Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Exactly. Not only was Sapi support problematic, but in the next version of the engine I'd have to drop Sapi support anyway. I'm currently, slowly but surely, developing a newer cross platform version of the Genesis Engine written in C++. Since the newer Genesis Engine is intended to be cross platform, Mac and Linux compatible, I have to cut out any Windows specific dependancies like Sapi, DirectX, etc. I'm not sure how it will turn out using SDL, FMOD, etc but we will see.Bottom line, I'll have to use prerecorded speech files for the cross platform games. Bryan Peterson wrote: I'd leave it as is as well. The only way you could even come close to pleasing more of these people is one you've already tried and it didn't work out very well. I refer of course to your attempt to run the game via Sapi itself so people could choose any of the voices installed on their own computers. I'm sure we both remember how well that worked out what with all the problems people seemed to be having with their Sapi installs. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, Yes, ATT Crystal does come with Text Aloud, I have it, but it isn't one of my favorite voices. Personally I think Acapela Heather and Acapela Lucy sound better. Pranav Lal wrote: How about using Crystal? I believe it comes with text aloud. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Hmmm...If I remember correctly when the uac prompt comes up all you have to do is press alt+a to tel it to run the Window Eyes setup under Vista. I was also quite surprised by that prompt when I purchased and installed Vista for the first time. Anyway, so far Windows 7 has been a much smoother and better end user experience. Bryan Peterson wrote: I remember I actually had to get help when I installed Window-Eyes because of the UAC prompt preventing the talking install from running right away. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Phil, Interesting. I actually got my copies of Ryan and Heather for $15 each for a special promotional. I also got Lucy for less than $35 as well. Looks like I made out like a bandit. Lol! Yeah, my copies are locked to Text Aloud, but that isn't too bad really. I can still use them for converting audio books to audio, create voice files for games, which was primarily why I got them in the first place. I generally use Dectalk Access or Eloquence for day to day computer operations anyway. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi, You can buy Heather for $35 which works with only the next up software. from the web site, Acapela High Quality Text To Speech Voices are now available for TextAloud. Available in a variety of languages, these high quality voices average under 200mb in disk space, are 22khz, and they Sound great. NOTE: These voices are for use with TextAloud and other NextUp.com products only. If you need open, SAPI versions of these voices which will work with any TTS application, please purchase Acapela InfoVox at $190 for Language Group voices. US Group Includes Ryan, Heather, Nelly, and Kenny. UK Group Includes Lucy, Peter, and Heather. http://www.nextup.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Yeah, it does. Either I didn't see it way back when or I just assumed the voices would work with everything and didn't bother checking the specifics about that version. Either way it doesn't much matter now since i own them, and am fairly happy with them. I don't realy have the cash to purchase the Infovox versions that are fully Sapi 5 compliant. Bryan Peterson wrote: It actually now says right there on the site that they're to be used only with Text Aloud. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Crystal might be better in a sci-fi game but not in a game like MOTA as far as I'm concerned. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi, Yes, ATT Crystal does come with Text Aloud, I have it, but it isn't one of my favorite voices. Personally I think Acapela Heather and Acapela Lucy sound better. Pranav Lal wrote: How about using Crystal? I believe it comes with text aloud. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Well at least you can use them for creating voice files in games. That might be primarily why I'd use them also but I'd still like the option of using them in Window-Eyes as well. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Yeah, it does. Either I didn't see it way back when or I just assumed the voices would work with everything and didn't bother checking the specifics about that version. Either way it doesn't much matter now since i own them, and am fairly happy with them. I don't realy have the cash to purchase the Infovox versions that are fully Sapi 5 compliant. Bryan Peterson wrote: It actually now says right there on the site that they're to be used only with Text Aloud. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Yeah, Crystal works out well for Sci-Fi games. Back when I began working on STFC 1.0 I initially used ATT Crystal as the voice of the Enterprise's computer. Later I switched voices until I ended up using Scansoft Karen for version 1.2. Anyway, to make a long story short I've had several requests to go back to using ATT Crystal for STFC 2.0, and I may just do that. She was fine for that particular game, but not necessarily great for every game. Bryan Peterson wrote: Crystal might be better in a sci-fi game but not in a game like MOTA as far as I'm concerned. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Sure. That's understandable. Heather and Lucy are pretty nice voices, but they do make several mistakes when speaking words. Right off the top of my head I know Heather can't say enterprise worth a darn. That's a very common word, plus the most popular fictional spaceship in history, and it can't say it correctly. I know several other Star Trek words like Klingon, phaser, and so on it doesn't come close to saying correctly. It drives me crazy, because Dectalk Access, Eloquence, and a few other TTS voices I have don't have a problem with any of those words. So even if I had the Infovox version of those voices I'm pretty sure they would drive me nuts after a while do to the mistakes. Then again all TTS voices do make mistakes, because the English language is notorious for breaking its own language rules. For example, most of the time most TTS voices can't determine when a word uses a soft c or a hard c sound. So when you get a word like Celtic it says it with a soft c sound like Seltic instead of a hard c sound like Keltic. I often find myself making ample use of the Window Eyes and Jaws exception dictionaries correcting common mistakes like that. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well at least you can use them for creating voice files in games. That might be primarily why I'd use them also but I'd still like the option of using them in Window-Eyes as well. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Well so far I haven't noticed any problems in MOTA. The speach rate is a little fast but I tend to prefer it that way. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Sure. That's understandable. Heather and Lucy are pretty nice voices, but they do make several mistakes when speaking words. Right off the top of my head I know Heather can't say enterprise worth a darn. That's a very common word, plus the most popular fictional spaceship in history, and it can't say it correctly. I know several other Star Trek words like Klingon, phaser, and so on it doesn't come close to saying correctly. It drives me crazy, because Dectalk Access, Eloquence, and a few other TTS voices I have don't have a problem with any of those words. So even if I had the Infovox version of those voices I'm pretty sure they would drive me nuts after a while do to the mistakes. Then again all TTS voices do make mistakes, because the English language is notorious for breaking its own language rules. For example, most of the time most TTS voices can't determine when a word uses a soft c or a hard c sound. So when you get a word like Celtic it says it with a soft c sound like Seltic instead of a hard c sound like Keltic. I often find myself making ample use of the Window Eyes and Jaws exception dictionaries correcting common mistakes like that. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well at least you can use them for creating voice files in games. That might be primarily why I'd use them also but I'd still like the option of using them in Window-Eyes as well. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Well, the reason Heather speaks so well in the game is I messed with some of the words a while until it spoke them correctly. It wasn't many words but there were a few like centaur I had to work with spelling it different ways, until Heather finally said it more or less correctly. As for it speaking a little fast obviously that is just how I recorded it. I felt it was too slow in previous versions and spead up the voice rate some. Now, of course, I get some complaints that some people think it is too fast. Personally, I like it as is, and have no intentions of changing it now. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well so far I haven't noticed any problems in MOTA. The speach rate is a little fast but I tend to prefer it that way. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
I'd leave it as is as well. The only way you could even come close to pleasing more of these people is one you've already tried and it didn't work out very well. I refer of course to your attempt to run the game via Sapi itself so people could choose any of the voices installed on their own computers. I'm sure we both remember how well that worked out what with all the problems people seemed to be having with their Sapi installs. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Well, the reason Heather speaks so well in the game is I messed with some of the words a while until it spoke them correctly. It wasn't many words but there were a few like centaur I had to work with spelling it different ways, until Heather finally said it more or less correctly. As for it speaking a little fast obviously that is just how I recorded it. I felt it was too slow in previous versions and spead up the voice rate some. Now, of course, I get some complaints that some people think it is too fast. Personally, I like it as is, and have no intentions of changing it now. Bryan Peterson wrote: Well so far I haven't noticed any problems in MOTA. The speach rate is a little fast but I tend to prefer it that way. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, That depends on which version you buy. There is a version available from Nextup.com that only works with Text Aloud. Then, there is another version, sold through somebody else, that will work with Window Eyes, Jaws, NVDA, etc as well as Text Aloud. The version you want is the one that says it is fully Sapi 5 compliant or something like that. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. I like the Heather voice. I might actually look into getting her myself, though I don't know if the license agreement permits using them as screen reader voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, True. However, I think the Loquendo voices are majorly over rated. They are ok voices, do have some improvements as far as being able to convey emotions, etc but their demos are just that demos. I've actually had a chanse to try some of the Loquendo voices, and I didn't think they were that hot. Better than many Sapi voices, true, but not worth the insane pricing you have to pay for them. Licensing them for games is even worse. Bryan Peterson wrote: At least you did get a human for the Angela voice. I don't think any Sapi voice exists, exccept possibly the hugely expensive Loquendo voices, that can convincingly produce a scream as the character falls off a cliff, into a lava pit or whatnot, or a cry of pain as she takes a hit from an Amazon's arrow or skeleton's sword. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
