On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
hi,
I don't think it's a good idea to separate the chapter and the community.
The chapter is a membership-based organization and by definition an
umbrella organization which represents the community. There
On Wednesday 07 March 2012 01:38 PM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:
I think that although the chapter and community are volunteer based,
the chapter has more legal sanctity and is answerable as an
organisation against as a person being held responsible. Hence, it is
important that even the
Good idea Srikanth.
I had similar thoughts after Arun's qrpedia talk in Bangalore meetup and
seeing the following photo (
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Wikip%C3%A9dia_dans_Rennes_-_Jean_Janvier_-_vue_proche.jpg
)
Om,Radhakrishna,Anoopan has offered help in Kannada,Telugu and
On 7 March 2012 13:11, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Nothing is conducted solely by India Program - and hence I said
supported. Everything is conducted by the community - sometimes under
the aegis of the
hi,
Also think that putting this up on the talk page of the report would be
more helpful. Else, not many people will remember that this discussion even
took place. Discussions on this mailing list have a tendency to get buried.
warm regards,
Pradeep
On 7 March 2012 14:35, Subhashish Panigrahi
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Shiju Alex sh...@wikimedia.org wrote:
*We hope that Wikimedia works on delivering better transliteration
support or improving the results for Indic languages. *
Typing scheme for Transliteration is an issue (for readers) since there is
no standard
I am replying to this mail as a *Malayalam wikimedia community member*.
Fact: Subhashish, *former volunteer*, and now paid consultant with India
Programs.
What do you mean by this? I Shiju Alex is a Indic language wikipedian now
close to 6 years. According to Mr. Anirudh (an EC member of
Thank you Naveen, I have already sent across first bit of correspondence to
them.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@wikimedia.inwrote:
Good idea Srikanth.
I had similar thoughts after Arun's qrpedia talk in Bangalore meetup and
seeing the following photo (
Heya,
Personally, I feel that the work done by the Chapter and IP need to
segregated, solely for the purpose of accountability.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
I am replying
Shiju, you and Subhashish have been volunteers but now you are paid
contractors hired by the Foundation. Any work you do within the purview of
your contractual relationship with the Foundation will be work as a paid
contractor and cannot be deemed to be the same as a volunteer. You can
Shiju,
I request you to calm down first.
Please do NOT take anything as a personal attack.
--
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
Shiju, you and Subhashish have been volunteers but now you are paid
contractors hired by the Foundation. Any work you do
Congratulations Noopur.
I had a feeling that your contributions to the movement would be different
when I met you [October 2009]. Looks like I was right. : )
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote:
Congratulations Noopur!!
from Calcutta community...
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
Shiju, you and Subhashish have been volunteers but now you are paid
contractors hired by the Foundation. Any work you do within the purview of
your contractual relationship with the Foundation will be work as a paid
Hi Shiju
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
Shiju, you and Subhashish have been volunteers but now you are paid
contractors hired by the Foundation. Any work you do within the purview of
your contractual relationship with the Foundation will be work as
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:
I am replying to this mail as a Malayalam wikimedia community member.
Fact: Subhashish, former volunteer, and now paid consultant with India
Programs.
What do you mean by this? I Shiju Alex is a Indic language
Dear Anirudh Shiju,
I would strongly dispose this as NOT the official position of the chapter.
I have a different opinion but again I won't attribute to the chapter. What
I say below is my personal opinion.
Just because someone decides to work full time ( and paid too) doesn't mean
it ceases
Without meaning to be disrespectful of you. your helpful attitude or your
excellent work, Shiju, we have a bit of a problem when we ask people for
help/favours/action in case they are holding multiple positions.
I asked for a list of Malayalam articles of the 500 article CD collection.
You
Let me first explain what he was trying to refer to. He called you a
volunteer, from the Latin word voluntarius[1], meaning voluntary or
willing. The noun form [2] describes it as -
1.One who enters into, or offers for, any
servicehttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/service of
his/her own free
In keeping with this spirit :) and the difficulty of distinguishing
between all these roles, I propose a simple purity test:
Are you a paid employee of the foundation or a paid contractor? (-25)
Have you ever been a paid employee or contractor? (-15)
Did you resign/stop? (+5)
Did you
Thanks, Tinu. I generally agree with you. Except that I never tried to
tell anyone about what they ought to be doing as a volunteer and what not.
