[FairfieldLife] What happens to the Guru when they give shaktipat

2007-08-29 Thread Ron
S :This sounds like a possibility..do not want to see her shouldering the grunt work anymore. She is getting tired - the form is almost 60 yrs old and the health has not come to balance. So many don't realize the toll of giving continuously takes on the health- There are absolutely no

[FairfieldLife] Do spiritual practice in the midst of activity

2007-08-29 Thread Ron
Namaste Swami-G! Namaste and Great Morning, *I have been working for almost four weeks now. My first impression didn’t last long: it’s not such a quiet place after all. The patients are really emotionally disturbed and sometimes violent. I have been kicked and bitten several times:

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the Guru when they give shaktipat

2007-08-30 Thread Ron
I am the wrong guy to comment, I am not giving shatipat. Mother Meera sees 1000 people each weekend ( my details may be off). In one of her books I remember she said I am not a Guru. Mother Meera labels it her system of Dharshan. I attended it - it is about maybe 30 seconds each person,

[FairfieldLife] Response to Kalki post and new sadaka report

2007-08-30 Thread Ron
Namaste GuruJi and Group, Namaste Another posting from the same kalki member: From the 2 people I know who had taken the leyham during the 21 day process it was a lot of being sick and having it come out both ends. One of the fellows had wonderful experiences and does so still 2 years

[FairfieldLife] Clearing the confusion, Kundlaini path

2007-08-30 Thread Ron
About the confusion: I am not enlightened, so it would be not in the best interest to try to clear things up, only I can comment on my own experiences, observations, and then to some degree what ::they have to say. It was not long ago, that is was My Guru only which I took to be enlightened.

[FairfieldLife] New prospective Sadakas

2007-08-31 Thread Ron
Come find the Beauty life has to Offer Be a Great Existence - Dear Swami G, Thanks for your mail. Namaste and OM Namo Narayan- 0- first off have you joined the yahoo group ? Yes, I joined last night. 0- very good. Please post your introduction and photo as this is an online ashram

[FairfieldLife] Comment on the Kundalini audio

2007-09-09 Thread Ron
Thank you for posting that. Being in the Kundalini path and under the guidance of One that has traversed the path from start to Realization, the guidance seems quite different that what MMY is giving, but that makes sense as TM is not the kundalini path. However, some of the guidance in my

[FairfieldLife] Disciple reporting Kriyas, advice given about Kundalini

2007-09-09 Thread Ron
Namaste, Namaste and O, *I have not had too much in the way of kriyas, Just a few leg jerks in the past. However, yesterday as I sat in bed reading Kundalini from hell to heaven, my whole body began to clench and jerk. What is the reason for this happening? I've read that it is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: UNLEASH YOUR BLISS: An introduction to the Kunlun Nei Gung or 'Bliss Practic

2007-09-09 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm did you guys watch the video? It seems so fake. Such a slick production. The guy seems to have no shakti at all. Main interest is more about weather there is lasting eternal peace with One. My Guru explains that

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened ( Sarojini) shares her day to day life

2007-09-13 Thread Ron
To help a little more, this one will share a bit of day to day life since Realization: The body wakes up, normal morning grooming still happens (for some reason the teeth haven't learned to brush themselves), coffee is made, the kids are woken up, breakfast is eaten while breaking up a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev pics

2007-09-13 Thread Ron
There is no evidence that GD choose MMY to be his successor - tmers believe that based on what MMY has said not anything objective. There's a huge decades long controversy over who GD's official jyotir math successor was, where there is some record, and there's no record at all regarding

[FairfieldLife] Why people have problems when Kundalini awakens

2007-09-13 Thread Ron
The reason why people have problems is most likely they are giving attention to thoughts of either the past or what if's for the future, then coloring those thoughts with emotions. So, while everything is fine at the present moment, it is not fine for the one who is off on the trhoughts and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Love, the Ramtha School and Kundulini

2007-09-13 Thread Ron
The scriptures aparently warn of the dangers of messing with kundalini- it is neutral like electricity, but electricity can be used for good stuff or to electicute someone It is MMY that said Kundalini is for idenitifying where one is, indicatiing it is not something to move one forward. This

