RE: CE Mark with exclamation mark

2011-10-05 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of lauren_cr...@amat.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:03 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: CE Mark with exclamation mark Keep in mind there is also an bold-exclamation-mark-inside-a-bold-circle

RE: CE Mark with exclamation mark

2011-10-05 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:43 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: CE Mark with exclamation mark The '!' notation is typically used within triangle (ISO symbol 0434) to indicate that there is something important that the operator needs

RE: CE Mark with exclamation mark

2011-10-05 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The '!' notation is typically used within triangle (ISO symbol 0434) to indicate that there is something important that the operator needs to read about; or that it is being used to indicate special components on a PCB. Is a stand-alone '!' being proposed? Did they refer to a symbol out of

RE: CE mark

2011-08-26 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello Peter, I recommend reviewing the Blue Guide h tp://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/s ngle-market-goods/files/blue-guide/guidepublic_en.pdf . Section 5.4 describes the EC declaration of conformity, and sections 3.1 through 3.3 will describe the roles related to the manufacturer,

RE: CE mark

2011-08-26 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Peter, The Machinery Directive Guide gives excellent guidance on these sorts of questions à http://www.cen.eu/cen/Sect rs/Sectors/Machinery/Documents/guide_ap lication_directive_2006-42-ec-2nd_edit_6-2010_en.pdf Search on “established outside the EU”. It can be a tricky point, but a

RE: CE Mark on Transmitter Modules

2010-12-10 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Woodgate Verzonden: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:44 PM Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: Re: CE Mark on Transmitter Modules In message AANLkTi=ZrhV-OUORQM91HxQRbujdBrxhBk=-pslbb...@mail.gmail.com, dated Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com writes: 1. For the module to be installed

Re: CE Mark on Transmitter Modules

2010-12-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message AANLkTi=ZrhV-OUORQM91HxQRbujdBrxhBk=-pslbb...@mail.gmail.com, dated Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com writes: 1. For the module to be installed in lighting equipment, does EN55015 emission standard apply? EN 55015 applies to the whole product, not to individual

Re: CE Mark on Transmitter Modules

2010-12-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Grace RTTE is good enough as it references the EMC and the LVD without the voltage limits. Your standards seem to be correct, emissions are covered in the 489 standard. Safety is required even though you only have 3.3 V Best Regards Peter Merguerian Peter@Goglobal http://compliance.com

Re: CE Mark on Transmitter Modules

2010-12-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Thank you very much, Gert. For a 3.3Vdc input 2.4GHz DSSS transmitter module (physical size 1 x 2): 1. For the module to be installed in lighting equipment, does EN55015 emission standard apply? 2. How to apply ESD, EFT, Surge, voltage dips and short interruptions to a transmitter module?

RE: CE Mark on Transmitter Modules

2010-12-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Yes, the ce mark is granted under the RTTE directive, but the basic requirements of the LVD and EMC directive apply by their standards being listed under the RTTE directive also. Choose your standards from the list of harmonized standards for the RTTE directive. If this is a short range

Re: CE mark Adaptor for Medical equipment

2006-08-07 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Roger, The European Power Supply Manufacturer's Association has a guidance document http://www.epsma.org/pdf/CE%20Marking_March%202002.pdf Best Regards, Peter roger...@astec-asia.com wrote: Hi, An adaptor (stand-alone power supply unit) is required to CE mark to the Low Voltage

Re: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 200604281522.k3sfmdjq014...@smtp41.singnet.com.sg, dated Fri, 28 Apr 2006, kohscp koh...@singnet.com.sg writes All the response is not going convince the management guys. A real life case of penalty (or some sort of prosecution case) would be more effective in putting the message

RE: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: CE mark 5mm height I have personally been involved in an instance of a CE mark being called out by customs authorities for being too small. The device had a surface area of 15cm^2 The mark was about 3mm, and the action was resolved with an agreement to correct

Re: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 4be0b2b96f73e3448c6f86309fc15ca6035ca...@iticpm01.innotek-inc.com, dated Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Clif Brick clif.br...@invisibletech.com writes I have personally been involved in an instance of a CE mark being called out by customs authorities for being too small. The device had a surface

RE: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I have personally been involved in an instance of a CE mark being called out by customs authorities for being too small. The device had a surface area of 15cm^2 The mark was about 3mm, and the action was resolved with an agreement to correct the label on future shipments. Customs officials are

