I always thought the French treated you better if you at
least made an
attempt at speaking French, live and learn.
No, they hate you even more for trying to mock them.
They are a very odd group of people.
In their defence, I don't think they are any odder than the rest of us.
in Brisbane
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob
W
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2010 6:28 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
I always thought the French
[...]
The worst example of refusal to even try was the English
family I encountered who had been in Paris for a week, only
ever shouted at the French in English, and complained that
they hadn't eaten any decent food since they had been there:
One of my non-francophone friends complains
On 2/28/2010 4:47 PM, Bob W wrote:
On 2/27/2010 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote:
Bill,
Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA.
I don't have any trouble taking pictures here.
How about you in Canada?
Canada is the Great Nylon
New York London are the
On 2/27/2010 9:18 PM, David Savage wrote:
On 28 February 2010 06:14, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy
On 2/27/2010 11:29 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
February 2010
Bill, I love you man, but you know, you can be a total dick, maybe
it's coloring your perception. He was being
This kind of thing /might/ even be justified if they actually managed to
catch an actual terrorist once every great while.
On 2/27/2010 1:29 PM, Cotty wrote:
While we're on the subject, here's another one:
http://tinyurl.com/fanciedfishnchips
Video as well, half-way down on the left. This is
: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
February
2010
The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy with the attitude, and
that's why he was tossed in a cell.
Could you quote me the statute that says having an attitude is against
the
law?
I'd like to read it.
I'm calling
On 2/27/2010 3:07 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk
Sneaky photographers...
Actually, that guy's been rather lucky. I've been stopped by the French
police in Dunkirk, last xmas, taking one of my
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
I always thought the French treated you better if you at least made an
attempt at speaking French, live and learn.
No, they hate you even more for trying
- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
I am loyal to the country that has guaranteed my freedom.
There is a difference between unwavering loyalty and unquestioning
obeidience.
William Robb
:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
I am loyal to the country that has guaranteed my freedom.
There is a difference between unwavering loyalty and unquestioning
obeidience.
William Robb
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On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Careful Bill or you might find some surprises on the unquestioning
obedience/civil disobedience issues. Some of us are children of the
'60's and were in Chicago for the '68 Democratic Convention fuss.
Regards, Bob S.
I was at the Battle of
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:22:03 -0600
Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
Careful Bill or you might find some surprises on the unquestioning
obedience/civil disobedience issues. Some of us are children of the
'60's and were in Chicago for the '68 Democratic Convention fuss.
I remember the
On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Subash wrote:
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote:
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a
On 28 February 2010 03:35, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Now, I'm a middle
class, middle-aged, mild-mannered white guy. How do you think they react to
young Muslim lads who want to take a few pictures?
Bob
They'd respond like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McB9tsabPn0
On 28 February 2010 04:32, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I'd like to have seen him try it in 99% of other countries. His head would
have been lumpier than school custard.
Which is one reason why living in the free world is suppossed to be
better than living in 99% of other
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From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a friend of mine has been accosted
by
the police
:
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a friend of mine has been accosted
by
the police twice
On 2010-02-27 15:32 , Christine Aguila wrote:
3c) Folks who sympathize with the photograrapher are assuming the
photographer is telling the truth about him *just out taking pictures,
minding his own business* and that he wasn't using his camera in an
anti-social manner (whatever that
On 2/27/2010 9:15 PM, David Savage wrote:
On 28 February 2010 06:13, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
As a point of principle I suppose I agree that stop
On 2/27/2010 1:11 PM, David Savage wrote:
On 28 February 2010 02:02, David Savageozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 February 2010 19:17, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 26/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think you're 100% wrong on this, Cotty. I refer you to
On 2/27/2010 1:40 PM, Cotty wrote:
On 28/2/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Fremantle, Australia.
Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few
photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any
particularly strange looks (we do silly
On 2/27/2010 11:42 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror'
arrest,February 2010
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega
Iran and a strong Soviet presence in the middle
On 2/27/2010 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote:
Bill,
Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA.
I don't have any trouble taking pictures here.
How about you in Canada?
Canada is the Great Nylon
New York London are the Great Nylon
Canada is the Great Beaver Pelt
On 2/27/2010 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote:
Bill,
Aren't we the Great Satin or what down here in the USA.