[FairfieldLife] From a realized devotee of Ramana Maharishi

2007-09-13 Thread Ron
The Non-Dual Viewpoint on mind, levels, vision The following is a quote from Sri Lakshmana Swami, a realized devotee of Ramana Maharshi, from No Mind - I Am The Self; The Lives and Teachings of Sri Lakshmana Swamy and Mathru Sri Sarada, (p.102-3) by David Godman. Question: What are the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a realized devotee of Ramana Maharishi

2007-09-15 Thread Ron
was part of a process through which the message was conveyed. It was alive before his Realization and also afterwards. False identification died, not the mind. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: The Non-Dual Viewpoint on mind, levels, vision

[FairfieldLife] Re: Love, the Ramtha School and Kundulini

2007-09-15 Thread Ron
In reply to Ron, who commented that developing psychic abilities has nothing to do with enlightenment ... bud, I disagree. IMO, the fully enlightened person * General comments coming from my Guru are - a person cannot be enlightened- this is why it is advised for the sadakas in my path

[FairfieldLife] Re: Love, the Ramtha School and Kundulini

2007-09-16 Thread Ron
postings in the past, your guru is of the traditional variety. I read the interchange you published on FFL between her and your friend and was appalled. I intend no insult to you personally, but Ron, I have to be frank. I just don't go for that stuff. So I have no desire to communicate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-16 Thread Ron
This looks like it could be kundalini awakening or attempting to awake - good to have proper guidance, this is not available in TM- it requres working directly with a kundalini master that has traversed the kundlini path from start to realization. In case you have not noticed, I am in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY stops teaching kundalini....in 1970!

2007-09-16 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? Too Religious (Hindu)? or could it be that when Siddhas realize they aren't raising their kundalini (due to lack of tangible experience vis-a-vis kundalini as described by MMY in lecture Kundalini) they're NOT

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-17 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only guidance needed is one's own inner guidance. It's the nature of the human spirit to wake up. My comments, coming from my path will mirror that of Ramana Maharishi's admonisions. Regarding a mentor or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off-World's Kundulini Experience (Was Dear Bevan and Dr. Hagelin)

2007-09-17 Thread Ron
Well Bronte, The honesty of this situation is I have presented my beliefs. Your beliefs are otherwise. That's fine- so this is how it stands. [Bronte: The only guidance needed is one's own inner guidance. It's the nature of the human spirit to wake up.] Ron: My comments

[FairfieldLife] The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-17 Thread Ron
Namaste Guru G and all G:Having things stripped bare is not an attractive offer. hahahahahah people want to have *thier* lives but to have them Enhanced. And Surrender doesn't equate with the idea that *I* can get *Realization* . N: Being striped isn't attractive ether all the slobber and bed

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-18 Thread Ron
The enlightened say that there is no change when the body drops. People are drawn to very complicated explainations. My Guru's comments is that people hear it and dont understand it and think wow he is great. The complexity in all ways adds to keeping one from unfolding enlightenment which IS

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Thanks, this is quite obvious if one defines the me = I; the notion of a delusional self associated with the mind as an identity separate from Pure Consciousness. Hridaya puri:I suppose getting the definitions matching

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
This is a very complicated post - my opinion is it serves to get the mind engaged- where as enlightenment is very simple- the me falls away, then there only IS They say that then it was known that there never was a me, it was Maya- ego is the maya- so no cosmic ego's in my path --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
I just read this to swami G and she said yea, that's what happens It might be quite complicated , but it does/can lead the mind towards transcending itself. I agree that enlightenment is simple, but it can come as quite a shock when the mind attempts to reference itself, to feel itself as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. Of course, any statement will never replace the reality of the situation A more complete statement would be IsAS: modifications

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. Of course, any statement will never replace the reality of the situation A more complete statement would be IsAS: modifications

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
interactions by virtue of ongoing bodily impulses and the capacity to engage in entirely new, creative, and original enterprises. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: --The statement

[FairfieldLife] From the newest enlightened One- the is no*one*

2007-09-19 Thread Ron
Namaste Sajani and Holly, When one comes upon That which IS, all else - every little experience (vision, dream, sounds, Samadhi, etc) that ever happened is absolutely burned to dust. Visions, experiences, dreams, insights are all wonderful in that they can help to keep one motivated to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-20 Thread Ron
to express the inexpressible. It also cuts through the crap of the intellect, in that one doesn't have to try to imagine what is being discussed; it is here and now, part of one's experience. In a way, it's the thing that Ron keeps harping on, but never seems to understand

