[Zope] newbie question: parameter passing for ZSQL Object

2000-05-25 Thread zope
Hi. With some values that I got from a formular, I wan't to do some calculation stuff, and insert the calculated values into a database. My Z SQL method'insertItem' looks like Arguments: param1, param2, param3, param4 INSERT INTO plan (field1, field2, field3, field4) VALUES (, , , ) (parame

[Zope] Re: Zope

2000-05-25 Thread thomas
[forwarded to the list for archival] If you're running FreeBSD, try starting zserver by hand first before you connect. For some reason, FreeBSD can't seem to start it thru the pcgi wrapper. -Th On 25 May, James Cummings wrote: > I was looking in the mail list archives...and I saw the problem

[Zope] Re: zdconfera - where is it?

2000-05-25 Thread Paul Browning
--On Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:32 PM +0100 Phil Langton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been using Confera but want to get email notification working. > In desperation I've downloaded and installed ZDiscussions 2.0 and > ZDbase, zDiscussions and ZDConfera 1.0.0. > > The ZDiscussion is workin

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
"Jonothan Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here's a reference that dropped from Google when I asked "corruption > > concurrent microsoft access database" > > > > http://dgl.com/dglinfo/1998/dg980825.html (half way down page) > > > > I wouldn't use Access with Zope. > > Sounds like a b

Re: [Zope] ZScheduler

2000-05-25 Thread Loren Stafford
Graham, Thanks for sending all the info. I haven't had a chance to check it all out. But I want to ask one more thing: did you install the patch to client.py as mentioned in CHANGES.txt and http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZScheduler/ZSchedulerWiki/BugReports ? -- Loren - Original Mess

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace
Roman Milner wrote: > For zope, you will just have to > "know zope" - employers will see "zope" and a language just like > parents see "understanding computers" as knowing how to fix their windows > boxes :) I feel like I "know zope", but I don't have a deep understanding of python, or a compreh

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Eric W. Sink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Everitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope [snip] > Maybe it's about "scripting languages vs. Java". > > Sad to say, a majority of

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace
Chris Withers wrote: > Check out: > http://www.zope.org/Members/mindlace/MailZopeMan > > I like these ideas a lot, but I'd prefer to see the low-level email > integration done seperately, so it can be used for other things. I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration" > My dream

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Karl Anderson
mindlace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If it helps any, it should be obvious by now that zope is from the emacs > school and not the vi school. Check out the flamefest on comp.emacs a few years ago when someone tried to introduce rudimentary perl scripting support to emacs. Very similar to this

Re: [Zope] Zope on mac

2000-05-25 Thread srl
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Terry Kerr wrote: > Has anyone successfully run zope on a mac? What OS was used? The last time I tried that, there wasn't a pthreads-equipped Python available, and so Zope wouldn't work on it. This was with OS 8.5 though. I should think that MacOS X, since it's based on a

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Gibson
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 11:24:17AM -0700, Michel Pelletier wrote: > Zope doesn't ship with any components written in SQL, it is probably the > case that it won't ship with any components written in Perl. Also, this > is through the web style perl methods ala PythonMethods (I believe, I'm > not on

Re: [Zope] sequence-*

2000-05-25 Thread Curtis Maloney
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Graham Chiu wrote: > > Many of these variables cause problems for those starting out with Zope. > Why not create alternate names such as sequence_* and degrade the > former? > yeh, i suggested something like this some time ago. Perhaps we should make a bit more noise. Agre

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Denis Frère
Paul Everitt wrote: > > That's [the egg] quite a strained metaphor. I'll be pretty unequivocal. Anyone > that thinks we are lessening our commitment to Python (a) hasn't read > the FAQ before reacting and (b) doesn't know us very well. > > On the other hand, we'll likely do even more things li

[Zope] sequence-*

2000-05-25 Thread Graham Chiu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Many of these variables cause problems for those starting out with Zope. Why not create alternate names such as sequence_* and degrade the former? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiucompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Int

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Gibson
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 09:17:16PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: > > What are the benefits? > > - being able to use DBI when I have Zope Database connectors? > > - finally having people doing obfuscated perl contests again in their > > products, when I was just glad to having gotten rid of all t

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Roman Milner ]- | | Well, I don't think that analogy applies directly. People will ask, | "do you know zope", and in order to say yes - I will need to know | perl. The answer "yes except for the perl bits" won't fly with an | employer. | | Linu

