Re[2]: Some questions about 1.36
Hi Steve Lamb, On Montag, 11. Oktober 1999 at 10:07:04 you wrote: SL Monday, October 11, 1999, 1:01:26 AM, Ali wrote: OS 1) What do I do with %REGEXPTEXT %REGEXPQUOTES macros ? I do suspect that these macros should change the quoting prefix, although I didn't check it myself. I tried them and can't seem to get them to do change the quote prefix. Probably they're for some other mysterious purpose but I'd sure like to know since I may find use for them. SL The answer is in the changes log. They have added Perl style regular SL expressions to certain areas of TB!. Regular expressions (regexp) are SL patterns that match against text and allow for the inclusion or exclusion of SL said text in a very powerful manner. Anyone who has done any work on unix SL with either grep, perl or sed will know what regexps do and will most likely SL be doing the jig next to their keyboard when they find out they are in TB!. Well, I know something about regular expressions and I'd sure like to use them (actually got them to work in the inbox filters), but I still can't imagine what exactly these macros might be for. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Some questions about 1.36
Hi Andrew K. Lovetski, On Montag, 11. Oktober 1999 at 13:15:53 you wrote: 2) If I create a new message, enter some text and close the window, why is that question asking me whether to trash my changes in russian (or some other language I can't read)? AKL If you have International Pack installed, then update your .LNG file - AKL download it from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html An old LNG AKL file is often the cause of such troubles. If you don't have any .LNG AKL file in The Bat! directory, then I cannot imagine any cause for the AKL behavior described. Well, I had the newest language pack installed already, but after reinstalling it (after the update to 1.36), the russian (or whatever) message vanished. 4) Why does it say "Entering an _indexed_ folder is 2-4 times faster"? I didn't know yet there was something like an indexed folder as opposed to a non-indexed folder?! AKL Oleg Zalyalov wrote: I did understand that phrase as follows: now folders are indexed and that makes TB! to open them 2-4 times faster. I don't know whether it is a real fact or a result of suggestion, but it seems to me really working faster. They do work faster. I have some folders containing several hundred messages and they definitely open faster. Thank god for that!!! ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Some questions about 1.36
Hi Steve Lamb, On Dienstag, 12. Oktober 1999 at 17:47:00 you wrote: SL Tuesday, October 12, 1999, 2:20:53 AM, Oleg wrote: I believe it can be very useful if you are answering a standard letter, where it is easy to select a text which have to be quoted. Anyway, did anybody try this already and can provide an example? SL Another good example would be to automatically remove quoted material in SL your quote by excluding any line that starts with . :) Hm. Nice. ;) I think those are good examples of how to use regular expressions... but since hearing about them in The Bat!, I've been thinking about what exactly to do with them. I don't usually receive mail that is so very standardized that I could use regular expressions to filter the quotation... Ok, you might say, just don't use them. I was just wondering... I know you can do a LOT of nice things with regexps, so I'd really like to use them in some way ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: PGP Check Signature does not work
Hi Oliver Sturm, On Montag, 11. Oktober 1999 at 19:44:01 you wrote: n i'm using PGP 6.0.2i and the PGP 6.0.x/6.5.x plug-in but "check n digital signature" does not work. all i get is an empty "PGPlog" n window. anyone else with the same problems? OS I have exactly the same problem using PGP 6.0.2i business security. Replying to myself...tsts. I just found out I can't get The Bat! to check a PGP-signed mail automatically. PGP has an option saying something like "decrypt/verify automatically" (I don't know the exact text in english), but it doesn't seem to do anything. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Text files as attachments
Hi there, several times I have received mail coming from a lotus notes account with one or more text files attached. I don't know if the lotus notes part is important here. The Bat! doesn't show me those attachments in that separate little attachment window like usual, but instead there are several of those little watchacallthem... not buttons... at the bottom of the window, like when receiving html-text-mail. Now, I can't directly save those attachments to somewhere, because there seems to be no "save file"-dialog anywhere. Any ideas? Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
How to use the name prefix
Hi there, in the address book, I can enter a name prefix for an address. I can't find out how I can use that prefix when creating a new message or replying to one. I'd like my message to say something like "Dear Mr. Jones" or "Dear Mrs. Harris" automatically, using the name prefix from the address book entry. Has anyone done that? If it doesn't work, what's that name prefix for? Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 and would like to report a bug The bug description: For some reason, The Bat! creates continuous disk access while running idle. I tested this on two different machines with Windows NT 4.0, to the same effect. I used a file system monitor and found out that the only disk access seems to be to the file thebat.IPC (which is for sending commands to The Bat!, as I learned). Two or three days ago, I submitted some Delphi source code to TBUDL which monitors a directory on a disk without creating any apparent disk access all the time. Here is a copy: procedure WaitForCommandFileToAppear; var h: HANDLE; theend: boolean; begin h := FindFirstChangeNotification (THEBATROOTDIR + '\Commandfiles', false, FILE_NOTIFY_CHANGE_LAST_WRITE); theend := false; repeat if WaitForSingleObject (h, 1000) WAIT_TIMEOUT then begin TriggerWhateverAction; FindNextChangeNotification (h); end else begin if mylittleterminationflag then theend := true; end; until theend = true; FindCloseChangeNotification (h); end; As I wrote in the original mail, this probably won't work out of the box, as I just hacked it in. Of course one difference would be the use of a directory instead of a file, but that shouldn't be of any practical concern. Someone who needs backward compatibility could always create a link to the command file in the bat root directory. Steps to reproduce the bug: Leave The Bat! running while the machine does nothing else at that time. Sit down, read a book, drink some tea and listen to your machine scratching away happily on the disk every some seconds. Regards, Oliver Sturm -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Text files as attachments
Hi Alexander V. Kiselev, On Dienstag, 12. Oktober 1999 at 22:09:53 you wrote: AVK Hi there! AVK On 12 Oct 99, at 19:09, Oliver Sturm wrote AVK about "Text files as attachments": The Bat! doesn't show me those attachments in that separate little attachment window like usual, but instead there are several of those little watchacallthem... not buttons... at the bottom of the window, like when receiving html-text-mail. AVK Tabs? Hey good, I should have thought of that ;) Now, I can't directly save those attachments to Hey goosomewhere, Hey because there seems to be no "save file"-dialog anywhere. Any ideas? AVK Absolutely no:-( Thanks anyway! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 and would like to report a bug The bug description: Using auto-format mode, I can't create any newlines. If I type the return key, the cursor correctly goes to the next line, but if I continue typing, it goes back to the previous line. You can easily see an example of the bug in this very paragraph. Steps to reproduce the bug: Regards, Oliver Sturm -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Text files as attachments
Hi LCB, On Dienstag, 12. Oktober 1999 at 23:31:52 you wrote: L On 10/12/1999 you may have mentioned: I don't know if the lotus notes part is important here. L BINGO!! Our SUN systems have the same problem with mail coming from L Lotus Notes domain. It is not a TB! problem. We had to set up as L special server to preprocess any mail coming from a NOTES machine to L properly reformat the headers for the SUNS. However, if the SUN is L using TriTeal's dtmail, it could handle the Notes mail fine (but the L other SUNs could not read TriTeal's mail attachments.) Okay, so the Lotus Notes part IS important. But it's still a problem with The Bat!, as I just don't manage to save those attachments without having to copy and paste them in windows notepad. And they are attachments alrightm not just parts of the main message or something like that. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: How to use the name prefix
Hi DINH Frederic, On Mittwoch, 13. Oktober 1999 at 11:26:48 you wrote: DF Oliver wrote: OS in the address book, I can enter a name prefix for an address. I OS can't find out how I can use that prefix when creating a new OS message or replying to one. I'd like my message to say something OS like "Dear Mr. Jones" or "Dear Mrs. Harris" automatically, using OS the name prefix from the address book entry. Has anyone done OS that? If it doesn't work, what's that name prefix for? DF I suppose it's just another address book, if you don't have one DF already. That seems to be it. Hm, nobody about USING that prefix for something nice? Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Text files as attachments
