RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage
Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last names appear to be different from your record, but the first two names match the names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the dates appear to be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842): http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel=en=D=manuel+francisco=catarino=3=L=0= The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may have to check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for death (some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What follows Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her name on the next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I see something like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct info. The page yours is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t look the same to me. Anyway, hope this helps a little. Diane George From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM To: genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents and the date of the marriage? It would be much appreciated. Top left one: Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia with Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html Sam (Mazatlan, MX) [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Demailclient%26utm_term%3Dicon=02%7C01%7C%7C763f088ce7c843a4d86208d59cad4dee%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587190510356015=17A2yKOl9jvUyuKlJCMuqeFUY%2FLou6aFpxATZVYNXDs%3D=0> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Demailclient%26utm_term%3Dlink=02%7C01%7C%7C763f088ce7c843a4d86208d59cad4dee%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587190510356015=q%2BP5oSppysH2%2FPJE%2FlSuGPfTOrBg1MB%2BI%2BUnpXiWBN0%3D=0> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7C763f088ce7c843a4d86208d59cad4dee%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587190510356015=GJj5fU8DY5T09KWdsHFpJtl6oK5HM52lXUojdLKmPYE%3D=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa/Happy Easter thread
Happy Easter to you all! Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Donald Vasconcelos Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 8:30 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa/Happy Easter thread Happy Easter to all Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2018, at 8:14 AM, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Happy Easter to all! Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of MaryAnn Santos <m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu>> Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 9:47:51 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa/Happy Easter thread Happy Easter! MaryAnn On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 12:45 AM, Sandra Valine Dauer <acore...@gmail.com<mailto:acore...@gmail.com>> wrote: A Blessed Easter to you and your families. Sandra Valine Dauer On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:35 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>> wrote: Happy Easter to all! May you have a blessed day and if you're traveling a safe trip! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com<mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote: Feliz Pascoa! Happy Easter! For those wishing to send Easter greetings to the list: 1) Hit reply to this message ONLY. 2) Send your Easter greeting Do NOT start your own message. Do NOT send greetings after 11:59 pm (your time) on Sunday, April 1st. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. (Just seeing who reads this :) Cheri Mello, Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7Cd15e30be6ecd48ecfd3208d597ef8d90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636581977483568753=9wweWt3lw3G9w27Jao4AVG9FPFPn1JvDsonQWLCgUuQ%3D=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7Cd15e30be6ecd48ecfd3208d597ef8d90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636581977483568753=9wweWt3lw3G9w27Jao4AVG9FPFPn1JvDsonQWLCgUuQ%3D=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7Cd15e30be6ecd48ecfd3208d597ef8d90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636581977483568753=9wweWt3lw3G9w27Jao4AVG9FPFPn1JvDsonQWLCgUuQ%3D=0>. -- MaryAnn Santos Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu> Follow us at Twitter / @NYUart<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FNYUart=02%7C01%7C%7Cd15e30be6ecd48ecfd3208d597ef8d90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636581977483568753=p%2FgClFfX8cNduz5tbbMjk%2F9937lMzaFbrXZc%2BJFq1cI%3D=0> Instagram / @nyuart<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Finstagram.com%2Fnyuart=02%7C01%7C%7Cd15e30be6ecd48ecfd3208d597ef8d90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636581977483568753=XhapIqeqV%2B%2FmtTH%2FDIOQMmtOS2simXBWJBN6484%2Bwwo%3D=0> Facebook / NYU Art Department<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpages%2FNYU-Art-Department%2F53833145389=02%7C01%7C%7Cd15e30be6ecd48ecfd3208d597ef8d90%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636581977483568753=utPZT0z7KsE%2FSIBru5yvsKov9h3H0KW93JNJyZN%2Bdqo%3D=0> -- You received th
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dead end
Olivia, I found this record in Capelo for Francisco Pereira Faria: Francisco Pereira de Faria http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=capelo;lang=en;p=francisco+pereira+de;n=faria;oc=3 He is married to Inacia Eugenia, but the dates for her don't match what you included. I did not search for the original records. They have a daughter Maria, with a birthdate in 1834. There is no other information included about her. Hope this helps. Diane George -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Olivia Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 1:46 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dead end Yes it is Faria not Garia. My autocorrect kicked in. I'm excited because people seem to have information for me -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7C4f65efb30f9a48412fae08d58abc2119%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636567462960104886=cbzuhTnhXS%2FZjADgUV4hAH1LO0He24MJq9B%2BEhFUPUQ%3D=0. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dead end
JR, Could Francisco Pereira Garia be Francisco Pereira Faria? I don’t have time right to give you the details of why that’s possible but will later if necessary. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JR Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:27 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dead end http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=capelo;lang=pt;p=francisco+pereira;n=garcia;oc=1 Are the above yours? Data shows, Francisco Pereira [Garcia] married to Maria Inacia, May 11- 1822. He is son of Jose Correia Garcia and Felicia de Sao Jose. she is daughter of Francisco Dutra Goularte and Inacia Maria. You can the names are very similar and you be able to cross them against the grandparents of the children in your files. JR On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 6:52:13 PM UTC-4, Olivia wrote: I've come to a dead end on my family tree. I left my grandfather's side for last thinking it would be the easiest, but it was not to be. All I have is Maria Eugenia de Andrade born in Capelo, Faial. Her parents were Francisco Pereira de Garia, Capelo and Inacia Eugenia 1797-1842, Capelo. Hoping someone has some information. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7C6ded88f962974a9e1d5208d58a3dcc99%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636566920388131570=dZMAMZ8WgNIzu2uOU6fxPeBDyryIkmOWft8uXTg4zGQ%3D=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
Hi, Gordon, I agree with Susan--not likely to be Fremont. All the Portuguese societies in California merged in 2010 into the Portuguese Fraternal Society of America. A brief statement of the formation and organizations that merged is included on the website at http://www.mypfsa.org/about-us/#/. You may also be able to contact them via email or telephone. Diane George -Original Message- From: 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 5:27 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group Hi Gordon, I’m wondering where you are reading that your grandfather was a founding member etc? I don’t know the answer but the city of Fremont was formed in late 1950s from most of the towns that were Washington Township so I doubt that FM stood for that if what you are reading refers to a time before 1960. My father lived in Centerville which eventually became part of Fremont and had a policy from SES. I know I had to contact the organization located in San Jose in order to collect on the policy when he died. Doesn’t answer your question, but I wouldn’t guess that it stands for Fremont. Maybe Fraternal Men’s? Even tho I have never seen that tagged on? Susan Vargas Murphy Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy > <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find > PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they > are now part of PFSA). > > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares <gws...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM > > Fremont is > what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland. Any > idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such > organizations? I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be. > > Sent > from my iPhone > On Jan 28, > 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > FM may be Freemont. Someone more > familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, > "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Oakland ca . At one point > lived on Adeline Street .Gordon > > On Jan > 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote: > SES > is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of > the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What > city was your ancestor in? > > On Jan > 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares" <gws...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM > Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares was > supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the President for > awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know what the SESFM > stands for. > > > > Gordon Soares > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroup s.com. > > Visit this group at > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgrou > ps.google.com%2Fgrou=02%7C01%7C%7Cebf44b193c904172dfe608d566b7726 > d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636527860432509248 > a=rJiy%2BTjm4zxHMIDaEdZzTqz%2FovZ4loxyxxWfK8B%2F15g%3D=0 > p/azores. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgrou > ps.google.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cebf44b193c904172dfe608d566b7726d%7C > 84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636527860432509248=fX > qpB1UFZllUeMHhBOW9XLSFio0xI%2BOptfWCt0GFUPw%3D=0 > group/azores. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgrou > ps.google.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cebf44b193c904172dfe608d566
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores GenWeb has a new home!
Thank you for doing that. I also went to the Mediterranean Genweb Project at WorldGenWeb to see what they have for the Azores. The link in the Country Index for Azores goes to the Rootsweb site for the Azores Gen Web site with their “RootsWeb is currently unavailable” page. (There is an update on the Rootsweb site for today.) I send many people to your pages so am really happy to see it up. Thanks again! Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cardoza Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 8:42 AM To: Azores Google Group <Azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores GenWeb has a new home! Due to the ongoing (with no end in site) troubles of Rootsweb, I have moved the Azores GenWeb site to a new location (server) so we are back online. Please bookmark the new site at: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldgenweb.org%2Fazrwgw%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C716b60eb866b4958cad908d5577fe892%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636511129233121473=sWqS1rdguyQ7hqE6PkXvkIfqnh%2BZYFYGrX6cl17A%2F%2FY%3D=0> Thank you, Kathy Cardoza Coordinator ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldgenweb.org%2Fazrwgw%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C716b60eb866b4958cad908d5577fe892%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636511129233121473=sWqS1rdguyQ7hqE6PkXvkIfqnh%2BZYFYGrX6cl17A%2F%2FY%3D=0> ~~~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fazores=02%7C01%7C%7C716b60eb866b4958cad908d5577fe892%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636511129233121473=0LojQfC6G%2BHplbbq12YUkJa8baafQO%2B86MbbUu%2B%2FlRA%3D=0>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Web
A Heads Up! The Azores Genealogy Resources site at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw is down. Ancestry took the Rootsweb site down to work on it. There is more information in the blog post link at the end of the message that appears when you go to the site. Rootsweb is currently unavailable Rootsweb is currently unavailable. We have been in the process of improving the site throughout 2017, and as a result of an issue we recently became aware of, we have taken the site offline while we work to resolve it. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but protecting our users' personal information is our top priority. During this down time, we are working to preserve all data saved to Rootsweb, and hope to have an update within a few weeks. If you would like to learn more, please visit our blog post.<https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2017/12/23/rootsweb-security-update/> Diane George -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Dna match
Hi, The files you posted that end in .txt have nothing in them. They are all the same size and blank. I tried several programs that should be able to read them and none work. It looks like Kandi only intended to send you the images of the tree, the .png files. I don’t think she actually included anything else on purpose. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Perez Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 4:03 PM To: Azores Genealogy Google Group <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Dna match -- Forwarded message -- From: Kandi Costa <kandico...@outlook.com<mailto:kandico...@outlook.com>> Date: Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 7:56 AM Subject: Dna match To: Sandra Perez <perezsandra...@gmail.com<mailto:perezsandra...@gmail.com>> Sandra I apologize for taking so long to get back to you. I took screen shots of my husband's tree that had the names you sent. I will try to attach them to this email if you don't get them let me know. Do you have a tree at Ancestry.com? Have a great day! Kandi -- Sandra Perez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help
Here is a link to the app store<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/families/id379619019>. The application is called “Families” and is not too difficult to install. You can copy the needed files from your Legacy files to the iPad. There is also a free download of a program for your PC that lets you sync the data from Families with your Legacy files. Families website is at http://www.telgen.co.uk/families/ . You can go there to get the syncing program and more information about the program. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Liz Migliori Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:46 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help OMG. What a mess I thought I was doing a good thing by getting an iPad No what a mess What do I get??? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote: I use a program on a Windows PC. For my phone, I use GEDStar Pro (not to be confused with other things starting with GED). I somehow got Rosemarie C to download her stuff from Legacy into GEDStar Pro (an Android app). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Lee <shorts...@suddenlink.net<mailto:shorts...@suddenlink.net>> wrote: The app you're looking for is Families. That is the one that works through the cloud with Legacy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA Project News email
I did not receive it. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 10:30 AM To: Azores Genealogy <Azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores DNA Project News email Did any existing FTDNA customers get the email that I sent through the FTDNA system regarding the DNA Project? It basically reminded people to upload their Gedcom, the project was growing, the conference in Salt Lake. And maybe a couple of other things. FTDNA said it went out. The few people I've asked said they didn't get it. So I need more than a few to tell me that they didn't get it. Thanks! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA down for just me or everyone else?
