ouble jerk.)
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mich...@offbalance.com
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Paul Schatzkin (mobile) wrote:
> ENOUGH. POWERMAIL GET YOUR *** HOUSE IN ORDER
>
> --PS
Does your Apple Mail not show you the headers like my Apple Mail does? You can
find the unsubscribe email address there, as is usual for most compliant email
list services. You will, most likely, need to unsubscribe from the original
address you used to subscribe.
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Michael Lewis
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with some mail I get now :( ),
with enough HTML capability to make several users happy, but the ability to
turn it off in bits and pieces as needed by others like me.
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Thanks for the info Matthias and Michael. Since it will likely be some
time before I can get the new computer, maybe I'll go ahead and pick up
Leopard after all.
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ound the beginning of 2009...)
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lready wound down. My bad, and my apologies, too.
I sitll like the cartoon at <http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?
id=20080822> though. :)
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only reply to the information I am given. Extrapolating
that the HTML-only messages are proper ones and the PM should be
rendering them was not possible from the information I had.
And my last word on this is:
<http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080822>
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ng the multipart emails properly, then they may be creating
improper HTML code, too. I can only reply to the info I have. :)
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Matthias Schmidt sez:
>So yes, it gets more and more difficult t stick with PM.
Can you not use the button at the bottom to switch to HTML view or view
the message in a web browser. If neither of those work, than the email
has crappy HTML code and it isn't PM's fault.
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iew in a browser. Would webkit still be the causing the hiding issue
even when HTML viewing is off? I am using PowerMail 5.6.3 in Mac OS X 10.4.11.
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format the mail properly? Just because
other mail programs can catch a few errors and fix them on the fly,
doesn't mean all of them can or should. I'd prefer that email programs
didn't fix errors so that crappy email programs would finally die the
deaths they deserve.
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ff and show the names of the pics or other
attachments old-style. Mail.app does not allow this. HTML is either on
or off, and I get a button to load images if it's off. Not what I want,
even if people think it is what I need. :)
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other
program I use, if I can. If I can't, I'm going to be really angry for a
long time. :)
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nsane or both.
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ve got enough registrations to worry about. I've
reached my personal 2GB limit on what I want to register to read or post
to. If I can use BugMeNot.Com to read and sometimes post, I do that.
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#x27;s get ignored or something?
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s out around Egypt needs to move
to China.
In the meantime, I hope CTM can fix whatever is causing the hang up in
mails like these, or can get Apple to fix the issue if it is at that level.
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ind wasn't thinking. Won't be the last time, I'm
sure. :)
I just got another of those 50% mails. This could take days... Ugh.
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thing
that is now becoming noticed?
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fy spam button, but, yes, this just recently
began for me,too. I think it began after the most recent update. I am on
a PPC Mac using OS X 10.4.11. It's an annoyance, but I hadn't gotten
around to asking about it myself yet. At least now I know it isn't just
me. (I was about to go
Mikael Byström sez:
>And, yes I can "tone it down" nevertheless. There's no need for making
>people angry for the sake of it. My apologies.
See how easy that was, and how unnecessary the rest was?
Thanks!
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t Save" buttons. Then, instead, if it is still
important, write it from your point of view. I could care less if you
think we're all idiots and treat us as such by figuratively rolling up
your eyes, calling us childish, and telling us to join other cults.
Ahhh... One more week to Luddite bliss.
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e dark
waiting for someone to install a new lightbulb when you have a perfectly
good flashlight in your hand.
Man, I'm going to enjoy my vacation from the internet in a couple weeks.
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I had had a bad day. I still don't think
some of the characterizations are exactly right, but I apologize for the
rest. :)
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you are "right" then fine. As far as I'm concerned this was
never a right or wrong thing. I provided what I do the few times I need
to print HTML mail, and this is all I get back?
Oh well. Life goes on outside the Net.
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Michael Lewis
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ny like CTM that must make its decisions and apply its
human resources well.