I found d-speech better than TA. TExt aloud is more for... hmm, reading. if you want to rapidly make sounds I prefer d-speech, but if thomas bought the TA only version of heather then he's stuck with it. btw if you ask me the UK voice Rachel, also from acapela has more intonation than heather and 'd go with her, but that's just me. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi, you might try DSpeech from dimio.altervista.org as apose to text aloud, maybe it'll serve you better. it's free. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Shaun, In this case it isn't a soundcard issue. I've noticed that the Heather voice has a tendancy to pop and click sometimes when saving certain words an frazes with Text Aloud. I've tried to cut down on the pops and clicks as best I can, but a few still got through. If there was a better option as far as a voice goes I would use it. During one of the private betas I used Scansoft Karen, but I got complaints that people couldn't understand the speech do to the Australian accent. Since I don't really have a really high quality American English voice besides Heather I'm sort of stuck with it. shaun everiss wrote: could be a sound card or driver issue I have had cards that click. its the reason I have not updated my realtech hd because later drivers click loads more although I suspect the card clicks. I had a ac97 that clicked loads till I upgraded the drivers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091022-0, 10/22/2009 Tested on: 10/22/2009 9:10:05 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
I'll have to look into getting that at some point. It's a little more expensive but it seems worth it. Only problem is the site doesn't seem very accessible. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, That depends on which version you buy. There is a version available from Nextup.com that only works with Text Aloud. Then, there is another version, sold through somebody else, that will work with Window Eyes, Jaws, NVDA, etc as well as Text Aloud. The version you want is the one that says it is fully Sapi 5 compliant or something like that. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. I like the Heather voice. I might actually look into getting her myself, though I don't know if the license agreement permits using them as screen reader voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, Unfortunately, I got my copy of Heather as part of a special bundle for Text Aloud. As a result my copy is locked specifically to Text Aloud and won't work with DSpeech, Window Eyes, Jaws, etc. Had I known that in advance I would have purchased the other version out there that works with everything, but Nextup.com didn't make it known that their copy of Heather is a proprietary copy. Eventually, I will buy the Sapi 5 compliant version, but I just don't have the finances to do so right now. Valiant8086 wrote: Hi, you might try DSpeech from dimio.altervista.org as apose to text aloud, maybe it'll serve you better. it's free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Exactly. I use Mobile Speak Smartphone with Loquendo Susan on my cell phone and I can definitely see where you're coming from. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, True. However, I think the Loquendo voices are majorly over rated. They are ok voices, do have some improvements as far as being able to convey emotions, etc but their demos are just that demos. I've actually had a chanse to try some of the Loquendo voices, and I didn't think they were that hot. Better than many Sapi voices, true, but not worth the insane pricing you have to pay for them. Licensing them for games is even worse. Bryan Peterson wrote: At least you did get a human for the Angela voice. I don't think any Sapi voice exists, exccept possibly the hugely expensive Loquendo voices, that can convincingly produce a scream as the character falls off a cliff, into a lava pit or whatnot, or a cry of pain as she takes a hit from an Amazon's arrow or skeleton's sword. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, As far as I am concerned the best text to speech voices out there are those that come with Mac OS Snow Leopard. Some of those voices are as human sounding as a voice can come, and still be text to speech. Even better you can crank them up very fast, and they are as fast and smooth as using Eloquence. Windows screen readers still doesn't have anything that comes close to the voices available for Mac users. Give Apple a couple of years and I think we might see a lot more blind users switching to Mac instead of Windows for exactly accessibility features like that. Although, as much as I hate to admit it, I'm very impressed with Windows 7. I've already started the order process to upgrade all of my computers to Windows 7 in the next couple of months or so. I definitely will be updating all of my Vista systems first as I think Windows Vista was a total flop. It is too slow, extremely bloated, and its version of user account control sucks just to name a few of my major gripes. Then, I do have one older XP system here, mainly for games, which might get updated to Windows 7 as Windows XP is really beginning to show its age. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. I use Mobile Speak Smartphone with Loquendo Susan on my cell phone and I can definitely see where you're coming from. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, Yep. That's my problem alright. I got Heather as part of a promotional not knowing that my version is only for Text Aloud. Had I known differently I would have purchased the Sapi 5 version that works with Window Eyes, Jaws, DSpeech, whatever. As for Rachel that voice rocks. I've heard demos of it, I like it, but I can't really afford to get it right now. Cheers! peter Mahach wrote: I found d-speech better than TA. TExt aloud is more for... hmm, reading. if you want to rapidly make sounds I prefer d-speech, but if thomas bought the TA only version of heather then he's stuck with it. btw if you ask me the UK voice Rachel, also from acapela has more intonation than heather and 'd go with her, but that's just me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi. I think the one from nextup.com works with everybody though I'm not positive about that. Have you tried to use the one from nextup.com with other software? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, That depends on which version you buy. There is a version available from Nextup.com that only works with Text Aloud. Then, there is another version, sold through somebody else, that will work with Window Eyes, Jaws, NVDA, etc as well as Text Aloud. The version you want is the one that says it is fully Sapi 5 compliant or something like that. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. I like the Heather voice. I might actually look into getting her myself, though I don't know if the license agreement permits using them as screen reader voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091022-0, 10/22/2009 Tested on: 10/23/2009 12:35:57 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
