[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
Irmeli: I also feel it to be quite appropriate to create your own combination of old traditions, by taking from different traditions, what you feel to valuable in them. Moose: Thats fine. Just be careful in not assuming the same terms mean the same things across traditions. Lots of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, actually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's meeting with George Harrison - as told by...

2006-02-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During particularly important hockey games in Canada, the water pressure in major cities goes down between periods because everyone is rushing to the bathrooms in their homes. According to COB, icehockey is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's meeting with George Harrison - as told by...

2006-02-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: During particularly important hockey games in Canada, the water pressure in major cities goes down between periods because everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
In trying to think about why Chopra, who has been dissing MMY for years -- while getting rich on his spinoffs from TM -- would have a change of heart and try to make up (with lies, of course, we are talking about Deepack) for his past bad behavior, I'm thinking that Deepack, in some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/16/06 8:45 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Possible, but I think even somebody as cynical and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: I think from that perspective, you would feel that everything that happened could not have happened otherwise, that all your 'mistakes' in thinking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In trying to think about why Chopra, who has been dissing MMY for years -- while getting rich on his spinoffs from TM -- would have a change of heart and try to make up (with lies, of course, we are talking about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, actually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: In trying to think about why Chopra, who has been dissing MMY for years -- while getting rich on his spinoffs from TM -- would have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- bbrigante wrote: I never liked Chopra, but if he had been able to control his arrogance and market TM, he would have been OK In the early '90s, when I was active at the St. Louis TM Center, about the only thing that brought people in to learn was a two-paragraph plug for TM in one of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Papaji Quote

2006-02-17 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/16/06 6:53 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: God is subject. When we make honest mistake, when we love God we think he is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: In trying to think about why Chopra, who has been dissing MMY for years -- while getting rich on his spinoffs from TM -- would have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
TorquoiseB writes:snipped *On the other hand*, from another point of view, there may be some value in hearing the vibe behind the words that a person uses to describe an exper- ience that they know is indescribable. The words themselves mean nothing, but perhaps the vibe behind the words can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: I never liked Chopra, but if he had been able to control his arrogance and market TM, he would have been OK In the early '90s, when I was active at the St. Louis TM Center, about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have met Chopra a few times by participating in his seminars. Last time I think it was in Stockholm in 2002. I like him a lot. I think he is a person of great integrity and insight. So you believe what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread feste37
Bob B has a point. I remember reading one of Chopra's books and being shocked at how he used not only MMYs ideas but also MMY's exact phrases. There was not an original thought in the book, and yet nowhere was there any acknowledgement of MMY. I remember seeing somewhere later that he said he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's meeting with George Harrison - as told by...

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: During particularly important hockey games in Canada, the water

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not my mission here to defend Maharishi. I had similar thoughts when I came across the Papaji teachings. I thought: 'Why wasn't I told this right away?' But behind this question is another one: Why did I waste

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Thanks for giving me something to think about... Thats nice Well, actually, it's gotten me thinking about which, if any, of the teachings and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I lost my interest in the TMO, when Chopra left and I saw how the movement treated him. I think the vehemence is actually envy. Two excellent points. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob B has a point. I remember reading one of Chopra's books and being shocked at how he used not only MMYs ideas but also MMY's exact phrases. There was not an original thought in the book, and yet nowhere was there any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip I have met Chopra a few times by participating in his seminars. Last time I think it was in Stockholm in 2002. I like him a lot. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip I have met Chopra a few times by participating in his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have had to fit into the descriptions of them he has heard over the years. He's so used to the map that he wants people's experiences to have creases in them

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread Marek Reavis
An excellent (most recent) post and a very productive dialogue. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
I am told by one close friend, a physician trained in the movement, Chopra's one book on ayurveda was written by two other popular movement docs--presumably with their permission, to 'get the knowledge out'. It was just polished, edited and published.On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:21 AM, feste37

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: I have a really good rapport with him. In the late 80's my participation in the TMO was mainly because of him. I lost my interest

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
Consider the source. Maybe the people saying that have a few unresolved issues? Just a thought. Sal On Feb 17, 2006, at 4:39 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: So I don't really understand the *vehemence* above. I mean, you've got people saying that they hope that he'll go to hell for essentially

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 8:31 AM, wayback71 wrote: I believe Dr.Vasant Ladd  refused an offer, years ago.  He has his own institute out west.  He refused after the movement insisted he sign a paper saying he would now take Maharishi as his guru. He refused as he had his own root guru who was dear to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the source. Maybe the people saying that have a few unresolved issues? Just a thought. I was trying to take the high road for once and avoid saying that explicitly. :-) On Feb 17, 2006, at 4:39 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In trying to think about why Chopra, who has been dissing MMY for years -- while getting rich on his spinoffs from TM -- would have a change of heart and try to make up (with lies, of course, we are talking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/16/06 8:45 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: I never liked Chopra, but if he had been able to control his arrogance and market TM, he would have been OK In the early '90s, when I was active at the St. Louis TM Center, about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-17 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Peter wrote: when we love God we think he is an object. He is the subject. ... About 20 years ago, after doing a rigorous physical purification, I started having the loud and persistent thought, I love you. I've been perplexed ever since as to who's loving whom. Is it my small self