RE: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Sent: 28 April 2006 12:03 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: CE mark 5mm height In message f49bf8e684bc6c4188d1d63513c4ca07a47...@sparrow.dolby.net, dated Fri, 28 Apr 2006, James, Chris c...@dolby.co.uk writes Mark must be 5mm but when it won't fit may be applied to the packaging/accompanying

Re: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message f49bf8e684bc6c4188d1d63513c4ca07a47...@sparrow.dolby.net, dated Fri, 28 Apr 2006, James, Chris c...@dolby.co.uk writes Mark must be 5mm but when it won't fit may be applied to the packaging/accompanying docs: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/faq/ce-mark.htm This whole thing is

RE: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of James, Chris Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:37 To: Nick Williams; kohscp Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: CE mark 5mm height Mark must be 5mm but when it won't fit may be applied to the packaging

RE: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...@ieee.org Subject: Re: CE mark 5mm height From the Commission's Guide to the implementation of directives based on the New Approach and the Global Approach: According to the Directives relating to machinery, personal protective equipment, active implantable medical devices, medical devices

RE: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Koh Many Directives also include the statement, The minimum size requirement may be waived for small scale equipment. This really means that if the equipment is large enough to receive a 5mm mark, then that is what it should be, but if the equipment is very small, then the size of the mark may

Re: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From the Commission's Guide to the implementation of directives based on the New Approach and the Global Approach: According to the Directives relating to machinery, personal protective equipment, active implantable medical devices, medical devices, potentially explosives [sic] atmospheres,

Re: CE mark 5mm height

2006-04-28 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 200604272154.k3rlsapx025...@smtp17.singnet.com.sg, dated Fri, 28 Apr 2006, kohscp koh...@singnet.com.sg writes But however, I?ve seen lots of products bearing CE logo which is definitely lesser than 5mm height. Such as some electronic products, toy product and on my desk a

RE: CE Mark disambiguation

2005-08-15 Thread emc-pstc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
:54 PM To: POWELL, DOUG Subject: RE: CE Mark disambiguation Doug: Article 10(1) of the EMC Directive http //europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/directiv/text.htm has this statement: Member States shall take the necessary measures to prohibit the affixing to apparatus, its

Re: CE Mark for other jurisdictions

2005-08-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Jim, We do this all the time. We make one version of the product and have internal jumpers or selectors for various line voltages and frequencies. We also have built-in detection so it won't run on voltage or frequency it is not supposed to. So our products are hard-wired (so-to-speak) for say

RE: CE Mark for other jurisdictions

2005-08-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
If it complies with the directives you can legitimately put the CE mark on it wherever you are selling it. We have helped CE mark plenty of 110V products which were sold in the EU (this voltage is commonly used on construction sites in the UK). Some of these were 60Hz products which we tested

Re: CE Mark for other jurisdictions

2005-08-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in 2147f6d97127f6428e40ff35ea522b9701e75...@xbc-mail1.xantrex.com) about 'CE Mark for other jurisdictions', on Fri, 12 Aug 2005: From a number of responses I've had already I need to clarify that the product will be fully compliant with the applicable

RE: CE Mark for other jurisdictions

2005-08-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
From a number of responses I've had already I need to clarify that the product will be fully compliant with the applicable EU Directives and EN's needed for a valid CE Mark. The only question is whether there's anything wrong with the use of the CE Mark on a product that is not for sale in the

Re: CE Mark for other jurisdictions

2005-08-12 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in 2147f6d97127f6428e40ff35ea522b9701e75...@xbc-mail1.xantrex.com) about 'CE Mark for other jurisdictions', on Fri, 12 Aug 2005: Are there any EU rules that would stop us from CE-marking a product designed for and sold in a non-EU country that says

RE: CE Mark for Older Equipment Parts

2005-02-07 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
dfra...@lucent.com -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:29 PM To: jeff collins Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:Re: CE Mark for Older Equipment Parts

Re: CE Mark for Older Equipment Parts

2005-02-07 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
If you can, send them to a UK office and ask them to arrange onward shipment to the French customer. Ensure the UK company's name appears on the shipping paperwork, not your USA address. That way, the French Customs will see a shipment which has come from elsewhere within the EU, not one which has

Re: CE Mark for Older Equipment Parts

2005-02-02 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
In article g6d0oabiqiacf...@jmwa.demon.co.uk, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk writes In article 20050201220901.81424.qm...@web50606.mail.yahoo.com, jeff collins jeffcollin...@yahoo.com writes I think I already know the answer to this question but I would like to bounce it off this forum to get

Re: CE Mark for Older Equipment Parts

2005-02-02 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
In article 20050201220901.81424.qm...@web50606.mail.yahoo.com, jeff collins jeffcollin...@yahoo.com writes I think I already know the answer to this question but I would like to bounce it off this forum to get a solid consensus or find a plausible loop hole. I have a customer that has a piece of

Re: CE Mark and homebuilt PCs - Question for EU folks

2004-10-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Charles you have hit upon a loop hole you can drive a truck through. The local merchants have created designer stylized machines that don't come close to meeting any legal requirements. More often than not this type device finds it way into the home where it interferes with radio and TV alike.