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ferent email client, get the printing you like, but probably
end up with other tradeoffs. I haven't found an email client yet that I
didn't have to make tradeoffs in order to use. Like Wayne said, nothing
is ever 100% satisfactory to everyone.
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for it is its search engine, and I
actually kind of like Apple Mail's built-in picture viewer that allows
me to add photos straight to iPhoto from a slideshow, so I might as well
switch to it fully then. (I have a mac.com address I use Mail with and
don't give out to much more than
xcept possibly the header info part, i.e. date and subject
>under "begin forwarded message", if you think this is important, else
>hit select-all and then delete.
>e) add text to gusto.
>f) drag the saved out web archive onto the forward message, which is now
>an attachment.
't see the issue myself it's good to know some tips on how I might
see it or find others with the issue.
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" at their end and stop annoying us. :)
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experienced difficulties with .Mac Mail for 10 hours.
>Normal service has been restored.
>01/15/2007
>3% of members experienced difficulties with .Mac Mail for 45 minutes.
>01/11/2007
>2% of members experienced difficulties with .Mac Mail for 2 hours.
>01/10/2007
>3% of members
The other setting was leaving spam which actually had my address in
them. As an example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in my addressbook,
so those usually got sent to spam just fine... The "Always" setting
appears to be catching the others now, too.
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handle both mail clients at once. I may set that up soon. SpamSieve
is a great product surpassed only by not having to download the junk in
the first place. :)
Thanks again!
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eve's corpus. It should take about 9-10 days for me to get
1000 spams to index. Ugh.
Now, if I could only find a way to automatically trash all the political
mail my father sends to me but save his good messages. :)
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Michael Lewis
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e advertiser's site. I still got bouncebacks for a
while, but I was much more satisfied. :)
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recalibrate SpamSieve, but I generally delete all my spam and don't
remember I should be saving it until I think about recalibrating. :) DOH!
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nd has the features you apparently like in
PowerMail. That or get CTM to do that poll and reconsider, but my
hypothesis is most people don't reach the limit. (I'm more than happy to
be proved wrong in that hypothesis when the poll is done :) )
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Michael Lewis
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expense. Maybe a poll of users done beyond the this
mail list even would be helpful. (I'm assuming, of course, that the
majority of users are not subscribed here :) )
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Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
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mail into a database program (attachments I've
taken care of long ago -- I don't leave things I use attached to email;
they go in my work folders with whatever project they are for). I'm
waiting on Adobe to get in gear and for a big bunch of cash to fall in
my lap. :)
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Michael
formerly Aladdin) for a drag-drop ZIP, Stuff, Tar utility...
Thanks for the info.
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Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
240-271-9889
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'd keep PowerMail
or just use OS X's Mail when I made the move. I do like Mail; I just
prefer the text mail reading and layout of tools and such in PowerMail.
Good to know I'll probably be able to keep using PM!
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Michael Lewis
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240-271-9889
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d see if the problem
persists in Powermail. If it does, then it isn't that font or is
something else entirely.
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fonts as well as allow you to remove them. You
could at that point reinstall them or simply leave them off your system.
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I can be afraid,
too. (I say that a little jokingly, but I would like to see what is
happening.)
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es. Oh well. And, of course, the faster connections people
get the more they think it is all right to attach big files. I haven't
figured out what to do to change users, and I've been doing this since
the early 80s. :)
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think his concerns have been answered.
But we've gone over this at least once or twice a year since I've been a
PowerMail user, so I'll be surprised if anything happens now.
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Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
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iving it somewhere
doesn't bother me at all. I don't think my spam could get much worse either...
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Michael Lewis
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a new message?
Cancel | Duplicate
Select duplicate and continue entering the addressee(s), then click to
send. All done.
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Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
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thought
an EMail program would be one to take a while, but I'm not a programmer,
so now I know! :)
Thank you for the brief but helpful progress report, Jerome!
