[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do accept

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: Hysterical self- deceivers...pretend to be seekers after God in order not to have to face the truth that they are ordinary egoists. Not ordinary, extraordinary egoists. No,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
If there's especially difficult periods just after meditation, than the instruction has ALWAYS been (in the last 32 years at least) to take a few minutes extra of silence at the end of practice. For this you need to know/realise that you are in sutch a period. And even then, longer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
No, I don't think the TMO overall rude behavior can be attributed to stress release. Much of the TMO's culture has been set by MMY's behavior and directives. Most of us who have been raised in democracies and in the USA and Western Europe are used to a very different type of cultural

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? No. Should it be? In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations that profess to teach a pathway to enlightenment should be nothing more than big corporations, intent on making a profit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think the TMO overall rude behavior can be attributed to stress release. Much of the TMO's culture has been set by MMY's behavior and directives. Most of us who have been raised in democracies and in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? No. Should it be? In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations that profess to teach a pathway to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Jason Spock
Bonjour, TurquoiseB. Whose fault is it.? Maharishi or TM-org.?OriginalMessage- From: "TurquoiseB" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:49:01 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven) You're asking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:Could you be more specific as to what you mean by the "new advaita thing"?  It sounds as if you're implying something negative but I don't know enough to comment.Well good and bad--covers a lot of ground: Neo-advaita, Pseudo-advaita (perhaps the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
Yes there is a lot of talking about Worl Peace and so on. But do people REALY talk to each other ? If not, why not ? About what? The TMO isn't a religion or philosophy per se. On this newsgroup you have people like Shemp and Judy who are completely opposed to each other on virtually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
Quite so, but is it the case that the decisions haven't been worthwhile? Raising the price allows people to take out loans to learn it. That gives it far more legitimacy than if it was taught for $10. I can`t follow this logik. Pleas explane to me. Mr Satva

Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Advaitins

2006-01-03 Thread Vaj
On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:34 PM, coshlnx wrote:re: previous post asking about the new Advaitins and if there's  anything negative that can be said about them. I call them Neo- Advaitins.  Most are non-progressivists in the traditions of Ramana Maharshi and  Nisargadatta Maharaj.  HWL Poonja, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread mrsatva
Not only do I feel the NLP was a complete waste of TM but it whittled away what little credibility the TMO had left. Look, the NLP being a political party, by definition, had to take political and policy stands on the whole range of issues that affect the societies and countries they ran

Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Advaitins

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
Ultimately the only value of one's relationship with a guru is if you become realized through their teaching. Judging the validity of other gurus that have nothing to do with your life is just an exercise in arrogance and continued attachment to a concept/story of what you think enlightenment is.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
--- Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: If Nisargadatta was speaking generally in those talks, withholding the real methods of realization

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in the coffin of what was once a great movement.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Advaitins

2006-01-03 Thread Vaj
On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Peter wrote:Ultimately the only value of one's relationship with a guru is if you become realized through their teaching. Interesting--no mention whatsoever of the importance of having the capacity to pass it on to others to relieve their suffering!Realization with no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
--- Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anandamayi and Ramana Maharishi are perfect examples of this fourth way. It's the easiest and most difficult way of all. You just gotta be at the right place at the right time. And in Ramana's writings he makes it very clear that the impact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO charges for TM would in most cases *not* be able to afford it themselves if they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO charges for TM would in most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the political administration of the world, and apparently believed he could do it. Hence, the NLP. Another example of the danger of being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread Vaj
On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:Not only can't they afford TM, or most likely anything else now being sold by the TMO (sidhis, panchakarma, yagyas, s-ved houses, millionaire courses) but many of them would be kicked out of the TMO if they tried to be active. I assume

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO charges for TM would in most cases *not* be able to afford it themselves if they hadn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the political administration of the world, and apparently believed he could do it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the political administration of the world, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think the TMO overall rude behavior can be attributed to stress release. Much of the TMO's culture has been set by MMY's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 5:58 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 1/2/06 9:28 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 6:05 PM, sparaig wrote: Unless there's some strong grammarical reason to assume that desire refers to desire for samadhi, even the desire translation makes sense to me. Desires hold you back

[FairfieldLife] Re: Panexa. Ask your doctor for a reason to take it.

