall 
 

Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)

[jcoonk]

That's what I get for responding at that hour; of course you guys are 
right...
I missed the "Hi" in Conehead's mail, and thought that you'd sent it to 
Dawayne, John.
Apologies to all; I don't handle 'late' the way I used to...
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Gobetz 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald 
  Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)
  
  I haven't gotten this one yet---john g in 
  kansas
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:14 
AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald 
Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)



I think it should go to Skipsign-US, Dawayne; it looks like John G 
mailed it to you - at least, that's how the message reads. This one got just 
a little off track, but I'm pretty sure Skipsign is next.
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dawayne Bailey 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:26 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald 
  Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
  "Conehead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Hi "John 
  Gobetz",> > this set has been sent on its way the same day I 
  have received Dawayne > Bailey's address, i.e. Sep.27th. He 
  should have it by now, hopefully .> ..> > 
  << Dawayne Bailey (oozlet@) US << John G in Kansas> 
  (croontoonz1950@) US << Skipsign US << Luis 
  (lusi_tanio@) AR << ??> > Kind regards,> 
  > Conehead-BEHey all - I just bought a new CD/DVD 
  burner and the 4-CD set will go out to John G as soon as he emails me 
  his correct snail mail address. 




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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed John's Vault (4xCDs)

[jcoonk]

I think it should go to Skipsign-US, Dawayne; it looks like John G mailed 
it to you - at least, that's how the message reads. This one got just a little 
off track, but I'm pretty sure Skipsign is next.
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dawayne Bailey 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:26 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: Bald Headed 
  John's Vault (4xCDs)
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Conehead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Hi "John Gobetz",> 
  > this set has been sent on its way the same day I have received 
  Dawayne > Bailey's address, i.e. Sep.27th. He should have it by 
  now, hopefully .> ..> > << Dawayne Bailey 
  (oozlet@) US << John G in Kansas> (croontoonz1950@) US << 
  Skipsign US << Luis (lusi_tanio@) AR << ??> > Kind 
  regards,> > Conehead-BEHey all - I just bought a new 
  CD/DVD burner and the 4-CD set will go out to John G as soon as he emails 
  me his correct snail mail address. 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move

[jcoonk]

That's a good question, Steve. 
Traditionally, we've only hoppinated between East & West Hemispheres - 
not North and South...
And that is probably because a disproportionate number of us are in the 
North.
I'd say, now that this one has sorta 'made the rounds', we should let it go 
as is; Luis might well have been "hoppinated" back once or twice already with 
the initial list. He was an early respondent, if I recall.
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steve 
  Marshall 
  To: No Reply 
  Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:20 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 
  VO...US leg on the move
  Haven't gotten it yet, but should this one be 'hoppinated' 
  too?At 08:48 AM 10/19/2006, you wrote:>1. Re: FZ 3/2/77 VO...US 
  leg on the move> Posted by: "ryxid" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ryxid> Date: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:30 am 
  (PDT)>>Sorry I missed sending my address.  I'll go to the 
  end of the vine.>ryxid>>Steve Marshall(US-MO) << 
  luis (Ar) << ???<>([EMAIL PROTECTED]. com) << ryxid 
  (US-IL)Steve MarshallEditor - The Night Owl[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Member 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Kona Brewing Company

[jcoonk]

I thought I read somewhere that it was in the Honolulu Airport 
Lounge...
Or maybe it was another airport lounge, and Nappy turned him down at first 
because his band was booked for a gig in Honolulu...
Milhouse?
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Young 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 2:15 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Kona Brewing 
  Company
  
  
  Just got back from 10 amazing days in HawaiiNice story 
  Steve,Wasn't it in Hawaii somewhere that Frank *discovered* Nappy 
  ?Same restaurant par chance ?On second thoughts probably not 
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Re: [Zappa-List] i'm new and hope im not bugging anyone!!!!

