At 01:11 PM 7/11/2003, Mark Gregson wrote:
IIRC one of the very early (perhaps the first) Sherlock Holmes
novels had a very anti storyline. Anyone out there who can either
confirm or refute?
Yep, and I've read the novel. A Study in Scarlet (1887). The
anti-Mormon stuff is not the focus
sphere of existence for perfection is different, but attainable for
those in each sphere.
Just a thought for your consideration.
George
- Original Message -
From: Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Is Laughter a Sin
At 10:41 AM 7/15/2003, you wrote:
And I for one just love Gospel music and am grateful that I can find some on
the cable channels. The Baptist may have a lot wrong, but they have great
music.
George
I, on the other hand, love and appreciate the Gregorian Chants and other
music produced by the
.
George
- Original Message -
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Is Laughter a Sin?
It's been a mystery to me for a long time, but being serious-minded myself
I felt I didn't have to worry about it. This is, however
At 02:49 PM 7/15/2003, Chet wrote:
*ASIS* didn't affect me nearly as much as the follow-up novel, *Sign of
Four* -- a rollicking adventure as well as a good mystery. But if you
think that Conan Doyle later put his prejudices aside, you'll find he had
another set of scapegoats in the Masons.
Look in Barker's book. He says there were temples.
Israel, as I understand it, was not able to participate in the Melchisedek
priesthood so it stands to reason there were no Melchisedek temples in
Israel. What do you'all think?
Stacy.
At 03:16 PM 07/15/2003 -0800, you wrote:
The
OK, but then so are road shows.
George
- Original Message -
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Is Laughter a Sin?
I don't feel the same way and I'm a former Baptist. I feel it's
sensationalistic
P.S.: Do you mind if I send your message about laughter to some priesthood
holders and get their opinion as well?
Stacy.
At 09:46 AM 07/14/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Yesterday in Priesthood Meeting we studied the sermons of John Taylor on
the topic of keeping the Sabbath day holy. At one point
It's been a mystery to me for a long time, but being serious-minded myself
I felt I didn't have to worry about it. This is, however, one of the
reasons I won't listen to sing-songy Protestant hymns and deplore the choir
from singing them. I also refuse to listen to Gladys Knight for the same
Showing deep insight, Stacy Smith wrote:
P.S.: Do you mind if I send your message about laughter to some
priesthood holders and get their opinion as well?
Please do. Every time I ask this question, EVERYONE tells me that laughter
and joking are fine, but NOBODY attempts to explain the
Nope.
Note that the scriptures reference loud laughter and a light mind.
J. Golden Kimball, Brigham Young, Joseph Smith, Gordon B. Hinckley, and
many other general authorities have not only used humour, but spoken of
the therapeutic value of laughter.
Loud, raucious laughter (of the type which
In other words what you're saying is essential self-control and self-mastery.
Stacy.
At 11:20 PM 07/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Nope.
Note that the scriptures reference loud laughter and a light mind.
J. Golden Kimball, Brigham Young, Joseph Smith, Gordon B. Hinckley, and
many other general
It says after all we can do, not after all we do. That's not to say we
don't repent and repent often. I'll give you a scenario. Suppose someone
commits sin no. 760 of the day but it is a tiny thing and he hardly
notices. It is certainly nothing to go to the bishop about, at least
that's
Paul Osborne wrote to our BLT:
I'm a bigger jerk than you and that's pretty bad! ;-)
Grampa Bill comments:
But Till lives in a deeper (and more humble) hole than either of you.
Love y'all,
Grampa Bill in Savannah
Concerning 2 Nephi 25:23 . . .
At 12:58 AM 7/13/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote:
It says after all we can do, not after all we do.
Exactly. No matter how much we do, we can never do enough to save
ourselves. We are all dependent upon God's grace, even after doing
everything we can possibly do.
At 10:03 AM 7/13/03 -0600, George Cobabe wrote:
Come on folks - this is an easy list. You can do all of this and still have
time left over for all the rest you might want to do.
Your exaltation depends more upon your acceptance of the atonement, which no
one has mentioned so far, than ANYTHING
Stacy Smith favored us with:
It says after all we can do, not after all we do. That's not to say
we don't repent and repent often. I'll give you a scenario. Suppose
someone commits sin no. 760 of the day but it is a tiny thing and he
hardly notices. It is certainly nothing to go to the
to
have our soul refined in preparation for the next life.