Re: [Zope] Zope on mac

2000-05-25 Thread J. Atwood
Not on a Mac that I know of. OS X is supposed to support it. J At 9:30 AM +1000 5/26/2000, Terry Kerr wrote: >Has anyone successfully run zope on a mac? What OS was used? > >terry > > >-- >Terry Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) >Phone: (03) 9563 446

Re: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Patrick Phalen
[Adam Clark, on Thu, 25 May 2000] :: Hope nobody minds a newbie perspective on this. :: :: I spent the last 4 years programming (and unabashedly loving) Perl, and I :: don't think adding Perl to Zope will attract a lot more people. The large :: scope of Zope and the similarities between Python

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
> Ooo Ooo - XSLT? > Presumably I should read your sentence as "You will have the option > of using Perl as well as XSLT methods pretty soon" and not "Thou wilt > need Perl to get XSLT methods" ? :) The former... see http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/UseCases __

[Zope] will the perl support be optional?

2000-05-25 Thread roman
I'm assuming that the perl support is a product and therefore we don't have to install it? ^Roman ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://li

[Zope] Re: incosistant behaviour.

2000-05-25 Thread Curtis Maloney
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Curtis Maloney wrote: > Greetings, > > I am experimenting with my first ZClass. I have inherited from > Renderable, and XMLDocument. I have added a few DTML Methods, including a > 'render' method. > > Testing has been all well and good, with pages displaying pred

Re: [Zope] No manage screen ?

2000-05-25 Thread Carl Robitaille
Hi, >Hi everybody, > >I have a really funny problem with Zope. > >I have a Zope application, for which I have no longer the management >screens. If I try to see app/manage, I see the index_html method of app. > >Any idea ? If someone is interested I can send him the code. > >Many thanks Peop

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Anthony Baxter
>>> Ken Manheimer wrote > (Do you think the perl folks are, conversely, going to feel they have > to know python? I have to say, i esteem python enough to think that > the ultimate result will be increasing prevalence and preference for > python.) I think it's fair to say that I'm not one of per

Re: [Zope] Add property ?

2000-05-25 Thread Curtis Maloney
On Fri, 26 May 2000, calvin33 wrote: > > Normally : >"folder_F.object_O.manage_addProperty(id,file,content_type)" > > How to change "object_O" with another variable "var_V" ? > > I'm assuming you want object_O to be specified elsewhere? Now, this

Re: [Zope] incosistant behaviour.

2000-05-25 Thread Curtis Maloney
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Tres Seaver wrote: > Curtis Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I am experimenting with my first ZClass. I have inherited from > > Renderable, and XMLDocument. I have added a few DTML Methods, > > including a 'render' method. > > > You are up against a

[Zope] RE: problems with NTUserFolder.

2000-05-25 Thread Jay, Dylan
I see how it works now. I installed jcNTUSerFolder but couldn't get it to work. I thought it did the challenge response stuff for me. I didn't realize it had to go behind IIS. I'll give it a try. > -Original Message- > From: Jephte CLAIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 2

[Zope] Add property ?

2000-05-25 Thread calvin33
 Normally :   "folder_F.object_O.manage_addProperty(id,file,content_type)"   How to change "object_O" with another variable "var_V"  ? 

Re: [Zope] Re: ZWiki Problems on Zope.org

2000-05-25 Thread Simon Michael
"Rik Hoekstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I mailed you last week about changing the wiki_page_url method to > absolute_url. I did some experimenting with the method this week, > but found myself using things _very_ much like absolute_url > (URL1+parents+currentobjectid). You mentioned using abs

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Ken Manheimer
On 25 May 2000, Roman Milner wrote: > > "KM" == Ken Manheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > KM> I have some misgivings with this outlook. It sounds like > KM> people who seek job security by having expertise with a system > KM> that closes out unfamiliar options - whether the

RE: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread Amos Latteier
> I'm sorry, but I have to say, the ZOPE documentation, despite efforts > to improve it, is absolutely, positively horrible. Not because the > content isn't there, but because the tools to access it simply suck. > I can type in searches on both zope.org and zdp.zope.org and though I > KNOW the in

RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Michael Oas
Actually, I'd like to see Zope interface with "more" languages (Java, C++ etc.) There are a number of areas that Python performs poorly (I'd prefer to write encryption algorithms in C, personally) and there are areas where Python performs very well (OO modelling). I think if people are upset tha