I don't have any trouble taking pictures here.
How about you in Canada?
Canada is the Great Nylon
New York London are the Great Nylon
Canada is the Great
- Original Message -
From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Yup Bill, my prejudice. If your driving an old rust bucket/beater,
you're somebody I'd want to keep an eye on. :-)
Interesting perspective.
Considering what
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Just after 9/11 I was out at 2:AM shooting some fisheye night shots. I'm
standing on a deserted street corner across the street from the local Post
Office
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Every government meddles in every other countries governmemt some are just
more direct and have more power.
And look how it comes back to bite you
- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping
today.
Paul, you may not like hearing this, but a lot of times, you already
On Feb 28, 2010, at 6:55 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010
Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping today.
Paul, you may not like
- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
Don't you ever tire of this? Bed time for Billy.
Nope.
I think you are a time zone ahead of me, perhaps Paulie should get his
little mammy to put him
On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:46 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February 2010
Don't you ever tire of this? Bed time for Billy.
Nope.
I think you are a time zone ahead of me
On Feb 28, 2010, at 05:37 , William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
February 2010
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com
wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
Of course. But if no one ever intervened, we'd all be goose stepping
today.
Paul, you may
, 2010, at 05:37 , William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, a friend
On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Subash wrote:
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
Of course. But if no one ever intervened
If I were casing for a terrorist attack I wouldn't be using an SLR, I
either use a Cell Phone camera or the biggest baddest looking Video
camera I could find complete with support truck and assistants, and try
to look like an indie film crew. I doubt the cops would hassle either.
Your tax
On 2/27/2010 2:43 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
February 2010
My advice is to stock up on collectible spoons while you can...
Or move to Canada.
A friend of mine here has
I'd use google maps street view.
DS
On 27 February 2010 16:19, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
If I were casing for a terrorist attack I wouldn't be using an SLR, I either
use a Cell Phone camera or the biggest baddest looking Video camera I could
find complete with support
Cotty said:
Sorry but that guy was being a total dick.
Since when is standing up for your rights being a total dick just as a by
the way sort of question?
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- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
The world did change after 9/11 but it didn't make governments any less
stupid.
Are you sure? Most governments have done a very good job of whipping people
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:55:13 -0600
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Subash
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
February 2010
nature and got what was coming to him - because the police can.
It's not the same
On 2/27/10, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
elsewhere all along, and i would just like to say that both al qaeda
and saddam were creations of the US in their proxy wars against the
former USSR and Iran respectively. one has to be really naive to play a
politics of convenience and not
On 26/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think you're 100% wrong on this, Cotty. I refer you to Willcock vs Muckle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Henry_Willcock
The PCSO in that film was an idiot, which is to be expected of PCSOs. The
policewoman was bang out of order, abusing
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:16:46 +0800
Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/27/10, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
elsewhere all along, and i would just like to say that both al
qaeda and saddam were creations of the US in their proxy wars
against the former USSR and Iran
On 27/2/10, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed:
Cotty, IIRC, this is the third or fourth time on the list you've said
something like that, that it's no longer the same world or something to
that effect. i would like you to expand on that, if you may. am just
curious to know what exactly you mean
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Anyone who says the world changed after 9/11 should be prepared to justify
exactly what sort of threat the big camera represents that a cell phone
camera or PS camera doesnt.
I think your premise is wrong. The threat comes from smaller
On 2/27/2010 3:40 AM, William Robb wrote:
Cotty said:
Sorry but that guy was being a total dick.
Since when is standing up for your rights being a total dick just as a
by the way sort of question?
William Robb
Bill, I love you man, but you know, you can be a total dick, maybe it's
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's not the same society. A VERY BAD THING happened on September 11, 2001,
and ever since then, governments have been using it as an excuse to
consolidate power.
Perhaps they see the really big camera as a threat, perhaps they just see
the
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Since when is standing up for your rights being a total dick just as a by
the way sort of question?
Nothing wrong with standing up for your rights at all - I do it
regularly. The bloke in the Youtube video was being adversarial about it
and
On 27/2/10, Subash, discombobulated, unleashed:
if governments thrive by creating paranoia, on a first reading at
least, Cotty's post appeared to me as evidence of the fact that they've
succeeded quite well.