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Andy!
An-da-ay!
Check out the Files section at our yahoo groups page. Read the FAQ 
first, it will explain a lot...
And some members have posted their trade lists there too; feel free to do 
likewise.
You'll love it; it's a way of life!
Regards,
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PS. I hear that Nivea Lotion works well on that thong rind thingy...
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  starless74 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:16 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] i'm new and hope im 
  not bugging anyone
  
  
  hi thereanyone out there I can trade with in order to get the paris 
  1980 dvd and these audio shows I am reading aboutlike 
  vancouvereverythinglike I said Im sorry to be a pain---is 
  there some sort of instructionsor decorum I should 
  follow?thanksandy goldstein
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Missing Vines

[jcoonk]

I mailed it off to the next in line (John in Kansas?), and posted a message 
to that effect with my name properly removed. If it has truly gone bye-bye, I'm 
happy to send off copies of my copy; I've confirmed it has no flaws.
Let's see if we can track it.
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Guy 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:07 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Missing 
  Vines
  
  
  Not to mention Dweezildorf Z plays Z.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
  "r2daft2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> It looks like the 
  following 2 vines have completely disappeared into > the ether!> 
  > Is there anyone out there able to restart a vine of any of 
  these?> > (or possibly you've forgotten that you're sitting on 
  one of them)> > 1. "The Big One" Halloween Oct 31, 1978 
  NYC> > 2. Uncle Meat, Video From Hell, 200 Motels True Story 
  (3DVD) NTSC> > Thanks in Anticipation,> 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Token/KCET DVD

[jcoonk]

This is a job for Lockdude!
(Turns on the 'Lock' signal, and speaks to Chief O'Hara:)
"Let's just hope that he's not too late..."
...Wow, I just googled the Batman Wikipedia; do you guys have any idea 
how many actors played Mr. Freeze?
SOFA
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:44 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Token/KCET 
DVD
  
  
  The reason I have not passed the KCET/Token DVD on is I am having a 
  problem copying it. I'm copying it using Nero 7 Burning ROM. When 
  it's copying the image, it gives me several notes of "Unrecoverable read 
  error at LBA (and a bunch of numbers)". I even made the drive speed the 
  slowest it could go to avoid errors.Does anyone know what this is 
  and if it will effect the copy I will make from the 
  image?
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Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move

[jcoonk]

With thanx to Chris, and John Keating, I have this ready to pass on. John 
Gobetz, your addy please...
Regards,
SOFA
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  chris 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 
  VO...US leg on the move
  
  
  
  john g in kansas (US) << ryxid in IL (US) 
  << Steve Marshall (US-MO) << luis (Ar) << 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: A Token Of His Extreme DVD

[jcoonk]

Okay...
I did your leg work for you Dawayne. The next in line is Richard Derse ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Please email him for his address...
Ya know, this is not that difficult; I can't fathom why someone else has to 
do this for you.
Anyone who plays as well as you, should be able to figure something like 
this out; it's not rocket science.
And I don't mean to bust your chops, Bro. You have my undying respect and 
admiration...
I believe Richard is the last on the Vine (from the archives I've 
checked). Look for him to re-offer.
Regards,
SOFA
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:19 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: A Token Of 
  His Extreme DVD
  
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
  "Dawayne Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
  "Dawayne Bailey"  > wrote: That's cool Richard. Now I 
  still need to know who to send this > > KCET/Token DVD to - 
  who's next and what is their mailing address?Once again, I am asking 
  you all - is there an established list of people here for the KCET/Token 
  DVD? The guy from Kansas sent it to me. Now I ask once again who is next 
  on the list? Thanks for your help.
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Machacek/Bozzio

[jcoonk]

Thank you for correcting me; I jumped to the wrong conclusion and I 
apologize for that...
Regards,
SOFA
 
 

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  From: 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 10:59 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 
  Machacek/Bozzio
  
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
  "minor_7th" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> Alex,> I'm 
  approving this bit of self-promotion only because Bozziosupposedly plays 
  on it...> Normally, tooting your own horn is viewed dimly around here; 
  this isdefinitely a One Shot Deal.> SOFA> > check out 
  guitarist Alex Machacek's new CD with Terry Bozzio, the> review 
  here:> > http://www.minor7th.com>This 
  isn't Alex, I'm the guy who reviewed the CD for Minor7th.com --I'm totally 
  unbiased, don't know Machacek, but recognize an amazingtalent that readers 
  of this group would certainly like to know about.Don't take my word for 
  it... listen to the soundfile. Very heavyZappa influence (and Bozzio 
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Re: [Zappa-List] re - FZ 3/2/77 VO...US leg on the move