[Zope] Zope on mac

2000-05-25 Thread Terry Kerr
Has anyone successfully run zope on a mac? What OS was used? terry -- Terry Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adroit Internet Solutions Pty Ltd (www.adroit.net) Phone: (03) 9563 4461 Fax: (03) 9563 3856 Mobile: 0414 938 124 ___ Zope maillist - [E

[Zope] ZopeDub-Babylon mix

2000-05-25 Thread Jason Cunliffe
"... By the rivers of Babylon We sat down...Ahh Waiting for Zian ..." [ZopeInANutshell] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zo

Re:[Zope] A similar issue with Perl for Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Jason Cunliffe
Michel Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Jon Udell wrote: > > > > BTW, there is essentially no difference between VBScript, JavaScript, > > PerlScript, or PythonScript when used at this level. All can make the > > same CreateObject call,

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
> "KM" == Ken Manheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KM> I have some misgivings with this outlook. It sounds like KM> people who seek job security by having expertise with a system KM> that closes out unfamiliar options - whether the options are KM> better or worse. I'm not i

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Daryl Tester
"Eric W. Sink" wrote: > After all, a web developer who is a Python > fanatic chooses Zope for its underlying language. [Sh|H]e is unlikely > to react warmly to the stench of Perl and the hideous possibility that > a customer might develop the expectation that Zope and Perl expertise > would go h

[Zope] Architectural questions

2000-05-25 Thread Roberto Faria
Hi everyone, I have recently joined a small software development team in South Africa comprising of the best object people in the country. We have been tasked to build a financial supermarket using the numerous distribution channels including the web, fax, email, wap. I am currently investiga

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Ken Manheimer
On 25 May 2000, Roman Milner wrote: > Well, my point is that I don't think you will be able to ignore it. > Your boss will give you a product to maintain that includes someone > else's perl code - sooner or later. Since it is "part of zope" and you > clearly "know zope" you should be able to mai

[Zope] Calling PythonMethods from PythonMethods.

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Drees
How does one do this? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/

[Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Adam Clark
Hope nobody minds a newbie perspective on this. I spent the last 4 years programming (and unabashedly loving) Perl, and I don't think adding Perl to Zope will attract a lot more people. The large scope of Zope and the similarities between Python and Perl mean that I've spent a whole lot more ti

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
> "HK" == Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: HK> Some of its most significant features (Aquiition, HK> ExtensionClass) are even written in C and mess with guts of HK> python interpreter. HK> See for example PostgreSQL - it has C, SQL, PL/SQL, TCL, Perl, HK> Ruby an

Re: [Zope] SiteAccess and Subdomains

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: J. Atwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > sitemap="{'subdomain.domain.com': 'subdomain'}"> > Do we have a match? > > Set the logical root: > Add physical root: > > The [-2:] chops off all but the last two elements of the domain name, so you're comparing "domain

[Zope] A similar issue with Perl for Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Jon Udell wrote: > > BTW, there is essentially no difference between VBScript, JavaScript, > PerlScript, or PythonScript when used at this level. All can make the > same CreateObject call, and diddle the controlled app's object model in > the same ways. It ends up not being a language issue at al

Re: [Zope] Images and tag tag

2000-05-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
peter writes: > I use the nifty Image object and an extra tag to it. > like this > > > But what I want to do is this: > ONMOUSEUP="document.bgColor='#FFCCFF'" SRC="myimage_gif" width=118 height=77 > border=0> > > I have tried > > This is not supported the tag tag. Only border, widt

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
Heiko Stoermer writes: > Zopistas, > > Paul Everitt wrote: > > > > Digital Creations, creators of the Open Source Zope application server, > > announced today that it is teaming with ActiveState, a leading provider > > of > > Internet programming software, to make Perl a scripting langua

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Hannu Krosing
Kevin Dangoor wrote: > > > I haven't heard of anyone standing up and saying "I'm not going to use > Linux, because people might write tools in perl [or awk, or C, or lisp, or > sh, or yacc or postscript, or ...]" Perhaps that's a better way to look at > Zope... not as a python web application, b

[Zope] Patch for SQLSession / Zope 2.2a

2000-05-25 Thread Jeff K. Hoffman
Hello, I am using SQLSession with Zope 2.2a, and ran into some bad juju with ZopeSecurityPolicy. Trying to access any of the methods on SESSION (has_key, clear, etc.) would fail with an Unauthorized exception. Following Brian Lloyd's lead, I've made the following patch to SQLSession.py. It seems

