No, as Steven Weinberg pointed out there will be many more universes which marginally
support intelligent life as compared to those which are highly adapted to it.
Brent
On 11/25/2013 11:19 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
So the physics of our Universe is fine-tuned to our evolution ?
Sent from my
On 26 November 2013 17:47, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Where is the glamorization of genocide?? The U.S. fought WW2 to defeat
practitioners of genocide, when it could have just defended its borders and
let the Nazis have Europe and Japan take China. And now you accuse us of
On 26 November 2013 19:41, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 November 2013 15:17, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Most people wouldn't feel deprived if they weren't allowed to play
hockey, or go scuba
On 26 November 2013 17:51, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/25/2013 7:35 PM, LizR wrote:
On 26 November 2013 15:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
All things I do.
So why does purpose presuppose something like God? In fact I don't see
that something like God could add
On 26 November 2013 20:19, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
So the physics of our Universe is fine-tuned to our evolution ?
No, according to the Weak Anthropic Principle, the physics of our universe
should only be *adequate* - that is, it should allow us to evolve but not
in any way
I would say that there are only two kinds of explanations:
1 - What we see is so improbable, so everything must exist. only we live in
one exceptional corner. UDA, Multiverses etc. That include botlzman whales
2- What we see is so improbable
2013/11/26 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
2013/11/26 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
I would say that there are only two kinds of explanations:
1 - What we see is so improbable, so everything must exist. only we live
in one exceptional corner. UDA, Multiverses etc. That include Boltzmann
whales
Yes, and with comp #2 becomes a serious possibility since minds
automatically exist due to arithmetical realism.
On 26 November 2013 22:04, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/11/26 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
I would say that there are only two kinds of
All of this demonstrate how little we know about what we are.
I have some interesting hints about all of this I think. And I have to
formally demonstrate that, and sorry for the pedantry but, as I said
frequently, according with evolutionary game theory, the collective
sacrifices are needed for
The passing on of a paradigm--analytic philosophy
Max Planck once said that Science advances one funeral at a time.
Thomas Kuhn made a similar conclusion in his magnum opus.
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.
Not to speak ill of the dead, but the champions of
analytic philosophy-- the
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On 11/26/2013 12:24 AM, LizR wrote:
On 26 November 2013 17:47, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
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Where is the glamorization of genocide?? The U.S. fought WW2 to defeat
practitioners of genocide, when it could have just defended its borders and
let
On 11/26/2013 1:04 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2013/11/26 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com mailto:agocor...@gmail.com
I would say that there are only two kinds of explanations:
1 - What we see is so improbable, so everything must exist. only we live in
one
exceptional
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:36 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 November 2013 19:41, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:29 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 November 2013 15:17, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Most people wouldn't feel
Yes , but in a certain way, it is to reduce two mysteries to one by saying
that there is a relation between both. That does makes sense, since an
essential part of the mind work is to create improbable things.
2013/11/26 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/26/2013 1:04 AM, Alberto G. Corona
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.
I believe that maintaining that computers can't be conscious is wrong but I
can't prove it. But maintaining that a computer can't be intelligent is
On 26 Nov 2013, at 00:32, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 25 November 2013 23:17, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/11/25 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
On 25 November 2013 12:35:50 am AEDT, Samiya Illias wrote:
Bruno asks: Should we search, or not, for a
Concerning the pre nausea and post nausea, I think that a post nauseam
society is burning their last fuel, like a star burn heavier and heavier
elements until it implodes. In this case, following the game-theoretical
logic that I mentioned,
the naked reality comes from the disbelief in their
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Atheism is wish fulfillment.
To some extent that is true. Imagine for a moment what it would be like if
a Christian God did exist, it would be far worse than living in North
Korea! Here we have an all powerful demon
On 11/26/2013 9:28 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Yes , but in a certain way, it is to reduce two mysteries to one by saying that there is
a relation between both.
It's a common move in philosophy and even in speculative science. Penrose saw that
consciousness and quantum gravity are both
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Atheism is also the belief in NO afterlife,
Those are 2 separate ideas and there is no reason they must be linked.
There could be a God and no afterlife or a afterlife and no God; or neither
could exist or both could.
but personal purpose must be metaphisical. I mean transcendental, beyond
our own. Except in the case of people in the edge, that are concerned with
its own survival.
you can not find meaning working every morning for a society if your
society has not a purpose,a plan itself for going along.