Hi Alexander V. Kiselev, On Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 1999 at 0:23:38 you wrote: AVK It's not really related to Lotus *that* much, I think. It will AVK work this way with any other e-mail app (I can reproduce it with AVK sending *.txt files with Pegasus Mail and then reading them with AVK TB, FYI) provided that it says Content-type: text/plain n the AVK subheaders of this textual attachment, as I've already written in AVK one of my previous messages. Wow, looking at the above quoted block, I really start disliking that really comfortable auto-format behaviour I already wrote about ;) AVK Actually, I like this behaviour very much (i.e., displaying the AVK contents of textual attachments on the tabs), coz otherwise one AVK would need to double-click on such attachment in the attchments AVK area --- and all that only to have Notepad launched... Yes, I really like the tab part, too. AVK The only problem is saving such attachments --- this is clearly AVK a oversight on the part of programmers, hope it will be fixed AVK some day:-) Well, let's hope for that! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Suggestion: Makro Male / Female
Hi Bernd Bubis, On Dienstag, 19. Oktober 1999 at 12:57:43 you wrote: BB To customize for this I suggest macros of BB the form BB %TO-FEMALE1 BB %TO-FEMALE2 BB %TO-FEMALE3 BB %TO-MALE1 BB %TO-MALE2 BB %TO-MALE3 BB while in the Options Menu you can choose what BB strings to put in case of male or female persons. BB (I used numbers 1 to 3, so one is not limited to BB a single string for males or females) I second that. But, as I recently wrote, I think the address prefix wich I can enter in the address book, should also be used. But I didn't think of the different styles you mentioned, so your idea is obviously more complete. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On Sonntag, 24. Oktober 1999 at 14:33:17 you wrote: Steps to reproduce the bug: Use auto-format when editing a reply. You're bound to hit it sometime! It's almost impossible not to. ;-) Seriously though, just reply with Auto-format on and try typing in a line above a quoted paragraph. AM But Mark, many have mentioned this problem before and have been told AM that it's a feature and not a bug. ;-) MDP Yes, but not to an accurate definition of how to fix it. I think we MDP can achieve this from here. MDP It's where two consecutive paragraphs are merged when there is no MDP clear line between them. I am refining the definition to say that it MDP right sometimes, but not when dealing with two differing quote MDP prefixed paragraphs. Well, I wrote about that also, and I still can't see, why that should be a feature in any way. But it's very easy to resolve. It should be an option to select whether to use one or two newlines as a paragraph separation. What I have noticed as well is that even if I type something just _before_ a paragraph, the first line of the paragraph is reformatted. I do really expect the editor to leave the lines _behind_ what I'm typing intact in any case. If I really want some paragraph to be completely reformatted, I'd happily tell the editor to do so manually. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Autoformat (was: Re[4]: The Bat! - bug report)
Hi Thomas Fernandez, On Montag, 25. Oktober 1999 at 3:42:23 you wrote: OS Well, I wrote about that also, and I still can't see, why that should OS be a feature in any way. But it's very easy to resolve. It should be OS an option to select whether to use one or two newlines as a paragraph OS separation. TF What Marck quite rightly said at that time is that a CR is a CR; in TF ASCII, there is no distinction between hard and soft CR. This shut me TF up, because you need another indicator, flag or whatever to tell a-f TF when it should wrap the next line into the character and when not. If I type a newline, I want a newline. I wont ever type a newline if I don't want one, why should I? OS What I have noticed as well is that even if I type something just OS _before_ a paragraph, the first line of the paragraph is reformatted. OS I do really expect the editor to leave the lines _behind_ what I'm OS typing intact in any case. If I really want some paragraph to be OS completely reformatted, I'd happily tell the editor to do so manually. TF If you have "automformat off" you can tell it manually. "Autoformat TF on" means you want the editor you behave just the way it does. ;-) That's not true. If autoformat is off, the editor still formats my paragraph as, e.g., a justified block. It just doesn't do so if I insert some text somewhere in the paragraph. If autoformat is on, the editor does _always_ reformat what I write, which is very nice. I would just like it very much if it didn't kill the little parts of formatting (the newlines) I inserted myself. I don't really think it's so difficult. Just look at what Word does: it formats all paragraphs as justified block if I want that, but it doesn't kill any newlines, which are taken as paragraph separators, of course. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Autoformat
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On Montag, 25. Oktober 1999 at 23:59:41 you wrote: MDP On 25 October 1999 at 20:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] told the list: MDP How is the internal paragraph formatting logic supposed to MDP distinguish between your intentional newline and the ones MDP elsewhere separating the different lines of the same paragraph? MDP The constraint is in the permissible ASCII content formatting MDP capabilities of mail / plain text type data. Sorry, I'd have no problem doing that. One possibility is what you just mentioned above. If the editor inserted, say, a CR/LF pair when the user presses Return, it could easily use a single CR to mark those lines that were formatted automatically. Also, they should be using a multi-byte charset, there's enough space in there to use some magic sequence as a mark. Now, if the guys at RIT wanted to make final formatting a function of transmission and work using display time wrapping of continuous strings then they might be able to do something about it, but I would suggest that IMHO would represent a major rework of some of TB!s core text handling components. IMHO, the a-f function is just that, a function for display time wrapping of continuous strings. The simple function "justify on autowrap" wasn't, but as a-f does the formatting all the time, it has to deal with the problem. Anyway, this discussion arose when someone said he's not happy with the way the function works. I'm not happy with it, because it's a great function i'd really like to use, but the time I don't use now for reformatting paragraphs, I use to reformat those I didn't ever want formatted. It's not just the single/double CR problem, it's also that formatting is done just about always. It even does it when I insert some preformatted text from the clipboard! Well, as someone also pointed out, it's a first try at a new function. Maybe it will become better. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: Autoformat
ever before used a mailer that had four different methods to create threads, but I've used several that combined those methods to provide consistent threads. Pardon me for ranting. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi Ray Vermey, On Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 1999 at 14:29:27 you wrote: Is anybody able to replicate this? (I already sent a bug report) RV Ack here too! PII 64 MB of RAM. 7 MB exe file. Seems to be a problem of 1.36. I certainly did it before, but now the error is reproducible with a 20 MB file on a 256 MB PIII. Hm. Two minutes later: Funny enough, The Bat! didn't exactly crash, I even wrote the first part of this message after the "Out of memory"-message. But it refused to show me any folder contents after that. Had to restart. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re[7]: Autoformat
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 1999 at 20:21:16 you wrote: OS I don't care at all, really. Even if I repeat myself: I want a OS function to auto-format the text I type. MDP I was only saying that that is not what is *there*. Accepted it is MDP what you are suggesting. Thanks ;) MDP Be specific. "Badly thought out" is not. If you're a programmer then MDP you, too, should be able to define a bug clearly. Badly thought out is not specific, you're certainly right about that. But every programmer has to deal with the user (and I am a user of The Bat!, not it's programmer) telling her "I don't like the way this function works for this reason and that". She needs to go to her chamber or whatever and think about which parts of the program from the technical point of view (that's the point you can only really have if you know the source, too) could be faulty in whatever way (notice the absence of the word "bug" here) to cause the user's criticism. OS Making a function work in the way it should have from the start OS has nothing to do with enhancing anything. A bug is not only a OS single point you can lay your hand on and say "this is what has to OS be done to fix it", but it's also failure in concept or OS implementation. IMO, that's exactly the point about a-f. MDP I disagree. "Making a function work better" comes more under the MDP "suggestions for improvement" banner. By definition a "bug" is a logic MDP error which has a defined method for reproducing it and a quantifiable MDP effect on what happens. It seems we have a different understanding of what is a logic error with a... and so on. I've several times described exactly in which cases the a-f function doesn't do what it's supposed to do (or what I think it should do, as AFAIK there's no public statement about that). That behaviour is absolutely reproducible (just like your problem with the quotes) and it certainly has a quantifiable effect (for example, taking our time discussing it ;-) MDP The guys at RIT have a policy of only acknowledging the first report MDP on a specific bug and only notifying that single person of its' cure. MDP It is my belief that they do read them all. LOL. I certainly hope so! [description of several bugs cut] MDP .. in due course? Exactly. I don't believe it's the best way to have a priority list made up of the most interesting programming tasks. Inserting lots of new icons is surely very important, although nice. OS Pardon me for ranting. MDP Pardoned. It's been an interesting debate. :-) It is. Anyway, why don't they make The Bat! open source? I'd immediately take over that a-f function ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re[2]: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi Steve Lamb, On Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 1999 at 18:06:55 you wrote: SL Wednesday, October 27, 1999, 11:55:36 PM, Ralf wrote: I've done it before. Well, a 5 megs attachment went along it's way just fine. Why should some points reject a large message? Is there a general rule or a RFC or something like that that restricts the maximum size of a message? SL The RFCs (I thought it was 822, but it is not, I am now looking for the SL exact one) only guarantee up to 64kb. Furthermore large attachments were, and SL still are, considered a denial of service. Many places will limit the size of SL the message. The average that I have herd of is 5Mb where some are as low as SL 2Mb. I've been telling customers about that 64kb limit all the time... after having tried, I must say many mail server admins don't seem to care about that rumor ;) I send around large files, even 15 MB or so, often, without general problems. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re[2]: Autoformat