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
> "KD" == Kevin Dangoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KD> I think Zope offers a ton of features that I wouldn't want to KD> give up. (And I've been watching what the other servers out KD> there are doing, and I still appreciate the power given by KD> Zope.) I don't question at

[Zope] Re: ZWiki Problems on Zope.org

2000-05-25 Thread Simon Michael
Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martijn Pieters wrote: > > How did you get to that URL? It has 'NewUserPortal' in there twice. If I > > remove the redundant 'NewUserPortal/' part of the URL, everything works fine. > > Chris "d'Oh!"s quietly to himself and goes to hide in a corner... >

Re: [Zope] Count specific objects

2000-05-25 Thread Rik Hoekstra
>In subfolder "ref_links" I have a another folder called myLinksandURLs >(which actually is a product called URL Directory). >In that folder (myLinksandURLs) there are a couple of objects called Simple >URL derived from the product called URL Directory. > >I now want to count the number of 'Simp

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Eric W. Sink
Digicool's announcement of some Perl support for Zope obviously surprised a lot of people. I haven't seen much positive reaction here on the list. In fact, I daresay I have seen some concerns which I consider to be quite valid indeed. After all, a web developer who is a Python fanatic chooses Z

[Zope] Re: Count specific objects

2000-05-25 Thread Jonothan Farr
> How do I tell the _.len function to count how many objects exists in a > specific folder? "_.len(somefolder.objectIds())" --jfarr ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encod

[Zope] Count specific objects

2000-05-25 Thread peter
In subfolder "ref_links" I have a another folder called myLinksandURLs (which actually is a product called URL Directory). In that folder (myLinksandURLs) there are a couple of objects called Simple URL derived from the product called URL Directory. I now want to count the number of 'Simple URL'

[Zope] monitoring Zope with daemontools

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Frank Tegtmeyer writes: > About two months ago there was a discussion about monitoring the Zope > processes. Someone mentioned daemontools of Daniel J. Bernstein. > > Because I use daemontools for several other applications I tried it with > Zope too. > > See my article at > http://www

Re: [Zope] Properties

2000-05-25 Thread Rik Hoekstra
>Is there any way to manipualte properties outside of the Zope >management area? Yes, you can do it using the manage_addProperty method from dtml (or from Python/External Methods). In the same vein you can change them programmatically. > >I have a lot of properties I need to add to a certain do

[Zope] Re: Perl and Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Tom Neff
As one of the original Perl Hackers I agree that this irrational Perl Hate Minute stuff is silly. To some extent language preferences are religious, but that doesn't mean we need a holy war! My response to the "I emigrated penniless from my home country rather than use Perl, now you want to prof

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Chris Withers writes: > I like these ideas a lot, but I'd prefer to see the low-level email > integration done seperately, so it can be used for other things. What do you mean by low-level email integration? If you mean actual SMTP server stuff, I think this is a bad idea for two reasons: perf

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Roman Milner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed > Here is why I'm bummed about this. Like other people who have posted > - after years of codin

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Jeff K. Hoffman
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > "Jeff K. Hoffman" wrote: > > Python 1.5.2 (#3, Mar 8 2000, 16:34:52) [C] on sunos5 > > Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam > > >>> > > >>> f = 1. > > >>> f > > 2.0 > > >>> int(f) > > 1 > > >>> >

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Jonothan Farr
> Here's a reference that dropped from Google when I asked "corruption > concurrent microsoft access database" > > http://dgl.com/dglinfo/1998/dg980825.html (half way down page) > > I wouldn't use Access with Zope. Sounds like a bug in the Access UI not the underlying Jet DB engine. --jfarr

[Zope] monitoring Zope with daemontools

2000-05-25 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
About two months ago there was a discussion about monitoring the Zope processes. Someone mentioned daemontools of Daniel J. Bernstein. Because I use daemontools for several other applications I tried it with Zope too. See my article at http://www.lightwerk.de/zope/monitoring if you are interes

[Zope] Multiple Zopes syncronized?

