Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Duet receiver keep disconnecting and reconnecting from docker

2023-01-01 Thread Redrum


w3wilkes wrote: 
> Good idea on swapping PS with the other receiver. I've always done the
> reset on the controller from Advanced settings with no issue though. I
> will put your method in my "treasures of truth" if I need it in the
> future.

:)
I think both methods are the same, the '+'/power is just a shortcut of
sorts. Works on the radio and boom as well, touch? Don't know, I use
advance menu for that...

Happy New Year!

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Duet receiver keep disconnecting and reconnecting from docker

2022-12-31 Thread Redrum


w3wilkes wrote: 
> Pretty sure you need one of these to fix the stop and starting
> receiver;
> https://www.amazon.com/Belker-Adjustable-Universal-Household-Electronics/dp/B07NKZCWT1/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3RG7CETPEO02F=9v+dc+power+supply=1669308396=electronics=9v+dc+%2Celectronics%2C116=1-6
> 
> On the new one you should do a factory reset of the receiver (long press
> front button until the fast red blink) and controller. Then go through
> setup from the beginning.

agree with w3w, but just to add a couple things - why not try the new
receiver ps on the old one, and see if the disconnect issue changes?.
Also, to add a bit more detail to the reset - receiver as w3w describes,
controller is hard power off (press and hold), then hold down '+', then
press power, release both when screen come up.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS does not show artwork from radio stream when using playlists

2022-12-28 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> .
> 
> There are a limited number of developers and they only have limited time
> to look after issues. So if a fix for this issue is offered by a user,
> it will be checked and probably accepted.

I appreciate you giving it some thought and hypothesizing on what might
be happening, but again, I have no issue with the behavior observed. I
was just confirming I experienced what the OP was reporting.

Would it be nice if it behaved the same way for streams as it does for
songs? Sure. I stated the use case. But if playlists were intended only
for songs, so be it. LMS is just as wonderful without it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS does not show artwork from radio stream when using playlists

2022-12-28 Thread Redrum


Redrum wrote: 
> .
> 
> I really just wanted to confirm that I saw what the OP saw, as I dropped
> it months ago, but I can recreate exact steps if requested.
> 
> 

It's easy to create. see the image below. I selected planet radio to
"play" (top of cue). I added to queue (second to bottom) planet
pootwaddle, mother earth instrumental, radio paradise flac (regular) -
bottom. All good. I switched to radio paradise to play. Still OK. I
switched to planet pootwaddle to play, and it played, but it adopted the
artwork and song info from Mother Earth (which was never played)

Note in this case, after one song played, it self corrected, but it
doesn't always correct, just remains "stuck"

Again, it's not anything I am requesting be "fixed" if it is an
unintended use.


Jim

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS does not show artwork from radio stream when using playlists

2022-12-28 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> The issues is probably (I haven't analysed the streams). - 1.FM does not
> include metadata in the stream so metadata is being supplied by Tune-in
> (aka  Radiotime).  LMS detects when a Radiotime stream is being played
> by the top level playlist URL (i.e. opml.radiotime.com ...) and then the
> RadioTime plugin fetches the metadata.
> 
> I suspect (but needs to be checked) when you put the the Radiotime URL
> within another playlist - it is no longer the top playlist and so plugin
> may not be activated (it looks for a radiotime.com or tunein.com URL to
> be playing).  The "bug" may be a limitation of LMS.   For playing URL
> (1.FM urL) within a playlist (opml.radio.com) within a playlist (your
> playlist with multiple URLs) - there can be only one top URL - having
> nested "top" URLs may be too complicated to manage.
> 
> To test - you should confirms the URL that is in your playlist si the
> onme liust in your 1st post.  You could try enabling logging for
> plugin.radio and maybe formats.metadata

when I tried it and it failed, I tried it with the RP FLAC (both), mp3,
and a couple of other random stations (probably tune in) Again, what I
saw is you can add them all fine, and they usually play, but when you
switch from playing say position 5, to 2, 2 plays with the meta data for
5.

I really just wanted to confirm that I saw what the OP saw, as I dropped
it months ago, but I can recreate exact steps if requested.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS does not show artwork from radio stream when using playlists

2022-12-28 Thread Redrum

d6jg wrote: 
> But it’s not a playlist is it?
> A playlist plays items in sequence.
> You are treating it as a collection of favourites.
> Why should the developers (Michael) code for an unintended use when
> favourites does exactly what you want - albeit you might have to
> manually create them if you want a station in 2 or more places?
> I’m sure Michael has a long list of development ideas that would rank
> ahead of this.

Jim, I am not trying to ruffle any feathers, and I am not trying to
request any more work of anyone. I simply was confirming that I had seen
and reported what the OP had seen. Back when I tried it, I saw an
unintended use for it, had a "wow cool!" moment until I found the
issues. Like I said before, when I saw it wasn't something that was
"just broke and could be fixed" I just dropped it. I sincerely thought I
was reporting an issue that maybe had been created with a rev to LMS,
but realized that was not the case.

I have a use for something similar. I have a group of starting I select
between in the morning, and a group that I listen to in the afternoon,
especially late afternoon when I am fading a bit. Sometimes a station is
playing something I don't care for, so I switch it. I really like the
presets of, say a boom or a radio for switching station. But that does
not exists in LMS, sat on the material apk on my phone. Since I have my
favorites in a menu structure, I have several taps back and forward to
change the station.

My coding skills have not been used since K 'C' (without the ++), but
I have thought about trying to develop a plugin that would allow either
presets, or a favorite that can be a redirection (pointer) to another
favorite. Yes, you can duplicate, but when something changes with the
station (url) you need to change all locations.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS does not show artwork from radio stream when using playlists

2022-12-27 Thread Redrum


Hi Jim (d6jg) - I disagree on the bizarre comment, I actually thought it
would be great if it worked (back when I tried it). In a way, it could
be thought of as a list of presets. Let's say you have 50 stations of
all genres, in a folder structure. You want to create a playlist of your
5 favorite "active" or "mellow" stations (which might be on different
branches of the folder structure), create those playlists, load them,
and choose between the stations.

But it doesn't work. I reported this back here:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116190-I-broke-LMS-How-did-I-do-it-Can-I-fix-without-reinstalling
and here
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116205-Multiple-Radio-Stations-In-The-Queue-Observations-and-Unexpected-Behaviour=1051646#post1051646

I am often asked here to provide as much detail as possibly, and I tend
to be a bit verbose (engineer), but in this thread I took a bit of flack
for it, so I stopped pursuit of a solution.

what I remember is that you could load stations into the queue (and save
to playlist if you like), and you could select a member of the list, it
would play, but eventually the artwork and meta data (from the previous
station) would persist when selecting a new station. Sp, play A, works
fine, switch to B, plays fine, but with A's artwork/meta. There was
other unexpected behavior including LMS locking up.

The other comment regarding creating a folder in favorites - this woud
work, but in my use case you would have to duplicate the favorites, and
to do this, you have to manually create them. If LMS had a way of
creating a redirection (pointer) as a favorite item, this would help,
but it doesnt (to the best of my knowledge)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plug-in dilema

2022-11-12 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> There for me under 3rd party plugins, I use piCorePlayer.
> 
> .

Me too.

I have seen plugins disappear (seriously) from the plugin page. Try
restarting LMS then refreshing your browser.

I think it has happened when a plugin is selected, then "apply", and
"restart later" is selected, or, maybe if the plugin doesn't require a
restart. It seems like after "apply" it disappears, but doesn't ever
show up in active until LMS is using it/has restarted.

I say this because I too have searched for plugins that "have to be in
there somewhere" :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-09 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I think you also unwittingly misled us in the first post when you said
> you were adding new music folders to LMS. I am pretty sure a lot of
> people thought you were trying to add more top level folders not album
> folders inside the existing Music folder [emoji3] 
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I actually though he was adding subfolders

I think there is allot of "subject to interpretation" that goes on here,
it's natural. If one were to include all of the details, the post would
be overly verbose (like mine can be :)).

The good people here have helped out many who started very very vague.
That wasn't Tony! 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-09 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> NO!!
> 
> I know you are trying to help but he shouldn't change *everything*
> recursively unless he knows why the problem has occurred. He could
> easily make things worse by doing so.

ok, my bad, but you had pointed out to do it with the recursive
checkmark, and when Tony mentioned he changed files individually, I
thought I would remind him that you were indicating he should use the
recursive method.

I had no idea you saw this as a problem, sorry. I was simply trying to
point out that he might have missed part of your instructions.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-09 Thread Redrum


Tony, Jim is "the fixer" :) Happy you have it figured out.

Note that if you check the recursive box of the parent (folder) , it
should change the attributes for all of the children (subfolder and
files). You mentioned that you changed individual files, should not be
necessary. In fact, maybe you could just choose your main "music" folder
and change all files recursively with one action? Not sure, try it.