Hi Ralf Buschmann, On Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 1999 at 21:02:23 you wrote: RB Hi Oliver, RB you wrote on Thursday, October 28, 1999, 8:09:29 PM: That's exactly what I meant in this thread. The algorithm used by The Bat! at the moment just doesn't look to me like someone could explain it in such a technical way. And if someone would, you'd be saying "wait a minute, that won't work too well" all the time. RB When I upgraded to v1.36, I was very happy to see that there is now an RB auto-format option in The Bat! Admittedly, I expected it to work like in RB Agent. So I immediately turned it off again, it was just driving me RB crazy! But, well, to me the technical explanation of the strange RB auto-format behavior is quite obvious: it's just like there is a little RB grinning dwarf sitting in the background, hitting Alt-L (or Alt-R or RB Alt-J depending on your settings) on the current paragraph all the time RB :-) Now, that's good! It sure looks like it! Didn't occur to me, but they just might have done it that way. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re[2]: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hi Ralf Buschmann, On Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 1999 at 21:07:26 you wrote: RB Hi Oliver, RB you wrote on Thursday, October 28, 1999, 8:20:42 PM: Is anybody able to replicate this? (I already sent a bug report) RV Ack here too! PII 64 MB of RAM. 7 MB exe file. Seems to be a problem of 1.36. I certainly did it before, but now the error is reproducible with a 20 MB file on a 256 MB PIII. Hm. RB Oliver, how long does it take on your machine to attach that message (or RB until the error occurs)? Just for you I tried it again :-) and found out it takes about 15 seconds before running out of memory. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re[4]: Re-indexing
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On Donnerstag, 4. November 1999 at 3:43:33 you wrote: MDP I have a copy of the MBREPAIR tool but, in the (nearly) two years MDP that I have been a TB user, I have never had to use it once. What's that tool? Where do I get it? How do I use it? Just in case... if my message base should get corrupted and The Bat! doesn't work, it might be a little difficult to ask ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[6]: Re-indexing
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On Donnerstag, 4. November 1999 at 21:39:15 you wrote: OS What's that tool? Where do I get it? How do I use it? Just in case... OS if my message base should get corrupted and The Bat! doesn't work, it OS might be a little difficult to ask ;) http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/mbrepair.zip Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Activating a different account automatically
Hi Douglas Hinds, On Montag, 15. November 1999 at 6:12:53 you wrote: DH I have filtered mail from a certain party to a folder in another DH account and want the active account for all replies to be the DH original account. So I put the original account's info in the DH folder's properties / identity slots of the folder my incoming DH mail was filter to, but this doesn't make the original account the DH active account when I initiate mail from or reply to mail filtered DH to that folder. What does this? (I'm assuming it's possible). Well, what you are describing works for me. I have three accounts. Now, when I put the mail address that usually belongs to account one into the identity/sender (or whatever exactly in english) field for a folder in another account, every mail I create while having that folder active has that address as sender. Hm, long sentence... hope I made myself clear ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996
Re: Scott's disks
Hi Jack LaRosa, On Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 1999 at 1:11:36 you wrote: JL Hello Bats!, JL Just thought I'd let everyone know, I bought one of Scott Moore's 20 JL Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II and it arrived today. It is JL marked *IGT International Game Technology 20MB* and is about half JL again as thick as the Simple Technology 16MB card I was using. It JL slid in my 200LX effortlessly and I didn't realize it was as thick JL as it was until I took it out and looked at it again. It was JL packaged in a single layer of bubble-wrap which went completely JL around the card and was taped closed. This was wrapped in a sheet of JL regular bond paper and was stuffed into a small manila envelop along JL with a thank-you from Scott. It appears to have suffered no damage JL in transit and immediately existed when FILER was started. I have JL done a back-up to it and erased same with no apparent ill effects. I don't know what you are talking about and I don't care at all, but it's nice you sent it anyway. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi DOLIST Customer Support, On Dienstag, 7. Dezember 1999 at 18:04:12 you wrote: DCS The bug description: When I drag drop and attachment to the DCS mail composition window, after the mail is sent, the attachment DCS refer to the file on the disk and not the one really in the DCS mail (for example if the file has been updated on disk). I DCS notice that when I drag drop the file was mime encoded when DCS it was Base64 encoded when added via the attach panel. No DCS problem via the attach icon. Could it be solved? This very DCS annoying. That's not only annoying. I noticed The Bat! does not even create it's own copy of the file sent. I thought it through and I think it's of course kind of logical not to copy some large file unnecessarily. But it's even mor logical that I assume the message to be intact in it's whole if it went to my "sent" folder. Maybe someone needs the current behaviour as an option, but for me it means I've gone on the wrong assumption for quite a long time (meaning I always thought I had a copy of some file I sent so someone lying in my "sent" folder), so I'll really have to have a look at what data I've lost. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Compressing/Purging folder window
Hi there, Does anyone have a reason why that little window (appearing when I select e.g. "Purge all folders") has to be _system_ modal? I understand I can't continue working with The Bat! while those tasks are performed, but I don't know why I have to be disturbed in using other apps while that thing is visible. If you don't know what I mean: 1) Put some hundred mails to trash. Delete them from trash. 2) Select Folder/Purge all folders. 3) Open a "My Computer" window or whatever and try to continue working. The little status window floats above all other windows all the time, which is quite disturbing. Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Hi
Hi Steve Lamb, On Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 1999 at 23:30:47 you wrote: SL Thursday, December 09, 1999, 2:17:16 PM, Alexander wrote: Sometimes.:-)) Hey, Steve, are you still here? SL No. *LOL Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: TBUDL Rescan and message printing macros
Hi Michael Heydekamp, On Samstag, 11. Dezember 1999 at 15:26:50 you wrote: MH 2. When printing messages, how can I include kludges like CC, BCC, MH and such stuff in the template? Tried %CC/%BCC and %OCC/%OBCC, MH doesn't work. Use %CCLIST and %BCCLIST. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: TBUDL Rescan and message printing macros
Hi Michael Heydekamp, On Samstag, 11. Dezember 1999 at 18:36:56 you wrote: MH Dear Oliver, MH on Saturday, December 11, 1999, 17:33, you wrote: MH 2. When printing messages, how can I include kludges like CC, BCC, MH and such stuff in the template? Tried %CC/%BCC and %OCC/%OBCC, MH doesn't work. OS Use %CCLIST and %BCCLIST. MH Works wonderful, thanks. Where did you get that information from, I MH can't locate it anywhere (especially not in the macro list I get when I MH click on "Macros")? It was in the readme for some past version (don't remember exactly) when that feature was introduced ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list