2000-05-25 Thread Paul Abrams
Hi all, Any ideas on how to keep multiple Zopes synchronized? Here is the scenario: 1) I've got two Zope machines with identical ZODB's. 2) I want a method call on one Zope that changes its ZODB to also make the same change to the other Zope. 3) The number of methods that need synchronization i

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Martijn Faassen wrote: > > J. Atwood wrote: > > Stunned. Totally and utterly stunned. I would have thought there > > would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? > > Jeeze... what a great but very scary thing. I trust that DC will do > > it right. > > I'd agree with the scar

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >From the python int doc string: > > >>> print int.__doc__ > int(x) -> integer > > Convert a string or number to an integer, if possible. > A floating point argument will be truncated towards zero. I _always_ get bitten by this :( Sorry for my igorance, Chris

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
"J. Atwood" wrote: > > The real question is: Can we get all those Perl people to help with > our documentation? :) I hope so. > I, for one, will welcome my Perl brothers (actually sent the ANN > post to two of them five seconds after reading it) and hope that > together we can bring Zope to e

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Bill Anderson
"J. Atwood" wrote: [...] > There are tens of thousands of Perl programmers out there, just think of all > the cool things they write (especially if they found a better tool). I hear this repeated, but no one explains why they will convert? When they get to stay in perlland, they don't actually

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
"J. Atwood" wrote: > > Gang (and Paul), > > I guess my major concern (and mosts) would be that one of the reasons > we like Python/Zope/OO is that it is not Perl and does not have all > that quirky structure and if you introduce Perl into Zope it would be > like throwing a pair of red socks in

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Bill Anderson
Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: > > Chris Withers wrote: > > > I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like > > drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl > > programmers on board, you suddenly have a large userbase wishing they > > can do more in perl,

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:44:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > int() works fine (truncating everything behind "."): > > >>> t.timeTime() == 953146937.0 > 0 > >>> t.timeTime() - 953146937.0 > -4.76837158203e-07 > >>> int (round (t.timeTime())) > 953146937

[Zope] SiteAccess and Subdomains

2000-05-25 Thread J. Atwood
I am trying to get SiteAcess to work with a subdmain.. So I have added an empty SiteRoot in the /subdomain folder and added a DTML Method Do we have a match? Set the logical root: Add physical root: But am not getting any anything (still just points to the root. Help? Thanks, J _

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 06:48:51PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: > "Jeff K. Hoffman" wrote: > > Python 1.5.2 (#3, Mar 8 2000, 16:34:52) [C] on sunos5 > > Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam > > >>> > > >>> f = 1. > > >>> f > > 2.0 > > >>> int(f) >

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
"Dan L. Pierson" wrote: > The perfect solution involves a mailing list server integrated with > Zope, e.g. ZMailman. This would probably also provide mailing list > archives integrated with Zope and ZCatalog and easy integration of > mailing list and PTK/Squishdot discussion traffic. This has be

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread jq-zope
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>> t.timeTime() > 953146937.0 > >>> int( t.timeTime() ) > 953146936 < This is wrong > >>> int( 953146937.0 ) > 953146937 > > Any ideas on how this can be happening. Stepping through the DateTime module > yields the sensible return valu

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
"Jeff K. Hoffman" wrote: > Python 1.5.2 (#3, Mar 8 2000, 16:34:52) [C] on sunos5 > Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam > >>> > >>> f = 1. > >>> f > 2.0 > >>> int(f) > 1 > >>> > the int() function takes a different code path and returns 1, c

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
Here is why I'm bummed about this. Like other people who have posted - after years of coding perl for money, I have vowed never to do it again. (I find that it produces encourages unmaintainable code.) Also, I think my main marketable skill now is Zope. So, were I to want to find a different j

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Kevin Dangoor writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Kevin Dangoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication) > > > > I think

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace
Zopistas, This argument is all very funny. Why is it bad to be able to answer someone when they say "i use this perl script on my site, I want to use it in zope"? I would personally like this for little regexp programs. What matters is that 90% of the old-school web sites use perl as their glue

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Sutherland
<--lots 'o' stuff snipped--> Here's my opinion.. Zope is a structure or enivronment.. The reason thet DC gives you the ability to create products is because they don't want to do it all themselves.. If they want to open it to Perl/Java/ etc, more power to them, more products for us to use.. The

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Jeff K. Hoffman
On Thu, 25 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:56:48PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: > > > > Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe > > all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, > > available in the public CVS

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Dangoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication) > I think plain mailhosts will do the sending thing quite

Re: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Patrick Phalen
[Webmaster, on Thu, 25 May 2000] :: A few weeks ago I went to an Allaire Spectra seminar (Spectra is Allaire's :: $15,000 Zope). It was a very nice presentation and the fundamental :: principles were quite similar. I have played around with Spectra and I found :: it to be super clunky with way

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Shane Hathaway wrote: > Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe > all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, > available in the public CVS repository. And will be in 2.2? Chris ___ Zope maill

Re: [Zope] new to zope basic questions

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Michael Douglass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:04 PM Subject: [Zope] new to zope basic questions > just started working through the zcmg document from the zope site & have > already found a question i cant answer.

