Re: [Action2] STATUS - Documentation

2006-05-07 Thread Don Brown
Wow, Ted this is looking great! I really like the new organization, as it is very easy to follow. I especially appreciate the work you've put into the Tutorial section, as that has always been a weak area in the WW docs. Patrick, we need to get that snippet macro working with the new

Re: svn commit: r404856 - /struts/action2/

2006-05-07 Thread Don Brown
Wendy Smoak wrote: I organized action2 into the usual branches/tags/trunk structure, and added it to the 'current' external. Then I noticed a few jar files as things scrolled by during an update. Can any of these be removed? ~/svn/struts/current/action2 $ find . -name *.jar

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.3 Quality

2006-05-08 Thread Don Brown
I vote for Beta, due to the missing TLD from the tiles jar. Otherwise, I think it is GA quality. I believe Wendy is going to roll 1.3.4 in the next day or so, so everyone _please_ test this release and report problems _before_ 1.3.4 so we can have a smooth GA vote. Thanks Wendy, Don

Re: [action2] Shared IDEA configurations

2006-05-08 Thread Don Brown
Patrick should jump in here, but I believe he's set it up so that you can generate your IDEA configuration from Maven automatically, so we don't have to have checked in files. http://confluence.twdata.org/display/WW/Building+with+Maven Don Ted Husted wrote: Moving forward, I'd favor

[ANN] Announcing the Struts Action 2 Project

2006-05-08 Thread Don Brown
The Apache Struts project and the members of the OpenSymphony WebWork 2 project are coming together to create the next-generation action-based web application framework, Struts Action 2. Since the merger announcement, the WebWork 2.2.2 code has successfully passed the Apache Incubator to seed the

Re: [ANN] Announcing the Struts Action 2 Project

2006-05-08 Thread Don Brown
Yeah, I hadn't done that previously as I'm not sure my poor server could handle the load, and the fact ASF infrastructure is balking at running a live Confluence doesn't add confidence :) Don On 5/8/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/8/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Website

Re: Struts Action 1.3.4 Release Plan

2006-05-09 Thread Don Brown
Wendy Smoak wrote: The jar manifests now have 'Apache Struts Action 1 Framework' as the Specification-Title. (Change struts/action/pom.xml if you prefer something else.) The more I think about it, the more I don't like this title. I think it should be: Apache Struts Action. Action 2 should

Re: Struts Action 1.3.4 Release Plan

2006-05-09 Thread Don Brown
Action Framework 2. Let it be settled then. Don Ted Husted wrote: In the documentation, we've been referring to Struts Action Framework 2 to correlate with the common acronym SAF2. I would agreed that there's no obvious reason to retrofit the numeral to SAF. -Ted. On 5/9/06, Don Brown [EMAIL

Re: Struts Action 1.3.4 Release Plan

2006-05-09 Thread Don Brown
Michael Jouravlev wrote: Don't we want to learn on others' mistakes? Or this *is* a plan for Struts, to rename SAF2 to SAF sometime? I agree with our historical approach to this: let time decide. If Struts Action 2 is widely accepted and supplants 1 in terms of usage and developer activity,

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-10 Thread Don Brown
GA - This looks really good Wendy, thanks again for the hard work! Don Wendy Smoak wrote: The Struts Action Framework 1.3.4 Test Build is available to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease134 The test

Re: [VOTE] Release Struts Build v1.0.1

2006-05-10 Thread Don Brown
+1 too, while there are always improvements to be made, this looks good enough for a release. Thanks again! Don On 5/10/06, Greg Reddin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1. Thanks for all your hard work on this build stuff :-) Greg On May 10, 2006, at 3:24 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote: In advance of a

[ANN] Struts BOF Wednesday, 5:30 PM, at JavaOne in the Pavilion

2006-05-10 Thread Don Brown
We will be having an unofficial Struts BOF at JavaOne with the purpose of discussing the technical directions of the Struts project. I intend this to be more of a working group meeting and discussion than a presentation, so please come prepared to discuss roadmaps and hammer out feature ideas