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-20 Thread Ron
. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: --The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. Of course, any statement will never replace the reality

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-20 Thread Ron
. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: --The statement, ...then there only IS is an incomplete description of existence. Of course, any

[FairfieldLife] That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it... :-)

2007-09-21 Thread Ron
That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it... :-) Response: A spontaneous thought that came is yes, as long as there is a me, you may stick with that but it is inevitable that when the time is right, you won't be sticking with the me as it will only Be, and the Me will be as stciky as if being

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Ron
--Nope, you're wrong. There is an I after realization but it's not the delusional I as before. Response: what happens to that I when you die? ( drop the body?)- and what happens to the eternal Being? By process of illimination- whatever is left after everything else is gone- this is not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Ron
I am not enlightened and can not say from direct experience - I can only pass along what 3 people here say in my path- then again, the honesty of the situation is unless it is known from direct experience, then it is a belief system- so you have my beliefs presented. I will let you know

[FairfieldLife] Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-22 Thread Ron
1. I had felt caged in all these years from not living in a proper vastu Response from my Guru when I asked is anything had ever caged her in- no 2. cognitions of vedas Response from my Guru- cognitions, discoveries, knowing what needs to be known about anything, sidhis, cognizing all of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-23 Thread Ron
I suppose the paradox is there- maybe in thinking of the snake and string it clears it up- The significant thing is a process of ilimination for what is transcient and what is eternal. All that which is transcient has a reality to it but short lived and therefore no reality so a paradox

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-23 Thread Ron
, and the time frame is favorable- eternity. Again, intuition says that the following statement from my Guru is correct- it is never what one thought it was --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron, unfortuanately you're wasting your breath on these mala covered

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-23 Thread Ron
. Of course, the Me can't gain realization but that's another topic, closely related. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: I suppose the paradox is there- maybe in thinking of the snake and string it clears it up- The significant thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened. I can only provide some intellectual response. Such as, the vedas is not what is cognized, it was relative things cognizesd- vedic math is relative, so it jyotish, and scripture. when all relative is gone,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Comment: Personally, I get the feeling that the vast maj- ority of gurus who claim that their followers need them to get enlightened in reality need their followers far more than the followers need them. If the followers weren't there hanging off every word and paying the bills, these gurus would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Response: I will ask my Guru to comment, as I have been saying, I am not enlightened. snip Comment: If you or anyone else can explain to me how the Vedas can be cognized *before* enlightenment, I owe you a nickel

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Ones are not caged in and do not have cognitions

2007-09-24 Thread Ron
Oh well, maybe he did, and certainly from my POV lives the Reality of the Vedas. And no doubt ime he has the ability to cognize them-- I'm not disputing that. But he sure hasn't had the time to *document* his cognition.: Hridaya Puri: One doesn't live the reality of the vedas and at the same time

[FairfieldLife] Signposts-MMY not enlightened- Ramana Maharishi quote

2007-09-25 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: Ron, is the reason you mentioned 'cognizing the vedas' because of the rumor spread by TB's (probably purushoids) that Mahesh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron´s Guru

2007-09-25 Thread Ron
www.kundalinisupport.com if there is further interest, you may want to join the yahoo group, it is active, not for lurkers, participation is required --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nayakanayaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ron! As a rare visitor to this group (though very

[FairfieldLife] Not all shaktipat or dharshan is equall

2007-09-26 Thread Ron
Comment from post:--But Shakti comes from the teacher, igniting the student's Shakti. HR: Again, the central issue is that the fallacy is that a me gains enlightenment. As long as there is a me that is there, there is further to go. Cognitions belong to those having them, absolute IS all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not all shaktipat or dharshan is equall

2007-09-26 Thread Ron
is that a me becomes enlightened --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron---You don't understand, how many times do we have to go over this? In Muktananda's tradition, there's a transfer of Shakti from the BODY(s) of Muktananda to the BODY(s) of the disciple

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not all shaktipat or dharshan is equall

2007-09-26 Thread Ron
and his father was an enlightened being --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: The use of words may be frustrating in this case. Often My Guru will say this one Right, but Ramana Maharshi and others say I'. Saying this one all the time is ridiculous!.. HP: My guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not all shaktipat or dharshan is equall

2007-09-27 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron (or shoud we call you by your new name?), what's the name of the guru commissioned by Poonjaji? -Peter Well, I took sanyas- it is more karma sanya, the name Hridaya Puri means something like living in the city

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not all shaktipat or dharshan is equall

2007-09-27 Thread Ron
If my posts are pissing you off, you may consider hitting the delete button whenever you see a post from me All this mix of gurus is probably the reason for your profound confusion, IMO.

