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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Hi Tom:
Sorry should have added the context. Intriguing as perhaps a better
common denominator than hydrogen itself. e.g. can be easily
transported; can be made from biogas; can power a fuel cell
directly or indirectly; relatively safe
That interview with Dr. Olah was a good read. Thanks Darryl.
From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:24 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Has anyone read Beyond Oil and Gas: The Methanol Economy?
Have you looked on drag racing forums about methanol for race fuel? And they
discuss the effects on the motor and modifications required.
Michele
On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Darryl McMahon dar...@econogics.com wrote:
Has anyone read Beyond Oil and Gas: The Methanol Economy?
I have not yet started in on racing forums, as I understand they use
100% methanol as fuel, and my interest is using a mix of methanol (up to
50% possibly) in order to avoid making engine modifications while not
sacrificing engine life.
The idea of the methanol energy economy is way beyond my
/2014 2:50 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Hi Tom:
Sorry should have added the context. Intriguing as perhaps a better common
denominator than hydrogen itself. e.g. can
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit, and these are effectively never granted to a home brewer.
I have been pondering the idea of using methanol (wood alcohol) as an
alternative to ethanol fuel, but have not taken the time to research it.
Has somebody
, November 26, 2014 4:03 PM
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit, and these are effectively never granted to a home brewer.
I have been pondering the idea
this information did not scar you off, but increased your curiosity.
Best
Jan Warnqvisr
-Ursprungligt meddelande- From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:03 PM
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In Canada, it is illegal
-Ursprungligt meddelande- From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:03 PM
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit
: Darryl McMahon dar...@econogics.com
Sent: 11/26/2014 10:03 AM
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
In Canada, it is illegal to produce ethanol for fuel without a federal
permit
sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Methanol is super intriguing… the amount of hydrogen per molecule.
From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:06 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
/2014 12:58 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Methanol is super intriguing… the amount of hydrogen per molecule.
From: Darryl McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, November 26
: [Biofuel] Methanol as a motor fuel
Hi Tom:
Sorry should have added the context. Intriguing as perhaps a better common
denominator than hydrogen itself. e.g. can be easily transported; can be
made from biogas; can power a fuel cell directly or indirectly; relatively safe
From: Tom
I am interested in finding out the going rate for Methanol these days.
I found a local distributor but they seem very over priced @ $600+ for a
55 gallon drum. Or $10.90 a gallon
Anyone know the going rate per gallon these days? I was expecting around
$200 for 55 gallons. Am I dreaming?
Corey
: [Biofuel] Methanol Prices?
I am interested in finding out the going rate for Methanol these days.
I found a local distributor but they seem very over priced @ $600+ for a
55 gallon drum. Or $10.90 a gallon
Anyone know the going rate per gallon these days? I was expecting around
$200 for 55 gallons. Am
In Alberta, you should be able to find 75 cents / L in drums. One or
2 outfits charge 60 cents but it is in Cube packs , or over 200
gallons per sale. I'm unsure because I suspect the 2 companies are
linked as in one owns the other , which makes them the same to me.
Where are you ? I could find
Hey Tom et al;
I think I might have a new solution for our woes re. re-use of
methanol. Rather than trying to dry it for re-use in making BD we might
be able to just use it for fuel. This local dude who is way into
performance diesels comes into my place last night to talk about BD
Propane is also used, but metanol would be more controlable and less
volitale.
From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol recovery;
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:52:11 -0500
Hey Tom et al;
I think I might
Hey allhere is a good price! 1.80/gallon, here is the link
http://www.methanex.com/products/methanolprice.html
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:41:05 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: [Biofuel] Methanol SuppliersHi all,I need a better supply of
methanol. My local supplier
to be used
as fuel. I feel that's not so bad. But that tax issue is a whole different
subject.
_
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Dunn
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:41 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Suppliers
Hi
Hi all,
I need a better supply of methanol. My local supplier is charging
$5.75/gallon. AND, I have to call ahead so they can re-package it. Can
anyone point me to a better source in south central Pennsylvania? Or, I
suppose, I'd be willing to have it shipped but, I'd prefer to buy as
to make
yourself...).