Hi Andrew K. Lovetski, On Samstag, 11. Dezember 1999 at 19:29:02 you wrote: AKL Hello, The Bat Users! AKL What do these messages mean? I keep getting them from time to time... I still get them, although someone mentioned the problem had been fixed... Mtdc Return-Path: Mtdc Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Received: (qmail 11278 invoked by uid 417); 11 Dec 1999 15:03:55 - Mtdc Received: from ns2.dutaint.com (HELO thebat.dutaint.com) (202.134.1.243) by mx0a.softhome.net with SMTP; 11 Dec 1999 15:03:55 - Mtdc Received: from softhome.net by softhome.net with RAW (MDaemon.v3.0.0.0f.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:48:55 +0700 Mtdc Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 21:48:55 +0700 Mtdc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [trash] Mtdc Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a private mailing list Mtdc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Mime-Version: 1.0 Mtdc X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mtdc Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Precedence: bulk Mtdc X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia Mtdc X-List-Command: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a moderator or member of this list. Only a moderator or member may post to this list. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Compressing/Purging folder window
Hi Paula Ford, On Montag, 13. Dezember 1999 at 9:41:26 you wrote: PF On Monday, December 13, 1999, Thomas Fernandez wrote: PF Normally, I agree, but cancelling out of the purging of a database PF can be a very tricky business. That may be. So, how about this: when you hit the Cancel button, the current purge will still be performed and the "cancel" effective right after? PF The original posters didn't want to wait for the purging to end. That PF was the point. :) I'm the original poster and that isn't quite true ;) I had the purging configured to run automatically at program end, but as it took too much time, I switched it off again. I don't really care, as I can easily start the process manually every one or two days. My question was just whether there is any rational explanation of why the process window has to be system modal (above all other windows), which keeps me from continuing to work with other programs. As to the difficulty of stopping the process... Some arguments: 1) I can even stop the defragmenting of my disc nowadays. 2) I hope there is some mechanism in the purging process that protects me from complete data loss in the event my computer crashes during the process. Maybe there isn't, but then there should definitely be, given the amount of time the process takes. So this mechanism could be used to make cancel the process anytime, too. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Some things about 1.38
Hi there, can someone confirm that checking pgp signatures using pgp 6.0.2 (business edition, german version) still doesn't work? (Not to speak about that automatic decrypting.) I must say, I'd really like to be able to check signatures again one day. Why is the following: Every time a new version of The Bat! comes out, there's also a new language file. Every time I noticed that the newest feature additions to The Bat! are not translated in that new language file. That's not very nice, as those new features are sometimes the ones I'd most require a translation to understand. In version 1.38, the new menue entries Message/Specials/Reply ... are not translated to german. Just to make myself clear, I don't bother about this special case, I just noticed the discrepancy between version releases of the main programm and the corresponding language files several times now. Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Fonts Available with Editor ??
Hi Nick Andriash, On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 1999 at 0:58:55 you wrote: NA That indeed is a shame... having to put up with such limited NA fonts. Oh well... will probably hold off buying the Program until NA a later version that allows for variable width fonts. Yeah, that's important. Don't go buy anything without a lot of wizbang fonts. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[6]: Fonts Available with Editor ??
Hi Thomas Fernandez, On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 1999 at 7:10:43 you wrote: TF My opinion is, allow variable width fonts - and those who don't want TF to use them, shouldn't. That's what I'll support, too. I'm not against the idea of using variable width fonts (although that's where any email formatting is killed instantly. Ever sent a formatted, maybe tabular, mail to someone using Netscape?). Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: privacy
Hi Thomas Fernandez, On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 1999 at 15:41:35 you wrote: CR can i suppress the s/n in the field x-mailer? CR 'cause i don't want the possibility to identify all my mails! TF probably because your S/N is a duplicate. Nice organisation you have TF filled in, as well. Well, my s/n is no duplicate, but I didn't ever like it to appear in the header, either. That's one step on our way to the transparent internet user, IMHO. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: privacy
Hi Steve Lamb, On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 1999 at 18:02:39 you wrote: Another thing is the serial number of the Pentium-III. This can be checked while you're web browsing (I was told), and that *is* an invasion of privacy. Actually a reason for me not to stick with Intel. That's not really different, that's exactly the point. Just go to www.deja.com and have a look at their search facility by mail address. You can trace some person around, sometimes over the last some years. You can exactly follow their flow of interest. You can see if he ever forgot using the anonymizer when posting to his favourite porn newsgroup. You can have a look at the headers in his original postings. (I know I can't post directly in a newsgroup with The Bat!, deja is just an example for a search engine that's already a little fargoing... Anyway, many mailing lists are mirrored on usenet.) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: privacy
Hi Ali Martin, On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 1999 at 18:37:08 you wrote: AM On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:02:39 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: AM [] I don't have a scenario in my way of life that would require me to hide my identity when sending a mail to someone. To the contrary. That is *you*. *You* are not the totality of humanity. How about a political person in China, for example? AM So, after all this. Is there a way to suppress the serial number? I asked that some time ago and was told there wasn't. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Fonts Available with Editor ??
Hi Thomas Fernandez, On Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 1999 at 17:09:18 you wrote: TF As we will not have the power to change C-Win, we will have to TF adapt. I don't know whether it would bloat the programme. If not, TF just don't use variable width if you don't want to. ;-) I already stated I would. But the problem I see is not me staying with fixed-width fonts, but many others not doing so. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Fonts Available with Editor ??
Hi Thomas Fernandez, On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 1999 at 3:34:29 you wrote: TF Right. When I started working at my first employer's office, and TF one of the big clients of that company insisted they buy a fax TF machine, they said exactly this: "we have been using telex TF machines for 20 years without any problems, we really don't need TF fax". TF When Email became the hit in business, my then-boss said, "we have TF been using faxes for 20 years, we really don't need email". Just one last answer by me about this subject: Your comparison doesn't fit. Go invent a new system. Plan it carefully and don't forget variable width fonts. Write a client for it and call it The Bloat!. But don't tamper with an existing running system. Sorry, I don't want to sound angry... As you said, we finally all agree ;) And, as Marck stated in another posting, there are obvious reasons for using variable width fonts. I won't reiterate all that now, just wanted to make clear why the fax/telex example is no good. Happy christmas! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Filters for outgoing messages?
Hi Ali Martin, On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 1999 at 23:59:55 you wrote: AM On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:08:25 +0100, Roel wrote: just put 'explorer.exe' or 'explorer' in the field, that'll do it :-) AM I included my windows directory as well and it also worked. shrug It does work. I fell for some nasty translation error... There's a check box beneath that edit field saying "Run hidden". I usually use The Bat! with german language and in german it says "Erzeuge getrennten Prozess", which means "Create separate process". Of course I checked that one... seemed to be a good idea. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Keyboard Shortcut to move to next unread message?
Hi there, the subject says it. I found Ctrl-ß to be for moving to the _previous_ unread message. I have no instant idea why I would want that ;) Moving to the _next_ unread message has no shortcut apparently. Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Filters for outgoing messages?
Hi Roel, On Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 1999 at 23:08:25 you wrote: OS Then I put "windowsdir\explorer.exe" in the edit R just put 'explorer.exe' or 'explorer' in the field, that'll do it :-) R if you want to use windows-variables, you should use them like this: R %windowsdir% Nice to know that works ;) Anyway, of course I didn't put "windowsdir" in there, but actually "d:\winnt". I just didn't want to confuse anybody ;) Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Keyboard Shortcut to move to next unread message?
Hi Ali Martin, On Freitag, 24. Dezember 1999 at 1:58:08 you wrote: AM [] Moving to the _next_ unread message has no shortcut apparently. AM Ctrl+] should do that for you. :) Hm. On a german keyboard you have to hit Ctrl, also keep the key "Alt Gr" pressed and use your left foot to get to "]". Then you see that it doesn't work, because only Quick Search pops up. Hm. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Filters for outgoing messages?