[FairfieldLife] Everything is perfect

2007-09-27 Thread Ron
i have had this come up a lot with people telling me this and i found my Guru's words and guidance comforting in the middle of the last incident. It was with one claiming enlightenment. Something came up like so and so was stealing and then my inclination was to point that this is not a good

[FairfieldLife] Ricks enlightened friends

2007-09-28 Thread Ron
OK Rick, Now asking in public so all can participate. I suspect that all of those that you know that you say are realized have proclaimed this on their own without their Guru declaring this, or they did not or currently do not have a guru, or they have their own inner Guru- either in some

[FairfieldLife] Either pregnant or not- same with enlightenment

2007-09-28 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you about premature claims to enlightenment. I think they are common. If the people I'm referring to were saying I have reached the pinnacle of human evolution or if they displayed egotism or even if they

[FairfieldLife] Will we become mindless in enlightenment?

2007-09-28 Thread Ron
Amy: Will we become mindless and not be able to write, speak, and thus work, take care of ourselves, etc. in the midst of this process? Sarojini: Oh no, dear, dear one. This will not be the case what-so- ever. The body/mind will continue on, for the most part, as it always has. The

[FairfieldLife] Ramana's Guru, comments about needing a Guru

2007-09-28 Thread Ron
**Note- G = Swami Ganaga Puri ( my Guru), the asteric is a disciple of Christine Breese, who has videos up on your tube: As for the real question about whether this is true, RAMANA contradicted his own teaching that the guru is necessary (and he would be tickled to see that this has come

[FairfieldLife] Re: DS responds to response to Rick Archer RE: Enlightenment

2007-09-28 Thread Ron
HERE IS WHAT RAMANA SAID: THE SELF, OR THE ATMAN, IS THE GURU. HE ALSO SAYS THAT THE SELF - OR GRACE - MAY GUIDE THE SEEKER TO FIND AN OUTER (LIVING) GURU. I'VE NOT HEARD ABOUT RAMANA HAVING AN EXTERNAL GURU. PLEASE HAVE YOUR GURU SEND YOU THE SOURCE OF HIS KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS GURU

[FairfieldLife] Re: DS responds to response to Rick Archer RE: Enlightenment

2007-09-29 Thread Ron
. Hridaya Puri FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: **Here is one excerpt from my gurus writtings: As Ramana melted within Arunachala obedient and surrendered and never did he leave his Guru's

[FairfieldLife] Aledged enlightened accuse me of spiritual arrogance

2007-09-29 Thread Ron
I think I have run into more than 20 people in the last 1.5 years claiming enlightenment, most are self declared in one form or another ( the other is some confusingh thing where I think they are claiming enlightenment but I have to guess at what it is they are claiming). Often it is their

[FairfieldLife] Re: DS responds to Bronte Baxter about possible mispost

2007-09-29 Thread Ron
. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oneradiantbeing oneradiantbeing@ wrote: DS: No, that was not written to Rick. I thought I was responding to Hridaya Puri or Ron (I believe they are the same person), whose name appeared at the bottom of the post (see below). Please

[FairfieldLife] For those not enlightened here

2007-09-29 Thread Ron
Ok, lemme explain something- I had experiences meeting many that claimed enlightenment but it wasn't the case. My experiences were not good. Too many and too much stuff to write in this post now. As a result of the meetings for example, I was depressed at times, bummed out, and confusion was

[FairfieldLife] Enlightenment description like you have not heard

2007-09-30 Thread Ron
Well it certainly sounds hilarious! 0- it IS - it is the great cosmic joke - as there is no one there to be Enlightened. What remains is Reality. There is Bliss but not a someone to be blissful. The past is over as if it never was. The Divine Essence which is Life is what is paramount and

[FairfieldLife] Lurker notice in out Yahoo group

2007-09-30 Thread Ron
Om Namo Narayan 0 - why is it that ego has the egotisitcal mindset that through lurking one has no obligations to support what is given here, and that if one just remains under the radar that they will hear Just the Right thing and then they can do it ALL on their own. If ego could do it