Re: CE Mark and homebuilt PCs - Question for EU folks

2004-10-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Charles you have hit upon a loop hole you can drive a truck through. The local merchants have created designer stylized machines that don't come close to meeting any legal requirements. More often than not this type device finds it way into the home where it interferes with radio and TV alike.

Re: CE Mark and homebuilt PCs - Question for EU folks

2004-10-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
In article 2EC9D5B6733DE64BB79CEB13AC874A1A06C1C321@riv- excha2.echostar.com, Grasso, Charles charles.gra...@echostar.com writes Can someone please update me on the CE mark compliance requirements with homebuilt PCs? Although the Directive has weasel words about 'radio amateurs', the

Re: CE Mark and homebuilt PCs - Question for EU folks

2004-10-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
Charles, First thing to remember is that CE+CE does not always =CE. Secondly if you use the FCC thearoy this is perfectly acceptable from what I remember. As for the EU it is hard to say. I would think you could get away with it provided you are not selling the unit. Regards, Josh This

RE: CE Mark on components

2004-05-28 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Title: RE: CE Mark on components http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org

RE: CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Barker, Neil Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:40 AM To: 'drcuthb...@micron.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark on components Definitely not. ICs (and most other components for that matter) do not fall within the scope of any

RE: CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Definitely not. ICs (and most other components for that matter) do not fall within the scope of any Directive. They do not have an intrinsic function as they need to be installed in a

Re: CE Mark on components

2004-05-27 Thread owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 10:25:07AM -0600, drcuthb...@micron.com wrote: http://www.ieee-pses.org/symposium http://www.emc2004.org/ -- Once again I have been asked

RE: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?

2003-03-14 Thread john.radom...@modicon.com
I don't want to self-certify and so a competent body looks like the way to go. Dave, As I understand the EMCD, the manufacturer is the only person responsible for the conformity of the apparatus, so he (or his authorized representative in the EEA) has to issues a written EC Declaration of

RE: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?

2003-03-13 Thread drcuthbert
don't want to self-certify and so a competent body looks like the way to go. Dave Cuthbert Micron Technology From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:24 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ? I

RE: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?

2003-03-11 Thread Peter L. Tarver
From: John Woodgate Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:24 PM Peter L. Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com wrote: I also have a current need for this information and would appreciate being copied on anything off the list. Why off-list? It seems to me that a lot of people would be interested

RE: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?

2003-03-11 Thread Peter L. Tarver
I also have a current need for this information and would appreciate being copied on anything off the list. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com -Original Message- From:

Re: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?

2003-03-11 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com wrote (in nebbkemlgllmjofmoplememaeeaa.peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com) about 'CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?' on Fri, 7 Mar 2003: I also have a current need for this information and would appreciate being copied on

RE: CE mark on development/evaluation boards ?

2003-03-11 Thread Gibling, Vic
Hello Anthony, I have experience of such a product (7 years ago). Compliance to the EMC Directive was achieved through the Technical Construction File route with guidance from a Competent Body. Emission testing was performed with scope probes and logic analyser looms attached as well as any

RE: Twisting the LVD (was: RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark)

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Eichner
AM To: 'Peter L. Tarver'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Twisting the LVD (was: RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark) Peter I think that your question is answered quite clearly in the second paragraph that I quoted from the guidelines, where it states: 'Following discussions with Member States

Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-09 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8703CF9C54@MERCURY) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Wed, 9 Oct 2002: Having discussed the subject with John Woodgate before sending this message, I have now to correct his statement below that the

Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-09 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Barker, Neil neil.bar...@e2vtechnologies.com wrote (in 4f826f960057d4118ec3009027e2453808a51...@whl17.eev.uk) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Wed, 9 Oct 2002: The second draft of the Revised Guidelines from LVD, published in May 2000 following the Think Tank Meeting of 27th

RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-09 Thread John Allen
KT22 7SA Tel:+44 (0) 1372-367025 (Direct) +44 (0) 1372-367000 (Switchboard) Fax:+44 (0) 1372-367102 (Fax) -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 09 October 2002 08:37 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark I

Twisting the LVD (was: RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark)

2002-10-09 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:37 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark Although the wording of the LVD implies that the voltage limits apply to internally-generated voltages, there is now an official 'interpretation' that they apply only to supply

Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-09 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Barker, Neil neil.bar...@e2vtechnologies.com wrote (in 4f826f960057d4118ec3009027e2453808a51...@whl17.eev.uk) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Wed, 9 Oct 2002: My understanding is that the latest interpretation is that the LVD applies to all input or output voltages, i.e.

Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-09 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in 67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB603510F93@BCMAIL1) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Tue, 8 Oct 2002: By the way, the LVD is in fact applicable, because the product in question creates 120Vac from the 12Vdc it gets from the car.

RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-09 Thread Jim Eichner
AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in 67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB603510F7E@BCMAIL1) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Mon, 7 Oct 2002: However using the CE Mark requires using all applicable

Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-08 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8703CF9C3B@MERCURY) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Tue, 8 Oct 2002: I agree with your comments about the AEMC Directive, but not (in general) with those about the LVD for the simple practical fact

Re: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-08 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in 67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB603510F7E@BCMAIL1) about 'CE Mark vs. e-Mark' on Mon, 7 Oct 2002: However using the CE Mark requires using all applicable directives, True, but, as you just said, the EMCD is NOT applicable. --

RE: CE Mark vs. e-Mark

2002-10-08 Thread John Allen
Jim I agree with your comments about the AEMC Directive, but not (in general) with those about the LVD for the simple practical fact that the (current) nominal voltage limit for the latter is 50Vac/75Vdc - and few vehicle supplies are that high. About the only cases where I can see the LVD

RE: CE Mark on Product Packaging

2002-03-15 Thread Bill Ellingford
2002 14:43 To: emc-pstc Cc: Bill Ellingford; 'Russell' Subject: Re: CE Mark on Product Packaging Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe the statement below is entirely correct. It is my understanding (per EMC directive and published guidelines) that the Manufacturer or Authorized

RE: CE Mark on Product Packaging

2002-03-15 Thread richwoods
to create the full URL. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: Scott Lemon [mailto:sle...@caspiannetworks.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:43 AM To: emc-pstc Cc: Bill Ellingford; 'Russell' Subject: Re: CE Mark on Product Packaging Correct me if I

Re: CE Mark on Product Packaging

2002-03-15 Thread Scott Lemon
Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe the statement below is entirely correct. It is my understanding (per EMC directive and published guidelines) that the Manufacturer or Authorized Representative is responsible for affixing the CE marking and drawing up the DoC and that only the

RE: CE Mark on Product Packaging

2002-03-15 Thread Bill Ellingford
I beleive the change in stance is due to the change in requirement regarding a European presence. Under the EMC directive, the person making a DOC and placing the goods on the market would be an EU resident. The RTTE allows parties outside of the EU to make the DOC and hold the Technical file,

RE: CE Mark on Product Packaging

2002-03-14 Thread David_Sterner
Russell, The RTTE CE-marking includes a character (!) if geographical or TELCO-interface restrictions. LVD/EMC CE-marking is simply 'CE', no extra information. The compulsory RTTE marking is good; no one wants customers to break seals on retail packages to find whether RTTE products have

Re: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-16 Thread info
John We often come across large systems or machines where we ask the manufacturer for certification details for the components, they sometimes are unable to get much information from their suppliers, a common example is for transformers where it is unlikely that they have been tested, except as

Re: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-15 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that i...@uk.tuv.com wrote (in OF47447D6C.F0A6BF4C- on80256b05.00425...@jpn.tuv.com) about 'CE-mark compliance', on Thu, 15 Nov 2001: Test houses generally do not accept a Declaration of Conformity for any product unless further proof is available in the form of acceptable

Re: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-15 Thread info
Look in the archives of this discussion forum and you will see instances of occassions where no testing has been conducted. Test houses generally do not accept a Declaration of Conformity for any product unless further proof is available in the form of acceptable test results (from a 3rd party

Re: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-14 Thread Jacob Schanker
Amund: In answer to your question, I would cite the words of President Ronald Reagan, quoting Chairman Gorbachev, quoting V.I. Lenin: Doveryay, no proveryay. - Trust, but verify. Regards, Jack Jacob Z. Schanker, P.E. 65 Crandon Way Rochester, NY 14618 Phone: 716 442 3909 Fax: 716 442 2182