Re: [ANN] Struts BOF Wednesday, 5:30 PM, at JavaOne in the Pavilion

2006-05-10 Thread Don Brown
and the conclusion arrived at. That would really help people who can't make it catch-up. Thx rgds - Original Message From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 11 May, 2006 12:18:02 AM Subject: [ANN] Struts BOF Wednesday, 5:30 PM, at JavaOne

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-10 Thread Don Brown
I didn't know we decided to change that, as it has repercussions all throughout the Maven build. I'm fine with us changing it for the next release, but I certainly don't think it should stand in the way of this one. Don Joe Germuska wrote: This seems like the smallest of things, but the

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-10 Thread Don Brown
Normally, I'd agree with you but: a) This is the latest in a succession of very recent releases so little has changed (last one was Sunday) b) Theoretically people test during that week, but in practice few do. Seems people don't pay attention until a vote is called We can always recall a

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-11 Thread Don Brown
Niall Pemberton wrote: To summarise then my vote is beta because I believe I think we're introducing an uncessaey PITA for users upgrading and it will increase questions on the user list and put additional load on the Apache Servers. I absolutely disagree. To be GA quality, it doesn't have to

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-11 Thread Don Brown
Joe Germuska wrote: I have taken some time to check out the 1.3.4 version today - upgrading my webapp to this version (was on 1.2.9) and the only other issue(s) I came up with is that we used to distribute things like the validator-rules.xml config and taglib tlds in the lib directory. I

Re: SAF2 Support for Java 1.4

2006-05-11 Thread Don Brown
This is great news! Thanks for the detailed writeup, as it is very encouraging to see a project that was designed purely for 1.5 was able to be so quickly transformed to run on 1.4. Please keep us posted with any additional issues that arise. Don Tim Fennell wrote: Hi All, I remember a

Struts release process is broken (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-13 Thread Don Brown
Craig McClanahan wrote: However, I would be unhappy with all of us other committers if we stopped testing 1.3.4 at all, until 1.3.5became available, and we surface yet another two line change next week. This is exactly why I think this release process, or least least the Struts PMC

Re: Meet Up in San Francisco 2006

2006-05-14 Thread Don Brown
There was talk about the Geronimo party, afterwards at the W. Otherwise, Tuesday evening at the Thirsty Bear after the blogger meetup would work nicely. The beer-drinking bof is traditionally organized by Van, and he's been pretty busy lately. Don Peter Pilgrim wrote: Hi Guys I just here

Re: [Action2] Dojo 0.30 released... Time for an update?

2006-05-14 Thread Don Brown
Sounds good to me...I'll give it a try today Don Rainer Hermanns wrote: Hey, just saw that Dojo released version 0.30. Our Dojo support in SAF/WW 2.2.x is currently based on the outdated 0.21 release. Shouldn't we update the embedded Dojo release and try to get our ajax tags running

Re: Meet Up in San Francisco 2006

2006-05-15 Thread Don Brown
Actually, if you wouldn't mind, I need a ride too. My flight comes in at 3:50 so 5:45 would work great for me. If you have room, Wendy Smoak might also be interested in catching a ride. Yes, yes, we'd all owe you a beer or two :) Don David Evans wrote: This may seem a little off the wall,

Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-16 Thread Don Brown
What I dislike is spending untold personal hours fixing all known issues and putting out a release, only to have it continually shot down, not available to anyone. Specifically: 1. Our release plan states we only make GA's available on the mirrors and from the download page, so anything less is

Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-17 Thread Don Brown
On 5/16/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't cast a quality vote on anything but a tagged and rolled, downloadable distribution. Many of the problems we've had in the past (not just this time, but with other series too) appear in the final product and are not evident in a checkout.