[FairfieldLife] Come on already! /Re: Lurker notice in out Yahoo group

2007-09-30 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: Gimminee critters, Ron. Here you go again. You are a nice, sincere guy, but this proselytizing is a drag. Isn't it an edifice of the ego

[FairfieldLife] Comments from an enlightened one

2007-09-30 Thread Ron
Note From Hridaya- I pick out interesting comments from the enlightened in my Path- 0= Swami G, S= Swami Fisshananda, and then Sarojini. These short comments coming from the three have similar or the same air to them because it is that One essence from which they speak. Maybe some enjoy

[FairfieldLife] oops- S= Swami Siddhananda

2007-09-30 Thread Ron
Title says it all

[FairfieldLife] Here's a parable

2007-09-30 Thread Ron
Namaste Beautiful ones, Here's a parable: There was a man who had heard of this great thing called air. He had never seen air before, experienced air before or even knew that air existed. So, he went to a local teacher of air to teach him all about it. What is air? Where is it? How can I

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on Phase Transition

2007-10-01 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Yes, the rudrabhisek is a yagya for peace Seems like we have been in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-10-01 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bronte Baxter Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:32 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is

[FairfieldLife] The mysterious one known as Peter

2007-10-01 Thread Ron
I haven't been hanging around FFL long enough ( 3- 4 year pause) to know if that one known as peter reveals where the consciousness is resting. In the short time span of my return, I have noticed questions directed that way towards Peter and they went unanswered. This post is the first one I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the REVISED parable

2007-10-01 Thread Ron
, the first man said -- I don't need a teacher. Fool you are, said the second man. I'm sure you'll drop dead any moment. -Bronte Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste Beautiful ones, Here's a parable: There was a man who had heard of this great thing called

[FairfieldLife] New initiate falls into enlightenment first day

2007-10-02 Thread Ron
Namaste Thankyou Jeff for your post - Jyoti took Diksha and was ripe this was the first time that someone actually transcended and imploded into Realization at Diksha. It was great. hahahahahaha Just gave the last of the mantras and her new name and said now nyingje no longer remains

[FairfieldLife] Re: New initiate falls into enlightenment first day

2007-10-02 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/2/07 12:17:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Namaste Thankyou Jeff for your post - Jyoti took Diksha and was ripe this was the first time that someone actually

[FairfieldLife] Can one regress from enlightenment?

2007-10-02 Thread Ron
Note: 0 = Swami G, The question here is answered by two of the enlightened : Another question: Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I was just#8232; wondering if Diksha can wear off? Or if it is possible to slip back#8232; into an ego after one reaches realization? #8232;#8232;0- As long as

[FairfieldLife] Repost- can one digress from enlightenment

2007-10-02 Thread Ron
Note: 0 = Swami G, The question here is answered by two of the enlightened : Another question: Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I was just wondering if Diksha can wear off? Or if it is possible to slip back into an ego after one reaches realization? 0- As long as mind does not re-root it is

[FairfieldLife] Why does the veil of illusion even exist?

2007-10-03 Thread Ron
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amy Hard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste GuruJ. OM Namo Narayan - In response to your post below: Why does the veil of illusion even exist? I realize it's a joke, but it seems like a cruel one. :( 0- one got lost in the story and the projections and this is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'One Defintion of Enlightenment', also ice cream

2007-10-03 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the soul expands and overshadows the body, Then you realize you are the energy of the soul, And you no longer experience yourself, as the body, But you experience yourself as an energy called 'The Soul'. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'One Defintion of Enlightenment', also ice cream

2007-10-03 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote This is for those who never tasted ice cream: It is sweet, really really creamy, cold, and melts when warmed up - ok, now do you fully get

[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-03 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At first, I was very annoyed about the announcement that they intended to build hundreds of these towers of invincibility around the world, at several mil a pop, which seemed only to designed to tell Bevan et al

[FairfieldLife] for Nabby

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest reading material and meetings for the enlightened to stay enlightened Ron. Now that's real enlightenment, right ? ;-) The update in my path here is My Guru said there are 5 that have unfolded in Realization. Maybe it is even 6

[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: There are wild things taking place with Gurus these days. The claim from your guru to have brought 5 into enlightenment probably is the wildest

[FairfieldLife] Re: for Nabby

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: I'm happy that you found reality with a guru that suggest reading material and meetings for the enlightened to stay enlightened Ron. Now

