Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

> >> >>> Over-fitting is less of an issue here because it's trivial to write a >>> sentence that's never before been written by any human in history. >> >> That is not enough. A small variation on a standard IQ test is still the >> same IQ test for a super powerful pattern detector such as

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

of this discussion will become moot in a few weeks. Telmo > I think it's worth paying attention to the latest results, even if it means > having to watch some YouTube videos. > > Jason > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 9:19 AM John Clark wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 20,

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

Am Mo, 20. Mär 2023, um 10:44, schrieb John Clark: > On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 4:25 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> __ >> >* Are you worried that some of us are not being sufficiently obsequious?* > > No, I'm not worried about that because fortunately GPT-4 has not been &

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

Does GPT-4 demand adoration? Are you worried that some of us are not being sufficiently obsequious? I don't understand your preocupation John. If GPT-4 is indeed close to human intelligence, this will become undeniable in the next few weeks. Society will be completely upended. There will be no

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

You are not engaging with what I am actually saying. Telmo Am Sa, 18. Mär 2023, um 13:29, schrieb John Clark: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:28 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> Huge progresses is being made, but we are not at the human level of >> generality of intelligence a

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

Am Sa, 18. Mär 2023, um 08:49, schrieb smitra: > So, in the video we see that it got a question wrong because it thought > that 33 is a prime number. I would be more impressed by a system that > may make many more mistakes like that than this GPT system made, but > where there is a follow-up

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

Am Fr, 17. Mär 2023, um 14:11, schrieb John Clark: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 8:26 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > __ > >> *> Well, this is Machine Learning 101. If you train a model, it will always >> perform better* > > Well yes, if a machine couldn't learn then i

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

Am Fr, 17. Mär 2023, um 12:52, schrieb John Clark: > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:45 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > __ > >>> >> Forget the Ukraine war, forget climate change, forget Donald Trump, I >>> >> now think GPT-4 is by far the most world shaking ev

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

Am Do, 16. Mär 2023, um 18:30, schrieb John Clark: > Forget the Ukraine war, forget climate change, forget Donald Trump, I now > think GPT-4 is by far the most world shaking event and the most underreported > one. Many of us have been talking about the singularity for decades, but now > it

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

On 16. Mar 2023, at 18:38, John Clark wrote:On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:48 AM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net> wrote:> How did it suddenly become a closed-source for-profit organization that sells itself to Microsoft after taking advantage of such donations?I have no idea, I'm not

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

To be fair, Open AI was supposed to be a non-profit and received 100$ millions from Elon when it was supposed to be an open source initiative. How did it suddenly become a closed-source for-profit organization that sells itself to Microsoft after taking advantage of such donations? It is

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

Am Do, 16. Mär 2023, um 11:22, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 4:19 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> They most definitely were not worried about safety in the sci-fi sense.* > > Some of the things they're worried about seem pretty science fictiony

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

When they talk about safety, they mean corporate safety, which is to say that they want to be reasonably sure that GPT4 would not say something that would create a PR nightmare and hurt stock prices. They most definitely were not worried about safety in the sci-fi sense. Large language models

Re: The connectome and uploading

Am Di, 14. Mär 2023, um 13:48, schrieb John Clark: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:31 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >>> > One of the authors of the article says "It’s interesting that the >>> > computer-science field is converging onto what evolution has disco

Re: The connectome and uploading

This is very nice. I did some stuff with the previously available complete connectome (C. elegans). But: Am Di, 14. Mär 2023, um 12:05, schrieb John Clark: > One of the authors of the article says "*It’s interesting that the > computer-science field is converging onto what evolution has

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

Am Mo, 13. Mär 2023, um 05:45, schrieb Brent Meeker: > An operational test for intelligence requires that ability to act in the > world to achieve goals. LLM's are intelligent in that they act to satisfy > prompts. If you went to the beach and you said to a crab, "Write in the sand > a

Re: The original Turing Test

Am Mi, 1. Mär 2023, um 15:50, schrieb John Clark: > In Alan Turing's original paper in which he propose the thing that we now > call the Turing Test he gave this example of the sort of thing we might ask a > machine that claims to be intelligent and the answer we might expect to > receive: >

Re: On The Super Intellect and the cosmos

Obligatory Einstein quote: "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." Telmo Am Sa, 7. Jan 2023, um 22:50, schrieb Brent Meeker: > If there's a God then human beings could exist miraculously in a universe

Re: Physics? Ok Astronomers view 2 distant Water Worlds so following the physics I ask..