Thanks! That’s really helpful and quick. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of João Ventura Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 12:24 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA down for just me or everyone else? You can check if it's only you or also others here: https://status.tombo.pt/778734960 The seem to be down since April 28th at 19:30. João Ventura On Friday, 28 April 2017 21:42:10 UTC+2, Joanne wrote: Wondering if it’s because I’m at a genealogy conference that I can't access the site from here. Please advise - thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dealing with multiple names
I use the same method Jeremy does—birth name is the main name, with alternative names in the AKA fields in my genealogy program. It shows all the names in the index so that you can search for any of the names and find the person. The software is Legacy, by the way. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:35 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dealing with multiple names What I'm trying to get a feel for...do most people just basically put the names together, or do they actually use the alternate name thingy in the genealogy program? I'm asking because Gedcom has a the Name and then they have the Alternate name. I have an idea that most of us just use the main name and list things like John Dewey "Bud" Smith. Or we use the memo say the appeared as John D. Smith on the census. So that's what I'm asking here. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:23 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote: In my genealogy program I have an AKA field too. In almost all cases I use the primary name spelling for the way they were born. Then I enter any alternates in the AKA. i.e Jose Machado Cardoso AKA Joe Machado Cardoza etcetera... Jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Infant mortality rates 1700's - Azores
Here is one list from Wikipedia of natural disasters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_disasters_in_the_Azores#18th_century Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louie Avila Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:31 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Infant mortality rates 1700's - Azores Is it just Sao Jorge or did all the islands of the Azores have high mortality rates in the late 1700's? It just aches my heart when looking through Obits and seeing so many for your children (birth to 10 years old). I've been trying to Google it but having a hard time finding out why ... Louie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage Users - Request for Gedcom help
If you go to “Family Tree” on the top menu on the My Heritage site, she can export to a GEDCOM using the “Actions” column for the tree in question (if she has multiple trees). Here’s a screenshot: [cid:image001.jpg@01D28F6A.16A4F360] If you need more detail, let me know and I will do it in a Word document. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:34 PM To: Azores Genealogy <Azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Heritage Users - Request for Gedcom help I have a DNA project member who keeps her tree on My Heritage. I don't use My Heritage. I told her to do an Internet search for: my heritage gedcom and to make a Gedcom. She sent me a screen shot from her cell phone that said to click on the link to download it. I told her to click the link and save it to her desktop. Then she sends me another message about IMPORTING her tree to MyHeritage. We need EXPORTING. Anyone know how to make a Gedcom from MyHeritage? I need step by step directions with screen shots. In either Portuguese or English, it doesn't matter. Thanks! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas
The word in front of the father’s name looks “Mestre” or Master. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Mercier Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:27 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen before? Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual) Joanne Grota Mercier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes
I tried it in all four browsers, IE, Edge, Firefox and Chrome and only get a partial image. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:32 AM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes Yeah, well, they said it's my problem with my browser and I'm pretty sure it's not. They say it displays fine on their end with IE. It drives me crazy when there's a technical problem and IT people say, "Well just use _." (Fill in with the browser of your choice). FTDNA likes to say "Use Chrome." The CCA likes to say "Use IE." Cmon now, we can't be bouncing around like that. It needs to display correctly on ALL browsers or someone's not doing their job in quality control. And if it's one image, that should mean the error is on their end. But you can't tell them that. Let's see what others are seeing and I'll report it back to them. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <rickredle...@gmail.com<mailto:rickredle...@gmail.com>> wrote: I am using EDGE and I get the half image. All other images are normal they may have a corrupt file on their server. rick From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:18 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes I was using the Ponta Delgada Passaportes last night. As I went through image 120, 121, etc, I came to image 130. Only half the image loaded. I tried the image after. It completely loaded. Since I was on Firefox, I tried Chrome. It didn't load there. I emailed the CCA and they said to use Internet Explorer (on one image??) I have a newer computer and they don't have IE anymore. They have Edge. I had the same display program. What do you guys see? Any idea of how to get that one image to display? http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915_item1/P130.html Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means
Louie, The original death record is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-O-1880-1889_item1/P149.html. There is no mention of “Fredona” but there is a reference to “faja redonda” in the context of where the house where Jose died. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LouieLouieOhOh Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 11:37 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means Cheri, Here is the site ... http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=ribeiraseca=pt=NG=Jose+Francisco+Azevedo=PN Louie On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 10:03:53 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: You mean CITCEM? (Old acronym - NEPS) Only freguesia on CITCEM for Sao Jorge island is Ribeira Seca. Not Norte Grande. There's lots of mistakes in CITCEM. You should check the original records. You don't say where this Jose Francisco Azevedo died or post any link. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, LouieLouieOhOh <louielo...@gmail.com> wrote: While browsing the uminho.pt<http://uminho.pt> site, I came across this: José Francisco Azevedo * Born on 1 January 1826 - N.Grande,N.S.Neves * Died on 23 November 1889 - rs/Fredonda * Age at death: 63 years old Does anyone know what "rs/Fredonda" represents? Louie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soldado Pago
Thank you for giving me more detail. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ângela Loura Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:34 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soldado Pago Bom dia Diane, Google "Guerra da Restauração". Soldados pagos had a legal contract, this was their profession during that time of períod (that's why some ran off). Mercenaries also existed, but belonged to another rank. ____ De: Diane George<mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> Enviado: 02/11/2016 06:03 Para: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Soldado Pago Hi, Recently while searching baptism records on CCA for Flamengos in the early 1700s, I am seeing a lot of records showing the father’s occupation as “soldado pago” which Google translates to paid soldier. Does this mean “mercenary” or does it have some other meaning? Someone suggested that it means a soldier who serves for 8 years. Any ideas. Diane George -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Soldado Pago
Hi, Recently while searching baptism records on CCA for Flamengos in the early 1700s, I am seeing a lot of records showing the father's occupation as "soldado pago" which Google translates to paid soldier. Does this mean "mercenary" or does it have some other meaning? Someone suggested that it means a soldier who serves for 8 years. Any ideas. Diane George -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA
Cheri, The code I have is SFTTHOMAS16. The one listed below doesn’t work. The price drops to $16.99 from $19.99. Thanks for the info and links. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:25 AM To: Azores Genealogy <Azores@googlegroups.com>; prt-made...@rootsweb.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA (Cross posted again) Carole M from the Azores list found a discount code for the new book, "The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T. Bettinger. If you order from the publisher (link below) and use the discount code SFTTHOMAS1, you can get the book for $17 USD. Also, I was mistaken on my original post. The book will sell for $30 USD, but is being sold on Amazon and elsewhere for the sale price of $20 USD. I guess at some point it will go for the retail price of $30. This is the paperback price. The Kindle or E-reader prices are a bit less. Thanks, Carole! https://goo.gl/TzLZXj Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com <mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote: (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists) "The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T. Bettinger will be officially published by Family Tree Publishers (hence the words "The Family Tree" in the book title) on Oct. 13th for about $20 USD. The reviews so far are pretty good. I've included Judy Russell's, The Legal Genealogist, review below. https://goo.gl/hxfo3u I hope to get my copy from Blaine in November! Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA-Madalena-links are not correct and translation of an death record with multiple people.
Hi, Has anyone tried to use the Madalena, Pico data at CCA today? The links in the left menu are all " <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1633 -1709/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1633-1709_item1/P1.html> PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1633-1709." They go to specific pages, but you have to hover over the link to see what page is actually being linked. The URL is displayed correctly once you load the page. In that data while searching for some death records, I found the following page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1633- 1709/PIC-MD-MADALENA-O-1633-1709_item1/P95.html I can't translate all of it, but it looks like it is a series of Names, with ages and origins, both males and females. Can anyone figure out what it is-a shipwreck maybe? The origins appear to from different places in the islands. The ages vary widely also. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Thanks for the input on the abbreviations. My conclusion is to use Martins, not Moniz. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cesar Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:32 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; Cesar Pimentel <cesarpimentel@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations Ual Angela, Phenomenal! You got it on some website? Thank you, Cesar Pimentel cesarpimentel@hotmail.com <mailto:cesarpimentel@hotmail.com> _ De: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com < <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com> em nome de Ângela Loura < <mailto:angelalo...@gmail.com> angelalo...@gmail.com> Enviado: segunda-feira, 11 de julho de 2016 20:33 Para: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations 2016-07-11 22:04 GMT+01:00 Ângela Loura <angelalo...@gmail.com <mailto:angelalo...@gmail.com> >: What's the University of Minho's source? The book of portuguese paleographic abbreviations states that 'Miz" is Martins. 2016-07-11 19:11 GMT+01:00 Diane George <digeorg...@hotmail.com <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> >: Hi, I have two different results from two sources of Portuguese name lists for the abbreviation “Miz.” One list says it is “Martins” and one says “Moniz.” Anybody know which one is correct? The University of Minho database shows it as “Moniz” in one record and “Martins” in the other. Here is the example below. António Maria Vieira Bezerra Born - São Roque do Pico Parents João Vieira Isabel Moniz Marriages and children Married on 17 January 1598 to Bárbara Manuel, with Maria João 1598 João Vieira 1599 Filipe ? 1602 Roque ? 1604 Francisco ? 1607 Susana Manuel 1610 Bárbara Manuel 1613 Águeda ? 1615 Isabel Martins Maciel 1616 In the CCA marriage record for Antonio Maria Vieira to Barbara Manuel, the mother’s name is shown as “Izabel Miz” ( <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P8.html> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P8.html , top left) and in the marriage record for the daughter of Antonio and Barbara, Isabel Martins Maciel is shown in the marriage record ( <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P200.html> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P200.html , bottom record) as “Izabel Miz Maciel.” Any suggestions? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to Li
[AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Hi, I have two different results from two sources of Portuguese name lists for the abbreviation “Miz.” One list says it is “Martins” and one says “Moniz.” Anybody know which one is correct? The University of Minho database shows it as “Moniz” in one record and “Martins” in the other. Here is the example below. António Maria Vieira Bezerra Born - São Roque do Pico Parents João Vieira Isabel Moniz Marriages and children Married on 17 January 1598 to Bárbara Manuel, with Maria João 1598 João Vieira 1599 Filipe ? 1602 Roque ? 1604 Francisco ? 1607 Susana Manuel 1610 Bárbara Manuel 1613 Águeda ? 1615 Isabel Martins Maciel 1616 In the CCA marriage record for Antonio Maria Vieira to Barbara Manuel, the mother’s name is shown as “Izabel Miz” ( <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593 -1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P8.html> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593- 1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P8.html , top left) and in the marriage record for the daughter of Antonio and Barbara, Isabel Martins Maciel is shown in the marriage record ( <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593 -1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P200.html> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593- 1675/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-C-1593-1675_item1/P200.html , bottom record) as “Izabel Miz Maciel.” Any suggestions? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alexander Souza immigration challenge
Hi, At least some of the UPEC records are online at Ancestry at in a collection of death and burial records. California, Death and Burial Records from Select Counties, 1873-1987 http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 This might make the search easier. I don’t know if all the UPEC records are included or not. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:18 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alexander Souza immigration challenge Eric, what exactly are you trying to find? Your grandfather's place between his landing in the US and his marriage?? I don't think that you are going to find out how he ended up in Saucelito unless he had family he was coming to live with?? We sometimes find all of the docs we can and still never know the reasoning behind a move to a certain place. Usually it's because they had other Portuguese from their village or family in that place. I see that you haven't looked at the UPEC records for that area. I will look at the film on Tues when I go to work at the Family History Cntr here and see what I can find for you. Rosemarie <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Eric Souza <ericcharles.so...@gmail.com <mailto:ericcharles.so...@gmail.com> > wrote: Dear Conterrâneos, I’ve been researching my Souza family heritage (Souza, Borba and Cunha descendants from São Jorge) and specifically how my great-grandfather came to Sausalito in the late 1800s (or possibly very early 1900s). A few months ago, this forum helped me identify the birth record for my great-grandfather, Alexander Souza <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html> , from Topo. I'm so grateful! My great-grandfather, Alexander Souza, was born August 7, 1882, in Topo, São Jorge, and died March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. His parents were Manoel Jozé da Cunha and Roza Delfina – he was the only son with the Souza surname – his four siblings were all named da Cunha, but his grandparents were de Sousa de Borba (which is likely why he was named Souza?). He had three sisters on São Jorge, and one brother - João da Cunha (born 1885 on São Jorge). He was also known on his probate (here is a link to download his probate <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57041182/Alex-Souza-Probate.pdf> ) as “Alexander Souza Borba” and “Alexander S Borba”. Family legend says he was a whaler. Since there are no records that I have found for him immigrating legally (no voting records in Marin County, CA, or listings on the Atlantic ship manifests into New Bedford), I am guessing he came over illegally on a whaling boat in 1897 or early 1898 when he was 15, to avoid conscription to the Portuguese military – required at age 16. He might have come on a whaling ship to one of the east coast ports. If so, once he jumped ship in New England (I’m assuming New Bedford), he would have likely taken the train over to San Francisco. I have been in contact with the New Bedford Whaling Museum, and they said they only have records of the whalemen who shipped from the port of New Bedford. But if I can identify the name of a vessel, they I could contact Joan Barney, the librarian in the genealogy room at the New Bedford library. Apparently, they have some shipping records in their collection for a select number of vessels and some of them do list the names of those who joined mid-voyage. Again, that's all speculation on my part. There were no Atlantic whalers that went on pacific voyages after 1892, so he wouldn't have taken a boat directly to San Francisco. There is no record that I have found of him between his birth and his marriage in 1907 to Mary Catan Mancebo in Sausalito. There were dairies in Sausalito and Mill Valley (specifically Tennessee Valley) that were owned by immigrants from São Jorge. A da Cunha family (I think it was Manoel Ferreira da Cunha, born Oct 1848, São Jorge) owned a large dairy there. Then there was another dairy shown on the 1880 Census by partners Antonio Souza (born about 1850), Antonio Borba (1853), August Silva (1846) and Manuel Souza (1859). I'm guessing that these were possibly cousins, but I haven't been able to identify the connection to any of them. There was also an Alexander Souza showing up in Point Reyes (western Marin County) on the 1900 census, but the ages don’t match up … also an Alexander Souza Borba in the East Bay ... my Alex's padrinho was Alexandre de Souza de Borba (born 1857) ... So that's a basic recap of where I am in my search for how Alexander Souza ended up in Sausalito! I've talked with the IDESST
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin Notations in Cedros Death Records
Faial. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of luiznoia . Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:23 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin Notations in Cedros Death Records Cedros, Faial, or Cedros, Flores ? Eric Edgar. On Jun 8, 2016 11:54 AM, "Diane George" <digeorg...@hotmail.com <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> > wrote: I have been going through Cedros death records in the late 1600s and early 1700s and almost all of the records have a note in the margin under the name of the deceased. Most are “Rua” with nothing else, which is “street.” I also find “vale verde” which I think is “green valley” and “ribeira funda” which may be “deep river.” There are others, but I can’t read or translate most of them. Anyone have any idea what these are? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Margin Notations in Cedros Death Records
I have been going through Cedros death records in the late 1600s and early 1700s and almost all of the records have a note in the margin under the name of the deceased. Most are "Rua" with nothing else, which is "street." I also find "vale verde" which I think is "green valley" and "ribeira funda" which may be "deep river." There are others, but I can't read or translate most of them. Anyone have any idea what these are? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton
With the help of Google Translate, here is what I get for the columns: Date Year Month Day Passport Number Names Status Profession Age Characterisics Height Shape of Face Hair Color Eyebrow Color Eye Color Nose Mouth Coloring Destination Accompanied By Nativity Island Council Frequesia Knows How to Write (Yes or No) Name of Ship Comments I can’t decipher all the contents of the columns, but the face shape includes round, colors include brown, black and blue, coloring includes swarthy and clear. Still working on some of the others that might be abbreviated. I saved the page from CCA to my desktop, then used the built-in Windows Photo viewer (Windows 10-Photos) by double-clicking on the image. I was able to enlarge it to a much higher magnification than on the CCA site. The Photo viewer also has some built-in editing tools that allow you to enhance the image. Hope this helps some. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Migliori Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:44 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P10.html Can someone please tell me what all is said on this passport page. Both the 3rd and 4th lines from top Manuel Correia da Silva #65 Jose Silveira Santa #66 can only blow up so far and can't tell what columns are for Liz -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program
Tish, I use xampp on my Windows 10 computer to test it locally. The web host I use has the necessary PHP and MySQL versions needed for the software. I think Lythgoe is only charging $15.00 for an installation—you might check on the website. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tish M Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 5:39 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program Diane, Are you using MAMP or WAMP on your computer to have it run? I remember there was a bit of a learning curve (I stopped at V8), but found it a very powerful program. I just got it today, but haven't fooled with it yet. I put MAMP on yesterday, and with the help of my 9 year old grandson have MAMP running. I would be surprised by putting on V11 if it will just come in seamlessly, but I will soon find out (either tonight or tomorrow). I might be in contact with you although I have to say, the owner of the program is very prompt and good at getting you up and running. Also, there is a great forum on line with very good programmers to help, also. Tish On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Diane George <digeorg...@hotmail.com <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> > wrote: This is TNG, a website building application for genealogy. It creates a website that is database-driven. You can upload a gedcom to populate the site or manually add your data. Get more info at http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/. I have created a couple of sites with it, but none are currently active while I am continuing to do research. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program Do you mean TMG (the Master Genealogist)? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tish M Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:23 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program Hi, I know not too long someone mentioned using the TNG genealogy program. I have used it in the past (when I had it on a web site), but stopped using it when I took the web site down. I am again somewhat interested and would like to discuss the program with any users. You can email me personally or send it through the group. Thanks, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit t
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program
This is TNG, a website building application for genealogy. It creates a website that is database-driven. You can upload a gedcom to populate the site or manually add your data. Get more info at http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/. I have created a couple of sites with it, but none are currently active while I am continuing to do research. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program Do you mean TMG (the Master Genealogist)? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tish M Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:23 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] TNG Genealogy program Hi, I know not too long someone mentioned using the TNG genealogy program. I have used it in the past (when I had it on a web site), but stopped using it when I took the web site down. I am again somewhat interested and would like to discuss the program with any users. You can email me personally or send it through the group. Thanks, Tish -- sfig Researching Island: Santa Maria Freguesia: Santa Barbara -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Gen Web Project Site Down
Hi, I am getting the following error whenever I try to access http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/. We are experiencing some temporary Rootsweb site problems. We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause. Our development and web operations teams are working on the problem and we will have it resolved as quickly as possible. Thank-you for your patience. This is happening with Rootsweb generally as well, not just the Azores Gen Web Project. Anyone know what's happening-the message has been appearing at least since Wednesday the 24th. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] New Special Interest Group in Danville, California
* We finally set up a Special Interest Group for Azores researchers in the San Ramon Valley Genealogical Society. The first meeting will be on February 17, 2016, at 1:15 pm in the Danville Family History Center, 2949 Stone Valley Rd, Alamo, in the Relief Society Room. At the first meeting, we will determine if there is enough interest to continue with regular meetings. We will discuss resources for Azores researchers, including databases, digital images, help for translation of records and help each other to figure out some of the information, particularly in the Portuguese language records from Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores (CCA). We will also discuss some of the social media resources for researchers, as well as DNA sites. Bring your laptops. We usually have room to set them up unless we get a very large group. There is a wi-fi connection so we can get online. Let me know if you can make it (digeorg...@hotmail.com) and tell your friends (and relatives) about it. Looking forward to meeting you all. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revamp of the Azores GenWeb
Nice work! Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cardoza Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:05 PM To: Azores Google Group <Azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revamp of the Azores GenWeb I did a rework of the Azores GenWeb site and just got it published tonight. I hope it simplifies everything. If you find anything amiss, please let me know. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site is back!