[FairfieldLife] Re: for Nabby

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my opinion, 5 or 8 people enlightened in 8 years isn't an extraordinary track record. I'm sure there are many gurus who could claim that, but I'm not sure that there are many who would. I think it is an area of

[FairfieldLife] Re: for Nabby

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for Nabby As far

[FairfieldLife] Re: I guess this will make Shiva happy...reminds me of a

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, andrasayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the source of Nityananda saying that none of his diciples were enlightened? My Guru knows someone that was there at the time of his passing. He had said not one came that was there for a bigger Me. My guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: for Nabby

2007-10-04 Thread Ron
HP : Well lemme think, what would be the purpose in knowing or believeing that my Guru has brought 5 to enlightenment since 1999. For those interested in a Guru who may be available to work with, it would be most useful I would guess. Nabby: Of course, if it was true. But since it is just a

[FairfieldLife] Re: for Nabby

2007-10-05 Thread Ron
It is not possible to have a useful discussion with Ron as long as you cannot even read and understand the simplest of statements. HP: Well Nabby, we know in advance that there is not going to be a discussion between us did not write what you claim, it's not useful for me with another

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Outlaw Path To Enlightenment

2007-10-06 Thread Ron
. They repeat the stuff they've been told (and, more often than not, *sold*) by teachers who told them that they *needed* a teacher to realize who they are. They go on and on like Ron does about how a guru is essential, and how doing exactly what he or she says is essential to become enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Outlaw Path To Enlightenment

2007-10-06 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) That moment often is referred to by the enlightened as the pivotal moment in their lives in which the seed of realization was planted. It may not have actually been *doing* the Something Else that

[FairfieldLife] Why enlightened prefer This one or One

2007-10-07 Thread Ron
Namaste Guru G and Amy, G :the *you* that you speak of is no more. When *you* is used by One that is Realized it is only used as a manner of speaking. The *you* is no more - it belongs to the illusion of maya. In Lila what dances is that One Singular Essense which is One. Udit: That's right.

[FairfieldLife] Walking the path alone

2007-10-07 Thread Ron
Actually, the guru is only a guide and it has been stated here that one must walk the path alone ultimately. This is no way means that while one is with the Guru, the evolution is not in full force until one is walking the path on their own but just the opposite. From that well known verse-

[FairfieldLife] Definitions sahaha, Sarrvikalpa, Nirvikalpa

2007-10-07 Thread Ron
Om Namo Narayan Sahaja means effortless and continuous - (not simply the result of being in sitting meditation) This is rather a continous state of Consciousness versus an experience that comes and goes. Sarvikalpa - is still having an identity but it is merged in Oneness. Being One

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definitions sahaha, Sarrvikalpa, Nirvikalpa

2007-10-07 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: Om Namo Narayan Sahaja means effortless and continuous - (not simply the result of being in sitting meditation) This is rather a continous state

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definitions sahaha, Sarrvikalpa, Nirvikalpa

2007-10-07 Thread Ron
in actuality by now, all the stances of all the members in this forum are known and it is not going to change any time soon most likely, so now what - do you want a medal? - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Different enlightened one answers the same question

2007-10-07 Thread Ron
Namaste all, Namaste and Grace-filled Evening, * While reading through the posts a question popped up. In the realized state how do you feel about your loved ones? S There is no sense that the loved one is different than the self and within this purity, love and compassion flow

[FairfieldLife] Sidhis and Kundalini

2007-10-13 Thread Ron
0 Namaste - Siddhis come as a matter of course - but development of Siddhis is not what the path is about - it is about entering the Best of the Siddhis which is Realization where all conditioned knowledge is at an end. Siddhis are signposts along the way. Maha Shanti OM (Reply)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Diksha Initiation vs. regular Initiation.

2007-10-13 Thread Ron
ater all these years of doing tm and if regular and sincere with it, I would submit there is a good chance that one would move rapidly by taking diksha under the terms specified below. my experience dictates that it is different to have the initiation by the diciple compared with the sat

[FairfieldLife] Shaktipat Diksha initiation

2007-10-14 Thread Ron
This looks good from what they write: http://www.siddhyog.org/shaktipat_diksha_-_initiation.htm

[FairfieldLife] quote from MMY for Nabby

2007-10-14 Thread Ron
The world is as you are. Develop unbounded consciousness and the Universe is yours

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