Re: Release Process thoughts (Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality)

2006-05-17 Thread Don Brown
On 5/17/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Ted and Paul that we should only vote on the actual signed distribution that's going to be uploaded. It's easy to imagine accidentally introduce a problem when you're building the final distribution. I wouldn't be comfortable

[action2] Build broken

2006-05-18 Thread Don Brown
I'm getting compile errors trying to build action 2. Toby, is there any code you haven't committed yet? Don [INFO] Compilation failure /home/mrdon/dev/struts/action2/core/src/main/java/org/apache/struts/action2/components/Form.java:[44,42] cannot find symbol symbol : class

Re: [action2] Build broken

2006-05-19 Thread Don Brown
to be in the local repository, the compilation for action2 should work. I'll try it my local machine. It seems to be ok the last time I tried it. But let me just double check. :-) Do post back with your findings Don. Thx. - Original Message From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers

Re: svn commit: r408129 - in /struts/action2/trunk: apps/showcase/ apps/showcase/src/main/java/org/apache/struts/action2/showcase/jsf/ apps/showcase/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/ apps/showcase/src/main/web

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
Yeah, I had a problem with that one. I found it in some maven repo, but Maven 2 wasn't pulling it down, so I had to install it manually. Are you saying I just had the group id wrong? Don Wendy Smoak wrote: What repo is MyFaces coming from? On ibiblio it looks like the groupId for v1.1.2

[action2] Combining JSF and SAF2

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
After talking with several on this list about the possibility of combining the best of JSF and Action 2 in a unified framework from a user perspective, I have completed a first cut at JSF support in Action 2 with this loftly goal. From a user perspective, you still have one configuration

Re: [action2] Combining JSF and SAF2

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
Jason Carreira wrote: Great work Don! This is very cool. I've been saying we could do this for a long time, but it's good to know I wasn't just making that up :-) Heh, I know. After bragging about it after many beers at JavaOne, I figured it was time to put up or shut up :) I think it's

Re: [action2] Maven Snapshots

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
Wendy Smoak wrote: I published snapshots with 'mvn deploy': http://people.apache.org/maven-snapshot-repository/org/apache/struts/action2/ What about 'extras'? It seems like the profile needs to be split up. Right now if I do 'mvn deploy -P extras' it's going to upload the both

Re: [action2] Combining JSF and SAF2

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
is forced an you, making it very easy to override or set other defaults as needed. Don Good work in any case Don, I look forward to seeing this polished! Frank Don Brown wrote: Jason Carreira wrote: Great work Don! This is very cool. I've been saying we could do this for a long time

Re: [action2] Combining JSF and SAF2

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
that possibility, more or less. Just curious, because I've only done one Webwork project thus far, and it's relatively basic, so I didn't have a need for this capability. Frank Don Brown wrote: Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I've been historically pretty anti-JSF, so I hope this means something in light

Re: XWork 2, JDK 1.5

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
Agreed. Are we going to move XWork to Subversion for 2.0 or stick with CVS for now? Don Jason Carreira wrote: So on the plane home I was able to get some work done. Well, first I had to set up lots of libraries for the extras and showcase modules, since maven didn't set them up, but then

Re: [action2] Maven Snapshots

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
It is acceptable to distribute CDDL code in binary form, so RIFE isn't a problem. Don Rainer Hermanns wrote: Regardless, showcase should be split up so we can ship a functional app with no LGPL problems. Don, I just removed the deps on JasperReports which were the last real LGPL code

Re: [action2] Combining JSF and SAF2

2006-05-21 Thread Don Brown
In the Action 2 approach, you should be able to use any feature of Shale, or any other JSF extension, that doesn't involve a custom NavigationHandler, since that is overridden to defer to Action 2-style navigation, or a custom Lifecycle. By leaving JSF alone otherwise, you should be able to

