Hi Guys,
Unfortunatly the company I work for decided to move away from CF :( and
proceeded to get shot of all the cf devs we had.
I was one of two survivors who they see as legacy application developers grr
even thou I decided to become an MCPD, they still see us a just CF devs.
Anyhoo I did
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunatly the company I work for decided to move away from CF :( and
proceeded to get shot of all the cf devs we had.
Sorry to hear that - glad you survived tho'...
Anyhoo I did build the following site: www.cfdot.net
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way to set a bleak future for your own product!
Again, I must make the argument why CF and not ASP.NET.
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Casey Dougall
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Won Lee won...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/pdfs/Adobe3112.pdf
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way to set a bleak future for your own product!
Adobe didn't write that, Gartner did. And overall, it's a pretty
positive whitepaper.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
Well, there ya go, we got another 4 years to learn new languages... Adobe,
way to set a bleak future for your own product!
Adobe didn't write that, Gartner did. And overall, it's a pretty
positive whitepaper.
Particularly
-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Michael,
Kill this thread!!
For what it's worth I thoroughly enjoy threads like this.
It's
outsourced spam
filter / email servers, then message I sent yesterday didn't get delivered
until this morning (thank you spam tank and single fin).
-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET
Cant we all learn to love each other for our differences?
MD
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Cant we all learn to love each other for our differences?
What fun is that! :-)
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Michael,
Kill this thread!!
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. Please, lets
move this to someplace else.
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-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 14:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Maybe I'm the only one
Will...just remember...this is a technical forumso non-tech threads
have a limited lifespan here
As Mike D saidit can go to CF-Macromedia or CF-OT or heck...even the
insane CF-Community
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group
will,
if u spent as much time going to your local cfug as u do whining u'd have a
damn cfm job
have u ever gone to a cfug? do u know what a cfug is?
funny, last night at ours, the shops that were going .net cfm have now scaled
back to just cfm, hu
and plenty of jobs were passed
Where the heck do you live?
I wish I had the balls to up and move from my homeland. I consider myself
a PGP (pretty good programmer), and I am stuck here at an embarassing salary.
My job, co-workers and job environment is awesome, I get to take my dog to
work, I make my own hours, and have
I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wanted to follow up
what Ben had mentioned about CF in Gov.
Our branch was formed within the State Dept to consolidate all IT
under one roof. We inheritied nasty asp applications that rely heavily
in AD and msSQL. (ever try to change a domain on
: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
***There are only a handful of irrelevant posts in this thread out of 98
Oh yeah, and for the people in house who converted from classic and
.NET to CF. Lol, they wouldnt go back, even for a bump in salary.
-Adam
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:40:46 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this thread is supposed to be dead, but I wanted to follow up
what Ben
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
***There are only a handful of irrelevant posts in this thread out of 98 (as of
now).
Silencing unhappy CF'ers who are having to diversify due to the lack of CF
jobs, and are willing to subject themselves to ridicule by their peers,
Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
Yes, well I can certainly see your point with that analogy. Presumably,
after the putsch, those who disagree with Team Macromedia will be rounded up
for extermination, whether they use .NET or simply want CF to be better. I'm
sure this
I wonder how many of those jobs have listings like this?
Experienced web developer / software application programmer utilizing
various technologies and skills, including: ColdFusion , HTML, Active
Server Pages, IIS, ASP.NET, JavaScript, XML, MS SQL Server, XSLT,
VBScript, SQL Programming, C#,
There are parts of this thread which are not really useful and it's gotten
past the useful point. I've asked before for it to be moved over to the
CF-OT or Macromedia-Talk lists. I'd rather not do it myself if I don't have
to as it's better for the community to police itself.
On the other hand,
group hug ... coffee for everyone .. now GET BACK TO YOUR CODE ;)
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 12/14/2004 6:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Cant we all learn to love each other for our
Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Regarding the relative costs of the expensive ColdFusion and the
free other technologies, I have a statement from a colleague
I think I am going to switch to COBOL or PASCAL.. not sure this CF
shaahoey will ever take off.
ASP.NET? isnt that a website about snakes that are hidden in pretty baskets?
Ho hum.
Flame wars are so invigorating dont you think?
CFMX smells of eldeberries.
--
Mark Drew
coldfusion and
Cmon, step of that pre defined CF idea. It makes a discussion very
difficult, when people are rusty in their current web application
platform, and do not try to be open minded about other possible ways.
The flamewar part is long gone (if there was a flamewar, it was merely a
sharp discussion).
I guess they did something terribly wrong there, PHP is a very simple
language, you could even compare the learning curve to CF. I build my
apps as fast with CF as PHP or ASP (C# other story), so I must guess
there have been other issues except the application server used.