Jason
ICQ#: 154998177
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From: Thomas Kelly
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Jim,
Bad news.
I don't think
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom: A friend who mixes windshield wash commercially uses 35% in the
winter. That is plenty strong for Montana, but if he uses that strength he
does not have to worry if the temp goes below -10F by several degrees.
Paul
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing as biofuels
production are increasing sharply. Is it valid to assume prices
have gone up do to pressure on demand not cost build up reasons?
VEry best
Chic
VAN
: PAUL MILLER
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom: A friend who mixes windshield wash commercially uses 35% in the
winter. That is plenty strong for Montana, but if he uses
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:33 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Help if you can.
I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150+
gallons of windshield
of methanol.
Tom
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom;
I think washer fluid typically contains 20 to 40
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*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2006 9:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Hi Tom;
I think washer fluid typically contains 20 to 40% alcohol but I
notice that on the cold days if I use the lower percentage the
fluid can momentarily
wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive
heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is
more difficult and costly.
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From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase
Message -
From: FRANCISCO
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing as biofuels production
are increasing sharply. Is it valid to assume prices have
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From: FRANCISCOmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Francisco,
I predict that Biodiesel producers will start working with ethanol as a
result of these price increases, this is a good thing and it needs to happen,
when it does that means the biodiesel
: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Ethanol to make ethyl esters makes good sense. Not only renewable, but
carbon neutral as well.
May have to tweak the process a bit . vacuum to reduce water in
oil?
Use high quality WVO or do
.
I got discouraged and put it aside.
Tom
From: JAMES PHELPS
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
It is something that I intend to fiddle
Help if you can.
I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150+ gallons of
windshield wash fluid. It is not winterized. How much methanol should be added
to each gallon of washer fluid in order to prevent freezing to say
-10F (-23C) ?
I will experiment as follows:
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol as Windshield wash antifreeze
Help if you can.
I have relatives that own a bus company. They have 150+ gallons of
windshield wash fluid
Hello All,
Did I miss the news?
Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently?
I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price (
July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in
a few months?
Think methanol price is strongly dependant of natural gas price which is linked
to fuel prices.
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From: Thomas Kelly
To: biofuel
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All,
Did I miss
My price went from 2.02 a gallon last month to 3.08 a gallon this month
Logan Vilas
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Secco
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol
: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All,
Did I miss the news?
Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently?
I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price
( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD
the case with finite supplies
introduced to new markets overnight - Prices move up.
Jim
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From: Thomas Kellymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuelmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:14 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price
I just got this also please see
http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html
Jim
From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:44:45 -0500
I just
, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Tom,
Yep, you missed it, I used to think it followed natural gas prices too but
that is not the case unless there is a significant market lag that causes the
price to lag about a year behind. Wellhead Gas prices have gone down
22, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
I just got this also please see
http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html
Jim
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol
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Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All,
Did I miss the news?
Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol
recently?
I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price
( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is
produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol
prices have gone up, but, I am
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Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Hello All,
Did I miss the news?
Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol
recently?
I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price
( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html
Jim
From: leo bunyan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:12:42 +1100 (EST)
Just got off the dogbone to my
Of course
check the library
Thanks Jim
JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html
Jim
From: leo bunyan
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
Date: Thu, 23
Dear Khin Wei Chong,
If you want I've got the real technology, how to produce the methanol and the
derivate comppounds.
Best regards.
Dr. Ezio Di Bernardo
Hi,
Im interested in getting methanol within the south
east asian region. Would appreciate if anyone could
provide me some
Dear Khin Wei Chong,
If you want I've got the real technology, how to produce the
methanol and the derivate comppounds.
Methanol production for backyarders?
Please tell us more.
Best
Keith
Best regards.
Dr. Ezio Di Bernardo
Hi,
Im interested in getting methanol within the south
Hi,
Im interested in getting methanol within the south
east asian region. Would appreciate if anyone could
provide me some assistance on where I can obtain
methanol or provide me some quotes.
Thanks.
Joe Street wrote:
Hi Jim;
Ok I made up a graph by adding water one ml at a
time
Source:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8859feedId=online-news_rss20
Methanol-powered artificial muscles start to flex
19:00 16 March 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Zeeya Merali
Methanol-powered artificial muscles have been created
by researchers
aiming to create
The price of methanol overhere is € 0,53 per liter.
