Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamav on Linux

2008-01-29 Thread Jim Maul
Török Edwin wrote:
 Quỳnh H Nguyễn wrote:
 After remove it manual. There is still error when clamd start, it will
 create /tmp/clamd.socket

 And this is the next error. If solve this problem, I think you fixed my
 error. I'm so sorry because I can not understand to config and fix it by
 myself! I'm newbie.
   
 
 The policy file says the socket should be created here. Edit clamd.conf
 and move the socket here:
 
 /var/spool/amavisd/clamd\.sock-s  
 gen_context(system_u:object_r:clamd_var_run_t,s0)
 



And as such has absolutely nothing to do with clamav and everything to 
do with selinux and understanding log files.  Edwin - you have been 
extremely kind and helpful to this clueless noob who continues to post 
in the wrong mailing list.  Perhaps he should gain a better 
understanding of his system before trying to incorporate things like 
clamav - especially with selinux involved!

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Re: [Clamav-users] RPM 0.90.2 FC4

2007-04-19 Thread Jim Maul
Steven Stern wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 Dennis Peterson wrote:
 Steven Stern wrote:

 Robert Niepel wrote:
 Hello,

 an anyone tell me where i can get RPM?s for Fedora Core 4?
 Or has anyone have an hotwo to build those rpm from tar.gz?


 download the unpack the tar.gz file
 In the directory,

 ./configure
 make
 make install

 Here's how I invoke configure:

 ./configure --enable-milter --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr \
 - --sysconfdir=/etc --with-dbdir=/var/lib/clamav --disable-zlib-vcheck
 I think this will not create an rpm.

 
 An RPM isn't needed. This will install the current version of Clam.
 
 

You are correct.  However the OP asked for an RPM.  You provided him 
with an irrelevant response which im sure was DPs point.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Install clamav on CentOS 4.4

2007-04-18 Thread Jim Maul
Rob MacGregor wrote:
 On 4/18/07, Gustavo Gouvea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 has anyone instaled clamav on CentOS 4.4 before?? Any tips??? Which version 
 of Openssl do I need to use? Will I have to do it from the source code? By 
 now, Ive been using the rpm packages from Petr Kristof.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# yum install clamav
 Setting up Install Process
 Setting up repositories
 Reading repository metadata in from local files
 Parsing package install arguments
 Resolving Dependencies
 -- Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
 --- Package clamav.i386 110:0.90.1-1 set to be updated
 -- Running transaction check
 -- Processing Dependency: libssl.so.5 for package: clamav
 -- Processing Dependency: libcrypto.so.5 for package: clamav
 -- Processing Dependency: libkrb5support.so.0 for package: clamav
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 Error: Missing Dependency: libssl.so.5 is needed by package clamav
 Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.5 is needed by package clamav
 Error: Missing Dependency: libkrb5support.so.0 is needed by package clamav

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# find / -name libssl*
 /lib/libssl.so.4
 /lib/libssl.so.0.9.7a
 /usr/lib/libssl.a
 /usr/lib/thunderbird-1.5.0.5/libssl3.so
 /usr/lib/libssl.so
 /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.5/libssl3.so
 /usr/lib/libssl3.so

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# rpm -qa |grep openssl
 openssl-devel-0.9.7a-43.14
 xmlsec1-openssl-1.2.6-3
 openssl-0.9.7a-43.14
 
 Well, the most likely response is that you should install from source :)
 
 Others have already talked about this on the CentOS forums, though the
 general flavour was very hostile.  I suspect you just need to upgrade
 your other packages, particularly openssl and openssl-devel.
 

Im surprised that no one mentioned the real easy way to solve all this. 
  Download the SRC rpm. then rebuild for your specific environment and 
install built rpms.  quick and easy.

I grab the src rpm from dag or kristof or wherever then do rpmbuild 
--rebuild whatever.src.rpm and your all set.  Since i dont use milter i 
specify -without-milter as well.

This allows you to keep the system updated with rpm without having to 
wait for someone to build it for you for your specific arch.

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Re: [Clamav-users] error stops clamd

2007-04-11 Thread Jim Maul
Jason Frisvold wrote:
 On 4/11/07, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Depends on what your goals are.

 For me, a reliable email system does not just mean mail gets
 delivered.  It also means that we reliably reject detectable viruses.
   If we're letting viruses through because our pants are down (because
 our AV tool has failed), then that's not a reliable email system.
 That's a dysfunctional email system.
 
 Agreed...
 
 better monitoring and notification: yes, good.
 
 Check out argus (http://argus.tcp4me.com) ..  Works wonderfully for me.
 
 It's like using condoms.  Just because you run out of condoms doesn't
 make unprotected sex suddenly safe.  Accepting email from the world
 without your AV tool processing it is as irresponsible as having
 unprotected sex with the entire world.
 
 Ugh..  Thanks..  I'm gonna have nightmares for weeks now..
 

nightmares?  hah to some that is their dream! ;)

-Jim



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Re: [Clamav-users] problem with clamav and cpu

2007-03-29 Thread Jim Maul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:54:18 +0200 (CEST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, usually clamav use 100% of my cpu making the load average very
hight,
latelay i have had even a big error in the log :
clamscan: corrupt or unknown ClamAV scanner error or
memory/resource/perms
problem - exit status 40

i use qmail with qmail-scanner, is there a way to make clamav use less
cpu ?

yes, stop using clamscan and replace it with clamdscan/clamd

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i will try thanks, which is better clamdscan or clamd or is it the same?




You obviously do not understand anything relating to clamav.  clamscan 
is a standalone application.  It scans files for viruses.  Clamd is a 
virus scanning daemon.  You use clamDscan to pass files to clamd for 
scanning.  Perhaps some documentation reading is in order.


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Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan-procfilter.pl stops working after upgrade to 0.9X clamav

2007-03-19 Thread Jim Maul

Michael Brown wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I'm new to this list, but a long time user of ClamAV.

For years I've been using this simple procmail (clamscan-procfilter.pl) 
script from

http://www.virtualblueness.net/~blueness/clamscan-procfilter/

It's worked great, until I upgraded to the 0.9X ClamAV and it no longer 
is able to pass e-mails to the clamav daemon. I'm not sure why, but as 
far as I can tell everything is peachy with clamav, freshclam runs just 
fine, the clamd process is running. The configuration file is correct. 
The only thing I can guess (and after searching the mail list since no 
one else has reported this yet) is maybe some scanning parameters for 
the new clamav has changed and that's why this script is not working.


The script has a section where it passes the e-mail to the clamdscan 
script to scan and then later in the file does other things to redirect 
virus infected e-mails, etc.  As far as I can tell, the files are being 
sent over to scan, but they remain (never removed after a successful 
scan). I thought maybe this is not using the right command to scan the 
file (updated version has new parameters) and thus that's why e-mails 
are not getting a proper clamav scan.


If anyone has experience with this procmail script, any information 
would be greatly appreciated.


# Where are your binaries?
#
$MKTEMP='/bin/mktemp' ;
$CLAMSCAN='/usr/bin/clamdscan' ;
$FORMAIL='/usr/bin/formail' ;

#
# Read in the email from stdin
#
@file =  ;

#
# Create/open a temp file for the output of clamscan
#
$TMPFILE=`$MKTEMP /tmp/clamtemp.XX` ;
chomp $TMPFILE ;
open  CLAM, |$CLAMSCAN --stdout --mbox -  $TMPFILE ;


Im not running 0.9X but im pretty sure --mbox isnt valid anymore.  And 
why is the variable CLAMSCAN when its calling clamDscan?  Its just a 
little confusing...




print CLAM @file ;
close CLAM ;


Thanks,
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Re: [Clamav-users] Re: 0.90.1 freshclam error

2007-03-14 Thread Jim Maul

Daniel T. Staal wrote:

On Wed, March 14, 2007 10:08 am, Robert Isaac said:

Thanks. This gave

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# grep LocalSocket clamd.conf
# LocalSocket /tmp/clamd
LocalSocket /usr/sbin

Ouch, pointing LocalSocket to /usr/sbin is not a good idea.

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I have removed all of clamav/clamd and reinstalled the rpms and clamd was
put in /usr/bin, but /etc/clamd.conf shows LocalSocket /tmp/clamd Is this
correct?


Yes.  The socket is not the program, it is a connector, _created by_ the
program.   /tmp or /var/run are common places for it.



Yes, you seem to be confusing the binary program /usr/bin/clamd with the 
socket file which is created by clamd when it starts up.  With the 
clamd.conf setting you had originally:


 LocalSocket /usr/sbin

You are attempting to overwrite the clamd executable with the socket.  I 
cant even imagine what results this would produce.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem after upgrade

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Maul

Awie wrote:

Hi all,

After upgrading to ClamAV 0.90.1, I got problem with message below:

clamdscan: corrupt or unknown clamd scanner error or memory/resource/perms
problem - exit status 512/2

Would you tell me the source of such problem? Your answer is very
appreciated and waited for.




This is not a clamav issue.  You are probably running clamd as a 
different user or maybe your install configured things as a different 
user than you had in the past.  Check to see what user clamd is running 
as and make sure all clamav directories are accessible by that user.


Also, is clamd running?

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Re: [Clamav-users] clamav vs norton

2007-03-02 Thread Jim Maul

Sean Pinegar wrote:

I trusted clamav for a long time but ran across an interesting problem today. I 
received an e-mail from a friend that included a powerpoint. I opened the 
powerpoint in linux and wine flagged it as a virus (not sure how wine knew 
there was a virus...can anyone enlighten me on that?). I scanned it with clamav 
and it said the file was ok. I scanned it with norton and it came up as being 
infected. I updated clamAV and tried again, same results..the file was ok. I 
was just curious if anyone else has ran into this type of problem? I dont want 
to ditch clamAV but i have to do whats best for the business.

-Sean-



Things like this occur frequently, and not just with clamav.  If you 
have a file that is not detected, you should submit it so that a 
signature can be included in future updates.


Also, whats best for the business is to run multiple  virus scanners and 
not rely on a single one.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Local mirror with .90

2007-02-23 Thread Jim Maul

Shawn Badger wrote:

I'm sure this has been asked already, but I haven't been able to find
it. How do I get the .cdiff files? I had a local mirror set up, but
since .90 was installed they are looking for the .cdiff files.

Before I was just doing a symbolic link on my server to .cvd files it
was using and having the clients download those. That doesn't work with
the new format. Sorry for the rambling, but if anyone knows how to do a
a local mirror using the new format please let me know!!
_


Theres a setting something about incremental updates which you should 
turn off.  This will allow you to use the old .cvd style.  I havent 
looekd at 0.90 yet so im not 100% sure of the actual setting.


-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Auto scan problems

2007-02-15 Thread Jim Maul

carren stuart wrote:

carren stuart wrote:

A while back, I wrote:



I'm running Clamav on DesktopBSD, with Klamav as the front end. Clamav
is working fine and has detected the eicar test files as expected but I
cannot get auto-scanning to work. Whenever I enable auto-scan I get the
following error:

The auto-scan process died unexpectedly

I have dazuko installed and loaded, and as far as I know it's working
OK. What causes this error and what should I do to fix it?



Then I wrote again:



But I haven't had any replies as yet. Can somebody please help me with
this as I really want to get auto scanning working.



Is there some reason why my posts aren't even being acknowledged? I
can't believe that nobody knows the answer to my question. This IS the
users list and I'm a user, so could somebody PLEASE help me with this.



ack.  Would you rather someone reply and say wow, that sucks, but i 
cant help you?


How many people here are even using dazuko?  or the KlamAV frontend for 
that matter.  This is the ClamAV users list, if you have a problem 
running ClamAV, feel free to ASK your question here.  Demanding help 
will get you nowhere.


You provided no useful information either.  Saying:

Whenever I enable auto-scan I get the following error:
The auto-scan process died unexpectedly

is not helpful at all.  I would imagine any number of things could cause 
that message to be displayed.  Asking what causes that error is like 
asking what causes my car not to start when i turn the key?


Also, you mention that as far as you know dazuko is working.  You 
expect someone to take time to help you when you arent even sure if a 
base component in your setup is working properly?  Why not actually 
verify that its working before even asking this question here?


With that said, I have never used on access scanning myself so I can not 
offer any help in that area.


-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Re: ClamAV version mismatch

2007-01-04 Thread Jim Maul

Mathias wrote:
What mail server do you run? And how does the mailserver determine the 
clamdscan header?


I'm running qmail with qmailscan 1.25. I guess something has got to be 
compiled in there although I thougt that qmailscan was just a perlscript 
(qmail-scanner-queue.pl). I'll dig into it unless you know right away 
where the problem lies?




The problem is with qmail-scanner.  You must run qmail-scanner-queue.pl 
-z to get it to re-read the version information from your installed 
scanners.  This is all on the qmail-scanner website somewhere.  FWIW, 
this is purely aesthetic, the old version info is stored in 
qmail-scanner-queue-version.txt but it is actually using the newer 
version of clamav you have installed.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Update / upgrade questions

2007-01-04 Thread Jim Maul

Vanco, Don wrote:

Hello all -
New user here, couple quick questions.