The
On 25 Nov 2013, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/24/2013 2:43 PM, LizR wrote:
On 25 November 2013 10:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
That isn't a problem at all. It's just like the arguments about
the existence of god; first you have to define what you mean by
god before you
On 11/26/2013 10:03 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
but personal purpose must be metaphisical. I mean transcendental, beyond our
own.
Beyond my what?...beyond my purpose. That would be incoherent.
Except in the case of people in the edge, that are concerned with its own
survival.
Why is
2013/11/26 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/26/2013 10:03 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
but personal purpose must be metaphisical. I mean transcendental, beyond
our own.
Beyond my what?...beyond my purpose. That would be incoherent.
Yes. beyond your purpose.
Except in the case of
The whole enchilada: Leibniz, the first person, third person, and the brain.
A new mind-brain model for the post-analytic post-materialist world.
[Please feel free to use whatever I have written on the topic of Leibniz
to advance your own theory of the mind and brain. All copyrights
are released
So in the event that somebody actually does make AI, please recall this and
consider your philosophical system to have been falsified.
-Gabe
On Monday, November 25, 2013 6:17:15 AM UTC-6, Roger Clough wrote:
Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.
Dr. Roger B
Is there another version of this list anywhere with a lower density of
Cloughisms?
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:48:55 PM UTC-5, Pierz wrote:
See here:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-rise-of-slime3a-jellyfish-and-algae-thrive-in-new-oceanic-/4838478
It seems
No, you just have to filter him.
If you use gmail, just add a filter to send that to the trash or tag it.
You can add filter with almost all email reader programs.
Quentin
2013/11/26 Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com
Is there another version of this list anywhere with a lower density of
On 11/26/2013 11:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2013/11/26 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/26/2013 10:03 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
but personal purpose must be metaphisical. I mean transcendental,
beyond our own.
Beyond my
On 27 November 2013 06:39, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
But we don't know that. There is no logical reason there shouldn't be a
purpose to life, universes and consciousness.
No logical reason, but there's no obvious sign that there is one.
And there might be deep reason, yet
On 27 November 2013 07:22, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Suppose you work for yourself instead of society. Or as George Carlin put
it, If I'm here for other people, what are those other people here for?
What has posterity ever done for me?
This is an evolutionary choice between
It isn't necessarily true that ideas are replaced when their originator
dies, as Isaac Newton or Aristotle or Descartes (or Leibniz?) demonstrated.
Also, I think Kuhn's idea about paradigms is largely bollocks. (Even he
thought it was, when he got older and had a chance to think about it some
On 27 November 2013 06:38, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Computers cannot simulate human activities or experiences or
consciousness because they have to deal in code, which consists of
instructions or
The whole enchilada: Leibniz, the first person, third person, and the brain.
A new mind-brain model for the post-analytic post-materialist world.
[Please feel free to use whatever I have written on the topic of Leibniz
to advance your own theory of the mind and brain. All copyrights
are
Hi Gabriel Bodeen
Absolutely.
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
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Brent
On 11/26/2013 12:29 PM, Gabriel Bodeen wrote:
Is there another version of this list anywhere with a lower density of
Cloughisms?
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:48:55 PM UTC-5, Pierz wrote:
See here:
On 11/26/2013 1:20 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 November 2013 07:22, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
Suppose you work for yourself instead of society. Or as George Carlin put it,
If
I'm here for other people, what are those other people here for?
What has
On 27 November 2013 11:34, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/26/2013 1:20 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 November 2013 07:22, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Suppose you work for yourself instead of society. Or as George Carlin
put it, If I'm here for other people, what are those
editor hat on...
holistic doesn't have a 'w'
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The Fabric of Alternate Reality list would fit your description, by the
way. if you're really keen to avoid RC.
Also by the way, the answer to your original question (in the title) is of
course no, it's more likely that (a tiny amount of) global warming is an
effect of Mr Clough :)
On 27
On 11/26/2013 2:49 PM, LizR wrote:
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Suppose you work
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Suppose you work for
On 26 November 2013 21:24, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 November 2013 17:47, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Where is the glamorization of genocide?? The U.S. fought WW2 to defeat
practitioners of genocide, when it could have just defended its borders and
let the Nazis have
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com
wrote:
So in the event that somebody actually does make AI, please recall this
and consider your [ Roger B Clough's] philosophical system to have been
falsified.
It's already been falsified. At one time everybody on the
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