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I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many
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I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in
many cases...
I completely understand...
Explain it to unc...
Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal
experiences in many cases.
Maybe, but I'm suspicious for my own reasons, not because
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I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences
in
many cases...
I completely understand...
Explain it to unc...
Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal
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Nothing to explain. You trust others, be they teachers
or scriptures or science or whatever, more than you trust
yourself. That's your call.
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I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences
in
many cases...
I completely understand...
Explain it to unc...
Uncle, Lawson is completely suspicious about his own personal
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Think it's time to bail on the conversation! I'm
going
to go out and buy two new resonance heads for my
12
tom and my 16 tom. Think I'll get clear
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I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences
in
many cases...
I completely understand...
Explain it to
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Not for me really. But then its hard for you to concieve of a
spiritual trip with a mentor that is unlike the ones you know,
where there are no clear-cut guidelines and instructions. A
totally non-verbal
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Nothing to explain. You trust others, be they teachers
or
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Nothing to
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[...]
The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has
its own agenda which is primarily bending experience
to fit a priori concepts. In short, the mind wants to
be right.
Sure. The nice thing about TM is that I'm always right...
To
It is a nice story, Unc. And I agree, it is teachers everywhere. One
day, I was waiting for the subway, lonely on a station in Oslo, Then
a drug-abuser showed up. I recognized him from the time that I was
administrating a Social Service Center in Oslo. Usually he was very
treathening,
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[...]
The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind
has
its own agenda which is primarily bending
experience
to fit a priori concepts. In short, the mind wants
to
be right.
Sure. The
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This is one of the fundamental issues of FFL,
reduced to
its bare bones. Many here are looking for a 'guru,'
an
expert to tell them what everything means and what
to
do next. Others are content with looking around and
trying things on for
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[...]
The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind
has
its own agenda which is primarily bending
I walked on to the market. I probably saw three
or four scenes that taught me something while
there.
Spiritual teachers? Got 'em all around me, thanks.
Unc
Hey, I learn things from people every day. Plenty of homeless in
Austin. And you often see bumper stickers Keeep Austin Weird.
I
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It is a nice story, Unc. And I agree, it is
teachers everywhere.
Everywhere.
Earlier I talked about the spiritual teachers one
finds on the street here in Paris.
My teachers today are not even human. They are a
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Sure. The nice thing about TM is that I'm always
right...
Yes, certainty and truth are dangerous bedfellows.
Did you understand what
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I walked on to the market. I probably saw three
or four scenes that taught me something while
there.
Spiritual teachers? Got 'em all around me, thanks.
Hey, I learn things from people every day. Plenty of
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Sure. The nice thing about TM is that I'm always
right...
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[...]
The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has
its own agenda which is
in and told me to get the fuck
off the computer for a minute and to take her to Macys.
- Original Message -
From: Jeff
Fischer
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated
Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman
The page in front of me is as empty as Laurel's canvas is when she
starts a painting, as empty as Keith Jarrett's music stand is when he sits
down to play. It's a little scary, trying to create like this, with no
plan and no clue as to what you will create and whether it will work or
not.
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I was going to say, yeah, what did you learn from the homeless
fixing the mutt. That they are human. That we should spend out money
on stray dogs. That we sould fix them and then let them go get killed
or picked up by the
Unc:
The page in front of me is as empty as Laurel's canvas
is when she starts a painting, as empty as Keith Jarrett's
music stand is when he sits down to play. It's a little
scary, trying to create like this, with no plan and no
clue as to what you will create and whether it will work
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And slowly the painting emerges. When it does, it
often has 20 or 30 other paintings underneath it.
The other paintings are not visible, except as
underlying texture, but they are essential to the
finished
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And slowly the painting emerges. When it does, it
often has 20 or 30 other paintings underneath it.
The other paintings are not
Teachers everywhere, dude. I sincerely hope you
tookher advice and went to Macy's. :-)UncYep, that was why there were so many
typoes.
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Only if one believes that maya is notthe
absolute.-Good one. I'm going to
consider that for a long time to come. Thank you.
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The mind always projects its own stuff. The mind has
its own agenda which is primarily bending experience
to fit a priori concepts.