Background:
I am trying to support a customer under a bit of duress.  I know Linux,
but have not worked with ClamAV directly myself, so am a bit hesitant
because this is an env. that processes 250k emails a day.

I've read over the FAQ, and things seem fairly clear, but I wanted to
ask a couple quick questions to bolster my confidence before I proceed.
Upgrade will be done via remote access.

System:
RHEL 3 Update 8, AS, on 32-bit Intel 2-way server
Running QMail (netqmail 1.05) (I have seen a post in the archives about
running a QMail script to update the scan headers after install/upgrade)



Yes, you should run qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z after you have the new 
version of clamav installed to pull the new version information and 
update the .txt file that holds this info.  Everything will work fine 
even if you dont do this, but the headers will have the old version info.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Why does clam die on a malformed database ?

2007-01-02 Thread Jim Maul

Chuck Swiger wrote:

Bill Landry wrote:
[ ... ]

You are preaching to the choir here, as you have no argument from me.  I
raised the same issue the last time this happened to me a few weeks ago
and clamd died twice on me in one day.  The script work-around to check
the databases before implementing them has saved my bacon with this last
string of corrupted databases from MSRBL.  However, I still agree that
clamd should be able to handle these kinds of issues gracefully, and in
the alternative, should not simply die silently.


Agreed-- it would be nice if clamd was more robust, either by continuing 
to run with the other DBs (as available) and either drop the bad line or 
the entire bad DB file, until a new update comes along which is OK.


However, improving how clamd responds to a bad DB is solving a 
consequence or symptom rather than the original problem.  Maybe we 
should try to persuade the MSRBL site (and others) to use a similar 
checking script when pushing new versions of the DB's out, rather than 
checking upon receipt after people have used bandwidth to download and 
then have to discard a bad update...?




Not really.  Its about the same as going to a doctor and saying hey 
doc, it hurts when i go like this and he responds with well, dont do 
that.  Just as this is not a real solution, telling all DB creators to 
make sure their files are ok or clamd will die is not a solution.  This 
isnt to say that these maintainers should not check the integrity of the 
files they produce - they indeed should - but the real solution is that 
clamd should not fail when it encounters a bad database file.  This is 
the only true way to avoid problems in this case.


-Jim

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Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Jim Maul

Dennis Peterson wrote:

G.W. Haywood wrote:

Hi there,

Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied:


Why not just run freshclam as a daemon?

Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going.


Talk of freshclam dying gives me some discomfort, yet in almost two
years running freshclam as a daemon on two - not particularly busy -
servers I've never seen it fail.  It uses around a megabyte of memory
on a machine with 2G of RAM and, doing hourly updates, it takes maybe
three seconds of CPU per month on a 1GHz twin-processor Pentium box.

Naturally if freshclam dies we can expect people to mention it.  I'm
calling for those who run freshclam as a daemon and who don't see any
problems with it to chip into this thread.  How many of us are there?

Here are the non-comment line in my config in case it has a bearing:

DatabaseDirectory /var/lib/clamav
UpdateLogFile /tmp/.clam/freshclam.log
LogVerbose
LogSyslog
PidFile /var/run/clam/freshclam.pid
DNSDatabaseInfo current.cvd.clamav.net
DatabaseMirror db.uk.clamav.net
DatabaseMirror database.clamav.net
MaxAttempts 5
Checks 24

Here's how I start it:

/usr/local/bin/freshclam -d --daemon-notify=/etc/mail/clamav/clamd.conf

Does anyone have any clues to the reasons behind freshclam's apparent
unreliability under some circumstances?  Bad DB servers?  Mail load?
Swap?  Locking?  Conflict with other processes?  OS?  Libraries?  ...

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The operation of freshclam is unrelated to the traffic volume of the 
site so that is unimportant. It does only one job and it does it well. A 
busy site only means it is a greater liability if it should fail or if 
it should copy or produce flawed files, or fail to download new files.


But if you run it as a daemon in a production environment then it is a 
simple best practice next step to monitor it and restart it should it 
fail. You may have a different view of what is a best practice in this 
regard (and it may even extend beyond freshclam) that leads you to 
choose to run freshclam as a daemon without monitoring and watchdog 
restart capability.


I can only tell you from my experience with several years and many 
versions of ClamAV that I have found no advantage in any category to 
running freshclam as a daemon, and running it in cron gives me many 
options not otherwise available - not the least of which is I can run it 
at random intervals to help break up lockstep assaults on the servers it 
polls.


And as an old school Unix admin who still believes in the mentoring 
responsibility of my position, I will make recommendations from time to 
time regarding best practices and I recommend if you run freshclam as a 
daemon that you monitor it and restart it if needed. Sun's SMF and other 
 methodologies (cfengine, watchdog) can do this trivially but fail to do 
other checks of data integrity which must be scripted. So long as clamd 
can be killed and left unable to restart because of the presence of a 
corrupt or badly formated ndb file and since the db update process 
requires scripting anyway it makes sense to me to wrap the freshclam 
process and fetching other db's in cron driven scripts that:


Run at random intervals
Validate the databases that are downloaded including those that are not 
collected by freshclam (Sane Security, MSRBL, for examples)

Move the validated files to the working directory
Test the new files against known samples
Retry on error or server failures
Notify the admin chain and log the error

This is not rocket science.



Who said it was?  The OP clearly asked for people who run freshclam as a 
daemon who have NOT had problems with it in the setup.  You are not one 
of those people so im still trying to figure out why you felt the need 
to post.


Cmon, this is not rocket science.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Jim Maul

Dennis Peterson wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:

Dennis Peterson wrote:




This is not rocket science.



Who said it was?  The OP clearly asked for people who run freshclam as 
a daemon who have NOT had problems with it in the setup.  You are not 
one of those people so im still trying to figure out why you felt the 
need to post.


Cmon, this is not rocket science.


As one of those who talked of freshclam dying I was offering background 
on why I did so and the disciplines that cause me to configure systems 
as I do. What was the purpose of your post?


dp



The purpose of my post was to point out that you did not even remotely 
provide what the OP was asking for.  He was asking to hear from those of 
us who DO use freshclam as a daemon and what OUR experiences were. 
Instead, you chose to give a detailed explanation on why DONT use 
freshclam in daemon mode and what you do instead.  Then you chose to 
throw in a little condescending this is not rocket science comment at 
the end.  Classy really.


Happy holidays.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.88.7 possible error

2006-12-14 Thread Jim Maul

Robert Isaac wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 13 December 2006 21:13
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] 0.88.7 possible error

Robert Isaac wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 13 December 2006 18:55
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] 0.88.7 possible error

Robert Isaac wrote:

Yesterday I installed 0.88.7 on our server running RHESL-4

using the

rpms from DAG, previously using 0.88.6. Our LogWatch file

this morning shows:

**Unmatched Entries**
clamd shutdown succeeded
clamd shutdown failed
clamd daemon 0.88.7 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: i386, CPU: 
i386) Bound to 

address
127.0.0.1 on port 3310 Portable Executable support enabled. 
Detection of broken executables enabled. 
clamd startup succeeded
Mail: Recursion level limit set to 64. 
HTML support enabled. 
clamd daemon 0.88.7 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386)

bind() error: Address already in use

Is there a problem here somewhere? Thanks


Did you stop the old clamd server before starting the new one?

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No I didn't. Ooops. What should I do now?

Bob



Just kill all instances of clamd and then start up clamd again.

Steve



There was only one instance running. Killed it and restarted it. Then in
today's LogWatch:

**Unmatched Entries**
clamd shutdown failed


I already pointed this out, but perhaps its worth repeating.  Whatever 
script is trying to shutdown clamd is failing.  You need to figure out 
why this is happening.  If clamd does not shut down correctly, it will 
ALWAYS fail when trying to start it back up.  Killing it manually is not 
a fix, its a workaround.




clamd daemon 0.88.7 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) Bound to address
127.0.0.1 on port 3310 clamd startup succeeded Portable Executable support
enabled. 
Detection of broken executables enabled. 
Mail: Recursion level limit set to 64. 
HTML support enabled.


Bob


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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.88.7 possible error

2006-12-13 Thread Jim Maul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Robert Isaac wrote:

Yesterday I installed 0.88.7 on our server running RHESL-4 using the rpms
from DAG, previously using 0.88.6. Our LogWatch file this morning shows:

**Unmatched Entries**
clamd shutdown succeeded
clamd shutdown failed


Oops, look at that, it didnt shutdown.


clamd daemon 0.88.7 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) Bound to 
address
127.0.0.1 on port 3310 Portable Executable support enabled. Detection 
of broken executables enabled. clamd startup succeeded
Mail: Recursion level limit set to 64. HTML support enabled. clamd 
daemon 0.88.7 (OS: linux-gnu, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386)

bind() error: Address already in use



Of course the address is already in use.  Clamd is still running.

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Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan sped

2006-11-27 Thread Jim Maul

Erez Epstein wrote:

well, i'm not sure if thats the right solution, as smart virus  or old
file with new virus definiton will not be found.
also i know all other virus scanners do scan all files.



Then perhaps you should be using other virus scanners.  Use the tool 
that best fits the job.  If you find that clamav takes a long time to 
scan a large drive, that may be because this was not the primary purpose 
of the product.


Clam AntiVirus is a GPL anti-virus toolkit for UNIX. The main purpose of 
this software is the integration with mail servers (attachment scanning).


While im sure the number of uses for clamav is growing all the time, if 
you try to use a product for a task that it was not designed for and it 
does that task poorly, why continue to try to make it work?  Find a 
product that works for you in this particular situation and use that 
instead.


-Jim



On 11/26/06, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erez Epstein wrote:

 and how can i shorten it while still scaning all files every night.

Don't scan all of them every night. There is no need to scan a file that
has not been modified since the last scan. There is probably no need to
scan your logs, /var, /usr, /opt, /proc, /dev, /bin, /sbin, or /devices
(or any root owned directory) unless you think you have been hacked and
had your root account compromised.

You probably don't want to scan NFS mounts or Samba mounts as it is
rather expensive in terms of network traffic and speed, and introduces
all kinds of interesting permissions and connection reliability issues.

Clam is not a good intrusion detection tool so you might want to run
TripWire or some similar tool that will tell you which files have been
modified so you can limit your scan to those few files that require
scanning.

dp
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Re: FW: [Clamav-users] clamscan sped

2006-11-27 Thread Jim Maul

Arthur Sherman wrote:

Hi Jim,

What AV would you suggest for SAMBA?




Sorry, I have no suggestions as I have never tried to do this.  We have 
symantec AV on all our windows workstations and I use only clamav on our 
mail server.  Im sure others will have many suggestions.


-Jim




Best,

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+972-52-4878851
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:18 PM
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan sped

Erez Epstein wrote:
well, i'm not sure if thats the right solution, as smart 

virus  or old

file with new virus definiton will not be found.
also i know all other virus scanners do scan all files.

Then perhaps you should be using other virus scanners.  Use the tool 
that best fits the job.  If you find that clamav takes a long time to 
scan a large drive, that may be because this was not the 
primary purpose 
of the product.


Clam AntiVirus is a GPL anti-virus toolkit for UNIX. The main 
purpose of 
this software is the integration with mail servers 
(attachment scanning).


While im sure the number of uses for clamav is growing all 
the time, if 
you try to use a product for a task that it was not designed 
for and it 
does that task poorly, why continue to try to make it work?  Find a 
product that works for you in this particular situation and use that 
instead.


-Jim



On 11/26/06, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erez Epstein wrote:

and how can i shorten it while still scaning all files 

every night.
Don't scan all of them every night. There is no need to 

scan a file that
has not been modified since the last scan. There is 

probably no need to
scan your logs, /var, /usr, /opt, /proc, /dev, /bin, 

/sbin, or /devices
(or any root owned directory) unless you think you have 

been hacked and

had your root account compromised.

You probably don't want to scan NFS mounts or Samba mounts as it is
rather expensive in terms of network traffic and speed, 

and introduces
all kinds of interesting permissions and connection 

reliability issues.
Clam is not a good intrusion detection tool so you might 

want to run
TripWire or some similar tool that will tell you which 

files have been

modified so you can limit your scan to those few files that require
scanning.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Maul

Bart Silverstrim wrote:


On Nov 9, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Jim Redman wrote:


Folks,

I have to say, of all the lists I subscribe to, the vocal members of 
this list are the most arrogant and insulting.  However, I consider 
comments such as Luca Gibelli's, bandwidth wasting, We are happy to 
suffer this loss. and Dennis Peterson's His specific problem is he 
lacks the skill to install and manage the product reflect more about 
the person making the comment, rather than the target.


You're forgetting one detail that probably was the most provoking, 
though.  He started right off saying he cherishes his ignorance.


How many of our problems as sysadmins come from user ignorance?  How 
much worse is it when you have to deal with another peer's ignorance, 
and worse yet, WILLFUL ignorance?  Hi, I'm hired to do a complicated 
and skillful job as a sysadmin, but want to know nothing about how or 
why this software stuff works...can you help me?  By, like, doing it for 
me?