Hi Roel, On Freitag, 24. Dezember 1999 at 2:08:18 you wrote: R if you want to use windows-variables, you should use them like this: R %windowsdir% OS Nice to know that works ;) Anyway, of course I didn't put OS "windowsdir" in there, but actually "d:\winnt". I just didn't want OS to confuse anybody ;) R I've seen stranger things being typed before... if you would have actually R typed 'windowsdir' it wouldn't have surprised me... :-) That's alright ;) I've seen things like that, too, while working as a trainer for a consulting company. There's a funny story that's crossing my mind... maybe not everyone knows that trick: Someone complained to a coleague of mine he couldn't use any of the icons on his desktop. My coleague tried to figure it out (that was on a Windows NT course ;), but it wasn't possible to click on any icon. He rebooted, tried everything. Then he found it out: Some other guy had taken a screenshot of the empty desktop, switched to a higher resolution, moved all the icons away from the usual desktop space, reestablished the old resolution and put in the screenshot as the desktop bsckground picture. Good idea to frighten you younger sister ;) Thanks for your testing, also to Ali. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Keyboard Shortcut to move to next unread message?
Hi Jast, On Freitag, 24. Dezember 1999 at 11:42:09 you wrote: J Try out Ctrl-´ (left of backspace, right of ß) That should work. Is there a way to make that shortcut (or rather the function itself) to work across folders? Meaning, when I've read the last message in one folder, have it jump to the next unread message in whatever other folder? Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Keyboard Shortcut to move to next unread message?
Hi Jast, On Freitag, 24. Dezember 1999 at 11:42:09 you wrote: the subject says it. I found Ctrl-ß to be for moving to the _previous_ unread message. I have no instant idea why I would want that ;) Moving to the _next_ unread message has no shortcut apparently. J This was discussed before, and you didn't take notice ;-) Sorry ;) J Try out Ctrl-´ (left of backspace, right of ß) That should work. Works! Great! Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Other windows crashes
Hi Ali Martin, On Freitag, 24. Dezember 1999 at 21:00:27 you wrote: does anybody know an editor that works like TB's editor? (it would be a real surplus if it would also support syntax-highlighting) Try Emacs, it even works like the rest of The Bat! ;) And it does support syntax highlighting. Or try Proton, free from www.meybohm.de. Oliver Sturm -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Newbie Stuff
Hi Moosebreath, On Samstag, 8. Januar 2000 at 20:12:57 you wrote: I used to be able to edit a message and save it where it sits, doesn't look like a way to do that. Do you mean a message you received? Why would you want to edit that? You can't, IMHO. Saving a message as draft is possible using different commands in the menu "Message". I'd like to be able to set up multiple accounts (I have 4), and use 1 set of mailbox folders with the option of using specific ones inside the other accounts. You can use filters to automatically move messages to other folders, even in other accounts. You can drag and drop messages across account boundaries. I see there is HTML support but when an HTML page comes into email, it doesn't look like what was sent, E-C-O (Eudora, Calypso, and Outlook) display as a web page. I know I'll get flak here, but I would like to see an HTML toolbar and the ability to display the page the way it was sent. When you subscribe to things nowadays, sometimes you're given a choice of HTML of plain text but most of the time not at all, you get HTML. Email and HTML have to mix nowadays. Double click the html-attachment to open it using your default browser. I'd like to select which account to send the email from (down arrow) in the send mail when I'm about to send it, not have to send it from the account I'm editing in. In the message editor, use the down arrow right of the From-field to select the originating account. I'd like to see a "preview" on the toolbar next to the print button. And a "right click" on the toolbar to customize it. I'd like those, too ;) Some small stuff like "change case", "wrap, unwrap", "remove quotes in message" etc. You can change case somehow, but I don't remember. What is wrap and unwrap? Like folder mode in emacs? I don't think you can do that. I don't know about removing quotes, but you can reply without quoting using Messages/Specials/Reply without quotation. The ability to work with sentences or paragraphs or both. Hm? When I'm composing a message, tell me which mailbox I'm in, in case the gray cells get lost. AFAIK, you can see that from the From-field. Oliver Sturm -- % \(- (-: Command not found. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list
Hi Douglas Hinds, On Samstag, 8. Januar 2000 at 20:54:38 you wrote: I've started to receive loads of this stuff again. I thought that problem had been solved? What does this indicate? That something I sent didn't get posted? Douglas Hinds Saturday, January 08, 2000, 12:42:54 PM, MDaemon wrote: Mtdc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Mime-Version: 1.0 Mtdc X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mtdc Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc Precedence: bulk Mtdc X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc X-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia Mtdc X-List-Command: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mtdc [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a moderator or member of this list. Only a moderator or member may post to this list. Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hi all,
IMHO, this is mainly loads of discussion about a piece of software
that's supposedly arriving somewhere in the near future. What I
noticed about the interview was mainly that there is no single hard
fact about that piece of software available. There's some "of course
this will be in it" and "that has a high priority", but I didn't get
the impression there will be anything to really look at in the next
few months at least.
So, what new features will TB 1.40 bring? That seems more interesting
to me.
IMVHO, of course.
Oliver Sturm
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The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.38e under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2128 and would like to report a bug The bug description: Messages saved but not set to "send later" can't be deleted from Outbox. Steps to reproduce the bug: Create a new message, enter an address and some text. Hit Ctrl-S to save it in the Outbox folder. Close the editor window. Try to delete the message from Outbox. It doesn't work. Reopen the message, hit "Send later". Now the message can be deleted. Regards, Oliver Sturm -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Januk Aggarwal, On Freitag, 14. Januar 2000 at 00:15:48 you wrote: Messages saved but not set to "send later" can't be deleted from Outbox. This has been discussed before, and it turns out it isn't a bug exactly. Obviously I missed that ;) Thanks! Now there is an easy work around. When you create a message and save it, there is an icon with a little hourglass and paper. Click on that, it will removed, just the same way you unpark a message elsewhere. I have no problem with that now, seems like a nice idea. Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Auto Verify PGP Messages ?
Hi Nick Andriash,
On Freitag, 14. Januar 2000 at 04:18:36 you wrote:
Hello Batters,
I'm wondering if any of you who use PGP, and have set the Preferences for
auto verification on opening of messages, has ever had it work for them? The
question was posed to me off List, and I must admit that I didn't have my
Preferences set that way... so I tried it, and in fact it does not work in
TB. This feature of PGP does however, work in Eudora and Outlook 2K.
Anyone have similar experiences? Any suggestions?
I have the similar experience that it doesn't work. Anyway (even if I
get to repeat myself ;), checking signatures has not been working for
me for a long time now...
BTW, has anybody tried to install PGP 6.51 on Win2k? I tried it, as it
got available at last in germany and it keeps telling me it won't work
on Win2k. Funny, as 6.02 did work without problems.
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Re[2]: Auto Verify PGP Messages ?
Hi Nick Andriash,
On Freitag, 14. Januar 2000 at 20:21:21 you wrote:
BTW, has anybody tried to install PGP 6.51 on Win2k? I tried it, as
it got available at last in germany and it keeps telling me it
won't work on Win2k. Funny, as 6.02 did work without problems.
Oliver, have you tried the newest version... 6.5.2(a) ? I think
there was mention that it was setup for Win2K not 100% sure, but
there should be some documentation at the NAI site.
I'm here in germany and I'm happy to have 6.5.1 at last... took them
about half a year since the version available in USA... plus, they
don't ever tell me about it although I have a support contract. You
have to look on their website yourself. Great company, NAI... talk
about monopolizing.
Downloading US versions is still no-no without special export licenses
at NAI, I don't know for sure if that might change, considering latest
jurisdiction.
Thanks for the idea, I'll be looking forward to when 6.5.2 comes to
germany ;) BTW, does checking signatures work in TB with 6.5.2 or do
you still get that nice empty window?
Oliver Sturm
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Re[2]: Newbie now on list...