Not a nightmare - a sweet life with challenges.
At least in my limited experience.
George
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Having
George Cobabe favored us with:
I am sorry that your life is so terrible that you need to disagree.
I have noticed that when the burden is great and is heavy to bear it is a
result of sin and of ignoring the promise of the Savior: My burden is
light.
Challenges? Yes, but manageable and to be
I heartily concur. Although you'll still find people who don't even know
where King Benjamin's speech is found or even know where major doctrines of
the book are found. I am happy to say that I'm getting better at this. I
know where to look for major story lines in the Book of Mormon and
, not Circumstances is one of the keys to a happy life.
George
- Original Message -
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and ...
George Cobabe favored us with:
I am sorry
Jim Cobabe:
I wept when I learned of this sad news. Is something amiss
in the Church, that the Lord would allow one of his temples
to be destroyed?
___
It is sad, but I seriously doubt anything unusual is amiss.
I think there was a construction accident.
Larry Jackson
Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to assume
that each one of us must seek confirmation of that message from God that
we are a righteous people and have favor in His eyes.
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:08 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I
listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to
assume
that each one of us must seek
I think the church as a whole is paying a lot more attention to the Book of
Mormon. I can't say what was happening before I joined it but I see a lot
of emphasis on it. Failure to read it on an individual basis is not a
collective matter.
Stacy.
At 11:44 AM 07/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:08 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I
listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to
assume
that each one of us must seek confirmation
At 10:44 AM 7/12/2003, Paul wrote:
John,
President Bensen is dead. What he said has no bearing anymore regarding
the direction and present condition of the Church, let alone the future
direction. This responsibility lies upon the shoulders of the current
leadership.
If the Church is still under
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 14:12:11 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 10:44 AM 7/12/2003, Paul wrote:
John,
President Bensen is dead. What he said has no bearing anymore
regarding
the direction and present condition of the Church, let alone the
future
direction. This
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:39:10 -0500 Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
[snip]
current
Prophet does not necessarily mean the curse is no longer in
effect.
Ok, ok. No need to roast me over the coals. ;-)
What has President Hinckley said about this stuff during his
Presidency?
John W. Redelfs wrote:
President Benson said the whole Church was under condemnation because
we don't properly value the Book of Mormon. Has that changed? I
don't think so, but I suppose I could be wrong. When I hear glowing
reports about the growth of the Church, and how well we are
Stacy Smith favored us with:
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to do to have
one's calling and election made sure, but I think many people, including
myself, would never be able to do it. What do I think it would take?
My list would be much shorter:
1. A testimony that
I can't say I've met all your list either. If I can't say I've met all
mine or all yours it looks like Jesus may have pity on me or I won't make
it either.
Stacy.
At 04:41 PM 07/12/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Stacy Smith favored us with:
I suppose I could make a list of what I think one ought to
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is
remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I
would venture that few there are that have sought after and received
this blessing that, according to 2 Nephi 31:17-18, is a requirement
before you are solidly on
Isn't that what we seek when we take the Sacrament?
Stacy.
At 08:54 PM 07/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Before one's calling and election is made sure, one key step is
remission of sins through the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. I
would venture that few there are that have sought after and
-Original Message-
From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Having One's Calling and Election Made Sure and the
Fact that Most
Isn't that what we seek when we take the Sacrament?
Stacy.
At 08:54 PM 07/12/2003
on this topic: Mosiah 4, Enos, 3Nephi
12:1-2, and one of my favorites, DC39:6.
I don't think it is the same thing.
Noel
-Original Message-
From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Having One's Calling
Stacy Smith:
All right. Let's get practical. If one hasn't the temple
marriage one wants I suppose it's fruitless to even try for
anything like this.
Larry Jackson:
I believe it would take a successful temple marriage.
Stacy:
But if one were to eventually get that and everything else
is your heart? Are you willing to
diligently seek him? Even in an apartment? That, I think, will make the
difference.
Noel
-Original Message-
From: Stacy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ZION] Having One's Calling
At 09:07 AM 7/11/2003, JWR wrote, regarding the book by Jon Krakauer
called, _Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith:
I doubt if I will buy the book, but apparently a great many others
will. It isn't going to do our missionary work any good.