Micha Schopman
(at $1200) is insignificant in the
scheme of any project where they'll be buying and managing their own
servers.
Jim Davis
-Original Message-
From: Murat Demirci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
For most small to medium projects I'm not sure why you would
ever want to
buy CF anyway - hosting seems the way to. Since the
development servers are
free you can create
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 01:02:18 -0500, Jim Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure how this will be implemented in BlackStone -
Isaac's post was
the first I'd heard of it. But it is doable in Java (of
course) and it
wouldn't be all that hard to create a CFC to kick
something like this
TIm Uzzanti : Someone mentioned ediet.com which has a traffic ranking
of around 280,000 and in comparison CrystalTech is around 23,000.
Microsoft.com which is in the top 10 is using ASP.NET and Dell.COM
which is in the top 100 is also using ASP.NET..
Forta has already blogged this, but i think
One more thing. Please don't attack me! I'm just the messenger!
Ignorance is bliss, my friend. While you're at it, why not throw a message
around claiming that the Democrats are better than Republicans, or espouse
the ideological supremacy of the Lutheran church over the Catholics.
If they're going to standardize it in BlackStone, more
power to them, but
HOW they're going to do it I'm not sure. Will they only
support orphaned
threads (threads which are created and launched but can't
communicate back
to the parent thread) or will they support a more complete
model.
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF, that's 10
production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at. With .NET, it's zero
cost, so there can be some additional cost savings.
Also, no matter what way you cut it, CF Enterprise is quite expensive.
Also, only
Kwang Suh wrote:
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible
defensiveness, even from MM.
If you only take the opinions from people who have subscribed to a
relatively high volume mailing list called CF-Talk you'd be very naive
to expect anything else.
Would you
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their incredible
defensiveness, even from MM.
When .NET came out, and people started to use and understand it better, the
Java community did what every CF person should be doing: they learned .NET.
And then they deconstructed it. And then
Kwang Suh wrote:
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF, that's
10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at. With .NET, it's
zero cost, so there can be some additional cost savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a site that was so
If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to develop.
And everything else is hard/takes longer/is
Kwang Suh wrote:
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a site that
Kwang Suh wrote:
One thing that depresses me about the CF community is their
incredible defensiveness, even from MM.
If you only take the opinions from people who have subscribed to a
relatively high volume mailing list called CF-Talk you'd be very naive
to expect anything else.
I'd like this, but I think there are a lot of people out there who do
not fully understand what a null is and is not.
--
Aaron Rouse
http://www.happyhacker.com/
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:21:42 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like a concept of null type
Well, Excuse me!
Kwang Suh wrote:
If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
Please don't belittle my comments with such an offhand packaged response.
I am try to
Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
can't do enough?
I hate to take the other side of this argument, but I think your example is
flawed. There's no practical reason to use C# over
I like to give people some credit. If I understand what a null is, I'm sure
anyone else can.
I'd like this, but I think there are a lot of people out there who do
not fully understand what a null is and is not.
--
Aaron Rouse
http://www.happyhacker.com/
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:21:42 -0400,
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:14:40 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
case, then you need to factor in the cost of Windows licenses as well as
potential server management costs. In addition, you might be able to scale
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:12:15 -0400, Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, Macromedia's for one. Not sure if has ten, but there's a quite a few
there. Anandtech was running quite a few as well. There's William Sonoma.
How about Toys'R'Us before they switched over? Pottery Barn.
I think
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
Huh? So suggesting mixing VB.NET and C# to squeeze more power from a .NET
app that is what, a crutch? And what about writing straight Java when JSP
can't do enough?
By design, a .NET app is meant to use any IL conformate language. As well,
Is it safe then to assume that you don't use a QA server for .NET
development, or are you somehow doing that without paying for a Windows
license?
No, it is not. My MSDN subscription allows me to run multiple Windows server
for non-production purposes.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to
develop. And everything else is hard/takes longer/is more expensive. So
why do I want to use something hard like Java to do something in CF?
Actually, I would call it
From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Feel free to challenge them.
And feel free to move this conversation elsewhere...
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Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I vote to take this
topic somewhere else. Macromedia Forums is usually the best place to
have the I hate ColdFusion debates.
I, personally, stopped using the forums mainly because of these
religious wars. We all know CF rocks, but it's not the
Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
case, then you need to factor in the cost of Windows licenses as well as
potential server management costs. In addition, you might be able to scale
up better with a non-Windows solution (which generally limits you to
Kwang Suh wrote:
Kwang Suh wrote:
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
savings.
I'd like to see the total cost break-down for a
Who said anything about fixing? I'd like more functionality:
I'd like to have cftransaction work across multiple
databases. And allowed nested cftransactions.