Am Di, 27. Dez 2022, um 15:11, schrieb Jason Resch: > > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 6:47 AM John Clark wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:59 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> *> There's an interesting relationship between the strength of the >>> electrostatic repulsion between two protons, and the

Re: A Christmas ornament worthy of Newtonmas

Raspberry pis are really cute, I have been playing with one with a friend (trying to create a DYI synth). I never got into Dr. Who. I remember someone who used to post here who was a fan, but I think she got annoyed with the list at some point. This reminds me of the "bewolf cluster"

Re: Trump didn't disclose a $19.8 MILLION loan from company with ties to North Korea when he was running for president in 2016

Am Mi, 7. Dez 2022, um 11:55, schrieb John Clark: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 3:53 PM wrote: > >> *> If you can nail the man for one thing, anything, go for it! I think he, >> because of the Ye-Ye scandal, and his Constitution claim, he may be truly, >> gut shot for 2024,* > > I also think

Re: Here is an OpenAi Answer-Bot to chat with!

I just tried it an I am not very impressed. It has the same ability as GPT to produce coherent text, but it doesn't seem to have any particularly interesting capacity to interact beyond that. Maybe I am uninspired, will try again later. Here's my chat log: Hello Hello! I am Assistant, a

Re: Is Elon Musk as smart as we thought he was?

upgrades, I look to material science, organic > & inorganic chemistry, tissue engineering, robotics. And, I could be > absolutely incorrect, and things could happen differently! > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes > To: 'Brent Meeker'

Re: Thanksgiving

Happy Thanksgiving to you Brent, and everyone on the list! Telmo Am Do, 24. Nov 2022, um 17:46, schrieb Brent Meeker: > It's a day to remember and to thank all my Everything friends for the > stimulating and informative conversations we've had.  Enjoy your > Thanksgiving Day with friends and

Re: Is Elon Musk as smart as we thought he was?

I once read the hypothesis that the real reason for him promoting hyperloop was to discourage public investment in conventional public transit, which he saw as competition to his electric car business. I also think that his idea of colonizing Mars is dumb. I often think the following about

Re: Is Elon Musk as smart as we thought he was?

On 23. Nov 2022, at 22:22, John Clark wrote:On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 3:51 PM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net> wrote:> What is the source of this, can you say?Huh? The man worked there and he's telling us what he saw. Who do you think was the source?  It’s a png, so I figured

Re: What If Humanity Is Among The First Spacefaring Civilizations?

Funny that you keep fuming about paganism and don't recognize the most obvious global pagan legacy of them all: the seven day week. It appeared long, long before Christianity and it was most likely organized around the classical planets (Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn). In

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

Am Fr, 21. Okt 2022, um 12:19, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:52 PM spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: > >> *> I cannot even discuss politics with my own sister, and her husband of >> many years. They will not discuss policies, so if I cannot convince them,* > > One of

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

Am Do, 20. Okt 2022, um 20:45, schrieb Brent Meeker: > > > On 10/20/2022 9:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> Am Do, 20. Okt 2022, um 17:56, schrieb John Clark: >>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:03 AM Telmo Menezes >>> wrote: >>> >&

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

Am Do, 20. Okt 2022, um 17:56, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:03 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> I mean... I don't know what to tell you. You really think that the most >> likely explanation for her hiring someone to install an email server in her

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

Am Mi, 19. Okt 2022, um 18:18, schrieb John Clark: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:31 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *__* >> *> I agree with you on Trump, but to be fair the brouhaha was about Hillary >> Clinton hosting an email server in her private residence to avoid

Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance

I agree with you on Trump, but to be fair the brouhaha was about Hillary Clinton hosting an email server in her private residence to avoid scrutiny of her actions as a government official, and I do not think that this is ridiculous to be upset about. Telmo Am Mi, 19. Okt 2022, um 14:50,

Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

ical problems to overcome. The Coulomb barrier says hi. Telmo > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes > To: Everything List > Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 10:01 am > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes > Asteroid In

Re: NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

Vulcanoes and asteroids are super-easy stuff when compared with the species-wide evolutionary step that would be required for us to be safe from global nuclear conflict. We seem to be going in the opposite direction on that one, as far as I can tell. I am a bit pessimistic on this. I suspect it

