Very straight forward, Lee.
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV
Sent: 08 May, 2014 6:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Peukert # with Lithium Batteries
Man, this Peukert stuff is still confusing people!
It's long been a big complaint - the guess-o-meter - across many forums.
Nissan made some improvements, supposedly, but I completely agree with your
preference.
I do my own range calculations. They aren't very accurate either but at
least I know my basis. I have a general idea on the miles/kwh
That's a good point and I admit to doing the same. However, it's still
pretty useless for its intended purpose :)
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of David Ladd via EV
Sent: 08 May, 2014 10:59 AM
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If only, in their focus groups, they had asked the question: would you
rather have an accurate remaining-kwh meter or an fairly inaccurate
remaining-miles meter?
Peri
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Sent: 09 May, 2014 8:21 AM
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Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
If only, in their focus groups, they had asked the question: would you
rather have an accurate remaining-kwh meter or an fairly inaccurate
remaining-miles meter?
But most of the people in the focus group would
Well, that's kind of to be expected from Lexus-Toyota. They did their
experiment with the early Rav4 and since then have entrenched into building
hybrids, albeit excellent ones. They are showing every indication of that
entrenchment with their minimal Rav4 redo and lack of any other EV
I think they (Toyota in particular) is afraid they cannot sell enough BEVs
to meet the mandates (personally, I doubt that). Probably they perceive
customers wanting something with more-or-less equivalent range and fueling
times as ICE vehicles. So, losses or not, they are moving in that
At the time I bought my Leaf, the i-miev was only slightly cheaper (once you
factored-in quick charge and maybe something else - I can't remember). I
thought given roughly the same price that since the Leaf could carry 5
passengers, had a bit more range, and a bit more torque, it was the better
Thanks for your reference data. We do have a milder climate in Seattle but
the tradeoff is you need to run defrost - so heat and A/C are on. And often
the windshield wipers and lights.
On the highway (up to 55-60mph) the Leaf does quite well. It sucks in city
driving, which is mostly what I
That's clever. have battery box, just add wheels...
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Subject: [EVDL] Suitcase EV.
Cor,
Using the busses for grid stabilization makes sense. My question is how
does that help the utility avoid having its own stabilization system?
That is, while the busses are parked, they are doing some stabilization.
However, when they're out on their route, they aren't. So, doesn't the
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You wouldn't even need a central instruction. It could be the same V2G
electronics, but only one way. That is, when there's a dip in voltage
charging decreases. The bigger the dip, the more the charge shuts down.
I suppose it could also react to spikes and absorb extra current for a
moment,
Looks pretty nice. Might be a strong competitor to the Leaf depending on
real world experience and pricing. I hope they the electron storage
doesn't compromise the backseat toespace as much as in the Leaf.
Peri
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Bruce, any opinion on the Soul EV? It looks too well designed to be a
compliance car but, then, so did some of the other blacklisted models.
Peri
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Sent: 11-Jun-14 3:49:00 PM
Subject: [EVDL] Compliance
the buyer
can
make an informed choice to buy, or not-buy a compliance car EV.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014, at 04:57 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Bruce, any opinion on the Soul EV? It looks too well designed to be a
compliance car but, then, so did some of the other blacklisted
From wired.com:
... Harley isn't saying much about the drivetrain beyond saying the bike
uses a lithium-ion battery with a range of 53 miles. It charges in 3.5
hours at 220 volts. Assuming the bike has a 3.3 kw charging system like
other electric motorcycles, some back-of-the-envelope math
When you're at -30 there is likely near zero humidity. On the other
hand, in temps from 20-30 there is much higher humidity and I would
think brake freezing would be more likely. It's only happened to me a
few times. I found that by rocking the car forward and back, gently,
they eventually
Actually it can work fine in some flat areas. Anywhere there is mining,
higher sections of old excvations can be flooded and drained down to
lower excavations, then pumped back up later. I read an article on this
sometime back. Search for pumped storage mines and you'll get lots of
...that switching to EV's for commuting does nothing to solve
congestion...
Me, too. But at least when stuck in a jam, EV's aren't belching out
pollution :)
Peri
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How novel, a gas station being built :) I don't think I've seen a new
gas station in years. In fact a number of them have disappeared over
the last 10. Some of that is due to consolidation but demand is going
down!