As for why, I have been wondering if there was a recent update to the
QNAP OS that might have added a bit of extra security and this is a
byproduct. I took a quick search and there is some related chatter on
the web, but of course, not being a NAS guy, I didn't know what I was
reading.

Thankfully, Jim is knowledgeable

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> 
> 
> .When it comes to allocating user access to the sub folders within the
> MUSIC folder on the USB , my NAS does not allow sub folder permissions
> on external drives

maybe try just putting a bunch of music files in the root directory on
the external drive?

Also, this is a wild a$$ shot in the dark, but is it possible that your
NAS restricts hierarchy levels on your drive (similar to stick), and the
problem folders are deeper than the working, so access is restricted?
Something is preventing LMS to browse to the problem folder(s)

e.g. drive:
music/working
music/another folder/another folder/problem

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> Jim just tried - .flac and .mp3 do not appear to be valid file
> extensions on the forum, cannot upload

Im not following Jim's (d6jg) suggestion. You mentioned it's the folders
that cannot be navigated to, right? So, you can take, say files from
inside the problem folder and copy them to the working folders, scan,
and LMS finds them right (because it can browse to working folder)?

Similarly, move some files from working to problem and see if they
disappear (they will)

My point being, I had thought this was a folder problem

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> Forget Revo Uninstaller - that's for Windows software.
> 
> 

Thanks, and again, I know nothing about NAS, and I said "like" revo. (as
in similar to). Is there an alternate he can try?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-08 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> I have uninstalled/reinstalled LMS from my NAS a few times since the
> problem began without any joy. Admittedly the uninstalls took place
> using 'Applications' built into the NAs and not Revo Uninstaller. Would
> be prepared to try that route if someone can tell me how?

I'll have to defer to others to help you with uninstall on your NAS, I
have zero knowledge/experience.

If it were me, I would hate to give up as it is bound to be something
little, right? But, if you do decide you want to stop beating your head
against the wall, I would suggest getting a raspberry pi (if you can
find one, or second hand) and run picoreplayer (pcp) as a LMS server
only (which is what I do). Then you can point the pcp to the NAS
(similar to what your PC is doing). Run the pcp 24/7 (like your NAS)
it's low power consumption, and fits your desire to not have the PC on
to listen.

Most would suggest that you get a pi4, but I have both a 4 and the 3b+
and the 3b+ runs fine. <$100 USD (on ebay, less if you can find one
through an auth reseller) and your problem is solved. Plus, if you want,
you can use the pi as another squeezelite player.

The one other option that I know nothing about, is running LMS in a
docker. I am wondering if this would inadvertently solve your problem.

Finally, I had suggested a while back - can you insert a USB stick of
music in your NAS and see if NAS LMS finds it? If it does, it's
something specific to how your NAS sees your drive vs the stick
(permissions, etc)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.3.0 released

2022-11-07 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> .
> 
> Hmm... player <-> MySB should not have changed. LMS <-> MySB did.

I never actually connected to mysb.com, rather, after a
controller/receiver factory reset, after logging into network, usually I
get the message that it registered to , change/continue? This
time it behaved as if the player (duet) was never registered, prompting
for email and pw, then giving me a "your player has been registered..."
message. These players have been register to me for years...

I did this with 2 receivers, I can try other players when I get a
chance...

again, no biggie, just reporting an observation

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.3.0 released

2022-11-07 Thread Redrum


Thanks to Michael and everything for continued development of LMS :)

This question is just a curiosity, no action needed. I am wondering if
something changed with player authentication and mysb.com?

I ask because I had to do a controller/receiver factory reset on a
couple receivers I have after extended idle time. During the process,
after using the thumbwheel for my wifi password, the process asked for
my mysb.com email address and password, which I don't ever remember
being the case in the past. Usually, I would get the registration -
register/continue screen. No problem, but using the thumbwheel isn't as
easy as typing :)

again, just curious.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-07 Thread Redrum


Tony;

I am wondering if you have thought of uninstalling LMS from your NAS,
and reinstalling? It shouldn't be that hard, and the biggest time
consumer will be the initial scan. I think the key will be to get a
complete uninstall, maybe use something like revo uninstaller.

I am thinking that you installed LMS on your NAS initially, and
everything worked (as far as you know). Perhaps it will again. You never
know.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-07 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> Hello again Jim,
> My Logitech Server on my QNAP is Version: 8.3.1.
> 
> 
> Lots of distractions today (vistors) but I finally got LMS on Windows to
> scan my QNAP Music folder and ALL my albums are visible and playable!!
> 
> I think it's a step forward in some way? However to play the files, I
> still obviously need to have Windows LMS available and to do that my PC
> needs to be running.
> 
> Does that shed any light on my situation?

Hi Tony;

Obviously, you don't want to have to run LMS on windows. I was only
suggesting to try this to perhaps narrow down the issue. Maybe it has.
But, as I mentioned, I am not familiar with how LMS runs on a QNAP NAS,
so I would just be guessing at this point. Many others on this thread
are very knowledgeable, so perhaps this would give them an "ah-ha"
moment.

I like to try different combinations (swap, etc) to isolate the culprit.
I have fixed allot of things I know nothing about that way :). It seems
to me that the NAS is allowing an outside service (LMS on a PC) to
access files on it (which is it's function), but stumbling when an
internal application (LMS) tries to do the same.

You also said it worked fine for a while. I'm not a believer in
coincidences. Try to think back as to what has changed since you believe
it was working on the NAS (NAS update, LNMS update, hardware change, new
network equipment, etc) and perhaps change back (if possible) one at a
time.

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-06 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> Relatively inexperienced with digging into LMS  - I have a QNAP NAS,
> which has been working very well for quite some time. Just recently I
> have noticed when adding new Music Folders to my NAS, they are not
> appearing in the LMS. Permissions for all my music folders are
> identical, so I have ruled that problem out?
> 
> As an experiment, I installed LMS on my Windows 10 and copied music
> folders from the NAS to my PC and discovered that all the 'missing'
> folders are there and accessible.
> 

Back to your first post

First, probably not relevant, but what version of LMS are you running? I
didn't see it mentioned.

So, LMS on NAS, worked for some time, added new folders, LMS can't find
them. Then you installed LMS on a PC, transferred Music to the PC, LMS
finds them.

Did you try (as an experiment) using the LMS on the PC, point LMS to the
music on the NAS, scan, what happens? Or, just use browse and see if the
folders on the NAS are discovered by LMS on the PC

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-05 Thread Redrum


tonymac wrote: 
> 
> 
> Something has obviously changed on the NAS, but I don't know what or
> when, despite following everyone's suggestions. It's driving me to
> distraction

This is worth fixing, you have a lot of 10cc in your library :). One of
my fav's...

I have never owned a NAS and know nothing about them, but, as a test, if
they have a USB port, put the music on a USB stick, and see if you can
browse to it? That would least isolate it to the troublesome drive (and
perhaps attributes?) or the whole NAS itself.

As @slarti pointed out, if you can't browse to it, LMS won't find it to
scan it.

This issue (scan cannot find music) has come up a lot, for example with
picopreplayer and attached older USB drives (dug out of the closet :)).
Sometimes it's the power to the drive, etc. But most times it's reported
that "it works when attached to the PC". You reallly can't come to a
conclusion based on that, it's not apples to apples.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-04 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Did you browse to the folders in LMS Basic settings Media Folders?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

this is a good point (offered twice :)). By browsing and selecting, you
eliminate the possibility of syntax errors, and also expose if LMS can't
access your folder (for whatever reason).

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing Music

2022-11-04 Thread Redrum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> First step is simply to read the scanner, and maybe server, log via the
> LMS web interface to see if there is any clue.

@tonymac, since you are rather new to this, perhaps a little more detail
as to what Paul is suggesting:

You can get to the standard LMS UI: :9000/?, then in
the lower right hand corner, click "settings" See my screenshot, where
the red line masks my ip.  in the numerical
xxx.xxx.xx.xxx format.

39023

Then choose the "advanced" tab, then the "logging" from the pull down.
You can see the scanner log (highlighted) and the server log as well

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help streaming from a website

2022-09-23 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> From "The only workaround I've found is to just play the music on a web
> browser on my computer and use "Stream What You Hear" to stream it to
> LMS. But that way I don't get any control over the music nor am I able
> to see the name/artist of what's playing." I think he's already tried
> that [emoji1787]
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Thanks, It might help for me to read the entire post...or to stay off
the forum until I've had my first cup...:o

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help streaming from a website

2022-09-23 Thread Redrum


If you don't mind using a pc or other as the source for control, you
might try this:

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108937-Stream-What-You-Hear-and-Squeezebox

I have not tried it, but others have. If you run into trouble, maybe
post on that thread...

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR without LMS

2022-09-18 Thread Redrum


isr2002 wrote: 
> Somewhere in my mind was the idea that SBR has DLNA capabilities...  :(

maybe the dim memory came from the fact that the touch could play local
music out of the box, with it's built in "Tiny LMS", which is limited,
out of date, and only works if you don't try to ask it to do too much.