Maybe i missed it, but where in his original email did he ask anyone to 
help him by doing something for him?  From what i can see, he didnt even 
ask for help at all.  The way i took it was:


Gee, I downloaded this package for clamav and installed it and now there 
are all sorts of other things that still need to be done to get it 
working correctly. Maybe clamav developers could work with the package 
maintainers to make this process go more smoothly?


To which he received responses like:

Your an idiot.
We dont care.
Shut up and stop posting crap like this to the list.

To me it seems like everyone missed the point and made their own 
assumptions as to what he *really* meant.  Maybe the title was worded 
poorly, or his post looked too similar to others that people have seen 
in the past and it triggered an immediate negative response from them, 
or maybe its just that some people on this list havent gotten any lately 
and are grumpy - who knows.  But to berate someone like this over a post 
they made which i believe was interpreted incorrectly to begin with is 
completely wrong.  I mean cmon, the subject clearly states its directed 
at packagers.  Give the guy a flippin break.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Maul

James Kosin wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
 
Jim Maul wrote:

Maybe i missed it, but where in his original email did he ask anyone
to help him by doing something for him?  From what i can see, he
didnt even ask for help at all.  The way i took it was:

Gee, I downloaded this package for clamav and installed it and now
there are all sorts of other things that still need to be done to
get it working correctly. Maybe clamav developers could work with
the package maintainers to make this process go more smoothly?

To which he received responses like:

Your an idiot.
We dont care.
Shut up and stop posting crap like this to the list.

To me it seems like everyone missed the point and made their own
assumptions as to what he *really* meant.  Maybe the title was
worded poorly, or his post looked too similar to others that people
have seen in the past and it triggered an immediate negative
response from them, or maybe its just that some people on this list
havent gotten any lately and are grumpy - who knows.  But to berate
someone like this over a post they made which i believe was
interpreted incorrectly to begin with is completely wrong.  I mean
cmon, the subject clearly states its directed at packagers.  Give
the guy a flippin break.

-Jim

Ok,

I'm usually very patient when it comes to responses to email's like
this.  But, I believe he is really asking the wrong people.  He should
be going to the package maintainers.  This group is usually content
with compiling and installing directly from source.



Are they really no package maintainers on this list?  I find that hard 
to believe.  Is it really necessary to punish someone for thinking that 
maybe, just maybe, a message about clamav packages on the clamav-users 
list might actually get seen by some packagers themselves?




Like Dennis said Bringing it all together is what the admin is for.

ClamAV is a powerful tool; but, would you give a chainsaw to your
2-year old to use  I think not.

Everyone has to learn.  There is no shortcuts when it comes to being a
sysadmin, no matter what level you are.  You can make things easier;
but, usually at a cost.  No one here is willing to make ClamAV a
butter knife when it is already a chainsaw.



Of course.  Im not saying i completely agree with everything the OP 
wrote.  Im simply saying that i believe people misinterpreted what he 
was ultimately trying to say, and then insulted him because of it.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Maul

Dennis Peterson wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:

Bart Silverstrim wrote:


On Nov 9, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Jim Redman wrote:


Folks,

I have to say, of all the lists I subscribe to, the vocal members of 
this list are the most arrogant and insulting.  However, I consider 
comments such as Luca Gibelli's, bandwidth wasting, We are happy to 
suffer this loss. and Dennis Peterson's His specific problem is he 
lacks the skill to install and manage the product reflect more 
about the person making the comment, rather than the target.


You're forgetting one detail that probably was the most provoking, 
though.  He started right off saying he cherishes his ignorance.


How many of our problems as sysadmins come from user ignorance?  How 
much worse is it when you have to deal with another peer's ignorance, 
and worse yet, WILLFUL ignorance?  Hi, I'm hired to do a complicated 
and skillful job as a sysadmin, but want to know nothing about how or 
why this software stuff works...can you help me?  By, like, doing it 
for me?




Maybe i missed it, but where in his original email did he ask anyone 
to help him by doing something for him?  From what i can see, he didnt 
even ask for help at all.  The way i took it was:


Gee, I downloaded this package for clamav and installed it and now 
there are all sorts of other things that still need to be done to get 
it working correctly. Maybe clamav developers could work with the 
package maintainers to make this process go more smoothly?


This is precisely a request for help and for someone, anyone but him, to 
build a product to his specification. Your statement is made illogical 
by your example.




Says who, you?  Sorry, but I really couldn't care less about what you 
have to say.  By the way, it was a SUGGESTION, not precisely a request 
for help as you seem to think.



In fact he went on to write several screens of rant about why he doesn't 
like the services of the ClamAV packagers. Had he written code instead 
of smearing their efforts he'd have a working installer now.




Sorry, everyone isnt as smart as you think you are.

In fact, apache, a far more common application than ClamAV, requires 
vastly more after-install configuration and management effort than does 
ClamAV, so his premise is farcical.




Yes, but will it WORK without this after-install configuration and 
management?  Yes, it will.


There are no well-known IP ports for clamd and no well-known locations 
for Unix sockets. There is no master plan to tie various milter/filter 
programs together to use ClamAV. I use a milter and Sendmail. Others may 
prefer to use procmail. SpamAssassin is popular. Bringing it all 
together is what the admin is for. Continued user intervention is 
extremely necessary - this product has no brain - come prepared to use 
your own.


Of course.  This job is not for the braindead or those who would rather 
not exercise their mind.  That is in no way a reason for a product not 
to be improved if there is room for improvement.




Finally, it is a service not offered by the ClamAV team and personally 
I'd prefer they focus on getting 0.90 released than hand-holding slacker 
admins. My, aren't I being judgmental! Hell yes. I'm tired of sharing 
critical Internet services with admins who are not committed to their 
responsibilities.




And the OP may very well not be one of those committed admins.  Who 
cares?  He is still human and may actually have a valid suggestion - 
imagine that?!  You seem to have completely ignored the real reason for 
the post and instead focused on the negatives as you seem to have some 
personal vendetta against anyone that isnt as smart as you.  I bet its 
lonely on top your little pedestal, no?


The binaries page has several links to packagers who are in a position 
to help. One of them supports his package. Those two should get together 
and solve this hellish problem. And he should quit laying blame on 
everyone else for his dire condition.





To think that there *might* actually be some packagers who are 
listening. Blasphemous!

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Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Maul

Bart Silverstrim wrote:


On Nov 9, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Daniel J McDonald wrote:


On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 10:24 -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote:

On Nov 7, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Jim Redman wrote:


Chris,



Christopher X. Candreva wrote:

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Jim Redman wrote:



My observation is that of all the modern packages ClamAV fails to
install and run successfully and securely without operator
intervention.  I think that this should be refined to reference
Fedora packages and perhaps not all of them.


I don't use Fedora - I use Mandriva.  And my experience has been that
the RPMS provided by Mandriva do allow you to run out of the box with
very little tweaking.  That is important to me - I manage about 20 linux
servers, but my primary responsibility is 196 routers and firewalls.
I'm not ignorant of the build process - I learned how to build SRPM's
working with this package - I merely don't have the time to mess with
it.  So, I understand the sentiment.



There are a number of reasons why I consider this a bad thing
(other opinions have been expressed by others on the list).




4) (Altruism) It limits the adoption of ClamAV which in turn
increase the number/penetration of viruses.


Maybe the project doesn't WANT people who have problems with their
installs caused by willful ignorance...just a thought.


I personally think that's a poor attitude.  Clueless newbies are
important too.  I personally will dump a project that takes too long to
get working at all.  As long as I can see progress it will keep my
interest.


Cluelessness is one thing.  Willful cluelessness is another.  There is a 
difference.


What you're talking about is hassle...if it's too much hassle, you move 
on to something else.  That's fine and dandy.  But there are many many 
many people who are using, for example, ClamAV without throwing a fit 
because there's too much in the conf file to set up.


The distinction is you can get frustrated and ask for help, or you can 
get frustrated and bitch about it rather than read the comments in the 
conf file.  There's a lot, it can be tedious to a degree, but you're not 
having to go through source code to figure out how to get it to work.  I 
have found that *overall*, with all the different distros out there, it 
is impossible to come up with a one-size-fits-all solution but the 
config files and guides for installation and configuration on the 
Internet are enough that you need not invest a lifetime to getting this 
one project working.


As I've said in other posts, the problem (as I see it) isn't necessarily 
that he's clueless, or a newbie.  It's the attitude he approached the 
group with, the attitude of I don't know anything and want to stay 
ignorant.  You should make it so I can stay ignorant but get this to 
work.  This is something that can easily ruffle some feathers, 
especially when so many in the group have started in that position but 
learned how to get it to work.  It's also shocking for a sysadmin to 
declare that they want to stay ignorant of the equipment they're 
using...I want to be a rocket scientist, but don't want to take that 
nasty physics stuff...you should make it easier!




I understand completely what you are saying and also agree with it. 
However, regardless of how clueless the rocket scientist wants to remain 
(which, yes, is a poor attitude), IF there is room for improvement or IF 
some part of the process CAN be made easier, shouldnt it?  This has 
nothing to do with the fact that he wants to remain ignorant.  It really 
seems as if everyone read that part and COMPLETELY missed what he was 
really trying to say and instead focused on blasting the guy because of 
his willingness to remain ignorant.





For example, the Hobbitmonitor project is buried deep on my todo list -
There are about 15 post release patches that have to be individually
applied in a certain order, and I have yet to get it right and have it
compile.  So I ignore it, and think If I ever get about 4 hours of
un-interrupted time, I'm going to tackle that beast.  Of course, I
don't have 4 hours, so it just gets deeper on the pile, and I never get
my monitoring server built, and I never am able to contribute back to
the project by helping other clueless newbies...


Then cut it loose.

This seems to be a hard concept...similar problems crop up, and my 
response is something along the lines of, Well, your company isn't 
hiring enough to properly staff your department or manage the staff 
properly...if it were truly important, you'd get the time.  So either 
suffer with the lack of XYZ, or have them hire more people, or move to 
another company that does respect their IT department's role more.  
Well, that's not realistic...  Well, then it sounds like you are 
going with A, suffer the lack of XYZ.  Accept it, quit complaining.


crickets...

I'm not saying every project requires you to cut off fingers and chant 
voodoo incantations to work.  I'm just saying that ClamAV isn't rocket 

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-10 Thread Jim Maul

Dennis Peterson wrote:

Dennis Peterson wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:

somebody else wrote:

Gee, I downloaded this package for clamav and installed it and now 
there are all sorts of other things that still need to be done to get 
it working correctly. Maybe clamav developers could work with the 
package maintainers to make this process go more smoothly?
This is precisely a request for help and for someone, anyone but him, to 
build a product to his specification. Your statement is made illogical 
by your example.


Says who, you?  Sorry, but I really couldn't care less about what you 
have to say.  By the way, it was a SUGGESTION, not precisely a request 
for help as you seem to think.


It was the ? at the end of your statement that gave it away. That forced it
away from a suggestion to an actual beseeching. 



Thank you for your overly literal take on my post.  Is this a question?:

Hi?

Adding a ? to the end of a sentence does not magically turn the sentence 
into a question.  At least not one thats meant to be responded to as 
one.  One can make a suggestion in a questioning manner in such a way 
that they are not actually looking for an answer to the question.


Take this brief conversation for example:

Customer: When im driving and my car reaches 50mph, my steering wheel 
shakes badly.

Mechanic: Well there could be a couple things wrong that would cause that.
Customer: Maybe its my new tires I just had installed?

Would you take this to mean that the customer is actually asking if the 
new tires are at fault?  It makes more sense to take this as the 
customer is SUGGESTING to the mechanic that MAYBE the tires are at fault 
and that it would be a good starting point to begin troubleshooting the 
problem.  Just like the OP was suggesting that maybe the clamav team 
could work with package maintainers to make the process of installing 
clamav from packages more consistent/user friendly.  If the clamav team 
does not like this suggestion, they are free to ignore it and if they do 
like it, then maybe something will be done with it some day.  Either 
way, the OP in no way deserved the insults and harassment he received.



From Webster's

beseech
One entry found for beseech.
Main Entry: beseech
Pronunciation: bi-'sEch, bE-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -seeched or besought /-'sot/; -seeching
Etymology: Middle English besechen, from be- + sechen to seek
transitive verb
1 : to beg for urgently or anxiously
2 : to request earnestly : IMPLORE
intransitive verb : to make supplication
synonym see BEG
- beseechingly /-'sE-chi[ng]-lE/ adverb

I like the synomym offered. 



Thats nice. I like pizza.


Nothing to see here, people, let's get back to work.



I've been working all day, but thanks for the permission.

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Re: [Clamav-users] let's all make a regular domation to ClamAV

2006-11-08 Thread Jim Maul

Sergei Lavrov wrote:


--- Jim Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Per Jessen wrote:

Sergei Lavrov wrote:


Dear ClamAV users,
   
  If you are using ClamAV in your business and

you are happy about it,

  I would like to call upon you to make a regular

donation to the

  ClamAV project. Those folks have spent great

deal of time to provide

  us with timely virus updates and I hate to see

they have to pay out

  of their own pockets for this great project. If

all the users make a

  regular donation of as little as USD$60 a month

(That's only $2 a

  day) to ClamAV, it will make a great

difference. Of course, you can

  give more if you are able to. Don't just be a

freeloader.