[jcoonk]

I'll see if I can't figure out the Felt F-up for ya, Steve...
And you're in line right after Richard Derse on this one.
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  stevem 
  To: No Reply 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:22 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] re - FZ 3/2/77 
  VO...US leg on the move
  
  
  Hope I'm doing this right. I have yet to get anywhere with vines like 
  this...< Steve 
  Marshall (US-MO)I noticed my name doesn't appear on the Felt Forum 
  vine again... :(Steve
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future Shocks

[jcoonk]

Cool!!!
Thanks, Chris!
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris 
  Warner 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com ; Peter 
  Warner 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:29 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa: Past 
  Flops And Future Shocks
  
  
  Frank Zappa: Past Flops And Future ShocksRichard Williams, 
  Melody Maker, 25 August 1973HIS ARMS AROUND a red-haired girl whose 
  ample chest was covered with a MightyThor t-shirt, debonair Frank 
  Zappa (32) sank deeper into the couch, flexed hisbare bronzed torso, 
  refused a Gitane ? "Too strong for me" ? and concentratedhis mind on 
  the latest edition of the Mothers of Invention."This is the first 
  of my bands," he said, "which possesses the technicalfacility to play 
  the harder stuff from memory."The band, an octet, is currently on tour 
  in Europe, and makes its only Britishconcert appearance at the Empire 
  Pool, Wembley, on September 14. The new lineup,which has already 
  completed two tours of America and one in Australia, comprisesZappa on 
  guitar and vocals, Jean-Luc Ponty (violin), Ian Underwood 
  (clarinet,bass-clarinet, flute, synthesiser), Bruce Fowler 
  (trombone), George Duke(keyboards), Tom Fowler (bass-guitar), 
  Ralph Humphrey (drums), and RuthUnderwood ? Ian's wife ? on marimba, 
  vibes, typani, and assorted "smallpercussion."It is not, said 
  Frank, in any way a successor to or continuation from the20-piece 
  Grand Wazoo/Hot Rats orchestra which appeared at the Oval 
  cricketground last year."It doesn't sound like any band of any 
  sort that you've heard any place ? theinstrumentation alone gives it a 
  completely different tone quality. As a resultof the widely differing 
  timbres of the instruments, you get a lot of contrast."Much of 
  their material, too, is unfamiliar. 'St Alphonzo's Pancake 
  Breakfast','Don't Eat The Yellow Snow', two blues called 'Penguin In 
  Bondage' and 'SloughMy Throng', and lastly something called, 'Don't 
  You Ever Wash That Thing?' whichFrank describes as "an instrumental 
  with choreography."They'll also be playing some old 
  favourites, specifically 'The Eric DolphyMemorial Barbecue', 'Green 
  Genes', 'King Kong', 'Chunga's Revenge', and ? forthe first time in 
  five years and by popular demand ? 'Brown Shoes Don't 
  MakeIt'.To coincide with the tour, there is (inevitably) A New 
  Album ? by the samepersonnel plus trumpeter Sal Marquez. It's called 
  Over-Nite Sensation, andcontains none of the compositions mentioned 
  above. Instead, it sounds likeanother sneaky attempt by the Mothers of 
  Invention to get their cruddy music onthe radio.There didn't 
  seem much more to say about this new band until we'd all got achance 
  to hear it, so Frank discussed the Grand Wazoo tour: "All the 
  concertswere great ? except the one in London."It's tough to take 
  a 20-piece electric band to a frozen cricket ground wherethe audience 
  is trying to tear down the goal-posts (?) and burn them to 
  keepthemselves warm. But we broke all records at the Felt Forum in New 
  York."The Grand Wazoo seemed, I suggested, like a pinnacle of his 
  career, the objecthe's always been aiming at right from the days of 
  Freak Out."It would have been that kind of a climax, if the 
  band had been able to memorisethe arrangements, and if the technical 
  equipment had been of the right quality.The only thing that's 
  important is whether you have the opportunity and themoney to present 
  your crazed ideas properly."200 Motels wasn't done properly because 
  there wasn't enough time or money. TheWazoo tour, for instance, did 
  five concerts and grossed 90,000 dollars ? and Ilost 2,000 dollars of 
  my money on it. There was no way that I was going to 
  makeany."I gauge the success of something by whether I can 
  appreciate the outcome on apersonal spectator level. If all the parts 
  aren't audible, it isn't right ? andthat goes back to the technology 
  and the money to provide it."On 200 Motels, the orchestra beat the 
  shit out of the music ? they just didn'tplay it properly. I couldn't 
  even recognise it when they'd finished. Most of theactors were 
  non-professionals, and the whole thing was shot in 56 hours. We 
  allneeded more time, and if I'd had it, I've have gotten better 
  performances out ofeverybody, because they were the right people for 
  those roles."In spite of that, I think it was a good film, and 
  I believe that over a periodof years you're going to find out how many 
  strange predictions in the scriptactually come true."Such as 
  what?"Well, pay particular attention to the dialogue between Mark, 
  Howard, andAynsley. No matter how twisted you think that plot is, it's 
  based on things thathad happened, or on things that were based on 
  suppositions extrapolated frommathematical predictions of people's 
  personalities."Returning to technology, Zappa explained that 
  they've brought the PA systemwhich used to belong to Chicago. It's 