As @ab suggested, find something, preferably energy efficient to run
LMS, put it on your LAN and let it run 24/7. A raspberry pi used to be a
real small, inexpensive solution, but now that you can't get 'em new,
second hand is allot pricier, but still a reasonable value for the
functionality you are getting.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help - LMS no more running

2022-09-18 Thread Redrum


embryas wrote: 
> I was not sure whether I should see the subfolders when browsing, but of
> course it must be possible which I realized later. So you see I am
> really a beginner...or the blind squirrel...

happy for you! note that my "blind squirrel" reference was to myself not
directed at you. "even a blind squirrel can find a nut from time to
time" meaning, I had no idea how to solve your problem, but took a shot
in the dark at something to try and it might have helped.

By using browse, you should be able to go right to the subfolder you
want to set as the location of your music or playlists. I was wondering
if maybe your paths "looked right" but weren't. So, my thought was, by
using browse you are sure to set the right paths. In the case of Ronnie
pointing you to Mr C, the inability to go to the subfolder indicated
where your problem is.

The great thing about LMS is it is so powerful and flexible. But that
comes with a price, there is allot going on and a lot to learn and
understand. I joined this forum in '09 and am still a bit of a blind
squirrel compared to many of the members of forum :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help - LMS no more running

2022-09-17 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> No need to thank me, *@MrC* did  the work, I just did the pointing :)
> 
> ronnie

Yes, but you are the master Ronnie :p:cool:

So, my suggestion to use browse in the media folder selection would have
uncovered the problem?? Even a blind squirrel...:eek:

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Mounted disk "missing"

2022-04-18 Thread Redrum


Here's a picture of my setup, Samba section of pcP on the left, windows
explorer on the right. You enter in the server name, and share name,
then use it to access it in windows. Be very careful - CASE SENSITIVE.
You will need to use the UN (tc) and set a pw.

37750

Here is how I use freefilesync - On the left is my master library on my
PC, and on the right is the files on the HDD attached to the pCP. You
just do a compare, then Mirror (there are other options besides
mirror).

37751

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Mounted disk "missing"

2022-04-18 Thread Redrum


muggo wrote: 
> Hi Jim,
> Yes, it's the Seagate that looked like it was mounted but wasn't
> addressable.  I'm keeping the LMS data on this drive & can't see an
> option of storing it elsewhere.  What's an SD?  
> By unmounting & mounting, is that the Map Network Drive/Disconnect
> Network Drive feature in Explorer?
> 
> Paul

Hi Paul, glad you got it sorted. 

The "SD" is the micro SD card (uSD) in the pi that stores the image for
pCP which is loaded into RAM (pi memory)  to run pCP. When you setup
pCP, the LMS "data" (cache and prefs) is stored on the uSD. During setp
(the page in your first post) you have the option to just keep it there,
or move it to a drive that you might mount. In my case I used to move
it, but it caused my unique issue.

There has been discussions regarding where is the "best" place to store
the LMS data, and one of the newer suggestions (from @Paul-) is to
create a third partiton on the SD. That is an option when you setup your
pCP. This is what I do. Many thoughts on this but the SD technology is
subject to corruption if power is lost during a data write. pCP loads
into RAM so it is not likely to corrupt, but LMS needs to access the LMS
data.

Regarding mounting and umounting, I was referring to the pCP UI picture
in your first post. Under "pick from detected usb drives to mount" I was
saying to try unchecking the seagate and hit apply, then checking and
hit apply.

Also, since your issue occured trying to backup your music, consider
using samba ("set samba share" section). This creates a "mount point(s)"
where in windows you can create a "network location" by using the server
name and share name (in pcP) to create basically folder location in
windows that looks right at the HDD on your pi.

I also use freefilesync to sync between my master library (on PC) and
mirrored libabry on pCP.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Mounted disk "missing"

2022-04-18 Thread Redrum


Is that Seagate drive shown in your first post the one you are looking
for?  If so, try unmounting it, then mounting it again. Even if it
"looks" like it's mounted. Also, where are you keeping the LMS data, on
this drive, or your SD?

A while back I was storing my LMS data on an attached USB HDD, and would
have power failures where the drive mount got "lost". It happened with
every power failure/restore. Above is how I recovered. Since that time,
I keep my LMS data on a 3rd partition on the SD. Not sure exactly what
problem that solved for me, but I can only imagine it had something to
do with pCP looking for something from the LMS data, and not seeing it
on the HDD (spin up?), where its now available on the SD.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is this a good or bad idea? LMS and Windows 10 question.

2022-04-17 Thread Redrum


gstalnaker wrote: 
> I Googled for a Squeezebox Touch manual before I replied. The one I
> found
> at Logitech shows it does have RCA inputs:
> 
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.logitech.com/assets/30072/documentation.pdf=U=2ahUKEwiH6eLrqpv3AhVskWoFHWR2DCoQFnoECAsQAg=AOvVaw2Hp3ymV6UzUP82_ARwjEym
> 

The touch has RCA outputs. "Inputs" was what was being questioned. Your
quote: -"You can use a 1/8" jack
to RCA audio cable to get from the RPi to the Touch's RCA inputs." -

I think what the OP wants is to use ethernet/wifi to go from the pi
(running LMS) to the touch, then the touch digital or RCA outputs to his
kit.

Not trying to be critical, mind you...:)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is this a good or bad idea? LMS and Windows 10 question.

2022-04-17 Thread Redrum


I think the shortage is everywhere. But, you don't necessarily need the
latest and greatest. I run one system on a 4, the other on a 3b+ and I
only really notice any difference during library scan and for me it's
insignificant.

Others can chime in, but I think you can actually run it on just about
any model (correction requested), so you could get a "less desirable" on
the 2nd hand market and switch over to something better later.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is this a good or bad idea? LMS and Windows 10 question.

2022-04-17 Thread Redrum


DavidBullock62 wrote: 
> Thank you for the replies.
> 
> I do agree that the RPi is a very tempting solution. The only reason
> that I am not really considering the RPi route at the moment is that I
> changed jobs two years ago, and unfortunately at the moment I am
> exceedingly time poor with the new job, study and family. 
> 
> I will have a look today at the RPi options as it is a quiet sort of day
> for me, I was hoping for something quite turnkey and with a technology
> that I was already familiar with. (Haven't touched Unix for a few
> years.)

I think you might be overestimating what's involved to setup
PiCorePlayer on an rpi running LMS, with your NAS mounted. pCP is GUI
based and if all goes well, if setting up just a LMS server, you should
be up quite quickly. For those experienced in building them, < 1 hour.
It seems that mounting the drives can get tricky for some. I use a USB
HDD no problem.

Check out the "getting started" page:
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/getting-started/ there are also a few
videos on youtube you can take a peek at to see what's involved.

There is also the power consumption advantage to consider I went from
having my win 7 machine have to be on in order to listen to music to pcP
running 24/7. I measured the power difference once, but forgot where I
put those notes :rolleyes:

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Play start when powering on synchronized device

2022-04-10 Thread Redrum


nickey wrote: 
> in my experience playback sometimes comes to a complete stop for no
> apparent reason when a new player joins. I use the YouTube plugin quite
> a lot and if you are in the middle of a long track or a playlist of
> tracks and the problem happens, it's then quite challenging to find your
> way back manually to the playback position you were at. (and I don't
> think the resume playback position the developer added works for this
> scenario) For streaming radio stations it's easier...you just just hit
> play to get things going again.
> 

I'm going to make a suggestion that may do absolutely nothing, but who
knows, it may help. What you described (finding where you left off after
unexplained stoppage) is exactly what I and others experienced with
Podcasts.

@Phillipe44 wrote the "reliable" plug in that became a feature in LMS
(after 8.2? 8.1?). Go to settings, advanced tab, network pulldown, and
choose "persistent" mode for HTTS streaming. Read the note on the "i"
for more information.

Like I said it can't hurt and it might help other https streaming
issues

Jim

PS - as @slarti mentioned, try the material apk for android, and through
a browser for everything else (PC, i devices). I have squeeze cntrl, and
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Multiple Radio Stations In The Queue - Observations and Unexpected Behaviour

2022-04-02 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> If you can describe a method to reproduce your problem on another system
> then the problem can be checked. 
> 
> If it is just the radio playlist then a copy of the playlist file and
> descriptions of actions/symptoms may be all that is necessary to
> reproduce.
> 
> Internet radio URL playlist (e.g. m3u, pls, asx) can seem to have
> different behaviour than a file playlist because streaming URLs can have
> retries and delays built into their handlers.

I'm Not sure I understand this response. Are you referring specifically
to playlists? Because I described in excruciating detail how to cause
disruption by adding to the queue in this thread, in the attached
document.

If you are referring specifically to playlists, then, sure. I can
document steps to disrupt (and be concise, I promise :)). My original
journey down this rabbit hole started with adding multiple streams to
the queue and creating a playlist. With the contents moved to the queue,
there was allot of unexpected behavior when selecting position 1, then
3, then 2, etc. That ended up with my "I broke LMS" thread.