I think it is entirely reasonable, but for a

business to make donations,

I think the ClamAV project needs to be able 1)

issue invoices and 2)

accept payment via non-paypal channels.  Maybe
even in EUR. 




Exactly.  I use clamav on our mail gateway at a non
profit 80 bed 
hospital.  we are a tiny little thing and have a
very limited budget as 
is.  $2/day may not sound like much, but when our
whole budget for the 
year is only $5000, there is just no way we can
shell out that kind of 
cash.  Factor in the necessary paperwork for a
corporate environment and 
it really becomes a no-go.

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Then how about just donating $20 ??



Personally? Sure - I have made past personal donations to various 
groups.  I was speaking about a commerical donation which is difficult 
when there is no paperwork submitted.


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Re: [Clamav-users] let's all make a regular domation to ClamAV

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Maul

Per Jessen wrote:

Sergei Lavrov wrote:


Dear ClamAV users,
   
  If you are using ClamAV in your business and you are happy about it,

  I would like to call upon you to make a regular donation to the
  ClamAV project. Those folks have spent great deal of time to provide
  us with timely virus updates and I hate to see they have to pay out
  of their own pockets for this great project. If all the users make a
  regular donation of as little as USD$60 a month (That's only $2 a
  day) to ClamAV, it will make a great difference. Of course, you can
  give more if you are able to. Don't just be a freeloader.


I think it is entirely reasonable, but for a business to make donations,
I think the ClamAV project needs to be able 1) issue invoices and 2)
accept payment via non-paypal channels.  Maybe even in EUR. 






Exactly.  I use clamav on our mail gateway at a non profit 80 bed 
hospital.  we are a tiny little thing and have a very limited budget as 
is.  $2/day may not sound like much, but when our whole budget for the 
year is only $5000, there is just no way we can shell out that kind of 
cash.  Factor in the necessary paperwork for a corporate environment and 
it really becomes a no-go.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam says 0.90RC1.1 is outdated

2006-10-26 Thread Jim Maul

Eric Peabody wrote:
Installed an update of clamav using the only download available from the 
'stable' link on the website, which is 0.90RC1.1.  Am now getting a 
message that says that the installation is 'OUTDATED'.  Should I be 
using a different entry for /DNSDatabaseInfo/?  Here is the output:


# freshclam -v
Current working dir is /usr/local/share/clamav
Max retries == 3
ClamAV update process started at Thu Oct 26 10:51:34 2006
Querying current.cvd.clamav.net
TTL: 900
Software version from DNS: 0.88.5
WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
WARNING: Local version: 0.90RC1.1 Recommended version: 0.88.5



Of course it says its outdated, 0.90RC1.1 != 0.88.5

If you are going to run anything but the current stable version, you 
shouldnt be surprised to see messages like this.  There is no problem 
here, move along..


-Jim

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Re: [Clamav-users] how to decern what to scan?

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Maul

Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote:

I have clam av on a redhat ES3 linux  machine.

I do not see where i can declare what directory it is to scan?



pass it on the command line?


what do I config to make that happen?


your brain?



like if I wanted to scan mnt/data ( where data is a mounted 2nd drive ) or
mnt/data/dog( where dog is a dir on the drive data )


clamscan /mnt/data/dog/ ?



and if I wanted to scan this once a day?



cron?


thanks!



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Re: [Clamav-users] clamav scan crashes server

2006-09-06 Thread Jim Maul

David Woolley wrote:

Hi Dennis,

Have I done something to offend you?



Perhaps asking a question which is easily answered with a command you 
have already run?



I have posted to this list to ask for help with an issue that the developers of
the Linux distro I use have marked as WONTFIX because they identify it to be a
bug in ClamAV.



That may be, but if you would like to submit a bug report, you should 
use https://bugs.clamav.net/ rather than arguing with someone on this list.



You are not obliged to answer, yet you have done so twice with rather cryptic
replies that don't really move the discussion forward.

I am a newbie to the cli of the clam family, but I am not an idiot.



Did someone call you one?  I think i missed that post.


I have previously run clamscan --help and man clamscan.  I haven't found my
answer there.



Yes, you have found the answer.  Do you see an option to limit the 
maxfilesize?  No, because there isnt one.  Question answered.  This is 
exactly what dennis was trying to show you.  Why would you assume there 
must be some option for this when it clearly doesnt mention anything 
about it in the man pages or with --help?  Do you think there is some 
secret option to limit the filesize that is undocumented and no one 
wants to tell you about?


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Re: [Clamav-users] bash script to split mbox file and scan individual messages

2006-08-28 Thread Jim Maul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

jef moskot wrote:


I have a small script I modify to do the job of lifting the offending
messages out of the mbox files.  On a large scale, there's the obvious
problem of modifying files that could be in use or files that the user
could modifying during the stripping process.

I can monitor these fairly easily in my environment, but on a larger
scale, this would certainly be a much nastier problem.

As to the question of whether or not the files have been accessed 
already,

in the general case, I can get to the mailboxes before they are accessed
by a majority of the users.  Certainly a high enough percentage to make
the task worth it.

Again, though, this is due to our environment.



I can see this working in a smaller environment although I still think
it is less then ideal because you have the potential to scan email
that has already been scanned and dubbed clean, especially using mbox.

It seems to me that in a larger environment scanning at the SMTP level
is ideal.

Steve



You seem to be missing the point here.  Nowhere that i saw did anyone 
say that they are scanning the mailboxes INSTEAD of at smtp time.  This 
mailbox scanning is in addition to smtp scanning.  I think anyone could 
agree that additional scanning is beneficial (although not always 
necessary).  Thefore, i dont see the point of your argument.


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Re: [Clamav-users] bash script to split mbox file and scan individual messages

2006-08-28 Thread Jim Maul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:
You seem to be missing the point here.  Nowhere that i saw did anyone 
say that they are scanning the mailboxes INSTEAD of at smtp time.  
This mailbox scanning is in addition to smtp scanning.  I think anyone 
could agree that additional scanning is beneficial (although not 
always necessary).  Thefore, i dont see the point of your argument.


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A quote from a previous email(not from me):


It would be theoretically possible to do all the above on line, but the
chances of dying from a DOS attack would be very high.  So off-line
scanning for malware and spam seems to me to be the best way to go 
unless you have unlimited horsepower.


To me this implies that they want offline scanning instead.  I could be 
wrong

in the interpretation.  It is just my counterpoint that this is not always
the case.



Perhaps, but i read it differently.


But anyway, why would you want to perform additional virus scanning of
mailboxes if it is all scanned upon arrival anyway?  The only reason
I could think is if virus definitions were updated after some malware
had already been accepted and you want to go back and look for it.


Exactly.  And to me, this is a very good reason to do so.  Many people 
also scan incoming messages (during smtp) with multiple virus scanners. 
 Do you also ask the question, Why scan the same message twice with 2 
virus scanners?  The same principal applies here - redundant scanning 
is a good idea.



I don't see this happening in large environments though.



Actually, i would expect this more in large environments.  The more 
email a particular site receives, the greater the chance of missed 
viruses.  Its simply a matter of volume.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Rewrite subject and remove virus questions

2006-08-09 Thread Jim Maul

Alejandro wrote:

Nigel Horne wrote:
Finally I could install my first mail server with 
sendmail+clamav+clamav-milter among others packages. Because I'm a 
newbie I have these two short questions:


1) Does clamav remove virus from mail messages or it just scan and 
warn about virus ???



You can have clamav-milter block the message or scan and warn (see
below). The phrase remove virus from mail messages has no meaning.

 
2) How can I rewrite the subject of infected mails with a **VIRUS** 
banner in order to process them with Procmail ???



Look for the X-Virus-Status header; it isn't what you asked for, but
it may produce the same effect for you.

 

Really thanks !!!

Alejandro



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Ok...with remove I mean disinfectso does Clamav disinfect virus 
from into mail mesagges ???




ClamAV disinfects nothing.

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Re: [Clamav-users] (no subject)

2006-07-26 Thread Jim Maul

Tim Jordan wrote:

Is this really a virus?
 


No, but thats debatable.


HTML.Phishing.Pay-157
 
I think its junk mail but CLAMAV reports it as a virus. 


What else would clamav report it as? Its a virus scanner.  Call it junk 
mail, spam, just plain garbage, etc.  The point is, its potentially 
harmful and as such, clamav detects it.


 
Thank you,
 
Tim


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Re: [Clamav-users] Small number of ClamAV known viruses ?

2006-07-18 Thread Jim Maul

Daniel J McDonald wrote:

On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 17:11 +0200, Zvi Kave wrote:

Why ClamAV has significally small number of known viruses
in comparison to other AV software ?


I don't think that's true.  62 thousand signatures is a healthy amount.
main.cvd is up to date (version: 39, sigs: 58116, f-level: 8, builder:
tkojm)
daily.cvd is up to date (version: 1601, sigs: 3715, f-level: 8, builder:
ccordes)

But if you have samples that clamav is not finding, you are welcome to
submit them.



Not to mention that clamav was designed to be an email virus scanner. 
Including signatures of viruses that are not transported through email 
would be a waste of time and resources for the scope of this project.


If you enjoy the warm cozy feeling of your scanner being able to detect 
10 year old dos viruses or some such thing, then perhaps you should 
choose a different scanner.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Virus Definitions on a Private Network

2006-07-18 Thread Jim Maul

Kathy Rossi wrote:

Greetings,

I am a new CLAMAV user.  Is there any documentation anywhere that descibes
how to load new Virus definitions onto a system (and network) that is not
attached to the internet?




http://www.clamav.net/faq.html#pagestart

#26

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Re: [Clamav-users] Bug with --remove??

2006-06-15 Thread Jim Maul

Daniel T. Staal wrote:

On Thu, June 15, 2006 11:13 am, Kevin Lowe said:

Hi,

I accidentally issued the following command where I mis-spelled remove:

$ ./clamscan --remov /usr/home/projects/virus/

And it actually removed the file. I would expect either an error or the
flag to be ignored. Is this a (minor) bug I shoud report?

ClamAV 0.88.2 running on FreeBSD


Many Unix tools will allow you to abbreviate the flags to the shortest
non-ambiguous string.  I'd consider that normal behavior.



This appears to be the case:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --r
clamscan: option `--r' is ambiguous
ERROR: Unknown option passed.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --re
clamscan: option `--re' is ambiguous
ERROR: Unknown option passed.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --rem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --remo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --remov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --remove

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jmaul]$ clamscan --remhjhj
clamscan: unrecognized option `--remhjhj'
ERROR: Unknown option passed.

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Re: Out of Office AutoReply: [Clamav-users] Question About Quarantine

2006-05-17 Thread Jim Maul

Dennis Peterson wrote:

Wiltshire, Michael wrote:
I am currently out of office and will return on Wednesday 31st May 
2006 .  Please report any urgent matters to the help desk at 4008, or 
the computer room at 6013.




People - please think long and hard before enabling broken 
auto-responders.


Like users of the autoresponder know if it is broken or not.


 If you are on a mail list such as this, think longer

and harder than usual. Then don't do it.



Right.  That seems like an acceptable solution.  Hell, why even have 
autoresponders at all then?




What ever you do, don't put useless internal phone numbers in a message 
that is going to be sent to the world at large unless you want to look 
like an idiot.




This i actually agree with.

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Re: Out of Office AutoReply: [Clamav-users] Question About Quarantine

2006-05-17 Thread Jim Maul

Daniel T. Staal wrote:

On Wed, May 17, 2006 12:12 pm, Jim Maul said:


  If you are on a mail list such as this, think longer
and harder than usual. Then don't do it.

Right.  That seems like an acceptable solution.  Hell, why even have
autoresponders at all then?


I figure autoresponders are relics of the way email worked in the 80's. 
Back before spam, and email viri, and big mailing lists, and

web-accessible email.

These days, being out of the office, or town, or country, is no reason for
you to not be able to get your email, if you felt you needed to.  So, the
only reason you aren't responding is that you don't want to.



Yes, i certainly dont want to check my work email when i am on vacation. 
  Apparently you feel otherwise.




The fact that some email packages still have autoresponders is a
misfeature, in my eyes.



Perhaps we should eliminate answering machines then too?  I mean hell, 
if they dont answer the phone, they must not be home.




Luckily, my spam filter catches them.  That's all they are, anyway.  More
spam.



Spam is unsolicited.  If you send a message to a mailing list and dont 
expect a reply, why even bother sending your message?


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Re: Clam is run or not ?? was:[Re: [Clamav-users] Can't initializethe virus database]

2006-05-15 Thread Jim Maul

Rob MacGregor wrote:

On 5/15/06, Salvatore Basso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


..I do not know like executing freshclam !!, with the previous clamav
version I executed:

#/usr/local/bin/freshclam - d

...but after the installation of the new clamav version I don't have 
nothing

in '/usr/local/bin/' and I don't have nothing also in other directories.