Re: Protein design, the inverse of the protein folding problem

The fires model (ProteinMPNN) appears to be more or less the reverse of AlphaFold, as John says. Given the 3D structure of a protein, it attempts to find a sequence of amino acids that would fold into that shape. Algorithms already existed in this domain, but they managed to improve accuracy

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

Am Fr, 9. Sep 2022, um 13:26, schrieb John Clark: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 5:20 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > __ > >>> >> Even if you have an IQ of 200 and spend your entire life studying >>> >> consciousness you will advance the field precisely as mu

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

Am Do, 8. Sep 2022, um 17:00, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:19 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > __ > >>> >> Like me Carmack is much more interested in intelligence than >>> consciousness and has no interest in the "philosophical zomb

Re: The code for AGI will be simple

Am Do, 8. Sep 2022, um 14:09, schrieb John Clark: > This is an interview of the great computer programmer John Carmack, he thinks > the time when computers can do everything, not just some things, as good or > better than humans is much closer than most people believe, he thinks there > is a

Re: Trump and government secrecy

. Makes me think there is still hope for humanity. Telmo Am Mo, 5. Sep 2022, um 07:29, schrieb Telmo Menezes: > If I were American, I would be ashamed of the whole Afghanistan affair. > Certainly not America's finest hour. But granted, once the decision had been > made to

Re: Trump and government secrecy

gt; On 9/3/2022 4:18 AM, John Clark wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 12:08 PM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >>>> >> Biden lacks showmanship but he is not crazy nor is he cruel, and if he >>>> >> is not brilliant he is at least reasonably compe

Re: Trump and government secrecy

makes him ineligible to hold > any federal office...and a pardon must be accepted with admission of guilt > implicit. > > Brent > > > On 9/1/2022 9:08 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> Not if Trump is in prison, and if I had 5 documents in a cardboard box in >>&

Re: Trump and government secrecy

Am Do, 1. Sep 2022, um 17:46, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:09 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > __ > >> *> Yes, I do suspect that the "basket of deplorables" comment cost her the >> election. It was a stupid and mean thing to say,* >

Re: Trump and government secrecy

Am Do, 1. Sep 2022, um 16:33, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 8:58 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *__* >> *> Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate.* > > Yes she was a poor campaigner and made the rookie blunder of telling the > truth by

Re: MMAcevedo

r > 412QE). Acevedo's first comment was: > É ótimo estar de volta com tantos familiares, amigos, seguidores e versões > minhas! Universo, abençoe a todos! Vamos começar este Meet-Up com um pouco de > Licor Beraio ( Licor Beirão.) > > > > > > -Original Message

MMAcevedo

I think people here might enjoy this (very short) scifi story from 2021: https://qntm.org/mmacevedo It reminded me of old discussions in this list and it left me feeling uneasy. Telmo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To

Re: NYTimes.com: We Need to Talk About How Good A.I. Is Getting

I suspect AI is already past insect-level for some tasks, e.g. image recognition and language understanding. The number of parameters in a state-of-the-art huge language model or in something like DALL-E 2 means that these are probably already more complex than an insect nervous system. I might

Re: Radical Physicalism

They missed it by 8 days. Telmo Am Mi, 24. Aug 2022, um 20:34, schrieb Brent Meeker: > Is it 1 April somewhere? > > Brent > > > On 8/24/2022 8:12 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> Second-order phase transitions is all you need, la la la la la >> https://arxiv.or

Radical Physicalism

Second-order phase transitions is all you need, la la la la la https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.13246 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

Before prescribing it is good to understand, and your understanding of these events (including the IRA comment before) seems really shallow to me. Telmo Am Mi, 24. Aug 2022, um 07:20, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > > Not all religions are papal in nature organizationally. This is

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

> I assure you I have not invented satanism. Oh, if you meant plural > "you", and me being a member of some group, I do not think I am a > member of such a group. Groups with which I identify the most are: I meant "you" the Christians, but I shouldn't have phrased it like that, granted. > -

Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold Threat of CO2]

Am So, 21. Aug 2022, um 20:55, schrieb Tomasz Rola: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:00:41AM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > [...] >> Sure, there were religious leaders who opposed Nazism, such as the Lutheran >> theologian who wrote "First they came for ... ." I cannot remember his name >> off

Re: Believe it or not?