But as you have suggested, and I, and I am sure others would agree, is
it worth even thinking about for the 0.01% that might want to have this
work predictably? I think time has convinced me that it isn't.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-04-02 Thread Redrum


Zombie wrote: 
> I use duct tape when LMS is broken :cool:

I don't have the cache for duct tape :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Multiple Radio Stations In The Queue - Observations and Unexpected Behaviour

2022-04-01 Thread Redrum


bpa wrote: 
> 
> 
> So a question has to be asked - are these realistic scenarios ? To
> resolve the problem may add complexity to the plugin which in practice
> will never be used.

Agree, I need to reiterate that these are observations, not meant to
create work, but rather to point out a use case that resulted in
unexpected behavior, maybe something a dev consider a bug.

Taking it further thought, through using the queue with radio streams
(playing around), I managed to somehow alter LMS (other thread) -
unrecoverable, I will need to reinstall.

The answer could be just to prevent more than one stream item in the
queue, or leave it as is. I just thought it was pretty cool to be able
to create global "presets" as presets are player dependent, but that's
just me.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-04-01 Thread Redrum


did some testing, continued over here:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116205-Multiple-Radio-Stations-In-The-Queue-Observations-and-Unexpected-Behaviour=1051646#post1051646

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-31 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> If it were my system, I would probably be in a panic to get a
> non-essential feature working again.

I like to think that I personally am in recovery from that very same
affliction, always prone for a relapse. :). I think that's why I feel
the need to recreate the failure scenario.

Thanks for tip Robb, I'll give it a try. I had also thought of putting
an album of music files in the queue, then syncing all player (currently
8 I think), letting it play through, then restarting LMS. If I had to
guess, something is amiss with the queue, base on some of the behavior I
have seen. I'll give that a try.

Backup system is built, just getting ready to see if I can recreate,
first - the "now playing" abnormalities, second, the current
unrecoverable state

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-30 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> Jim, have you cleared the playlist/queue on EVERY player in your system,
> including any group players? If not, that might be worth a try. (Not
> that I'm holding out a lot of hope...)

yes, thanks, tried it again, no go, but I ran into another oddity
:confused:

I went through my list of players and cleared the queue, but was unaware
that two of the problem children were "on" (soft power on). All queue's
cleared, restart LMS, and in the problem player queue appeared two radio
paradise genres Main and Rock. They hadn't been in there. I cleared the
queue gain, restarted LMS, they reappeared again. Noticed power was on,
turned it off, then cleared queue, restarted LMS, queue remained empty.

Again, this is not a non working system that I have to fix, more of a
very elaborate puzzle I need to solve. I enjoy it in a way. The victory
will be sweet, unless it's something real dumb, I am just hoping it's
not user error :o

Jim

PS - I am recalling the details of how this mess evolved. I had all 4 RP
FLAC non interactives in the queue, switching back and forth, and I
noticed that the playing stream's "now playing" was frozen on a song
played 1/2 hour before, and it might not have even been the currently
playing stream (e.g. most black sabbath is not in mellow mix). I then
went through all sorts of gyrations trying to get now playing fixed, and
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-30 Thread Redrum


Just thought I would post an update, if even just to document for my
purposes. Please feel free to see this post is from me, roll your eyes
and move on. Even I am skeptical of what I am experiencing :confused:

Up to this point: something happened while switching between multiple
radio stations in the queue and now, cannot load more than one radio
station into the queue, but everything else works fine.

This morning I discovered:
1) It is player dependent (but not type of player), I have multiple
players on this system and some still work normally! (can add multiple
stations)
** can add - 2 radios, one receiver
** can't add - 1 radio, two touch, one receiver

2) Nothing is logged when I try to add a station and it fails.

3) On any of the "can't add" players, If I put more than one station in
the queue (e.g. one playing station, and a couple of those "null"
objects - see my pic first post), then I restart LMS, viola! All of the
stations are in the queue. But the victory is only fleeting. If I clear
the queue and try to reload, it goes back to behaving poorly. The fix
doesn't stick.

4) I tried RobbH's suggestion of a couple songs in the queue, play to
completion, restart, didn't help.

5) I saw notes in the logs for radios needing the patch, did that. I saw
entries for the bookmarks plugin, don't really use it, disabled it.

All for now, I'll move on to building a test system to see if I can
recreate what got me here and see what logs if I do. Again, I am not
eorried about my system, I can rebuild, Im more interested in finding if
there is a use case that caused this. I would imagine not alot of people
add multiple radio streams to the queue, but I think it's wonderfully
cool. :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-30 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> Lots of references to Radio Paradise streams in that log, but that's to
> be expected, if you were trying to reload them. The log begins with a
> reboot at 12:39 pm on March 28.
> 
> I don't know enough to say if the errors in the log tell us anything
> useful.

That's what I saw too. I knew that the "event" which changed it occurred
around 10AM, so the log didn't go back that far. I imagine the log was
restarted when I went through a few "reboot and repent" cyclesoh
wait, repent is only with Windows :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-29 Thread Redrum


@RobbH

Thanks for the thoughts, I'll give them some consideration. BTW, my log
file is attached to an earlier post. Im not a great log file
interpreter. :o

My LMS is running fine, I just cannot queue radio stations, no big deal.
I also don't mind rebuilding a test system on a pi3B+ that I have laying
around.  I am going to basically build a new system to see if I can
replicate what I did to get me to this point.

Its not time wasted

I hope to get back to investigating the issues that you and i witnessed
with multiple stations in the queue. I don't think it's exclusive to
Radio Now Playing. I found that regular streams, RP streams, and RNP
streams all behaved differently. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-29 Thread Redrum


RobbH wrote: 
> Are older logs available? I don't know if piCorePlayer handles logs
> differently, but many Linux distros keep zipped versions of older logs
> for some time.
> 
> Here's what I find in the log folder on RaspberryPiOS:
> 
> server.log
> server.log.1.gz
> server.log.2.gz
> server.log.3.gz
> server.log.4.gz
> server.log.5.gz

Hey Robb; 

Thanks, I couldn't find anything using samba pointed to where my LMS
data is (3rd partition on SD on Pi). I searched for "server" and "log"
via windows. Maybe someone else knows where they are stored on a pCP and
what they are called, or maybe I'll poke around the pCP help site.
Otherwise, I am just going to go ahead and build the test system ground
up

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-29 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> 
> 
> Oh well... this posting is almost as long as the first one...

Well, I am the self proclaimed "king of the run on sentence" I never met
a comma I couldn't place  :o

I apologize, I did the best I could, but a multistep process created the
situation. I'll also stop using "broke", let's call it "altered" (in
case I offended anyone)

Can you reproduce this with _any_ radio stream, or is this specific to 
RP streams?

Yes, Once altered, I cannot add more than one of any radio stream to the
queue.

And by wiping the queue your LMS would be working again, right? 
Nope, permanently altered, which is what I restarted/reinstalled plugin,
etc. I see no recovery other than reinstalling LMS...which is why I
asked.

I don't see where you "broke LMS". You hit some corner case which causes

unexpected behaviour in an unexpected use case. But LMS would still 
mostly work perfectly fine, right?


I love LMS :) But once "altered" LMS works fine, except this one (seldom
used) use case (add multiple streams to the queue). This is why I am not
asking for anyone to spend time on it. But, I did create an
unrecoverable situation as a user, and I thought that might be worth
chasing down.

So I'll ask again... what does not work (besides queuing up RP 
stations)? Why don't you clear the playlist, which you said did work?

queuing up more than one of ANY stations. My altered LMS will allow the
queue to work fine with music files, but will only add one radio stream.
Trying to add more adds the empty objects (see first post).

To be 100% clear, I just discovered having multiple radio stations in
the queue as a pseudo preset list. But @RobbH and I saw some abnormal
operations with multiple radio streams in the queue (now playing
timing/song info got out of wack). It was discussed on material and
Radio Now Playing threads. I was trying to precisely recreate those
abnormality (to report them) and I inadvertently created "altered". 

FINALLY, I SUGGEST UNLESS ANYONE KNOWS AN \"AH-HA\" WE TABLE THIS. I'LL
BUILD A NEW SYSTEM ON ANOTHER PI AND SEE IF I CAN RECREATE THE ALTERING
PROCESS AND CAPTURE THE LOGS. THAT MIGHT BE MEANINGFUL.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-29 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> Could you please summarize what issue exactly you're experiencing which
> would "break" LMS?

Hi Michael, I explained in the first post, but here's an "executive
summary"

-I added all four genre FLAC regular RP streams to the queue
successfully. I was switching between them by selecting "play" from
their position in the queue. I noticed an abnormality ("now playing"
info froze while music played on). I cleared the queue. I attemped to
add all four stations again, but only one adds, the others don't add
(standard UI), add as just an blank image (material), or add as a blank
image with "loading" (squeeze control). These "blank items" cannot be
"removed" I need to clear the queue.-

I restarted lms, restarted pCP, disabled the RP plugin, reenabled,
rinse, repeat, still cannot add more than one internet radio station. 

