Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Dne 17.10.2009 3:46, Russell napsal(a): As an open source initiative I would wonder why anyone would want to remove choices and force an 'all or nothing' approach? That's more typical of companies like A$$ple, Micro$$oft and Ado$$e who use that to lock users into using only their product and make themselves wealthier as a result. It would be sad if the final release of SM 2.0 did not offer the same tradition of choice as in the past. Exactly my words, thak you Russell for saying that, now I see I'm not the only one with that opinion. I understand that SM is suite. I already reconciled with grinding my teeth that there would be no way _not_ to install the internal e-mail client (and don't say something about disk space, because it is not about disk space, it is like the inability to remove radio from my car and when I want to use another, I just install it and cover the first one with towel), but the inability _not to use_ the internal mail client drives me crazy and makes me more like leaving SM at all. Still no success with network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto, even when I set another mail client as default, mailto links in SM (2 RC2) still launches mail wizard from SM. Sad. Anyway, many thanks to all developers of SM for the big work that has been done on SM 2.0. (w) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
WIFT schrieb: I understand that SM is suite. I already reconciled with grinding my teeth that there would be no way _not_ to install the internal e-mail client (and don't say something about disk space, because it is not about disk space, it is like the inability to remove radio from my car and when I want to use another, I just install it and cover the first one with towel), but the inability _not to use_ the internal mail client drives me crazy and makes me more like leaving SM at all. Still no success with network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto, even when I set another mail client as default, mailto links in SM (2 RC2) still launches mail wizard from SM. Sad. If you performed all necessary steps and it doesn't work you should think about filing a bug. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Lucas Levrel wrote: This said, I think installing the whole SM2 will be fine for everyone if mailto: links still can be directed to an external application. Disk space is not much of a concern on recent platforms. I agree with this. Personally, I use Seamonkey for newsgroups, but not for email, so don't want it handling mailto: even though I want the mail/news support installed. My wife strongly dislikes Firefox's user interface and uses Seamonkey with only the browser installed. In her case, having mail/news installed will add a few insignificant MB to the install, but won't otherwise affect her - unless it takes over mail functions that 1.x doesn't. Graham. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Russell wrote: And there are many users like myself who simply do NOT like the look and feel of Firefox. Perhaps it's the interests of the Firefox developers that's behind this move? Only if you don't believe that the SeaMonkey team can have its own agenda and think for itself. You might not share that belief, though. Not permitting Seamonkey to work without hijacking the system email will certainly reduce its user base (I would leave as will many others I know) and drive Seamonkey even more quickly into oblivion. That would be a shame. So you seem to convince it will be driven into oblivion some time anyhow. I for one do not want to support that mindset. That said, feel free to do the work and provide patches for making the option you want available in the new toolkit-based environment we have uplifted SeaMonkey to because we wanted to ensure survival of the suite concept more than preserving every single option it might have had in some distant past. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Le 17 octobre 2009, Robert Kaiser a écrit : That said, feel free to do the work and provide patches for making the option you want available in the new toolkit-based environment we have uplifted SeaMonkey to because we wanted to ensure survival of the suite concept more than preserving every single option it might have had in some distant past. Although I understand you may have been shocked by Russell saying Seamonkey is going into oblivion, your last phrase sounds disdainful : Seamonkey does offer in its last stable version the option to install only parts of it. Also, have you changed your mind since you stated the following? Le 14 octobre 2009, Robert Kaiser a écrit : We should make it easy to use other news readers from all I know, as for the mail things, I need to defer to people knowing more about that than I do. --- This said, I think installing the whole SM2 will be fine for everyone if mailto: links still can be directed to an external application. Disk space is not much of a concern on recent platforms. Best regards. -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
NoOp wrote: Perhaps 'network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto - true' should be either included as an option in the Edit|Preferences|Mail Newsgroups or Edit|Preferences|Browser? If at all only in the former, it's about MailNews, not the browser component. You may file an enhancement bug for that. :-) This should probably be accompanied by a short Help entry that states that this only works if SeaMonkey is *not* set as the system's default mail application. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. Robert Kaiser Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and won't (and shouldn't have to) change. Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here. Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality. -JW If what Robert says holds true, I would think the instructions for a Browser only installation would be easy...USE FIREFOX!!