I don't know John. I find that when
Is it a novel or nonfiction? Is there such a thing as an anti-Mormon
novel? Probably not, come to think of it.
Stacy.
At 07:07 AM 07/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Boy, this list is really dead, only 23 messages since June and none in the
last three days. I've never seen anything like it since
Stacy Smith favored us with:
Since the church has finally gotten involved in answering allegations,
according to the message below, it would appear, has this been an official
response and will the church officially answer the Tanners, etc.?
Yes, it is an official response from the Public Affairs
Stacy Smith wrote:
Is it a novel or nonfiction? Is there such a thing as an anti-Mormon
novel? Probably not, come to think of it.
=
Grampa Bill comments:
IIRC one of the very early (perhaps the first) Sherlock Holmes
novels had a very anti storyline. Anyone out
At 09:07 AM 7/11/2003, JWR wrote, regarding the book by Jon Krakauer
called, _Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith:
I doubt if I will buy the book, but apparently a great many others
will. It isn't going to do our missionary work any good.
Steven
At 07:07 AM 7/11/2003 -0800, The BLT wrote:
Apparently the book paints Mormons as latent killers because of their
tendency towards religious extremism.
If the guy really believed the premise of his own book, he wouldn't have
published it in the first place. Just think of all those millions
IIRC one of the very early (perhaps the first) Sherlock Holmes
novels had a very anti storyline. Anyone out there who can either
confirm or refute?
Yep, and I've read the novel. A Study in Scarlet (1887). The anti-Mormon stuff is not the focus of the book but prominence is given to the
Speaking of interesting reading, what about the recently discovered
Truman Diary. . .this morning a quote was read where he basically
lambasted Jews, saying they had nothing on Hitler or Stalin when it comes
to harming other people. Then he went on to say that any underdog who
rises to power
I'm surprised there isn't more anti-Mormon fiction, given all the
nonfiction stuff there is out there. Well, technically I guess it's all a
fiction but it's not in a fictional form which would be quite interesting
and laughable.
Stacy.
At 03:11 AM 07/12/2003 +0800, you wrote:
IIRC one
Jim Cobabe:
I wept when I learned of this sad news. Is something amiss
in the Church, that the Lord would allow one of his temples
to be destroyed?
___
It is sad, but I seriously doubt anything unusual is amiss.
I think there was a construction accident.
Larry Jackson
The Book of Mormon bears this out well. It was malice, not stupidity,
although it could be argued that malice is stupidity itself also, that
killed all the Nephites and led to their destruction.
Stacy.
At 12:00 PM 07/08/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I would like to examine an idea:
Never attribute
What a neat thing to be able to watch these little ducks! It does make you
nostalgic for when they were little and you could more easily protect them.
JWR, just from what I've learned about you and your wife over this
impersonal medium of email, I think you both have done the best you can to
Well, Paul, I prefer Mountain Dew. It isn't Coke, so I can still claim
to be holier-than-thou! ;-)
At least those of us who are painfully honest about our bad habits can
admit that we only like these drinks because of the things in them that
are bad for us -- empty calories, pure sugar,
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:33:21 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Well, Paul, I prefer Mountain Dew. It isn't Coke, so I can still
claim
to be holier-than-thou! ;-)
At least those of us who are painfully honest about our bad habits
can
admit that we only like these drinks
Heidi,
On the hallowed language issue-- you can lead a horse to water but you
can't make him drink. The General Authorities have constantly tried to
tell the Church to use the appropriate language. There is usually a
conference talk on this subject at least every few years. But these
members
Heidi Page:
Okay, we're in this new branch ...
Stay cool. Every ward and branch is different.
Am I just being too nit-picky here?
I don't think it really matters. About the only thing you
or I could do is set an example when called on to pray, or
include it in a lesson we might be asked
Are we prohibited from owning stock in Coca Cola?
Stacy.
At 03:01 PM 07/01/2003 -0800, you wrote:
The Mormons don't. They don't own Pepsi either. These are so-called
urban legends. If you are interested in who really does own Coca-Cola,
here is an interesting, short article.