I am not asking for anyone to figure out what happened for me. I am not
asking for anyone to work on it. I was just looking for a way out that
isn't reinstall LMS (e.g delete the file "bugskeptinhere.opml").

There are allot of abnormal things happen with multiple streams in the
queue that doesn't happen with music library files and I was trying to
track them down and quantify them, then this happened. :( Not the end of
the world as LMS still works normally, just not in this respect.

I will hunt down more logs (thanks RobbH). I will also do this - I have
a spare pi that I'll install pCP and LMS on, configure like my current
system, and see if I can break that one too (and of course get the logs
before I do a restart)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-29 Thread Redrum


I'm afraid it only has logs from after I broke it, illustrating my
subsequent thrashing around...
Jim


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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] I broke LMS, How did I do it?, Can I fix without reinstalling?

2022-03-29 Thread Redrum


LMS 8.2 on a pCP 7

Nothing like doing some testing track down an issue, only to break
something else :)

Member @RobbH and I both noticed some album art/information and timing
issues when adding multiple internet radio streams to the queue, then
selecting them to play, as a pseudo set of presents. So I started
methodically testing to try to create a clear way to replicate, and
perhaps some clues along the way...Then I broke it. :(

Here's what I did. I added each of the four genre radio paradise FLAC
(non interactive) to the queue. They loaded fine. When I started
selecting each to play, I noticed that it would "freeze" now playing
info (song/art does not change). That was the original issue I was
tracing.

But then new problem came after I did allot of play this try that (to
chase the artwork freeze), then I cleared the queue, and tried to re-add
the four stations to try again. I couldn't (see below). Other internet
radio streams do not work as well. LMS UI doesn't let you, Material
creates a null graphic that the menu doesn't work, so you can't delete.
Squeeze control is also shown.

Note that adding my music files works fine.

So, stop/start LMS, reboot pCP, uninstall/Reinstall RP plugin - nothing
works. Perhaps there is a magic file in cache that I can delete?

Sorry for breaking it :o
Jim

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS does not mount a 2 TB usbportable disc

2022-03-26 Thread Redrum


dileo65 wrote: 
> Well, since the mouning process was succesfully within in pcp, it stuck
> within LMS, so it could be a LMS problem also.

How about a clarification? When you say that within LMS the device
cannot me mounted or scanned, do you mean in setting->basic settings,
you cannot browse to where your music is, or scan it?

Mine:
37574
blue is my mount path, yellow is the folder path from the mount point.

If the answer is yes, @ktp is right, it is not mounted, even though in
pCP it might appear that it is. Like he said, make sure the power being
supplied by the pi is enough for the drive. I think most pi's can supply
1.2A (total) to all of the USB ports, I would not exceed 80% of this.
Also, hopefully your pi power supply is an official one.

Btw, I run a 2TB Western Digital Hard Drive on my pCP.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Turn Off All Players

2022-03-26 Thread Redrum


GeekDragon wrote: 
> Mark, that's genius! Totally went over my head to do this. I've set this
> up and tested it with great success and now I can automate this action
> with a Zigbee button attached to the frig so my GF can simply shut
> everything down.
> 
> Thank you again and if you have any other cool Material tricks that you
> wish to share please do!
> 
> And Yes, calling it quits at 62 has been great! Never thought I could
> just chill out but it's quite easy when you give it a go.

wait until you get to the point where you are pretty sure you know what
day of the week it is (most of the time) but have no idea of the date.
:) I'm there...

Material things to know/I have discovered:

1) If you have android devices, the apk is the way to go.
2) Related, even if you are an apple family, the Amazon Fire HD tablets
are super cheap, especially if you buy them via their "deal" business
"woot!", or you buy the older generation. I prefer the HD8, and you can
get them $25-$50. They are cheap because they are an advertising machine
with the built in ad lockscreen and everything goes through amazon. But
the XDA developers site has developed a "fire toolbox" to remove all of
this (read the disclaimer in the process), add the google playstore (for
adding your apps), and more. It restores it to "looks like" stock
android. And it's real nice hardware, great display, and fast enough for
general use. Load the apk from F-Droid.

I bought a few extra and have them laying around the house as
"controllers" but they are a full tablet in functionality (browse apps,
email, etc). I am thinking about making a pi player and using a tablet
as the UI. I deployed a couple sb system to friends (after they saw
mine), and I have been waiting for deals, but and configure them a
tablet, and say "here, you owe me $40" :)

3) Podcasts - come into LMS as most recent episode on top, but people
want to listen bottom (first) to top (last). So, you add, say a season
to the queue in material, drag and drop to reorder, then you can save
the queue (say "pc season 1") and it appears in your playlist for
revisiting. Load it, play from the top, episodes play in order.

4) I recently started playing with using material as a preset handler
for internet radio stations. I have all of my stations in favorites,
under folders and subfolders, and when I want to switch, I have to
navigate the folders. What I am playing with is adding my favorite
stations (from different folders) to the material queue, then saving the
queue which creates a playlist. I can call up the playlist and select,
listen, don't like this song, select another. So I might have

I'll edit if more pop into my head.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Turn Off All Players

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


GeekDragon wrote: 
> .I'm recently retired so have the time to work with it.
> 

Congratulations! Welcome to bliss! :cool::D



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Turn Off All Players

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


epoch1970 wrote: 
> In the preferences for each player, sync section, you can find:

I also thought of that, but he said he wants to turn off all players
regardless of if they are grouped/synced or not. He wants an "all of"
(or so it seems).

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Turn Off All Players

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


I have never used it, and don't know if it's still viable, or current
LMS supports it, or all players (basically, I don't know
anything)...but.

There is a 3rd party plugin called "allQuiet", here's some info
https://tuxreborn.netlify.app/slim/allquiet

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS needs to be restarted to play Radio Paradise FLAC.

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> 
> 
> Are your Daff 's out yet ?
> 
> 

Hey Ronnie,
yea, just poking their little heads out, maybe 1-2". Makes me smile,
I've got allot of them. But, its not May yet, so they usually get a
little snow on them :(:confused:
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Backup of server settings

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


one last thought - backup the entire micro SD on your pi. I don't know
about debian, but I use picoreplayer and it has a backup feature that
allows you to back up the entire SD to a mounted drive or network
location (maybe?) without removing the card.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS needs to be restarted to play Radio Paradise FLAC.

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> .
> Wipe the SD card, download a fresh image of pCP and install a new LMS,
> reconfigure the server.
> 

I prefer to use a new SD card, just in case I make things worse!
:mad::confused::(

You can always go back to where you were...

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS needs to be restarted to play Radio Paradise FLAC.

2022-03-25 Thread Redrum


radekker wrote: 
> These are exactly the same symptoms I experienced after a power
> failure.
> I rebooted pCP (and thus LMS) and everything was fine again.
> 
> In the situation I'm referring to there was no power failure and *both*
> FLAC streams didn't play until I restarted LMS.
> This happened to me 3 times last week, but not always.
> It looks like I have to do some more testing (different stream types
> etc) to see what's really happening.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't have an answer for you, maybe
Ronnie does, he's a wizard :)

But, as a test, since the regular flac streams are affected, why not
create favorites to play the streams directly (from the link I gave
you). This will at least tell you if it's related to the plugin, or RP's
interface to the plugin (if that is different)

I do realize how frustrating "occasionally for no reason" issues can
be...:)

Jim

PS - as a bonus, since you like RP, check out "Jukebox Radio 2" out of
Toronto, Ont. Similar mix (I like it better), no commercials, no talk,
FLAC. You can stream it directly, but I use Paul Webster's "Radio Now
Playing" plugin that adds the song info and album art to the FLAC
streams. When I say that I like it better, its allot more like what RP
used to be before they migrated to being heavy in allot of newer and
world artists (I don't dislike, just prefer the older).



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS needs to be restarted to play Radio Paradise FLAC.

2022-03-24 Thread Redrum


This one has me scratching my head a bit...

Can you tell me, restart is required for which of these, or all? - FLAC,
FLAC Interactive, 320kbps, and all of the flavors (main, rock,
mellow...)

I am the guy that had issues with power failures. My symptoms were
this:
Flac Interactive would not play
Flac would play, but with no artwork, song info, just a RP logo and
banner
320kbps would play fine
On my touch, the clock screen saver would be black. This turned out to
be the smoking gun, come home, no clock, "we had a power failure!"

btw, the latest RP plugin is 3.1.1.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Backup of server settings

2022-03-23 Thread Redrum


TheCoyote wrote: 
> Thanks @Redrum, that's giving me some pointers. :) As for the plugins,
> I'll probably just write down which ones I use and the necessary
> configurations.