Hi Alexander V. Kiselev, On Sonntag, 16. Januar 2000 at 22:34:28 you wrote: [ splitting digests ] Believe it or not, but this is *my own favourite*, too;-( I'm not saying I don't like the idea, but one arrogant question: Why do you subscribe in digest mode if you want the separate messages? (Just out of real interest!) I'm in some mailing lists digest mode, but that's exactly because I _don't_ want the separate mails. I just browse the contents, usually to find only two articles I'm interested in and then I trash the whole thing ;) Oliver Sturm -- % \(- (-: Command not found. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Newbie now on list...
Hi Alexander V. Kiselev, On Montag, 17. Januar 2000 at 21:10:27 you wrote: Yep. But that's another side of this coin. TB treats MIME digests *right now* awfully: it treats them as an empty message with heaps of attachments, each of them being a message. Nightmare to read this thing! Unless the developers do something about it (BTW, in RFCs it's clearly stated that MIME digests _should_ be treated as *folders* consisting of individual messages, provided that the OS supports such kind of graphical representation) the only way to deal with digests is to split them into individual messages, then import to TB. Ha. Now I know exactly what you mean! I've had those in some lists, too, still receive some occasionally. I'd definitely support that TB should have a better way of handling those things... Maybe they could be shown like a thread? Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
PGP 6.5.3
Hi there, I got PGP 6.5.3 now, seems to be quite new... just wanted to tell the other folks interested in PGP that this one seems to be working well with The Bat! Checking signatures works again at long last, although not automatic ;) I installed it on Win2k, which works generally, but I have several problems with the pgpdisk driver on one system, so be careful if you try it. Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: PGP 6.5.3
Hi Gary, On Dienstag, 18. Januar 2000 at 22:57:22 you wrote: O I got PGP 6.5.3 now, seems to be quite new... just wanted to tell the O other folks interested in PGP that this one seems to be working well O with The Bat! Checking signatures works again at long last, although O not automatic ;) I installed it on Win2k, which works generally, but I O have several problems with the pgpdisk driver on one system, so be O careful if you try it. I have been using my commercial PGP 6.5.3 in TB! without a problem too on W98 OS. However, I have not been able to load it on my W2K OS side as it will not load ... says must use W9x or NT. It will not recognize W2K. I suspect it is the pgpdisk driver also. Do you have the free version? If not, how did you get it to install? Maybe I should use the free version 6.5.3 on W2K. AFAIK, 6.5.3 is the only version apart from the illustrous 6.5.2a that is specifically for Win2k. It even says so in the readme! Anyway, every other function works alright, it's only the pgpdisk driver that gives problems. I tried it on two machines with the same configuration but different hardware and it worked on one ;) I'm not using the free version, but the commercial version I got from the licensed section at pgpinternational.com. Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Here is 'EXACT' sequence, I used, so THE BAT opens a URL.
Hi phil, On Montag, 24. Januar 2000 at 04:27:30 you wrote: Here is a sequence, I used, so THE BAT opens a URL. [ largish sequence cut ] Have I missed something? My Bat opens an URL every time I click on it. What is this about? Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report
Hello Allie, Tuesday, February 15, 2000, 7:28:31 PM, you wrote: That's true. You can see it when attaching a very large file to a new message via the "attach a file" button. Using dd it works well. AM Funny I just attached a 30MB file using the attach file AM toolbar button with no problem. Where exactly does the problem with AM attaching using this method occur? It takes a long time, TB uses loads of memory, sometimes you get to see that "memory exhausted" dialog. Then sometimes TB crashes... but sometimes, it works after all. About receiving mail... I've not seen TB fault on this, but I've sometimes got the impression that throughput is poor with large mails. Receiving a mail of, say, 8 MB seems to take significantly longer than ftping a file that size. I didn't doublecheck with a stopwatch, so I can't give values. AM Is that really a fair comparison? As I meant a file that has 8MB when already base64-encoded, I don't know why it shouldn't be. Best regards, Olivermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report
Hi Allie Martin, On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 12:55:06 AM you wrote: Yes, I'm a bad, bad boy for sending email that big. Who cares. Fix the problem. Why should TB! use in excess of 192 megs of ram when trying to import (or open) an email with a 8 meg attachment?! This problem is as you say old. Since I don't practice sending large e-mail attachments g, I can only give second hand information. It was said that dragging and dropping the attachment anywhere unto the TB! main window creates a new message with the attachment without hassle. That's true. You can see it when attaching a very large file to a new message via the "attach a file" button. Using dd it works well. About receiving mail... I've not seen TB fault on this, but I've sometimes got the impression that throughput is poor with large mails. Receiving a mail of, say, 8 MB seems to take significantly longer than ftping a file that size. I didn't doublecheck with a stopwatch, so I can't give values. Oliver Sturm -- This Virus requires Microsoft Windows. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[6]: The Bat! and Big files
Hi Wolfgang Kynast, On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 8:34:53 PM you wrote: ... OS Anyway, my original problem is still there... If I have a file of, OS say, 6mb of size, which will encode to around 8mb when attached to OS email, why does transfering those 8mb via TB take much longer than OS transfering another file of 8mb original size via ftp? Because your SMTP server does not provide the same bandwidth as the ftp server does. Hm. Never heard of that, I must say. I'm using a 64kbit ISDN connection, shouldn't any server at the provider be able to handle that little data? Oliver Sturm -- $ cat "can of food" cat: cannot open can of food -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! Windows 2000 professional
Hi Benoit Darcy, On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 1:34:24 PM you wrote: Is there any problem of compatibility or is The Bat! totally Win2K compliant ? thanx for your answers :) I didn't have any specific problems in about two months. Oliver Sturm -- This Virus requires Microsoft Windows. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: The Bat! and Big files
Hi Januk Aggarwal, On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 11:55:59 PM you wrote: http://www.highpowergraphics.com/freedrive.html Or if you want a little more space than that, http://www.freediskspace.com/Index.asp Thanks, I'll be having a look at those. Oliver Sturm -- $ cat "can of food" cat: cannot open can of food -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: LDAP
Hi Oleg Zalyalov,
On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 10:43:30 AM you wrote:
I don't know about the question, but I have one long standing
problem with LDAP. It doesn't search if organization in search base
contains space. So I have to use other applications to search the
most useful LDAP directory.
I have had a look at the log files of my own ldap server and i saw
that TB gives a correct search string for organizations containing
spaces. It works with my installation of OpenLDAP 1.2.0, maybe the
problem is specific to some ldap server software?
Oliver Sturm
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Folder specific quoting style (and other things)?
Hi there, When configuring templates for an account, I can set several parameters such as "Receipt request" or the quoting style. It doesn't seem I can do that for templates which are specific to one folder or even to one contact in the address book. That's not good, as I'd really like to activate "Receipt request" on a person-by-person basis. Am I missing something? Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Linux: The Ultimate NT Service Pack -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Folder specific quoting style (and other things)?
Hi Marck D. Pearlstone, On Friday, March 17, 2000 at 9:09:21 PM you wrote: as I'd really like to activate "Receipt request" on a person-by-person basis. Am I missing something? See Template Macros: %READCONFIRM - set the Reading Confirmation Request flag for the current message. %RCPTCONFIRM - set the Receipt Request flag for the current message. Thanks, I overlooked those. The quoting style, however, is on a per-account basis. :-( So that one should be a feature request... On some mailing lists with not-too-many people on them I like that style with the initials very much, though it doesn't work nicely with every sender's address. Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi Syafril Hermansyah,
On Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 5:32:14 PM you wrote:
Nowadays, most of list already support RFC-2369 (including this list),
so supporting RFC-2369 very useful.
I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369?
Oliver Sturm
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Re[2]: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi Steve Lamb, On Wednesday, April 12, 2000 at 10:44:34 PM you wrote: I like the idea ;), but what is RFC-2369? Do a yahoo search on RFC and find out. :) I just love those answers ;) Oliver Sturm -- Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Printing from Outbox not possible?
Hi Michael Heydekamp, On Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 6:42:02 PM you wrote: just realized that I was not able to print a message sitting in the outbox (using the print button and the menu command, forgot to check with Ctrl-P). I tried it on 1.41 and it works without problems. Oliver Sturm -- % \(- (-: Command not found. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
1.42?