Am Sa, 20. Aug 2022, um 01:24, schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > My Bayesian prior estimate would be around 10^{-12}, based on my estimate > that at most 1000 planets in a galaxy might have complex life and then any > ETI has a small time stamp on that. Lawrence, I am curious about your estimate

Re: Believe it or not?

Am Sa, 20. Aug 2022, um 16:48, schrieb Alan Grayson: > What would be your Bayesian prior estimate for intelligent life emerging from > Earth? AG 1, what else could it be? Telmo > On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 5:24:16 PM UTC-6 Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> My Bayesian prior estimate would be

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Do, 18. Aug 2022, um 17:08, schrieb Jason Resch: > > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 6:46 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> Am Mi, 17. Aug 2022, um 21:52, schrieb Brent Meeker: >> > On 8/17/2022 8:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> And since you,

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Do, 18. Aug 2022, um 13:38, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 6:46 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> Of course they could have evolved some more sophisticated strategies, * > > Yes but the other agents could've evolved more sophisticated strategies too

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Mi, 17. Aug 2022, um 21:52, schrieb Brent Meeker: > On 8/17/2022 8:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> And since you, like me, are a strong believer in Darwinism, we don't >> even have to go into the metaphysical. You might also want to consider >> that there is no

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Mo, 15. Aug 2022, um 14:45, schrieb John Clark: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 7:07 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> __ >>> >> Well, I like Stephen Wolfram >> >> *> I like him too. Mathematica is a beautiful piece of software and I bought >> h

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Mo, 15. Aug 2022, um 17:27, schrieb Jason Resch: > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 5:51 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> __ >> >> >> Am Fr, 12. Aug 2022, um 19:56, schrieb Jason Resch: >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022

Re: Believe it or not?

Am Mo, 15. Aug 2022, um 22:51, schrieb Alan Grayson: > Brent; I have no idea what you mean. AG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_probability > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote: >> That's not my prior. >> >> Brent >> >> >> On 8/15/2022 12:20 AM, Alan

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Fr, 12. Aug 2022, um 20:47, schrieb John Clark: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 1:56 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> *> I think John rejects zombies,* > > Yes and I have a very good reason for doing so. I know for a fact I am > conscious and the evidence is overwhelming that Darwinian evolution is

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Fr, 12. Aug 2022, um 14:55, schrieb John Clark: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 3:04 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> Oh boy, John Clark is not going to like this :)* > > Well, I like Stephen Wolfram I like him too. Mathematica is a beautiful piece of software and I bought

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Am Fr, 12. Aug 2022, um 19:56, schrieb Jason Resch: > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 2:04 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> __ >> Hi Jason, >> >> This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. Since Wolfram started going >> in this direction, something

Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

Hi Jason, This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. Since Wolfram started going in this direction, something that occurs to me is this: hypergraphs are perhaps one of the most general mathematical constructs that can be conceived of. Almost everything else can be seen as a special case

Re: The collapse of bitcoin

It's posturing, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Powerful people and institutions have some of their power threatened by cryptocurrencies. They don't like that. They have a lot of say on what the media focuses on. People who are more left-leaning have a natural antipathy towards unregulated

Re: The collapse of bitcoin

Am Mi, 3. Aug 2022, um 15:23, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > One pundit viewed the Germans and the EU simply wishing to be a large > Switzerland (neutral) and purchase Russian gas, while selling their Mercedes > to the Chinese. "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations;

Re: The collapse of bitcoin

Am Mo, 1. Aug 2022, um 16:47, schrieb John Clark: > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:24 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> __ >>> >> Bitcoin is between a rock and a hard place. If the number of miners is >>> >> reduced the energy efficiency inc

Re: The collapse of bitcoin

Am Mo, 1. Aug 2022, um 12:14, schrieb John Clark: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:12 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >>> >> So bitcoin can avoid problems if they can just find somebody that >>> >> everybody agrees is a saint. But you could say the same thing about the >>> >> US dollar if everybody

Re: Do you have a right to travel? Republicans say no.