I'd like some other number type beside floating point.
I'd like a concept of null type.
I'd like to have CFCs have interfaces,
I'd say most people run CF on Windows, so they're paying
for the Windows licenses on top of CF license.
Perhaps, but if they are, do you really think they're so cost-conscious
about the price of CF server licensing if they're willing to pay for Windows
licensing without batting an eye? I like
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers. With CF,
that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you can find CF at.
With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be some additional cost
savings.
If you're myopic enough to look at that as a valid comparison then you really
Kwang Suh wrote:
I said I'd like to see the total cost break-down for sites like that,
not a list of possible candidates.
You doubted that there were companies that used numbers of web servers. I have
provided you some. Feel free to ask them. Sean has already answered for you.
I don't have
There are no professional CF hosting in Turkey :( So we always need to buy
CF to host our projects which should be hosted at different geographical
I'm not sure I understand this. If there's no CF hosting in Turkey, why not
create some? At the very least it would seem that you could host in
Kwang, I think I know why you've had so many jobs..
You send all the damn day goofing off and bitching.
I'll be the first just to come out and say STFU.
You're preaching to the converted, you're wasting your time.
Now please, for the love of God, drop it and move on.
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004
And at this point I'll have to ask that the conversation be moved to CF-OT
or CF-Community. Thank you.
Kwang, I think I know why you've had so many jobs..
You send all the damn day goofing off and bitching.
I'll be the first just to come out and say STFU.
You're preaching to the converted,
Macromedia is NOT Microsoft. ColdFusion cannot be free at
that level. Microsoft sells (rather expensive) servers and
supporting tools (SQL Server, Exchange, etc) by taking a hit
on .NET. How would MM recoup the massive costs of
development for giving away CF?
They use the free .NET
No, it is not. My MSDN subscription allows me to run
multiple Windows server for non-production purposes.
Really? How many concurrent Windows Server 2003 installations can you get
from your single MSDN subscription? How many concurrent activations can you
get with a single MSDN serial number?
They use the free .NET server tools to sell their
development software. Lots of companies do this.
No, I don't think this is how it works for MS. I strongly suspect that both
their free server tools and their development tools are made available at
prices below their actual production costs
When .NET came out, and people started to use and understand
it better, the Java community did what every CF person should
be doing: they learned .NET. And then they deconstructed it.
And then they asked themselves:
What can we take from .NET to make Java better
I don't know about the
Poor Will. All he wanted was a better ColdFusion.
There are two problems with this statement. First, what he thinks is better
may differ from what others think is better. Second, his original post here
didn't really focus on what he wanted CF to do that it doesn't already do.
Instead, he posted
the following just plopped into my inbox (after my short rant)
i think all the bandwagon jumpers are funny
have fun, cfm has always been here probably will always be here, when .net
survives as long as cfm then come back
and smack yer lips
until then, dont let the door hit ya where the good
actually what set me off on poor wills original post was him saying that he
could build a .net app faster then anyone could in cfm but then he says that
its with this great $2500 program (when there are several free cfm ones). And
he wasnt comparing apples to apples and if anyone thinks what he
I agree with Dave, adding the null concept would not allow us to make
applications we cannot make now. However adding flash remoting did and
webservices did. I'd say MM does an extremely good job of picking what
features to add, and which to outright ignore.
-Adam
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:16:29
To everyone that posted to this thread, Forta, Corfield, all the CF'ers like
me. I'm TIRED of seeing a ton of job listings for ASP.NET and a few for CF!!
I'm TIRED of it! What's going on here?? Could someone please explain this
phenomenon to me without discussing irrelevant information!
If
because the ppl who have the cfm jobs arent so damn wishy washy and dont give
it up at the 1st sign of a new toy
what u said is like saying that when u look in the newspaper for a job say
selling cars that there are a crap load more available for the ford dealerships
and very few if any for a
wow look at that
cobol:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 887 matching your search request.
c++:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 5566 matching your search request.
jsp:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 1909 matching your search request.
java and j2ee:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 9341 matching your search request.
Um... so perhaps if you are going for
Hi Jaye,
I've seen this graph six months ago. While the headline could be
frustrating, look at the red line above them...
Ulf
Jaye Morris schrieb:
Interesting conversation. Just thought I would throw in this reality check.
http://tinyurl.com/323mw or the full URL:
Great link :) - The great thing about that is CFML can run on the top
3 (reading .net for asp.net)
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:49:19 -0500, Jaye Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting conversation. Just thought I would throw in this reality check.
http://tinyurl.com/323mw or the full URL:
Actually, that was my precise point. But thanks.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:06:41 +0100, Ulf Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jaye,
I've seen this graph six months ago. While the headline could be
frustrating, look at the red line above them...
