[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-12 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Jim Flanegin writes snipped: So again, I reject your notion that there is such a thing as a MMY/TMO style of enlightenment. It is enlightenment, pure and simple. Whether it is Maharishi, or SSRS, or Mother Meera, or Amma, or Guru Dev, it is just pure and simple enlightenment. Tom T: Yes Jim it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Geezer, You have provided me with some great laughs - I like your sense of humor. thanks Thanks Wayback. Nice to meetcha. Here's something that I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Jim, you should probably keep this particular seeing in mind next time you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip You must have forgotten my assertion that there is no such thing as MMY/TMO style of enlightenment. This just gets stranger and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't think that is a safe assumption, about any individual or any state of consciousness. Anyone can be wrong, and the more certain they seem to be about being right, the more likely it probably is that they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: MMY defines fully mature Unity as ability to perform all sidhis without

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Geezer, You have provided me with some great laughs - I like your sense of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
Jim, you should probably keep this particular seeing in mind next time you start to believe that your perceptions about things are correct... Yeah, you got me ;-) Evaluate my supposed state of consciousness. YOU should evaluate it. Many times here on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate on 9/5/06 10:58 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite a parallel, Jim. Every time I have described this, I have made it very clear that it was my perception that he levitated. I saw this hundreds of times

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly think you'd be better served in the future to think This is what I perceive and it may have nothing whatsoever to do with what is true rather than This is what I perceive, therefore it's true. Just as you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Same question to you that I asked whatever his name is. Can you please name one person on the planet who you can state unequivocally is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/5/06 10:58 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite a parallel, Jim. Every time I have described this, I have made it very clear that it was my perception that he levitated. I saw this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this then make you a TNB- True Non Believer? In other words, you castigate those who have been doing TM for years because they have unassailable beliefs, and here you stand, like their bookend, declaring just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think you'd be better served in the future to think This is what I perceive and it may have nothing whatsoever to do with what is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Humor has its place, but in that context, you were out of line. That's Mel Brooks sort of humr, where Jesus prays for a sign and someone pulls a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I honestly think you'd be better served in the future to think This is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Geezer,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yours in desperation, geezerfreak (who doesn't even have the guts to sign his own name...) OK Judy, time to come clean. The name's Bevan Morris. Perhaps you've heard of me? I'd really appreciate you're

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: You live to argue, pointlessly. And you live to deceive. Hi kids,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: snip Hi kids, Judy here again. Oh dear, I had the best intentions and wanted so much to remove my rear end from my internet thrown and go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I was also doing some dinner preparations for when some came over after I was finished working at 8:30. Some friends, that would be... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: um, you are talking to yourself again (TurquoiseB -- Geezerfreak). That is odd, don't you think? Paranoia seems to affect the supposedly-awakened, too. :-) In other words, geezerfreak ain't me. I suspect that even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: um, you are talking to yourself again (TurquoiseB -- Geezerfreak). That is odd, don't you think? Paranoia seems to affect the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have never posted on Fairfield Life using any ID but this one, TurquoiseB. And I don't have any plans to do so in the future. That kinda stuff is for pussies. I guess you've gotten braver, then, because you used

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: um, you are talking to yourself again (TurquoiseB -- Geezerfreak).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume that the moderators (Rick, Alex, and whoever) can tell what a poster's real address is behind their Yahoo address. I hereby give them permission to bust me publicly here if their resources show that I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: um, you are talking to yourself again (TurquoiseB -- Geezerfreak). That is odd, don't you think? Paranoia seems to affect the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: um, you are talking to yourself again (TurquoiseB -- Geezerfreak).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I assume that the moderators (Rick, Alex, and whoever) can tell what a poster's real address is behind their Yahoo address. I hereby give them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I assume that the moderators (Rick, Alex, and whoever) can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I assume that the moderators (Rick, Alex, and whoever) can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: um, you are talking to yourself again (TurquoiseB -- Geezerfreak).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:32 PM, geezerfreak wrote: Good lord peoplethe paranoia! No, I am not Barry. I don't who Barry is... Uh, huh, sure, that's what they all say...next thing you know you'll be telling us your name is Bevan Morris or something... Sal To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same question to you that I asked whatever his name is. Can you please name one person on the planet who you can state unequivocally is fully Realized, 24X7 enlightened? Is this question directed at me? No, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Same question to you that I asked whatever his name is. Can you please name one person on the planet who you can state unequivocally is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate on 9/4/06 9:32 PM, geezerfreak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did you do your time? Mine was Seelisberg and therebouts...1972 through '76.) I must know you well, since I was there from 74-76. __._,_.___ To subscribe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geezer, You have provided me with some great laughs - I like your sense of humor. thanks Thanks Wayback. Nice to meetcha. Here's something that I remembered a few days ago that got me chuckling. Some may not realize this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY defines fully mature Unity as ability to perform all sidhis without benefit of practicing a sutra. I don't believe anyone is in that state today, if ever there was someone. That is one of my points. And there is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/4/06 9:32 PM, geezerfreak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did you do your time? Mine was Seelisberg and therebouts...1972 through '76.) Were you a 108? In Tahoe in fall of 72 at 108 course? To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good lord peoplethe paranoia! Paranoia? In the comments direcly above? Oh My. No New Morning, not the post direcly above Ok, I didn't think so. But since your comment directly followed mine,I had to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/4/06 9:32 PM, geezerfreak at geezerfreak@ wrote: When did you do your time? Mine was Seelisberg and therebouts...1972 through '76.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: MMY defines fully mature Unity as ability to perform all sidhis without benefit of practicing a sutra. I don't believe anyone is in that state