Am So, 17. Jul 2022, um 08:52, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > I will use another democratic party media source as my contention that > violent crime has risen. > Denver 7 (one of yours LC) >

Re: Life expectancy vs. Health expenditure

nantially ruined by a health crises (or incapable of obtaining treatment), while at the same time promoting competition between providers. I think it is a good system, and perhaps sufficiently far away from "communism" to be acceptable in the US. Or perhaps not. Telmo > Jason > >

Re: Life expectancy vs. Health expenditure

above is kosher, it doesn’t surprise me at all. Health care here is a > worst case scenario. It’s the result of decades of anti competitive practices > and perverse incentives. But you knew that! > > Terren > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 8:13 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: >>

Life expectancy vs. Health expenditure

I am curious about what Americans in this list think about this: https://i.redd.it/qrjgb2aakhb91.jpg Telmo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Scriptural refutation of the Transhumanist Movement

I think that people who use the word "transhumanism" can say a lot of silly things, but I do not think that the idea is fundamentally silly. On the contrary, it is what makes the most sense to me. Firstly, I would claim that technology already hijacked evolution. Biological evolution works at

Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

Am Mo, 4. Jul 2022, um 07:43, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > Trumpo bitched at Fraulein Docktor Merkel who was big into Putin and she > didn't have anything to say when I guess the circus is in town but not everyone is a clown. > El Donaldo complained that *"Germany will just end

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

Am Mi, 15. Jun 2022, um 01:21, schrieb Jason Resch: > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 5:32 PM Telmo Menezes wrote: >> __ >> >> >> Am Di, 14. Jun 2022, um 14:18, schrieb John Clark: >>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:51 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: >>

Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

Am Di, 14. Jun 2022, um 14:18, schrieb John Clark: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:51 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > >>> >> I doubt Lemoine went crazy and just fabricated the conversation, but if >>> >> he did the truth will undoubtedly come out in a day or two. And if the >>> >> conversation exists

Re: Artists will soon be unemployed

They already are. * ba dum tss * Am Do, 5. Mai 2022, um 18:23, schrieb John Clark: > DALL-E2 Draws Anything You Describe > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It. "Come in Telmo! America to Telmo!!"

o, I agree! Telmo > as this *Black Swan* event that Putin started years ago, and made 10 X worse > this February. > > Much thanks, > > Mitch > > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes > To: Everything List > Sent: Sun, Apr 17, 2022 12:09 pm > Subj

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It. "Come in Telmo! America to Telmo!!"

>> To be honest, until recently I assumed that Sweden and Finland were not NATO >> members for cultural reasons. Perhaps a certain Nordic sense of >> independence. I now realize that this was mostly an appeasement strategy >> toward Russia. In this case I am still in favor of them joining,

Re: NYTimes.com: Don’t Just Freeze Russia’s Money. Seize It. "Come in Telmo! America to Telmo!!"

Am So, 17. Apr 2022, um 16:17, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > > I am asking Telmo to sort of give back with a short sense of what you feel > and think about Sweden deciding to join NATO. This would include Finland as > well, despite Putin's threats. This is an open placation so

Re: Trump and his best friend

me sources, I believe), and that possibly cost her the election. > This is not the 21st century I wanted but as Bill Clinton once said, "We play > the hand we are dealt." That is a very American observation that I fully agree with (also for life in general). Have a nice weeken

Re: Trump and his best friend

Am Fr, 1. Apr 2022, um 00:38, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List: > With pols I cannot rule anything out. Save one thing that Trump has been out > of office over one year. This you are not going to convince people of since > the war Putin started was on erb 24, 2022. The conclusion of

Re: Why do so many people hate Many Worlds?

Am Mo, 14. Mär 2022, um 15:50, schrieb Alan Grayson: > > > On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:09:51 AM UTC-6 telmo wrote: >> Am Mo, 14. Mär 2022, um 10:42, schrieb Alan Grayson: >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 3:25:08 AM UTC-6 telmo wrote: Am Mo, 14. Mär 2022, um 02:41,

Re: Why do so many people hate Many Worlds?

Am Mo, 14. Mär 2022, um 10:42, schrieb Alan Grayson: > > > On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 3:25:08 AM UTC-6 telmo wrote: >> >> >> Am Mo, 14. Mär 2022, um 02:41, schrieb Alan Grayson: >>> Aside from the fact that it's in bad taste, >> >> The truth is often distasteful. I know religious

Re: Why do so many people hate Many Worlds?

Am Mo, 14. Mär 2022, um 02:41, schrieb Alan Grayson: > Aside from the fact that it's in bad taste, The truth is often distasteful. I know religious conservative people who reject Darwinian evolution purely on the grounds that they find it in bad taste to suggest that we are close relatives

Re: NYTimes.com: Switzerland says it will freeze Russian assets, setting aside a tradition of neutrality.