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.panexa.com/ Quite good. My son and I came up with an abreviated version years ago: Take panexa. Possible side effects include: paranoic suicidal/homidal activities, heart attacks, strokes. Amongst survivors,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-03 Thread Vaj
On Jan 3, 2006, at 10:06 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 6:05 PM, sparaig wrote: Unless there's some strong grammarical reason to assume  that "desire" refers to desire for samadhi, even the "desire" translation makes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should NEVER have done it, it was wrong, and it was just another nail in the coffin of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 2:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: New York Times: Playboy Makes Move in India

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, prostitution, including the use of kidnapped children, is rampant. Amma was gearing up to do something about the problem when the tsunami hit and she had to deal with that. Just recently, she's begun to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 7:44 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there's especially difficult periods just after meditation, than the instruction has ALWAYS been (in the last 32 years at least) to take a few minutes extra of silence at the end of practice. For this you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? No. Should it be? In my opinion, yes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, TurquoiseB. Whose fault is it.? Maharishi or TM-org.? There is no difference. He has never allowed there to be one. Any TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes there is a lot of talking about Worl Peace and so on. But do people REALY talk to each other ? If not, why not ? About what? The TMO isn't a religion or philosophy per se. On this newsgroup you have people

[FairfieldLife] Re: The New Advaitins

2006-01-03 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re: previous post asking about the new Advaitins and if there's anything negative that can be said about them. I call them Neo- Advaitins. Most are non-progressivists in the traditions of Ramana Maharshi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should NEVER have done it, it was wrong,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: Not only can't they afford TM, or most likely anything else now being sold by the TMO (sidhis, panchakarma, yagyas, s-ved houses, millionaire courses) but many of

[FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend the current prices that the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think the TMO overall rude behavior can be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite so, but is it the case that the decisions haven't been worthwhile? Raising the price allows people to take out loans to learn it. That gives it far more legitimacy than if it was taught for $10. I can`t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desire for samaadhi?

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 10:06 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 6:05 PM, sparaig wrote: Unless there's some strong grammarical reason to assume

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I certainly wouldn't think I could afford to buy a pig in a poke, especially given the TMO's current nuttiness; but if I knew

[FairfieldLife] Re: The New Advaitins

2006-01-03 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:34 PM, coshlnx wrote: I recommend that you read The Euphoric Nihilism of Ramesh Balsekar - by Chris Parish, and editor at What is enlightenment Magazine. You can find it at

[FairfieldLife] From a fellow in Hamburg

2006-01-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: From a fellow in Hamburg Hi Rick, I just read this post about the NLP on the Fairfield group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/83812 and had an answer to that. http://members.fortunecity.com/daojoerg/tmo1.html The newest understanding that I have from my own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/3/06 2:35 AM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it? Amma insists that her meditation be taught for free. Course participants may be asked for $10-$30 Participants in the Amma meditation teaching here in Toronto are charged about $250CND That seems extravagant, and out of tune

[FairfieldLife] MMY- Beacon Light of Himalayas 1955, Diksha for sanyas, Sadana

2006-01-03 Thread Ron F
note: this url is in Russian at the top then goes into English http://www.tm-sekta.narod.ru/maharishi-book10.htm#%E4%E2%E0%20%F0%E0%E7%EB%E8%F7%ED%FB%F5 While making a reference to the Mantras, in this manner, I feel like touching a very vital aspect of Sadhna[sic], which things are blurred in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the political administration of the world, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/3/06 7:31 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my TTC MMY said that if he ever became involved in politics, that we should know that it wasn't him. Some people think that the current MMY is a walk-in. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anandamayi and Ramana Maharishi are perfect examples of this fourth way. It's the easiest and most difficult way of all. You just gotta be at the right place at the right

Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than this on coffee, unhealthy fizzy drinks, and many more unhealthy

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's strange to me is the lack of young people in positions of influence (in the TMO). Why is that? Young people still have minds of their own. Can't have that. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the political administration of the world, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/2/06 5:50 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the NLP was a horrible disaster for the TMO. They should

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a fellow in Hamburg

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
The last time I was in Hamburg, I noticed a lot of people wearing tinfoils hats and looking nervously over their shoulders at the imaginary people who were following them. Little did I know at the time that they were TMers. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/3/06 10:47:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, Pure COnsciousness means nothing no matter how many times you have tastedit. Pure Consciousness means nothing if you're fully enlightened.Sheesh. PC isn't anything you can write home

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: Not only can't they afford TM, or most likely anything else now being sold by the TMO (sidhis, panchakarma, yagyas, s-ved houses, millionaire courses) but many of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: Not only can't they afford TM, or most likely anything else now being sold by the TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he

Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread Bhairitu
off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know what I find fascinating? The people on these forums who most vociferously defend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had a heartatacc Based on his actions, we can't even be certain he has a heart. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had a heartatacc Based on his actions, however, we're fairly certain that he hasn't got a heart. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Tariq Ali and Robin Blackburn: the Lost John Lennon Interview

2006-01-03 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.counterpunch.org/lennon12082005.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
It's actually only a mere $2500--a bargain. :) Just give up a few lattes and there you go. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Bhairitu wrote: But $4000 or whatever it is going for nowadays would be a different matter. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
And based on the actions of many of his current followers, I think we can be fairly certain they don't have a brain. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 11:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Based on his actions, we can't even be certain he has a heart.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 11:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Based on his actions, we can't even be certain he has a heart.  :-) And based on the actions of many of his current followers, I think we can be fairly certain

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's strange to me is the lack of young people in positions of influence (in the TMO). Why is that? I can only talk from my own experience. The Leaders in the TMO is so afraid of losing their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had a heartatacc Based on his actions, we can't even be certain he has a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I certainly wouldn't think I could afford to buy

[FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Dean Goodman
coshlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re: previous post asking about the new Advaitins and if there's anything negative that can be said about them. I call them Neo- Advaitins. Most are non-progressivists in the traditions of Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj. HWL Poonja, a disciple

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-03 Thread Vaj
On Jan 3, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:So I (Ramana) do Self-inquiry (Atma-vichara = inquiry into the Self, At- man) with them. Ah, he does it WITH them. There it is. There's the transmission of the state. That's his "pointing out instruction".Thanks for sharing that.Did he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread Bhairitu
Give up a few lattes, fall asleep at work and lose your job. ;-) Sal Sunshine wrote: It's actually only a mere $2500--a bargain. :) Just give up a few lattes and there you go. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Bhairitu wrote: But $4000 or whatever it is going for nowadays would be a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/3/06 11:24:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your average Joe and Jane on the street are NOT scientists and could care less about documented scientific research. TM is not the only meditation technique out there that relieves stress.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/06 9:41:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The price of TM is: $52 a month over 4 years, which is $12 a week, or $1.70 a day. Even poor people in the US spend WAY more than this on coffee, unhealthy fizzy drinks, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-03 Thread Peter
--- Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Michael's commentary: This is where many long-term TM meditators are at, in my experience. They have had so much meditative experience that they are There. But they hold onto the belief that they are still on the path, due to so many

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The 'hard' price of TM - was strange TB situation.

2006-01-03 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/3/06 11:48:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a benificiery of this knowledge, you are now proclaiming to the people of the world that they should not give up their cafe-lattes for Vedic knowledge? This incredibly selfish, since you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting this. Very informative and 20-20 hindsightful! I particularly enjoyed the exposition of the 4 levels of technologies of evolution, and the knowledge that Maharishi has unfolded. I doubt he

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