Which for the most part is quite useful and enabling. With no a priori
concepts as
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The page in front of me is as empty as Laurel's canvas
is when she starts a painting, as empty as Keith Jarrett's
music stand is when he sits down to play. It's a little
scary, trying to create like this, with no
I learn many things that I wasnot conscious
of before. -and
forget one second later. Thus perfecting the tabula
rasa.
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YAHOO!
Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I
have never seen her.But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by
her picturefor 3 hours or more, and was spontaneously surrendering and
makinggreat laudations to her, hitting deep emotional
chords.-Sounds like a similar thing
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snip
Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen
her.
But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by her picture
for 3 hours or more, and was spontaneously surrendering and making
great
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Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen
her.
But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by
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It's a little
scary, trying to create like this, with no plan and no
clue as to what you will create and whether it will work
or not. But when it *does* work, the payoff is enormous.
Unc
cool. It sounds
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Can you talk about your time with Mother Meera? I have never seen
her.
But when i bought one of her books, I was mesmerized by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
It is far more attractive to me to cultivate a state of steady
prajna or a permanent state of non-anger, etc, than some abstraction
called enlightenment.
You guys who have had some success in life don't know the simple
Jeff:
Nor do I think one guy can handle this planet alone. It takes
a group. And ultimately we all make it together or not at all.
A philosophy that tends to be espoused by groups.
Unc
True. But disorganized groups have been run over by organized
groups of dubious notoriety:
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on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi, IMO, has a
quality of
severe and intense focus. Personal anger, what I beleive the
gita is
referring
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Either that or it could mean that your assumption
about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-)
Just joking around because I *don't* assume that
he is Self-realized. But I do agree with you that
no behavior
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Either that or it could mean that your
assumption
about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect.
:-)
Just joking around because I *don't* assume that
he is
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Yes, that's all good and fine, but are you
understanding this to
mean that a realized person
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Have you seen SS Ravi Shankar angry? Karunamayi? Mother Meera? Its
near impossible for me to concieve of anger within them.
For the last master you mentioned I am probably one of the very few
people who could answer
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The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi,
IMO, has a
quality of
severe and intense focus.
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Have you seen SS Ravi Shankar angry? Karunamayi?
Mother Meera? Its
near impossible for me to concieve of anger within
them.
For the last master you mentioned I am
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on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at
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The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi,
IMO, has a quality of
severe and intense focus. Personal anger, what I
beleive the gita is
referring to, is a very scattered,
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Cardmeister,
do you know what the sanskrit word is that is
being
translated as anger in English?
I think it's krodha.
1 krodha m. anger , wrath , passion VS. xxx , 14 AV.
S3Br. c. ;
(ifc. f. %{A}) Amar. ; Anger (personified as a
on 6/25/05 12:35 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Yes, that's all good and fine, but are you understanding this to
mean that a realized person can not exhibit angry behavior? Why would
that occur? Forget
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know why some people get a hit from some
teachers and why others have no such experience
with those teachers Maybe the subjective exper-
iences of the individual seeker say more about the
potential resonance
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Cardmeister,
do you know what the sanskrit word is that is being
translated as anger in English?
I think it's krodha.
1
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The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi,
IMO, has a quality of
severe and intense focus.
SSRS said that he could get angry, but that it has a
high cost. It's hard to imagine him getting angry, but
I have seen him confront someone's organizational
shortcomings in a very intense, focused manner that
was pure power with no bliss at all. Just like MMY.
He said it has a high
I think that is a very important statement, and why people are drawing
into different spiritual paths. That is why we should respect
whatever path people choose.
Ingegerd
Mr Reddy, Mother Meera's uncle said the same thing. He
said that some people may not feel anything, not because they are
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Again, I believe you are miscasting this focussed intensity as anger
-- the explosive, chaotic flaming thing. These are two very different
behaviors or states.
As such it becomes a matter of definition. What do you
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:08 AM, t3rinity wrote:
Why only connected to it? Why not BE it?
When referring to separateness it is helpful to point out that you can
BE connected. Not everyone experiences that. The realization is that
all arises interdependently, the network and the node, so yes
Either that or it could mean that your assumption
about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-)
Just joking around because I *don't* assume that
he is Self-realized. But I do agree with you that
no behavior is inconsistent with enlightenment.