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Michael Lewis
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My system specs, just in case: Apple Power Mac G4/400 with G4 1GHz
Mercury upgrade, 1.12GB RAM, 120GB hard drive with 64GB available, Mac
OS X 10.4.6 (8I127), PowerMail version 5.2.2 build 4404
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problems. :)
Maybe someone else will see a pattern here now?
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aris Emailer in Classic mode for
quite some time before moving to Powermail.
Good luck!
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compare and figure out what I may be doing differently to not have the
issues. :(
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ut that I do know
you can control-click now and it will offer to copy the word you clicked
on, which will mean a URL can also be nabbed this way. :)
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the added functionality would be more in line with
control-clicking on URLs in Safari or whatever. And it would be the same
with my particular setting on my multibutton mouse (and probably most
people who have right-click set to control-click?).
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" People read into this stuff all the
time, so I really meant that a quick "for my needs" or "imho" neatly
avoids any traps. I certainly didn't mean it as harsh as it probably came
across. Sorry about that. Thus the imperfections of written word...
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think you'll use its services, then fine,
but calling .Mac and annual fees silly sounds as if you think people are
silly paying for something they might find useful, and it just rankles me.
But have a great weekend anyway! :)
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ltApp <http://www.rubicode.com/
Software/RCDefaultApp/> won't make the PDF service change either? Double ick.
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cleaning
up yet; I still can't print from my main user account.
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emselves, and I don't think that level of discourse is
helpful or necessary. Mikael and I already worked all that out offlist, I
think. :)
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erall. (And apparently would keep me out of trouble, too. :) )
Yes, "weeks" was hyperbole, too. The thread might have been 4 days, but
it felt like weeks. :)
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've never had or rarely had the
problem you speak of -- I know I never have in all these years -- because
the sequence you list isn't as common as you think it is. A problem? Yes.
Big enough for me to have 500 bazillion messages from Mikael in a day?
No. (Yes, I'm using hyperbole now..
ing what
someone wrote. Yeesh.
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Michael Lewis sez:
>Of course, if they
>really are out to get you, then it is paranoia... :)
Oops. Meant "is not paranoia". Left out a word there...
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ed
There is concerned, and then there is paranoid. :) Of course, if they
really are out to get you, then it is paranoia... :)
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s going to
do it myself over a year ago but couldn't find software that reliably
screened the email addresses. Now we have that, and I think it is a
disservice to Powermail owners NOT to archive this.
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7;m just surprised to see it goes all the way back to 2000! :) It's only
got message sup to June 2004 right now, though. Hmmm... Does CTM actually
maintain that now, or was trying it out at some point?
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ere is also some discussion about slowdowns with RAID installations on
Mac OS X prior to Tiger/10.4:
<http://forums.dantz.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?
Cat=&Number=53441&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=4&vc=1>
Skimming through that, it may not be related
e before
the latest versions, but I admit I could be misremembering. Has it always
been like this? If so, I must run into it just enough to know it happens,
but not enough that it's made me complain yet. Since someone else started
it :)
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very nice :) ) and they run off to another
email client or conform.
I was kind of being a Devil's Advocate and saying that there are
precedents in mail clients -- if not PowerMail -- and why some people
might expect it to work one way rather than the other.
I'll try not to stir up t
e devised, that'd be cool.
Double-click to launch like the HTML lovers like and ctrl-click to get a
menu to copy the link/address, among other things. :)
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egacy brought to us courtesy of HTML mail. YAY!
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research business
reports.
Macintel doesn't come up in a searchd. Get it while it's hot!
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e
the capability to view and send HTML mail. So, if we just get rid of HTML
mail entirely, from the whole planet, and then remove the capability from
Mail and PowerMail, then both will be fixed.
And, yes, I'm playing (il)logic games to make a joke. :)
But I still hate HTML mail. :)
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;convert" in there. I don't think I said anything about sticking a CD in
and running a program for the other OS like magic.
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n it can be converted over to Windows and CTM
can make more money. Wait -- do Windows users buy anything? ;)
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ne maker named MacTell.