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: MMY defines fully mature Unity as ability to perform all sidhis without

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the vision of the infusion of tenderness, doing dhyaana of the ishhTa in the heart, you should remain doing japa of the ishhTa mantra. YS I 39 yathaabhimata-dhyaanaad vaa (yathaa + abhimata) FWIW, at least

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well put John. Paul, your continuing research on Guru Dev and the origins of TM is wonderful and welcome. I spent a fair amount of time around MMY and yet learned things from your book that had remained

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..Snip.' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..Snip.' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! Nor did I say you noted that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the FFL notice board. You ascribe so many motives to my postings - come on what is YOUR agenda? AND have you EVER actually practised this meditation thing you claim to have done. Are you just one of those anti-TMers who wants to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..Snip.' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! A message from Judy: Right you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the FFL notice board. You snipped it to make it appear I had misquoted you. If it had been an honest mistake, you wouldn't have tried to put over a flimsy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..Snip.' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis Club,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
Pathetic! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the FFL notice board. You snipped it to make it appear I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
I accept your apology unreservedly! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..Snip.' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pathetic! Yes, I'd say pathetic is just the word to describe you. Your deceptive snippage had nothing to do with getting most of your response on the FFL notice board. It was the text of your *post* that attempted to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
You live to argue, pointlessly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Pathetic! Yes, I'd say pathetic is just the word to describe you. Your deceptive snippage had nothing to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You live to argue, pointlessly. And you live to deceive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Pathetic!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: You live to argue, pointlessly. And you live to deceive. Hi kids, Judy here again. Oh dear, I had the best intentions and wanted so much to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..Snip.' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! So, are you objecting to the word

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
Hi, folks, geezerfreak here. I know I swore, twice, that I wasn't going to read or respond to any more of Judy's posts, but I just can't seem to help myself. Why am I so obsessed with someone I've declared irrelevant? It doesn't make any sense, and the cognitive dissonance is driving me crazy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread geezerfreak
Yours in desperation, geezerfreak (who doesn't even have the guts to sign his own name...) OK Judy, time to come clean. The name's Bevan Morris. Perhaps you've heard of me? I'd really appreciate you're curbing these assholic posts of yours. They annoy Maharishi no end. First time I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Barry2, in this context that must be what he meant and I have ammended the translation to reflect this view: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#Gurudevmeditation --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Yes Barry2, in this context that must be what he meant and I have ammended the translation to reflect this view:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Mason
Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of our country and abroad' - for full text go to http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of our country and abroad' - for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
Great find Paul! It also contains the first money shot for MMY. We can see where her perfected his formula. 'The great Saint of the Himalayas in coming in your midst and in the fitness of the great occasion, I appeal to your good sense to extend your valuable support so that his elevating

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-01 Thread Paul Mason
I have refined the translation a little, and will continue to do so as inspiration arises. Hopefully, other translations will emerge soon which will be help get the meanings clearer:- http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#Gurudevmeditation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-01 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Paul Mason wrote: Guru Dev - Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati gives a few words about when and how to meditate. Translation by Paul

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But if you don't disapprove of his wanting to make TM universal, you really don't have a leg to stand on in suggesting that he is dishonoring Guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-01 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip But if you don't disapprove of his wanting to make TM universal, you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-01 Thread Bhairitu
That was just a side comment or point of information. I didn't intend for you to alter the translation. I would be surprised if Brahmanand Saraswati was aware of the variation of sunrise and sunsets in more northerly countries unless he also practiced astrology and was working on charts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Mason
Revised copy of this satsang at: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#Gurudevmeditation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guru Dev - Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati gives a few words about when and how to meditate. Translation by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Mason
Original Hindi text of satsang 48 of 108 in Itrans format:- praataHkaala aura dina meM jo puujana , japa , dhyaana , aadi karate ho so to Thiika hii hai , kintu raatri meM sone se pahale 10 - 15 minaTa apane ishhTa maMtra kaa japa aura ishhTa muurti kaa dhyaana avashya karanaa chaahiye . isase

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Mason
Yes Barry2, in this context that must be what he meant and I have ammended the translation to reflect this view: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#Gurudevmeditation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Mason wrote: Guru Dev -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-08-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Mason wrote: Guru Dev - Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati gives a few words about when and how to meditate. Translation by Paul Mason 31st August 2006 Paul, just how far do you think MMY would have gotten

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-08-31 Thread Marek Reavis
Premanand Paul, Thank you for another enormous contribution. Your site on Guru Dev is tremendous. And this teaching of his (below) hits the spot. Jai Guru Dev ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Barry2, in this context that must be what he meant