Peri
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From: brucedp5 via EV
Here's a parallel way to look at it, except with wind generation:
According to the US DOE, in table 1:
http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/capitalcost/pdf/updated_capcost.pdf
the cost to build a wind farm is $2213/kW to build + $40/kW-yr to
operate. Add to that pumped storage of the same capacity:
Big mistake! (I knew something was wrong).
US peak in 2012 was 1,000,000MW (not 1000MW). So, total build-out cost
would be $7.5T. Ok, that exceeds the challenge.
How about just looking at coal?
US peak in 2012 (same table) was about 300,000MW. The build-out to
replace coal would be:
Yep, biofuels are a better short term solution. The technology to use
and distribute them exists. The production is improving and, I believe,
will be done much more efficiently than current (and using food crops is
a disaster).
Hydrogen can have its niches but I just don't see it being
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Sent: 28-Jun-14 9:09:47 AM
Subject: 3d printing auto body
Hi Jerry,
I saw this article via EV World and thought of you. I wonder if you
could access and make your Freedom EV
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:51 PM, Peri Hartman via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
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Sent: 28-Jun-14 9:09:47 AM
Subject: 3d printing auto body
Hi Jerry,
I saw this article via EV
This is another oblivious report on hydrogen as a fuel. I sent a
comment to the editor but could not figure out how to post a comment for
the article (logging into the forum does not allow you to post comments
for an article).
Here's what I posted:
In the article Global automakers split on
I wonder how that figure is calculated. Here, in Seattle, I've noticed
that most of the deliveries are by minivan which I presume averages much
better than 7mpg (maybe 15-20?). They'll drive a couple blocks, do
deliveries on foot, then drive a few more blocks.
There are also the small
This sounds very creative. I can imagine a canoe going down the highway
:)
Really, as creative as it is, can it be more effective than a bicycle
mechanism? After all, it's leg power and there are losses in converting
that to electricity and then back to kinetic energy via a motor.
Perhaps
Thanks. Didn't expect you to research it, I just thought you might
already have more info. Actually, it was pretty easy to find their
website, which has some further info:
http://www.humancar.com/hc-press/
Incidentally, it steers by leaning. I didn't see anything about braking
but perhaps
No iMiev? Even though sales are low, I would consider them a
non-compliance car.
Peri
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Sent: 07-Jul-14 8:44:00 AM
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But, wait! Can they stop at the biker bars along the way?
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Sent: 09-Jul-14 11:40:02 AM
Subject: [EVDL] http://teslaroadtrip.org/event-outline
Ben,
I'll diverge a bit from David's ideas. First, disclaimer: I bought a
leaf and have no hands-on experience.
One way you could have an ICE and room for EV components is to
completely take out the existing ICE and replace it with something much
smaller. Even though David claims the
Another thought, Peter. Is it possible to use multiple coils to focus
the beam? I don't know wave theory but I believe directional radio
transmitters work by having two or more antenae. Can something similar
be done with inductive coils?
If so, then using some sort of directional
Me, too. However, consumers might not care (unfortunately). In other
words, you might pay 15% more to cover losses but compared to what?
Consumers will be happy to just park and have the charge happen
automatically. Unless energy costs are really high, they will get
ignored.
I'm with
Thanks for your layman explanations. I follow.
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List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: 21-Jul-14 12:24:27 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: BMWDaimler developing 3-Hour
My city (Seattle) is studying leaf blower noise and other mal effects
and is interested in the viability of electric powered models. I have
the opportunity to help supply them with information and am wondering if
anyone has any knowledge or other info on what electric powered models
are
it in the same category as littering.
Rush
www.TucsonEV.com
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri
Hartman via EV
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:16 PM
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Subject: [EVDL] leaf blowers
My city (Seattle
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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:16 PM
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Subject: [EVDL] leaf blowers
My city (Seattle) is studying leaf blower noise and other mal
effects and is
interested
Just one more time, Ben. Do you really need to keep the ICE?
Especially with an old car like that - no computer, nothing electronic
what so ever, think how easy and simple your configuration would be if
electric only.