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob B has a point. I remember reading one of Chopra's books and being shocked at how he used not only MMYs ideas but also MMY's exact phrases. There was not an original thought in the book, and yet nowhere was there

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that, after all, AnonAkashaGabbyMoose's issue? He wants the experiences of enlighten- ment that people have had to fit into the descriptions of them he has heard over the years. He's so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with great integrity IMO. Who allowed his name to be put on a book that was written by others? Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquoiseB writes:snipped *On the other hand*, from another point of view, there may be some value in hearing the vibe behind the words that a person uses to describe an exper- ience that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with great integrity IMO. Who allowed his name to be put on a book that was written

[FairfieldLife] Chopra Bashing, was: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/17/06 4:39 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I don't really understand the *vehemence* above. I mean, you've got people saying that they hope that he'll go to hell for essentially deciding to be his own man and put his energy into his own projects instead of continuing to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/17/06 8:10 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have met Chopra a few times by participating in his seminars. Last time I think it was in Stockholm in 2002. I like him a lot. I think he is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:40 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with   great integrity IMO. Who allowed

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: I think from that perspective, you would feel that everything that happened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Papji Quote

2006-02-17 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Patrick Gilliam writes: About 20 years ago, after doing a rigorous physical purification, I started having the loud and persistent thought, I love you. I've been perplexed ever since as to who's loving whom. Is it my small self loving the large Self? The large Self loving the small self? Is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:44 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with   great integrity IMO. Who allowed his name to be put on a book that was written by others?This is common in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote: I never think of such inter- actions with teachers in terms of darshan or transmission; it's not as if they were really *doing* anything. All that was necessary was to be in their presence and then recognition took over. In them I could *recognize* attributes of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth - Chopra

2006-02-17 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Bob B has a point. I remember reading one of Chopra's books and being shocked at how he used not only MMYs ideas but also MMY's exact phrases. There

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 17, 2006, at 8:31 AM, wayback71 wrote: I believe Dr.Vasant Ladd refused an offer, years ago. He has his own institute out west. He refused after the movement insisted he sign a paper saying he would now

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB wrote: I never think of such inter- actions with teachers in terms of darshan or transmission; it's not as if they were really *doing* anything. All that was necessary was to be in their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with great

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB wrote: I never think of such inter- actions with teachers in terms of darshan or transmission; it's not as if they were really *doing* anything. All that was necessary was to be in their

[FairfieldLife] Brotherhood of the Esoteric Teaching

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Brotherhood of the Esoteric Teaching http://esotericteaching.org/blog/ Your Perfect Body is the name of the blog site. Author: David Bruce Hughes Brotherhood of the Esoteric Teaching http://esotericteaching.org/blog/2006/02/17/brotherhood-of-the-esoteric-teaching/ February 17th,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - Sidhis Health

2006-02-17 Thread tazarmfune
According to a government website, the death rate in 2002 for the U.S. was 847.3 per 100,000. If there are 2500 sidhas in Fairfield, then you'd expect an average of about 21 deaths per year. Since the community is so small, and most sidhas probably know each other to some degree, an average

[FairfieldLife] Deepak in Hell? Was: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: No, actually no TM TB, official or not, would use Chopra as a vehicle for their message, as I said. The TB line considers Chopra an apostate and a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:10 PM, wayback71 wrote:Yes, I am not surprised that Dr.Ladd had too much integrity to sign such a paper. He  would not have tolerated the TMO stuff for long, anyway.  About 17 years ago I went to  see him for an ayurvedic consultation when he was traveling through

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
Actually, I thought that *was* the high road. Maybe it just shows how low I've sunk. :) Sal On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Consider the source.  Maybe the people saying that have a few >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
Does he share any of the loot with GD's family? Sal On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:39 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: I think this is precisely the point. No matter what we may feel about MMY, one thing that he does with consistency is give credit to his own teacher and the tradition from which he got

[FairfieldLife] Anon Accounts

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Anon Accounts Shared accounts available for FFL use are as follows: Login name = anon_astute_ff / Password = 123456 Login name = anony_sleuth_ff / Password = 123456 Login name = anon_couscous_ff / Password = 123456 Login name = anonybliss_ff / pw = 123456 Login name =

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
Egypt actually. Sal On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:32 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: > Oddly enough, Chopra looks very much like a former friend > of mine, whose mother apparently was an almost full-blooded > gypsy... > Not too odd. Gypsies, apparently, originated from India...