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: I want to continue using another newsreader and am very happy with my email software (Pegasus) and do not like Firefox compared to Seamonkey. We should make it easy to use other news readers from all I know, as for the mail things, I need to defer to people knowing more about that than I do. Robert Kaiser For what it's worth, Robert, I disagree with youthis time!! Why should SeaMonkey developers provide an easy means of using another program to do what SM can do?? If somebody wants a Browser Only application, why not use a Browser Only application in the first place?? (To the SM developers, Keep up the good work, your efforts are appreciated!!) Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:51:23 +1000, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Why should SeaMonkey developers provide an easy means of using another program to do what SM can do?? If somebody wants a Browser Only application, why not use a Browser Only application in the first place?? Because afaik Seamonkey was simply a continuation of a tradition that began with Mozilla and then Netscape. Netscape also offered an email client that could be used or not, as the user wished. This same philosophy of 'choice' has continued right up to today with the current version (v1.18) of Seamonkey. As an open source initiative I would wonder why anyone would want to remove choices and force an 'all or nothing' approach? That's more typical of companies like A$$ple, Micro$$oft and Ado$$e who use that to lock users into using only their product and make themselves wealthier as a result. It would be sad if the final release of SM 2.0 did not offer the same tradition of choice as in the past. And there are many users like myself who simply do NOT like the look and feel of Firefox. Perhaps it's the interests of the Firefox developers that's behind this move? Not permitting Seamonkey to work without hijacking the system email will certainly reduce its user base (I would leave as will many others I know) and drive Seamonkey even more quickly into oblivion. That would be a shame. Russell ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
KristleBawl wrote: Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote: Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Hi KristleBawl, I celebrated too soon... :-( I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. Still launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links. Have you tried the above with success? Russell. After the above, make sure Seamonkey is *not* the default mail client (it probably becomes default during installation) and open your preferred mail client and reset it as the default. It should work. When I open Help and look at Mail Newsgroups Preferences, it states, in part: Use SeaMonkey Mail as the default mail application: Select SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups as the default mail application for Windows and from within other applications such as Microsoft Word. Note: Setting SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups as the default mail application may disable another mail application. To restore the other mail application as the default, deselect this option. All of the options are grayed out and cannot be deselected. If this option worked as advertised in the Help section, would that not solve Russell's problem without resorting to about:config? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
KristleBawl wrote: Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_. Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my usual email programme... so far no luck. Russell Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Default mail client http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client how to disable mail in SeaMonkey 2.0a2pre http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=942055 How do I make Mozilla not use its own email client when clicking on an email link? http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_use.html#externalmail That works _great_, Kristle - thanks! Here's hoping it (or something like it) continues to work for 2.x. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/14/2009 8:12 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. Robert Kaiser How then do I continue to use Eudora for E-mail and Thunderbird for newsgroups? I use a very old version of Eudora because it has features that I don't see in any newer E-mail applications. I use Thunderbird so that I can switch browser profiles without switching newsreader profiles. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/14/2009 9:09 AM, David Wilkinson wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and won't (and shouldn't have to) change. Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here. Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality. -JW No offense, but if you only want the browser component, why don't you just use FireFox? Surely, most people use SeaMonkey precisely because it contains browser, mail and news (and now RSS) in a single application. Or is it that you use ChatZilla or Composer? I never use those, so they are not important in my decision to use SeaMonkey. I don't use Firefox because it has bugs that I don't see in SeaMonkey. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/14/2009 9:37 PM, KristleBawl wrote: Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote: Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Hi KristleBawl, I celebrated too soon... :-( I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. Still launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links. Have you tried the above with success? Russell. After the above, make sure Seamonkey is *not* the default mail client (it probably becomes default during installation) and open your preferred mail client and reset it as the default. It should work. If user.js still works with SM 2, set the preferences there instead of using about:config. With SM 1.1.x, this is a text file. Whatever installed default setting SeaMonkey has for a preference, user.js overrides it. The format is user_pref(network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto, true); The semi-colon at the end is required; many users forget it and then wonder why it doesn't work. Making this work also requires completely terminating SeaMonkey and then restarting it. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:43:07 -0700, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote: If user.js still works with SM 2 Did a search of the Seamonkey install folder and user.js does not exist R ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/15/09 19:11, Russell wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:43:07 -0700, David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid wrote: If user.js still works with SM 2 Did a search of the Seamonkey install folder and user.js does not exist R That doesn't necessarily mean it's not used by SM 2.0, as it is a user-created file. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Daniel schrieb: Russell wrote: I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In previous SM releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature as I prefer to use another email client. With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's asking me to setup my Seamonkey email service. How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I prefer? I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well. Thanks Russell Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a mailnews agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's inbuilt mail agent. If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how you achieved that!! He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy. The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default handles mailto-links internally. I never tried that and I'm unsure if it works but maybe those preferences could help Russel: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.(protocol) http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.app.(protocol) regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:56:19 +0200, Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote: He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy. The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default handles mailto-links internally. Exactly. Previous versions allowed you to install only those parts you wanted via the Custom install option. I might have to uninstall the 2.0 beta if an easy solution isn't there yet. I really would prefer not to have to muck with the Registry which seems to be what the following suggests I'd have to do: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. Russell ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. Robert Kaiser Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and won't (and shouldn't have to) change. Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here. Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. Robert Kaiser FWIW, I don't think it should! Why have a suite if you only want to use half of it? There are rational alternatives... keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and won't (and shouldn't have to) change. Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here. Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality. -JW No offense, but if you only want the browser component, why don't you just use FireFox? Surely, most people use SeaMonkey precisely because it contains browser, mail and news (and now RSS) in a single application. Or is it that you use ChatZilla or Composer? I never use those, so they are not important in my decision to use SeaMonkey. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Keith Whaley wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. Robert Kaiser FWIW, I don't think it should! Why have a suite if you only want to use half of it? There are rational alternatives... Because not every user in a group situation will want exactly the same thing. As I said before, my wife uses only the browser (which she's very happy with, with Outlook as the mail client), while I use the entire suite (which _I'm_ very happy with). It's convenient for me that we're both using Seamonkey, as I can parallel updates between our machines, doing the Browser only install for her; if her partial usage of the suite is no longer allowed, then I'll be switching to something else for _both_ of us, for simplicity's sake. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and won't (and shouldn't have to) change. Actually, make that _two_ customers, because if I have to find and support some other browser-only solution for her, then I'll probably change to something else myself, in my never-ending attempt to minimize the number of different apps I have to keep track of around here. Please, PLEASE, reconsider removing the Browser only install option. Or please, make sure instructions are available for whatever registry hack (ugh) is required to restore that functionality. -JW Have you tried Firefox lately? The current version is very stable and easily customized, just like the Seamonkey browser. I first switched from IE8 to Firefox and love it. Then I tried Thunderbird and decided I like it much better than Windows Mail in Vista, which is being discontinued in favor of Windows Live Mail. I'm currently considering the pros and cons of switching from Firefox and Thunderbird to Seamonkey. -- KristleBawl ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:12:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. That's ok if there's an easy to find preference setting that allows me to not use it. Netscape also offered an email component that could be ignored if not needed. I prefer the Seamonkey browser to Firefox and will be very disappointed to say goodbye to it after so many years of using it. Before that I used Netscape and Seamonkey offered a very similar UI with better security. I want to continue using another newsreader and am very happy with my email software (Pegasus) and do not like Firefox compared to Seamonkey. Let's hope someone comes up with a workaround, or I know a LOT of folks who I've convinced to use Seamonkey who'll also be looking for another alternative once v1.18 is no longer an option. Russell ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Then you will lose at least one customer - my wife, for whom I've been doing the Browser only install. She's come to love Seamonkey, but she's been using Outlook as a mail client for umphteen years now, and won't (and shouldn't have to) change. It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_. Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my usual email programme... so far no luck. Russell ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Russell wrote: I want to continue using another newsreader and am very happy with my email software (Pegasus) and do not like Firefox compared to Seamonkey. We should make it easy to use other news readers from all I know, as for the mail things, I need to defer to people knowing more about that than I do. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/13/2009 11:56 PM, Martin Freitag wrote: Daniel schrieb: Russell wrote: I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In previous SM releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature as I prefer to use another email client. With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's asking me to setup my Seamonkey email service. How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I prefer? I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well. Thanks Russell Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a mailnews agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's inbuilt mail agent. If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how you achieved that!! He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy. The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default handles mailto-links internally. I never tried that and I'm unsure if it works but maybe those preferences could help Russel: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.(protocol) http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.app.(protocol) regards Martin I just tested on a Win2KPro VM I see what Russell is referring to. In the test profile I've not set up the email client (2.0rc1) and to test I also set MS Outlook in the system to be my default email client. I then when to: http://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss/ and clicked on disc...@mozdev.org. Rather than SeaMonkey launching the prefered (for this test case) system email client, I get the SeaMonkey Account setup wizard. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091007 SeaMonkey/2.0 I then did the same in FireFox: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 and that _did_ try to open an Outlook mail window. Note: so that folks don't get too excited, I also tested the same using Thunderbird (3.x) as the default email client. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090925 Lightning/1.0pre Shredder/3.0pre Out of curiosity I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) and the same problem occurs there as well, so it's not just 2.0(x) that does not allow using an alternate email application. Note: I'd never encountered this before as I've always just had SeaMonkey set as my default email client for as long as I can remember. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell wrote: Perhaps someone will jump in with an easy fix. I do hope the final release offers the same install flexibility as did the previous versions. SeaMonkey 2.x will not allow installing without the mailnews component. This is removing stupidly a perfect suitable option ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote: Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Thanks KristleBawl :-)) Russell ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote: Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Thanks KristleBawl :-)) Russell You're most welcome! :-) -- KristleBawl ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
NoOp wrote: On 10/14/2009 03:47 PM, KristleBawl wrote: Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_. Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my usual email programme... so far no luck. Russell Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Default mail client http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client how to disable mail in SeaMonkey 2.0a2pre http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=942055 How do I make Mozilla not use its own email client when clicking on an email link? http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_use.html#externalmail KristleBawl rocks wins the WTHeck? cookie for the day! Just tested it works. Perhaps 'network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto - true' should be either included as an option in the Edit|Preferences|Mail Newsgroups or Edit|Preferences|Browser? I'd like that framed and mounted on my wall! ;-) -- KristleBawl ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/14/2009 05:23 PM, KristleBawl wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/14/2009 03:47 PM, KristleBawl wrote: Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:17:13 +0200, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: It doesn't mean you need to _use_ the mail component if it's _installed_. Still looking for an easy way to get mailto links in webpages to open with my usual email programme... so far no luck. Russell Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Default mail client http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client how to disable mail in SeaMonkey 2.0a2pre http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=942055 How do I make Mozilla not use its own email client when clicking on an email link? http://mozilla.gunnars.net/mozfaq_use.html#externalmail KristleBawl rocks wins the WTHeck? cookie for the day! Just tested it works. Perhaps 'network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto - true' should be either included as an option in the Edit|Preferences|Mail Newsgroups or Edit|Preferences|Browser? I'd like that framed and mounted on my wall! ;-) Not until you change: User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) w/ SeaMonkey :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