I do not read the same out of what I wrote as you do Subers. I am not
paranoid - I
On Feb 27, 2010, at 6:29 AM, Subash wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:16:46 +0800
Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/27/10, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote:
elsewhere all along, and i would just like to say that both al
qaeda and saddam were creations of the US in their proxy
[...]
Unfortunately in England you no longer have a right to
personal self defense, so only the Cops can legally protect
you. That probably is coloring his perceptions.
You do have the right to self defence here, but it's not really germane to
this particular discussion.
Bob
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I think you're 100% wrong on this, Cotty. I refer you to
Willcock vs Muckle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Henry_Willcock
The PCSO in that film was an idiot, which is to be expected
of PCSOs.
The policewoman was bang out of order, abusing her authority. The
photographer
[...]
The policewoman was bang out of order, abusing her authority. The
photographer appears to know his rights rather more than
most of us do,
so presumably was deliberately pushing for this to happen, just as
Willcock did in 1951, but somebody needs to put a stop to
this type of abuse
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Hmm - there is nothing in the above para that I disagree with except the
abuse of authority bit. If the police have the power to stop and search
under a lawful act, how
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Simply that the idea that someone may not be photographing just for
personal pleasure anymore - and in fact may be pursuing a line of
illegality - eg recce
[...]
You have just justified the Holocaust.
There goes the thread...
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Tell you a story. I was filming in the centre of a city and
we had finished and I was putting my kit away in the back of
the land rover. As I drove away I noticed a strange woman
looking at me and thought she was just staring because I was
pulling out perilously close to her car or
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
I think your premise is wrong. The threat comes from smaller cameras and
cell phones just as much as big cameras. It is the activity that
attracts attention, not the size of the camera IMO. YMMV.
Photographing in public places during public
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Bill, I love you man, but you know, you can be a total dick, maybe it's
coloring your perception. He was being a total dick, but that didn't make
the cop right
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Bill, I'm sorry but this is verging on paranoia. Get a grip man!
Paranoia doesn't mean that you are wrong, it can mean that you know you are
right
- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran
and a strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There's no way to flip
the switch
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Nothing wrong with standing up for your rights at all - I do it
regularly. The bloke in the Youtube video was being adversarial about it
and the result was always
On 2010-02-27 04:17 , Cotty wrote:
If the police have the power to stop and search
under a lawful act, how is that an abuse of authority?
it is exactly in how they choose whom to stop search that authority
can be abused
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Photographing in public places during public celebrations?
Photographing while brown?
Photographing architecture?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
There's an enormous difference between your story about your furry friend,
and the hassle that a lot of people get. In your case a woman reported her
suspicions
- Original Message -
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Photographing in public places during public celebrations?
Photographing while brown?
Photographing architecture?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y
Errrm
On 2010-02-27 00:55 , William Robb wrote:
The fact that in Britain a street photographer who has done no wrong can
be arrested for antisocial positioning of a camera should scare the
living shit out of anyone who leaves their home with a camera strap
around their neck.
or provoke us to do more
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:23:55AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
Why is photographing a building downtown subject to police harassment but
parking a car beside that same building not?
Because pictures of police misconduct frequently have direct career
consequences, *and* it's a deeply-absorbed
On 2010-02-27 04:40 , Cotty wrote:
I figured out what the lady had seen, I
have a microphone and holder with wind-gag that look like this:
http://tinyurl.com/notagun
and before it goes in the case the wind gag (the furry part) often needs
adjusting up tight (looks like a gun going into a
On 2010-02-27 09:29 , William Robb wrote:
I saw the video, at no time did I think the guy was disrespectful of the
cop, he just demanded that the cop justify her actions.
i felt the same way too -- he was polite, open and patient; interesting
the difference in perceptions here -- some see
On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:42 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror'
arrest,February 2010
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a
mega Iran and a strong Soviet presence
On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote:
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran and a
strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There's no way to flip the switch
and see what might have happened if Afghan and Iraq hadn't had U.S. support
back in the day.
On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote:
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a
mega Iran and a strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There's
no way to flip the switch and see what might have happened if
Cotty wrote:
On 26/2/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUan2DXBsk
Sneaky photographers...