You'd have the extra space. Maybe, after a year or so, you could add
Yep, areo drag is proportional to square of the speed:
1/2 * Cd * A * air density * speed^2
where
Cd == drag coefficient (you can look this up for many car models)
A == frontal area: the area of the vehicle as viewed in 2D from the
front, in meters^2
air density = roughly 1.2 kg/m^3 at
You might also consider the i-Miev, if it suits your needs. It has a
smaller motor - reviewers say it isn't really powerful enough for the
freeway - and a smaller battery than the Leaf. However it's $5K or $6K
cheaper.
I see someone selling a used one in Albuquerque for $17K.
Regardless, I doubt that the customer would be liable for violating the
rule unless he lies or otherwise deceives the mechanic. It should be
the mechanic's and shop's responsibility to know their rules. As a
customer, in general, I have no clue what a shop's (mechanic,
restaurant, boat
I just looked at the total maintenance costs for my ICE vehicle (Honda
Odyssey 2000) and it is just under $20,000. Grant it, I take it on long
trips which I can't do with the Leaf but from a cost perspective, even
if I need to replace the battery every 6-7 years in my Leaf (and it will
likely
Let me ask the question slightly differently. Would there be an
advantage to EVDL members to include FCEV along with BEV discussions on
the same list? Would this advantage outweight any disadvantages?
In my opinion, the advantages are worth it. While current technology
shows that
What ever you do, it will be exicting! What a great collector's item,
regardless.
Peri
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Sent: 30-Jul-14 10:01:09 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: car bought
So, I'm
One more idea, to confuse you even more :)
You could drop the tranny and keep the ICE. That tranny is rather long
and there may be room in the space to put a large motor and a generator
without modifying the tunnel.The generator would charge the battery
or directly run the motor,
I think Dennis was speaking more of the angle of the glass relative to
the sun rather than the type of glass. Certainly, if a pane of glass was
parallel to the rays of sunlight, it would transfer virtually no heat or
light (only that reflected from other surfaces).
But they type of glass
The other problem with cordless charging - whether robot arm or
induction - is that it requires a certain orientation of the vehicle.
In my case, I back into my driveway because it's too difficult to see
when backing out into traffic. So I either would need a charge
connection on the back of
While I agree that there are some strong political and job transition
issues that will arrive with autonomous cars, I completely disagree that
they will be unnecessary.
Possible benefits:
- take transit in the morning, stay late, call for your car at 10pm to
pick you up;
- intoxicated; let
: http://youtu.%20be/Pz9-TZtySh8
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
While I agree that there are some strong political and job transition
issues that will arrive with autonomous cars, I completely disagree
that they will be unnecessary.
Possible benefits
I would tend to agree with you. There was a discussion a while back (a
year?) about how much regen gives back. I think the number, for my kind
of driving, was around 5% - for a pure EV. In your case, since the
electric motor will be used primarily for acceleration - both from a
stop and up
Ditto for Seattle. In Seattle, the current fleet will be replaced next
year with models having regen and extra battery capacity to allow
running disconnected. That will make them even more of an EV than
before!
It's true that with trolley lines, the routes are fairly fixed. However
the
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
To take this to a traction pack, I would want to try a similar
design
where strings of cells are spot welded in parallel for the desired
current load. As I understand it, you can put as many
Hi Larry,
Great start. My first thought is it might benefit the reader to tell
him why he might be interested in an e-bike. It may sound obvious but
simply adding some tempting phrases might hook the reader into finishing
the article. Do you hesitate to ride because there are too many
Interesting thought. I doubt it since chains have very little
resistance. I presume you are thinking along the lines of putting a
generator on the crank and then use that to power a motor on the wheel.
What might tip the scale would be to find a way to eliminate the
shifting. Instead of a
I think one could argue that if you take a 100 mile trip once every 6
weeks, an EV for everything else might work. Renting once every 6 weeks
would be reasonable, perhaps.
However, aside from the Tesla, 100 mile trips aren't possible. More
like 55 to 75 depending on vehicle and conditions.
Yes. Rental companies have those type of agreements - you get a key fob
or something like that and can reserve a car online and minutes later
go pick it up.
Also, there's flex car and car-2-go.
Peri
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http://grist.org/list/this-california-bill-will-make-electric-cars-way-less-pretentious/
If passed, the bill would phase out the state’s current clean-vehicle
rebate ($2,500 for an electric car) for people who can probably afford a
clean car even without help from the government
...