Ethanol costs about € 0,80 per liter.
Pieter
Netherlands
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From: Blas Antonio Guanes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] ethanol method
Mike Weaver wrote:
HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
snip
Thanks, I needed a good grin!
doug swanson
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery?
HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
HI MIKE!
I first began using methanol just on the weekends. A few bottles of
dry gas here and there, just enought to make
Keith!
You live on a mountain in Japan? How are you coping with all the snow
dude? Last I heard 4m fell. Be vewwwy qwiet while you tiptoe around
ok? It wouldn't do to have a few megatons of snow come and wipe you off
the mountain!
J
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, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery?
HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
HI MIKE!
I first began using methanol just on the weekends. A few bottles of
dry gas here and there, just enought to make myself feel better about
my fuel usage. Then it got
Keith!
You live on a mountain in Japan?
Indeed I do Joe, at least Weaver got something right, LOL!
How are you coping with all the snow
dude? Last I heard 4m fell.
7m in some places. It's killed about a hundred people in Japan so
far. Not so bad here though, much worse in the north.
Be
Hi Theo
Big-time, huh? :-)
Hello everyone, I am scaling up the size of my processing units to
make about 300-400gallons of biodiesel a day. Right now I do not do
any methanol recovery however at the larger scale it makes a lot of
finical sense to get back the methanol. I have had a lot of
Addison
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:04 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery?
Hi Theo
Big-time, huh? :-)
Hello everyone, I am scaling up the size of my processing units to
make about 300-400gallons of biodiesel a day. Right now I do not do
any
HI MY NAME IS MIKE AND I HAVE A METHANOL PROBLEM.
HI MIKE!
I first began using methanol just on the weekends. A few bottles of dry
gas here and there, just enought to make myself feel better about my
fuel usage. Then it got to be too expensive to buy methanol in little
bottles and I began to
Amazing Keith, that you put any time in stupid articles like this man wrote.
How can you keep your patients ?
Greetings,
Pieter.
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel
is immortal not even the earth we tread under
foot.
Doug Handisides
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From: Bioclaire Nederland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery? Amazing
Hello everyone, I am scaling up the size of my processing units to make
about 300-400gallons of biodiesel a day. Right now I do not do any methanol
recovery however at the larger scale it makes a lot of finical sense to get
back the methanol. I have had a lot of trouble finding somewhat
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection?
In an obscure way, I am all ready there.
A neighbor up the street let me know about a month ago that if he ever
suspects that I am making BioDiesel, he
out the ins and out's of this law, and so I'm
just taking my time.
Greg H.
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From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 13:40
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection
collect from
Peterborough.
Hope this helps
Rgds Bob
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From: Chris May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol suppliers
Hi everyone, Ive just started attempting to make
BD
I'm a residence not a restraunt/business, so the exemtions for 'Other Oils'
don't apply.
Greg H.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 19:38
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves
No.
Near as I can tell, everything is NG with some electric and a few solar.
Greg H
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From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 18:59
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood
enoughprotection
Furnace is Natural Gas.
Greg H.
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From: Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 23:43
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves
goodenoughprotection?
Hey Greg,
Can't you put your
It's one thing if it is a vehicle fuel tank, something else if it is not.
Greg H.
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From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 22:02
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves
Thanks to all for the thorough responses to my queries about methanol and
gloves! Y'all rule...
What's your views on my addition of 0.5-2% addition of gasoline to my
veggie oil prior to biodiesel production during cold/damp weather?
It seems to take care of the moisture factor which had me
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 18:59
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood
enoughprotection?
Greg,
Do people heat with fuel oil where you are? If so, that's not Biodiesel
being stored, it's fuel oil. They have got to allow tanks of that.
(Assuming people heat
Hi everyone, Ive just started attempting to make BD
but after getting some methanol from a local model
airplane shop, he told me that his supplier has told
him he can no longer get him the stuff since
apparently the british government have outlawed
methanol being sold a seperate item so 95% or
Hi Peter
Hi Keith and All ;
I had a bug infestation eating new leaves on some
trees I was growing. The only thing I had handy was
some 85% methanol. I used a hand pump spray bottle
and sprayed it on, and the plants loved it, the bugs
all died and haven't come back yet.