God I hate Vista. If I had the finances I'd put Windows 7 on my laptop just to get away from this User Account Control crap or at least, this version of it. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi, As far as I am concerned the best text to speech voices out there are those that come with Mac OS Snow Leopard. Some of those voices are as human sounding as a voice can come, and still be text to speech. Even better you can crank them up very fast, and they are as fast and smooth as using Eloquence. Windows screen readers still doesn't have anything that comes close to the voices available for Mac users. Give Apple a couple of years and I think we might see a lot more blind users switching to Mac instead of Windows for exactly accessibility features like that. Although, as much as I hate to admit it, I'm very impressed with Windows 7. I've already started the order process to upgrade all of my computers to Windows 7 in the next couple of months or so. I definitely will be updating all of my Vista systems first as I think Windows Vista was a total flop. It is too slow, extremely bloated, and its version of user account control sucks just to name a few of my major gripes. Then, I do have one older XP system here, mainly for games, which might get updated to Windows 7 as Windows XP is really beginning to show its age. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. I use Mobile Speak Smartphone with Loquendo Susan on my cell phone and I can definitely see where you're coming from. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
It actually now says right there on the site that they're to be used only with Text Aloud. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi. I think the one from nextup.com works with everybody though I'm not positive about that. Have you tried to use the one from nextup.com with other software? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, That depends on which version you buy. There is a version available from Nextup.com that only works with Text Aloud. Then, there is another version, sold through somebody else, that will work with Window Eyes, Jaws, NVDA, etc as well as Text Aloud. The version you want is the one that says it is fully Sapi 5 compliant or something like that. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. I like the Heather voice. I might actually look into getting her myself, though I don't know if the license agreement permits using them as screen reader voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091022-0, 10/22/2009 Tested on: 10/23/2009 12:35:57 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, You can buy Heather for $35 which works with only the next up software. from the web site, Acapela High Quality Text To Speech Voices are now available for TextAloud. Available in a variety of languages, these high quality voices average under 200mb in disk space, are 22khz, and they Sound great. NOTE: These voices are for use with TextAloud and other NextUp.com products only. If you need open, SAPI versions of these voices which will work with any TTS application, please purchase Acapela InfoVox at $190 for Language Group voices. US Group Includes Ryan, Heather, Nelly, and Kenny. UK Group Includes Lucy, Peter, and Heather. http://www.nextup.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, No, the version sold by Nextup.com is specifically built for Text Aloud, Weather Aloud, and their other programs. It doesn't work with anything but Nextup's products. I've tried Window Eyes, Jaws, and other programs and it doesn't work. To get the one that works with screen readers and stuff you have to get the version sold by the Acapela Group or the version that comes with the Infovox software. HTH Valiant8086 wrote: Hi. I think the one from nextup.com works with everybody though I'm not positive about that. Have you tried to use the one from nextup.com with other software? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Can't say I blame you. The version of user account control that comes with Windows 7 is much more user friendly. Not only is it more customizable, but it doesn't prompt you every five seconds to do common tasks. It only prompts you for possible threatening security risks which is good. The one with Vista is just down right paranoid. It prompts you for everything. Even common tasks like copying an icon from one start menu folder to another. Not only is that not threatening, not a major security risk, but it gets in the way of common day to day tasks with no way to customize what it does and does not flag as a security violation. This more than anything else drives me crazy when it comes to Vista. Bryan Peterson wrote: God I hate Vista. If I had the finances I'd put Windows 7 on my laptop just to get away from this User Account Control crap or at least, this version of it. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