Re: XWork 2, JDK 1.5

2006-05-23 Thread Don Brown
For the 2.0 XWork branch, why not branch off 1.x so we can keep trunk for current development? This way, we don't have to change our current checked out code :) Don Patrick Lightbody wrote: Let's leave XW at OpenSymphony for now - as we know there is a lot of work to be focussed on when

Re: [Action2] cwiki outage

2006-06-04 Thread Don Brown
Sorry, it should be fixed. We just arrived in Sydney from New Zealand, and you wouldn't believe how hard it is to find a computer that allows ssh out (log file filled up and shut down apache). Don The SAF2 wiki seems to be down. It's a rainy day here, and I might get a chance to do a nip of

[action2] Optional Interceptors (Re: Apps dependencies)

2006-06-08 Thread Don Brown
The root issue is how to handle optional interceptors. Currently, I believe we do print out stack traces, but only at a debug level, and the processing of the configuration continues. I'd like to be able to include optional interceptors in the struts-default.xml file, as it makes it easier

Re: [SAF2] Tossing an idea around: PDFResult

2006-06-08 Thread Don Brown
The Jasper result was in fact transitioned to Struts Action 2, however, it was moved to the extras module. ASF is ok with us shipping code that depends on LGPL jars as long as: 1. The jars aren't included in our distribution 2. The default build doesn't automatically retrieve the jars 3.

Re: [action2] /s /xwork.xml /action.xml

2006-06-08 Thread Don Brown
The webwork renaming issue goes deeper than just those 3 or so files and affects things like template variables, the static resources prefix, the dojo package, etc. Currently, they have all be renamed to 'struts' consistently, however if we switched to 'struts-action' or even 'action', I'm not

Re: [action2] /s /xwork.xml /action.xml

2006-06-09 Thread Don Brown
it drop, as we have other fish to fry. -Ted. On 6/9/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The webwork renaming issue goes deeper than just those 3 or so files and affects things like template variables, the static resources prefix, the dojo package, etc. Currently, they have all be renamed

[action2] Struts Action 2.0.0 Issues

2006-06-09 Thread Don Brown
I changed the JIRA version to 2.0.0 and have started to pair down the actual tickets we are signing up to resolve for 2.0.0. Please go through the list of those improvements moved to Future and see if there are any you'd be willing to tackle for this release. Also, I'll be moving items from

[action2] Proposal: Remove explicit support for action!method syntax

2006-06-11 Thread Don Brown
With XWork now supporting wildcards in xwork.xml, I think it is time to remove the explicit support for the fooAction!barMethod.action syntax. From a reading of our tickets, the legacy support for that syntax is affecting the framework in strange ways, and now that we have wildcards, they can

Re: [action2] Proposal: Remove explicit support for action!method syntax

2006-06-11 Thread Don Brown
a more ReST-ful appearance. Don Bob Lee wrote: I finally understand wildcards! Can you give an example of using more than one wildcard in an action name? Bob On 6/11/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With XWork now supporting wildcards in xwork.xml, I think it is time to remove

Re: [action2] Proposal: Remove explicit support for action!method syntax

2006-06-12 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: On 6/11/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? We used the ! idiom extensively in the WW MailReader and WW CookBook in the sandbox. I'll update those for the latest build to see how effective if the wildcard workaound. Are we going to introduce wildcard support

Re: [action2] Struts Action 2.0.0 Issues

2006-06-12 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: On 6/9/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'll be moving items from our TODO lists over to issues so be prepared for more emails :) Which TODO lists? I'm thinking of all the rough spots and that short list of features on the release plan. This JIRA report [1

Re: [action2] Struts Action 2.0.0 Issues

2006-06-12 Thread Don Brown
work! Don Ted Husted wrote: On 6/12/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of all the rough spots and that short list of features on the release plan. I setup issues for the short list, but not every rough spot. Anyone who is ready, willing, and able to work on any of the others

Re: [action2] Proposal: Remove explicit support for action!method syntax

2006-06-12 Thread Don Brown
What do you mean? Every action would have the option to use this pattern. How would we set it as the default for all actions? Don Patrick Lightbody wrote: Don, I'm totally in favor of that, but only if we make sure that struts-action-default.xml (originally webwork-default.xml) includes

Renaming XWork packages (was Poll: What part of a Struts...)