Interesting. With 85%
Better to be over-cautious than under-cautious.
I know what you're saying Mike, but I don't agree. Maybe you wouldn't
either if you saw all the emails I've had from people shying away
from brewing biodiesel because of all those dreadful chemicals. Maybe
if the playing field was level, without
Hi Keith,
You're probably right. I just have the fear that someone will
kill/blind/maim themselves making BD and it'll
be seized on by the forces of darkness. If training were available, or
we could setp an serious non-profit (that is NOT the National Biodiesel
Board) and
do training, like
-
From: Chris May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol suppliers
Hi everyone, Ive just started attempting to make BD
but after getting some methanol from a local model
airplane shop, he told me that his supplier
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 13:40
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection?
Hi Keith,
You're probably right. I just have the fear that someone will
kill/blind/maim themselves making BD and it'll
be seized on by the forces of darkness
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection?
In an obscure way, I am all ready there.
A neighbor up the street let me know about a month ago that if he ever
suspects that I am making BioDiesel
and out's of this law, and so I'm
just taking my time.
Greg H.
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From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 13:40
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection
: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good
enoughprotection?
In an obscure way, I am all ready there.
A neighbor up the street let me know about a month ago that if he ever
suspects that I am making BioDiesel, he will make sure that one way or
another will I end up in court
Hey Greg,
Can't you put your biodiesel in a furnace tank and call it home heating
oil? That should get around that arcane law.
Too bad about your neighbour, tho'...
Kenji Fuse
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We're veering between incaution and overcaution. There've been some
other messages pooh-poohing safety in general. I'd agree too much
safety is dangerous, but so is too little. What's required is *due*
caution, which needs good information. Here it is:
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
We're veering between incaution and overcaution. There've
been some other messages pooh-poohing safety in general.
I'd agree too much safety is dangerous, but so is too little.
What's required is *due* caution, which needs good information.
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
We're veering between incaution and overcaution. There've
been some other messages pooh-poohing safety in general.
I'd agree too much safety is dangerous, but so is too little.
What's required is *due* caution, which needs good
Better to be over-cautious than under-cautious.
I wish we could set up a training series and teach interested parties
how to brew safely. I dread the thought than someone will
make an avoidable error and taint the home-brewing scenario.
If I wrote a quick safety punchlist would the greybeards
Hi Keith and All ;
I had a bug infestation eating new leaves on some
trees I was growing. The only thing I had handy was
some 85% methanol. I used a hand pump spray bottle
and sprayed it on, and the plants loved it, the bugs
all died and haven't come back yet.
Best Regards,
Peter G.
Thailand
Thankyou Ken, succinctly put, as ever.
Best
Keith
On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:11 PM, Ken Dunn wrote:
I'm still a bit confused.
What is the trick to evaporating the methanol
without reversing the process?
Very simple -- you can't boil off methanol when both
biodiesel and glycerine are
what the boilling point of diesel is but itw way below the boiling point of
water at 212,, buck
From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] methanol recovery from fuel stock?
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:31:32 -0800
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:35
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
Howdy Teoman,
bubbling thru the solution is all that it would do. It doesn't react under
these conditions.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Tan
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:58 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol substitution
Hydrocarbons are relatively inert. They only undergo reaction at
vigorous conditions such high pressure and/or high
is -OH which makes it react.
Best,
Chris
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How would you react the solution
Any known functional groups?
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Hydrocarbons are relatively inert. They only
Propane becomes liquid under pressure.
Mehtane would be bubbled through the solution.
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I knew that somebody would have thought of it if it were possible.
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How would you react the solution with the gas?
Teoman Naskali wrote:
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane
Then how is NitoMethane made?
Greg H.
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Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:35
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Howdy Teoman,
bubbling thru the solution is all that it would do
Just a thoght bu would it be possible to use methane or propane or
buthane instead of methanol? One would have to have some methanol for
the methroxide but still... that would save a lot of money.
Has anynone experimented? Any good reason why I shouldn't?
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