Hi there, I'm not on TBBETA, so I'd like to ask here: Does anyone know when 1.42 will be available? I've noticed there must have been at least 17 betas out yet and the announcements for new features looked great. So I'm eagerly waiting ;) Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Oops, signature error. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 1.42?
Hi Alexander V. Kiselev, On Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 8:06:44 PM you wrote: Hi there! So, stay tuned;-) It's a _different_ Bat;-) I will, certainly. It's just that I don't like using potentially unstable versions for something as important to me as email. Especially the new message base format, which will hopefully be very good, would have kept me from trying it out beforehand. I'm not at all hesitant about that most of the time, but email is really important for me. Thanks for all the answers! Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Flagging?
Hi there, What's that new flagging function for? Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Always proofread carefully in case you something out. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Flagging?
Hi SyP, On Friday, May 05, 2000 at 9:06:14 PM you wrote: OS Hi there, OS What's that new flagging function for? It's for mark a message visually, perhaps because you want to deal with it a later date... Ah. I thought there was some sinister new functionality attached ;) Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filtering
Hi there, When using the Alt-Click combination to set a filter in the message list (wasn't there some dialog somewhere to see the settings of the filter in use? I can't find it :-(), I can filter for the from- and to-columns. But what is used is actually the name I can see in the column itself. Some people frequently change their "display name" but of course keep their email address. Is there some way to use the email address instead of the display name? Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Linux: The Ultimate NT Service Pack -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Color groups
Hi Allie Martin, On Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 2:55:26 PM you wrote: I like those color groups... Having those, I don't need any flagging. But it doesn't seem like I could use that Ctrl-G keystroke to set some color group instead of the flag. Another thing: There's a (new ?) filter category "replied messages". How can I use that one to set all messages I replied to to some color group, regardless of the folder they are in? Setup the 'replied' filter, making the source and move to folder the same. Yes, but I have maybe fifty folders and I don't want to make one filter for each folder, as every filter would be exactly the same. I always have to use _some_ folder, it seems. Anyway, I tried making a filter that hits always (as I want _every_ replied-to message colored) by leaving all the criteria settings empty. This doesn't work, either. I haven't tried entering "*" or the like, but it seems necessary at least. Oliver Sturm -- $ cat "can of food" cat: cannot open can of food -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering
Hi Allie Martin, On Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 3:50:05 PM you wrote: It does a simple string matching with the from field and nothing more. No, it doesn't. It does that simple match with the small part of the from-field that's actually _visible_. (BTW, can I configure that anywhere?) If it would use the real content of the from header field, matching the mail address would be possible, too. Oliver Sturm -- This Virus requires Microsoft Windows. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Filtering
Hi SyP, On Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 3:32:11 PM you wrote: S Try View-Display-Advanced Filtering...-Header-Sender's name S contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh, just tried it to be absolutely sure, and it DOESN'T WORK for me! Sorry... It doesn't work at all... there seems to be a bug in this idea ;) I tried it and TB really doesn't find all the messages which have some address in the header. I have around twenty such messages in one folder and it finds only one or two at a time, when setting the filter several times (always resetting it in-between, of course). Oliver Sturm -- Linux: The Ultimate NT Service Pack -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filtering
Hi Allie Martin,
On Saturday, May 06, 2000 at 6:18:01 PM you wrote:
Well, this is not how it works in essence. It does a very simple match of
what is displayed in the field. Use the search applet for doing searches
to your specialised need.
Then I'm going to propose it should work that way. As I said, I
receive a lot of mail from people who seem to use some kind of
display-name-of-the-day scheme. There's some intelligence in TB
regarding the selection, e.g. when I click on the message size, it
shows me all messages that have the same size in KB.
I think the feature itself is a little useless how it works now. The
subject, from and to are the only fields I'd like to filter for. The
subject I don't ever use in practice, because I use threaded view. And
the from and to don't work reliably.
So, if nobody has an Even Much Better Idea (tm), I'll submit this as a
feature request.
Oliver Sturm
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Re[2]: Flagging?
Hi Steve Lamb, On Sunday, May 07, 2000 at 5:36:28 AM you wrote: The column can be hidden, yes. And it must be hidden on all new folders twice. Not fun. You are aware of that "Use the account default column settings" checkbox, aren't you? Oliver Sturm -- % \(- (-: Command not found. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lost link associations with 1.42c
Hi Curt,
On Monday, May 08, 2000 at 12:06:17 PM you wrote:
Since the installation of 1.42c,
What the $§% is 1.42c (pardon me ;)
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Re[2]: Why is thebat.exe from tb142f.zip so big?
Hi Steve Lamb, On Friday, May 12, 2000 at 8:06:01 PM you wrote: OK, call me petty-minded if you like, but I don't like wasting CPU cycles if I can avoid it... It's a matter of personal tastes, you know. I'm not calling anyone petty-minded, but just like almost any other technology, it has it's purpose. I frequently compress the multi-megabyte executables which Delphi inevitably creates no matter what tiny program you are trying to write before sending them to customers via mail. That's one version of user friendliness. Oliver Sturm -- Always proofread carefully in case you something out. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Why is thebat.exe from tb142f.zip so big?
Hi Allie Martin, On Saturday, May 13, 2000 at 1:45:04 PM you wrote: Netcaptor sent me their registered software via e-mail once. It ended up being deleted from the server because of my settings. It was interesting that a few days later they began using a link to a restricted download site and celebrated not having to use e-mail to distribute the registered version of their program. Far more user friendly. I can now download it when I wish to and /if/ I wish to. Yes, but I'm talking about customers whom I write programs for. It's their software alone (not of-the-shelf software) and they also pay for getting round-the-clock one-minute-response-time support ;) Though, even when I'm offering software for download... Given the costs of internet connections in germany, most customers would certainly be grateful if downloads are as small as possible. Oliver Sturm -- This Virus requires Microsoft Windows. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP 6.5.3 and importing keys
Hi Allie Martin, On Tuesday, May 16, 2000 at 10:58:29 AM you wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble importing keys that are pasted into messages. When I select Specials | Import key, nothing happens. In fact, what I have to do is select Specials | Check digital signature. When it checks the signature, it also imports the key at that point. However, if the key is sent without a PGP signature then nothing happens when I try to import the public key and I'm stuck. I'm using version 6.5.3. Anyone else noted this problem? Yes, that's not very new to me. The automatisms in TB for PGP have never really worked for me... I was happy to notice that signature checking started working again at all two or three versions ago. Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: PGP 6.5.3 and importing keys
Hi Alexander A. Gomanyuk, On Wednesday, May 17, 2000 at 5:23:29 AM you wrote: Yes, that's not very new to me. The automatisms in TB for PGP have never really worked for me... I was happy to notice that signature checking started working again at all two or three versions ago. Yes, PGP plug-in is very weak place of The Bat. May be 2.0 will make us happy in hat sense :) I wouldn't say it's a weak point... I've developed an app with the PGP SDK myself, and I must say that's a candidate for the worst-api-available-competition. So I'm hesitant to say it's a weak point. Maybe they should think about dropping support for so many different versions. AFAIK, everyone can get an up-to-date PGP version on the net for nothing, so there aren't many reasons why one would stay with an old version for long. Just IMHO, of course. Oliver Sturm -- Always proofread carefully in case you something out. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Why is thebat.exe from tb142f.zip so big?
Hi Steve Lamb,
On Friday, May 12, 2000 at 11:09:55 PM you wrote:
Friday, May 12, 2000, 11:38:45 AM, Oliver wrote:
what tiny program you are trying to write before sending them to
customers via mail. That's one version of user friendliness.
Not sending them via mail would be even more user friendly.
No. Then they'd have to wait for another day to get their diskette and
fiddle around with it, which they can't. Alternatively, they'd have to
go learn how to use other internet services, which they won't.
Oliver Sturm
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Re[2]: Why is thebat.exe from tb142f.zip so big?