I have done a screen shot of the setting->plugins page to do exactly
that! :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Backup of server settings

2022-03-23 Thread Redrum


I can't give you the definitive answer, but can tell you what I know.
Everything is in the slimserver->cache and ->prefs folder where your LMS
data is stored 

37548

For example, in the prefs, favorites.opml contains the favorites, and
this file is portable (i.e. I copy it to other machines, no problem)

There are users here that say they just backup both folders, but Michael
has warned against backing up and trying to restore cache. I back both
of them up, but have not restored. Favorites is about the only thing
that I move around because I have a couple systems and generally give my
favorites to friends and family (I use favorites for radio stations
only, and apparently they depend on me to discover new stations for them
:))

I know that any podcasts are in a file in there, and both favorites and
podcasts are text files. I do remember losing my podcasts and just
looking at the file to see what I wanted to back out and get again.

Others might chime in (like GaryM), but this has been discussed in other
threads if you want to do a bit of searching.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Does free Pandora still work with the Pandora plugin?

2022-03-20 Thread Redrum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> It needs to be a SlimDevices or Logitech branded player for it to work
> because they are what Logitech has the agreement from Pandora to use.
> Working with a different device via sync is a fortunate side-effect of
> having a real player in the sync group.

this is really good to know. So, take that old receiver you aren't
using, plug it into your router, choose power on/off separately, sync
with it, and play pandora free on everything. :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No players connecting to LMS

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


musicalrower wrote: 
> Players were definitely connected to network - could see them in
> mysqueezebox .

Just to be clear, players show up in mysb.com if they have ever been
connected, even via different network, etc. Even if they are gone. They
just stay there until they are deleted. I have players in mysb.com that
I don't even own, I set them up for a friend!

But, as you mention, they show connected when they are connected to
mysb.com. So, if you are connected to LMS and you go
setting-advanced-networking-connect to mysb.com, you should see them
connected in mysb.com. Similarly, you go to my music, and they should
show not connected.

My suggestion on ethernet was just temporary, as a test, say with the
radio, just to take wifi out of the equation. But, thats just a wild
guess, and your issue has me (and you) baffled.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No players connecting to LMS

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


musicalrower wrote: 
> Thanks for the detail. LMS was definitely running - I can see the UI on
> port 9001 of my NAS. But autodiscovery just isn't happening for some
> reason.
> The manual step of connecting to remote library and giving it my NAS ip
> address is doing the trick though. In doing this, am I missing out on
> anything? Any extra connectivity feature that comes of being
> autodiscovered?
> 
> The players are all on a wi-fi (Linksys mesh setup) that's connected to
> a switch, and my NAS is connected to that same switch. So I think it
> should be discoverable. I haven't taken any advanced steps in network
> management.

There are so many members here that are better at answering your
network/LMS questions than I. @bpa is one of them. Lets hope a few chime
in.

You really shouldn't need to use remote library, that's for...remote
libraries.

There are two connection points, your network, then LMS, lose your
network and lose LMS. Do your players connect to your network but not
LMS? I had problems with receivers on wifi that would not connect or
drop. Ethernet solved that (for the receivers).

You could just try an ethernet cable on the same switch network as your
nas, just to see if it behaves. Like @bpa said, the players should
discover LMS on their own. If you do try ethernet, with the radio (and
touch?) you may need to go into settings to switch. Not sure if the
power/+ will reset that. Not sure about alot of things actually ;)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No players connecting to LMS

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


In rereading the first post, I don't see any indication that you
confirmed that LMS is running? @bpa, is there a way to do that other
than the UI or a player? Maybe find the ip address and add :9000/? and
see if the UI pops up?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No players connecting to LMS

2022-03-18 Thread Redrum


I read your post earlier and since I didn't have a definitive answer, I
thought I would just let one of the heavy hitters (the ones who know)
chime in...:)

You should not need to use remote libraries. You also really should not
need to have the mysb.com integration working to use lms.

Really, when a player comes up, it should "find" LMS as long as it's on
the same network, and it's not looking for something else (like your old
network).

It has been a while bringing a touch into the mix, but I do it all the
time with radios, so give this a try -

make sure LMS is running
full power off your radio (blank screen)
press and hold '+' then press and hold power until the buttons flash,
screen comes up.
go through the setup, pick your network, then it should connect to your
LMS. Like you said "my music" should take you there.

This way you can test the players connection to the network, then LMS,
and see where it fails, if it does.

with the mysb.com integration (separate subject) I always test by going
to favorites->on mysb.com (on player) or, switch to mysb.com is in the
menus somewhere (settings-advanced-networking?), and see if I see my
mysb.con favs (which are different). You can use my music to go back.

A couple users have had the mysb.com credentials in LMS look ok, but
when they reentered and restarted, it revealed they weren't ok.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-03-16 Thread Redrum


muggo wrote: 
> It all now appears to be working.

Happy to hear Paul. I was about to mention an option that I have used
before - get a new SD card and start over :). Sometimes when something
gets messed along the way, you don't make the same mistake the second
time, and learn something along the way!

uh oh, stuttering :eek:

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TuneIn Question

2022-03-16 Thread Redrum


Andy, I'll send you a pm to address some other items in your post, so as
not to distract from the discussion. Look for it. I say that because I
sent you a pm before, not sure if you got it :) "Notifications" right
next to "welcome "

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TuneIn Question

2022-03-16 Thread Redrum


mherger wrote: 
> 
> What exactly are you missing?

I'm not exactly sure either. Andy's first post reported an issue, where
mysb.com/LMS no longer synced favorites on desktop with LMS (i.e. you
could favorite a tune in station on your desktop/phone, and it would
show up in LMS). I did not know you could do this, so I couldn't help.

A later post he mentioned that the sync is working for Pandora, but not
Tunein, so there must be a LMS/mysb.com link established, and its
something specific to tunein?

This last post he mentioned that he cannot switch between LMS and
mysb.com, which is a whole different animal.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-03-15 Thread Redrum


muggo wrote: 
> when I take the configure LMS or LMS web page options, it refuses to
> connect.
> 

directly above those two options does it say "LMS is (or is not)
Running"? I'm betting no.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-03-15 Thread Redrum


here is what I am thinking, here's a shot of my setup regarding setting
the location where LM looks for it's data (cache and prefs)

37484

before you mount your HDD you should have one location, the pCP boot
disk. This entry should have the black selection thingie. When you mount
your HDD then you get another entry (like my "USB disk"), you can move
the LMS  data to this location, but you don't have to.

don't let my third location confuse you, I purposely created a partition
on the SD to keep my cache and prefs seperate.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-03-15 Thread Redrum


kidstypike wrote: 
> What kind of disc is this? Sounds like there's not enough power to spin
> it up. Can you power it from a powered hub?

Im probably wrong, but I am reading it differently. To me it seems like
LMS doesn't start because it can't find it's prefs or cache. By default
it's on the pCP boot disk, but if it (the location) got moved to the
HDD, and it isn't there, that would cause LMS not to start.

@muggo, the last I recall was you had LMS running on pCP, and you
mounted your HDD, got samba setup, and could see it through a network
location in windows.

Then you started scanning, what happened then?

If you would like to test what @ktp is suggesting (maybe it's the
drive/power), start simple with a usb thumb drive, of a couple albums of
music, mount, scan, etc

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-03-15 Thread Redrum


muggo wrote: 
> Thanks guys
> I've mounted the USB drive as per the instructions from Redrum (thanks
> Jim)
> I'm now forced to rescan the whole library which will take an hour or
> more so I'll report back later.
> ;)

progress!

It may have been mentioned before, and it might be a bit premature, but
a few of us here use freefilesync to mirror our library after additions,
changes, etc. (there are others I have not used, rsync?)

What I do, is my primary music library, which I maintain, add to, etc
resides on my pc. I use freefilesync to maintain a mirror of the library
on the pi HDD. I also use it to mirror to another SS HDD that I take to
another location to mirror to that pi HDD.

It is a bit extra work when you add new music, say, rip a CD to PC,
freefilesync to pi HDD, rescan @ pcp.

But the nice thing is that you have backup(s) of your music library.
Similarly, I backup my PC's personal files (documents, photos, etc) to
the pi HDD using freefile sync as well. So my personal files are also
backed up.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-03-15 Thread Redrum


maybe I can offer an alternative approach to using the ip address in
explorer. I have always followed the instructions here to mount the
drive, configure samba, and create a windows network location (note the
how toos might be a bit outdated):

https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/add_usb_hdd/

The only time I have had issues it was my fault, either:
-windows cannot find network location- - I either have the server name,
or the share name, wrong. Note it is case sensitive.
-You do not have permission to access -- I don't have sambas password
set correctly, or I entered it wrong.

Here is an example from one of my setups:
37469

At the top I created two mount points to my pi connected HDD, one for
music, and one for "data" (LMS config files). The arrows show "Music".
In samba I set a server name (MoyerLMS) and a share name (MoyerLMSMusic)
along with the share path, etc. Done on pi side.