[FairfieldLife] Shiva Sutras

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Shiva Sutras Shiva Sutras Translated by Sage Vasugupta First Awakening 1. Universal Consciousness is one's own nature. (Swami Lakshmanjoo: Supreme consciousness is the reality of everything.) 2. Knowing the individual consciousness as one's own nature and not knowing the Universal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with great integrity IMO. Who allowed his name to be put on a book that was written

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shiva Sutras

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
Whoever edited this added some very inaccurate comments--presumably a TMer, based on the TM buzzwords used.On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Shiva Sutras Translated by Sage Vasugupta     First Awakening   1. Universal Consciousness is one's own nature.   (Swami Lakshmanjoo: Supreme

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Egypt actually. Sal Nope. India. http://www.geocities.com/~patrin/history.htm On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:32 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Oddly enough, Chopra looks very much like a former friend of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:17 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:Precisely. If both parties agree, no harm no foul. It reminds me of a story I heard Paul Anka, the singer and  songwriter, tell on the Howard Stern Show several months ago. Anka is known as the writer of the "Tonight Show with Johnny Cason" 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shiva Sutras

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Shiva Sutras on 2/17/06 1:12 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever edited this added some very inaccurate comments--presumably a TMer, based on the TM buzzwords used. I think it was Michael Goodman. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
For a group where many claim there is no doer, its funny to see so much emphasis on who wrote what. Perhaps it was the need of the readers and the karma of the writers -- or vice versa. And then it happened. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 17,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were thrown out of MMY's ashram because they were doing drugs? The drug rationale has been around in the mov't for decades - it's a way for TBs to cope with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were thrown out of MMY's ashram because they were doing drugs? The drug rationale

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were thrown out of MMY's ashram because they were doing drugs? The drug rationale

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth on 2/17/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember Lennon McCartney? Do you really think John Lennon had anything to do with Yesterday or Martha My Dear or Paul with Instant Karma? The list is long. Instant Karma was written

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/17/06 1:53 PM, anon_couscous_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were thrown out of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Rick Archer
on 2/17/06 1:51 PM, anon_couscous_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were thrown out of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- TurquoiseB wrote:  I never think of such inter-actions with teachers in terms of darshan or transmission; it's not as if they were really*doing* anything. All that was necessary was tobe in their presence and then "recognition" tookover. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: I never liked Chopra, but if he had been able to control his arrogance and market TM, he would have been OK In the early '90s, when I was active at the St. Louis TM Center, about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Sal Sunshine
Egypt, Shemp. What do you think the term Gypsy (derived from 'Gyptians) comes from? x-tad-biggerA /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerGypsy/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger (derived from /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerCopt/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger) may be: /x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger

[FairfieldLife] World Poverty Map

2006-02-17 Thread tazarmfune
With all the recent postings about poverty, here is a link to an interesting map: http://www.cis.hut.fi/research/som-research/worldmap.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob B has a point. I remember reading one of Chopra's books and being shocked at how he used not only MMYs ideas but also MMY's exact phrases. There was not an original thought in the book, and yet nowhere was there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: I lost my interest in the TMO, when Chopra left and I saw how the movement treated him. I think the vehemence is actually envy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am told by one close friend, a physician trained in the movement, Chopra's one book on ayurveda was written by two other popular movement docs--presumably with their permission, to 'get the knowledge out'. It was just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:44 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with great integrity IMO. Who allowed

[FairfieldLife] Gypsy: (Re: Beatles angels on earth)

2006-02-17 Thread tazarmfune
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]: Gypsy \Gypsy\, n.; pl. {Gypsies}. [OE. Gypcyan, F. gyptien Egyptian, gypsy, L. Aegyptius. See {Egyptian}.] [Also spelled gipsy and gypsey.] 1. One of a vagabond race, whose tribes, coming originally from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: I have a really good rapport with him. In the late 80's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/17/06 1:51 PM, anon_couscous_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: Who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 17, 2006, at 8:31 AM, wayback71 wrote: I believe Dr.Vasant Ladd refused an offer, years ago. He has his own institute out west. He refused after the movement insisted he sign a paper saying he would now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth - Chopra

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Bob B has a point. I remember reading one of Chopra's books and being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Consider the source. Maybe the people saying that have a few unresolved issues? Just a thought. I was trying to take the high road for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: I never liked Chopra, but if he had been able to control his arrogance and market TM, he would have been OK

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: In trying to think about why Chopra, who has been dissing MMY for years -- while getting rich on his spinoffs from TM -- would have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I also have the highest respect for Chopra, he's a fine man with great

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread Vaj
On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Rick Archer wrote:“Instant Karma” was written after the Beatles broke upYes--a John Lennon song, but attributed to Lennon-McCartney. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Gypsy: (Re: Beatles angels on earth)

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
Well, since all current humans decended from a common gmother in central Africa, you are both off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]: Gypsy \Gypsy\, n.; pl. {Gypsies}. [OE.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - Sidhis Health

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to a government website, the death rate in 2002 for the U.S. was 847.3 per 100,000. If there are 2500 sidhas in Fairfield, then you'd expect an average of about 21 deaths per year. Since the community

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/17/06 10:40 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who tried to push the revisionist untruth that the Beatles were thrown out of MMY's ashram because they were doing drugs? The drug rationale

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: I never liked Chopra, but if he had been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles angels on earth

2006-02-17 Thread anon_couscous_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote:

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