Then you have a problem with the package you're installing.  You need
to contact the person who created it.

Either that or learn how to install from source and read the 
documentation...




Sounds like you didnt install the clamav-server package or whatever it 
happens to be called for your distro.  Seems that maintainers are 
breaking these out into separate rpms now and its causing a lot of 
confusion when people dont realize it.


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Re: [Clamav-users] aucun objet

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Maul

larondedesarts wrote:

What can I do when I've done a scan and this appear.
See the attachement

Please help



umm...what attachment?

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Re: [Clamav-users] Clam-AV Corrupt

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Maul

Fahmi (JN) wrote:

Dear All.

I had problem with Clam-AV, see the error below:
Apr 21 09:52:18 mx1a X-Qmail-Scanner-1.25: 
[mx1a.ha.jetcoms.net114558793049323571] clamscan: corrupt or unknown 
ClamAV scanner error or memory/resource/perms problem - exit status 64


Question:
What does cause this error ... ???



I'd guess memory/resource/permissions, but thats just me.  It could be 
anything.  Softlimit too low? permissions of /var/spool/qmailscan 
incorrect? permissions of clamav related directories not correct?  The 
list goes on and on..you're going to have to track this one down yourself.


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Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan error and requirements

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Maul

roger martinez wrote:
i saw your message and i tried 
So , no succes !


i just modify clamd.conf in TemporaryDirectory
uncomment line and put /usr/local/tmp
clamav continue to work with /tmp 
i don't know what to do 

Best regards 

Roger Martinez 

Did you kill clamd and restart it?

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clamscan command still follow to work with /tmp 
If i modify the 2 clamd.conf (I have sources ) 
to /usr/local/tmp  , it's the same 
the error is the same as highly.
can somebody try to change TemporaryDirectory 
/tmp to /usr/local/tmp 
and before shuttingdown pc  control with ls -a new tmp
diectory please 






About clamd of course it's not in use
then nothing to kill 



clamscan doesnt listen to clamd.conf!

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Re: [Clamav-users] hostnames and aliases reported incorrectly on inux

2006-04-14 Thread Jim Maul

Blackburn, Marvin wrote:

I am running cfg2html-linux 1.14-3 for rhel 3.0 up5

I cloned this system from another and the report is generating the wrong
hostname and alias information.
I've checked /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig/network and
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and all the information seems correct.

In addition hostname and uname report the correct information.
Where/howdoes cfg2html determine this?



u and this has what to do with clamav?

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Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan delete the entire mailbox

2006-02-23 Thread Jim Maul

Jason Haar wrote:

Richard Feldmann wrote:

It might be best to find a scanning system that checks at the smtp level, 
rather than scanning the mailbox of the user manually. This would delete the 
virus as it's being transferred while preserving the message, and you wouldn't 
have the same issue of having the entire mailbox being deleted.
  

That's not standard practice. Most sites not only scan as mail comes in
via SMTP, but they also scan *nightly* the end mailstores to pick up
viruses missed at the SMTP level (e.g. Day-Zero viruses)

Just because a message got delivered doesn't mean it doesn't have a virus...



Then use maildirs rather than mbox format.  It eliminates the problem 
you are having.  And hey, it might even give your machine a performance 
boost..


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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav and qmail-scanner problem?

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Maul

Sam DeForest wrote:

Does this look right?

I have been watching the full header information lately to see if mails are
being scanned with purpose.  Im noticing that (or what seems like) Clamav is
using an older database.  Here is a snippet of the header of one
message..

[EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms
 (clamdscan: 0.88/1235. spamassassin: 3.0.0. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms.  
 Clear:RC:0(220.175.180.80):SA:0(-1.2/5.0):


Now what concerns me is the 0.88/1235
I have ran freshclam, as I do every evening to update with the latest
database.  According to Clamav's website the latest daily.cvd is 1288 and
main.cvd is 35.

1235 is the (starter) daily.cvd that comes with the source package for
ClamAV version 0.88

I have stopped and started clamd manually, and made sure that notify is
uncommented in the freshclam.conf file.  And the clamd.conf file was
configured properly.

So, in my estimation, it looks to be that clamdscan is not using the latest
database release when qmail-scanner is invoked.

Anyone have an idea on this?  If you need to see snippets of log files just
let me know what you need.




run qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z in a cronjob every day or hour or whatever 
you like.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] qscan]# cat qmail-scanner-queue-version.txt
clamdscan: 0.88/1284. spamassassin: 3.1.0.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qscan]# /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qscan]# cat qmail-scanner-queue-version.txt
clamdscan: 0.88/1287. spamassassin: 3.1.0.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qscan]#


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Re: [Clamav-users] minor bug in manager.c

2006-01-20 Thread Jim Maul

Bob Hutchinson wrote:
There is a thread going on in the logwatch ML, pertaining to a bug found in 
the freshclam logging. It would appear to occur when syslog is used rather 
than freshclam's own log in Fedora.


Looking at
clamav-devel/freshclam/manager.c
Line 67
logg(ClamAV update process started at %s, ctime(currtime));

other uses of the logg function in manager.c *do* have a linefeed (\n)




Are you implying that there *should* be a linefeed?  A post earlier this 
morning seems to say that there *shouldnt* be any linefeeds.  Im confused...




Hello,

First time posting to the list here.  Perhaps this should have gone to the
developers list though - not sure.

Some of us over at the logwatch list have noticed that freshclam syslog
entries were not being detected by the logwatch filters.  The cause of this
turned out to be that entries to syslog are being terminated with newlines,
which syslog happily turns into trailing spaces.  For example (output using
vim's :set list command to end of line with a $):

Jan 15 05:01:34 glacier freshclam[30051]: Daemon started. $
Jan 15 05:01:34 glacier freshclam[30051]: ClamAV update process started at
Sun Jan 15 05:01:34 2006 $

Clamav is the only service that seems to include a newline in its syslog
entries. This should probably be stripped before being sent to syslog.

Thanks,
MrC


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Re: [Clamav-users] minor bug in manager.c

2006-01-20 Thread Jim Maul

Bob Hutchinson wrote:

On Friday 20 Jan 2006 18:01, Jim Maul wrote:

Bob Hutchinson wrote:

There is a thread going on in the logwatch ML, pertaining to a bug found
in the freshclam logging. It would appear to occur when syslog is used
rather than freshclam's own log in Fedora.

Looking at
clamav-devel/freshclam/manager.c
Line 67
logg(ClamAV update process started at %s, ctime(currtime));

other uses of the logg function in manager.c *do* have a linefeed (\n)

Are you implying that there *should* be a linefeed?  A post earlier this
morning seems to say that there *shouldnt* be any linefeeds.  Im
confused...


To be honest, so am I.
It would appear that the 'ClamAV update process started at...' line puts a 
trailing space on the line when used in syslog under some version of Fedora.
This has caused a glitch in Logwatch's parsing of freshclam entries in 
maillog.




The linefeed (\n) is automatically inserted by ctime, not by anything in 
the code.  Check man ctime as suggested by Tomasz earlier.



The easiest solution is to make Logwatch tolerant of trailing spaces in this 
instance, as has been discussed on the Logwatch ML.




This would seem to be the better solution as lots of things log to 
syslog and its easier to change logwatch than to make sure everything 
that logs to it either does or doesnt include a trailing space.


If Tomasz Kojm and the other coders feel that there shouldn't be a linefeed at 
this point I'm sure they are right, I'm just trying to establish wether the 
problem lies with Clamav, Fedora's rendition of syslog or Logwatch. As I 
don't use Fedora or freshclam - syslog I can't really test it out myself.


I suspect that the problem is buried somewhere in Fedora, but log parsers 
generally should be tolerant of trailing spaces. They happen.





I agree.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Report infected mail to the user

2006-01-05 Thread Jim Maul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I'm using Exim4, Courier and clamav.
Clamav works fine on my server.
When an infected message is detected, clamav removes it and sends a report
to the sender.
Is it possible to inform the recipient about the rejected mail?




Yes it is possible, but clamav doesnt handle this.  This is done by 
whatever program calls clamav.  Not to mention, why would you want to 
inform the recipient of every virus that was addressed to them but caught?


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Re: [Clamav-users] what is the default port that clamav (clamd) runs on

2005-11-28 Thread Jim Maul

Todd Lyons wrote:

Grant Basson wanted us to know:


Should you ever come back to visit this list you'll learn that everything
you need to know about this can be found in your clamd.conf file. That
leaves for you the challenge of finding that clamd.conf file.

I feel like a twit, but here goes anyway.
How the heck do you run clamd?
Man pages suggest that I just type clamd, I get the following response:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamd
-bash: clamd: command not found




Its also very possible that the package you installed is broken out into 
multiple rpm's and you didnt install the 'server' rpm so your clamd 
binary is missing.




It's not in the path for user grant.  There should be a super user on
your system that will have that binary in the path.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamdscan
ERROR: Clamd is not configured properly.
Does this mean clamd is running?


No.  It probably also means that it is definitely not running.


This is extremely confusing, any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated.
By the way, I'm replying to this message, because clamd.conf man page, said
clamd.conf was in /etc in my case I had to create it




the rpm should create the clamd.conf so if you dont have one, it seems 
to verify what i said above.



Check to make sure you have a clamd binary on your system.  If its not 
there at all, check to make sure the package you installed doesnt have a 
server rpm which was missed during installation.


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Re: [Clamav-users] clamdscan doens't recognize virus

2005-09-22 Thread Jim Maul

Marco Berizzi wrote:

AAAHH!!!
Find! ;-)

Here is the option:



ArchiveMaxFileSize 500k



Commenting this option has solved the problem.
I really don't undestand.




Umm..i wouldnt comment it.  You might want to just consider raising the 
limit.  Its there for a reason.


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Re: [Clamav-users] handle_user: unable to find user

2005-09-01 Thread Jim Maul

Fast Johnny wrote:
I keep seeing these messages in my mail.info: 
Aug 31 10:46:40 localhost spamd[19280]: connection from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] at port
60582 
Aug 31 10:46:40 localhost spamd[19280]: handle_user: unable to find user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'! 
Aug 31 10:46:40 localhost spamd[19280]: checking message (unknown) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8. 
Aug 31 10:46:44 localhost spamd[19280]: identified spam (6.2/5.0) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8 in 3.8
seconds, 3646 bytes. 


There is a vpopmail user named: bob (bob is a fake name I used as an example)
Yet, bob does get the email. I'm wondering what is causing this error. I search
this mail list and can't seem to find anything.

Thanks,
Eric




Umm..this is clamav, not spamassassin ML.

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Re: [Clamav-users] viruses database is not updating

2005-08-01 Thread Jim Maul

Lingeshwar Pothani wrote:

Dear All,
 We have installed and configured Clamscan in 2004. when i run 
 /usr/local/bin/freshclam --quiet -l /var/log/clam-update.log 
 it gives the following error in above log file

 ERROR: md5 sum not found on remote server
ERROR: Can't get viruses.md5 sum from
clamav.elektrapro.comhttp://clamav.elektrapro.com
 Can you explain why this error message is appearing in log and give us the 
remedy for this.

 Thanks  Regards
 Lingesh
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Why?  Cause youre probably still running the version of clamav that you 
installed in 2004.


Remedy?  Upgrade.

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Re: [Clamav-users] uncompressed zip size of Zero

2005-07-27 Thread Jim Maul

q# wrote:

On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:46:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there currently a work around to avoid this situation? Is anyone just
rejecting messages with a zip that has a zip header that says the file
size is Zero when uncompressed?



Could you be more specific, I don't understand what you mean. You want
reject zip files with empty files inside, yes? Like this:

$ unzip -vl /tmp/empty.zip
Archive:  /tmp/empty.zip
 Length   MethodSize  Ratio   Date   Time   CRC-32Name
  --  --- -         --
   0  Stored0   0%  07-27-05 19:58    empty.txt
  ---  ------
   00   0%1 file



I believe the OP is referring to a new technique being used by virus 
writers where the email has a zip attachment which APPEARS to be 0 bytes 
(in the zip header) but when uncompressed, the file is in fact not 0 
bytes. There was a recent article about this somewhere but i am unable 
to find the link ATM.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Wrong version info in header after upgrade

2005-07-26 Thread Jim Maul

Thomas Booms wrote:

Hello all,

I've just upgraded from 0.86.1 to 0.86.2. The test tells me this:

freshclam -v
Current working dir is /usr/local/share/clamav
Max retries == 3
ClamAV update process started at Tue Jul 26 13:17:22 2005
Querying current.cvd.clamav.net
TTL: 900
Software version from DNS: 0.86.2
main.cvd version from DNS: 33
main.cvd is up to date (version: 33, sigs: 36102, f-level: 5, builder: 
tkojm)

daily.cvd version from DNS: 993
daily.cvd is up to date (version: 993, sigs: 1040, f-level: 5, builder: 
arnaud)

Freeing option list...done

And in the latest emails i got I see this:

Received: (qmail 13171 invoked by uid 567); 26 Jul 2005 11:13:53 -
Received: from 83.195.210.114 by host1 (envelope-from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 502) with qmail-scanner-1.25

(clamdscan: 0.86.1/993. spamassassin: 3.0.4.
Clear:RC:0(83.195.210.114):SA:0(1.5/5.0):.
Processed in 0.788787 secs); 26 Jul 2005 11:13:53 -

I've expected to see clamdscan: 0.86.2/993.