There is a simple distinction between staff/consultants and volunteers as
is evident from conventional usage across the Wikimedia universe. The only
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:43, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:
In keeping with this spirit :) and the difficulty of distinguishing
between all these roles, I propose a simple purity test:
Can you please stop trolling? This is not I-Dont-want-mention-list-l
--
Regards
Srikanth.L
On Wednesday 07 March 2012 03:47 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:43, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com
mailto:aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:
In keeping with this spirit :) and the difficulty of
distinguishing between all these roles, I propose a simple purity
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:51, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 07 March 2012 03:47 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:43, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.commailto:
aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:
In keeping with this spirit :) and the difficulty
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:37 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
Everyone is encouraged to volunteer for the chapter , regardless of what
his or her day job is. There is nothing that prevents even a foundation
staff or contractor even being the board member of the chapter ,
Dear Members,
I would like to inform the Wikimedia India Chapter and its
volunteers/workers that the Featured Wikimedian for the last 2 months have
not been updated as such. I hope those who maintain the portal will look
into the matter soon enough not to be obsolete.
--
Thanks Regards,
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:01 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com
wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hisham: IP has taken initiatives that need to be commended as well.
Thank you! ;-)
For eg. Virtual Outreach via Google Hangout is Nitikas initiative.
Not nit-picking - but want to make a
Dear all,
In personal capacity, just offering a small clarification. I agree that
chapter and IP as organizational entities should have their roles defined
and their reports tabulated. This is a very desirable and healthy practice
imho.
Regarding my role as SIG, GLAM person, member of the Chapter
If it matters, if you have read the MoA or the Chapters agreement of the
Wikimedia India Chapter or most of the chapters, the Foundation and
Chapters are independent organizations. Wikimedia Foundation is NOT a
parent organization of the Wikimedia India Chapter.
IMHO, It would be only a conflict
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
If it matters, if you have read the MoA or the Chapters agreement of the
Wikimedia India Chapter or most of the chapters, the Foundation and
Chapters are independent organizations. Wikimedia Foundation is NOT a
Tinu,
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
If it matters, if you have read the MoA or the Chapters agreement of the
Wikimedia India Chapter or most of the chapters, the Foundation and
Chapters are independent organizations. Wikimedia Foundation is
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
Tinu,
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it matters, if you have read the MoA or the Chapters agreement of the
Wikimedia India Chapter or most of the chapters, the
hi,
To set us back a bit, the discussion was originally centered on
volunteer-staff relationship.
Pradeep
Handheld
On 07/03/2012, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
Tinu,
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
If it matters, if you have read
And to add
That is why they have two accounts and rather large disclaimers on their
user pages, demarcating this very difference.
This is only possible in virtual worlds, while editing Wikipedia or writing
mails. Not in real life work !
I cannot have one face or voice when I am acting as board
Errm Theo,
Do remember that the India TRUST is DIFFERENT form the Chapter. It is from
the WMF side and has absolutely NO relation with the Chapter.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:38 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
You are a long time community member, you were working as Wikimedia
Foundation paid contractor for some time, does that mean all the volunteer
work you would have done before/after or during being a full time and
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Nothing is conducted solely by India Program - and hence I said supported.
Everything is conducted by the community - sometimes under the aegis of the
Chapter and
From the mail Hisham sent out a looong time ago, it seemed like an
independent entity.
Besides, do Indian laws permit for either a society or a trust to be a
subsidiary of another organisation?
I don't think so, but I leave it for The lawyer [Anirudh/ Gautam] to
respond.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at
Yes,
this needs to be looked into.
It acts as inspiration for someone to have their name up on the front page.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Members,
I would like to inform the Wikimedia India Chapter and its
volunteers/workers that the
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
We will discuss overlapping roles and notify the community about our
decision.
Who is we?
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On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Nothing is conducted solely by India Program - and hence I said
supported. Everything is conducted by
Hoi,
At translatewiki.net we installed the latest release of the Lohit fonts
today. Among several improvements there are two things that stand out.
There are now two new fonts specific for Devanagari and they support
Marathi and Nepali. As you know certain characters are written differently
when
Theo,
* Err... I have no idea who or what implied that. *
I am referring to your previous full time and paid work for the Wikimedia
Foundation 2010-2011
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_contractors#Individuals
*
I don't think anyone said anything to that effect so far. *
Dear Anirudh,
Can you elaborate as to what you meant by we ?
-TC
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Anirudh Bhati wrote:
We will discuss overlapping roles and notify the community about our
decision.
Who is we?
hisham
Tinu, respectfully, your argument for inability to segregate roles does not
hold water.
In the mean, cold harsh world of legalese, things like demarcation of
roles, disclosures, incompatibility of holding conflicting appointments,
having code of ethics are all normal and these instruments in fact
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
Theo,
* Err... I have no idea who or what implied that. *
I am referring to your previous full time and paid work for the Wikimedia
Foundation 2010-2011
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:24 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
Theo,
* Err... I have no idea who or what implied that. *
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:38 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
wrote:
You are a long time community member, you were working as Wikimedia
Right on, Pradeep!