I remember I actually had to get help when I installed Window-Eyes because of the UAC prompt preventing the talking install from running right away. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Can't say I blame you. The version of user account control that comes with Windows 7 is much more user friendly. Not only is it more customizable, but it doesn't prompt you every five seconds to do common tasks. It only prompts you for possible threatening security risks which is good. The one with Vista is just down right paranoid. It prompts you for everything. Even common tasks like copying an icon from one start menu folder to another. Not only is that not threatening, not a major security risk, but it gets in the way of common day to day tasks with no way to customize what it does and does not flag as a security violation. This more than anything else drives me crazy when it comes to Vista. Bryan Peterson wrote: God I hate Vista. If I had the finances I'd put Windows 7 on my laptop just to get away from this User Account Control crap or at least, this version of it. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
How about using Crystal? I believe it comes with text aloud. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Valiant8086 Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi, you might try DSpeech from dimio.altervista.org as apose to text aloud, maybe it'll serve you better. it's free. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Shaun, In this case it isn't a soundcard issue. I've noticed that the Heather voice has a tendancy to pop and click sometimes when saving certain words an frazes with Text Aloud. I've tried to cut down on the pops and clicks as best I can, but a few still got through. If there was a better option as far as a voice goes I would use it. During one of the private betas I used Scansoft Karen, but I got complaints that people couldn't understand the speech do to the Australian accent. Since I don't really have a really high quality American English voice besides Heather I'm sort of stuck with it. shaun everiss wrote: could be a sound card or driver issue I have had cards that click. its the reason I have not updated my realtech hd because later drivers click loads more although I suspect the card clicks. I had a ac97 that clicked loads till I upgraded the drivers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091022-0, 10/22/2009 Tested on: 10/22/2009 9:10:05 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Shaun, Well, I could use a British voice like Scansoft Emily or ATT Audry, but again it is probably not appropriate given the fact some people would prefer an American English voice. Microsoft Anna is ok, but there are better female American voices out there. As for ESpeak that is definitely out of the question. I'd sooner use Eloquence before ESpeak for games. If I could find my keys for my Cepstral voices i could try one of those. shaun everiss wrote: hmmm. I come from new zealand so its the other way round for me. However don't dispair, have you tried a brittish voice? I am using orphius1 which is well it says uk but it sounds more new zealand than anything else so maybe thats why. You always could try espeak although it sounds like a can still its ok for what it is. I suppoe you could try anna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
well there is always eloquence samples though that would make your stuff bigger. At 07:16 a.m. 23/10/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, I could use a British voice like Scansoft Emily or ATT Audry, but again it is probably not appropriate given the fact some people would prefer an American English voice. Microsoft Anna is ok, but there are better female American voices out there. As for ESpeak that is definitely out of the question. I'd sooner use Eloquence before ESpeak for games. If I could find my keys for my Cepstral voices i could try one of those. shaun everiss wrote: hmmm. I come from new zealand so its the other way round for me. However don't dispair, have you tried a brittish voice? I am using orphius1 which is well it says uk but it sounds more new zealand than anything else so maybe thats why. You always could try espeak although it sounds like a can still its ok for what it is. I suppoe you could try anna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
I say stick with Heather. Granted my first preference would have been Neospeach Kate but Heather is definitely a very high quality voice. I'd say just leave it the way it is. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Shaun, Well, I could use a British voice like Scansoft Emily or ATT Audry, but again it is probably not appropriate given the fact some people would prefer an American English voice. Microsoft Anna is ok, but there are better female American voices out there. As for ESpeak that is definitely out of the question. I'd sooner use Eloquence before ESpeak for games. If I could find my keys for my Cepstral voices i could try one of those. shaun everiss wrote: hmmm. I come from new zealand so its the other way round for me. However don't dispair, have you tried a brittish voice? I am using orphius1 which is well it says uk but it sounds more new zealand than anything else so maybe thats why. You always could try espeak although it sounds like a can still its ok for what it is. I suppoe you could try anna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
No. Eloquence is totally wrong for a game like this. The only reason, and I mean absolutely the ONLY reason that I even use Eloquence in Window-Eyes is because of its fast response time. I wouldn't use it at all otherwise since I hate the voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 well there is always eloquence samples though that would make your stuff bigger. At 07:16 a.m. 23/10/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, I could use a British voice like Scansoft Emily or ATT Audry, but again it is probably not appropriate given the fact some people would prefer an American English voice. Microsoft Anna is ok, but there are better female American voices out there. As for ESpeak that is definitely out of the question. I'd sooner use Eloquence before ESpeak for games. If I could find my keys for my Cepstral voices i could try one of those. shaun everiss wrote: hmmm. I come from new zealand so its the other way round for me. However don't dispair, have you tried a brittish voice? I am using orphius1 which is well it says uk but it sounds more new zealand than anything else so maybe thats why. You always could try espeak although it sounds like a can still its ok for what it is. I suppoe you could try anna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Shaun, How do you figure that? A wav file saying play game at the same sample rate should be roughly the same size regardless if it is Heather, Eloquence, ATT Crystal, etc. I don't really get why you think Eloquence would make the game bigger. shaun everiss wrote: well there is always eloquence samples though that would make your stuff bigger. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