I have only checked Faial, Feteira, Baptismos and Casamentos on the CCA site and those are back! I will keep checking to see if everything is back. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??
Here is a link to the new help pages: http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/help . The Help page will clarify some of the questions about the new site. Even though the help is there, I don't think everything on the site is working yet. I got to that link by clicking on the question mark on the right side of the menu. Diane George -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of linda Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:02 AM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down?? It looks like they're changing the page format and/or the viewer: http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/viewer?id=1021142 As of 8:00am Pacific time the link works and goes to a page with thumbnail images on the left with a main image of a registry page to their right. It's similar to the format we're accustomed to but updated. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda?
Thank you very much for the extra info. I believe this to be the death record for my eighth great grandfather. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 6:29 PM To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda? I can add to the 2nd page and to what Bill Seider wrote and as I read .George (Jorge) Pereira de.Lacerda that he was leaving the "terça" which translates to one third of his wealth/estate to his wife, Ana? Gomes during her life and after his wife their sons George (Jorge) Pereira and Joseph (Jose) Pereira "com obrigacao selada" with sealed obligation of giving to his Pedro Dutra "quatro mil reis" 4 thousand kings (monetary) and to leave more ...his son Manuel Dutra under the condition ...left one slave by the name of Margarida...etc. On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Diane George <digeorg...@hotmail.com <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> > wrote: Thanks—It does help. Diane George From: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com [mailto: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of <mailto:bsei2...@gmail.com> bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 2:14 PM To: Azores Genealogy < <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda? This handwriting is very difficult, but I think I can make out some parts. I agree with what Shirley wrote, but I would lean more towards 70 years of age. I cannot find where it says who he was married to as it seems to go directly into his will. There is something about leaving something for his soul then mentions a chapel (capela, 6th line from bottom of first page) of ?? for poor children (I think it says crianças pobres on next line). The first line on the second page identifies the executor (testamenteiro) as his son George Pedro (Dutra) Lacerda (I think Dutra was written after-the-fact in the right margin). I also see the name Margarida on the sixth line from the bottom but do not know where this person fits in. Not much, but I hope it helps. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda?
Thanks—It does help. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 2:14 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda? This handwriting is very difficult, but I think I can make out some parts. I agree with what Shirley wrote, but I would lean more towards 70 years of age. I cannot find where it says who he was married to as it seems to go directly into his will. There is something about leaving something for his soul then mentions a chapel (capela, 6th line from bottom of first page) of ?? for poor children (I think it says crianças pobres on next line). The first line on the second page identifies the executor (testamenteiro) as his son George Pedro (Dutra) Lacerda (I think Dutra was written after-the-fact in the right margin). I also see the name Margarida on the sixth line from the bottom but do not know where this person fits in. Not much, but I hope it helps. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda?
Thanks! Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 11:46 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda? Diane: This is what it (kind of) looks like to me: ALFERES Pedro Dutra de Faria, native this freguesia of Santa Catarina DOD 7 Sep 1711 age either setenta or secenta = 70 or 60 years, plus or minus received the sacraments I can't read the rest. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Diane George <mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com> To: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:49 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda? Hi, I can’t translate the death record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P169.html , bottom entry, left page and top right page. It appears to be for Pedro Dutra de Faria with death on 7 September 1711, but I can’t translate enough of the rest of it to make sense of it. I hope someone can help. Thanks. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda?
Hi, I can't translate the death record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O- 1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P169.html , bottom entry, left page and top right page. It appears to be for Pedro Dutra de Faria with death on 7 September 1711, but I can't translate enough of the rest of it to make sense of it. I hope someone can help. Thanks. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTM Issue with Windows 10
I have been able to run FTM 2014 with Windows 10. I also installed a recent update for FTM and it is still working. I don’t use it routinely, but it is synced with Ancestry and the sync worked, adding one update from my Ancestry tree, a person and a source. Ancestry.com shows a message saying that it is not compatible with the new Edge browser, but I have used it to search and review hints with no problems except the message that pops up saying it is not compatible with Edge. If that’s a problem for anyone using Windows 10 (e.g., you don’t have another browser like Chrome or Firefox installed, click on the three dots in the upper right corner of the Edge screen beneath the “X.” used for closing the window. Select “Open with Internet Explorer” from the menu that appears. A new window in Internet Explorer will open for the page you were on with all the functionality, bookmarks, etc., that you had in IE before the upgrade. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:46 AM To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTM Issue with Windows 10 Hello all; This may be a bit off subject but; since others are talking about FTM issues, I thought I would ask if anyone else has been unable to run FTM 2014 with Windows 10. From all that I have read and in contacting Nova Development and Ancestry.com, FTM 2014 is NOT compatible with Windows 10. They say I would have to roll back to FTM 16 for it to work with Windows 10. Not sure what I would lose in my records that are on FTM 2014 if I were to uninstall and reinstall FTM 16 so, haven't done that. I'm just curious if anyone has been successful in running FTM 2014 with Windows 10 and if anyone has any idea when/if they plan on doing FTM 2015? Thanks to all, Sam (Camas, WA) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Isabel?
Thank you—that clarifies what I was seeing. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Isabel? Hi Diane, It seems that she was baptized in the house Agada, daughter of Roque, by Agada, and the priest only documented it, as said by Agada. Best Regards, Geraldo 2015-02-27 18:31 GMT-03:00 Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com : Hi, I am having trouble figuring out the baptism record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1582-1622/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1582-1622_item1/P142.html According to the NEPS database, Isabel was born on 1 Aug 1618 and is the child of Manuel Martins Cardoso and Leonor Ferreira. (http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SRoquePico;lang=en;p=isabel;n=ferreira;oc=1) I am fairly sure that this record is from 1 Aug 1618 and that Isabel is named in it, but it looks like more than one person was baptized or something else that I can’t figure out. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Isabel?
Hi, I am having trouble figuring out the baptism record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1582- 1622/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1582-1622_item1/P142.html According to the NEPS database, Isabel was born on 1 Aug 1618 and is the child of Manuel Martins Cardoso and Leonor Ferreira. (http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SRoquePico;lang=en;p=isabel; n=ferreira;oc=1) I am fairly sure that this record is from 1 Aug 1618 and that Isabel is named in it, but it looks like more than one person was baptized or something else that I can't figure out. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Isabel?
Maybe the names I think I am seeing, e.g. Agada, are the godparents. Thanks for the help. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:49 PM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Isabel? Hi Diane, It looks like Isabel was baptized in the casa..I just see one child baptized in the record. The one directly above it is for twins. Nancy Jean _ From: digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Isabel? Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:31:22 -0800 Hi, I am having trouble figuring out the baptism record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1582-1622/PIC-SR-SAOROQUE-B-1582-1622_item1/P142.html According to the NEPS database, Isabel was born on 1 Aug 1618 and is the child of Manuel Martins Cardoso and Leonor Ferreira. (http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SRoquePico;lang=en;p=isabel;n=ferreira;oc=1 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SRoquePico%3blang=en%3bp=isabel%3bn=ferreira%3boc=1 ) I am fairly sure that this record is from 1 Aug 1618 and that Isabel is named in it, but it looks like more than one person was baptized or something else that I can’t figure out. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help for Death Record
Thank you very much, Margaret. That was a great help. I had never seen multiple deaths in one record. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 6:54 AM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help for Death Record Diane, The priest wrote multiple deaths in the same obit. I've seen it before in the case of accidents when they hall happened to die together but in this case the priest does not specify. Here's the gist of it: On January 23rd 1705 we buried Francisco De Utra Machado and Maria da Rosa wife of Francisco of rua de cima street above naturals and living in this parish of Santa Catarina, Castelo Branco Place of this island of Faiial. First burial is located in the middle of the principal door/entrance door On the 2nd page you can better read as he wrote: All received the Sacraments and for his soul the wife of Francisco Gularte was obligated of ordering masses said for his soul. etc Because some of the belong to the Society of the Souls they had extra prayers said for themand he closing Deceased are Francisco De Utra Machado, 60 years old. Antonio Alvernas, 65 years old and Maria da Rosa, 21 years old. On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been searching for the death record for Francisco Dutra Machado on January 22, 1705. I found a record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P122.html (bottom entry, right page), continuing onto the next page. I see his name in the record, but the rest of it does not look like anything I have seen before so I am having difficulty translating the rest. Can anyone help? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help for Death Record
Hi, I have been searching for the death record for Francisco Dutra Machado on January 22, 1705. I found a record at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O- 1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P122.html (bottom entry, right page), continuing onto the next page. I see his name in the record, but the rest of it does not look like anything I have seen before so I am having difficulty translating the rest. Can anyone help? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Passport columns?
Thank you for the list. It will help greatly. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evee Silva Kiler Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 5:59 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com; kmacard...@me.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Passport columns? These are the columns I tried to translate for 1885 out of Horta: Datas (Date) Anno Year Mes Month Dia Day Numero de Passporte Passport # Nomes Name Estado Marital Status Profissao Profession Edado Age Signaes (signs/characteristics) Altura Height Rosto Face Cabello Hair Sobrolhos Eyebrows Olhos Eyes Naris Nose Bocca Mouth Cor Color Destino Destination Quem leva em sua companhia Who is with you Naturalidade (place of birth) Ilha Island Conselho Council Freguesia Parish Sabe escrever Can Write Nome do Navio Ship Name Observacoes Observations Evee On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:05:59 PM UTC-7, Kathy Andrade Cardoza wrote: Like a lot of us, I'm sure, I'm enjoying looking for ancestors in the Horta passports. I can read most of the column headings; name, age, status, occupation, where born, ship name, destination ... But, what are the other column headings? Does anyone have a breakdown of these. Maybe I need new glasses, LOL. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eazrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns?
Thanks! It does help. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 3:58 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns? Not all follow the same patern but I had a look for one in 1920. In order, left to right: - Dates (year, month, day) - Passport number - Names - Marital status - Profession - Age - sinaes caracteristicos Unique charactristics (height, face, hair, sob-olhos lit. under the eyes, eyes, nose, mouth, colour). sob-olhos threw me for a loop, what is so unique about one's lower lid ? - Destination - Others traveling with - Places of birth (islands, councils, vilages) - for vilages read also Parishes - Ability to write (male, female) - Ship's name - Obsevations Had a quick look at others from previuos years and the order is not exactly the same! That is it in a nut shell. Hope that it helps. Hermano _ From: digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns? Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 13:48:37 -0800 I’m with Kathy. I can figure out some, but not all the headings. If anyone knows where to find the info about the headings, it would really help. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cardoza Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:06 PM To: Azores Google Group Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns? Like a lot of us, I'm sure, I'm enjoying looking for ancestors in the Horta passports. I can read most of the column headings; name, age, status, occupation, where born, ship name, destination ... But, what are the other column headings? Does anyone have a breakdown of these. Maybe I need new glasses, LOL. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns?