Is there something wrong?

Thomas



Yes, you forgot to run qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z

This has nothing to do with clamav btw.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Wrong version info in header after upgrade

2005-07-26 Thread Jim Maul

Steven Spence wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:



And in the latest emails i got I see this:

Received: (qmail 13171 invoked by uid 567); 26 Jul 2005 11:13:53 -
Received: from 83.195.210.114 by host1 (envelope-from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 502) with qmail-scanner-1.25

(clamdscan: 0.86.1/993. spamassassin: 3.0.4.
Clear:RC:0(83.195.210.114):SA:0(1.5/5.0):.
Processed in 0.788787 secs); 26 Jul 2005 11:13:53 -

I've expected to see clamdscan: 0.86.2/993.

Is there something wrong?

Thomas



Yes, you forgot to run qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z

This has nothing to do with clamav btw.



Or you can just edit /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-scanner-queue-version.txt
with the correct version. 



While this is true, qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z also does some quick 
cleanup which is also a good idea.  FWIW, http://qmail-scanner.sf.net 
states that this could/should be run daily from cron or some such thing.



I am not quite sure why qmail-scanner just
doesn't pull the version from the clamd binary instead of a text file.




I never really understood this either..

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Re: [Clamav-users] Wrong version info in header after upgrade

2005-07-26 Thread Jim Maul

Steven Spence wrote:

Diego d'Ambra wrote:


Steven Spence wrote:



Or you can just edit 
/var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-scanner-queue-version.txt

with the correct version.  I am not quite sure why qmail-scanner just
doesn't pull the version from the clamd binary instead of a text file.



Performance?



Qmail-scanner probably shouldn't have been written in perl if performance
was a major factor.  I would love to see a C version of qmail-scanner.




Simscan has been the closest thing i've seen to a C version of 
qmail-scanner.


http://www.inter7.com/?page=simscan

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Re: [Clamav-users] Libclamav and zip files

2005-07-22 Thread Jim Maul

Eric Scopinho wrote:

But if I do that, some side effects could happen like:

- I'll need free space to store the file.
- The infected packets may get in while I store the next packets to scan.
- I have to download the whole file before send it to the end-user.

I'm trying to develop some sort of firewall+anti-virus using an embedded 
Linux with solid-state board, so space would be a problem.
I saw one solution like that from Sonicwall's guys, but I don't know how 
they do that. I've hearded that Fortinet has it's own network-based 
anti-virus solution too (as an appliance).
I was wondering how this guys handle the zip problem, since their 
hardware just have 128 of RAM and 16 of ROM. :-(


I have a sonicwall pro 4060 which indeed does malware detection.  I was 
curious how it could do this considering the data is passing through 
packet by packet.  According to sonicwall, they have signatures 
developed which match viruses and malware on a packet level.  Now this 
doesnt really make any sense to me because if a virus spans 20 packets 
or so, how can the device know this?  Maybe the sonicwall tech support 
guy was talking out his ass..i dunno.  But yes, there are devices that 
do this sort of thing.  They cost $3,000+ though and i have no idea how 
they work.


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Re: [Clamav-users] virusDB update issue

2005-07-21 Thread Jim Maul

Dawson wrote:


I upgraded from an earlier version of clamav due
to outdated db and had problems.  The only one I
will mention at the moment is that the freshclam.log
keeps being overwritten by root and rendering it
unable to be opened.

I change the ownership to clamav (which is running
clamav on the box) and before long the problem
reoccurs.

How do I fix this?
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You tell logrotate(?) to use clamav user instead of root.

There is indication of what os you are running but on rh9, its 
/etc/logrotate.d/freshclam

and maybe also /etc/logrotate.d/clamd

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Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with zip password

2005-07-19 Thread Jim Maul

Marcos Dutra wrote:

Hi guys,

I use actually clamav 0.86.1 version in my e-mail server, but I have problems 
with zip files protected by password.

I made a test with clamdscan -v *.zip and the result is:

clamdscan -v *.zip
/home/ricardo/Cpa.zip: Zip module failure ERROR
/home/ricardo/Dbf.zip: Zip module failure ERROR

I posted the zip file in this url:

http://200.161.4.170/zip

Thanks for advice.

Marcos Dutra



Your probably going to get a ton of replies that ask which version of 
zlib you are running.  Might want to post that now.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav + Exim on FreeBSD

2005-07-07 Thread Jim Maul

Odhiambo Washington wrote:

* Christopher X. Candreva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20050707 17:10]: wrote:


On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Trog wrote:



What I wrote and what you wrote are different, hence different results.


You are correct. You wrote:



http://www.gzip.org/


However, The last modified date of the www.gzip.org page is July 27, 2003. 
There is no mention of a new version 'yesterday' (July 6 2005).


At the bottom, there is a link to http://www.gzip.org/zlib/ for zlib . Given 
that page, I would think that would be the place to look for updates to 
zlib.


Which brings us back to -- if a new version of zlib was released yesterday, 
where is it ?



And, incidently, www.info-zip.org says that the only official site for zlib 
is now www.zlib.net :


http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/zlib/

Of course that page also says 1.2.2 was release in Feb 2005, while the other 
sites it was released in October of last year, which also matches the file 
dates on the source I have.


What a mess.



You are right Chris. I am with you on this one ;)




I ran into this EXACT same problem a couple months back.

A google search for zlib shows http://www.zlib.net
A google search for libz shows http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/zlib/ 
which states that the ONLY current site for libz or zlib or whatever the 
hell its called is http://www.zlib.net


Going to www.zlib.net shows 1.2.2 as current.

There is a ton of misinformation and redirection going on with regards 
to this issue.  Everything seems to point back to 1.2.2 and www.zlib.net 
.  However its been stated here that this is not the correct site or the 
most current version.  No wonder there is mass confusion.  I gave up 
after 5 or 6 circles.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav 0.86 for REDHAT 9

2005-07-05 Thread Jim Maul

Eric Rostetter wrote:

Quoting Scott Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



No, unfortunately I don't know of any site that has the 86 rpm packages.
Sorry about that.  Is there some particular reason you can't use 0.85.1 for
now?

Scott



crash-hat always gets the newest releases out asap for FC1, which run
fine on RH 9.  My yum url for crash-hat is:

http://crash.fce.vutbr.cz/crash-hat/1/

Yes, technically he is FC1, but they work fine on RHL 9 also.



I second that one.  I've been using the crash-hat rpms for clamav for 
many releases now.  They work just great on RH9 and CentOS4.  Even if 
there are dependency issues, you can easily rebuild the .src.rpm and 
install away.  Really is a breeze..


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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav 0.86 for REDHAT 9

2005-07-05 Thread Jim Maul

Damian Mantelli (AUTORED) wrote:

Thanks Eric and Jim for your help, this site seems very good but they don´t
have the DB file, and Clamd file :(
And I don´t know how make the rpm file since the SRC.RPM file   :(
I really appreciate all your help.
best regards
Damian




Im not sure what you mean by DB file and Clamd file.

If you would like to try building the rpm from the source rpm, download 
http://crash.fce.vutbr.cz/crash-hat/1/clamav/clamav-0.86.1-1.src.rpm and 
then run:


rpmbuild --rebuild -without milter clamav-0.86.1-1.src.rpm

NOTE: if you are using sendmail w/milter, omit the -without milter part.

This will build rpms which you can then install normally.

However, have you tried just downloading 
http://crash.fce.vutbr.cz/crash-hat/1/clamav/clamav-0.86.1-1.i386.rpm 
and installing that?  What is the problem really?


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Re: [Clamav-users] Why no actual data in mail header?

2005-07-01 Thread Jim Maul
 Jim Maul schrieb:

 Thomas Booms wrote:

 Thanks, this works. I didnt understood the text passage above before.
 My next question is about the option --on-update-execute= in
 freshclam: is it possible to call qmail-scanner-queue.pl -z with ||
 after reload or on which way could I run both executes? My goal is to
 start qmail-scanner on that time point when I get the newest signatures.
 I dont want to run it via cron if possible.



You can put this in the on-update-execute and in fact many people already
do this.  There is no harm in running this multiple times a day.

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Re: [Clamav-users] clamav updates - freshclam versus recompiling

2005-06-30 Thread Jim Maul

Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
Why do we have to recompile clamav all the time to get updates?  I 
thought that's what freshclam was for.




Because something is broken?  I've never had to to do that.

We were running clamav 0.86 with freshclam, and Worm.Mytob.FM was 
making it past the filter.  Compiling 0.86.1 fixed things, but I 
don't really understand why.



I dont know if this is the case for this particular virus, but sometimes 
older versions of clam can not detect some of the newer variants of 
viruses regardless of what version of the definitions you have.



  We generally like to test new
releases of software on a test server for several days before 
upgrading production machines.




Good idea.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 99% CPU load during boot, server freezing

2005-06-14 Thread Jim Maul

Emanuel Nacht wrote:

Okay, I think I found the evil-doer, and it's, gladly, not related to clamav.

It appears there was an attack running towards one virtual host, which
made the load skyrocket of the server - giving clamav only so much cpu
time. It's still interesting that clamav showed up in top with 99%
cpu:

PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
806 clamav25   0 16560  16m  692 R 96.7  1.6   0:04.05 ls


I will keep an eye on this, and post a follow-up if this problem persists.



Why would clamav ever run the 'ls' command?  Something doesnt seem right..

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Re: [Clamav-users] Question about clamd commands

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Maul

Robert Hogan wrote:



I don't think it's possible to telnet to a unix socket from the command 
line...





Actually, i believe that with the telnet that comes with freebsd, this 
is entirely possible.  However ive never used any bsd so im really just 
going on what someone else said. I imagine its available for other 
systems as well but i never tried..


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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamscan slow on large attachements

2005-05-31 Thread Jim Maul

Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

Jan Alphenaar wrote:


open. The problem is now that attachements 4Mb are taking ages to scan.
The CPU is now busy for 100% running clamscan.

Because the users connect with Outlook Express this application will now
say to the user that the mailserver is not responding (since the smtp
session is still open) and asks the user what to do, wait or stop ?

With this in mind I have the following questions:

1) Can I configure clamscan so it will operate faster ?
 


clamdscan should be faster than clamscan.



This is true.


2) Can I configure qmail-scanner to disconnect the smtp session and 
starts

clamav in the background (probably a qmail-scanner question) ?
 


I don't think any MTA is able to do that.




I believe qmail does this by default.  It does not keep the smtp session 
open during scanning.  There are patches that allow it to keep the 
session open..i imagine you are using one of these.  Perhaps you want to 
remove them?




A workaround is to tell your MTA/wrapper to scan small files only (1MB).
Configuring Exim is easy, but I don't know how to configure 
qmail-scanner to do that.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamscan slow on large attachements

2005-05-31 Thread Jim Maul

Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:

2) Can I configure qmail-scanner to disconnect the smtp session and 
starts

clamav in the background (probably a qmail-scanner question) ?
 


I don't think any MTA is able to do that.






I believe qmail does this by default.  It does not keep the smtp 
session open during scanning.  There are patches that allow it to keep 
the session open..i imagine you are using one of these.  Perhaps you 
want to remove them?


Aah ... you mean the accept-first, 
scan-and-always-generate-bounces-later method?


Not exactly.

Somehow I was imagining something like 
accept-mail-but-don't-generate-bounces-when-virus-found method.




Qmail-scanner can do this.  I send no bounces/notifications back to the 
'sender'.


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Re: [Clamav-users] Bug

2005-05-24 Thread Jim Maul

Dennis Peterson wrote:
Dave Shariff Yadallee - System Administrator a.k.a. The Root of the 
Problem said:



Looks like since Clamav 0.84, clamav-milter is crashing every time
fleshclam get new definitions.  I am running clamav on BSD/OS 4.3.1



It's probably trying to tell you your From: address is too long, eh.

dp


I had actually typed up Maybe its because your from name is too long 
but decided not to send the message at the end.  Strange ;)


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Re: [Clamav-users] option -V reports wrong database

2005-05-19 Thread Jim Maul
didier.georgieff wrote:
On 18 May 2005 09:53:28 +0200 Tomasz Kojm wrote:

I just noticed that clamav  freshclam 0.85.1 seems to report wrong
informations about the virus database

There's a bug in your configuration then...

== OK, I can imagine that, but unfortunatelly it seems that's this is
not the point.
/var/lib/clamav is setup in my clamav.conf  freshclam.conf.

are you really using clamav.conf??  how about clamd.conf?