> Stalin: "Always accuse the enemy of exactly what you are doing." That seems to be their current playbook indeed. Telmo > > I am not sure if these statements are related, but it seems that it may be > so. > > > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: NYTimes.com: Switzerland says it will freeze Russian assets, setting aside a tradition of neutrality.

To cite a Russian: “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen” – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin Am Mo, 28. Feb 2022, um 17:35, schrieb John Clark: > From The New York Times: > > Switzerland says it will freeze Russian assets, setting aside a tradition of >

Re: Ukraine

Am Mo, 28. Feb 2022, um 11:56, schrieb smitra: > NATO membership may not all be that relevant in practice. Russia isn't > performing all that well in Ukraine. Sweden and Finland should have > little difficulty in stopping a conventional Russian attack. NATO membership is a deterrent to

Re: two black holes

Am Mi, 23. Feb 2022, um 13:31, schrieb John Clark: > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 7:24 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *__* >> *> Could two black holes orbit each other so closely that they would cancel >> their event horizons?* > > No, if they got close

two black holes

Question for the resident physicists from a friend: Could two black holes orbit each other so closely that they would cancel their event horizons? Cheers, Telmo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: Scientific American and Political Correctness

John, I agree with everything you write below. These attempts to soil the memory of scientists who gave us so much in the name of some current cultural/political crusade is despicable, and the "normal distribution" remark is truly moronic. It reminds me of the "science wars":

Re: NYTimes.com: The Republican Party Is Succeeding Because We Are Not a True Democracy

> So maybe the human race can survive the USA becoming a failed state, and > maybe it cannot. So you have to ask yourself one question, do I feel lucky > today? Well do you Telmo? We both bet on the MWI so... > >> >> *> My point is: do we really need to drag American politics into every

Re: NYTimes.com: The Republican Party Is Succeeding Because We Are Not a True Democracy

Am Di, 4. Jan 2022, um 18:03, schrieb John Clark: > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 10:09 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > __ > >> *> "Totalitarianism" is a type of regime where any sort of private >> experience is ideologically opposed to, and where the state has total

Re: NYTimes.com: The Republican Party Is Succeeding Because We Are Not a True Democracy

Am Di, 4. Jan 2022, um 15:06, schrieb John Clark: > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:46 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *__* >> *> Isn't this an international mailing list for discussing the hypothesis >> that everything exists?* > > That has always been my understa

Re: NYTimes.com: The Republican Party Is Succeeding Because We Are Not a True Democracy

Isn't this an international mailing list for discussing the hypothesis that everything exists? Doesn't seem like the appropriate place to keep posting about local political issues. I would even dare say that it is a bit impolite to us non-USAians. The Portuguese general elections take place at

Re: SpinLaunch

Am Sa, 11. Dez 2021, um 10:36, schrieb John Clark: > > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 6:30 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > >> *> Going up "tens of thousands of feet" is only a tiny part of energy needed >> for low Earth orbit.* > > True, and I think the biggest engineering

Re: An odd signal from the Galactic center

>> > *and it always disappoints.* > > That's because every time a new astronomical discovery is made that cannot > immediately be explained somebody ALWAYS says it must be ET. Personally, > because I am unable to find a flaw in the Great Flter argument, I would be > devastated if we

On the Question of Whether the Mind Can be Mechanized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI7Kr2R1sVI Abstract: In this talk I will discuss the question of whether Gödel's incompleteness theorems imply that "the mind cannot be mechanized". The story begins with Gödel. He argued for a weaker, disjunctive conclusion to the effect that the

Re: The American Taliban

limbed high on the unreliability scale. > Now, we are the nation state that invented Isolationism (sans, globalist > corporations) and it seems that it is once again invented. Armor up, I'd say. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes > To: spudboy...

Re: The American Taliban

Yes, another area to bicker about, but policy changes, when not well planned > or executed do cause disorder. Definitively not the Scandinavian model, that. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Telmo Menezes > To: Everything List > S

Re: The American Taliban

Am Di, 31. Aug 2021, um 16:55, schrieb John Clark: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:39 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> *> People who want us to force us to use our real identity no matter what >> are usually the same people who wish to control us* > > I don't want to ma

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