I’m with Kathy. I can figure out some, but not all the headings. If anyone knows where to find the info about the headings, it would really help. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cardoza Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:06 PM To: Azores Google Group Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport columns? Like a lot of us, I'm sure, I'm enjoying looking for ancestors in the Horta passports. I can read most of the column headings; name, age, status, occupation, where born, ship name, destination ... But, what are the other column headings? Does anyone have a breakdown of these. Maybe I need new glasses, LOL. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eazrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/index.html ~~~ -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genetic Distance on Y-DNA
Thanks for the info. My nephew has one 0 GD match, but the other person has almost no information that can be substantiated about the ancestors of the person who matches. The chart makes it a little easier to explain the match and its significance. Diane George (Silva) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 5:55 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genetic Distance on Y-DNA Since a few results from the beginning of the Holiday DNA Sale will begin to hit us next week, I thought now might be a good time to go over this. Y-DNA: The top of the pedigree chart. Y-DNA traces a man's father's father's father's line only. All men, all the way back. A man must take this test. If you're a man, you are in luck. If you are not a male, you'll need your brother, your uncle, a male cousin whose father's father's father's line is the one you want. What you get back is a string of numbers. Let's say you are the guy on top and your match is the guy on the bottom. 13 23 14 11 11-14 12 12 12 13 13 29 13 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 12 13 13 29 (Don't get too excited over my example. I used the Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype). What this means is you and your match have what is called a genetic distance of one. Genetic genealogists are a bit acronym obsessed, so they write GD=1. What it REALLY means though depends on the number of markers you test. For a genealogical match, you need to test 37 or more markers (the tests are for 37, 67, and 111 markers). There is nothing wrong with starting at the 12 marker level and upgrading to the 37 or higher marker level as your budget may allow. Just don't expect anything meaningful from a 12 or 25 marker match. Here is Family Tree DNA's handy dandy chart if figuring out if the genetic distance is meaningful or not at the higher marker levels. 37 markers: http://goo.gl/VnivpP 67 markers: http://goo.gl/GAU7zc 111 markers: http://goo.gl/nvG0Hp (FTDNA loves to rearrange things, so I just go to Google and type in: genetic distance markers) My dad has no 37 or 67 marker matches. He has 12 and 25 marker matches, but I have the 12 marker turned off (he is grayed out if anyone matches him). This is under the Settings tab, if anyone gets too many emails about this level of matching. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Marriage
Try this link instead: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1756-1797/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1756-1797_item1/P105.html Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 3:50 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Marriage For whatever reason, the tool bar on top for the CCA records is gone. I can only enlarge one level. I can't tell the name of the mother of the bride because it's too small, but it doesn't look long enough or the right shape to be Botelho. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program
How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family file (extension is fdb.) Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some other ideas about why they occur--http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html. Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for reporting problems: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pacheco Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM To: Azores-Gen Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program I have Legacy, I love it but having and not happy with it at the same time. The problem i have problems loosing data, every once in a while when entering a new family. I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker is the same. Thanks George -- www.georgepacheco.com http://www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program
You need to find out the file size by going to the folder where Legacy stores the Data; the folder name is usually “Data” and it is in the “LegacyFamilyTree” folder. If you used the default locations, the files are in the Documents folder in Windows. If you do exceed the limit, you may have to split your database into smaller “branches.” The file ends with the extension “.fdb.” That is what determines whether you have exceeded the file size limit. If you start looking at other programs, be sure to find out what the file size limitations are or you will run into similar problems. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pacheco Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:13 PM To: Azores-Gen Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program I have 158342 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family file (extension is fdb.) Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some other ideas about why they occur--http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html. Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for reporting problems: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of George Pacheco Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM To: Azores-Gen Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program I have Legacy, I love it but having and not happy with it at the same time. The problem i have problems loosing data, every once in a while when entering a new family. I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker is the same. Thanks George -- www.georgepacheco.com http://www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- www.georgepacheco.com http://www.georgepacheco.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pictures of Azorean Whalers
Thanks for the link! It is an interesting article. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of A Faria Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 2:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pictures of Azorean Whalers Hi Everyone, Interesting National Geographic article with Pictures of Azorean Whalers. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/pictures/130613-azores-whalers-culture-history-marine-science/#/portugal-one-time-whalers-azore-boat-then_68361_600x450.jpg Antonio -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Marriage record of Manuel Dutra da Rosa and Domingas Pereira
Thanks for the help--I was afraid I was misreading it. Diane -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mnk Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:08 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Marriage record of Manuel Dutra da Rosa and Domingas Pereira Domingas is listed as the widow of Joao da Roza, the priest lists his parents as well as the parents of Manoel's first wife. That's a very thorough record! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Marriage record of Manuel Dutra da Rosa and Domingas Pereira
Hi, I am having trouble translating this marriage record, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-C-1720-1 766/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-C-1720-1766_item1/P34.html, second entry on the left side. The groom and bride are supposed to be Manuel Dutra da Rosa and Domingas Pereira. Please excuse the lack of diacritical marks in some of the names. It looks like the groom is Manuel Dutra da Rosa, son of Manuel Dutra da Rosa, deceased and Maria Silveira, born in Castelo Branco. I can't figure out the names after Castelo Branco. It looks like Manuel (groom) is the widower of Maria da Brum, daughter of Antonio de Dutra and Maria de Brum, but I can't make out the rest of the sentence. Domingas appears on the next line as the daughter of Joao de Serpa and Maria ?, deceased, daughter? of Joao da Rosa, son of Manuel Rodrigues and Maria Furtado, deceased, born in Cedros. According to NEPS, Manuel was married to Maria da Brum and Domingas was married to a Joao da Rosa, prior to this marriage. Do I have the names correct. It doesn't make sense as I am seeing it. It would make sense if Domingas were listed as the widow of Joao da Rosa. Or I am translating incorrectly or is NEPS completely off? Please help me mae sense out of this. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with an Obios from Matriz da Horta, Faial
Hi, I think the name is “Vieira.” Compare the “r” to the “r” in other words in the record, e.g., “Sylveira” and “frequesia.” Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:03 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with an Obios from Matriz da Horta, Faial Margaret - Here is the link for the marriage record of Joze (Jozeph) and Isabel do Rosario. (top right page) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1722-1758_item1/P96.html When I first posted it several members replied - one whom said the brides mothers name looked like Viceza (I don't have the diacritic over the e; which would make the full name Vicenza). I don't believe that's correct. I think the name is Viera. Could you take a look and verify that if possible? (ninth line from the bottom of the record.. Thanks! Lee On Monday, August 11, 2014 1:03:08 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Lee, That gap would make me suspicious. Are you sure this is she? The Mother's name is different, Maria Vieira. The Parish is Santa Barbara and you wrote she was from S. Joao Batista which is a different freguesia. Note: she was the daughter of Joam d'Azevedo and Maria Vencenza(?) (Isabel was from parish of Sao Joao Baptista, Pico) On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net javascript: wrote: Thank you Margaret. I went to the birth records for Ribieras, Pico and finally found her record; she was born in 1722 which made her 46 at the time of her death - certainly a far cry from 60! http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1697-1731/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1697-1731_item1/P205.html Right side, top. Again, thank you for your help. On Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:55:22 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote: Hi Lee, Death date reads Sep. 2nd 1768. Age 60 years old more or less. Notice he writes more or less because the age entered is not verified and you will need to look up her birth record within the timeframe above as a start and work it backwards. I've found gaps of 10 years in some of my records. On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net mailto:shor...@suddenlink.net wrote: Below is the link for the obitos of Isabel do Rozario (top, left page) I know she was married to Joze Sylveira and died September 2nd??, 1768. The main question that I have is her age at death - I see Secenta (60) which I have a problem with - she and Joze were married in 1748 and from 1749 to 1763 had 6 children (known of so far, that is). I know this as been discussed before; but would she really have had a child as late as age 65? (I DON'T THINK SO...) Either the age is incorrect or she really, really looked much older than her true age at death. According to their marriage which occurred in Horta on August 5, 1748, she was the daughter of Joam d'Azevedo and Maria Vencenza(?) (Isabel was from parish of Sao Joao Baptista, Pico) and Joze was the son of Pai Incognito and Barbara Sylveira (slave of Captain Gregorio Perreira of Sao Matteus, Pico). Any formation/help would be greatly appreciated. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-MATRIZ-O-1766-1794/FAL-HT-MATRIZ-O-1766-1794_item1/P21.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-MATRIZ-O-1766-1794/FAL-HT-MATRIZ-O-1766-1794_item1/P21.html Than you! Lee Estep Oak Hill WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of Expostos
You might also try searching at http://books.google.com. They have links to sellers and a link to Worldcat to search for the books in libraries that might be near you. Google also tells you if eBooks are available. Some books have previews available. I suggest searching by the author’s name in this format José Maria Eça de Queirós (with the quotes). I seemed to get more results that way even for individual books. The results will include both English and Portuguese versions. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MaryAnn Santos Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:02 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of Expostos Yes, there are in English translations. Amazon has copies of The Sin of Father Amaro ranging in price from $6.50 to $2,423.64!! I think that must be a typo. An english translation of The Maias by Queiroz came out a few years ago and is another excellent read. I thoroughly enjoyed The Relic, too. I read it first in English and then in Portuguese. Although I think it's out of print now. Since I live in NYC I buy a lot of used books at Strand. They have great deals on hardcover new and used books (and paperbacks) and you can buy them online. Here's the link. http://www.strandbooks.com/ MaryAnn On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:37 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: MaryAnn, Are these books available in English? Do you know how many he has written? Thank you, Nancy _ From: m...@nyu.edu mailto:m...@nyu.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:07:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of Expostos To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Thank you, John. I had forgotten about Father Amara and as an aside, The Sins of Father Amaro is an excellent read - as are all of the Queiroz books I've read. MaryAnn On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com wrote: In my researching experience, I have noted the following: When people from the villages went to the convents in Ponta Delgada and Ribeira Grande to have foundling babies placed with them, there was not, necessarily, a connection between the foster parent and the baby. As for the villages, if an unmarried (or widowed) woman was pregnant, I think that in such small places where everybody knew everybody else, I doubt that the pregnancy could go unnoticed. And, the parish priest, who heard confessions at a time when people really worried about what would happen if they died in a state of mortal sin, must have known what his penitents were up to. I think that when a baby was left at somebody's door in a small village, everybody knew, or thought they knew, who the mother (and maybe the father) were. Sometimes these children might have been left at the doors of relatives, but they would have required a nursemaid, i.e.a woman with breast milk. As for names, again, there is no one answer. Babies who were placed with and stayed with the same family to adulthood (as opposed to being shipped out as servants from family to family) sometimes took the family name. Sometimes an exposto took a name, e.g. Bettencourt, with no apparent rime or reason. However, a closer look shows that the Bettencourts were a prominent family in the village and perhaps it was an open secret that this baby was the offspring of the squire's son (or daughter). Infant mortality for expostos was much higher than among non-exposto babies. The state paid a stipend for the first few months of life for babies placed with nursing foster-mothers. When the subsidy stopped, the infant mortality rate rose substantially. Eça de Queiroz touched on this subject in his novel O Crime do Padre Amaro; one of the characters made her living by taking in unwanted/illegitimate babies of the socially promminent and arranging for their deaths. Eloise Cadinha, a member of the List, sent me her notes on this subject, and with my thanks to Eloise, I am enclose them: Most of us as we research our ancestors will find an exposto or two. It is indeed miraculous that they were able to survive to adulthood, to marry and to have children. Expostos - a translation. A very sad situation. The following is my poor translation of part of an article written by Henrique Bras 1884-1984) in Boletim de Instituto Histórico da ilha Terceira, 1947. In the last three centuries there is a long list of filhos da igreja (children of the church), also known at times as baptism records, of unknown fathers and mothers in the parish registers of Terceira, who were often baptized with the most noble or notable or the very rich people of Terceira who stood as godparents. At a more recent time the number of children secretly abandoned at the rodas (wheels) had greatly increased
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1866 marriage Ribeira das Tainhas, Sao Miguel island, written at end of book
Hi, On Windows 8.1 and I think on Windows 8, you have two options for rotating an image. 1. Open the image by double-clicking. That opens the Windows Photo Viewer which has a rotation function in the tools at the bottom of the screen. Or 2. Go the Start screen and find Windows Paint. It’s in the Accessories. It has rotation and some simple photo editing tools. If you can’t find it, go to the Start screen and type “Paint.” You don’t need to select or click on anything. A search box will open on the right side of the screen and will display programs with the word “Paint” in them. Click on the result for “Paint” and it should open the Paint program. This should be easier than rotating your laptop. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:49 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1866 marriage Ribeira das Tainhas, Sao Miguel island, written at end of book Interesting. Books on tour. Now I need to read everything after the close of the books and learn to read Portuguese upside down! It was kinda weird turning my laptop upside down and having the screen on my lap and the touchpad up there and trying to navigate it. You can stop laughing now. I'm not THAT ditzy! My old Photoshop doesn't work on this Windows 8 computer. A genealogy friend has a less older Photoshop that may work. She'll give me the disk when she finds it. Rotating in Photoshop would be easier than turning my computer upside down! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later
Hi, I have a record from Flamengos that I found accidentally. My great-grandfather Luis Goncalves da Silva was born in 1860 according to his gravestone, but I could not find any baptism record at all. One day I was looking for someone else and found a note at the bottom of a page among baptism records at the bottom of a page with January births in 1858: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1844-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1844-1860_item1/P201.html (bottom left) That record pointed me to another entry in 1880 that contained the usual baptism information (except the actual date), including the parents and grand-parents. (http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1879-1892/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1879-1892_item1/P24.html. This happy accident got me past a brick wall and led me through ancestors to 10th great grandparents from records were in the CCA records. Prior to that find, all I had was the name of Luis’ parents from the NEPS database. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 10:12 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism 20 years later So I don't hijack the other thread... Here's the baptism of my ancestor, 20 years after his birth: Luis, top left: http://goo.gl/xKMGur I did this work years ago. Now that I look at it again, it appears to say that he was baptized in 1825. I don't think it's saying anything out of the ordinary though. Godparents, witnesses, the priest...that's all ordinary. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name
Hi, What’s the link? Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eddie Machado Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:03 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, mom's name Hi all, I once again need a little help with the translations. I can't read the mom's name or the exact year. Here is what I have: Manuel son of Jorge d' Azevedo Machado and (Can't read mom's name) Paternal grandparents are Manuel d' Azevedo Machado and Maria Isabel Maternal grandparents are Joam? d' Azevedo de Borba and Anna d' Azevedo? The date I read is 15th of August 18? and not sure if this is the birth or baptism day godparents are Joaquim d' Azevedo Machado and Juinita? d' Azevedo Thanks for any help, Eddie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation for Maria