2006-06-13 Thread Don Brown
What about doing what Sun does with Xalan for Java 5 and rename XWork packages? With the changes we are making to XWork 2.0, I don't think it will co-exist with WebWork 2.2.2/3 very well, if at all. Therefore: com.opensymphony.xwork will become:

Re: Renaming XWork packages (was Poll: What part of a Struts...)

2006-06-13 Thread Don Brown
:01 PM, Don Brown wrote: What about doing what Sun does with Xalan for Java 5 and rename XWork packages? With the changes we are making to XWork 2.0, I don't think it will co-exist with WebWork 2.2.2/3 very well, if at all. Therefore: com.opensymphony.xwork will become

Re: Renaming XWork packages (was Poll: What part of a Struts...)

2006-06-13 Thread Don Brown
I'd be fine with that too. Don Patrick Lightbody wrote: How about com.opensymphony.xwork2? :) - Posted via Jive Forums http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=34229messageID=66656#66656

Re: Renaming XWork packages (was Poll: What part of a Struts...)

2006-06-14 Thread Don Brown
Very tempting if it wasn't GPL :( Don Bob Lee wrote: We should use jarjar: http://tonicsystems.com/products/jarjar/ Bob On 6/13/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about doing what Sun does with Xalan for Java 5 and rename XWork packages? With the changes we are making to XWork 2.0

Re: svn commit: r414249 - /struts/action2/trunk/core/src/main/java/org/apache/struts/action2/components/GenericUIBean.java

2006-06-14 Thread Don Brown
Don't forget to associate a JIRA ticket with each commit to make it easier to track changes in a release... :) Thanks, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: tmjee Date: Wed Jun 14 06:48:08 2006 New Revision: 414249 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=414249view=rev Log: - added javadoc

Re: [jira] Created: (WW-1348) Setup Nightly Builds of SAF2

2006-06-14 Thread Don Brown
I'm fine with combining the tasks as long as they are all resolved in one fell swoop. Considering we generally have little spare time to work on open source projects, I'd like to see tickets at a level of granularity that it only requires a few hours to resolve them, avoiding the basically

Re: Renaming XWork packages (was Poll: What part of a Struts...)

2006-06-14 Thread Don Brown
be distrubuted. If it's a big issue, I'm sure we can talk Chris into something. Chris? On 6/13/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very tempting if it wasn't GPL :( Bob Lee wrote: We should use jarjar: http://tonicsystems.com/products/jarjar

JIRA tickets for each commit (was Re: svn commit: r414249...)

2006-06-14 Thread Don Brown
to create a jira issue even if its just changing some javadoc, like typo or snippet id is wrongly assigned etc.? regards. - Original Message From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 15 June, 2006 1:16:48 AM Subject: Re: svn commit: r414249 - /struts/action2

Re: svn commit: r414249 - /struts/action2/trunk/core/src/main/java/org/apache/struts/action2/components/GenericUIBean.java

2006-06-14 Thread Don Brown
] wrote: Okie dokie. Thx for the reminder. Do we need to create a jira issue even if its just changing some javadoc, like typo or snippet id is wrongly assigned etc.? regards. - Original Message From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@struts.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 15 June

Re: [action2] action2 snapshot build

2006-06-16 Thread Don Brown
Craig McClanahan wrote: While looking into this, I noticed that the pom.xml for action2 still has two references to http://cvs.apache.org that need to be switched to http://people.apache.org. Mind if I go ahead and change them? Please feel free. Thanks, Don Craig Craig Just like