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:24:33 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Are we prohibited from owning stock in Coca Cola?
Stacy.
Absolutely not. Drink up!
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The best thing to hit the internet in years
probably not, knowing my daughter
love
Jo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Topica Digest --
Re: hand shakes
By [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:51:51 -0400
From: Jon Spencer
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
So, did she
At 10:05 AM 6/24/2003 -0600, Uncle Ronn wrote:
I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many
germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can
build up its immune system and develop resistance to as many germs and
viruses as possible. For example,
At 07:15 AM 6/25/03 -0400, Elmer L. Fairbank wrote:
At 10:05 AM 6/24/2003 -0600, Uncle Ronn wrote:
Just for clarity: not me!
I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many
germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can
build up its immune
Jon Spencer wrote:
Just do what I said. Don't touch your face, and wash your hands before
sticking them into your mouth. By the way, from experience I can tell you
that this rule also applies to your feet.
Yes, by all means, wash your feet before sticking them in your mouth!
(be sure to check
Stacy and Scott: You might check out http://www.mendosa.com/index.html
for Rick Mendoza's excellent (beats even ADA's) updates on the world of
diabetes. What meter is best for me might not be best for you, and vice
versa. Rick has a HUGE group of comparisons. I preferred the painful
and slow
eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in
the temple.
But that's me...
Heidi the fair
Heidi Page
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Original Message]
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6/23/2003 9:52:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just
don't
worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially
when
it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord
will
protect
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just
don't
worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially
when
it pertains to performing ordinances, I just
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I
just
don't
worry about making hand contact
Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:54:56 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of
illness
and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or
news
topics.
What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line
Me too, Heidi.
Paul O
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:47:32 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am a big believer in hand washing. That might have something to do
with
the fact that my mother is a nurse. Anyhoo...I've spent a lot of
time
around children that aren't my own, and I rarely get sick.
Thanks for the towel tip. It leaves something else to throw away after one
has left the public rest room but I suppose it's a lot safer. I rarely get
sick--maybe once in the winter--with the exception of my current pleuritic
condition, and I suspect that was not from a virus.
Stacy.
Siblings, day-care attendance, and the risk of asthma and wheezing
during childhood.
Ball TM, Castro-Rodriguez JA, Griffith KA, Holberg CJ, Martinez FD,
Wright AL.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Arizona College of Medicine,
Tucson, USA.
BACKGROUND: Young children with older
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] hand shakes
It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat
in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite
glad. I don't want to shake hands
Very interesting stuff, although I never went to daycare. I think mine
might be caused by higher than normal ANA in the blood or rheumatoid factor
stuff.
Stacy.
At 03:39 PM 06/23/2003 +, you wrote:
Siblings, day-care attendance, and the risk of asthma and wheezing
during childhood.
Ball
Do you have any idea how often we were reminded to wash our hands? And
to keep breath mints handy, for when we worked at the veil? I started
carrying my antiseptic spray (used normally for cleaning before glucose
testing) or wipes.
You'll usually notice a fresh soapy smell (or a minty odor)
Stacy Smith wrote:
What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to ask if
they have washed them?
Just do what I said. Don't touch your face, and wash your hands before
sticking them into your mouth. By the way, from experience I can tell you
that this rule also applies to
Before glucose testing? I'd like to know more.
Stacy.
At 04:26 PM 06/23/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Do you have any idea how often we were reminded to wash our hands? And
to keep breath mints handy, for when we worked at the veil? I started
carrying my antiseptic spray (used normally for cleaning
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to
ask if
they have washed them?
Stacy.
It's just down right dirty, nasty, and germy. There just doesn't seem to
be a way out of it. H. Oh well;
Not too complicated. Before glucose testing, I spray the area I'm going
to puncture with the antiseptic. With my current glucose meter, I can
use my forearm rather than my fingers. Finger-sticking hurts!
*jeep!
--Chet
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:11:56 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I think that you are going to have to confess this email in your next temple
recommend interview.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31
touch that door handle. Ish!
Heidi the fair
Heidi Page
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Original Message]
From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6/22/2003 12:17:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
Antibacterial soap is no more effective than regular soap. Here's
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My hand shakes a lot too.
Whadda ya think we oughta do about it?