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:56:48PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: > > Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe > all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, > available in the public CVS repository. > > Shane > I don't understand how your

Re: [Zope] Acquisition?

2000-05-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
Chris Withers wrote: > > I just ended up using this analogy to explain aquisition to someone and > wondered whether it might be helpful to others: > > Aquisition is to a tree of objects what inheritence is to a hierarchy of > classes. > > Is this accurate? To me, acquisition is very near "dyna

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a previous posting about Netscape Image problems I mentioned a weird > interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime(). I can reproduce the error > within the python interpreter as follows- > > Python 1.5.2 (#5, Jan 6 2000, 17:10:24) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314

[Zope] Acquisition?

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
I just ended up using this analogy to explain aquisition to someone and wondered whether it might be helpful to others: Aquisition is to a tree of objects what inheritence is to a hierarchy of classes. Is this accurate? Chris ___ Zope maillist - [E

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Alexander
Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > > > If the phantom 'perl userbase' could 'hack into the core' and put perl > in there, why would they wait for perl methods to become available first? > > They would have implemented PerlZope long before this. http://www.bgw.org/projects/pas2/ -- Steve Alexander

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Kevin Dangoor wrote: > I hadn't seen this one before. Since Zope is getting a Membership component, > I think we'll need a good, solid way to send great big bunches of email to > Members. I'm not sure if you've thought about this aspect or not. I believe > it is a different function with different

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] syndication?? > http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/ZopeEmail/FrontPage I hadn't seen t

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, John Chandler wrote: > then educate people as to how to use YNPLOC in > a way that matches the Zope philosophy. Ha, "educate people"! Educate people not to use Windows? Educate them at least not to be beaten by ILOVEYOE virus? Anyone succeede in this educating? > It's not

[Zope] AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName() not always truthful in ZWiki

2000-05-25 Thread Geoff Gardiner
I am using ZWiki and have modified a footer to show the current AUTHENTICATED_USER. It lies - occasionally but consistently. I am logged in as TestUser, and have a page footer that shows me as TestUser. I create a new ZWiki page by editing the current page and adding NewPage, then navigating to t

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Dangoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope > Ke

[Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
In a previous posting about Netscape Image problems I mentioned a weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime(). I can reproduce the error within the python interpreter as follows- Python 1.5.2 (#5, Jan 6 2000, 17:10:24) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs- on linux2 Copyright 1991

RE: [Zope] Using relational DB for ZODB storage

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Ivan... Hi, It's a "grassroots" effort. Jonothan Farr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is heading up the project, and I'm helping. We've gotten a few prototype versions up and running using MySQL and Interbase, but I'd say we're a few weeks away from being able to release an alpha. You can get more inform

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Chris Withers wrote: > I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like > drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl > programmers on board, you suddenly have a large userbase wishing they > can do more in perl, so you implement perl products. (yes, I've r

[Zope] Using relational DB for ZODB storage

2000-05-25 Thread Ivan
Greetings, I am looking for ways to use a relational database (Solid, and possibly Informix) as a storage for ZODB objects. According to the ZODB How-To, development on a relational DB storage manager is taking place. However, I don't know what is the current state of this project, how I can obt

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
> > I find the whole 'perl will pollute us' mentality quite disappointing, > > it's worse than a bunch of school girls arguing over which all boy > > band is best. > > You never seen blokes arguing over which girl band is best ;-) It's a coin flip between Kittie and L7 IMHO, anyone who disagrees

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Chris Withers wrote: > I agree though since it's a moot point anyway. It's going to happen now That's why I stopped to argue. Let's wait and see. There are already so many Bad Things in computer industry this one wouldn't make things much worse. > and we just have to live

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
This will be my last mail on this.. strong opinions ahead, and they aren't representative of anybody but me. > I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like > drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl > programmers on board, you suddenly have a large u

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