Re: [action2] Removal of AroundInterceptor and doXXX support from xwork

2006-06-18 Thread Don Brown
My only concern is WW 2.2 migrations. If it will require them to perform significant work (more than a simple rename), we should just deprecate the feature and perhaps throw a warning. Otherwise, I think we should remove it. Don tm jee wrote: Hi guys, Just want to confirm something. Is

Re: [action2] Upgrade Dojo toolkit

2006-06-19 Thread Don Brown
At 10:11 AM -0700 6/19/06, Martin Cooper wrote: I've had a ghost of an idea in my head that you could put a Servlet in front of Dojo and serve it out of a JAR so that you had a more clear idea of what was in the release -- I've never been too comfortable with unpacking the distro and putting

Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-20 Thread Don Brown
As Shale and Action zero in on their first GA release, I don't think it is too late to ask the question, Does Struts really need two frameworks? We have been putting out the message, two frameworks, one community, for almost a year now, but I still sense a lot of confusion and even rejection

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-20 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: As for making the UI tags an independant extension, a al Tiles, that sounds good too. (Even better if we include the value added Ajax support.) But I don't know if we want to hold back the SAF 2.0.0 to make it happen. But, for phase 2, sure! Actually, I'm thinking splitting off

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
on that particular playground. Craig McClanahan On 6/20/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Shale and Action zero in on their first GA release, I don't think it is too late to ask the question, Does Struts really need two frameworks? We have been putting out the message, two frameworks, one community

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
subprojects: Shale, Action 2, and Action Tags. Don Don Brown wrote: Craig, thanks for your honesty and candor. I know this is a delicate topic, and I appreciate you approaching the topic openly. A couple of clarifications: 1. I'm not proposing Shale _ever_ depend on Action 2, only that they should

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
Tim O'Brien wrote: There is obviously a good deal of exchange, but the frameworks compete (not my words). While this may be true politically, from a code perspective, I completely disagree. Just about every feature of Shale, AFAIK can easily be used with Action 2: Spring integration, clay,

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
You make a lot of good points, and a strong argument for rallying around the JSF flag. To this end, Shale is a great idea and provides a nice realization of this approach. Undoubtedly, there are many developers who think similarly and may not ever be interested in the Action 2 controller, and

Re: Package UI Tags and/or Themes Separately from the SAF2 Core (was Re: Does Struts ...)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
it to drive even the example applications. If we are worried that the AJAX themes might be a hold-up, then perhaps it may be the AJAX themes that we want to package separately. Can we treat themes like Maven or Eclipse plugins? -Ted. On 6/21/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I'm thinking

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
for web development needs. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 6/21/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this is why Shale needs to continue, and I'd argue, continue to exist as part of the larger Struts community, and a step further, under a larger Struts 2.0 product. I think despite providing multiple

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
Craig McClanahan wrote: On 6/21/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm suggesting something bigger: Struts 2.0. This release will come with SAF2, Shale, Tags, and maybe Action 1.x for legacy reasons. We would continue to develop SAF2, Shale, and Tags, but the world would just need to see

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: If we wanted Struts 2.0 to be a true omnibus product, then it should include a data access solution, a data indexing solution, a menuing solution, a security solution, a wizard solution, and an (even better) AJAX solution. We're not even coming close to bundling everything a

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Don Brown
Paul Benedict wrote: I don't see the point in bundling Shale into a Struts 2.0 distribution. No offense to anyone who develops Shale, but when we have packages called action2, it makes it pretty clear Shale is not Struts 2.0 -- only the action framework. Separate frameworks, imo, get different

doDefault replacement? (was [jira] Created: (WW-1360) Remove AroundInterceptor and do* method support)

2006-06-23 Thread Don Brown
://confluence.twdata.org/display/WW/Issues+and+Solutions Peter Pilgrim wrote: Don Brown (JIRA) wrote: Remove AroundInterceptor and do* method support --- Key: WW-1360 URL: http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-1360 Project: Struts Action 2