== freshclam also gets the right updates/
== This is a proof that the database USED (886) is not the same than
REPORTED (507)
# clamscan --debug -v
LibClamAV debug: Loading databases from /var/lib/clamav
LibClamAV debug: Loading /var/lib/clamav/main.cvd
#freshclam --debug --no-dns -v
Current working dir is /var/lib/clamav
Max retries == 3
ClamAV update process started at Thu May 19 16:15:27 2005
Connecting via proxy
Connected to db.fr.clamav.net (IP: 10.202.240.108).
Trying to retrieve http://db.fr.clamav.net/main.cvd
If-Modified-Since: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:00:18 GMT
Reading CVD header (main.cvd): OK (IMS)
main.cvd is up to date (version: 31, sigs: 33079, f-level: 4, builder:
tkojm)
Connecting via proxy
Connected to db.fr.clamav.net (IP: 10.202.240.108).
Trying to retrieve http://db.fr.clamav.net/daily.cvd
If-Modified-Since: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:00:02 GMT
Reading CVD header (daily.cvd): OK (IMS)
daily.cvd is up to date (version: 886, sigs: 1438, f-level: 5, builder:
trog)
Freeing option list...done
#freshclam -V
ClamAV 0.85.1/507/Mon Sep 27 12:53:21 2004
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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Sergey wrote:
Hello Dennis,
Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 5:11:43 PM, you wrote:
DP Sergey said:
Hello Andrzej,
Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 3:52:31 PM, you wrote:
AZ Sergey wrote:
AZ [...]
-rw-r-  1 rootclamav  1265 May 17 15:40 clamd.log
AZ   ^^
AZ How clamd (in realy user clamav.clamav) can write to this file??
AZ [...]
i've no idea, but 0.84 does.
i've just found a solution. if clamd makes clamd.log it's useless to
change the permissions. so before running clamd and so on i made
touch clamd.log and than set all the permissions that is needed.
now it works.

DP We have a winner! Now if you put that in your startup script and log
DP rotation tool you'll have the job finished.
why is that? if i'll restart clamd it won't going to change the
permissions of clamd.log. and by the way i don't need any log rotation
because my clamd.log doesn't eveê become big or something like that.
Maybe thats because clamav couldnt write to it ;)  Regardless, this is a 
workaround not a solution.  The logfile should not be created with root 
owner to begin with.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:


DP We have a winner! Now if you put that in your startup script and log
DP rotation tool you'll have the job finished.
why is that? if i'll restart clamd it won't going to change the
permissions of clamd.log. and by the way i don't need any log rotation
because my clamd.log doesn't eveê become big or something like that.
Maybe thats because clamav couldnt write to it ;)  Regardless, this is a
workaround not a solution.  The logfile should not be created with root
owner to begin with.
-Jim

That would be a good trick if the directory it is found in is owned ro by
root. I suppose it could be created by root then chowned to clam_user, but
that too presumes much. To make it entirely turnkey the process should see
if the user-selected log directory is readable by clam_user first, then it
should see if the file already exists (or if a directory of the same name
exists), and if it is writable by clam_user. If everything isn't perfect
it could fail with a warning to the console. Now what to do about your log
rotator? How should clam predict a misconfigured rotator? That seems like
a lot of hand holding.
Call me old fashioned, but this is something I like to deal with myself.
There's still a roll for the thinking admin.

No, dont get me wrong here, im not saying clamav should predict 
anything.  Nor should it have to deal with misconfigured software.  This 
is of course left up to the admin.  However, it seems that it *creates* 
the logfile owned by root.  And that..well..just isnt right.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:
Dennis Peterson wrote:

That would be a good trick if the directory it is found in is owned ro
by
root. I suppose it could be created by root then chowned to clam_user,
but
that too presumes much. To make it entirely turnkey the process should
see
if the user-selected log directory is readable by clam_user first, then
it
should see if the file already exists (or if a directory of the same
name
exists), and if it is writable by clam_user. If everything isn't perfect
it could fail with a warning to the console. Now what to do about your
log
rotator? How should clam predict a misconfigured rotator? That seems
like
a lot of hand holding.
Call me old fashioned, but this is something I like to deal with myself.
There's still a roll for the thinking admin.

No, dont get me wrong here, im not saying clamav should predict
anything.  Nor should it have to deal with misconfigured software.  This
is of course left up to the admin.  However, it seems that it *creates*
the logfile owned by root.  And that..well..just isnt right.

Maybe I should have said doughnut :-) I meant role. I use syslog for the
log files here because I want them available to a common remote logger
server for processing. Ownership is not a problem, and it's one less issue
the deal with. My underlying point is that a take-charge admin would have
no problem dealing with this bug.

Indeed.  I was merely trying to clarify the exact issue that other 
admins were having.  I am not experiencing this problem myself. 
Mainly because im still using 0.84 but thats another story ;)

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Matt Fretwell wrote:
Jim Maul wrote:

Call me old fashioned, but this is something I like to deal with
myself. There's still a roll for the thinking admin.
 

No, dont get me wrong here, im not saying clamav should predict 
anything.  Nor should it have to deal with misconfigured software.  This
is of course left up to the admin.  However, it seems that it *creates* 
the logfile owned by root.  And that..well..just isnt right.

 Just to test, as an ordinary user, run:
touch /var/log/test.log
 Now why does it create the logfile as root?
While i get your point, it is irrelevant because it should not log in 
/var/log/ directly.  It should log in /var/log/clamav/

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Matt Fretwell wrote:
Jim Maul wrote:

touch /var/log/test.log
Now why does it create the logfile as root?

While i get your point, it is irrelevant because it should not log in 
/var/log/ directly.  It should log in /var/log/clamav/

 The main point of my point, (I know that sounds weird), is that an admin
who relies upon any piece of software to correctly create and set
permissions on the logfile is asking for trouble. Clam is not alone in
this. This is not a bug in Clam, it is poor admin technique on the part of
the admin. Your logs are vital for a smoothly running system. The admin
should take full control of their logs.

And the main point of my point (again with the weirdness) is that yes 
this should be handled by the admin, however it is indeed a (small) bug. 
 While the situation SHOULD never come up, clamav should not attempt to 
create a log file which it can never write to.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Matt Fretwell wrote:
Jim Maul wrote:

The main point of my point, (I know that sounds weird), is that an
admin who relies upon any piece of software to correctly create and
set permissions on the logfile is asking for trouble. Clam is not
alone in this. This is not a bug in Clam, it is poor admin technique
on the part of the admin. Your logs are vital for a smoothly running
system. The admin should take full control of their logs.

And the main point of my point (again with the weirdness) is that yes 
this should be handled by the admin, however it is indeed a (small) bug.

 While the situation SHOULD never come up, clamav should not attempt to
create a log file which it can never write to.

 I think we have reached stalemate on this one :)

Agreed. ;)
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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:
Matt Fretwell wrote:
Jim Maul wrote:

Call me old fashioned, but this is something I like to deal with
myself. There's still a roll for the thinking admin.


No, dont get me wrong here, im not saying clamav should predict
anything.  Nor should it have to deal with misconfigured software.  This
is of course left up to the admin.  However, it seems that it *creates*
the logfile owned by root.  And that..well..just isnt right.

Just to test, as an ordinary user, run:
touch /var/log/test.log
Now why does it create the logfile as root?
While i get your point, it is irrelevant because it should not log in
/var/log/ directly.  It should log in /var/log/clamav/

It will log where ever the clamd.conf file says it will log - permissions
permitting. There is no concept of should.

To the program itself, no.  If you tell it to log to / it will, however, 
it SHOULDNT.  See what im saying?  To say that clamav *has* to create 
the log file as root because only root can write to /var/log/ is 
irrelevant to the issue.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:

Matt Fretwell wrote:

Jim Maul wrote:


Call me old fashioned, but this is something I like to deal with
myself. There's still a roll for the thinking admin.


No, dont get me wrong here, im not saying clamav should predict
anything.  Nor should it have to deal with misconfigured software.
This
is of course left up to the admin.  However, it seems that it
*creates*
the logfile owned by root.  And that..well..just isnt right.

Just to test, as an ordinary user, run:
touch /var/log/test.log
Now why does it create the logfile as root?
While i get your point, it is irrelevant because it should not log in
/var/log/ directly.  It should log in /var/log/clamav/

It will log where ever the clamd.conf file says it will log -
permissions
permitting. There is no concept of should.

To the program itself, no.  If you tell it to log to / it will, however,
it SHOULDNT.  See what im saying?  To say that clamav *has* to create
the log file as root because only root can write to /var/log/ is
irrelevant to the issue.

While you're out there making up rules can you think of any reason clamd
needs to be started as user root if all you do is scan incoming email? I
can't.

Um, where am i making up rules?  Thanks for the accusation though.
And no, i cant think of why you would want to or have to run clamd as 
root.  I run clamd as user qscand, not root so im not sure what your 
implying here.

Thanks again,
-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:
Dennis Peterson wrote:

To the program itself, no.  If you tell it to log to / it will, however,
it SHOULDNT.  See what im saying?  To say that clamav *has* to create
the log file as root because only root can write to /var/log/ is
irrelevant to the issue.

While you're out there making up rules can you think of any reason clamd
needs to be started as user root if all you do is scan incoming email? I
can't.

Um, where am i making up rules?  Thanks for the accusation though.
And no, i cant think of why you would want to or have to run clamd as
root.  I run clamd as user qscand, not root so im not sure what your
implying here.
Thanks again,
-Jim

You said it shouldn't log to / and there's no reason it shouldn't if that
is where one wishes it to log. There's lots of reasons why that would be a
bad idea, but it's an admin decision, not an application issue.
Do you start clamd as root or as qscand? My point is there is, or at least
can be no requirement that one start it as root and was trying to
demonstrate additional administrative latitude for the reading public that
isn't already put to sleep by this thread :-) If you su to qscand (in your
case) it should still start and run just fine. It was just an injected
factoid for thought. Many people just light things off as root and go on
their way. It is frequently safer and managerially more convenient to
write root scripts that su to the run-as user first, then fire off the
proc (/usr/bin/su - qscand -c /usr/local/bin/blah_blah_blah). Imagine how
it simplifies file ownerhips.
dp ... did I mention I'm anal?

Let me attempt to clear up any confusion (and hopefully put this thread 
to rest) by saying that I personally am not having any problems with 
clamav and i am not experiencing the logging issue that actually started 
this thread.  I do and always have run clamav as qscand.  My clamav logs 
are owned by qscand and everything works great.  I simply joined the 
conversation somewhere in the middle because something caught my 
attention.  The fact that clamav creates its log file as root if it 
doesnt already exist.  Why create it at all if you cant write to it? 
Its just silly.

Im anal as well which is why i stated that one should not tell anything 
to log to / or /var/log directly for that matter.  I like to have all 
programs logging in their own directories under /var/log/.  clamav is 
/var/log/clamav/ apache is /var/log/apache/ and so on.  That was the 
basis for my SHOULDNT statement above.

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Re: [Clamav-users] 0.85 0.81.1 tha same troubles with milter

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote:
Jim Maul said:

SNIP
That doesn't happen if you start it as the run-as user. It happens if you
start it as root. That is why I say this bug is not necessarily a bug,
but an administrative issue.
This was the key piece to the puzzle that i was missing.  From the posts 
 of the people who are actually having this problem, it was not 
immediately obvious that this ONLY happens when you run clamd as root. 
I was under the impression that the log file was created as root 
regardless of the user statement in clamd.conf.  My apologies.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Lars Gierling/B-W ist außer Haus. [Scan Mail hat diese Mail auf Viren überprüft]

2005-05-12 Thread Jim Maul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will be out of the office starting  12.05.2005 and will not return until
23.05.2005.
Ich werde Ihre Nachricht nach meiner Rückkehr beantworten. In dringenden
Fällen kontaktieren Sie bitte meine Kollegen telefonisch oder per Mail.

Great, so we get to see this crap for another 11 days.
-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Maybe a virus Sober.P

2005-05-05 Thread Jim Maul
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
On May 5, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Matt Fretwell wrote:
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
This is actually two separate scenarios.

 That was Daniel's fault instigated by his being vague :)

Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he 
would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I 
am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of 
you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have 
counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.   
Bonus points if you identify what it's from :-p


Princess Bride

to which in my head I dreamed a few moments about what it would be like
to be a true BOFH on our network and have the power...political
power...to get away with locking people out of their favorite web sites
despite outranking me in the org chart and what it would be like to not
have to deal with the politics of XYZ not being able to get their
content completely rendered because of some glitch of interaction
between the proxy and scanner and the website they're trying to get
forms from.  Ahhh to dream a little dream!

 Tell the accountants they can save money by locking down a network. You
would be amazed how quickly things happen :) Plus, they get all the
stick from irate users|management :)

Nope, doesn't work that way.  User complaints and convenience are 
balanced against us.
Over here at our hospital we got numerous requests for the ceo's 
secretary to have full internet access.  Eventually we had to give it to 
her as we were told that he job function required it.  To this day i see 
nothing but jcpenny.com and macys.com in the logs from her terminal. 
Seems she really likes buying shoes...

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Not accepting input?