Re: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-14 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that am...@westin-emission.no wrote (in LFENJLPMMJB mhpeibnilieagcbaa.am...@westin-emission.no) about 'CE-mark compliance', on Wed, 14 Nov 2001: Hi all, Do all manufactures fulfill the EU-directives with testing in their own facilities or by an independent test lab? I guess

RE: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-14 Thread Allen, John
Amund Do you mean just the CE Mark, or the CE Mark accompanied by the appropriate DoC? Here is a an example of what can happen if you accept the Mark on its own, A few years ago, in a well-publised legal case in the UK, a PC reseller had his own badge placed on the equipment. However, when

RE: CE-mark compliance

2001-11-14 Thread John Juhasz
In the past I had been involved with integration of standalone products into a larger system. Ultimately my larger system would be required to be tested, and I would want it to pass. As the customer who would integrate production quantities of the standalone, I asked for the report. Those that

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-15 Thread Tania Grant
...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Re: CE Mark Actually. Certification Body, as in National Certification Body (NCB) . Tania Grant taniagrant%msn@interlock.lexmark.com on 09/12/2001 12:38:50 AM Please respond to Tania Grant taniagrant%msn@interlock.lexmark.com To: Gary McInturff

RE: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread Joshua Wiseman
...@ultronics.co.uk] Sent: September 13, 2001 12:38 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark Hi Ralph, The CE mark is not exclusive to EMC. Indeed, it refers to compliance with all directives relevant to the product, so a teddy bear will be CE marked if it meets the requirements of the toy

RE: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread WOODS
] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:42 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark and GOST Hi John, I am not familiar with GOST and I don't doubt there are people on this forum better informed to address your query. What I do know

RE: CE Mark and GOST

2001-09-14 Thread Chris Chileshe
PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark Hi Ralph, The CE mark is not exclusive to EMC. Indeed, it refers to compliance with all directives relevant to the product, so a teddy bear will be CE marked if it meets the requirements of the toy directive and all relevant safety

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-14 Thread amund
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:37:31 +0100 Chris Chileshe chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk wrote: However, the CE mark is a declaration of conformity and you can self certify. Self certify ? Yes, that is OK for LVD- and EMC directives. But a lot of the EU directives require work/certification from a

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Pettit, Ghery
; 'pettit, ghery'; 'chris maxwell'; 'chris chileshe'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE Mark I recall in the bad old days that Herb Mertel of EMACO, Inc. (an EMI test house in San Diego, since become a TUV affiliate) provided VDE specs translated into English as one of their products. I

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Ken Javor
...@intel.com, 'Chris Maxwell' chris.maxw...@nettest.com, 'Chris Chileshe' chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk, emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001, 4:39 PM False - you have never worked under French - German and Italian standards ALL in their native languages

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Ralph Cameron
: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: RE: CE Mark Hi Ralph, The CE mark is not exclusive to EMC. Indeed, it refers to compliance with all directives relevant to the product, so a teddy bear will be CE marked if it meets the requirements of the toy directive and all relevant safety

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Ken Javor
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2001, 10:48 AM Chris, This is why I refer to the EMC Directive as the EMC Professionals Employment Act of 1989. If they did away with these regulations, we'd all have to actually work for a living. Long life the regulators

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread jestuckey
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark I'll tell you what CE means. It means Continued Employment for Compliance Engineers so that we can Continue to Eat. That's about the size of it. No shipments to Europe equals no business equals no job. So do the tests, document your tests, put

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Chris Chileshe
Chileshe; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Re: CE Mark I think its fair to state that CE also equates to designed in level of immunity to electromagnetic interference, i.e. reduced sensitivity or susceptibility. In my view , a highly desireable because it prevents a lot of what's out

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Ralph Cameron
Subject: RE: CE Mark This understanding (appended e-mail below) is correct AFAIK. I also checked out the website http://www.conformance.co.uk and they seem to agree with the notion it doesn't really mean anything *any more*. Here is an excerpt from their site .. . We

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Pettit, Ghery
employer! -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:09 AM To: Chris Chileshe; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE Mark I'll tell you what CE means. It means Continued Employment for Compliance Engineers so that we

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Chris Maxwell
-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: CE Mark This understanding (appended e-mail below) is correct AFAIK. I also checked out the website http://www.conformance.co.uk and they seem to agree with the notion it doesn't really mean anything *any more*. Here is an excerpt from