I think that the parents of Maria are Maneol Jose and Maria Josefa. The words after his name are and of his wife (de sua mer). I believe that the godparents (padrinhos) are Jose and Maria, children of Antonio Jorge and his wife Josefa Isabel. I don't find any information about the parents of either Manoel or Maria (paterna or materna). I am still a novice at this so hopefully someone else can give this a try. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:04 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation for Maria Hi I am looking for help on reading the baptism of Maria from what I can read is parents are Manoel Jose da Silva and Maria Josefa, I know that the year is 1842 and this is based off CCA page. It starts on the page 14 bottom and goes to the next page top right http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1841- 1856/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1841-1856_item1/P16.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1841- 1856/PIC-LJ-RIBEIRAS-B-1841-1856_item1/P17.html I am able to read or what I think I can understand is that she was born in June of 1842 at the village of Santa Barbara dos or of Ribeiras Pico. I see which is what I want to confirm that parents are Manoel Jose da Silva and Maria Josefa. The father parents are Antoino Jose da Sliva and Josefa and I cannot understand the rest. Thank you Bob Camacho Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciosa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography
I was able to open it. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:08 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography Hi, I received this file today in a genealogy list from Brazil. It might be useful someday. Best regards, Geraldo -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Site
No problem here either. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerri Martin Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:53 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Site Is anyone else having trouble with access? I have tried three different browsers, cleared my history, restarted my computer and can't get on. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help 'de Faria' (Sao Pedro, Faial)
Edna, The only one I can get clearly that is different from what you have is the maternal grandmother, Maria Jacintha, not Mariana Ignacia. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edna Epps Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:08 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help 'de Faria' (Sao Pedro, Faial) I think this says that they are natives of this parish. I think the Maternal Grandparents are Domingos Luis and Maria Jacintha. You have most of it right. where it says he was baptized I think that is the priest's name (?) I think the Godmother's first name may be Felicia Jacinta. Those are my thoughts, but I'm just learning too.;) Edna dave-e...@comcast.net mailto:dave-e...@comcast.net Joshua 10:14 And there was no day like that before it or after it where the Lord listened to the voice of a man; for the Lord fought for Israel On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:37 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com wrote: The record is top left side for my 2nd ggrandfather. Jose Francisco de Faria. Note this record does not give his father's surname of Faria but; all else jives with what I already have on him. If anyone could verify that what I have translated is correct and fill in the missing blanks I would be most grateful of your help. Sam in NC http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-18 06-1826/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-B-1806-1826_item1/P169.html Jose, son of Jose Francisco and of his wife, Rosa Jacinta ??. parish of this parish of Nossa Senora de Ajuda, place of Pedro Miguel, grandson of Jose Francisco and of Thereza Ignacia. Maternal grandson of ??? Luis and of Marianna Ignacia. Born on the 9th day of the month of March eighteen hundred twenty five (1825) and was baptized ??? 13 day of the same month and year. godfather Antonio Garcia and his wife, Jacinta. Padre ?? Vieira ??? day, month as above. Priest: Francisco de Borba da Silveria ??? Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada
Thanks. That clarifies your prior post for me. I have found another Mateus Silveira and Francisca Inacia, parents of an Antonio in the NEPS data at http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=mateus+jose;n=silveira. I found the marriage record for this Mateus and Francisca ( http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-C-1766-1825/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-C-1766-1825_item1/P4.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-C-1766-1825/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-C-1766-1825_item1/P4.html and the birth record ( http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1772-1791/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1772-1791_item1/P26.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1772-1791/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1772-1791_item1/P26.html) for their Antonio, but I still don’t have a way to determine if that Antonio is the same as the Antonio Silveira who is the parent of the twins. I have his death record, but it does not include any names other than his wife. I will look at some additional records for the other children to see what I can find. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada Diane, Based on the Feteira link, I think your ancestor is Antonio Silveira and you are are basing your link to these Candelaria ancestors on what NEPS tells you. The direct link to Antonio Silveira is this: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=antonio;n=silveira;oc=9 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=antonio;n=silveira;oc=9 If you look at the baptism of his twins in 1804, for example, you see he is not native of Candelaria, Pico. That is the exact place where Helder Oliveira went wrong when he made this NEPS database. Funny thing is that they connect to his own Oliveira line, too, and he still got it wrong. So if these people in Candelaria are yours based on this ancestor Antonio, then no, these are not your ancestors. But you do have other Pico ancestors who might lead to them, I suppose. Just not from this particular Antonio Silveira. And yes, like another said, there is that gap in baptisms for Candelaria and no marriages either. And deaths don't start until about 1815, if I recall. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: mailto:n...@rochaholmes.com n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada From: Diane George mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com digeorg...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 5:34 pm To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Alexandre and Madalena are actually from Candelaria, Pico and I am trying to trace them as they are my ancestors. The marriage record seems to be more solid than what is on NEPS so I am trying to use it and gather as much as possible from the contents. I never “rely” on NEPS. Diane From: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com [ mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mailto:p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:33 PM To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada This line is completely botched thanks to NEPS. If anyone has ancestors from Feteira, you need to do your own research and ignore the information given so nicely to you by NEPS. A perfect case of caveat emptor (buyer beware). Or have fun tracing all the wrong ancestors. You'll spend more time trying to figure out this mess than actually tracing your own ancestors. In other words, this golden platter came with a Trojan horse. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: mailto:n...@rochaholmes.com n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada From: Diane George mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com digeorg...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 2:53 pm To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Hi, I have
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada
Alexandre and Madalena are actually from Candelaria, Pico and I am trying to trace them as they are my ancestors. The marriage record seems to be more solid than what is on NEPS so I am trying to use it and gather as much as possible from the contents. I never “rely” on NEPS. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 3:33 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada This line is completely botched thanks to NEPS. If anyone has ancestors from Feteira, you need to do your own research and ignore the information given so nicely to you by NEPS. A perfect case of caveat emptor (buyer beware). Or have fun tracing all the wrong ancestors. You'll spend more time trying to figure out this mess than actually tracing your own ancestors. In other words, this golden platter came with a Trojan horse. Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: mailto:n...@rochaholmes.com n...@rochaholmes.com = Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada From: Diane George mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com digeorg...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, July 08, 2014 2:53 pm To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Hi, I have located a marriage record and am having a little uncertainty with the translation. I can pick out the names as follows: Date of Marriage: 10 January 1724 Groom: Alexandre Ferreira, son of Manuel Ferreira and his wife, Catharina Garcia. Bride: Madalena Furtada, daughter of Manuel Goularte and Maria Furtada. The record is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752_item1/P13.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-C-1718-1752_item1/P13.html and is the only full record on the right page. Is there any information in the record about the ages of the parents? The reason I am trying to locate that information is that in the NEPS database, Alexandre and Madalena are shown as the parents of Francisca, but with birthdates in 1668 and 1666, respectively and with a different set of parents for both. (Alexandre, http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre;n=ferreira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre;n=ferreira and Madalena, http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=madalena;n=furtado;oc=1 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=madalena;n=furtado;oc=1.) It doesn’t sound likely that the NEPS information is correct as they would be 56 and 58 years old at the time of the marriage and 61 and 63 at the birth of the last child. There are no baptism records for the period from 1692 to 1705 for Candelaria on the CCA site. Is it possible the records are somewhere else or just haven’t been uploaded yet. I have also located birth records for three children of what appears to be the same couple, the children being: Bartolomeu, born 20 August 1724, http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P29.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P29.html, top entry on the right page. Francisca, born 7 November 1726, http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P43.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P43.html, third entry on right page. I believe that she is my 5th great-grandmother. Francisco, born 4 March 1729, http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P60.html http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733/PIC-MD-CANDELARIA-B-1721-1733_item1/P60.html, second entry on the right page. The children’s birthdates are consistent with the marriage date. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada
I actually meant that I was looking for the ages of the bride and groom. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:56 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Translation for Alexandre Ferreira and Magdalena Furtada Diane G, I've never seen the ages of the parents recorded in a marriage. I've only seen the ages of the bride and groom recorded, but this record in this time period does not record the ages of the bride and groom. Someone who researches Candelaria should know if there's a gap in the baptism book. Family Search has changed their catalog, so I can't tell what they filmed when they were there. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mistake on Minho SantissimaTrindade, Capelo, Isle of Faial records?
You are right. Not only are the birth dates the same. When you click on the child, Maria Perpetua, it goes back to the record for Maria, the “mother.” Also the parents Antonio and Maria were married before the parent Maria was born. As Doug said, you need to do your own research, which it looks like you are. Good luck! Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:47 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mistake on Minho SantissimaTrindade, Capelo, Isle of Faial records? I really appreciate the Minho records. They have given me the start I needed in my search for ancestors. But I think I have found a mistake. I would like someone more experienced to look at these records from Santissima Trindade, Capelo, Isle of Faial and see what you think. The UMinho record I think is wrong involves Antonio Francisco Rodriques and his wife Maria Perpetua. They are listed as the parents of my ancestor Antonio Francisco Matos. But I have looked up the actual birth records of the children of Antonio Francisco Matos and Ana Thomasia Coracao de Jesus . None of the children’s birth records give Antonio Francisco Rodriques and Maria Perpetua as the paternal grandparents, rather they give Antonio Francisco de Vargas and Catarina Inacia. Here is the Uminho page for A. F. Matos: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=capelo;lang=en;p=antonio+francisco+de;n=matos If you then click on the page of Antonio Francisco Rodriques from there, Maria Perpetua, his wife, and Maria Perpetua the child have the same date of birth, maybe the first hint that something is wrong. These are three of the children’s birth records: Example 1. Antonio b. 3 Oct 1819, top right, 4th line, netto parte paterna de Antonio Francisco e Catharina Ignacia http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1818-1824/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1818-1824_item1/P16.html Example 2. Gabriel b. 26 Dec 1821, top left, second line : netto parte paterna de Antonio Francisco de Vargas and Catharina Ignacia http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1818-1824/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1818-1824_item1/P57.html Example 3. Jose b. 28 May 1829, bottom right, 5th line http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1825-1852/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1825-1852_item1/P83.html What do you think? Thanks Eleanor Faria Dwyer -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila?
Hi, I recently had a match on My Heritage with a tree that has a Maria de Avila, married to Pedro Dutra Alvernas or o Cabaco. I believe that they are my 9th great grandparents. The person on My Heritage found a death record for Maria at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O- 1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P210.html (middle record on the right side). I am trying to decipher the age of Maria at the time of death and also any other names that appear in the death record. I can read the deceased husband's name and a daughter, Catarina Dutra, but I can't read most of the rest of the record. The reason I want the age is that the listing for Maria on the My Heritage tree has her birth in 1635, but her first child isn't born until 1673 and her last child is born in 1689. That makes her 38 at the first birth and 54 for the last birth which seems unlikely. The birth record cited for Maria de Avila is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B- 1624-1706/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706_item1/P22.html I am not sure how the owner of the tree concluded that this is her Maria since there are at least 4 Marias on the page. I also don't know how she decided to look at the records for that time period for Maria since she does have a record for the husband Pedro that indicates he was baptized in 1650. It seems more likely that Maria would have a birth date closer to his. I am hoping that the age of Maria at death will point to a birth year I can search. I am reluctant to contact the owner of the tree directly with the these questions because I am not sure I can convey them in Portuguese which appears to be her language. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila?
Actually I was more concerned about the last child being born when she was 54. I have an uncle is 8 months younger than I am who was born when his mother was 43 also. I also can’t figure out how to decide which baptism record for a Maria would fit from the four listed. Anyway, thank you and Pam for responding. DIane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vasconcelos Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:31 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila? Hi Diane, For your information, my mother was 39 when I was born and 43 when my sister was born and I was the first born so it isn't so unlikely as you might think. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently had a match on My Heritage with a tree that has a Maria de Avila, married to Pedro Dutra Alvernas or “o Cabaco”. I believe that they are my 9th great grandparents. The person on My Heritage found a death record for Maria at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P210.html (middle record on the right side). I am trying to decipher the age of Maria at the time of death and also any other names that appear in the death record. I can read the deceased husband’s name and a daughter, Catarina Dutra, but I can’t read most of the rest of the record. The reason I want the age is that the listing for Maria on the My Heritage tree has her birth in 1635, but her first child isn’t born until 1673 and her last child is born in 1689. That makes her 38 at the first birth and 54 for the last birth which seems unlikely. The birth record cited for Maria de Avila is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706_item1/P22.html I am not sure how the owner of the tree concluded that this is her Maria since there are at least 4 Marias on the page. I also don’t know how she decided to look at the records for that time period for Maria since she does have a record for the husband Pedro that indicates he was baptized in 1650. It seems more likely that Maria would have a birth date closer to his. I am hoping that the age of Maria at death will point to a birth year I can search. I am reluctant to contact the owner of the tree directly with the these questions because I am not sure I can convey them in Portuguese which appears to be her language. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila?
Thank you—I wondered if that might be an “Se” instead of “Oi” That would make a little more sense. I fear that the marriage records for Castelo Branco (at least on the CCA site) don’t start until 1711. Next, I have to find out if they exist elsewhere. I have also looked for baptism records in 1644-1646, but can’t find a record that I can confirm as this Maria. Thanks for your suggestions. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:39 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila? Diane, the obito does appear to state that Maria was age 85 at death, but, if that first letter is actually an s with an exaggerated tail, it would read age 75 at death. I say this because it appears that the scribe used a selective flourish on a couple of words - one being Maria's age, and, the other, the daughter's status as Solteira (single). Both words include an exaggerated tail on the letter s. If this is in fact the case, this Maria d'Avila would actually be ten years younger (75) when she passed away. My suggestion to you would be to confirm Maria's age by researching her marriage - which actually states the ages of the bride and groom. That should put to rest any questions as to whether you have the correct couple. On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:48:30 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote: Hi, I recently had a match on My Heritage with a tree that has a Maria de Avila, married to Pedro Dutra Alvernas or “o Cabaco”. I believe that they are my 9th great grandparents. The person on My Heritage found a death record for Maria at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P210.html (middle record on the right side). I am trying to decipher the age of Maria at the time of death and also any other names that appear in the death record. I can read the deceased husband’s name and a daughter, Catarina Dutra, but I can’t read most of the rest of the record. The reason I want the age is that the listing for Maria on the My Heritage tree has her birth in 1635, but her first child isn’t born until 1673 and her last child is born in 1689. That makes her 38 at the first birth and 54 for the last birth which seems unlikely. The birth record cited for Maria de Avila is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706_item1/P22.html I am not sure how the owner of the tree concluded that this is her Maria since there are at least 4 Marias on the page. I also don’t know how she decided to look at the records for that time period for Maria since she does have a record for the husband Pedro that indicates he was baptized in 1650. It seems more likely that Maria would have a birth date closer to his. I am hoping that the age of Maria at death will point to a birth year I can search. I am reluctant to contact the owner of the tree directly with the these questions because I am not sure I can convey them in Portuguese which appears to be her language. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila?