Sorry but that guy was being a total dick. he was adversarial by nature
and got what was coming to him - because the police can. It's not the
same as it
On 2010-02-27 10:31 , P N Stenquist wrote:
On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote:
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega
Iran and a strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There's no way
to flip the
On 27 February 2010 19:17, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 26/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think you're 100% wrong on this, Cotty. I refer you to Willcock vs Muckle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Henry_Willcock
The PCSO in that film was an idiot, which is to be expected
On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:33 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-02-27 10:31 , P N Stenquist wrote:
On Feb 27, 2010, at 12:28 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2010-02-27 06:13 , paul stenquist wrote:
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a
mega
Iran and a strong Soviet
On 27/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
The stop and search powers are essentially the same as the sus law which was
repealed back in the 80s because it was abused to such an extent that it was
a major factor in the race riots of that time. The police abuse their
authority whenever they
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
The abuse then goes one level higher to the people who made the laws.
You have just justified the Holocaust.
Cheers bill.
I always did like smoky bacon crisps.
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On 28 February 2010 02:02, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 February 2010 19:17, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 26/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think you're 100% wrong on this, Cotty. I refer you to Willcock vs Muckle:
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
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From: Cotty
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
Someone seemingly 'acting suspiciously' (define that - ha!) in a crowd
environment is more likely to attract
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
I think your premise is wrong. The threat comes from smaller cameras and
cell phones just as much as big cameras. It is the activity that
attracts attention, not the size of the camera IMO. YMMV.
On 28 February 2010 02:15, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
and a guy with a camera gets tossed in a cell?
The guy with the camera suddenly became the guy with the attitude, and
that's why he was tossed in a cell.
WRT the video...
While I
On 27/2/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Paranoia doesn't mean that you are wrong, it can mean that you know you are
right and are concerned.
Hall of fame. mark!
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On 27/2/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
There's an enormous difference between your story about your furry friend,
and the hassle that a lot of people get. In your case a woman reported her
suspicions, the police followed up on the report, clarified that nothing
untoward was happening and
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:25:58PM -0500, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Feb 27, 2010, at 11:42 AM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror'
arrest,February 2010
I think that's true, but the alternative
While we're on the subject, here's another one:
http://tinyurl.com/fanciedfishnchips
Video as well, half-way down on the left. This is very near me.
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On 27/2/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
it is exactly in how they choose whom to stop search that authority
can be abused
Agreed - note your own words: 'can be'.
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On 27/2/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
so someone sees something that at a glance could be easily mistaken for
a pistol being stashed away; that's a totally different scenario than a
photographer openly taking pictures
I didn't say they were the same thing.
I said, tell you a
On 27/2/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:
i felt the same way too -- he was polite, open and patient; interesting
the difference in perceptions here -- some see such straightforward
behavior as being a dick ...
He was being a robot dick. He wasn't interested in having a
conversation,
On 28/2/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Fremantle, Australia.
Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few
photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any
particularly strange looks (we do silly looking things when we get
together).
The
On 28 February 2010 02:40, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 28/2/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
Fremantle, Australia.
Today I spent 5 hours wandering the streets of Fremantle with a few
photographer friends. We were very obvious, and we didn't get any
particularly strange looks
: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,February
2010
I think that's true, but the alternative may have been worse: a mega Iran
and a strong Soviet presence in the middle east. There's no way to flip the
switch and see what might have happened if Afghan and Iraq hadn't had U.S.
support
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: William Robb war...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest, February
2010
- Original Message -
From: Ken Waller
Subject: Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti
While we're on the subject, here's another one:
http://tinyurl.com/fanciedfishnchips
Video as well, half-way down on the left. This is very near me.
That's a great story - a perfect example of how warped their priorities have
become. They're called out because a gang of youths has thrown
The system didn't work.
Or more to the point, why does a guy who might have a gun
get a soft stop
Because there was intelligence that suggested otherwise -
research done before the stop - my website, my employer's
identity etc. It would have been far easier to do the hard
stop than
On 28 February 2010 03:00, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
what if you'd been about
to do a Michael Ryan?
As long as both parties are consenting adults, who are we to care or judge?
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