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread Chris Chileshe
To: Jody Leber Cc: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject:Re: CE Mark Hi Jody According to sources within the European Commission the letters CE now have no meaning. Communitie European seems to have been assumed from the inception of the directives but now CE means CE. Slaint

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-13 Thread amund
I have always thought that CE was an abbreviation for an English of French expression. But if CE is only CE according to the European Commission, that is news... Can someone from the European Commission confirm this? Best regards Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:44:08

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-12 Thread Tom Smith
Actually it is Compliance Europeene. Regards, Tom Smith Manager, Homologation and Safety Sanmina Canada ULC Phone (403) 295-5156 Cell Phone (403) 875-1291 FAX (403) 295-8862 Email: tom.sm...@sanmina.com -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-12 Thread Tania Grant
as in CB Scheme??? Certified Body. taniagr...@msn.com - Original Message - From: Gary McInturff Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:04 PM To: 'Jody Leber'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: CE Mark Okay, now how about CB Gary -Original Message

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-11 Thread Gary McInturff
Okay, now how about CB Gary -Original Message- From: Jody Leber [mailto:jle...@ustech-lab.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:13 AM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: CE Mark Update on what CE stands for according to the compliance community: 1. Conformite

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-11 Thread Ralph Cameron
Leber jle...@ustech-lab.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: Re: CE Mark Jody, I seem to recall that CE is for European Community but in Frech, i.e. Communite European. You can try looking around the EU website: http://europa.eu.int/comm

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-11 Thread wmccafferty
Hi Jody According to sources within the European Commission the letters CE now have no meaning. Communitie European seems to have been assumed from the inception of the directives but now CE means CE. Slainté Mhath William McCafferty Safety Quality Manager Nikon Precision Europe Tel:

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-11 Thread John Juhasz
I have kept this link handy in case anyone ever asked me what CE stood for. http://www.conformance.co.uk/CE_MARKING/CELOGO/ce_logo.html John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: Jody Leber [mailto:jle...@ustech-lab.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:31 AM To:

Re: CE Mark

2001-09-11 Thread georgea
Jody, I seem to recall that CE is for European Community but in Frech, i.e. Communite European. You can try looking around the EU website: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/legislation/guide/legislation.htm George Jody Leber jleber%ustech-lab@interlock.lexmark.com

RE: CE Mark

2001-09-11 Thread Mark Schmidt
Jody, CE is an abbreviation of a French phrase Conformite Europeene. I have seen this on multiple websites but here is one for reference. http://www.ce-mark.com/cedoc.html Regards, Mark --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety

Re: CE Mark for AC Power Line Protection Module

2001-08-18 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Dave Hutchins hutch...@protek-tvs.com wrote (in 01c12740.dd271200.hutch...@protek-tvs.com) about 'CE Mark for AC Power Line Protection Module', on Fri, 17 Aug 2001: Dose anyone know what directive or EN standard is required for applying the CE mark to an AC Power Line

Fw: Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread ed . price
Posted for Dan Sicard: From: Daniel Sicard dsic...@reltectransport.com Subject: Re: CE mark self certification Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:45:14 -0500 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Hi, group, I have heard an interpretation which was saying that only a CB

RE: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
...@aol.com[SMTP:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:51 PM To: rehel...@mmm.com; jjuh...@fiberoptions.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: CE mark self certification Chaps, What in particular about a TCF contect puzzles you? Derek. Owner L F Research EMC Design and Test Facility

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Frank West
@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: RE: CE mark self certification Dan, I have to agree with Rich Nute of HP (message below), but I would like to add to it. Unless you have had experience creating a decent TCF and have a good example of one, it would be wise, at least

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread reheller
...@ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: RE: CE mark self certification Dan, I have to agree with Rich Nute of HP (message below), but I would like to add to it. Unless you have had experience creating a decent TCF and have a good example of one

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread reheller
Derek, thanks for the TCF information. This brings up another question I have concerning EMC test reports in general. When there was basically only the Europe and the U.S. to be specifically tested for, we produced two test reports tailored to these areas (graphs and limit lines, test setups,

Re: CE mark self certification

1999-03-03 Thread Geoff Lister
...@majordomo.ieee.org Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 04:19:42 -0600 Subject: Re: CE mark self certification Reply-to: rehel...@mmm.com Derek, thanks for the TCF information. This brings up another question I have concerning EMC test reports in general. When there was basically only

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