On windows, right click on "This PC" (my picture text is wrong in saying
"My computer"), add network location, enter \\\. If you don't get it right, you will get the not found error. I
think you then are asked for the un and pw, maybe when you try to access
it

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TuneIn Question

2022-03-03 Thread Redrum


andybflo wrote: 
> 
> Plus, Redrum, I think we might be neighbors-ish. I'm just north of
> Buffalo, in E Amherst... :)
> 

Wheatfield here, close to Amherst border (NF Blvd). We can meet at
Elmo's for wings! :)

There are far better members here for deciphering logs. I also never
knew you could sync TuneIn and LMS mysb.com favorites, so I am way out
of my element. I just wanted to relay a couple things. There have been
recent threads where members could not get Tidal to work and it ended up
being the mysb.com login in LMS. It looked ok, but they reentered the
credentials and restarted LMS, it solved their issue. The other thing I
just wanted to suggest is to just use LMS with sl-x.

The last thing to mention, is if something is wrong with your mysb.com
account. Michael (@mherger) could check that for you. To the best of my
knowledge - tidal, tunein, pandora, etc, you have to have an active
service account, login to each service at mysb.com using your
credentials, install the associated plugin in LMS, and make sure lms is
properly accessing mysb.com using your un and pw.

If you are not familiar with the material interface (which sl-x uses),
you should investigate, it is wonderful and adored by many :) There is
an apk available if you use android.

Hopefully someone steps in with some log diagnosis

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] TuneIn Question

2022-03-03 Thread Redrum


andybflo wrote: 
> I am signed in to both; I just changed and updated my PW on My
> Squeezebox/TuneIn. Just in case in the past nearing 20 years since I
> jumped into Squeezeboxes I might have changed it.
> 
> In LMS, I only seem to have an entry for UID under Advanced/TuneIn Radio
> (correct?), and that's populated with the correct UID.
> 
> I'll see if it's a case of operator error (me), if it updates...

Make sure that you are logged into mysb.com in LMS by actually accessing
your mysb.com favorites in LMS (in LMS Favorites->onmysb.com). Sometimes
it "looks ok" in settings/mysb.com un and pw, but it isn't. This has
tripped up a couple people. Also, I don't know what the mysb.com
integration en/dis option really does (I have it disabled), but perhaps
you could see if this has an effect.

I have an alternative idea. If I understand it, you have LMS/mysb.com
favorites that are tunein stations. You also access the tunein library
on LMS tunein "app". In addition, you use a brower (or windows/mac app?)
to log directly into tunein or your work station and manage your
favorites there (in tune in). You also access the tune in library of
stations. You want them in sync (favorites and station lists). Right?
No? :)

My thought is to stop using tunein directly on your workstation. Install
Squeezelite-X (which serves as a player, but also uses the wonderful
material UI). This way everything is on LMS/mysb.com. You have one set
of favorites. You select from one list of stations. But you still can
play audio on your sb equipment and from your workstation. In fact you
can sync them.

If I am off base with my understanding/thinking, just ignore me :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Now where was I?

2022-03-02 Thread Redrum


@troffasky - Did you ever confirm that you are seeing this on your local
library? My referencing to timeout/disconnect was really just to mention
what reliable/persistent addresses with podcast streams, which I think
it irrelevant for local (LMS->player) streaming (as mentioned
previously)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Now where was I?

2022-03-02 Thread Redrum


Just thought of something...

Are you using the power save plugin?
37390

I really don't understand the details of what "power" means, as there is
no hard power off other than press and hold or unplug. But maybe this
"power" causes the queue position to be discarded?

Note that the settings are per player

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Now where was I?

2022-03-02 Thread Redrum


troffasky wrote: 
> Yes, time offline does make a difference. This morning the one that was
> fine when I tested it is now back at 0:00. "Resume - 14 minutes left"
> works as expected.
> So I guess after some time LMS gives up on the client and forgets where
> it was. Simply suspending and resuming doesn't replicate this, it needs
> to be left suspended for a while.

Interesting. Like I mentioned, I experienced this exactly with podcasts.
Philippe's "reliable" which got integrated into LMS as the "persistent"
option, solved other podcast issues, but I can't remember if it solved
what you describe. I'll test today, and look back and see if I can find
that discussion.

I'll also test it on a long song from my library on another unused
player.

I say "interesting" because I/we had assumed that the "losing place
after extended time" was due to the http(s) connection being dropped by
the provider, but maybe (?) it's an LMS thing instead. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Now where was I?

2022-02-26 Thread Redrum


troffasky wrote: 
> Well I am trying to reproduce the issue I thought I had and of course, I
> can't. I am testing by pausing playback, suspending my machine, resuming
> it. It looks in the web interface like like it has forgotten, but then
> about 30s later it resumes from where it was [without me doing
> anything], with local files and BBC Sounds. This isn't what I thought it
> was doing.
> I am only leaving my machine suspended for about a minute or so but I
> can't see why it would make any difference how long it's off for.

If what you had observed happens with local files (your music library),
then my response/suggestion isn't relevant.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Now where was I?

2022-02-25 Thread Redrum


I don't mean to distract the conversation, but it seems like you are
indicating it happens on more than BBC sounds?

If this is the case, I had something similar with playing podcasts. I
would go halfway through the podcast, and either stopped or paused. If I
did not resume within a reasonable amount of time (say a couple hours)
the position would be lost. If I resumed right away, fine.

I "think" (not 100% sure) it was resolved with Philippe's "reliable"
plugin, which eventually got integrated into LMS. I say "think" because
it was discussed back then but I am not sure I ever tested the long
pause causing position loss. Reliable solved the bigger issue of
podcasts stopping and getting lost for no reason.

Like I said, reliable was integrated into LMS. Try
UI->settings->Advanced->Network (pull down)->Streaming Mode - select
"persistent mode".

Again, if I am steering this conversation off the road, please
disregard...but, you should use persistent mode anyhow :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Podcasts - Adding "Sing The Hours" Podcast

2022-02-24 Thread Redrum


just for grins, I changed the podcast index to gpodder and it also
worked. I noticed that it is a https url, maybe that's it if the LMS
version is quite old?

OP, what version of LMS are you on?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Podcasts - Adding "Sing The Hours" Podcast

2022-02-24 Thread Redrum


maybe djringjr is trying to manually add the url through the standard
LMS->settings->podcast interface rather than a material skin search.

However, I just tried it and was successful:
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Does my feed provider make a difference?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is it time to get rid of the Video & Photos scanner?

2022-02-23 Thread Redrum



A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116014

Question: Can we remove Video/Photo scanner support?

- Yes, I never use this feature. 
- NO! I use LMS to stream videos and photos to my TV and/or other
  streaming clients. 
- What's the media scanner? Should I try it? 
- I don't care.


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Well once upon a time it was "Squeezebox Server"
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I also recall a conversation a while back as to what the new formal name
of the acronym "LMS" should be, since the 'L' was no longer directly
involved. There were all sorts of suggestions, and we settled on the
adopted name (formal name) being simply LMS.

So, to the best of my knowledge, LMS stands for LMS. So, 'M' can be
inferred to be media or music.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is it time to get rid of the Video & Photos scanner?

2022-02-23 Thread Redrum



A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116014

Question: Can we remove Video/Photo scanner support?

- Yes, I never use this feature. 
- NO! I use LMS to stream videos and photos to my TV and/or other
  streaming clients. 
- What's the media scanner? Should I try it? 
- I don't care.


There is only one dope - me (so far at least)

I misread the poll before enough coffee, voted "No" (thinking it was
"dont use") saw the tally and realized mine was the single vote to keep
it. I then panicked, thinking you might save it for the single user that
wanted it (but really doesn't). Disregard/change my vote.

As the goalie Denis Lemiuex in the movie Slapshot would say "I feel
shame" :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.

2022-02-21 Thread Redrum


I'm not sure the OP is really taking the time to understand and try the
advice he is given. Regardless, I read back through and @Gordonb3's post
#19, second paragraph, could possibly be what is going on, why the OP
feels files are missing, needed files are being removed.

It might be worth a try to completely uninstall any instances of LMS,
even with an uninstall sw (like Revo?), reboot, reboot again :), get a
new download (download again) of 8.2 and go from there.

Also, not being on windows anymore, is the 32bit/64bit thing relevant?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.

2022-02-21 Thread Redrum


Annie Body wrote: 
> .Installing 7.9.0 and 8.2.0 on their own do not work due to missing
> files!..

