I agree with Sal and Sparaig re consenting adults and IMO, anyone who
thinks Monica didn't know exactly what she was doing is a tad naive. If someone
is forced, then it becomes more than a private matter but you seem to assume
that these women were so outgunned they couldn't exert any
The way that can be spoken is not
the Constant Way. Enlightenment isn't something you can describe, so
why try?It's fun!--I can describe it but you won't understand or like my
description.
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The way that can be spoken is not the Constant Way.
Enlightenment
isn't something you can describe, so why try?
It's fun!
--I can describe it but you won't understand or like my
description.
I try to stay out of discussions about what is enlightenment,
attempts to *define* it in
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way that can be spoken is not the Constant
Way.
Enlightenment
isn't something you can describe, so why try?
It's fun!
--I can describe it but you won't understand
or like my
description.
I try to stay out of discussions
on 6/20/05 12:00 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just how many women did MMY allegedly sleep with and over what
period
of time?
I know the names of 5 or 6, and there accounts of others, unnamed.
The time
frame seems to span mid-60's through early 70's.
PErhaps all the emphasis
on 6/20/05 1:00 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/18/05 10:56 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think its very tenuous and slippery to assume that Rick is being
honest with himself or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Last night I had a weird experience where I layed in bed and all
knowledge came to me and I was enlightened. It lasted about fifteen
minutes. I experienced perfect and complete shunyata. I understood
how the dualism of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Well that's the second time I have been accussed of being a prude on
this forum. Let me assure you without going into any specfics, I'm not
a
on 6/18/05 10:56 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think its very tenuous and slippery to assume that Rick is being
honest with himself or anyone else when he says things like he does.
The consensual sexual activities of an adult human with another adult
human are usually
I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this, but it sounds to me like you're almost suggesting putting someone in the stocks, figuratively speaking. For once I agree with Sparaig, what goes on between adults in a *consensual* matter should stay there.
I also wonder why nobody brought it up at
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/19/05 1:09 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this, but it sounds to me like you're almost suggesting putting someone in the stocks, figuratively speaking
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/19/05 1:09 PM, Sal Sunshine at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this,
but it sounds to me like
you're almost suggesting putting someone in the
stocks, figuratively speaking.
For once I agree with
on 6/19/05 3:11 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not so much the sexual behavior that is
bothersome, but the implicit deception involved in
presenting one's self as a celibate monk and then
pursuing sex with course participants/staff behind
closed doors.
Right. And the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference
between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. It's a catagory
difference. Once it is clearly known that unbounded is not a 'really
big space',
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, what is usually discussed on an e-mail list are
peoples' mental models of enlightenment and how wrong
you are if you don't express your
On Jun 19, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
But are all adults created equal? Bill and Monica?
Such an attitude really presupposes that women who are younger are automatically less capable of making rational decisions. In effect, it's very condescending. As I recall, it was Monica who
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/19/05 5:04 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 19, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
But are all adults created equal? Bill and Monica?
Such an attitude really presupposes that women who
That's a lot easier to understand, IMO, since nobody likes being deceived. I just wonder why this deception seems to get so much more ink than any of the others.
Sal
On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
It's not so much the sexual behavior that is
bothersome, but the implicit
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
Shouldnt the president of the US be more capable of making rational decisions than a starry-eyed young intern? Isnt that why we elected him?
We elected him to make rational decisions about sex?
Right. But if Bill wasnt president, or MMY head of an
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices
/ Ethics
on 6/19/05 3:11 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: It's not so much the sexual behavior that is
bothersome, but the implicit deception involved
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/19/05 5:28 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a lot easier to understand, IMO, since nobody likes being deceived. I just wonder why this deception seems to get so much more ink than any
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/19/05 5:43 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
Shouldnt the president of the US be more capable of making rational decisions than a starry-eyed young
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
I guess I have this notion that rationality and self control in ones personal life in other words, a healthy, balanced personality - somehow correlate with the ability to conduct oneself as a leader of a country or spiritual organization.
That is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's hard to imagine Maharishi giving lectures about things with
pussy on his face, or with cum still wanking off his cock after a
quick blow job to restore his spirits.
Why? You lecture us like that all the time. :)
That's a good question Sal. I think there's some
projection on our part of God/Father archetype. It's
hard to think that God could be deceptive and horny.
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a lot easier to understand, IMO, since nobody
likes being
deceived. I just wonder why
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
Sutphen
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Yes, what is usually discussed on an e-mail list
are
peoples' mental models of enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's
hard to think that God could be deceptive and horny.
Oh yea of little scriptural backgrond. :)
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and
True
But I'm no Maharishi. I'm just a bottom feeding
bodhisattva.