Re: 1.x - DTD Attribute Proposal

2006-06-25 Thread Don Brown
Martin Cooper wrote: These views, I suppose, would logically be pages if Struts were a page-based controller. But I do find this kind of use-case always cropping into my apps, and one of my biggest problems is that when I do a save or cancel, I have no automated stack that tells me what my

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-26 Thread Don Brown
Interesting...I can see you have put a lot of time and thought into this. My first pass seems to find this a cross between the portlet api and JSF. What I saw missing from the articles and wiki pages is a higher level justification: - Why not just use portlets? - Why not just use JSF? -

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-26 Thread Don Brown
similar to what we are planning for Tiles. I'm fine with the event dispatching part of your proposal, but I'm not convinced a new component framework should be added to Struts Action 1 core. Don Michael Jouravlev wrote: Don, thanks for replying. See inline. On 6/25/06, Don Brown [EMAIL

[PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
With the departure of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
Wendy Smoak wrote: On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/action subversion directory as https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/framework, keep the other top level directories the same What do you think of... repos/asf

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
I'm against official code names. We have had enough confusion in Struts with different names meaning different things, and we shouldn't pile on more names. If folks want to off-hand use code names, that's fine, but to have them used in code or documentation is too far. Version 1 and 2 are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2 Or repos/asf/struts/framework repos/asf/struts/framework2 I like struts1/struts2. Don -Ted.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
[implied: 1] have version numbers higher than 1.x? (theoretically yes, but that would be bizzare) On 6/28/06, Bob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for Struts 2.0 Bob On 6/28/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the departure of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea

Re: Localization Bridge (was Re: Thoughts on 1.3.x)

2006-06-30 Thread Don Brown
If Struts 1 decided to go with Cintoo, I think it would be good for Struts 2 to adopt it as well, as it would make migration easier, and reduce the number of differences between the two versions. I'd like to take that approach with other areas like validation and annotations in the future.

Re: Struts JIRA Roadmap

2006-06-30 Thread Don Brown
You need to click on the All Versions link, as JIRA thinks those three are the next versions to be released. Don Paul Benedict wrote: Does anyone know how to setup the roadmap on JIRA so we can see all the fixed/outstanding defects that are going into 1.3.5? Right now the roadmap contains

Re: The build seems to be broken...

2006-06-30 Thread Don Brown
That's a file I put in xwork, but it says it was checked in. I'll look into it more later when I get home. Don Bob Lee wrote: Missing AbstractInterceptor. Anybody have any clues? Bob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Struts renaming changes

2006-07-01 Thread Don Brown
You might have noticed a bunch of commits, working to rename Struts Action to Struts and adjust our builds and public site accordingly. The new web page is currently in the processing of synching with the public server. When that is done in an hour or so's time, please check out the public

Re: Struts renaming changes

2006-07-01 Thread Don Brown
each commit with its ticket (WW-1367 and STR-2898) so it should be easy to track. Don Don Brown wrote: You might have noticed a bunch of commits, working to rename Struts Action to Struts and adjust our builds and public site accordingly. The new web page is currently in the processing

Re: Struts renaming changes

2006-07-01 Thread Don Brown
been tagging each commit with its ticket (WW-1367 and STR-2898) so it should be easy to track. Don Don Brown wrote: You might have noticed a bunch of commits, working to rename Struts Action to Struts and adjust our builds and public site accordingly. The new web page is currently

Re: [VOTE] Release the struts-master pom v3

2006-07-05 Thread Don Brown
+1 James Mitchell wrote: +1 -- James Mitchell On Jul 5, 2006, at 1:05 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote: It's time to release version 3 of the struts-master pom: * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/maven/trunk/pom/pom.xml This is the master pom from which struts-parent inherits, and it needs

Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2898) Rename Struts Action 1 to Struts 1