Sorry for adding to the off-topicness. Looking for a bit of fun on an
unfun day. :)
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I felt it was best for an organization...
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27;ll keep it in mind as the year date nears next
February. Or try to keep it in mind for that far away. :)
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r versions, it's almost never advisable to prune,
>and improper pruning severely reduces accuracy.
So, I guess that wouldn't help. :)
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It'll be interesting to see how this holds up as I run it more and the
corpus and rules grow. Maybe it would be a good thing to rebuild the
corpus and rules once a year? Clear it of fake spam addresses that will
never show up again but are cluttering rules? I dunno...
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Permissions? I find a lot of
screwy program stuff gets fixed by that. (You may need to reboot from
your OS CD in order to run the utility the best.)
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ust the junk filter is in Mail. I have a few clients
who use it and it seems to do well, however, SpamSieve does have a Mail
version so some people must find SpamSieve still a useful add-on. Just a
thought for you as you switch over!
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e are people and mail lists and such in my
PowerMail addresses that I don't want in my regular Address Book.
A setting on Powermail addresses to mark whether or not to sync an
address could be useful. I haven't missed it, have it?
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[
Total Words
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>Rules
>279 Blocklist Rules
>269 Whitelist Rules
>
>Showing Statistics Since
>2/8/05 9:03 AM
By the way, I don't have "Use Entourage Address Book" checked because I
use PowerMail! :)
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before used but still proper?
Like you said: Interesting.
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Wayne Brissette sez:
>If we really want to fix the bandwidth
>problems, we have to fix the spammers.
Agreed. I know a veterinarian who has no qualms doing without anesthetic
on such people.
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that won't read HTML mail
anyway. There are a lot of schools and libraries here in the States that
still have old systems and terminals that won't do that kind of mail,
too. I say let's just leave email as a simple communication medium and
use attachments for fancier stuff.
An
the long headers and I see the latter doesn't have a LIST-
UNSUBSCRIBE under Precedence: List. Is that it? Should I email the list
owners to try to include them, or is this a non-standard or semi-standard
thing?
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t;
Hehheh. I still have mine turned off totally and view it in a browser if
I want to. What a luddite I am. :)
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st page wold be useful, but I
probably wouldn't check that until after several days...
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he database, a couple dockbar
bounces, and the database is ready for searches. Boom. The wait is, at
most, a couple or three seconds. I fritter away more than that when I
fall asleep at the keyboard each afternoon. :)
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r occurs. I'm intrigued, both because I'm
just curious but also because my memory is that I don't experience this
and I want to know as I prepare to upgrade to v5 myself. (Maybe I can
force a send error of the type needed by changing the smtp server name to
an incorrect one in setup... I m
he new one so we could figure out if a
bug had been introduced. I'm not experiencing any quirks. :) Sorry if
there was any confusion on that point.
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Michael Lewis sez:
>Mikael Byström sez:
>
>>>need to go to draft mode at all.
>>
>>In PM 4 at least, if you really wanted the message to be sent, you had to
>>go to draft mode first or it just sat there.
>
>Well, let's see. I am using v4.2.1 Carbon.
il sent the message without me doing anything at all. (Which is
what we want, but not what I was testing. :) )
I was hoping to test using the List so we could see what happened, but
now I'll test using another email account I have and report back. :)
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hitting the "Send" button to cause this message to go
into my "Out Tray". I'll then reconnect the cable and try sending. the
waiting message. If it then sends without needing draft mode, there will
be nothing following "EDIT" below. Otherwise, there will be an ed
"Waiting"
>to "Draft" and then from "Draft" to "Waiting".
I don't have anything waiting at the moment to test, but I'm fairly sure
I right click (control-click) and choose "send" from a pop-up menu. No
need to go to draft mode at all.
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ments will often not have the netadata to be clickable anyway; mail
programs usually assign it via the extensions.)
I would just control-click the attachment's icon in the email, choose
"SHow in Finder" and then change the name to have a .pdf on the end (or
.doc orwhatever the file
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