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From: akasha_108
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices /
Ethics
--- In FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/19/05 1:09 PM, Sal Sunshine at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on this,
but it sounds to me like
you're almost
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics
on 6/19/05 6:03 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 19, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
I guess I have this notion that rationality and self control in ones personal life in other words
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/19/05 1:09 PM, Sal Sunshine at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know, Rick, I could be all wet on
this,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, what is usually discussed on an e-mail list are
peoples'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right. But if Bill wasnt president, or MMY head of an organization
that
attracted many young people, or Mick Jagger lead singer of the Rolling
Stones, its unlikely any of them would have had all the women they
did.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Of course, but why did the World Press give
Maharishi such immunity?
Aside from a report from the Beatles era, what press
rumors of this
surfaced in the last 50
Exactly. And similar habits for Roosevelt.
Sal
On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
While Churchill smoked, drank, and used profanity.
on 6/19/05 7:44 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, but why did the World Press give Maharishi such immunity?
Aside from a report from the Beatles era,
The Rolling Stone interview with John Lennon, June, 1970.
what press rumors of this
surfaced in the last 50 years?
Linda
on 6/19/05 7:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right. But if Bill wasnt president, or MMY head of an organization
that
attracted many young people, or Mick Jagger lead singer of the Rolling
Stones, its
on 6/19/05 8:10 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Of course, but why did the World Press give
Maharishi such immunity?
Aside from a report from the Beatles era,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/19/05 7:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right. But if Bill wasnt president, or MMY head of an organization
that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/19/05 7:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right. But if Bill wasnt president, or MMY head of an organization
that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Maybe the whole thing will die a quiet death, all sorts of
fanciful myths will be concocted, and 2,000 years from now some guy
will
make a fortune writing a best seller claiming that M had progeny.
What would the
It is summer in Norway, and I have vacation. What am I going to do? I
am going to initiate a lot of people into Transcendental Meditation.
I wish you all a good summer.
Ingegerd
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.
Um, OK, but how do you know that the,
Sparaig.
Are you from Norway? This is one of the Histories one Purusha from
Norway is telling.
Ingegerd
Sounds like standard business practices, although not
necessarily
good ones. MMY used to tell people that they had a
responsibility to
inform him when his OWN behavior was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference
between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. It's a catagory
difference. Once it is clearly known that unbounded is not a 'really
big space', and that eternal is not
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self
reported. The difference
between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite.
It's a catagory
difference. Once it is clearly known that
unbounded is not a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it jeopardizes the
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner
experience and POV
with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I
can't tell you how many
people I've met who thought they were enlightened
after a certain
experience or shift in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/17/05 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neither was I. I was merely pointing out that their decision to get
away from the TMO may be the right one for THEM, but may not say
anything about anyone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner
experience and POV
with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I
can't tell you how many
people I've met who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sparaig.
Are you from Norway? This is one of the Histories one Purusha from
Norway is telling.
Ingegerd
I live in Arizona, USA and heard it in Arizona, USA.
Sounds like standard business practices, although not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Now, look at spraig's statement carefully:
In the context of the TMO, anyone who discusses enlightenment is off
the program...
In the midst of an organization supposedly formed to promote and
produce enlightmnent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've seen few signs of newly awakened on this group. In fact,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self
reported. The difference
between nearly infinite and infinite is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner
experience and POV
with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I
can't tell you how many
people I've met who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote:
Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The
difference
between nearly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/17/05 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neither was I. I was merely pointing out that their decision to
get
away
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Well that's the second time I have been accussed of being a prude on
this forum. Let me assure you without going into any specfics, I'm not
a prude and I generally don't care who fucks who. But I am concerned
about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
You can always organize a study of newly awakened former TMers
and
compare their physiology to the ongoing participants in the
program.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, it is not a response to Chopra.
How do you know?
The purpose of an organisation - is to organize on all levels.
Ingegerd
Um, OK, but how do you know that the, obvious to me at least, testing
of the rajas by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Have you ever seen the signs (eeg studies etc...) of any other
people
besides TMers. Did you even take a look at
Ken_Stops_His_Brainwaves.wmv that Vaj posted? Pretty impressive.
I'm afraid that was a cheat!
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here writing
on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are
still
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since purity of the teaching is and always has been
MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than-
creative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does seem rather ironic that a spiritual movement who's
primary goal is enlightenment does not encourage its members
to talk about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here
on 6/15/05 8:33 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 5:35 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CC is baby awakening. Cessation of identification of
consciousness with
mind. End of I and me.
on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow.