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Well, I've been on the TGV. Not quite the same sitting position,
though. Awesome, Bill, Eva, team!
Peri
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Sent: 15-Sep-14 12:03:07 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL]
Actually, in the big picture it is true - EVs consume fossil fuels.
Even if all the power to operate them comes from solar, please consider:
- energy to design and manufacture the vehicle,
- energy and materials to provide charging infrastruture (i.e. your
solar panels)
- energy and materials
I'll add my 2 cents.
I remember the endless email threads about the fouled Thundersky
purchase, years back. I think that showed how difficult it can be to
import something from another country where you have little protection
or recourse if something goes wrong. Particularly with China
Lawrence,
Have you looked at thermoelectric generators? I just did a precursory
look and there are some products available but I'm not sure how they
compare in terms of cost and density with solar. However, cars are
great at trapping heat and that gives and alternative (or combination?)
I think the main problem with hub motors is the unsprung weight. That
is, the motor is adding weight to the wheel and that weight has to go up
and down with every bump in the road. If it doesn't, the wheel will
bounce off the roadway which means less traction and control.
In this case, the
I was siding with Tesla until reading this response. That really
resonates with me but there's a catch. Does anyone know what agreement
you sign when you buy a Tesla? In particular, does it give Tesla the
right to disable the car after an accident at their discretion? If not,
I think Tesla
Yes, but again, it depends on what the buyer signed. For example, with
software, the licensing agreements usually state that you do not own the
software but only have the right to use it which can be terminated under
certain conditions. Tesla could have included similar language.
Ethical or
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On Oct 2, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Yes, but again, it depends on what the buyer signed. For example,
with software, the licensing
Here's another point of view.
Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle but the
ability to charge. Regardless of the range, at some point you will have
to charge. If such places are easy to come by and charging doesn't take
long, it's not a big deal.
For example, if
I like what you suggest, David, but with some minor changes. I think
it's too much to restrict EVDL to BEVs. Rather, let's leave open the
possibility of using supercaps or other methods of storing electricity,
e.g. a flywheel (I admit, this is unlikely to get anywhere) or even a
fuel cell
I think you're right, Ben, but I don't think that plug-in hybrids should
be part of the charter. If someone wants to ask questions or discuss
how to add EV capabilities to an existing vehicle (ICE or hybrid or
whatever), that's fine. But I don't want to see discussions on the
merits of
I think the solution will be much more boring than that. As battery
capacity increases and charge time decreases, we'll simply see filling
stations morph to charging stations. Status quo.
I'm sure people will continue to charge at home if they're able. The
rest will use filling stations.
From a technological point of view, nanocarbons are providing for
incredible new products from batteries to textiles. However, I've seen
nothing about their long term effects on the environment. What will
happen as more and more products containing nanocarbons end up in the
soils, rivers,
Wow, that's an incredible improvement for coal plants. I haven't read
much about coal genereation; what is this type of plant called and why
aren't we hearing more about this? I'd prefer to see coal generation go
away entirely but this type of plant seems much better than the
standard. It
Right. I'm familiar with the sequestering part, but was under the
impression that there were still some emissions at the plant. Also, you
mention this particular ND plant uses electric conveyers instead of
trucking, which I've not heard of elsewhere.
Of course, if the CO2 is ultimately
that EV's pollute more than
gascars.
On Dec 21, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Of course, if the CO2 is ultimately added to oil, then doesn't the
CO2 eventually return to the atmosphere during refining or usage?
Unless the CO2 is pumped back into the ground
11:44:49 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] PNAS report cites study that EV's pollute more than
gascars.
On Dec 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
For example, using CO2 from power plant emissions in fracking doesn't
help unless fracking has to use CO2 and the only other
PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
How do you see reusing the CO2 improving the picture?
Because, first, the CO2 is going to get used once whether we want it to
or not; and, second, if we can use that CO2 a second time, we
idon't/i have to extract an equal amount from
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On Dec 21, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
PH: you're assuming that there isn't some other gas that could be
used - perhaps compressed air
One way to compromise is to throw a small ICE generator into the mix.
Rather than build out for the worst 100 year case (which still could
fail to be adequate), design to allow for 1-5 short periods every year
where the PV system will be inadequate.