Thank you for the information. I believe I am a descendant of Pedro Dutra Alvernas and Maria Correia. I will send you more information to your email address. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila? Hi Diane, I'm also from this line, as I descend from Pedro Dutra Alvernas and Maria Correia (the Dutra in my name today is from him). This Pedro Dutra Alvernas is also Known as cabaço, and he is probably the son of Pedro Dutra Alvernas (also known as Pedro Utra) married to Maria de Ávila. I have not found the marriage record for Pedro Dutra Alvernas, the son, to Maria Correia. His death is the second in the left: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1727-1782/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1727-1782_item1/P69.html I wonder which son or daughter you descend from. The information I have on Pedro Dutra Alvernaz and Maria de Ávila is from Genealogias das Quatro Ilhas, vol.I, p.811, de Jorge Forjaz e Atonio Ornelas Mendes.: Maria de Ávila, n. em 1647 e f. em Castelo Branco a 1.2.1722. C.c. Pedro Dutra Alvernaz, b. em Castelo Branco a 3.7.1650 e f. em Castelo Branco a 9.11.1705, filho de Amaro de Almança e de Isabel de Alvernaz. It means she was born in 1647 e died in 1 fev 1722. Married to Pedro Dutra Alvernaz, baptized in 3 jun 1650, died in 9 nov 1705, son of Amaro de Almança and Isabel de Alvernaz. I hope it helps, Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto 2014-06-24 21:39 GMT-03:00 Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com : Actually I was more concerned about the last child being born when she was 54. I have an uncle is 8 months younger than I am who was born when his mother was 43 also. I also can’t figure out how to decide which baptism record for a Maria would fit from the four listed. Anyway, thank you and Pam for responding. DIane From: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of John Vasconcelos Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:31 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age in Death Record for Maria de Avila? Hi Diane, For your information, my mother was 39 when I was born and 43 when my sister was born and I was the first born so it isn't so unlikely as you might think. John Vasconcelos On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently had a match on My Heritage with a tree that has a Maria de Avila, married to Pedro Dutra Alvernas or “o Cabaco”. I believe that they are my 9th great grandparents. The person on My Heritage found a death record for Maria at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-O-1643-1722_item1/P210.html (middle record on the right side). I am trying to decipher the age of Maria at the time of death and also any other names that appear in the death record. I can read the deceased husband’s name and a daughter, Catarina Dutra, but I can’t read most of the rest of the record. The reason I want the age is that the listing for Maria on the My Heritage tree has her birth in 1635, but her first child isn’t born until 1673 and her last child is born in 1689. That makes her 38 at the first birth and 54 for the last birth which seems unlikely. The birth record cited for Maria de Avila is at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706/FAL-HT-CASTELOBRANCO-B-1624-1706_item1/P22.html I am not sure how the owner of the tree concluded that this is her Maria since there are at least 4 Marias on the page. I also don’t know how she decided to look at the records for that time period for Maria since she does have a record for the husband Pedro that indicates he was baptized in 1650. It seems more likely that Maria would have a birth date closer to his. I am hoping that the age of Maria at death will point to a birth year I can search. I am reluctant to contact the owner of the tree directly with the these questions because I am not sure I can convey them in Portuguese which appears to be her language. Any help would be appreciated. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry,com
Geneablogger says Ancestry is back up, but I can’t access it with FireFox (times out). IE and Chrome seem to be working with the following message appearing at the top of the page: Note: You may be experiencing some temporary site issues with both the Search and Trees features on Ancestry.com. We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause and are working to resolve the issue and will have it back up as soon as possible. Find A Grave also is down. It appears to be coming up and then going down again. Other sites as listed at http://geneabloggers.com/ http://geneabloggers.com/ may be having problems as well. Go to the third post on the Geneabloggers page to see more info about the outages. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Perry Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:18 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry,com Anyone else having trouble accessing Ancestry.com? All I get is Site Unavailable for the last day or so. David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software
Maria, Legacy does not have a “transcription” field, however there is a field to record the data from a source so you could do the transcription in that field or copy it from some other source into that field. The information would appear in the Source detail for the fact supported. For example, if you have a baptism record, you would include the transcription/translation in the Source detail for the baptism, birth and any other information in the record. You can create additional Event/Fact fields for the Godparents and Witnesses. As Cheri indicated, you can generate web pages from your data and there is a way to store DNA results. Go to http://legacyfamilytree.com to see which features are in the Standard (free) edition versus the Deluxe ($29.95 for the download version and $39.95 for the CD version). Let me know if you want more details. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GS1138 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:35 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software My genealogy software program crashed last night. When I was finally able to get it back up all the data was scrabbled. Luckily I have older back up and gedcom files. so it's not a total loss. Since I'm forced to start over I was wondering if anyone knows of a software program that has the following features: Transcription field for records in another language Godparents fields Witness fields Website creation DNA results (not a must have) Thank you for any recommendations. Maria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Entries in Salao, Faial Baptism Records
Hi, While I was searching for a baptism record in the CCA site for Salao, I ran across several pages of records from a different time period. These start at http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-SALAO-B-1780-181 7/FAL-HT-SALAO-B-1780-1817_item1/P107.html and continue for about 4 pages. They appear to be baptism records but don't appear to be in order and the records for Salao start up again at the end of these in date order. Can anyone tell me why these might appear in the middle of the other records and out of order? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism Record for Antonio-exposto
Forgot to mention that his is the record on the top right of the image. DIane Hi, I ran across the following record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1791-1812/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1791-1812_item1/P129.html while looking for a record for someone else. The names of the people after the word “caza” are my 4th great grand-parents Bento Jose da Silveira and Anna Felicia. They were from Feteira. Does this mean that the child, Antonio, was left in the rota and then “placed” with Bento and Anna? Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Maria, daughter of Thomaz Ignacio ? and Rita Marianna, Feteira, Faial
Thanks to you and Pam! Here’s a follow-up. I was able to find the parents, grandparents, etc., back 4 generations in the NEPS database by searching for the names of the parents of the godmother, Luisa. I searched the NEPS databases for several places for the names of the parents of Maria and could not find them, but when I looked for the godmother Luisa and her parents, Jose Furtado Pereira and Catarina Tomasia Felicia (listed after Luisa). I found that Maria’s father and the godmother were cousins and found them as they are listed in NEPS. Catarina was the sister of http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=ana+tomasia+de+sao;n=jose Ana Tomásia de São José, mother of Tomas Inacio Pereira. Sorry if this isn’t clear, but it’s late. Anyway, now I will go to the CCA site and find the records to support what’s in NEPS. (Not tonight, though.) Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:59 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Maria, daughter of Thomaz Ignacio ? and Rita Marianna, Feteira, Faial Diane G, Pam Santos got the names for you. Parents are natives of this parish church, Divino Espirito Santo in the place of Feteira. It does not say where the grandparents were from. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com mailto:pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Father Thomar or Homar? Ignacio Pereira and Rita Mariano Paternal Ignacio Furtado Godfather Jose Furtado Pereira On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am having a lot of trouble with this baptism record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P189.html The item is Maria, first entry on the left page. The names I can’t quite get are the father and the paternal grandfather. I also can’t quite make out the godfather and any of the place names. There also appears to be a name or names after the name of the godfather and godmother (Luiza Marianna). I think they are all natives of Feteira, and the church is Divino Espírito Santo, but want to be sure. I believe Maria is my second great grandmother, wife of Francisco Gonçalves da Silva, on my maternal grandfather’s side of the family. They are the parents of Luis Gonçalves da Silva, who is my maternal great grandfather. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Maria, daughter of Thomaz Ignacio ? and Rita Marianna, Feteira, Faial
Hi, I am having a lot of trouble with this baptism record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1 829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P189.html The item is Maria, first entry on the left page. The names I can't quite get are the father and the paternal grandfather. I also can't quite make out the godfather and any of the place names. There also appears to be a name or names after the name of the godfather and godmother (Luiza Marianna). I think they are all natives of Feteira, and the church is Divino Espírito Santo, but want to be sure. I believe Maria is my second great grandmother, wife of Francisco Gonçalves da Silva, on my maternal grandfather's side of the family. They are the parents of Luis Gonçalves da Silva, who is my maternal great grandfather. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco
Thanks to all who helped. I think I have most of it now and will start looking for the parents and grandparents. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:04 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco Diane, with difficult records I sometimes find it easier to copy out the narrative in Portuguese, then translate it to English. Also, sometimes enlarging the document helps to make out some of the more difficult words. Anyway, This is what I came up with: Francisco, son of Francisco Goncalves, native of this place of Feteiras, and his wife Rita Ignacia, native of the parish of the Apostle Sao Matheus of Pico, and members of the above church of the Apostle Sao Matheus/ [rather] parish of Divino Espirito Santo; Paternal grandson of Manoel Goncalves and Agada Maria, and Maternal [grandson] of Antonio Correia and Maria dos [Marecos?], was born on the twenty-fifth day of the month of October, 1822, and was baptized by me, the Vicar signed below, on the third of November of this same year. Godfather was Manoel Joze Correia, and Godmother, Anna Feliciana, his sister, children of Manoel Joze Correia and Maria Felicia. Witnesses were Antonio de Medeiros, treasurer, and Francisco de Vargas. For the record I dated as above. [ Vicar Joao Vieira da Rosa; Antonio de Medeiros; and, Francisco de Vargas] On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:57:30 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote: I am having difficulty translating the following baptism record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P166.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P166.html for Francisco. His entry is on the right bottom of the page Here is what I have: Francisco, son of Francisco Gonsalves, native of Feteira, and his wife Rita Inacia, native of Apostalo de Matheus do Pico, and Frequesia of ? (several words after are unintelligible) , paternal grandparents Manuel Gonsalves and Agada Maria(?), maternal grandparents Antonio Correia and Josefa ? , born on the 25th day of October?, 1822 and baptized on the 3rd day of November, 1822. Godfather Manuel Jose Correia and ? Anna Felicia, daughter of Manuel Jose Correia. The rest makes no sense to me except that I see a few names strung together. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco
I am having difficulty translating the following baptism record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1 829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P166.html for Francisco. His entry is on the right bottom of the page. Here is what I have: Francisco, son of Francisco Gonsalves, native of Feteira, and his wife Rita Inacia, native of Apostalo de Matheus do Pico, and Frequesia of ? (several words after are unintelligible) , paternal grandparents Manuel Gonsalves and Agada Maria(?), maternal grandparents Antonio Correia and Josefa ? , born on the 25th day of October?, 1822 and baptized on the 3rd day of November, 1822. Godfather Manuel Jose Correia and ? Anna Felicia, daughter of Manuel Jose Correia. The rest makes no sense to me except that I see a few names strung together. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao
You may also want to look at Legacy at http://legacyfamilytree.com. It allows you to link to your FamilySearch Family Tree and download (or upload) information) from and to your Family Tree online. You choose what data you want to include (sort of like FamilyTreeMaker and Ancestry). You can download a free version (without the FS FamilyTree integration) to see if you like how it handles your data before purchasing the full program for about $29.95. There are several options available that include manuals and other products. You can decide if you want to synchronize your data between the two-I don’t because of other people making changes on the tree. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:16 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao Aaron; I have not searched for the marriage of Jose D'Almeida and Miguelina De Torres or De Resende YET. I've been looking for the marriage of their son Luis to Luiza de Jesus. In the process I found an. Index in the beginning of the book with names for more of their children so today I'll follow up on them and see when they started having children but I need to find my husband's great grandparents- the Luis and Luiza couple. I'm HOPING I can find Luiza's lineage. She used the name Luiza de Jesus CORREA. So I'm wondering where the CORREA came from but maybe the marriage record will give a clue. Aaron, do you use familysearch.org http://familysearch.org to enter your names? I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Thank you so much for your willingness to help me. Maria Elena On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:22 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com mailto:pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Maria, Glad I could help. No, I do not have an index nor are they in my family tree. I do have Resendes in my family tree from Achada. It's not difficult to find related records (baptism) of children from the same parents. Once you find one, you can usually locate the others fairly quickly; provided the parents did not move to another parish. Were you able to locate Jose's marriage to Miguelina? On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:20:57 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Thank you so much for taking the time to write and sending this information. You have been so helpful in sending the links! I did a couple of happy dances this morning. Thank you so much. I noticed the priest didn't include Luis' parents but they are in the other records. How on earth did you find these so quickly. It takes me a long time going page by page. Was there an index or do u have these people in your tree? I noticed the Resende name is in your email. Maria Elena On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Aaron Pereira perei...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hello, I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and I've seen both male and female interchange surnames. example, Jose de Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name Jose Correa Pimentel. His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was a Correa. I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa (Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada). In most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers surname.In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and going back in the family tree to figure it out. As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's pedigree. As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out. I tried looking for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't find it. I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his maternal grandparents surnames. I think it agrees with your original assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! http://goo.gl/NmK2X0 brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism http://goo.gl/tVR9n2 brother Luis's baptismhttp://goo.gl/hnn8jc On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Upper left hand page- for JOZE I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact parish as is mentioned in this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Matches to Mexico
I had my nephew take the Y-DNA test with FamilyTreeDNA. One of his 37 marker matches with a genetic distance of 4 has a Gedcom on the site. Most of the ancestors in the Gedcom during the 1700’s and late 1600’s are people who died in New Mexico. Most who were not born there do not show a birthplace. A few have names that could be Portuguese, Silva, Martin specifically, but a number of Spanish names that could be versions of Portuguese names, e.g., Mendoza. There are a few people who are shown as being from Spain or Mexico. My nephew is haplogroup J-M172. We also know of no origins except from the Azores or Portugual, however we have no information on the paternal side (Y-DNA) beyond his 2nd great grandfather. Not much to go on, but it is a connection to Mexico. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Faria Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:48 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Matches to Mexico I have taken the family finder test match someone whose ancestors are from Mexico particularly from Nuevo Leon I am of 100% Portuguese ancestry and was actually born on Pico island. I know that it is well documented that Sehardic conversos settled in Mexico starting in the 1560's some were born in Portugal, the governor of that region was Luis de Carbajal Y Cueva a new Christian that was born in Mogodouro Portugal. I matched one 10cm strand but a total of 26 to my match. I would like to know if anyone else of Azorean ancestry has matches to Mexico. I also matched two people to Mexico from my y dna I am haplogroup J2a4d which is consistent with Jewish paternal ancestry. I can trace my paternal line on paper to Baltazar Vieira born in Sao Mateus Pico about 1580 I think he is descended from Joao Vieira that arrived on Pico Island about 1509. The Lisbon massacre occcured in 1506 and king Manuel I began authorizing new Christians to settle in the islands in 1507. My ancestors port of departure I believe was Porto Portugal. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviation-da Roxa
Sorry, it is not. So far I have no one from Sao Miguel, only Faial, Pico and Terceira. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Chaves Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:51 AM To: Azores Geneolagy; Azores Geneolagy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abbreviation-da Roxa Hello Diane, could you share if that marriage is from Santo Antonio Alem Capelas - Sao Miguel? If yes we may be connected. Thanks On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Diane Geoge digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Is da Roxa an abbreviation for da Rocha or for something else? I have a marriage record from CCA that uses that name, however in the NEPS data for the same marriage, the name is shown as da Rosa. It is very clear in the CCA record that it is an x and not an s. Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Book Marriages of Cedros, Faial, Acores, etc. by L.P. Silva
Bill, We met at the L-AGS meeting last month. I have a number of ancestors who were born in or lived in Cedros in the 17th and 18th century. Many migrated to Feteira from Cedros in the late 1600's and early 1700's. If you have a list of names, I can check to see if any match and send you what I have from the NEPS database. I even have some Fialhos-Bartolomeu Luis, Belchior and Maria, my 9h great grandfather, my 8th great grand uncle and my 11th great grandmother (on two sides of the family). Both of my maternal grandparents were descendants of Maria. Diane George (Silva) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of fia...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 10:20 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Cc: William Silver; William Silver Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Book Marriages of Cedros, Faial, Acores, etc. by L.P. Silva I live in Livermore near the Alden Lane Nursery, if that helps pinpoint me. I'd be interested to know what you have. Bill Silver _ From: Liz Migliori lizmi...@gmail.com mailto:lizmi...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:45:47 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Book Marriages of Cedros, Faial, Acores, etc. by L.P. Silva Where in northern ca do u live. I might have the info u r seeking Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:43 AM, fia...@comcast.net mailto:fia...@comcast.net wrote: I am looking for information about the book Marriages of Cedros, Faial, Acores, Parish of Santa Barbara 1628-1891 by Lionel P. Silva. My searches so far have identified one copy in the research library of the Univ of Mass but they don't distribute it as a loaner. I live in northern California and the trip would be a bit much for this old guy. Does anyone know of other copies that I might access? My father's family lived in the Salao/Cedros area during the 18th and 19th centuries, maybe even in the 17th. All suggestions would be much appreciated. Bill Silver (Fialho) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/1c1t3eau0fY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder results in (through part of batch 527)
Two male relatives on two different sides of my ancestors have similar Y-DNA results-all Northern European. One has no matches for the YDNA-37 markers, only 12 and 25. The second has four 37 marker matches, all at 4 steps. Neither has matches with people with Portuguese surnames listed. Both are haplogroup R-M269. We have brick walls on both sides and hoped that we might break through, but nothing so far. A third male relative has several fairly close matches at the YDNA-37 level, including a 0 level match, and his matches are all Portuguese or Spanish in origin. The haplogroup is J-M172 indicating North African, Middle Eastern and Southern European origins. We have identified the matching ancestor, but it appears that the births of the common ancestors were illegitimate which has greatly complicated the search. My cousin has been working diligently on doing the research, but so far lots of probabilities, no conclusions. At least we have advanced some in the quest. With my own FamilyFinder results, I have lots of matches. So far, except for my first cousin and one fairly distant cousin from Terceira, I have not been able to identify common ancestors. The match from Terceira confirms the information we have on that line as to its origins in Terceira as discovered on the NEPS database. I have had problems today with Y-DNA matches and the FTDNA site not responding. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vasconcelos Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:31 AM To: azores; azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Finder results in (through part of batch 527) I am pleased with the latest FF results but still remain totally confused with the Y-DNA results that I receive periodically. Recent family finder results indicate that Joan Freitas Estracher (sp?) and I may be as close as 3rd cousins. I have met Joan at Amigos das Flores in Fresno and we have speculated on how we might be related. Previous FF test results have indicated that George Mello (Cheri's father) and I maybe as closely related as 4th cousins although I have no known S. Miguel ancestors. These are people I have met. On the other hand, my Y-dna matches, seem to be totally off the wall. They usually seem to be Welch or other northern european, and very rarely portuguese. Could it be that one of my ancestors was a crew member on one of the Portuguese ships in the Spanish Armada that landed somewhere in the UK?? (BTW, one of my nieces married a Welchman. Wouldn't it be ironic if he turned out to be a distant relative. John Vasconcelos On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Family Finder (FF) results are in up through part of batch 527. They are behind on mtDNA. Some people are having a hard time with Y-DNA (finding the right region on that Y chromosome). If they are having problems with your DNA and the expected date has expired, there will be a note on your page. Right now, I can't get the FTDNA pages to load consistently. Everybody is probably checking their DNA. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC and they are offering a trip to the motherland!