It might not make the game bigger but it would definitely detract from the atmosphere as far as I'm concerned. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Shaun, How do you figure that? A wav file saying play game at the same sample rate should be roughly the same size regardless if it is Heather, Eloquence, ATT Crystal, etc. I don't really get why you think Eloquence would make the game bigger. shaun everiss wrote: well there is always eloquence samples though that would make your stuff bigger. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Smile. I have no plans on changing voices at this point. If I didn't like Heather I wouldn't have used her for the game. It is a decent voice, and I can't please everyone when it comes to TTS voices anyway. For example, I know several people that love Eloquence. As for me I am no fan of the voice. I use it for programming, work mostly, but can't stand it for anything else.I especially can't stand it reading books from Book Share or books I've scanned myself. Ug! Bryan Peterson wrote: I say stick with Heather. Granted my first preference would have been Neospeach Kate but Heather is definitely a very high quality voice. I'd say just leave it the way it is. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Agreed. Eloquence is fine for general day to day screen reader tasks, but using it in games or having it read books is terrible. For one thing it totally kills the ambiance for me. Tomb Hunter is a game series with a very strong female character roll. Therefore it follows the game's narration would be a female as well. Preferably a human sounding one if possible. Using a robotic voice like Eloquence, ESpeak, or a male character voice would simply have the wrong ambiance and feel. Bryan Peterson wrote: No. Eloquence is totally wrong for a game like this. The only reason, and I mean absolutely the ONLY reason that I even use Eloquence in Window-Eyes is because of its fast response time. I wouldn't use it at all otherwise since I hate the voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Exactly. And that's one thing my fiance and I intend to keep in the forefront if and when we work together on games. As little synthe speach as possible and when it's required, as high quality as we can swing. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Agreed. Eloquence is fine for general day to day screen reader tasks, but using it in games or having it read books is terrible. For one thing it totally kills the ambiance for me. Tomb Hunter is a game series with a very strong female character roll. Therefore it follows the game's narration would be a female as well. Preferably a human sounding one if possible. Using a robotic voice like Eloquence, ESpeak, or a male character voice would simply have the wrong ambiance and feel. Bryan Peterson wrote: No. Eloquence is totally wrong for a game like this. The only reason, and I mean absolutely the ONLY reason that I even use Eloquence in Window-Eyes is because of its fast response time. I wouldn't use it at all otherwise since I hate the voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Thomas, I think people are confused when you use the Heather synthesized SAPI voice to record what is said in the game. To get a human to sound as consistent in rate, volume and lack of background noise would take weeks if not months of sound studio work instead of the few minutes to have the SAPI voice recorded to sound files. Plenty of people asked where I got the voices in my games so much that I finally made a list of them in the instructions. I think Heather was voted by a game magazine as the most popular voice. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Yeah. Unfortunately it is not always possible to come by actual human speech for games though. For one thing getting the person to record, rerecord, his/her voice over and over again to get it right is very tiring work. Then, there is lots of editing required to make it as smooth and seamless as possible. That's why I chose a voice like Heather which seams to be a happy medium. Not too synthetic, and human enough to work well in a game. Plus much less editing and work involved. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. And that's one thing my fiance and I intend to keep in the forefront if and when we work together on games. As little synthe speach as possible and when it's required, as high quality as we can swing. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Phil, Yes, that was my experience as well. Last year, when I was beginning Mysteries of the Ancients, I originally was going to have Cara Quinn cast in the roll of Angela Carter as well as the games narrator voice. She definitely had a good voice for the roll, was fairly decent voice talent, but we discovered using her for the entire game like that was a logistical nightmare. There were several problems. First, when we started out she didn't have her microphone setup properly so we did some test runs until we got the volume right, got it so it sounded good, and got her system set up correctly so what she recorded sounded the way I wanted it for the game. Then, she got a head cold or something and she couldn't do any voice work for me until she got over that. That caused a major delay just because of something that was out of our control, and that set me behind somewhat. Finally, when we got everything squared away, she was over the head cold, her computer was set up, and we were ready to start work her modeling schedule picked up. Since her day job obviously takes priority over the game we both decided it just was not worth the hastle. So I settled on Heather instead. As far as editing goes what files I did get from Cara took quite a bit of editing to get the way I wanted them. I had to trim them, take out any background microphone noise, etc. It was a serious pain in the butt. I realised as you did that using a Sapi voice is much much much easier to work with. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, I think people are confused when you use the Heather synthesized SAPI voice to record what is said in the game. To get a human to sound as consistent in rate, volume and lack of background noise would take weeks if not months of sound studio work instead of the few minutes to have the SAPI voice recorded to sound files. Plenty of people asked where I got the voices in my games so much that I finally made a list of them in the instructions. I think Heather was voted by a game magazine as the most popular voice. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Exactly. I like the Heather voice. I might actually look into getting her myself, though I don't know if the license agreement permits using them as screen reader voices. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Yeah. Unfortunately it is not always possible to come by actual human speech for games though. For one thing getting the person to record, rerecord, his/her voice over and over again to get it right is very tiring work. Then, there is lots of editing required to make it as smooth and seamless as possible. That's why I chose a voice like Heather which seams to be a happy medium. Not too synthetic, and human enough to work well in a game. Plus much less editing and work involved. Bryan Peterson wrote: Exactly. And that's one thing my fiance and I intend to keep in the forefront if and when we work together on games. As little synthe speach as possible and when it's required, as high quality as we can swing. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
At least you did get a human for the Angela voice. I don't think any Sapi voice exists, exccept possibly the hugely expensive Loquendo voices, that can convincingly produce a scream as the character falls off a cliff, into a lava pit or whatnot, or a cry of pain as she takes a hit from an Amazon's arrow or skeleton's sword. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Phil, Yes, that was my experience as well. Last year, when I was beginning Mysteries of the Ancients, I originally was going to have Cara Quinn cast in the roll of Angela Carter as well as the games narrator voice. She definitely had a good voice for the roll, was fairly decent voice talent, but we discovered using her for the entire game like that was a logistical nightmare. There were several problems. First, when we started out she didn't have her microphone setup properly so we did some test runs until we got the volume right, got it so it sounded good, and got her system set up correctly so what she recorded sounded the way I wanted it for the game. Then, she got a head cold or something and she couldn't do any voice work for me until she got over that. That caused a major delay just because of something that was out of our control, and that set me behind somewhat. Finally, when we got everything squared away, she was over the head cold, her computer was set up, and we were ready to start work her modeling schedule picked up. Since her day job obviously takes priority over the game we both decided it just was not worth the hastle. So I settled on Heather instead. As far as editing goes what files I did get from Cara took quite a bit of editing to get the way I wanted them. I had to trim them, take out any background microphone noise, etc. It was a serious pain in the butt. I realised as you did that using a Sapi voice is much much much easier to work with. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Thomas, I think people are confused when you use the Heather synthesized SAPI voice to record what is said in the game. To get a human to sound as consistent in rate, volume and lack of background noise would take weeks if not months of sound studio work instead of the few minutes to have the SAPI voice recorded to sound files. Plenty of people asked where I got the voices in my games so much that I finally made a list of them in the instructions. I think Heather was voted by a game magazine as the most popular voice. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi, you might try DSpeech from dimio.altervista.org as apose to text aloud, maybe it'll serve you better. it's free. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Shaun, In this case it isn't a soundcard issue. I've noticed that the Heather voice has a tendancy to pop and click sometimes when saving certain words an frazes with Text Aloud. I've tried to cut down on the pops and clicks as best I can, but a few still got through. If there was a better option as far as a voice goes I would use it. During one of the private betas I used Scansoft Karen, but I got complaints that people couldn't understand the speech do to the Australian accent. Since I don't really have a really high quality American English voice besides Heather I'm sort of stuck with it. shaun everiss wrote: could be a sound card or driver issue I have had cards that click. its the reason I have not updated my realtech hd because later drivers click loads more although I suspect the card clicks. I had a ac97 that clicked loads till I upgraded the drivers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091022-0, 10/22/2009 Tested on: 10/22/2009 9:10:05 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Shaun, In this case it isn't a soundcard issue. I've noticed that the Heather voice has a tendancy to pop and click sometimes when saving certain words an frazes with Text Aloud. I've tried to cut down on the pops and clicks as best I can, but a few still got through. If there was a better option as far as a voice goes I would use it. During one of the private betas I used Scansoft Karen, but I got complaints that people couldn't understand the speech do to the Australian accent. Since I don't really have a really high quality American English voice besides Heather I'm sort of stuck with it. shaun everiss wrote: could be a sound card or driver issue I have had cards that click. its the reason I have not updated my realtech hd because later drivers click loads more although I suspect the card clicks. I had a ac97 that clicked loads till I upgraded the drivers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