Nobody else seems to be having a problem installing 8.2. That's why Robb
asked his question and I asked, where are you getting 8.2 from? Can we
start there?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-02-18 Thread Redrum


.. and I realize I missed pages of posts, and my last post seems so out
of touch with the discussion :confused: Is this the twilight zone
thread? What happened to email notifications?...oh, never mind, carry
on

Paul, buy a pie, install pcp with LMS, it will make you happy as it has
so many others :)



What's a butter pie? :confused:

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-02-18 Thread Redrum


muggo wrote: 
> Thanks Jim,
> Yes, I had noticed that due to the worldwide chip shortage I might
> struggle to get the lastest Pi.
> Until this is all over, I might have to stick with rebooting my Odroid
> server as at least it works most of the time.
> I imagine Picoreplayer is my optimum solution but I'll wait to see what
> advice I'm given.
> Cheers
> Paul

where are you located? Per @ktp above, he has a few

Otherwise, here is the picoreplayer list of pi's that will work
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/components/raspberry_pi/#models . As @ktp
mentioned, he ran LMS on a 1B+. I don't think (but also don't know) that
running LMS (streaming library or internet sources) is a heavy lift for
pi's with lower memory or speed, it's scanning that really needs the
resources.

Greg Erskine, part of the picoreplayer team, would be a good person to
reach out to for info on a pi model bare bones LMS. You could PM him. I
am thinking that old pi models would be cheap second hand.

Also, since you mentioned that someone else set up your system, I'd like
to mention that setting up a picoreplayer (lms and/or squeezelite
player) is very easy, the documentation is good, and the support from
this community is excellent.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS upgrade help please

2022-02-18 Thread Redrum


muggo wrote: 
> .
> Please can you advise me exactly what to buy? Pi4?  Version?  Operating
> environment?
> Many thanks
> Paul

Hey Paul;

You are in good hands with Ronnie. He will answer how you could add LMS
to one of your pi's running squeezelite. I can tell you how to do it if
you were running picoreplayer (which can run LMS and squeezelite), but
if you are just running sl, best for Ronnie to answer

Your previous question that was not addressed. You can run LMS on just
about anything, but, say a 3B+ or a 4B would be good choices. I have 2
systems of LMS only, one on a 3b+, one on a 4.

The problem is you can't buy them new without waiting forever, buying
kits with alot of stuff you don't need, or paying a major premium on
places like ebay. For example, a pi 3b+ is normally $35USD, They go for
about $100 on ebay, and you can buy "ultimate kits" on places like
canakit for $140.

In normal times, the members here would tell you to use a 4B because the
rescans are faster, but in these times, it might be best to find a less
desirable pi model (cheaper) to get LMS up and running and wait for the
world to come back to normal ( I could add "how much longer? but won't
:)).

I am not the guy to ask which of the oldies would work. You could also
just pay the going rate. If I didn't know I could get a 3b+ for $35, for
what it can do, I might consider $100 a great deal.

Regarding the operating system, I like picoreplayer, easy to setup, and
alot of support here. Others might prefer something else.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.

2022-02-12 Thread Redrum


@Annie Body (great screen name btw!)

How about we start with where you are getting the LMS 8.2 download from.
Can you supply a link?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-10 Thread Redrum


Man in a van wrote: 
> Leave it out!!!
> 
> ronnie :p:)

wow, this might be the first time I have ever seen a video posted. Think
of the possibilities! Members with problems filming and posting their
futility, rather than describing it in print and pictures:p

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I sometimes wonder why I bother with a sound system [emoji1787]
> 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-09 Thread Redrum


@slarti..

I just bought a used copy of Zaireeka on ebay (cheap - $6USD), so, while
I wait for my copy to travel, figure this out and I'll give it a try!
:)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Starting multiple players simultaneously

2022-02-08 Thread Redrum


I thought this would be fun to play with, then I realized I don't own it
:( I have an already mixed version. Didn't realize I had that until I
looked!

One thought to simplify - mix each disk 1-4 down to mono, then mix 1/2
and 3/4 into stereo. Use 4 radios (A-D), setup to use a pair of radios
to play stereo. So 1/2->Radio A (L) Radio B(R), 3/4->Radio C (L), Radio
D (R)

Then you only have to start the two pairs of radios together.

But, while I do have 4 radios, I don't have the media

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.

2022-01-27 Thread Redrum


agbagb wrote: 
> I never really knew that!  I do habitually re-boot, though I never
> really knew why!  Very useful to tuck away, that advice - thanks!

Agree, this has been a good read, thanks Jim and @Gordonb3.

But I think we lost the OP @Annie Body, perhaps because the issue is
resolved? Please post back with how you made out, it might help someone
else in the future.

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.

2022-01-26 Thread Redrum


agbagb wrote: 
> As a dedicated Windows user, I don't have much to add to what's already
> been said as to trying a completely clean install of the latest LMS
> version.  But I would add this - I've used LMS and Squeezeboxes of one
> sort or another for *decades* on Windows (currently 11) with hardly any
> problems whatsoever.  So, while I in no way decry the moves some make to
> Pi systems etc, there is currently no reason whatever why you should not
> get a fully working, fully reliable, PC-based LMS world.  It's annoying
> to you (and others here!) that it's not working for you just now - but
> the issue is just not inherent to Windows, as some seem sometimes to
> suggest.

I agree 100% with most of this, but if your comment at the end that
"some seem to suggest" Windows is the problem is just not true. Every
post suggested that a clean install should work, but maybe getting the
tray icon would take a bit of twiddling, but as @gordon b3 suggested
(and others as well) the tray icon is irrelevant. Before i ditched
running LMS on windows, I do remember this icon disappearing as well. It
might have been because of an update, or win 7 to win 10, can't
remember, but I have seen what the OP reports. But it just doesn't
matter.

I apologize if my disdain for windows led anyone to think that I was
saying that the OS was the culprit. It was not my intent, but  I am sure there are many others that lived through the
blue screen of death, which they changed to the black screen of death,
which has now morphed to the endless message "windows is trying to
repair your computer" can agree that it is a poorly developed and
frustrating product .

I have 4 windows machines I need to keep running, and I swear I rebuild
one every year. I just finished a 8 hour "windows is repairing your
computer" that actually worked! It uninstalled a recent update that had
black screened my computer. Yes, I have "move to linux" on my list :)

I do hope the OP posts back and tells us that he is up and running :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Has Stopped Working. Cannot Get It Working Again.

2022-01-25 Thread Redrum


Annie Body wrote: 
> Originally posted this on the Squeezebox forum. Moved to here following
> a feedback suggestion.
> 
> I had to restore a Win 10 backup due to one of the regular problems
> with it not working!
> After which I noticed the Tray Icon was not appearing after restart
> any more.
> As everything looked fine I decide to uninstall then reinstall.
> .

I am not a windows expert, more of a victim. I moved to a raspberry pi
for LMS (as suggested) and have not looked back.

But, having run LMS on windows I have seen your initial problem.
Especially "where is the icon"? I assume after your first install LMS
ran? Did you look to see if the LMS icon in the tray was hidden (click
the '^'). If so, you can choose to "show" the icon (right click
'^'->taskbar settings->notification area).

Also, it seems to me that "administrator" restrictions are worse in
win10 than win7. I am always logged in as an administrator, yet I run
into all sorts of issues that boil down to having to right click->run as
administrator. Freefilesync is an example, where it didn't use to
happen.

as @bpa suggests, clean up the mess and start with a fresh install of
8.2 making sure you are logged in as an administrator, then explicitly
install and run as an administrator. Then as @slarti suggests, get on a
preorder list for a raspberry pi 3b+ or 4, power supply, case, micro SD
and whatever storage you need. 

Every time you have an opportunity to disconnect your life and happiness
from windows is time and $ well spent. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS into DLNA/UPNP end point: Real world experiences

2021-12-28 Thread Redrum


philippe_44 wrote: 
> . So you end up with crappy SW created by monkeys (and there a lot of
> these in sw, they are just randomly typing on keyboards hoping for
> something to happen).

Thanks for the laugh out loud! I once worked with a person who felt if
her code (written in 'C') compiled, then it was done. She also would
create endless nests of IF-THEN-ELSE rather than a CASE structure.
Thanks for bringing back that memory :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Touchscreen display for piCorePlayer

2021-12-27 Thread Redrum


I have been thinking of doing something similar, so I bought a Amazon
Fire 8" tablet I didn't need on Black Friday for, I think about $60USD
(currently about 90). You can currently get the 7" one for about $50.
The Fire tablets are inexpensive in part because Amazon is selling you
an Amazon promotion and advertisement machine. 

You can (I have) use the XDA Developers "Fire Toolkit" to "de-amazon"
the tablet and return it close to stock android. Installed the Material
apk from F-Droid and I have it laying around in my main listening area
to use as a squeezebox UI. 

You can modify it via developer options to stay awake, or, I believe
there are non root options to have a "tap or swipe to wake" out
there...

My thought was to have it in a box with a pi, build the box to allow the
charger micro USB to be inserted in the side (maybe a right angle
adaptor). The only other challenge is if you leave it always on, or have
a screensaver with tap or swipe to wake it. I haven't really tried to
think that through yet as I haven't started the project, especially with
rpi's in short supply. I think Ideally I would want it to remain on
while playing, screensaver otherwise. Haven't looked into how to do
that.

The nice thing is the Material interface is wonderful (thanks again
Craig!) and you also have a fully functioning tablet on the wall to be
able to pop up weather, or whatever in addition to your sb control.

Jim



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