If
it
doesn't, the company goes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I was just saying that with decades of meditation under one's
belt, the liberating influence of breaking free from a situation
which encourages or imposes entrenched thinking may be sufficient
to tip one over the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've seen few signs of newly awakened on this group. In fact,
quite the opposite, unless one assumes that the habitual
responses
of the newly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000
[EMAIL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 9:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it jeopardizes the
on 6/17/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I was just saying that with decades of meditation under one's
belt, the
liberating influence of breaking free from a situation which
encourages or
imposes entrenched thinking may be sufficient to tip one over the
edge. Or
maybe
on 6/17/05 4:29 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like standard business practices, although not necessarily
good ones. MMY used to tell people that they had a responsibility to
inform him when his OWN behavior was offending Gurudev's dignity. I
take it that such discussions
Of course,you have no idea what experiences Bevan or anyone else in
charge of the TMO has had or not-had because, being good Maharishi-
ites, they don't discuss them in public without MMY's authorization.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my
.
Um, OK, but how do you know that the, obvious to me at least,
testing
of the rajas by giving them silly titles and making them wear silly
outfits is NOT a response to the self-importance of Deepak Chopra?
Oh, My God! Spare me!
Ingegerd
It's a response to Chopra, I think. Chopra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/17/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I was just saying that with decades of meditation under one's
belt, the
liberating influence of breaking free from a situation which
encourages or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/17/05 4:29 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like standard business practices, although not necessarily
good ones. MMY used to tell people that they had a responsibility to
inform him when his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.
Um, OK, but how do you know that the, obvious to me at least,
testing
of the rajas by giving them silly titles and making them wear silly
outfits is NOT a response to the self-importance of Deepak Chopra?
Oh,
on 6/17/05 7:50 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neither was I. I was merely pointing out that their decision to get
away from the TMO may be the right one for THEM, but may not say
anything about anyone who choses to stay around.
I totally agree with you for once. Staying in the TMO
Have you ever seen the signs (eeg studies etc...) of any other people
besides TMers. Did you even take a look at
Ken_Stops_His_Brainwaves.wmv that Vaj posted? Pretty impressive.
I'm afraid that was a cheat!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You are right on the beam. Teaching in the field there never was any
tangible regional support. Occasional spurts of national publicity,
but no other support, just mandates. And it was run like commision
sales. When
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
His crack smoking and 'ho running.
Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO?
Ture, I'm sure, but I think it is MMY's practice of
hotting VW Golfs, and driving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There is a substantial group of the 'newly awakened' here writing
on FFL, willing to stick their necks out. How many of them are
still closely associated with the TMO?
And there is a good reason for this. If they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow.
If
it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since purity of the teaching is and always has been
MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than-
creative individuals because they're the ones most likely to follow
the purity of the teaching
In my early days in the TMO from '72 to '78 there always was some structured activity for people to share and talk about their experiences. This was not discouraged in the least.But starting with the big Amherst course in '79 this pretty much stopped. It does seem rather ironic that a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does seem rather ironic that a spiritual movement who's
primary goal is enlightenment does not encourage its members
to talk about their experiences regarding this goal. I've always
seen this as a political
another 'air sign', with coffee...ok, here goes:
I had a slightly different experience with the movement, in that I
was always very open about my experiences- with Guru Dev and other
stuff, like the time a Gita study class was going on, everyone in a
circle and I saw tendrils of energy or
: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices /
Ethics
another 'air sign', with coffee...ok, here goes:I had
a slightly different experience with the movement, in that I was always very
open about my experiences- with Guru Dev and other stuff, like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/13/05 3:31 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is my opinion that there was never any possibility of
course correction happening as a result of external
feedback to Maharishi. Same thing in the
on 6/15/05 12:36 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many times does personal behavior become subject to debate in a
boardroom of a company unless its making national headlines? Please
refer me to the headlines that would warrant this for the TMO.
If it jeopardizes the company, you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/13/05 3:31 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is my opinion that there was never any possibility of
course correction
on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somehow I missed this course correction idea earlier. It's a good
map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development after
leaving the TMO. (Yes, Peter I know... realization...)
Of course, they didn't need to leave the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 12:36 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many times does personal behavior become subject to debate in a
boardroom of a company unless its making national headlines? Please
refer me to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/15/05 11:59 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somehow I missed this course correction idea earlier. It's a good
map to think about the folks who made big leaps in development
after
leaving the TMO.
on 6/15/05 2:23 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it jeopardizes the company, you bet it gets dealt with somehow. If
it
doesn't, the company goes down.
Which personal behavior of MMY's has jeapordized the TMO?
If I enumerated them you'd dismiss them as unfounded rumors and we'd
For the last 20 years, TM-Teachers in Norway have had a lot of good
ideas to develop the TMO in a good direction, to develop a healthy
administration and organisation. The vision has been to increase the
number of initiations and groups of sidhas, work together in a
democratic way in different
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