Stop spreading your nasty germs, Jimmyboy. ;-))
Did you know that I actually packed two cans of lysol spray on my mission
to London England!? No
At 04:45 AM 6/21/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My hand shakes a lot too.
Whadda ya think we oughta do about it?
Stop spreading your nasty germs, Jimmyboy. ;-))
Did you know that I actually packed two cans of lysol spray
At 09:59 PM 6/19/2003 -0400, Tom wrote:
There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a
prominent family. They teach in church, and especially within their
family, this doctrine. Seems that, according to them, some families
within Israel have been singled out for
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:45:39 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 04:45 AM 6/21/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My hand shakes a lot too.
Whadda ya think we oughta do about it?
Stop
At 10:40 AM 6/20/2003, you wrote:
It seems to me that the tradition of hand shaking is diminishing somewhat
in LSD social circles, the ones I'm in, that is. And for that, I'm quite
glad. I don't want to shake hands with anyone, quite frankly. It's just a
germy thing to do and it should be
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern
tradition of
greeting is not followed then.
Why? What do they do?
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 10:48 AM 6/21/2003, you wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern
tradition of
greeting is not followed then.
Why? What do they do?
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Holy (Or, I suppose
At 11:12 AM 6/21/03 -0600, Steven Montgomery wrote:
At 10:48 AM 6/21/2003, you wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern
tradition of
greeting is not followed then.
Why? What do they do?
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:12:56 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Holy (Or, I suppose unholy, depending on who is performing the
action)
Kiss: Luke 22: 47-48, and then Romans 16:16, 1 Cor. 16: 20, 2 Cor.
13: 12,
1 Thess. 5: 26, and finally 1 Peter 5: 14.
This is a
Ronn wrote:
Paul, maybe you should consider carrying around one of those big squirt
bottle of that anti-bacterial hand gel and use it every time immediately
after you shake someone's hand . . . and hope you never get called as
Sacrament meeting door greeter . . .
I would rather shake hands
Y'know, this thread wouldn't have been half as fun if we hadn't watched
*Monk* last night. g
*jeep!
--Chet
Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
are doing the impossible.
The best thing to
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:21:49 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kiss: Luke 22: 47-48, and then Romans 16:16, 1 Cor. 16: 20, 2
Cor.
13: 12,
1 Thess. 5: 26, and finally 1 Peter 5: 14.
This is a charter violation. ;-)
Quoting scripture?
That's right, wise guy.
The
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:35:22 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul, you can get bottles of the anti-bacterial stuff that is the
right
size for your pocket or your wife's handbag, and they have a flip
top.
Either that, or you can carry around those individually-wrapped
anti-bacterial moist
also
don't believe that the Lord needs a band of Samurai warriors ready and
willing to kill whomever the Lord wants killed.
Do you? Really?
Jon
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From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:58 AM
Subject: Re
Well ..
As I have been fully qualified for all ordinanaces and supervisory positions
in the Temple other than the Baptistry, all I can say is that this doctrine
is certainly not taught there. We don't teach it in Seminary. It is not
taught in Sunday School. It hasn't been taught in General
It seems to me that here are certain places where hand shaking or similar
actions are vital for our salvation!
Jon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] hand shakes
It seems to me that the tradition
seldom
got sick. Those who got sick seldom did.
Jon
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From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:29:45 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship
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Paul
I know. Isn't it too bad we're often plagued with their legacy?
Stacy.
At 04:12 AM 06/20/2003 +0800, you wrote:
The Danites did exist but were neither condoned nor organized by Joseph
Smith. They were bad guys. Anyone who wants to know more can either use
Google, or if that gives too many
Maj Tom Merrill wrote:
...according to them, some families within Israel have been singled
out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside
to rule and reign over the rest of us.
What is the opinion of the group?
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Grampa Bill comments:
Reading the
This doctrine of the election of grace is as follows: As part of the
new song the saints will sing when they 'see eye to eye' and the
millennial era has been ushered in will be these words, 'The Lord hath
redeemed his people, Israel, According to the election of grace, Which
was brought to
At 05:38 AM 6/20/03 -0700, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote:
Maj Tom Merrill wrote:
...according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out
for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule
and reign over the rest of us.
What is the opinion of the group?
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