NoOp wrote: On 10/13/2009 11:56 PM, Martin Freitag wrote: Daniel schrieb: Russell wrote: I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In previous SM releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature as I prefer to use another email client. With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's asking me to setup my Seamonkey email service. How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I prefer? I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well. Thanks Russell Russell, it is my understanding that as SeaMonkey Suite includes a mailnews agent, SeaMonkey's first mail call will always be to it's inbuilt mail agent. If you've been using just the browser portion of SeaMonkey and getting it to call another, separate, mail agent, I'd be interested to here how you achieved that!! He dismissed the mail-part n the Seamonkey setup, it's that easy. The problem is that Seamonkey 2.0 does not allow that and by default handles mailto-links internally. I never tried that and I'm unsure if it works but maybe those preferences could help Russel: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.external.(protocol) http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.protocol-handler.app.(protocol) regards Martin I just tested on a Win2KPro VM I see what Russell is referring to. In the test profile I've not set up the email client (2.0rc1) and to test I also set MS Outlook in the system to be my default email client. I then when to: http://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss/ and clicked on disc...@mozdev.org. Rather than SeaMonkey launching the prefered (for this test case) system email client, I get the SeaMonkey Account setup wizard. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091007 SeaMonkey/2.0 I then did the same in FireFox: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 and that _did_ try to open an Outlook mail window. Note: so that folks don't get too excited, I also tested the same using Thunderbird (3.x) as the default email client. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090925 Lightning/1.0pre Shredder/3.0pre Out of curiosity I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) and the same problem occurs there as well, so it's not just 2.0(x) that does not allow using an alternate email application. Note: I'd never encountered this before as I've always just had SeaMonkey set as my default email client for as long as I can remember. I beg to differ. In my office, I installed the Browser only component of Seamonkey 1.1.8. I need to use Outlook for the office Exchange Server. If I click on a mailto: link, it correctly launches Outlook. Of course, since the Seamonkey mail/news client isn't installed it really doesn't have a choice, does it? -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On 10/14/2009 06:50 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Out of curiosity I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) and the same problem occurs there as well, so it's not just 2.0(x) that does not allow using an alternate email application. Note: I'd never encountered this before as I've always just had SeaMonkey set as my default email client for as long as I can remember. ... I beg to differ. In my office, I installed the Browser only component of Seamonkey 1.1.8. I need to use Outlook for the office Exchange Server. If I click on a mailto: link, it correctly launches Outlook. Of course, since the Seamonkey mail/news client isn't installed it really doesn't have a choice, does it? Perhaps you need to attend the same reading comprehension classes that I do on occasion :-) quote I then installed 1.1.17 (complete) /quote ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote: Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Hi KristleBawl, I celebrated too soon... :-( I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. Still launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links. Have you tried the above with success? Russell. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
Russell wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:47:06 -0400, KristleBawl kristleb...@some.email wrote: Open about:config (type it in your address bar and press Enter) Proceed past the warning. Right-click somewhere in the list, and choose New Boolean. Enter network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto as the name and set the value to true. Hi KristleBawl, I celebrated too soon... :-( I reinstalled Seamonkey 2 RC thinking that the above would work and I could start using it for day-to-day browsing. But for some reason it does not. Still launches its built-in email client when clicking on mailto links. Have you tried the above with success? Russell. After the above, make sure Seamonkey is *not* the default mail client (it probably becomes default during installation) and open your preferred mail client and reset it as the default. It should work. -- KristleBawl ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey v2 RC - How to disable email feature?
I really like the Seamonkey browser and have used it for years. In previous SM releases I could do a custom install and not install the email feature as I prefer to use another email client. With Seamonkey v2 RC's custom install there's no option to omit the email component and now every time I click on an email link in SM it's asking me to setup my Seamonkey email service. How can I get rid of this and have my email open in the application I prefer? I'm using XP, but assume this issue exists with Vista as well. Thanks Russell ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