With a 2kW generator, one can run the
Whether a utility encourages off grid generation or not really depends
on some factors, the principal one being what their generating capacity
is. If they have bonds to pay off and excess capacity, they will want
their customers to buy all their power. If they are reaching capacity
and have
Further, where did the idea that all the decayed wood's carbon goes into
the atmosphere. If that were true in general, we wouldn't have any
fossil fuels! Much of the decayed wood turn into humus and stays in the
soil.
The only argument I could buy is is you grow trees at the same rate you
on this (and misinformation).
I have decided which on which side I am. If I was concerned I would
not do it. My heat would be from gas, but I don't support releasing
that by using wood.
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Peri Hartman via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Further, where did the idea
Clever. I like that :)
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Sent: 23-Dec-14 8:36:28 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000
Actually, there is way less motivation for the utility to penalize the
homeowner in a case like this. Unlike running the entire house off the
grid, this approach provides a more predictable usage pattern for the
utility. Assuming you don't switch the fridge and other major
appliances back
From NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/business/automakers-join-to-expand-network-of-high-speed-charging-stations.html?ref=business_r=0
On Thursday, BMW and Volkswagen announced a plan to install 100
high-speed charging stations on busy corridors this year on the East and
West
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Sent: 23-Jan-15 2:43:56 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 100 new level 3 chargers for busy corridors
On 01/23/2015 02:53 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
From NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2025624550_electriccarsxml.html
Bills in the House and Senate as part of Inslee’s antipollution agenda
would create a statewide electric-vehicle infrastructure bank to fund
new charging stations, using money set aside from state coffers.
...
A new bill
Lee, you're always so spot on but this time I'm going to disagree - a
little. Efficiency of PV does matter. You have to buy the units, so
the more efficient they are the less space they will take to generate
the same amount of watts. Most people don't have unlimited space, so
space does
Not that it would make a huge difference, but I question the value of a
heat pump H/W heater in winter. If it's taking heat from your garage or
basement, that is ultimately taking some heat from your heated spaces,
which means you're simply using more energy elsewhere. If you could
somehow
This is fantastic news! As much as I hate the oil companies, the best
way to get them to stop selling oil is to get them to sell something
else.
Peri
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Sent: 18-Feb-15 12:32:33 AM
Subject: [EVDL] EVLN:
Goren b...@trumpetpower.com
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List ev@lists.evdl.org
Sent: 23-Jan-15 4:28:20 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 100 new level 3 chargers for busy corridors
On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
The current
That's great to hear a dealer talk positively about this upcoming EV.
Of course he offered you something else - he wants a sale now. I hope
Kia decides to expand their locations sooner than later. I would
consider selling my Leaf and getting one!
Peri
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From:
I think a combo of PV panels and solar collectors would generally be the
best solution, assuming you have the sun exposure. Currently PVs are
not very efficient. I don't have any numbers of solar collectors but
I'm pretty sure they can beat PVs several times over.
Since home heating doesn't
. The system couldn't be simpler - it has
a
simple bimetallic thermostat that turns the fan on above 90F and off
below.
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Peri Hartman via EV
ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I think a combo of PV panels and solar collectors would generally be
the
best solution
). As inefficient as
electrolysis and fuel cells may be for transportation use, the numbers
look much better for large scale storage compared to batteries. I think
the grid is our friend and this is one way it pays off.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
Not everyone has a suburban ranch home with 2000 sq ft of roof. Many
urban dwellers live in apartments with a tiny apportioned amount of roof
space. Others have used the roof for other purposes - such as south
facing clerestorey windows or a roof garden. Others may have gables
with roofs
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From: EV on behalf of Peri Hartman via EV
Sent: Mon 1/12/2015 6:36 AM
To: Electric Vehicle
Reminds me of a scene in Raiders of the Lost Arc. No insults intended
for cultural heritage, but in the scene a Bedouin (or of some culture)
is twirling a sword in an intimidating way; Harrison Ford pulls out his
gun and puts him down in one shot. New tech always wins.
Peri
-- Original
Standard Oil (Chevron) did that in China in the 1890s. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil
look for standard oil in china, about 1/3 down the page.
But, for charge stations, I'm pretty sure such a monopoly wouldn't work.
It could work for gas stations, to a degree, because there
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