[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: snip 2 - the Beatles dumped him The greatest Guru he could find treated him like the clerk he was. The richest and most famous people on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Malnak v

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Of course, they live happily ever after. I'd do a lot more for her then that if I thought it would help. But the bottom line is

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Here's the nutshell ruling. I bought the entire ruling last night. Andrew is very unhappy with me for continuing to disagree with him on this issue, BTW. He doesn't see a difference between TM and SCI/TM as put forth

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Here's the nutshell ruling. I bought the entire ruling last night. Andrew is very unhappy with me for continuing to disagree with him on this issue,

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Here's the nutshell ruling. I bought the entire ruling last night. Andrew is very

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip No, the court ruling had to do only with the use of public funds, of course (the establishment clause of the First Amendment). As long as

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip No, the court ruling had to do only with the use of public funds, of

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip No, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Of course the larger the number the better in studies worth any serious consideration. However, Fairfield itself offers an amazing case study. Because of the length of time factor of the study group. 1. There would have been a crime rate prior to TM's introduction into the community and

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the larger the number the better in studies worth any serious consideration. However, Fairfield itself offers an amazing case study. Because of the length of time factor of the study group.

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For whatever it is worth: http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/SocietalEffects/FairfieldCrime/index. cfm Heyit was certainly worth a laugh. astillchucklinwas To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: For whatever it is worth: http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/SocietalEffects/FairfieldCrime/index . cfm Heyit was certainly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Peter
--- Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the larger the number the better in studies worth any serious consideration. However, Fairfield itself offers an amazing case study. Because of the length of time factor of the study group. 1. There would have been a

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
They don't do this because the purpose of the the ME is political, not scientific. It is bandied about not in the spirit of understanding, but solely to promote TM. That's all MMY wanted to use it for, which is fine, but let's stop pretending we're interested in it for scientific reasons. Nicely

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the larger the number the better in studies worth any serious consideration. However, Fairfield itself offers an amazing case study.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Peter
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't do this because the purpose of the the ME is political, not scientific. It is bandied about not in the spirit of understanding, but solely to promote TM. That's all MMY wanted to use it for, which is fine, but let's stop

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the theory of the ME you are absolutely correct. If the TMO/MUM was serious about understanding the field effects of consciousness they would have to understand why the ME does not appear to work in Fairfield and expand the ME

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
And give up the ass kissing they paid so much cash for? I don't think so. The TMers will have to knock the crowns off with tomatoes. Now the image of Mother Divine ladies dancing, that is an image that will haunt me all day! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the theory of the ME you are absolutely correct. If the TMO/MUM was serious about understanding the field effects of consciousness they would have to

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the larger the number the better in studies worth any serious consideration. However, Fairfield itself offers an amazing case study. Because

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't do this because the purpose of the the ME is political, not scientific. It is bandied about not in the spirit of understanding, but solely to promote TM. That's all MMY wanted to use it for, which is

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their need to find flaws. So the purpose of the Raja thing is to turn people off? I don't get your point. As far as twisting reality to find flaws, come on man. The Raja

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: They don't do this because the purpose of the the ME is political, not scientific. It is bandied about not in the spirit of

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Lawson wrote:] and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their need to find flaws. [Curtis wrote:] So the purpose of the Raja

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig on 8/14/06 11:02 AM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their need to find flaws. So the purpose

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sigh. The ME is used to explain why MMY isn't trying to get massive numbers of people to learn TM, and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their need to find flaws. He isn't even accomplishing the ME numbers is he?

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. The ME is used to explain why MMY isn't trying to get massive numbers of people to learn TM, and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Is Barry now writing under Curtis's account? Man, that guy is crafty, what will he think of next. Sal On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:39 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. The ME is used to explain why MMY isn't trying to

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. The ME is used to explain why MMY isn't trying to get massive numbers of people to learn TM, and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hi G, I think you are on to something with his contempt for his own followers. Have you seen the comparison of the narcissistic personality disorder and Indian Gurus, mostly focused on Rajaneesh? It was in Free Inquiry in the late 80's. The author applied the DSM III standards to a few gurus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig on 8/14/06 12:21 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Curtis -- I doubt Mahesh cares what he is doing. He wanted massive numbers initiated because he got half the take. Which was the point of creating massive numbers

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Who pay a local bagpipe player $50 to play while John Konhaus walks from his stretch white limo into the Raj (with no one other than John and the driver to hear him). Thanks for that image Rick. It helped heal the damage caused by Pete's dancing Mother Divine ladies vision! karmically

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
I can't help but wonder,,,When does aggressive marketing and cavalier scientific study practises cross the line and become an active attempt to de-fraud and thus become a crimminal activitiy on an organised level'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help but wonder,,,When does aggressive marketing and cavalier scientific study practises cross the line and become an active attempt to de-fraud and thus become a crimminal activitiy on an

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, Sal

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
h, someone just emailed me personal and asked if I was barry,,,who's Barry,,,I'm Bill. noBarryhereBill --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Barry now writing under Curtis's account? Man, that guy is crafty, what will he think of next. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Barry now writing under Curtis's account? Man, that guy is crafty, what will he think of next. I can see why you might have misunderstood, Sal. After all, there's no reason you should ever have run into the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
no worries gerbal,,,I liked the post. Iffen my Hindu readings recall. The guru shall not ask for anything. The student shall offer everything. From the various articles I've read MMY is constantly asking for money,,,from governements, organisations and individuals. Hell the fact that there is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, Sal

2006-08-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, Sal on 8/14/06 1:19 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h, someone just emailed me personal and asked if I was barry,,,who's Barry,,,I'm Bill. Barry is someone who posted here frequently but recently decided