Ulf
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To everyone that posted to this thread, Forta, Corfield, all
the CF'ers like me. I'm TIRED of seeing a ton of job listings
for ASP.NET and a few for CF!! I'm TIRED of it! What's going
on here?? Could someone please explain this phenomenon to me
without discussing irrelevant information!
Interesting conversation. Just thought I would throw in this reality check.
http://tinyurl.com/323mw or the full URL:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:41:22 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
damn i missed all this!
coldfusion will never last, ASP ROCKS and it will be the future!!
LMFAO!
-- Original Message --
From: Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:52:55 +0100
I think I am going to switch to
Well his point ASP.NET is taking market away from CF is true in this
company :) So he has at least one fact :P
Ok ok I'll shut up :P
Micha Schopman
Project Manager
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
In most languages that support threads, not only can threads be started, they
can be paused and stopped.
Is that possible using the code that Damon has showed?
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ASP.NET is taking market away from CF! WHY?
Are you sure? Do you have numbers for that? Either way, you're
probably right, but if so, can you show that it's for any
technological reasons other than the gullibility of IT managers when
it comes to the Microsoft marketing machine?
I'd like you
Let's say I have a website I want to cluster on 10 servers.
With CF, that's 10 production licenses at whatever cost you
can find CF at. With .NET, it's zero cost, so there can be
some additional cost savings.
Again, your assumption is that everyone's using Windows. If that's not the
case,
I agree with you Michael.
Rey...
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, but I vote to take
: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF
If you need to do something like that you can easily write it in Java
and call the java code from a CFML template.
Spike
Kwang Suh wrote:
In most languages that support threads, not only can threads be started, they
can be paused and stopped.
Is that possible using the code that Damon has
so bad, someone can inform Tim Uzzanti that there're actually busy
websites built in CF :-)
You'd think he could just look at his logs... CrystalTech hosts several popular
CF sites (very well, I might add).
I still wonder at the context of the quote (the queote itself has been
published her
Ah yes, the old use Java when CF can't do it crutch.
I though the whole point of CF was to make it easy for developers to
develop. And everything else is hard/takes longer/is more expensive.
So why do I want to use something hard like Java to do something in
CF?
The whole point of CF
Please don't belittle my comments with such an offhand packaged
response.
Seriously, I'm not belittling you. I've heard that phrase used so many times
for so many situations, it's perhaps an indication to MM that they need to
build in some more functionality, especially to keep up with the
I do contract work for a rather large oilfield company and have been
doing so for several years. I really never get the impression that
the costs of the CF software itself is an issue at all for anyone
here. CF is the companies defined standard for web applications,
yet ASPX projects repeatedly
pain man. Don't give up on CFML. Just diversify a
little so you don't get blindsided.
Rey Bango...
- Original Message -
From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON
, but
the numbers do not equate to the hypotheses that it is at ColdFusion's
expense.
--- Ben
-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
To everyone that posted
Obviously there are more ASP based applications than CF. However that
is not to say that CF hasn't been gaining on ASP.
I really don't know about Dice, I haven't looked at that site since
the late 90s, but It seems to me that there are alot more CF jobs than
there were last year, and the year
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:29:02 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you do nothing else, do this. Go to dice.com, you know the site.
Run a search for coldfusion! Here are the results:
Jobs 1 - 30 of 201 matching your search request.
Run a search for ASP.NET. Here are those
Is anyone else getting it other than me???
Isn't this a line from Zoolanders?
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Message:
Will,
This is probably not a good place for this discussion. It's CF-Talk,
not CF-Bash.
ASP.NET is taking market away from CF! WHY?
Are you sure? Do you have numbers for that? Either way, you're
probably right, but if so, can you show that it's for any
technological reasons other than the
Will Tomlinson wrote:
I'm going to bring this one in from the Blackstone Beta thread yesterday
because I think we all need to talk about this. I'm not going to rehash most
of what's been said in that thread.
Glad you're not planning on going over what was said yesterday. There
was very
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:16:04 -0400, Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not going to rehash most of what's been said in that thread.
Er, sure you are. You even repeated Tim Uzzanti's quote *in* *full*!
It's not a case of right or wrong, just that you're not going to get
everyone to agree
Just a few comments.
-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH POPCON!!
I'm going to bring this one in from the Blackstone Beta thread yesterday
because I think
Both platforms have their own good and bad issues. I have been using CF since
the first versions and since the .NET platform was marketed (and the management
board showed twinkeling eyes, hey another Microsoft cashcow) also started using
C#. I like both, unfortunately management has problems
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