Hence my detailed views on my own responsibility as WikiProject India lead.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
--
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
wrote:
hi,
I also think a similar
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 15:45, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, as long as I am not signing off with my official credentials at the
end of the email, I am only expressing personal opinion. For instance, I
wouldn't claim that Shiju's indisposition towards me is the official
*
*Dear Anirudh,*
**Also, as long as I am not signing off with my official credentials at
the end of the email, I am only expressing personal opinion. *
*We will discuss overlapping roles and notify the community about our
decision.*
*I referred to we as in the Executive Committee of the WMIN.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.inwrote:
*
*Dear Anirudh,*
**Also, as long as I am not signing off with my official credentials at
the end of the email, I am only expressing personal opinion. *
*We will discuss overlapping roles and notify the community
*57 mails to define the effort, for me be it voluntary/paid, effort for a
good cause is priceless, and the precious time everyone wasted could have
been utilized (not to be considered as a free gyan!) for something
constructive rather than this defensing act which will result just nothing,
the
I'm starting a monthly note on what the India Program team will be focussing on
at the start of every month. March 2012 is posted here. I hope you find it
useful. Please do add comments on the discussion page, or on this mail trail,
or offlist to me.
Many thanks.
hisham
Hoi,
Reading back I realised that I did not answer your question really. What
you are asking for is the possibility to transliterate a text into a
specific script.This is something that needs development. At the Silpa
website there is functionality that does some initial transliteration. It
Hello,
I find that the number of mails I receive from mailings about India
and Wikimedia is a bit excessive. It would be be easy to reduce it
significantly by not cross-posting every announcements, and by not
sending congratulations to the list, but to the person concerned.
Thanks,
Yann
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 19:10, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I find that the number of mails I receive from mailings about India
and Wikimedia is a bit excessive. It would be be easy to reduce it
significantly by not cross-posting every announcements, and by not
sending
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I find that the number of mails I receive from mailings about India
and Wikimedia is a bit excessive. It would be be easy to reduce it
significantly by not cross-posting every announcements, and by not
sending
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
Shiju, you and Subhashish have been volunteers but now you are paid
contractors hired by the Foundation. Any work you do within the purview of
your contractual relationship with the Foundation will be work as a paid
Dear Wikipedians,
This is my
first mail to this list and I am from the Assamese Wikipedia Community, so
please excuse me if made a mistake. My user name is jpnath008.
Reading this
discussion I just feel the need to inform you about the growing development of
Assamese
Jyoti. this is brilliant indeed. I agree, community support is
something we expect from the foundation. Nitika helped me a lot last
month for a meetup.
Hari, if your mail was about Trust vs Society, I'm with you.
Shiju, as an English Wikipedia editor, I stand by Anirudh, his edits,
his role in
Frankly, i had not understood what you said earlier :-(, thank you
for later one. As you may have known, I personaly not interested in
current type wide deployment of webfonts, not only because usability
of its current deployment is limited, but also it is almost obsolete
in its current purpose.
Hi,
Let me take the focus of discussions back to the report/s where it all started.
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:
In retrospect, I also understand the need for seperating the Foundation
activities as
http://news.efytimes.com/e1/79898/Write-Cool-Hacks-On-Wikimedia-Projects--Chennai-Hackathon-March
--
Regards
Srikanth.L
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I would like to add here that Nitika's Subashish's presentation was a
great one for me to customise with my slides. I strongly recommend that
rather than recreate the wheel their presentation be used by all those
planning English language outreach. One of the things IP has done right.
Now I
We got coverage from the enwiki Signpost as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-03-05/In_the_news
Swaroop Rao
(MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch)
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 03:26, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote:
Any way to reach
Hi Abhiram,
Will take care this.
Please feel free to chip in and help to identify the featured wikipedians
across India.
--
naveenpf
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Members,
I would like to inform the Wikimedia India Chapter and its
hi,
Some members on this list may be interested in this! Hope we can do
something similar for all of the magazines that India had in the end of the
19th century onwards.
Below message holds more weight since today is International Women's Day.
warm regards,
Pradeep
-- Forwarded message
Naveen, the young folk who volunteered to take charge of projects such as
Bpositive, S-Sriram Kondicherry may please be considered for this column.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
--
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Naveen Francis
Hi Sudhanwa,
FYI, a report was sent by Wasim to this mailing list on the 6th of Feb.[1].
[1].
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2012-February/006810.html
Regards,
Pratik Lahoti.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar
sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
This
Just a reminder.
The last date of applications for Wikimania scholarships by Wikimedia
Polska (Poland) is March 9, 2012.
The application should be submitted by e-mail sent to the Secretary of the
Commission (at powere...@gazeta.pl )
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