Thanks for the tip, Patricia. I had the same experience with Internet Explorer, but Firefox did work. Diane George -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of pereir...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:37 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Cc: MaryAnn Santos; MaryAnn Santos Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC and they are offering a trip to the motherland! Hi Everyone, Google Chrome which, I use did, not let me enter the contest. A red error message came up. I called Ancestry a patient guy had me try Fierfox while he waited to see if It would work. Hooray, it did. Patricia MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: Thanks, Cheri. I missed the show last night but have saved it to my recorded shows. MaryAnn Santos On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Who Do You Think You Are? aired in California on TLC. I'm guessing it's nationwide for those who get TLC (The Learning Channel) from their TV provider. They are giving away a trip to the motherland if you watch the episode and answer the question correctly. If you don't get TLC, but want to enter anyways, the answer is the Civil War. http://goo.gl/Q34xee And I tried to enter twice, but I was blocked! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- *MaryAnn Santos* Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Genealogy Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, April 2014
I have the same concerns that Richard does about travel during Easter week. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:39 PM To: Azores Genealogy; Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Genealogy Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, April 2014 The Salt Lake Plaza Hotel has a really good special going on during part of April, 2014. The special is stay 3 nights (at $85 USD + taxes) and get the 4th night free (regularly $129 a night). This would be from Monday, April 14th, through Sunday, April 20th, 2014. Our conference would run from Tuesday, April 15th through Friday, April 18th. EASTER SUNDAY is April 20th. So, if we pick the above dates, would it impact our attendance? If you were to join us, would those dates work for you if you are considering joining us (we are not going to hold you to it). The other dates we are thinking of are Tuesday, April 8 through Friday, April 11, 2014. We would get the group rate of $85 USD a night, but no special of stay 3 nights and get the 4th night free. Thanks! Cheri Mello Rosemarie Capodicci Conference coordinators -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Southern California Genealogy Society's Jamboree in Burbank, California, June 7-9, 2013
My husband and I will be there. Diane George (and Bill) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:57 PM To: Azores Genealogy; Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Southern California Genealogy Society's Jamboree in Burbank, California, June 7-9, 2013 Southern California Genealogy Society's Jamboree is at the Burbank Marriott in Burbank, California. Lisa Caetano Harley is going on Thursday night (June 6th) to their pre-thing (on DNA). I'm working on won't be able to attend. I'll be at the Jamboree itself all day on Friday though. Is anyone else going? -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David
I also descend from Francisca. I have attached a chart showing the direct line from Francisca to me. Let me know if you find anything. I will also try to find the baptism records in CCA since the NEPS database shows birthdates and places in the records from Feteira. I am in the middle of a big website project right now so I may not get anything done in the next few days, but should be a little less busy next week. Diane George (Silva) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:03 AM To: azores group; azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David Hi Diane, My info is also from NEPSAlexandre Fereira and Madalena Furtado are my 6th great grandparents as they are yours. I descend through their daughter, Francisca Inacia. I will look in the CCA and find their marriage record and see if it gives us more info to follow. Nancy Jean _ From: digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 17:32:59 -0700 Nancy Jean, I have the same couple in my database as my 6th great grandparents, also from Candelaria, but the birthdates are in 1668 and 1666 and I do not have a marriage date. The data is from the NEPS database, but doesn’t sound right because Madalena would have been 60 when the daughter Francisca Inacia was born (1726). The links to the data for Alexandre are http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA%3blang=en%3bp=alexan drre%3bn=ferreira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre; n=ferreira, and http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalenalang=enm=NGn=Ale xandre++Ferreirat=PN http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalenalang=enm=NGn=Alex andre++Ferreirat=PN I am not sure how to interpret this information at this point. Do you have data from a different source? Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:14 AM To: azores group; azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David Hi David, I noticed your Ferreira from LajesI have an Alexandre Ferreira,born ? in Lajes married in 1724 to Madalena Furtado born in Candelaria. They had 3 children all born in Candelaria. Regards, Nancy Jean _ Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 20:49:40 -0700 From: dsdscorn...@gmail.com mailto:dsdscorn...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David Thanks, Marie... I checked out the various Macedos, but no connection point is yet apparent between our trees. I also couldn't locate your Silveira Cardosos in the CITCEM/NEPS database -- do you know if they're in there? David da Silva Cornell On Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:17:42 AM UTC-4, seek...@aol.com mailto:seek...@aol.com wrote: David, I will give you the names that you mentioned that you are interested in that I have from Lajes. I'll start with just a few at a time: Silveira Cardoso: Antonio Silveira Cardoso (1747-1813); Alferes Jose Silveira Cardoso (1717-1791) Macedo (and combinations) Maria Macedo Ascencao (1825-1892); Maria Macedo Ascencao (1792-1836); Maria Luisa Macedo (1853-1936); Manuel Macedo Bettencourt (1819-1890); Maria Macedo Bettencourt ( 1848-1928); Jose Macedo Bonitinho (1840-1913); Jose Vieira Macedo (1855-1921); Antonio Macedo Evangelho Portugal (1843-1915); Francisco Macedo Evangelho (b. 1822); Francisco Macedo Evangelho (d. 1908); Manuel Macedo Evangelho (b. 1784); Manuel Macedo Evangelho (1746-1822); Rosa Perpetua Macedo Evangelho (d. 1855); Catarina Macedo Jesus (1850-1915); Manuel Joaquim Brum Macedo Bettencourt (1855-1918); Francisca Conceicao Macedo Jesus (1853-1919); Antonio Macedo Machado (b. 1816); Isabel Francisca Macedo (1827-1913); Manuel Macedo Mancebo Evangelho (b. 1808); Jose Macedo Portugal Evangelho (1840-1908); Francisco Macedo Portugal (b. 1863); Maria Macedo Serqueria (d. 1935); Maria Macedo Vieira (1858-1942); Manuel Jose Dutra Macedo (1789-1859); Catarina Macedo (b. 1780); Catarina Macedo (d. 1881); Catarina Macedo (1807-1851); Catarina Vicencia Macedo (b. 1815); Francisca Conceicao Macedo (1859-1908);Antonio Silveira Macedo (1862-1951). That's all for now. I will send you some more that I have from Lajes. Marie Pleasant On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:03:18 PM UTC-7, David wrote: I have tried to locate online either some place from which I can purchase a copy of the book Familias da Ilha das Flores or else some library that has a copy I could request... But no luck yet on either score. Not even the Family History Library Catalog seems to list
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David
Nancy Jean, I have the same couple in my database as my 6th great grandparents, also from Candelaria, but the birthdates are in 1668 and 1666 and I do not have a marriage date. The data is from the NEPS database, but doesn’t sound right because Madalena would have been 60 when the daughter Francisca Inacia was born (1726). The links to the data for Alexandre are http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre ;n=ferreira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=alexandrre; n=ferreira, and http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalenalang=enm=NGn=Ale xandre++Ferreirat=PN http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=cmadalenalang=enm=NGn=Alex andre++Ferreirat=PN I am not sure how to interpret this information at this point. Do you have data from a different source? Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:14 AM To: azores group; azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David Hi David, I noticed your Ferreira from LajesI have an Alexandre Ferreira,born ? in Lajes married in 1724 to Madalena Furtado born in Candelaria. They had 3 children all born in Candelaria. Regards, Nancy Jean _ Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 20:49:40 -0700 From: dsdscorn...@gmail.com mailto:dsdscorn...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lajes, Pico names for David Thanks, Marie... I checked out the various Macedos, but no connection point is yet apparent between our trees. I also couldn't locate your Silveira Cardosos in the CITCEM/NEPS database -- do you know if they're in there? David da Silva Cornell On Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:17:42 AM UTC-4, seek...@aol.com mailto:seek...@aol.com wrote: David, I will give you the names that you mentioned that you are interested in that I have from Lajes. I'll start with just a few at a time: Silveira Cardoso: Antonio Silveira Cardoso (1747-1813); Alferes Jose Silveira Cardoso (1717-1791) Macedo (and combinations) Maria Macedo Ascencao (1825-1892); Maria Macedo Ascencao (1792-1836); Maria Luisa Macedo (1853-1936); Manuel Macedo Bettencourt (1819-1890); Maria Macedo Bettencourt ( 1848-1928); Jose Macedo Bonitinho (1840-1913); Jose Vieira Macedo (1855-1921); Antonio Macedo Evangelho Portugal (1843-1915); Francisco Macedo Evangelho (b. 1822); Francisco Macedo Evangelho (d. 1908); Manuel Macedo Evangelho (b. 1784); Manuel Macedo Evangelho (1746-1822); Rosa Perpetua Macedo Evangelho (d. 1855); Catarina Macedo Jesus (1850-1915); Manuel Joaquim Brum Macedo Bettencourt (1855-1918); Francisca Conceicao Macedo Jesus (1853-1919); Antonio Macedo Machado (b. 1816); Isabel Francisca Macedo (1827-1913); Manuel Macedo Mancebo Evangelho (b. 1808); Jose Macedo Portugal Evangelho (1840-1908); Francisco Macedo Portugal (b. 1863); Maria Macedo Serqueria (d. 1935); Maria Macedo Vieira (1858-1942); Manuel Jose Dutra Macedo (1789-1859); Catarina Macedo (b. 1780); Catarina Macedo (d. 1881); Catarina Macedo (1807-1851); Catarina Vicencia Macedo (b. 1815); Francisca Conceicao Macedo (1859-1908);Antonio Silveira Macedo (1862-1951). That's all for now. I will send you some more that I have from Lajes. Marie Pleasant On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:03:18 PM UTC-7, David wrote: I have tried to locate online either some place from which I can purchase a copy of the book Familias da Ilha das Flores or else some library that has a copy I could request... But no luck yet on either score. Not even the Family History Library Catalog seems to list it... I did locate on a cached page from the Azores Regional Government website an e-mail address for the author, who apparently had a role with a government agency, but the current version of the website no longer carries his name or that government e-mail address, so I have to assume he is no longer in that role and so the e-mail address is no longer effective. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could obtain a hard copy, or are they all gone and I just need to wait for the e-book version to get published (and in the meantime rely on the kindness of strangers for look-ups)? So, pending my getting hands on a copy of the Familias book, I do need to ask for someone to do me the kindness of looking up a couple whom I located in the Lajes das Flores section of the Casais das Flores e do Corvo book, and letting me know in particular the names and birth dates of any children they had: José Francisco Coelho [n. Lomba, Lajes das Flores, f.º de Manuel Furtado Coelho e de Isabel Furtado] c. 1844.09.01 c. Ana da Trindade [f.ª de Manuel Furtado Lourenço e de Maria da Trindade]. -- from Casais, p. 107. Thanks in advance for any help... David da Silva Cornell Miami, FL -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Getting Farther back on Primary Paternal line
I believe that I have Gaspar Camelo do Rego in my tree (my 11th great grandfather), father of Goncalo do Rego de Sousa who was born on Terceira and married to Agada Rebelo, also born on Terceira. So far my data comes from the NEPS database only and is not confirmed yet from the records. They are related to me through my maternal great-grandmother, Maria Gloria Vargas, who was born in Feteira, Faial. Diane George (Silva) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rondo ranch Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 8:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Getting Farther back on Primary Paternal line I do not know if this will help but I have in my tree the following: Gaspar Camelo do Rego born on Sao Miguel, Azores and died January 22, 1624 in Santa Cruz, Terceira. He is the son of Goncalo do Rego Baldaia and Beatriz Camelo Pereira. Goncalo do Rego Baldaia was the son of Goncalo Vaz do Rego (born in Porto) and Maria Baldaia. Goncalo Vaz do Rego was the son of Joao Vaz do Rego and an unknown woman. Maria Baldaia was the daughter of Joao Alfonso Dinis de Beire (who was born in Porto) and Catarina Rodrigues Baldaia. That is the last this lone I have of that Baldaia name. I have more information regard Gaspar's mother's line if anyone is interested. I have another Baldaia in my tree: Afonso Goncalves de Antona Baldaia who was born in Porto and died 1481 in Santa Cruz, Terceira. He maried Dona Antonia Goncalves. They have 3 daughters in my tree who carry the de Antona name. There is a reference to a son name Pedro Afonso Baldaia in an online tree but I have no information about this son. my tree stops with this couple. If anyone is interested I can give the names of their 3 daughters and who they married. doreen caetano -Original Message- From: Altino Demelo Sent: Apr 7, 2013 6:05 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Getting Farther back on Primary Paternal line I have a Pedro do Rego Baldaia in my tree. He married a great aunt of mine named Maria do Lima in São Pedro on 4 Dec 1623. Her parents were Gaspar Rodrigues Limpo and Maria de Lima. Pedro and Maria had joão do Rego Baldaia who married Catarina Falcão (Falcõa) . Sent from my iPad On 2013-04-06, at 11:45 AM, Peter Baldaia peter.bald...@gmail.com mailto:peter.bald...@gmail.com wrote: This is how far I've gotten back. Manuel do Rego Baldaia is your 8th great grandfather http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1756252089 Manuel do Rego Baldaia son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1756189328 João do Rego Baldaia ( - 1767) son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1756108597 Manuel do Rego Baldaia son of João do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1346476199 Manuel do Rego Baldaia (1772 - ) son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1346451175 Jose do Rego Baldaia (1794 - 1843) son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1341819176 Jose Do Rego Baldaia (1817 - ) son of Jose do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/-649802228 Jacinto do Rego Baldaia (1839 - 1910) son of Jose Do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/-656783264 Francisco do Rego Baldaia (1882 - 1966) son of Jacinto do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/-656833674 Joseph Rego Baldaia (1923 - 1975) son of Francisco do Rego Baldaia http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/-656833676 Peter Joseph Baldaia You are the son of Joseph Rego Baldaia - ( http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10340009/person/1756308560 not you?) -- Peter J. Baldaia -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pereira-Pimentel Family Silveira-Martins Family Ponta Delgada Flores
Colleen, Is it possible that the moving blue boxes are the drop down menus? Some of the boxes at the top do not go anywhere until you select from the list that drops down. Those are the ones with the small down arrow on the right side. Hold your cursor at the top level box, then the boxes that drop down are the links to other content. Hope this helps. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wright Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:33 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pereira-Pimentel Family Silveira-Martins Family Ponta Delgada Flores Cheri; When I click on the link below - it takes me to Ancestory site and has these blue boxes that looks like from Azores Gen site. I try to click on a box and it goes no where. The blue boxes keep moving around. Any idea? Thanks, Colleen On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Maria B, It depends on if it was in the last 100 years or not. Addresses for older than 100 years or less than 100 years can be found here: http://goo.gl/81ye1 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS site
Try this link and then select the appropriate link for Ilha do Pico: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcio Borba Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:58 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS site Does anyone know why this genealogy site ios not working? http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/ilhadopico.html Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family from Flamengos, Faial.