Hi Allie Martin, On Saturday, May 13, 2000 at 3:01:00 PM you wrote: The advantage of a download URL is that of control. The recipient may do the download whenever they wish and not have their e-mail flow disturbed by a large attachment. Most e-mail applications do not have an e-mail dispatcher as TB!'s either. I leave everybody her own choice and you won't ever receive an application update from me by mail. But the disadvantages of using download urls are several: - customers might be to plain dumb to do it - customers will destroy their setup of dial-up and internet explorer on a regular basis. If they don't, one of Microsoft's setup programs will do it for them. - customers will tell me several months after the update: "well, I thought I wouldn't _have_ to download the update. If it was so important, why didn't you mail it?" - I still think it's the best of support to initiate actions from my (the developer's) side. It's something else to have a developer take care of my issues without me doing anything. I'd certainly like it if more companies would send updates by mail, at least on request. I couldn't care less about _when_ I download some software. And I'm talking about commercial projects and many-bucks-support contracts, so there are many people who just expect support to be like this. Those are the same people who have the tv repair service get their set from their homes, and of course bring it back, too. Of course I'm talking about _my_ customers and not about all of them, too. This is my experience, partly based on the broad basis of computer knowledge in my society, which is, ahem, low. Oliver Sturm -- God is real, unless declared integer. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Three weeks of mail--gone!
Hi Mitch Wagner, On Friday, July 14, 2000 at 7:54:09 PM you wrote: I am running The Bat! version 1.44 on Windows 98. Try using NT or Win2k and buy a UPS to reduce the probability significantly. Oliver Sturm -- I prefer using the door instead of the Windows... -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Three weeks of mail--gone!
Hi Mitch Wagner, On Friday, July 14, 2000 at 10:59:32 PM you wrote: Thanks, but changing the OS is not an option; I'm running this on a corporate system. Well, IMO there's nothing in this world that makes Win98 run smoothly and undisturbed under all circumstances. Same goes for NT (probably for any OS if you take it seriously), but it's much (ahem, _MUCH_) more stable. Anyway, defragging your drives regularly and making sure you have more RAM than you need most of the time will certainly do good. As to the power supply, I don't think that was the problem--it was a system freeze-up, it wasn't a case of losing power. Cases of nearly-losing power can cause effects like what you described. We've had that on database systems which even continued running, but was losing data nevertheless due to sub-optimal power supply. Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Arghhh. Mail dispatcher
Hello Jamie, Tuesday, August 01, 2000, 11:51:07 AM, you wrote: JDB Hello TBUDL, JDB How do I display the screen shown in the gif JDB http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/mail_dispatcher.gif JDB It's been driving me mad. I'm sure I've looked in every menu now and JDB have had to admit defeat. Please someone put me out of my misery. Account/Dispatch Mail on server/Whatever Context menu/Show Full header Best regards, Olivermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Bulk mail export
Hi there, I have seldom done that before... The problem is I want to export a lot of my mail in one go. I have lots of different folders, which I'd like to export. Can I somehow trigger the export for all folders at once? I'm doing the export in Unix MBOX format to use that as a mail archive to view with Gnus. Gnus can do real threading on that mail as far as possible, so I'd also like to "combine" folders by adding my own sent messages into the threads in the right places. I don't have much hope, but can anyone suggest a way of doing that? Just to make myself clear: Say I have a folder called "Harry" for all the mail I receive from my friend Harry. There are messages in there which once belonged to the same conversation with Harry. There might be the root message of a thread "Summer holiday" and several "Re: Summer holiday" messages from Harry. To view the complete thread, it would be necessary to add all messages I ever _sent_ to Harry into the same export file. Thanks! Oliver Sturm -- Linux: The Ultimate NT Service Pack -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bulk mail export
Hi Ming-Li, On Friday, August 04, 2000 at 4:13:19 PM you wrote: You may use the "Message Finder" tool to pull messages in different folders (even different accounts) together in a "virtual folder". Unfortunately, you can't export from the virtual folder. Thanks for that idea, I didn't know the message finder could do more than find messages ;) I saw it can also copy found mail into another folder, so that's certainly a way by using a temporary folder. Oliver Sturm -- I prefer using the door instead of the Windows... -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: text editor to remove duplicate lines?
Hi Jamie Dainton,
On Wednesday, August 02, 2000 at 9:32:56 PM you wrote:
do you by any chance know of any txt editor which can remove identical lines?
i have got a list of addresses which i joined from 5 other txts and it
came to some 5000 k and about 4 identical lines of each
SL The GNU text utils would work wonders here.
SL type file | sort | uniq file.new
SL Sort will put them all in order and then uniq will return only a single
SL occurance of any repeating line.
It's time to get your copy of C++ or Pascal out. Ultraedit won't cut
it and I've never used GNU text editing tools. I'll have a look into
it, if I think it'll take less than an hour or three I'll have a go. Just
please don't expect miracles. I'm usually reasonably busy.
Well, here's a piece of Perl code that does the same thing. Tell me if you
get the C++ version any shorter ;)
@lines = ;
foreach $line (sort @lines) {
push (@uniquelines, $line) unless $seen{$line}++;
}
print @uniquelines;
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Mail ticker
Hi there,
I got myself cheaper internet access at last and I'm using the mail
ticker now, set to "Show automatically". Question:
Sometimes the mail ticker suddenly appears showing some new mail. Of
course I have my folders configured so I only see the more interesting
mail in the ticker. But every now and then I'd like to tell the ticker
"go away now with those five messages", because I can already
recognize they are not so exciting after all. I _don't_ want them
marked read immediately (which requires several actions on my part,
anyway), I want them only to disappear. I can hide the ticker, but
then it won't appear again at all until I set it to "Show
automatically" again. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Re[2]: Mail ticker
Hi Markus Gloede, On Wednesday, August 09, 2000 at 5:16:41 PM you wrote: I create unread copies of such mails to a special folder (labeled TODO) and mark the original mails as read in their respective folders. The TODO folder has the "Don't Show Unread Messages in Mail Ticker" set. The ticker goes away and a blue TODO with a bold number next to it tells me that there are still messages to be dealt with. After having dealt with a message I simply delete it from the TODO folder. Of course, if you have specific folder settings where the originals are kept this won't work. I filter nearly all my mail to different folders, so that system would be quite difficult to establish... What's more, I'd still have to mark the messages showing up in the ticker read. That's quite a lot of action: - Doubleclick the ticker or use the hotkey to show the ticker messages. - Mark them all and make them read. Or is there a very simple way to do this which I might have overlooked? Maybe I should make a feature proposal out of this, something like a "seen in ticker"-flag for messages plus a hotkey to mark all messages currently visible in the ticker "seen". That way, messages could disappear from the ticker without being marked read and without creating copies. Oliver Sturm -- I prefer using the door instead of the Windows... -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Effective Immediately
Hi Deryk Lister, On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 9:44:06 PM you wrote: Hi Joe, On Thursday 10/08/2000 at 20:27, you wrote: snip I think the program is arbitrarily inserting that quote code "" in there, but I can't figure out why. It's not a quote, and I don't think Leif typed that "". So why do these things keep popping up in so many of my messages? Odd, it doesn't appear on mine, and I haven't seen it do so yet... I had that special "", although I don't recall having seen too many of those before. Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mail ticker
Hi Curtis, On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 11:26:22 PM you wrote: OS OK now, same question as always: Is anyone from RITLABS listening in OS on their own product's mailing list or should I submit this stuff as OS a formal feature request? They do read the list but since the list has been so busy and filled with long argumentative threads they may just miss your feature request. I suggest you send it separately to Ritlabs. OK, I did that. Forgot to cc it to the list, though ;) Anyway, it tries to be a condensed version of what was discussed. Oliver Sturm -- % ar m God ar: God does not exist -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
System default mailer
Hi there,
sometime ago, I was able to set The Bat! as the system default mailer
in the Internet Explorer Options dialog. Now, TB doesn't appear in
that drop down list any longer. How can I get it in there again,
please?
Thanks!
Oliver Sturm
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% If I had a ( for every $ Congress spent, what would I have?
Too many ('s.
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