2006-07-05 Thread Don Brown
for the user to guess and remember. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 7/1/06, Don Brown (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rename Struts Action 1 to Struts 1 If we are using struts1 and struts2 for the repository folders (which is fine with me), why are we using 1.x and 2.0 for the website folders? * http

Re: API Doc Title

2006-07-05 Thread Don Brown
I think you are over-thinking this one. Struts is a single product with multiple versions. Since both are still developed, at times, it is helpful to refer to Struts 2.0 as Struts 2 and Struts 1.x as Struts 1, but these names are really optional and a tool to help clarify versions. In the

Website version handling (was [jira] Created: (STR-2898) Rename Struts Action 1 to Struts 1)

2006-07-05 Thread Don Brown
isn't and shouldn't be versioned. This is the code in struts/site. The versioning discussion is regarding the generated site docs from each Struts version. In summary, I think the solution you propose solves all the issues nicely. Don Ted Husted wrote: On 7/5/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED

Sharing code between versions (was [jira] Created: (STR-2898) Rename Struts Action 1 to Struts 1)

2006-07-05 Thread Don Brown
, with action (1.x) and action2 (2.x) being specific implementations. Well, not that the renaming is done, I think we have no normal way of sharing code across packages. Thoughts? -- Paul Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/1/06, Don Brown (JIRA) wrote: Rename Struts Action 1 to Struts 1

Re: Sharing code between versions (was [jira] Created: (STR-2898) Rename Struts Action 1 to Struts 1)

2006-07-06 Thread Don Brown
release. Don Craig McClanahan wrote: On 7/5/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question. Here are the options of the top of my head: - Jakarta Commons project - Put it in Struts 1.x, since Struts 2 will probably have 1 has a dep for migration code - Create new Struts Commons

[s2] Taglib prefix

2006-07-06 Thread Don Brown
With the ditching of the name Struts Action Framework went our saf: taglib prefix. For the new one, I want to use simply s:, but I thought I'd run it by everyone first. Also, please review the outstanding tickets and see if any are missing, or better yet, see if any you'd be willing to fix.

Would like to remove Ant build from Struts 2

2006-07-07 Thread Don Brown
I'd like to remove the Ant build from Struts 2. I don't think it has worked for a little while and the new Maven 2 layout discourages it for any complex builds. Unless someone seriously wants to put the effort into keeping it up, I think it should be removed. Don

Re: [jira] Resolved: (WW-1376) Struts configuration files should be named struts.xml, not xwork.xml

2006-07-10 Thread Don Brown
XWork so Struts 2 users don't use XWork directly at all? Thanks, Gabe - Original Message From: Don Brown (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: issues@struts.apache.org Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:21:16 AM Subject: [jira] Resolved: (WW-1376) Struts configuration files should be named struts.xml

Re: svn commit: r420556 - /struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/main/resources/struts-2.0.dtd

2006-07-10 Thread Don Brown
I thought about it, but this follows the xwork naming convention, something that migrating users will care about. Also, I always thought using underscores was unintuitive, but if others feel strongly about it, it could be changed. Don Wendy Smoak wrote: On 7/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Would like to remove Ant build from Struts 2

2006-07-10 Thread Don Brown
the effort. Any developer whom needs to patch the source is going to be able to handle maven. Just my .02. Cheers, Eric On 7/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Brown proposed: I'd like to remove the Ant build from Struts 2. I don't think it has worked for a little while

Re: Test failures...

2006-07-11 Thread Don Brown
You need to clear your local copy of xwork, most likely. Don Bob Lee wrote: Anyone know what's causing this? I grepped for com.opensymphony.xwork. and ConfigurationProvider but the culprit wasn't immediately clear. --- T E S T S

Re: [maven] URIs on sub-sites

2006-07-11 Thread Don Brown
The web site directory already matches the artifact id, IIRC. I thought your original complaint was about how Maven dealt with the /1.x prefix. Don On 7/11/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's (somehow) related to the

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