2005-05-05 Thread Jim Maul
Mike Nolan wrote:
This question was asked, and advised upon, less than four hours ago.
Check the archives.

Matt, I don't think that thread got to me, I certainly don't recall 
having seeing it, and I've been watching the list closely because this
problem has been bugging me for several days.

Moreover, it appears from reviewing the archives that the ultimate answer 
was 'this is a multi-threading error that we haven't found yet'.  

That's not much of a solution. :-(
He never said there was a solution, simply advised upon.  Indeed it 
appears that there is no solution as of yet.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Maybe a virus Sober.P

2005-05-04 Thread Jim Maul
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
On May 4, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Nigel Horne wrote:
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 16:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.  If you have received this
communication in error, please notify me immediately by telephone or fax

But you haven't given your telephone and fax number, so how can you 
expect
anyone to do that?

I've always wondered...why do people put confidentiality notices saying 
if this is not meant for you, erase it, yadda yadda... at the END of 
the message, so you already know what you're not supposed to know?

I mean, they do know that these disclaimers haven't been tested in 
court, but if they were...they'd probably not hold water?

So far the disclaimers only seem to add cruft for people to resend if 
they top post their messages, and make the message a little harder to 
parse. :-)


But they do more than that...they make the higher ups feel 
better...actually, i think thats the only purpose they serve.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] CLAMD+SIMSCAN+RAR V3 SUPPORT

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Maul
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:55:15 +0100 in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Trog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 18:18 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:
Pretty sure that clamd from 0.84 supports RAR v3 archive scanning.
Only CVS currently supports RAR3 scanning.

Oh OK, I thought the new RAR code had made it into the released version.
Sorry!

Honestly, i thought so too..the release announcement was sort of misleading.
- from release announcement -
release 0.84 is available for download.
This version improves detection of JPEG (MS04-028) based exploits,
introduces support for TNEF files and new detection mechanisms. Various
bugfixes (including problems with scanning of digest mail files) and
improvements have been made.
** We encourage users to help testing the development versions, now with
** ** rewritten RAR code and support for 3.0 archives!   **
**  http://www.clamav.net/snapshot/  **
The ChangeLog includes:
- end release snippet -
That little bit about encouraging users to help testing the development 
versions is kinda stuck in the middle of the announcement there and 
initially i thought the rewritten RAR code and support for 3.0 
archives was referring to the release, but after a second reading, it 
appears they are only referring to the development snapshots.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Zip module failures and Malformed hexstrings and0viruses, Oh my!

2005-04-29 Thread Jim Maul
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:09:16 -0500 in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott
Henderson @ Bunzl Phoenix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't see how to upgrade...
Which OS are you using? It may be possible to get a packaged 
version and install that, if it is in a different directory 
then you can get the configuration sorted out before letting 
it loose on your mail.
Brian Morrison
Red Hat 7.3  (kernel =  2.4.20-29.7.progeny.8)

Have a look at the binary packages pages on www.clamav.net, there are
two packagers there Petr Kristof and DAG. Both do RPMs that can be
easily rebuilt on RedHat systems, although I'll admit I haven't used RH
7.3 in a while now.
Im running Petr's clamav package on multiple rh9 systems with great 
success.  I'd give those a shot.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav log file not logging viruses

2005-04-29 Thread Jim Maul
Jose Luis Hime wrote:
If I use the option LogSyslog, then the viruses are logged into the file
/var/log/maillog correctly. Thanks for your tip, it opened my eyes to that.
The problem is that I want a specific logfile to be used, not through the
Linux syslog function. So I commented out the LogSyslog option, forcing
clamd to use its internal log function (logging at its clamd.log). This is
not working.

You dont want to use syslog at all or you just want it in its own file? 
 I am using the linux syslog utility but have clamav going to its own 
file.  Perhaps that would work for you as well?

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Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan

2005-04-26 Thread Jim Maul
Dwayne Hottinger wrote:
Does clamscan automatically delete virus infected files if I run clamscan from
the server prompt?  For example, If I run clamscan /home/* to scan all home
files will it delete the viruses found or just list them?

It just lists them.
-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] LibClamAV Error: Can't create temporary file

2005-04-20 Thread Jim Maul
José Miguel López Coronado wrote:
Hello everybody.
I have been suffering the following problem in my clamd.log:
LibClamAV Error: Can't create temporary file  
/tmp/clamav-d0a0c6a5466f36fc/: Argumento inválido
LibClamAV Error: fileblobDestroy: file not saved: report to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This have happended since I changed to 0.83 clamav version and only in 
one of the three servers where I have it installed. The three of them 
are running RedHat 9.0.

Any idea why is this happening?
Thanks in advance.
Chemi.
I believe i saw on this list that 0.84RCx fixes this problem.  Check the 
archives.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Can't parse configuration file

2005-04-19 Thread Jim Maul
Mike Partyka wrote:
Hello, i only just started working on ClamAV version 0.83 this morning,
with a mail server product based on HP's Open Mail, running on a SuSE
Ent. Server 9.
I am a little confused about the two configuration
files /etc/freshclam.conf and /etc/clamav.conf, they seem to overlap and
contain many of the same parameters.
/etc/clamav.conf is here:
SNIP
Um..clamav 0.83 uses clamd.conf, not clamav.conf.  Unless you also have 
a clamd.conf i'd imagine that this is the cause of the unable to parse 
config file error.


/etc/freshclam.conf file is here:

SNIP some more
Im not sure what overlap you are referring to.  I mean they both have a 
logfile option and such, but clamd and freshclam both log, so this 
really isnt overlap, its necessary unless you want them to log to the 
same location.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Can't parse configuration file

2005-04-19 Thread Jim Maul
Mike Partyka wrote:
Hello Jim,
Thanks for the response.

Um..clamav 0.83 uses clamd.conf, not clamav.conf.
This also confused me, when i looked at the man page it indicated that
since 0.80 the config file name was changed to clamd.conf, but this does
not seem to be the problem as i sym-linked the existing /etc/clamav.conf
to /etc/clamd.conf and the same error occurred again. This is on SuSE
Ent. Server 9 and i don't know why but i think they (SuSE/Novell)
compiled ClamAV and hardcoded the config file to /etc/clamav.conf. I'm
not sure how to verify this but i don't know how else to explain it.
The overlap was my imagination, i thought i was seeing many of the same
options but i see what you mean, they are specific to each service.

Well, its possible that its a suse specific thing, but as i never used 
suse, i really dont know.  You could try to install from source and see 
if you have any more luck that way.  You could also try to get more 
information from a suse support list if you like.

Also, what are the permissions on the clamd.conf file?  Is the user 
running clamav able to open this file?

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Re: 0.83 potentially not catching some NetSky/SomeFool virus

2005-04-18 Thread Jim Maul
René Berber wrote:
Tomasz Kojm wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:10:35 -0500
René Berber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

does not enable detecting them.  Why? because you have to uncomment
DisableDefaultScanOptions to enable or disable the other options; even
if you have DetectBrokenExecutables uncommented the default value of
disabled is in effect...

This is wrong.

From version 0.83 clamd.conf man page:
   DisableDefaultScanOptions
  By  default  clamd uses scan options recommended by lib-
  clamav. This option  disables  recommended  options  and
  allows  you to enable selected options. DO NOT ENABLE IT
  unless you know what you are doing.
  Default: disabled
   ScanPE PE stands for Portable Executable - it's  an  executable
  file format used in all 32-bit versions of Windows oper-
  ating systems. This option allows ClamAV  to  perform  a
  deeper  analysis  of  executable  files  and  it's  also
  required for decompression of popular executable packers
  such as UPX.
  Default: enabled
   DetectBrokenExecutables
  With  this  option  clamd will try to detect broken exe-
  cutables and mark them as Broken.Executable.
  Default: disabled
What is wrong?  To enable detecting broken executables you have to change two
options in the clamd.conf file (not only one as shown in the posted options),
one is uncommenting DisableDefaultScanOptions, the second is uncommenting
DetectBrokenExecutables.
What is wrong?  Your explanation is wrong, thats what.  You only have to 
uncomment DetectBrokenExecutables to enable the option.  The default is 
disabled.  To enable it, uncomment it.

You are thinking about options that are by default enabled but commented 
out.  To disable these options, this is where you must enable 
DisableDefaultScanOptions.  Your thinking is correct, but youre applying 
it to the wrong circumstance.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Can phishing be considered one kind of spam ?

2005-04-15 Thread Jim Maul
Samuel Benzaquen wrote:
Sweet... here are my selections
[x] viruses
[x] phishing
[x] spam
[x] stupid jokes
[x] urban myths
[x] (company) will pay you $ for every person you forward this to
[x] cute puppies
[x] sob stories
...
[x] completly useless messages from useful mailing lists
Oh, no! This message would have been rejected =P!
-SamSam
No, clamav doesnt reject anything ;)
-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Flagging with ClamAV - Not Quarantine

2005-04-01 Thread Jim Maul
Jason Williard wrote:
Is it possible to flag mail as infected without actually quarantining the
mail using ClamAV?  Preferably, I would like to be able to add a header
value, such as X-Virus-Status: Yes(or No).  This could then be used on the
client side or by other custom filtering to decide what to do with the
message.
 


Clamav doesnt quarantine anything.  You would have to make this change 
in whatever program you have calling clamav itself.

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] eicar within tnef

2005-03-25 Thread Jim Maul
Nigel Horne wrote:
I have added decoding for TNEF (winmail.dat) to the CVS version.
Well damn, that didnt take very long ;)  Keep up the great work guys.

-Nigel

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] eicar within tnef

2005-03-22 Thread Jim Maul
Nigel Horne wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 21:26, jef moskot wrote:
Is anyone having trouble detecting Test #14 (the TNEF test) from
http://www.webmail.us/testvirus ?

TNEF is on my list of things to do. To be honest it had slipped my
memory, and I have spare time at the moment so I'll have a look.

Jeffrey Moskot

-Nigel Horne

Qmail-scanner (as well as others im sure) support the decoding of tnef 
so this is not an issue.  Just relaying some info...

-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] freshclam and milter --internal notification

2005-02-22 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote:
[6th try to get this sent out.]
And i've seen this messages 6 times already.

I'm using clamav-milter in the default mode (no --external flag).  As 
such, I
see no need to run clamd.  But freshclam doesn't like this very much:

freshclam[26975]: ERROR: Clamd was NOT notified: No socket specified in
/usr/local/encap/clamav-0.83/etc/clamd.conf
Now, clamav-milter will still see the updates, right?  Since it checks the
database for changes?  Or should I be doing something differently here, 
like
setting the socket in clamd.conf to the milter.sock (rather than the 
clamd.sock
it would normally have pointed to)?  If I'm not doing something wrong here,
then perhaps this freshclam message should be toned down a bit from 
ERROR to
Warning, or have a flag to disable it?

Damian Menscher
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Re: [Clamav-users] Disabling ScanArchive ?

2005-02-22 Thread Jim Maul
Daniel J McDonald wrote:
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 09:57 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 09:39 AM 2/22/2005, you wrote:
Due to license issues with the original RAR3.0 unpacker one of our
developers is working on a new version written from scratch. It's
planned for 0.90.

secondly, is there a way to employ unrar checking if one buys an unrar 
license and installs unrar - i couldn't quite see a hook to do that in 
clamd.conf.

amavis-new does rar unpacking using an external binary, then passes the
unpacked pieces to clamav.

As does qmail-scanner and i imagine a handful of other packages.
-Jim
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Re: [Clamav-users] Broken zlib version?

2005-02-16 Thread Jim Maul
Tarjei Knapstad wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 15:11, Trog wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 14:57 +0100, Tarjei Knapstad wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:49, Dennis Peterson wrote:

snip
A simple search in the archive for zlib 1.2.2 turns this up:
http://lurker.clamav.net/message/20041103.143255.97fa22ec.en.html
It contains the references you are asking for, a link to the *current*
zlib homepage which has 1.2.2 all over it, and the front page then
states this:

Thanks Trog, that clears the haze. 

I thought the list archives were down (the archives link is borked if
you follow the link attached to the bottom of each post on the list).
Googling for zlib took me to the old site and does not show zlib.net in
the first 100 results. (Googling for zlib 1.2.2 does not show either
in the first 100). Oh well :-S

Exactly, this is retarded.  I had the same problem.  Google for zlib 
returns http://www.gzip.org/zlib/ which shows 1.2.1 as current and has 
no mention of another website (namely zlib.net).  It also shows:

Canonical URL: http://www.gzip.org/zlib/
Mirror sites:
http://www.doc.cs.univ-paris8.fr/mirrors/zlib/ (France)
Ok fine..so now i hear zlib.net is the current site.
So over to www.zlib.net which says 1.2.2 is current. Aha! there it is. 
But on zlib.net there is no mention anywhere that www.gzip.org/zlib/ 
should not be used anymore and zlib.net even says:

Canonical URL: http://www.gzip.org/zlib/
Mirror sites:
http://www.zlib.net/ (US)
Which makes no sense at all.  I realize this is not a clamav issue, im 
just trying to point out the source of confusion WRT zlib and clamav.

-Jim
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