Hi, I have checked the names you listed, but none appear in the data I have. I will keep checking. Thanks. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tomas Leal Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 11:14 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family from Flamengos, Faial. Diane George wrote: I had my nephew tested and his Haplogroup is J2, and J-M172 (Shorthand). The most distant paternal ancestor is Joao Inacio da Silva. The baptismal certificate for his son, Jose Ignacio Silva, shows that Joao was from Horta Matriz, Faial, with unknown parents, but we have no other information about him. His wife was Clara Florinda, daughter of Francisco Ignacio da Costa and Maria Clara, from Flamengos, Faial. - - - My paternal grandfather was born in Flamengos in 1888. There are da Costas on his mother's side (my great-grandmother), and I'm wondering whether there is any connection. My grandfather's father is José Silveira Leal; his mother is Francisca Emília da Costa. His mother's parents are Manuel José da Costa and Francisca Ignácia do Coração de Jesus. Her paternal grandparents are António José da Costa and Victoria Luisa. By any chance do any of these names appear as related to any of the da Costas in your family? Her maternal grandparents are Silvestre de Vargas and Teresa Inácia Coração Jesus. In case anyone else has family from Flamengos, the names on my grandfather's father side are: Parents António Silveira Leal and Maria Felicia Rosa. Paternal grandparents are ? Silveira Leal and Joanna Rosa. Maternal grandparents are José(?) Leal Rosa and Elenna Rosa. Tomás Leal -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Martins ancestors from Feteira, Faial
Like Pat, I also missed your original post. I do have a match. Maria Felicia do Coracao de Jesus is a first cousin 5 times removed. I have a birth date of 28 Nov 1826, but no death date. Also a baptism date of 3 Dec 1826. This information came from the NEPS database. Unfortunately, I don't have more than what's in that database for the children. Diane George (Silva) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb McCabe Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Martins ancestors from Feteira, Faial Hi all, I am curious if any of the members of my family tree are also on the trees of others in this group. I thought I would start with this set of ancestors. My direct line male ancestors are ibolded. Everyone on the list lived in Feteira, Faial, Azores unless otherwise noted. I hope someone is a match. Thanks. Deb McCabe Generation #1: Male = Incognito. Female = Maria dos Ramos Generation #2: Jose Francisco dos Ramos Martins (1827-). M: Ana Inacia. Children from M1: Jose Francisco (1828 - ) Maria (1832-1833) Maria Inacia (1837) Generation #3: Jose Francisco Martins M1: Maria Felicia do Coracao de Jesus (1826-1860 or later). Children from M1: Maria Felicia (1853-) wife of Luis Antonio de Macedo Ana (1855 - ) Manuel (1856 - 1937 Oakland, CA). ( Name in US = Manuel Martin Azevedo). . Married Louise Silveira (1871 Rhode Island - 1946 San Leandro, CA) Joao Francisco (1858 -). Married Maria Eugenia Chavez (1864 Boston, MA) Rosa (1860 - 1943 San Leandro, CA). Believe she married Manuel Santos in New Bedford, R.I. M2: Virginia Emilia, daughter of Bento Perreira da Costa and Maria Antonia Children from M2 Filomena (1870-1955) Maria (1872-) Rosalinda (1874-1953) Margarida (1875 - ). Married Joao Correia de Bettencourt in New Bedford MA. Jose (1880-) Maria (1881-) Antonio (1885- 1935 in Oakland, CA.) Used the name Antone Tony Martin in U.S. Married Elizabeth Abreu (1891, Funchal, Madeira - 1957 Los Gatos, CA) ==//== When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y-DNA roll call
I had my nephew tested and his Haplogroup is J2, and J-M172 (Shorthand). The most distant paternal ancestor is Joao Inacio da Silva. The baptismal certificate for his son, Jose Ignacio Silva, shows that Joao was from Horta Matriz, Faial, with unknown parents, but we have no other information about him. His wife was Clara Florinda, daughter of Francisco Ignacio da Costa and Maria Clara, from Flamengos, Faial. My nephew has an exact match with someone whose ancestors are probably from Pico, but so far there is not much information about the paternal line in that family either, except that the father of the 90+ year old person he matches was from the Azores. Diane Silva George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y-DNA roll call How about this idea? Let's do a Y-DNA roll call and anyone who has a direct paternal ancestral line that has at least one of the ancestors born in the Azores. So if you or someone you are related to got the Y-DNA test done through any company, like http://Ancestry.com Ancestry.com, FTDNA, 23andMe, etc, and are willing to share the results on this list, just chime in. Due to privacy issues, only the administrators can see everyone's direct paternal Y-DNA test results. But maybe others, like myself would be interested to get a better picture of the current results. I'll start by repeating some of what I have quoted below about my Terceira ancestry. My direct paternal line goes back to an ancestor named MIGUEL GIL who was born about 1560, probably in Sao Bartolomeu, Terceira. He might be the son of Bras Gil, born about 1542, according to my current estimate. My Haplogroup is R1b1a2 (Shorthand: R-M269). Anyone else willing to add to this? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Genealogist 916-550-1618 Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA haplogroup from Terceira From: mailto:p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 10:30 pm To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Are there any Y-DNA matches between people with Azores ancestry yet? About the SNPs, I see private ones are uncommon: Some Y-DNA subbranch markers, http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers.aspx?id=21#782 SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms), are restricted to a single family that is related in genealogical times (1 to 15 generations). These are family SNPs or private SNPs. Other SNPs are slightly older. They represent paternal lineage groups that predate the adoption of a family surname. These are semi-private SNPs. Both private and semi-private SNPs are uncommon. But I suppose a match certainly doesn't have to be from a private SNP. I'm still trying to get a handle on this... Are there any others who have this: R1b1a2Shorthand: R-M269 Nancy Jean already told me E1b1b2a is for Morocco and Berbers I don't know the shorthand way to call it. My R-M269 is apparently for most of Western Europe. Looking at the graph that lists types A through S, it seems that the closer you get to A, that's the mythical Adam or ground zero, so the E for Berbers are more genetically close to Adam than are letters R, S and T. ( just noticed that T comes before S for some reason - a genetic anomaly? :-) And so my R seems to be one of the most distant or changed/altered DNA from the original Adam. Does it seem I have that straight? Thanks, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Genealogist 916-550-1618 Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA haplogroup from Terceira From: mailto:p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:48 pm To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Maybe before you take any time to answer me, I found this faqs page and am learning some basics: http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers/default.aspx?faqid=26#314 http://www.familytreedna.com/faq/answers/default.aspx?faqid=26#314 Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Genealogist 916-550-1618 Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA haplogroup from Terceira From: mailto:p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com Date: Thu, January 03, 2013 9:40 pm To: mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Hi Rick, OK, I didn't know what I was looking for and just happened upon the badge and that lead me to the answer. They say: Your predicted Haplogroup: R1b1a2Shorthand: R-M269 There are options to order SNPs for $29 each. I wonder what that's about. I'm sure it's a complicated answer, but if you know a way to simplify it, I bet there are others on this list would also like to know. Thanks, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Genealogist 916-550-1618
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on unknown father'
Are the records of foundlings or illegitimate children available online or on microfilm? I have a great-grandfather, Joao Inacio da Silva from Faial, for whom I cannot find any records beyond the baptism certificate of his child, Jose. In the baptism certificate, Joao, the father, is shown as natural de freguesia Horta and it goes on to say paterno de avos incognitos. I hope I am correct about my translation that this means that the child's grandparents (parents of Joao) are unknown. Jose was born in Horta (Conceicao), Faial. Family lore says that he was the child of the local priest and a village girl, but we have no idea which village or church. The story goes further to state that the priest returned and married the girl, but again, there is no evidence to support the story. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Raposo Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on unknown father' Doug is correct in his explanation and observations. I would add that big places like Ponta Delgada and Vila Franca, etc, often had convents, with their lazy Susan wheels. This meant that instead of just abandonning a child in a tiny rural village where he might not be found right away, the child was immediately (unanymously and with the mother unseen by the institution) taken in by the foundling home/convent instead of being left exposed exposto to the elements and the mercy of a chance discovery. The problem is that these convents often did not have enough wet nurses available to take in all of the babies taken in and the death rate was even higher for those children than for the ones who were placed, although the death rate for them was also higher than average. Although the rate of abandonned children was high in the towns and cities, it was also alarmingly high in the villages in the 18th to mid 19th centuries. There are probably two reasons for this: 1- Poverty/too many mouths to feed and not enough land to produce as much food as needed (When the government started paying a stipend to the unwed mother for the care and maintainance of the child, the rate of abandonment dropped dramatically around 1850); 2- the stigma of giving birth to a child outside of marriage. In the villages, the identity of the parents of many of these children of unknown parentage was an open secret. From: p...@dholmes.com mailto:p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com mailto:p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 7:56 AM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on unknown father' Hi Eileen, You are not reading the records correctly. Pai = father Pais = parents (also means country, but not in this case). So what you are talking about are children abandoned and the women married to men are known as the ama or wet nurses given the charge of caring for them. These children are called expostos or foundlings and if they should live to adulthood might choose the surname of these foster parents, but not always, by any means. Expostos tend to be greater in larger locations. Check out the volume of them in a city like Angra where they had separate books for some time periods. Same for Ponta Delgada's parishes. The reason for this might be, or probably is that they were brought from outside villages to the main villages or city. If the woman was single and kept the child, the record usually reads filho/a natural de ... and then the name of the mother. Often, but not always the father will be listed as pai incognito, or simply not mentioned. Good luck, Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Genealogist 916-550-1618 Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on unknown father' From: Eileen Leite eileenle...@seleite.com mailto:eileenle...@seleite.com Date: Sat, December 08, 2012 12:03 am To: azores@googlegroups.com mailto:azores@googlegroups.com I have been reading baptismal records from Matriz Mae de Deus, Povoacao, Sao Miguel, in 1811-1818. I see what I think is a high number of illegitimate births, Pais incognito and (child) natural, and have some questions. 1. It seems that almost every time there is a Pais incognito (father unknown), the record notes that the mother is married to a named someone who is NOT the father of the child. (Casada com or mulher de) Rarely it will say pais incognito and (Mother) solteira. If the mother is single, the format is usually different, and says merely (Child) of (Mother), Single or (Child) natural of (Mother) . Does the priest have a choice in what he writes, or is there a different implication in the format chosen for the record? 2. I counted 13 illegitimate children in a mere 36 pages, or 72 records. That is 18%. Of these, 9 were born to mothers married to men other
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS site
I have just done several searches on the NEPS site, including Lajes de Pico with no problems. You might include a little more detail about what sort of error you are getting (if it is still a problem.) Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of looking4root...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 7:25 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS site Carol, Thanks for responding. Glad to know the NEPS problem isn't something with my computer, but disappointed NEPS is down. Fingers crossed that they are updating. Deb (looking4roots) Sent from my iPad On Nov 14, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com mailto:cdwarn...@gmail.com wrote: Deb-- I have been having the same problem for almost two weeks now. I don't know what the problem is. A cousin of mine, when she saw my post on the Azores Genealogy site, suggested that maybe they are just updating the NEPS websire--which I suppose is possible. I was trying to access Pico and then Lajes do Pico. Carol Silva Warnock Researching Madruga, Silva, Monteiro Vieira--all Lajes do Pico; Madruga Monteiro also on Terceira. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Deb McCabe looking4root...@yahoo.com mailto:looking4root...@yahoo.com wrote: I haven't been able to access the NEPS site all week. I keep an error message. Are others having problems? Deb(looking4roots51) When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off-Topic Computer Mail Question
Do you know what the attachment is-a document, a picture or something else? You can usually tell what it is by the extension-that's the part of the filename that appears after the dot, like .doc or .jpg. That will help you figure out what to use to open it. If you can't see the extension, right-click on the filename (after you save it to your computer) and look at the properties, usually the last choice at the bottom of the list that appears. You should see something that shows the file type, e.g., Word Document, JPG File. Once you know that, it should be possible to figure out if you have the software to view it on your computer. Let me know if you need more help. You may want to contact me directly. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:49 AM To: azores; azores Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off-Topic Computer Mail Question This has happened to me a couple of times and I am not sure how to correct it. My niece sent me an attachment to her email. I am using Windows XP on my main computer. On my laptop I am using Windows 7. It opens in Windows 7 OK but in XP it is just a bunch of small boxes. What do I have to do to get it to open in XP? I tried different encoding but can't seem to find a right one or will I be able to open it in XP? Any and all help appreciated. Remember you are talking to a computer semi-illiterate person here aka an proud senior citizen :-) Thanks. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of surnames on quotes on the NEPS site
I guess this means my ancestors had some interesting traits. I am assuming that these would not be part of the actual surnames for purposes of my genealogy database. Let me know if my assumption is incorrect. Thanks to all for the info. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Denise Nelson Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:21 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of surnames on quotes on the NEPS site Hi I have heard my grandparents and mom call these pleas or nicknames? Does that make sense? So many family names were the same so certain clans or families were given nicknames to differentiate or identify them. Our family We're the Denis or crickets when I went to the Azores to my grandfathers village we were taken to the Mat of the crickets where they spent most of their time milking cows wow! Then I understood Denise Nelson Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone know the meaning of the use of quotation marks on surnames in the NEPS site. Examples are: Manuel Jose foliao Antonio o cabaco Jose cambado The English translations are merrymaker, the gourd and unstable. I have not located the original records yet, but wanted to see if anyone knows what this means first. Thanks Diane George -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of surnames on quotes on the NEPS site
Hi, Does anyone know the meaning of the use of quotation marks on surnames in the NEPS site. Examples are: Manuel Jose foliao Antonio o cabaco Jose cambado The English translations are merrymaker, the gourd and unstable. I have not located the original records yet, but wanted to see if anyone knows what this means first. Thanks Diane George -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