hmmm. I come from new zealand so its the other way round for me. However don't dispair, have you tried a brittish voice? I am using orphius1 which is well it says uk but it sounds more new zealand than anything else so maybe thats why. You always could try espeak although it sounds like a can still its ok for what it is. I suppoe you could try anna. At 03:58 a.m. 22/10/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, In this case it isn't a soundcard issue. I've noticed that the Heather voice has a tendancy to pop and click sometimes when saving certain words an frazes with Text Aloud. I've tried to cut down on the pops and clicks as best I can, but a few still got through. If there was a better option as far as a voice goes I would use it. During one of the private betas I used Scansoft Karen, but I got complaints that people couldn't understand the speech do to the Australian accent. Since I don't really have a really high quality American English voice besides Heather I'm sort of stuck with it. shaun everiss wrote: could be a sound card or driver issue I have had cards that click. its the reason I have not updated my realtech hd because later drivers click loads more although I suspect the card clicks. I had a ac97 that clicked loads till I upgraded the drivers. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
It does say locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Well it is now such that I have infovox Desktop installed and it says so in a strange way. There is virtually a click which sounds like a B so it is the only way to write it on the L, U, C, K, E, and D - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 It does say locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Well mine says Locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Well it is now such that I have infovox Desktop installed and it says so in a strange way. There is virtually a click which sounds like a B so it is the only way to write it on the L, U, C, K, E, and D - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 It does say locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
and Heather can not pronounce the word Bow! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Well mine says Locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Well it is now such that I have infovox Desktop installed and it says so in a strange way. There is virtually a click which sounds like a B so it is the only way to write it on the L, U, C, K, E, and D - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 It does say locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Yeah she does. She just says it really quickly. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 and Heather can not pronounce the word Bow! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Well mine says Locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Well it is now such that I have infovox Desktop installed and it says so in a strange way. There is virtually a click which sounds like a B so it is the only way to write it on the L, U, C, K, E, and D - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 It does say locked. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Haryi, Ummm...It already says locked. At least it sounds right to me. As for typing lucked into Text Aloud Heather says lucked and not locked. When I type locked into Text Aloud it says locked correctly. So I'm not really sure where you are coming from. Hayri Tulumcu wrote: Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
It sounds like it starts with B so that was why I made the file you might have heard. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Haryi, Ummm...It already says locked. At least it sounds right to me. As for typing lucked into Text Aloud Heather says lucked and not locked. When I type locked into Text Aloud it says locked correctly. So I'm not really sure where you are coming from. Hayri Tulumcu wrote: Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
Hi Bryan, Correct. I wonder if slowing some of the words down like bo and locked would help. Especially, since English isn't some peoples native language. Bryan Peterson wrote: Yeah she does. She just says it really quickly. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
That may help. It doesn't happen often but even I sometimes have trouble with the speach. And for someone who's not a native English speaker it would probably be even harder. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8 Hi Bryan, Correct. I wonder if slowing some of the words down like bo and locked would help. Especially, since English isn't some peoples native language. Bryan Peterson wrote: Yeah she does. She just says it really quickly. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Heather Voice in Mota Beta 8
could be a sound card or driver issue I have had cards that click. its the reason I have not updated my realtech hd because later drivers click loads more although I suspect the card clicks. I had a ac97 that clicked loads till I upgraded the drivers. At 11:12 a.m. 21/10/2009, you wrote: Hi Haryi, Ummm...It already says locked. At least it sounds right to me. As for typing lucked into Text Aloud Heather says lucked and not locked. When I type locked into Text Aloud it says locked correctly. So I'm not really sure where you are coming from. Hayri Tulumcu wrote: Hi Thomas. If you want your Heather to say Locked instead Bocked then you should write Lucked and it spelled L, u, C, k, E, and D! for doing some weird clicks when using desktop infovox V 2220 in SAPI 5.1 or 5.3 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