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help but wonder,,,When does aggressive marketing and cavalier scientific study practises cross the line and become an active attempt to de-fraud and thus become a crimminal activitiy on an

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no worries gerbal,,,I liked the post. Iffen my Hindu readings recall. The guru shall not ask for anything. The student shall offer everything. From the various articles I've read MMY is constantly

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, Sal

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/14/06 1:19 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h, someone just emailed me personal and asked if I was barry,,,who's Barry,,,I'm Bill. Barry is someone who posted here frequently but

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, Sal

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Thanks RickI don't imagine I'll be here long. Jist visitin fer a spell. Billybobwas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/14/06 1:19 PM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h, someone just emailed me personal and asked if I

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from what I can see. But then I can't for the life of me figure out what the Universal consciousness needs with earthly real estate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi G, I think you are on to something with his contempt for his own followers. Have you seen the comparison of the narcissistic personality disorder and Indian Gurus, mostly focused on Rajaneesh?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
Several lawsuits have been filed, Bill, one of the most well-known being for false advertising about flying technique, and claiming they could teach people to fly. Not sure what the outcome was, I think it was settled out-of-court. Another was a court case in NJ that asserted that TM was,

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from what I can see. But then I can't for the life of me figure out what the Universal consciousness needs with earthly real estate. Neither can I.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Aug 14, 2006, at 1:27 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Barry now writing under Curtis's account? Man, that guy is crafty, what will he think of next. I can see why you might have misunderstood, Sal. After all, there's

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi G, I think you are on to something with his contempt for his own followers. Have you seen the comparison of the narcissistic personality disorder and Indian Gurus, mostly focused on Rajaneesh? It was in

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from what I can see. But then I can't for the life of me figure out what

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
This looks really excellent, thanks for the tip. I am finding quite a bit of stuff on the web from the book. It is facinating stuff. I can't find my article on the Web but it was: The Narcissistic Guru: A Profile of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. Free Inquiry (Spring, 1988) I have a copy somewhere but

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no worries gerbal,,,I liked the post. Iffen my Hindu readings recall. The guru shall not ask for anything. The student shall offer everything. I think you have hit it exactly where it needs to be hit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I think really doesn't matter on the universal scale of things. Afterall who am I? Nor do the unassailable fininacial foundations found on a limited physical plane in an infinite universe. As

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: He is a brillant business man and real estate

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another wonderful Maheshism. Someone asked him about prayer. He quipped you don't apply to the World Bank for $2.00 I'm sure that's the complete context of his remark, isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: Perhaps MMY played hooky from class the day this philosophy was taught. Heavens, no. He wanted to know everything there was to know.

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another wonderful Maheshism. Someone asked him about prayer. He quipped you don't apply to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: Perhaps MMY played hooky from class the day this

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Hi G, I think you are on to something with his contempt for his own followers. Have you seen the comparison of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I understand too why it is so hard to break away. In the case of my X GF this man and this organisation has given her a sense of belonging to something. Its given her an identity. I'm a TM'r, I'M a

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you will take your friends advice and not only write down your experiences but share them with the world. Though it is true that I am an outsider the man MMY and the organisation has still managed

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: I may share my old stories. Some of them are actually fun. Your comments above are sad. You have seen very clearly what Mahesh does to

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip 2 - the Beatles dumped him The greatest Guru he could find treated him like the clerk he was. The richest and most famous people on the planet saw him for what he was. Paul McCartney on Maharishi Former Beatle

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their need to find flaws. So the purpose of the Raja thing is to turn people off? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/14/06 11:02 AM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist reality to fit their need to find

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. The ME is used to explain why MMY isn't trying to get massive numbers of people to learn TM, and the Raja thing certainly turns people off and MMY knows this. I find it amazing how people will twist

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Exactly. Working as intended. You have to be truely dedicated to be willing to pay $1 million for the privlege of wearing a stupid crown and being laughed at. I'm not so sure these guys are clued into the type of person who is laughing at them. I think they get major ass kiss perks from their

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/14/06 12:21 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Curtis -- I doubt Mahesh cares what he is doing. He wanted massive numbers initiated because he got half the take. Which was the point of creating

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no worries gerbal,,,I liked the post. Iffen my Hindu readings recall. The guru shall not ask for anything. The student shall offer everything. From the various articles I've read MMY is constantly

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: snip Perhaps MMY played hooky from class the day this philosophy was taught. Still looking for ammo to use against your ex? It's such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. Working as intended. You have to be truely dedicated to be willing to pay $1 million for the privlege of wearing a stupid crown and being laughed at. I'm not so sure these guys are clued into the

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@ wrote: snip Perhaps MMY played hooky from class the day this philosophy was

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Several lawsuits have been filed, Bill, one of the most well-known being for false advertising about flying technique, and claiming they could

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Guru communications. They get more direct access to MMY. When I was on the DC DAC at the end of my TM time because my wife at the time and I gave money to the movement we got to see MMY when he came to DC and got to see him in Holland on that course in a special meeting for the money givers. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/14/06 12:21 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Curtis -- I doubt Mahesh cares what he is doing. He wanted massive numbers

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Several lawsuits have been filed, Bill, one of the most well- known being for false advertising about flying technique, and claiming they could

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill (William)Simmons unclewas@

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Several lawsuits have been filed, Bill, one of the most well- known

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Orme-Johnson, none of the court cases has resulted in a judgment against TM. ut oh. Confusing what is true and what DoJ says is true. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: According to Orme-Johnson, none of the court cases has resulted in a judgment against TM. ut oh. Confusing what is true and what DoJ says is true. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: According to Orme-Johnson, none of the court cases has resulted in a judgment

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: ---

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