Well, within
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Yes,
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I've just stated that I don't assume that Maharishi
is Self-realized/enlightened, and you want
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I've just stated that
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I assume MMY is enlightened in the same way I assume I
exist
..this belongs in Pseud's Corner of Private Eye magazine
viz:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you seen SS Ravi Shankar angry? Karunamayi? Mother Meera? Its
near impossible for me to concieve of anger within them.
For the last master you mentioned I am probably one of the very few
people who could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Read the full gita text, quote after quote. Upon
reading that, and in
your personal experience of silence and wholness,
tell us what role
does anger play for spritually absorbed, spiritually
mature people?
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I assume MMY is enlightened in the same way I assume I
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In the last part of the 70ths I was in Seelisberg to celebrate the 12th
of January, I think. MMY had some idea that it was CIA-people in the
Hall. He was angry, but not in the way that he was screaming. The Hall
was
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The behavior you
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The behavior you
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Read the full gita text, quote after quote. Upon
reading that, and in
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On Jun 24, 2005, at 11:48 PM, anonymousff wrote:
In all seriousness, what does anger or the lack
thereof have to do with enlightenment? Are you
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SSRS said that he could get angry, but that it has a
high cost. It's hard to imagine him getting angry, but
I have seen him confront someone's organizational
shortcomings in a very intense, focused manner that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why should I consider the Gita authoritative?
Because you do?
Hell no, boy, you should consider the Gita authoritative because the
Bible says so.
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Again, I believe you are miscasting this focussed intensity as anger
-- the explosive, chaotic flaming thing. These are two very different
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Why should I consider the Gita authoritative?
Because you do?
Hell no, boy, you should consider the Gita
authoritative because the
Bible says so.
Well, we all know
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As Enlightened, He should be beyond fear. Better for the SCI-Guys, if
they were present, to listen to the knowledge than being hit by MMYs
frustration and the whole audience was hit by the frustration as
well. It was really paranoid, as you said.
Ingegerd
Not to comment on MMY's paranoia or
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It is great posts like this that make FFL worth
reading. Thanks Anon, nice job.
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??? Anger, like all other experience, is a
relative thing. While
someone in Unity may well be
one with the anger, you can make a case that the
analysis of
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[...]
So Sparig, while you are correct that Atman is not disturbed by anger
(fear or craving), also the mind (manas) of the self-realized is not
agitated and distured, overcome, lost, become unglued or unfocused by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As Enlightened, He should be beyond fear. Better for the SCI-Guys, if
they were present, to listen to the knowledge than being hit by MMYs
frustration and the whole audience was hit by the frustration as
well. It was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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Well, we all know that God wrote the bible, but who in
the hell wrote that thar Gita thang? Could be the
devil, don't know. Wanna be prudent.
Of COURSE it was the devil, or one of them false gods, since my God is
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Either that or it could mean that your assumption
about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-)
Just joking around
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So Sparig, while you are correct that Atman is not disturbed by anger
(fear or craving), also the mind (manas) of the self-realized is not
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Either that or it could mean that your assumption
about
Is there anything you
consider authoritative?
One's own personal experience...for the person
experiencing it.
I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many
cases...
To each his own.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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Cardmeister,
do you know what the sanskrit word is that is
being
translated as anger in English?
I think it's krodha.
1 krodha m. anger ,
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Cardmeister,
do you know what the sanskrit word is that is
being
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Think it's time to bail on the conversation! I'm
going
to go out and buy two new resonance heads for my
12
tom and my 16 tom. Think I'll get clear
Ambassador's.
I've got pinstripes on the top. Nice full, sound
with
lots of bottom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:08 AM, t3rinity wrote:
Why only connected to it? Why not BE it?
When referring to separateness it is helpful to point out that you can
BE connected.
We have to refere to separateness, when we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usually joy and love are held to be more life-supporting...
Usually there are three gunas.
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snip Maharishi's translation:
Pondering on objects of the senses,
a man develops attachment for them;
from attachment springs up desire,
and desire gives rise to anger.
From anger arises delusion; from delusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, within MMY's framework, any behavior that is detrimental
to
further spiritual growth is inconsistent with enlightenment...
Wait, I had to read this a few times. Is this like saying that any
behaviour that is
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I personally am suspicious of my own personal experiences in many
cases...
I completely understand...
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Doesn't the Gita also say that there are no marks by which you
could recognize an enlightened?
Ooops, I was probably thinking of II.54, but
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