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[jcoonk]

Kids,
I will be away for the weekend, with no Net access.
Everyone play nice while I'm gone!
Later,
SOFA
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Re: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer US leg

[jcoonk]

Hmmm, good question...
There hasn't been quite the excitement on the Euro side as on the States 
side.
I'd say this one is worthy of a split, and - as John Keating was the first 
to respond - John should be the first US recipient. John, you know the 
drill...
The US leg should appear thus then: john k in california 
(US)<
And the Euro leg thusly: ashley harrold (UK)<
When Ashley mails this off to Arto, maybe he could change the subject 
header of the original post (with his response that the disk has been mailed, of 
course) to Euro leg, and adjust the vine list accordingly? It would be greatly 
appreciated!
Regards,
SOFA
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  chris 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:35 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] FZ 3/2/77 Vine 
  offer ...REQUEST to help seed
   
  
  
  Hi ya friends,
  It seems alot of folks would like this, so if it's the same copy as the 
  link here from zappateers, I would be happy to expedite this vine by making a 
  copy and vining it here for the US leg of the vine.
  What say ye Mr SOFA? Let me know where be da starting point after me and 
  I will get it in da mail in the morning.
  Here's the link to where I got my copy...
  http://www.zappateers.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3728
  Let me know.
  Happy to help spread da music!
  Chris
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer UK starting point

[jcoonk]

(sigh)
If you are in Europe, you would go at the end of the Euro leg; if the 
Americas, at the end of the US leg. As you use a yahoo address, I can't tell 
where you are in the world...
I would guess the vine should look like this, but only you can verify 
that.
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Please feel free to correct me!
Regards,
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jose Alberto Muñoz 
  Flores 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:38 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 
  Vine offer UK starting point
  
  
  
  hello and where anre the list?...
  thanks
  Alberto.
   
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  escribió:
  


Then you need to add your name and country to the list, 
Alberto...
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jose Alberto Muñoz 
  Flores 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:34 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 
  3/2/77 Vine offer UK starting point
  
  
  
  hello i'm interest in continuin' this. include me please
  Alberto.
   
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  escribió:
  


I believe we're still in the hoppination stage for this, so:
 
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Regards,
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Gobetz 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 
  6:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 
  3/2/77 Vine offer UK starting point
  
  
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 Vine offer UK starting point

[jcoonk]

Then you need to add your name and country to the list, Alberto...
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jose Alberto Muñoz 
  Flores 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:34 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 3/2/77 
  Vine offer UK starting point
  
  
  
  hello i'm interest in continuin' this. include me please
  Alberto.
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]net 
  escribió:
  


I believe we're still in the hoppination stage for this, so:
 
<
 
Regards,
SOFA
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Gobetz 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: FZ 
  3/2/77 Vine offer UK starting point
  
  
  . 
De nada 
  sirve al hombre lamentarse de los tiempos en que vive. Lo único bueno que 
  puede hacer es intentar mejorarlos. Thomas Carlyle-Fight back 
  spam! Download the Blue 
  Frog.http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=emFmcmV0aDczNjY%3D
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